1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. Well, here we are. I 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: always feel like we're coming with a word of warning. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: This is like a It's one of those after school 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: special type things. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: You know. I mean it is, you know, like my 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: life flashed before my eyes when the cops were chasing. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Well, that feels dramatic. I mean, you were texting me 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: on a group chain about this, So I do not 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: feel like that's true. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: Now I'm smarter than that. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: So a couple months ago, I wish I could remember 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: exactly when this was. I mean, this had to be 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: almost a year ago. Now, maybe let's go eight months. 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: That feels about it, right, It feels fair. Yeah, I 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: recorded a podcast with you and I told you about 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: getting scammed, and like it went through this whole process 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: where these these scammers told me I was there was 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: a warrant out for my arrest because I hadn't showed 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: up at a court date about my PPP loans and 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: getting I hadn't I needed to pay back something or 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. There was all this stuff 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I think I've tried to block 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: it out, but I am going to repost that podcast 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: tied to this so that people can have a word 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: of warning because it happened to you yesterday. 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Well, and before we get to that, and we talked 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: about it, I think in the last podcast it had 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: happened to our friend Mary too in a similar way. 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: And I just you know, not to toot our own horns. 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: But the three of us are intelligent people. This is 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: a very sophisticated scam. They like, I mean, she went 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: downtown to the. 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: Police station, so did I. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: When she realized the door was like a sketchy door 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: and not the police station, and you know, they were 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: saying things like do you and. 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Your daughter still live at this address? And they were 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: telling her they mine too. They were telling her that. 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: She had missed jerry duty and there was a warn 41 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: out for her arrest, and like they would transfer her 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: to the sergeant and he would have all the same information. 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: She said, it was very very because I talked to 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: her about this yesterday, it was very sophisticated. And so 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: even the most like intuned person, if we're distracted enough, 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: we're going to fall for these things. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: Thankfully, two of my best friends. 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: This has happened to And yesterday when I got a call, 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: it was a voice They left me a voicemail, and 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: I instantly knew. I was like, hmm, this is weird 51 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: because it had come from an unknown number. So I 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: called the police, and you know, they then they told 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: me that I had to call the non emergency line. 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: So had they gave me a non emergency number. I 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: called them and they basically it was weird. No, I 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: just called Davidson County Sheriff's Office. 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, and they were like, you know. 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Sir, this is not this is a voicemail. 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: So I was like, but. 60 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm scared, so but they you know, the interesting thing was, 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: you know, I said, look, it came through a you know, 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: an unknown caller number, and they're like, okay, we'll take 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: all your information. We'll have someone call you, but just 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: keep in mind it's probably going to come from an 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: unknown caller number or a block number. And I was 66 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: just like, well, that seems weird because how do I 67 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: know that it's not of them calling me back versus 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: the actual police, but it did. It came from a 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: my phone recognized Metro police when they called me back, 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: so and yeah, the guy was really funny. He was 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: like an older gentleman, and he was like, I mean, 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: this is happening. People are following for these scams, and 73 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, I just thought, maybe you all 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: could call them back and act like you're me and 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: it'll lead you right to them. 76 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Right, But it doesn't actually, because this is what happened 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: to me, and you guys will hear this in a story. 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: I give all the details so you can make sure 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: not to let this happen to you as well. Which again, 80 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: you're proving the pointship of the purpose of us even 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: talking about this. You knew immediately when you got voicemail. 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: You texted me and Mary and said, wait, is this 83 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: what happened to y'all and send us the voicemail. I 84 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: was like, yes, don't call that. Once you get on 85 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the phone with them, you're kind of fucked. 86 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they scare you into hanging like not hanging. 87 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Not hanging up. I was sobbing on the phone and 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: they kept me on the phone. It's so messed up. 89 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is mean. But I really 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: wish I had witnessed it. 91 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: You know, just because I know you're the dramatic side 92 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: of you, and it would like I wish I could 93 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: have been a fly on the wall. 94 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: I wish I could have been the kitty at your 95 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: front door that day. 96 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Me dramatic, what No, No, But they keep you on 97 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: the phone and then once you get close enough, like 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: I drove all the way downtown Nashville where the office is, 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: and once you get close enough, they tell you to 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: stop and pull over because if you if they if 101 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: you step foot on the premises of that that building, 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: they will have to arrest you by law. So instead 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: you could sign the paperwork virtually and send over money money. 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: And that was when I was like, oh no, hell, 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: this is not. 106 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: Well. I will tell you this. 107 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: When I spoke to the cops, they said, you know, 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: obviously this is rampant and it's you know, happening everywhere. 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: And in fact, while we're recording this podcast, I am 110 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: currently texting with a fake Lucy Hale because I just 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: want to see. 112 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: Where it goes. 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: And we'll get to that in a minute, because this 114 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: is going to play into our story. But the cops 115 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 2: did say, he was like, the police will never ask 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: you to pay for. 117 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: Anything over the phone. 118 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: Correct, so it is a sure tell sign they're never 119 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: going to send They're never going to send you a link. 120 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: They will mail something to you, or they will knock 121 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: on your door and tell you that you owe something 122 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: so big red flag someone. 123 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: That's what they tell you, though, is that you missed 124 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: the knock on the door and the paper like that 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: I got served and I'm like, no, I didn't. And 126 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: they then they produced because I said, let me see this, 127 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: send it to me if I signed something, because I 128 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: knew I would know my signature. They didn't have it 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: at the time, of course, and I was like, okay, 130 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: this is not real. But they kept me on the 131 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: phone long enough to where whoever it was doing the 132 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: scam produced the paperwork. They also must have googled my 133 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: signature because it was pretty close. I knew it wasn't 134 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: mine though once I saw it. But also I was like, 135 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: there's no chance that I signed something and don't remember. Like, yes, 136 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: I get busy, Yes sometimes I'm out of it, but 137 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm not that out of it. Okay, Like that. 138 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: Is never open your mail too. It's like you might 139 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: but you open your mail. Yeah, it's you know. They 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: also like people fall for shit like sending a gift 141 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: card to. 142 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: The cops, like that would never There's not a police 143 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: department that is looking for a Starbucks or a you know, 144 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: an Apple gift card. 145 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Well, they told when they tell you that there's a 146 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: warrant out for your arrest and that a Copple show 147 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: to your house, say okay, send them. 148 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: So that's always here, yeah, because. 149 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Like they're not going to do it in person, and 150 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: if they did, you would want to check the credentials. 151 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Also call the police while they're on their way over. 152 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: But like there are certain things that when I look back, 153 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what But they have you 154 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: so freaked out? And like there was information about me 155 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: that I did not know was public knowledge because I've 156 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: tried to not put it out there. But then once 157 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: I filed for those PPP loans, some of that information 158 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: got released to a public file I didn't know about. 159 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: And so the fact that they had that information made 160 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: me think it was legit too. Like they do their 161 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: due diligence for sure. They're not just calling you saying 162 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: a random thing. Like they find so much information about you, 163 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: like you said your address, all these things that make 164 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: it go well fuck, I mean they know this, so right, Yeah, 165 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: it's wild. 166 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: It's really scary. I mean, I don't I don't know 167 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: what it is. But like even yesterday when I am 168 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: and I'm you know, saying this with a little bit 169 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: of humor, I'm the victim here. I'm nervous on the 170 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: phone just talking to a cop, you know. 171 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: What I'm calling. I'm like trying to make him laugh. 172 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, they're like. 173 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: Yes, because they're like they're taking your information. It feels 174 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: like you're in trouble. 175 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Too, you know, like what were you saying? What were 176 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: the jokes? 177 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: Well, one of them was I was like, I said 178 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: something like, well, at least I feel like I'm part 179 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: of the club now. 180 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Was he like dead silent mother? 181 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: No, he laughed. I mean he was probably eighty years old. 182 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: He sounded like an old man that just answers the 183 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: phone for the cops and takes reports. 184 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: And I love that you're doing stand up. 185 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's just to lighten the mood because I get 186 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: so nervous, Like you know, when you get pulled over 187 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: for speeding, it literally feels like your life is over. 188 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: Like I just hate it. 189 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm like trembling, and I don't know, like interacting with 190 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: cops makes me nervous, even when I'm innocent. 191 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It's just well because unless you make 192 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: a habit of breaking the law, you're not used to it. 193 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: So it's just this foreign thing cops. Cops talk with 194 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: such authority, there's you don't want to be in trouble 195 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: with the law. That was my thing. I kept saying 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: to this gammer, I'm a law abiding citizens, And I 197 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: was like, I don't try. I try purposely not to 198 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: break the law, Like I don't want to break the law. 199 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm a good citizen. I'm not trying to cause trouble. 200 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: How are you yelling at me? Like I'm sobbing saying this. 201 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, can't you just like send me some paperwork? 202 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: Like if I owe money, I would pay it. But 203 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: I just knew there wasn't something right there. So it's 204 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: just something to be weary of. I also told Chip 205 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: I got served an article this week about a retiree 206 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: that has had lost seven hundred and forty thousand dollars 207 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: to a scammer, and you can't get it back. 208 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: That's what it's taught to me. 209 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: They can't. Yeah, once that money is gone. Like they 210 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: were asking me for like seven thousand dollars or something. 211 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: But like and in the big picture of seven hundred 212 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: and forty thousand dollars, it doesn't sound like a lot, 213 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: But that would have been a lot for me just 214 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: to give away. Like I don't want to lose seven 215 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 216 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: No, that's a lot of money. 217 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: No, But think about this person in retirement. They've worked 218 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: their whole life for that and then got scammed and 219 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: they can't get it back, and it's not like anyone 220 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: can pay it, like the government or anything. It's so 221 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: sad and so messed up, and now their whole life 222 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: has changed, Like that is life changing money. So I 223 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: think we have to keep talking about this stuff. And 224 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,119 Speaker 1: I think we have to tell everyone in our circles 225 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: past that's fun, Like we was going to. 226 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Say, especially older people in your family, because you know, 227 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm I'm guessing that this retiree was probably. 228 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Older people pray on people. 229 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: They pray on older people, the elderly because they don't 230 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: know and they're not as sophisticated when it comes to technology. 231 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: They're you know, I guess, more easily swayed. So share 232 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: this stuff with your parents, your grandparents, like people that 233 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: are older around you because they're they're they're coming everywhere, 234 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: you know. Like, right now, I've got this fake Lucy Hale. 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: I'm fucking with her, you know. 236 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: She she just asked me, you move like you find 237 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: a scammer. You're like, okay, yeah, Like Lucy Hale's texting 238 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: me and you right back, Like I tried to get 239 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: hacked or I got a fake thing from an astrologer 240 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: I follow and I immediately when I realized it was fake, 241 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, don't I delete the email. 242 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with them. And you were like, 243 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: let's have fun with this. 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm having fun with it, like I do. Know Lucy. 245 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: She's a friend of a friend and we've hung out 246 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: at Stage Coach a month. So we follow each other 247 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: on Instagram, which is why I'm getting it because she 248 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: follows me. Oh so this is going on, this is 249 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: live live, it's happening in real time. Hate Chip And 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: I said hey, and she said how are you? I 251 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: said I'm great you and she said good. Where are 252 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: you from? And I said, huh, you know where I'm from. 253 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Are you drunk? And she said yes, what are you 254 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: doing now? I said, girl, have you lost your mind? 255 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: You're sober? I didn't know you were drinking again. Do 256 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: I need to come over and check you into Betty Ford? 257 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: She responds, Hell's mom, And I said, you're deflecting. 258 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 3: Do you need help? I'm worried about you. She just said, hun, 259 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm okay, right? 260 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: Are you at home right now? Well, I'm just gonna 261 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: fuck with her like I want her. Whoever this is 262 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: because it wastes their time. All the time that I'm 263 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: having fun doing this with them is time that they. 264 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: Can't be scamming somebody else. 265 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: There you go, look at you. 266 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: I love that. My my improv teacher and I took 267 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: improv in La. This happens to him a lot, and 268 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: he posts the story, He posts the whole text threads 269 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: on his Instagram and fucking kills me like he comes 270 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: up with fake names and chats with them and. 271 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: He's so much in it. 272 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: To Lucy, I'm a hundred percent gonna do it. 273 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel like you're like the regular 274 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: like scammer robin hood over here. 275 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: I love it. It's like it brings me so much joy. 276 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna go ahead and post the details 277 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: of what happened to me in the story, and like 278 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: we said, please share this with anyone you know, pass 279 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: it along to your friends, your family, especially the utterly 280 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: in your world. I want this to stop happening. This 281 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: is so messed up. Like people can't be working their 282 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: whole lives and then lose their savings to these scammers. 283 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: It is definitely messed up and also really bad karma 284 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: for you guys out there doing this. So yes, yes, okay, 285 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: tell us how you really feel. Yeah, all right, anyway, Yeah, 286 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: they listened to this podcast and they tuned in. All right, 287 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: here's that story for you. Guys. You can always email 288 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: us at the Edge at velvisedge dot com. You have 289 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: all of our other details at the end of that 290 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: last story. But let's fight scammers together. 291 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: Go us. 292 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: It just said to you, welcome back to our crazy 293 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: ass fucking country. 294 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: Are Oh my god, I cannot wait to hear this story. 295 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: Hello everyone. I gotta tell you it's definitely been a 296 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: day for me. I am like really still rattled. I 297 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: was like sitting here waiting for you to get on 298 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: this zoom right now, and I just am like shaking. 299 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: It's so crazy. What just happened to me? 300 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: A little bit of setup. So it's right now, it's 301 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: almost seven o'clock here. Kelly and I were scheduled to 302 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: record it for and I get this text message from 303 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: her that says, Hey, I don't think I'm going to 304 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: be able to record. I had an emergency. I have 305 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: to go to the police department. We'll keep you posted 306 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: as I can. I said, oh, oh no, are you okay? 307 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: And then an hour and a half later she responded 308 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: and right was like, started to tell me what she's 309 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: going to tell me now, but I don't. 310 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: I haven't really heard the story. So this is the 311 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: first time we're all hearing it. 312 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: First of all, Chip has been across the world for 313 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: two weeks, and this is the first that we're talking 314 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: essentially since what you guys have heard us talking about. 315 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: So he's probably like, uh, take me back back. This 316 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: is insane. And yes, let me start by saying, I'm 317 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: so sorry. I hate when people do the thing where 318 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: they text something really alarming and then they disappear. Right, 319 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: But that was the best that I could do because. 320 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: I was dry or still on the phone. 321 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I was still on the phone, and I just didn't 322 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: want to leave you hanging with like, uh, where is she? 323 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: Like? 324 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: Because I literally thought I was going to be in jail. 325 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: So here's what happened. First of all, I have been 326 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: on set all week. I'm doing a new TV show 327 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,119 Speaker 1: that's so fun, but we've been working these really long hours. 328 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: So I want to preface this by saying I am 329 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: exhausted today, and so I don't know if that played 330 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: into this at all, but I actually think that I 331 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: want to tell this story on the podcast because I 332 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: think this. I know this is happening a lot in 333 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: our country right now because of the cops that I've 334 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: since talked to, and unfortunately, I feel like we just 335 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: all need to be on guard and I don't want 336 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: this to happen to anyone else to the extent that 337 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: it just happened to me. And so this is a warning, 338 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I guess, of scammers ultimately, but that is not how 339 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: this started. So basically, I get a call this afternoon 340 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: and I was walking out actually to go to my energy. 341 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I was going to get Reikie like I was. I 342 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: was about to have a day where I was like 343 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: going to replenish myself. I was really working to get 344 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: my Chakras balanced because I've been anxious and stressed and 345 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I get a call that I missed and I have 346 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: a voicemail from that number. It's a Nashville number. It's 347 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: a voicemail, and it's like, Hey, Kelly, this is Detective 348 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: so and so at the Davidson County Sheriff's office. And 349 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: I just was calling to I think he said, I 350 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: still have the voicemail and I need to maybe re listen. 351 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: But he basically said, like I was calling as to 352 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: somehow like they wanted me to be a contact witness 353 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: in some case. 354 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: Can you play the voicemail? 355 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably couldn't. Actually, yeah, it's kind of like 356 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: his voice was kind of quiet, which now I'm looking 357 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: back on, like, huh, but this is what it said. 358 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: Could you hear that? 359 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: No, put the bottom end of your phone closer to 360 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: the microphone. 361 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Maybe the listeners were like. So, basically he just says 362 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: he's a deputy and he's contacting me, and it would 363 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: be nice if I could call him back, kind of thing, 364 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: like basically very vague, but the fact that he had 365 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: left a voicemail first of all, kind of threw me. 366 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: And then second of all, I like to make it 367 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: seem real, I mean, right right. But then also I 368 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: sort of was like, that sounds like someone just has 369 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: a question for me, And I just thought. My first 370 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: instinct was there's a situation with a friend of mine 371 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: that I thought maybe they needed me to like testify 372 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: in a certain like in a case, like just to 373 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: be a witness to something, right, and but nothing like die. 374 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't anything super stress well, so I texted her 375 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: and I actually said, like, would this have anything to 376 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: do with your situation? And she said no, I don't 377 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: think so, but you know whatever, it was kind of 378 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind. Then I had this thought. 379 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: I was just like, wonder if something happened in my 380 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: neighborhood and they're just calling because there was a man 381 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: that had shown up at my door. I have a 382 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: sign on my door that says no solicitors, cause I 383 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: am like that. I know, Chip makes my. 384 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: Reminder every time I leave, I'm like, hey. 385 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: No sold solicitors. But the thing is is I find 386 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: it to be so invasive when people come up to 387 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: your door these days, like it's just twenty twenty three, 388 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: Like we don't need to be doing that. Put a 389 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: mailer in my mailbox, email me, call me whatever. Well, 390 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: don't call me now, that's what I'm done with that. 391 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: But like, I just find it really invasive. So I 392 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: have that on my door. And there was a man 393 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: that knocked on my door right before I got this 394 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: phone call, probably thirty minutes before, and I didn't answer 395 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: because I say it says no solicitors, and he walked away, 396 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: and so I kind of was like, oh, it's a solicitor. 397 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: But then I got this call, and so the back 398 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: to back of that made it seem like, oh, maybe 399 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: that was a detective that came to my house, Like 400 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: I better call him back. I wonder if something happened 401 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood and they need to know if I 402 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: saw anything. Like I started to get kind of like 403 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: nervous like that, right, So I called back and the 404 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: wherever I called says it's like a voice record, not 405 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: it's just the voice recording picks up and it's like, 406 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you've reached the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. If you know 407 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: your party's extension, enter it here. Of course I didn't 408 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: have an extension because he didn't leave one. And then 409 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: it was like the hours of operation are. It says 410 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: all the same stuff that I think. It probably says 411 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: it the real Davidson County Sheriff's Department and whatever. But 412 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm pulling up to this energy appointment at this point, 413 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: so I was like, well, they'll call me back or 414 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: whatever if they need. I'm just still thinking, like nothing's happened. Well, 415 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: as I literally turn into the parking lot, they call 416 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: me back and I hadn't left a message or anything 417 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: like that, but they must have seen that I called, 418 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: and that maybe should have been even a thing. But 419 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I just answered again because I'm just thinking somebody just 420 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: has like some questions that maybe I can I just 421 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: was also like what happened, you know, like I don't 422 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: make a practice of breaking the law, So I just 423 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: was thinking, like I've a detective called me, Like I. 424 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: Got an answer, you got an answer? 425 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I get on the phone with this guy, 426 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: and at first it was somewhat normal, but he was 427 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: saying to me, he said my name obviously, and he 428 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: said he said my address, and then he starts to 429 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: say like he has like a bunch of information about 430 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: me that some of it would not be public knowledge, 431 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, like it just seemed like a legit government 432 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: official because he had information about me that now I'm 433 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: understanding where he got it from. But at the time, 434 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: because I didn't know this, I was like, how else 435 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: would he know this if this wasn't legit, Like it 436 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: just seemed really legit. 437 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: Were some of the things that he had. 438 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say because I'm now I'm really 439 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: fucking scared about my identity at this point, right, like honestly, 440 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: and so that's why I'm being vague about that. Like 441 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to not tell you as the story, 442 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: but I'm this is also public, so you know, now 443 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm like really stressed out. So anyway, I talked to 444 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: him for a second and he's like basically tells me 445 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: that I had received something that I would look at 446 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: as like certified mail, and I had signed off on it. 447 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: They had my signature on the paper, and so the 448 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: like I had signed that paper that said that I 449 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: needed to be in court on a certain date because 450 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: I was being audited about the PPP loans I had received. 451 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: So okay, like I did get a PPP loan, and 452 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: I also got forgiveness, Like I did all the paperwork 453 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: by the book. I was super stressed out about it, 454 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: so I like made sure that because it just was weird. 455 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, like we lost all of our business during 456 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: that time, so I'd got a PPP loan, got the forgiveness. 457 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: I haven't even thought of about it since. Like I 458 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's done. But when he said that, 459 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: he tells you how many billions of dollars have been frauded, 460 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: like people you know, didn't really have businesses that went 461 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: under all the fraud that happened around PPP. And so 462 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: he said, they're doing random audits. Do you work for yourself? 463 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: That's probably why you got audited? So do you see 464 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying all this stuff? I'm like, yes, I do. 465 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: I am like a you know, a self employed, a 466 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: contract out all the things. And so again he kind 467 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: of has me hooked, but the way that he was, 468 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: so he's saying all this stuff, but I'm still kind 469 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: of like, wait what And then I go, I never 470 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: received anything. I never signed anything. And he said he said, okay, 471 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: well I have the paperwork sitting on my desk, and 472 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: I was like, can you send me that? And he goes, 473 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: I can't text you confidential paperwork from the police department. 474 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: He was like, I do need you to come down 475 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: to the Sheriff's department though anyway, so I'll show you 476 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: as soon as you get here. But I said, you 477 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: need me to come down, and he was like, ma'am, 478 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: there's a warrant out for your arrest because you missed courts. 479 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: Now you're in contempt of court, and I need you 480 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: to come down to the Sheriff's apartment and show your 481 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: ID and then sign all this, sign the new paperwork 482 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: so we can get a new court date scheduled. And 483 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: I was like what. I was like, how am I 484 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: in contempt of court? I didn't even know about a 485 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: court date. He said, well, I mean I have a 486 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: forensic hand writing specialist that will be in court or whatever, 487 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: and you can file that claim then. But I'm just 488 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: trying to do my due diligence now and follow through 489 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: with my job of the law, which is that you 490 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: now have a warrant out for your arrest and so 491 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: I have to see you. And if you don't, he said, 492 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: if I did not comply with that, like coming into 493 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: the station, that then I would be evading or whatever 494 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: it is, like avoiding the officer basically and not complying 495 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: and said that then they would literally show up to 496 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: my workplace, my house, whatever and arrest me. So in 497 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna be 498 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: on set with Garth Brooks. Guy is gonna come in 499 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: and arrest me? Like is that for real? Like I'm 500 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: freaking out at this point, And I was like what 501 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: I go? I go, well, can I come in tomorrow? 502 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: I have the day off, like I am walking into 503 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: an appointment right now. I set a work meeting, so right, 504 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: maybe this is the car I get for lying about that, 505 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: but it was work for me because I needed to 506 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: cleanse my chakras to be able to get up, you know, 507 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: to do the best job that I can. So anyway, 508 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: I like saying I have this meeting, and then we 509 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: had the recording, so I was like, I have multiple 510 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: things of work still today. Can I come in in 511 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: the morning. I'm happy to do it, Like, I will 512 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: show up. You can tell me what time, who to 513 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: ask for, where to be. I will be there like 514 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm a rule follower, sir, Like I'm saying all this stuff, 515 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: and he just kept getting like really really really pushy 516 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: about stuff. But then he was like, I don't think 517 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: you're understanding the severity of your situation right now, and 518 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I absolutely am not, because you are 519 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the first time that I'm hearing about any of this. 520 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: So and so, basically anytime I kept like talking, he 521 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: would cut me off. So I was getting really fucking 522 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: aggravated too, because it felt like he was like man 523 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: explaining to me, which I was just in the moment 524 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: being like, this is I just had this. This is 525 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: not fair to cops, so many cops listening. I'm sorry, 526 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: But in my head I felt very much like it 527 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: was like this egotistical guy that was just like kind 528 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: of bombarding me with the information and really getting frustrated 529 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: with me that I wouldn't just comply with what he 530 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: was saying. And I was trying to explain to him 531 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: why I didn't understand, and he just kept cutting me off, 532 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: basically to be like, what all I'm experiencing with you 533 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: is that you are not working with me, and you 534 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: are He's like, I deal with criminals all day, that's 535 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: all I do. How do I know you're any different? 536 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't know you. I don't know what kind of 537 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: business you have. I don't even know if you have 538 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff, And I said, we you should know 539 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: I have a business if you work for the government, 540 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: because I file my taxes every year. So I was like, 541 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: you can go look that up. You can see how 542 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: much I make. You can see what my businesses are. 543 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: I say, all this stuff, and he said, no, ma'am, 544 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I can't. That's that's in the court process. We actually 545 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the PPP stuff. That'll be 546 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: your battle, you know, that's another battle. He's like, all 547 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do right now is make sure that 548 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: you're not trying to run. Because they called your name 549 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: twice in court yesterday and you weren't there. 550 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: What the fuck would they have done if you had 551 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: just showed up at the police department, Like, I don't 552 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: understand how, So I'm about to. 553 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: Say, your game is, I'm about to tell you so 554 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: I literally my energy here. I'm texting her because he's 555 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: telling me like, I can't get off the phone basically, 556 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: which just so you know, you guys, this is the 557 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: consistent thing that they have told me. Now. They will 558 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: not let you get off the phone, and no police 559 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: officer would ever actually do that. It felt strange to 560 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: me but because it had gotten hostile with me and 561 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: that guy, I sort of started to feel like he 562 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: was doing it because he was trying to prove like 563 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: I stayed on the phone just because I was like, 564 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to prove that I'm not trying to run, 565 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, and he had me convinced that that was 566 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: what he thought. And so basically, like my reiki girl 567 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: comes outside and she's like, cause I'm texting her what's happening? 568 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: And she's getting kind of the text you are getting 569 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: because he's talking to me a lot. You know. It 570 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was just like sitting in silence with him. 571 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: He's like blah blah blah blah, you know, just running 572 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: his mouth and I'm trying to text and pay attention. 573 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: So she comes outside and she's like are you okay? 574 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: As I'm like pulling out to be like I gotta go, 575 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: and he's on my car speakerphone and I'm like, no, 576 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm not okay, but I have to go down to 577 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office. And she's like, oh my what. She's 578 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: like what is Everyone is just like what is happening? 579 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: I was also like that what is happening? So he 580 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: makes me stay on the phone with him, He makes 581 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: me tell him my ETA too, which now is like 582 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: a huge red flag in this whole story. But he's 583 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: basically convincing me that I'm telling him that so that 584 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: he knows that I'm actually coming down. Tells me the 585 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: address of the actual sheriff's department, like all this stuff. 586 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: Because at first I was like, how do I know? 587 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: He goes, I go, how do I know that you're 588 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: not just trying to scam me? And this is an 589 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: actual sheriff's department. I was like, if you give me 590 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: the address to the real sheriff's department, then maybe I'll 591 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: know or whatever. And I said, but as a woman, 592 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: I need to know where I'm going. You're just telling 593 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: me to start driving to a place that I don't 594 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: even understand why I'm coming to. Like, my safety is 595 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: my number one concern here, and as like a female, 596 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I have to be really clear on things. And he goes, 597 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: you wouldn't feel safe walking into a building of police 598 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: officers And I said, no, Sirah, I would not. Because 599 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: he got so upset by that, but it was because 600 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: and so then of course he played he was I 601 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: was thinking that was playing into like the ego piece 602 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: of what I had assumed. But I was like, no, 603 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable walking into any building that someone 604 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: is basically acting like I'm some criminal that I'm not 605 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: like right right, because I'm like, what if I walk in? 606 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: It just felt the way he was acting with me 607 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: made me feel like I'm going to walk in and 608 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: never walk out, you know kind of thing, like they 609 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: were gonna throw me in a cell and I was 610 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna raw away and not be able to call anybody. 611 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: Like it's not like we don't see stories about people 612 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: getting arrested, you know, for no reason. 613 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: Yes, the thing, you know, they're good. 614 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: That's all the stories these days that you see on 615 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: the news, and like, of course the media plays all 616 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: that stuff up too, and like so I'm like, no, 617 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: of course, like I'm not trying to talk bad about 618 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: police officers at all. I don't think this is the 619 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: way that it was, the way he was being specifically, 620 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: that did not make me feel safe, obviously, rightfully so, 621 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: but I felt like, okay, fine, Oh so he told 622 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: me his full name, he gave me his badge number. 623 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: But of course at this point I'm driving, so I 624 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: can't write any of this down. And I'm just like, 625 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: he says, I mean, this call is being recorded, and 626 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: I said good, and I said, I'm also recording it 627 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: on my end, just so you know, because I feel 628 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: very comfortable with the way I've interacted with you, but 629 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: the way that you're talking to me is never okay, 630 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: And no matter what the outcome of this situation is, 631 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: I will be filing a complaint about this conversation in general. 632 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: So he was like, Okay, well, here's my number and 633 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: my badge number or whatever, like such a fucking dick, right, 634 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: So I was start sobbing. I'm like driving because I'm 635 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: literally like, Okay, first of all, I'm just like, basically, 636 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: my whole day is upended. But I'm starting to be like, 637 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: my whole it feels like my whole life was about 638 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: to be upended. And honestly, I think that anyone in 639 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: our society these days, like nothing fucking surprises you anymore, 640 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like, dude, it's 641 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: just like one thing after another constantly, and so I'm 642 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: just thinking, oh my god, this is about to cost 643 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: me so much money. Like I start going through numbers 644 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: of having to pay back my loans and like just 645 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: like court fees and missing court and what all that's 646 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: going to cost me. And I'm just like I'm like knowing, 647 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: I'll figure it out and deal, but I'm also just 648 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: like rattled because I'm just driving to fucking Reiki and 649 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: this is how my day starts turning out, you know. 650 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: To pay for that appointment. 651 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean right like I just was like it just 652 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: and it was also like I really wanted that appointment 653 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: I had missed last week. We were supposed to do 654 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: it and she had to cancel, and so it was 655 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: some one of those things that was just like I 656 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: just got to get to Reki, you know. So anyway, 657 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: uh a driving I'm sobbing. He makes me stay on 658 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: the phone. He would like he came back going and 659 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: once it starts crying and he's like, mam, are you okay? 660 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: And I said no, and he starts man explaining something 661 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: else to me, and I said, you know what, I'll 662 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: stay on the phone with you, but we can just 663 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: sit in silence because like you and I do not communicate. 664 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: Well. 665 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 1: I would love to talk to your superior at some point, 666 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: but right now what I need to do is just 667 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: focus on driving, and as a law officer, you're asking 668 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: me to be on my phone a lot more than 669 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: I think is legal. So you know, I played that 670 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: card or whatever. So we sit there, I'm sobbing, and 671 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: then he would pop back into the They were obviously 672 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: listening to me sob like these fuckers. So I get 673 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: about two or three minutes away, and remember he's asked 674 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: me my ETA and he checked back in about ten 675 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: minutes away. And I get about two or three minutes 676 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: away and he says, okay, ma'am, I'm going to transfer 677 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: you to so and so this woman, and she is 678 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: going to help you with your paperwork. So she's going 679 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: to kind of go over a couple of things before 680 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: you come in so we can try to exedite this process. Well, 681 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking in my head, this motherfucker is finally settling down. He's, 682 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: oh shit, sorry, my boyfriend's calling me. He's like all worried, sorry, y'all. 683 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking he literally is just feeling bad because 684 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: he's listening to me sob a forty one year old 685 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: woman for thirty minutes sobbing on the drive on yeah, 686 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: and he's trying to make this nice. So he puts 687 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: this lady on right, and she's starts going through the 688 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: paperwork thing with me, and she's like, okay, so I 689 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: see this, this, this and this, and they're talking in 690 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: this like jargon that of course not every no person, 691 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: normal person knows this stuff, you know, so like it 692 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: sounds really official. I'm sure know it well, right, But 693 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: again this goes to show you I don't deal with 694 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: like police or like I have you know this like 695 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: the paying bonds and jail and all this stuff. Like 696 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I was freaking out court, like I don't go to court. 697 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: I've never gone to court. Oh, I don't know anything. 698 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. So I say I 699 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: she says, we have this paperwork, and she goes, okay, 700 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: and so you're driving here now, so you're turning yourself 701 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: in and I go, is that what it's called? I go, 702 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm just coming in to show my license and she says, ma'am. 703 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: She like cuts me off. She goes, you do know 704 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: when you set foot on the property, you will be detained, right, 705 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what this is when I started texting you? 706 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I'll be detained and she goes 707 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: for seventy two hours, we have a hold on you, 708 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like running through again. I'm on this new 709 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: TV show. I'm filming starting Monday all day next I 710 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: mean all week next week. And so I'm like and 711 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: they said weekends don't count. I'm like, so she is 712 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: in the in the working business hours, yeah, seventy two hours. 713 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, what I go, I have to 714 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: go to work. I can't do that. 715 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: What do you? I go? 716 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: My job is not a job, like they give a shit. 717 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: But I'm like, my job is not a job that 718 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: I can just like call in sick for. That's not 719 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: how my life works, Like I have to go to work, 720 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm scheduled or whatever. And she said, well, 721 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: I would advise you not to set foot on property. 722 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Then again, they're getting me here, but I didn't realize that, 723 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: so I pull o. She's like, I'm going to send 724 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: you some paperwork and we can talk through a you 725 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: can post bail basically so that I didn't have to. 726 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: So again, all this sounded because they had convinced. 727 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: So pretty legit to me. I mean, it's like, you know, 728 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: what's crazy to me is how well fucking thought out 729 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: this is. 730 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: It's so fucked up. Like I started to be like, 731 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: are these former like corrupt cops even? 732 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, where did where? Where do they get the knowledge? 733 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 2: Where do they find each other to be able to 734 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: like be a good team. Like it's all so crazy 735 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: to me anyway. 736 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: And they put me on with multiple people. So she's 737 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: on with me. She had to set up a voicemail 738 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and full voicemail they like. 739 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: So they basically put me on with her. She tells 740 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: me that I'm gonna She's like, well, the fees for 741 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: the bond are forty forty five hundred or something, and 742 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: then your court fees on top of that for missing 743 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: court it put it at sixty five hundred dollars. And 744 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. So I basically am sitting 745 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: here like okay, what I was. I was just like, 746 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm going to figure that. 747 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: Out, and I'm like do you take cards? Well? 748 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: And so then I was just like I literally say, 749 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. But I was like, wait, 750 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: so if I pay that today? Though, when I actually 751 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: go to court and this is all like figured out 752 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: that I didn't do anything or whatever, I was like, 753 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: do I get that back, and the lady was like, 754 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: you can file to get your bond back or whatever 755 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: if you feel like it was unlawfully done. I don't 756 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: even know if that you can do that or if 757 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: that's not even true either, But basically so I'm just thinking, Okay, well, 758 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to pay this and then when 759 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: I go to court, I'll argue to get it back 760 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know. But I'm sitting there. So then 761 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: they put me on with another guy. And then then 762 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: though this is what they did that really kind of 763 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: fucked me up. They I had asked for that paperwork earlier, 764 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: you know that I had signed. They must have gone 765 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: and created it in the meantime of me driving there 766 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. Because I was finally like, I don't understand, 767 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: like what do I need to go do? Then? How 768 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: do I even pay bond? Do I just come in 769 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: there and whatever? And they said no, because so they 770 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: get you because they're like, no, do not set foot 771 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: on the or we will have to detain you. Again. 772 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: This doesn't seem real now and I feel like an idiot, 773 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: But in the moment they're saying all this stuff that 774 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, Okay, so I had pulled 775 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: over to this gas station. They send me now all 776 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: of this paperwork, and in the paperwork was my court 777 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: filing that looked like I had missed court and it 778 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: was all the documentation of that. Then they sent me 779 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: this paperwork that was supposed to be from the post office. 780 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: The signature I'd had, and they had forged my signature 781 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: on something. 782 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 3: Looks did it look like signature? 783 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: So I initially was like that does not. I said, 784 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that's not my signature. And I responded with with that 785 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: and I felt very confident in that, But then it 786 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: started going in my head. You know when like ups 787 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: comes to your house and I don't know if this 788 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: happens to anyone else, but I order it because of 789 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: like my wardrobe job. I get big packages like with 790 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: like that are high money or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and 791 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: you have to sign for it. Will they make you 792 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: sign on this little machine that you're kind of like 793 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: doing really quickly and like scribbly And it looked like that, 794 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: like it almost dig Yeah, And so then I had 795 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: also it had a date on it, and I looked 796 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: at my date and it was a date that I 797 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: was working from home. It happened to be this date 798 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: that I was here and I was recording a bunch 799 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: of stuff, and so it wasn't a day that I 800 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: was like, oh I could that I could be like, 801 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: oh I wasn't. I was not in town, which is 802 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: freaky that they. 803 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: Was the date that that guy knocked on your door 804 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: by any chance. 805 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: No, that that was today that that guy not. Oh 806 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: it okay, so it was probably maybe it was just 807 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: a fluke. I don't know though, because it had like 808 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: a time, like it had the exact time that I 809 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: had signed apparently and all this stuff, which now is 810 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: like freaky because I'm like, they have my address. 811 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: They maybe maybe it's somebody that works for UPS. 812 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: Could be I don't know, but no, but like no, 813 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be because this is not real. That didn't happen. 814 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: There was no paperwork. 815 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 2: Well no, I know what you're saying, but like that 816 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: would know out with criminal knows your addressed, they know 817 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: your name, they know you're there, and they were able 818 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: to take a picture of your digital signature, you know 819 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: what I mean. 820 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it could be. But really, what my dad 821 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: said when we finally talked was that he's realized since 822 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: the PPP Lunds because he got him too for his business, 823 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: and he's realized that that information is like public knowledge, right, 824 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: you can go search it so they can find out 825 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: all sorts of because the thing that was throwing me 826 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: is they knew the exact amount I had gotten. They 827 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: knew like the date I had received it. Yeah, right, 828 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: So it's just fucking scary and like anyway, and all 829 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: that information to be public, like I'd try to keep 830 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: things kind of private, you know, with stuff like that, 831 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: and that wasn't but I didn't even think about that. 832 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: But somehow some database has probably been hacked or leaked 833 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: or whatever. So basically then I started to kind of 834 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: when they started talking about money, I was like, I 835 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: got out, So I started texting my parents the paperwork 836 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: because I had finally stopped driving at this point too. 837 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: So I'm texting my parents and I'm saying to my parents, 838 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm texting my boyfriend and my parents and I'm like, 839 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: I need help, here's what's happening whatever. All three of 840 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: them have now told me the same thing that they 841 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: thought that my phone had been hacked and that someone 842 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: was trying to get them to pay money because I 843 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: couldn't because my mom tried to call me, and I 844 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't answer because I was like, I can't get on 845 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: the other line. So my parents kind of stopped responding 846 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: because they were trying to figure out if they were 847 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: being scammed through my phone or whatever. So I thankfully 848 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: have a lawyer friend that I was like, oh my god, okay, 849 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: I'll text him, kind of embarrassing because it's like, you 850 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: sound crazy, but I sent him the paperwork and I said, 851 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: this is what's happening. They won't let me get off 852 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: the phone. I don't know what to do. They're asking 853 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: me to pay this money. And he calls me immediately too, 854 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: and I said the same thing back to him. I 855 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: can't get off this police officer i'm on the other 856 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: line with is not letting me get off the phone. 857 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: They all wouldn't ever really let me read the paperwork 858 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: because they kept saying, well, did you read the paperwork? 859 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you still have questions, like it 860 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: feels like you're just not wanting to comply, and I'm like, no, 861 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to read the paperwork because you 862 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: guys keep transferring me to someone else to I'm forced 863 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: to keep talking or listening to something because I'm trying 864 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: to understand what's going on. And no, I haven't been 865 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: able to read the paperwork. But I had read enough 866 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: of the paperwork to see my signature, to see the date, 867 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: to see my address, to see the money, to see that, 868 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: you know whatever. So my lawyer, though, kept calling me 869 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: like he kept calling me, and I finally just merged 870 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: the calls with the fake cop and the lawyer, and 871 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: I said, I said, Stephen, first of all, this guy's 872 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: a fucking angel, and I would recommend him to anyone, 873 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: but I won't say his name to keep a saying anonimity. 874 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: But his first name is Stephen. But I said, Steven, 875 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: you're on the phone with the police. They're telling me 876 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: that I need to go get a bond or whatever. 877 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: And he literally the guy starts talking for a second, 878 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: and Stephen just goes, Kelly, hang up the phone. He's like, 879 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: hang up the phone. I'll call you back. Hang up 880 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: the phone, Hang up the phone, Hang up the phone, 881 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: Hang up the phone. I had been on this call 882 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: for two hours, y'all. Oh, and I'm sobbing in a 883 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 1: fucking gas station parking lot in downtown Nashville, basically two 884 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: minutes from the Sheriff's Department that if I had gone 885 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: to obviously they would have been like, ma'am, this is 886 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: not real, which is why they didn't want me to go. 887 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: But I finally hung up the phone, get back on 888 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: the phone with Steve, and he's like, this is happening 889 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: so much in America. The PPP stuff is like the 890 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: new scam, and they get you because they don't mention 891 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: the money until so far in. But basically when I 892 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: went back and now I've looked at the paperwork, what 893 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: they do is they're telling me I needed to go 894 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: to my financial institution because I was like, you guys 895 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: won't tell me who I need to get a money 896 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: order made out, because I was just thinking it wouldn't 897 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: They wouldn't take first of all credit cards, but they 898 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't take cash either, Like I was like, I don't 899 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: have a check book, so I was thinking I needed 900 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: to go get a money order or they kept saying 901 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: a bond. So I was just like, how do I 902 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: do that? Y'all are acting like that's common knowledge, and 903 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: I know you guys deal with this every day. That's 904 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: what I was thinking, But I was like, I don't. 905 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm a regular person. I don't know how to do 906 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. I've never like, I don't commit crimes. This 907 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: isn't something that I'm like used to when you say 908 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: a bond and they're like, well, did you read the paperwork? 909 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: And that was when I said what I said about that. 910 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: But then now that I've looked at the paperwork and 911 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: what now, since I've filed a real police report about this, 912 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: they have told me is what they'll do is they'll 913 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: get you to basically it's called coin flip, which is 914 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: some form of bitcoin, and they get you to go 915 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: to this specific machine. Because basically we were on the 916 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: phone until after my bank had closed, so I couldn't 917 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: have gone to my bank. Because what started to trigger 918 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: me is I was like, you guys are telling me 919 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: to go get sixty five hundred dollars in cash and 920 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: walk into the sheriff's department with that much, just a 921 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: lot of cash, Like, no, that is something about that. 922 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: I was like, that's my understanding right now, And then 923 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: a k won, well did you read the paperwork? Did 924 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: you read the paperwork? Obviously what they wanted me to 925 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: do was go do this bitcoin thing or whatever the 926 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: coin flip thing is. And the cop that I did 927 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: file the police. The real police report was said, once 928 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: that money is gone, there is absolutely no way to 929 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: get it back, Like so I would have been out 930 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: almost seven thousand dollars. Could you fucking imagine? I feel 931 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: sick at my stomach thinking about that. 932 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: I think about think. 933 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: About people who don't have lawyers, who aren't don't have 934 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: the way with all the text or get this phone 935 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: call like on their landline, you know, like they don't 936 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: have another way to communicate with somebody. Like it's terrifying. 937 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 2: Remember Mary Hilliard had something happened to her similar, and 938 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: it was like they gave they gave her the address 939 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: on Broadway, and it was like it just happened to 940 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: be like one number off from Whiskey. 941 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 3: Row or something like that, and she knew, yeah, and. 942 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: She knew so like that tipped her off, really, you know, 943 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: but it was still like she was on her way 944 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: down there. 945 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: Well. 946 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: I the thing that threw me is they gave me 947 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: the actual sheriff Department's number, because I obviously googled it 948 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: before I started driving, because I was like, I'm not 949 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: about to get raped and murdered here, like I need 950 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm actually legit going to the Sheriff's 951 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: department where when I walk in, I'm not in actual danger. 952 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: But it didn't. The reason I was so like, no, 953 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel safe at first because I'm like, this 954 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: could still be scammers and they're setting me up to 955 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: like steal me from the sheriff Department's parking lot, you know. 956 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: I mean there's also so much trafficking that happens. It's 957 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: so startling. It's startling as anyone, but as a woman, 958 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: it's like a level up of just how do I 959 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: keep myself safe and protected? Because I just was like 960 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: imagining the worst obviously, And the thing was, it's like 961 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: what to your point about Like I just I want 962 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: to say I'm not stupid, y'all. 963 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 2: Like the workshop this they figured out an answer for 964 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 2: every question that you can possibly throw your way. 965 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 3: And clearly there's probably more than one of them in 966 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 3: the room, and they're. 967 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: Like they put me on the phone with at least. 968 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 2: Four of us, right, so they're all listening and they're 969 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 2: probably hitting mute and stuff, and when you're saying things, 970 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 2: they're figuring out what their response is going to be. 971 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: Well, the police, the real police told me he was like, 972 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: they have a script that they follow and they know 973 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: this that. He was like, they've probably called ten people 974 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: since they've called you, Like it's just happening so frequently. 975 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: And they got me really far in the process, Like 976 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure some people don't ever call that number back, 977 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: but they just they caught me on the right day 978 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, like I was just tired enough. 979 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: I had just enough real life situations happening that made 980 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: me think in my head, I need to call this 981 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: number back, like it seemed legit enough. And then they 982 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: they hooked me enough with the way that they were 983 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: telling this story. And again, the personal information that they 984 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: have is like stressful because you're just like, well if. 985 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: They had and most people aren't as private, so it's 986 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 2: really easy for those people to have that information. 987 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: Most people you can just google their name and figure 988 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: out where they live, their number, they're all their stuff 989 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: and like, and I really because whenever I was on 990 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: that TV show and you know, getting death threats and shit, 991 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: I really tried to like start protecting myself in a 992 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: new kind of way. And the thing my mom said 993 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: to me that I never even thought about was she 994 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 1: was like, you're texting us, and I thought your phone 995 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: had been taken over at first, and then she said, 996 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: and then also like you have a public platform, like 997 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: she said, even if someone had called me with your 998 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: voice saying this stuff, She's like now with AI, I'm 999 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: getting so stressed out that they could have like mimicked 1000 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: your voice, like our voices chip are everywhere, right. That's 1001 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 1: actually how people recognize me more often than my face now. 1002 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: Is like if I start talking at something, they're like, oh, 1003 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: do you have that podcast? You know, like it's so nice. 1004 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: It loo's scary in some ways because it's like you 1005 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: want to do the things like we do. But this 1006 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: kind of stuff makes me want to just like crawl 1007 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: into a bunker with all my people and just like 1008 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: cut it all off, you know, like go back to 1009 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: complete privacy where no one knows anything about you, because 1010 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you could get your identity still on, you 1011 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: can get scammed like all the things. Like I've lost 1012 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: so many tears. I'm fucking exhausted, my nervous system is shot. 1013 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: Like thank god that my lawyer answered at the right 1014 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: time and is such a giving person and like so kind. 1015 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: Thank god my parents. My parents had called the Nashville 1016 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: Police Department. And they also said she needs to hang 1017 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: up the phone. They both texted me that, like right 1018 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: when my lawyer got on the phone with me, right right, Yeah. 1019 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: But like my mom missed her hair appointment because she 1020 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to. I know that sounds small, but I ruined, 1021 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: not ruined, But this has like affected so many people's day. 1022 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: Like my boyfriend missed a meeting, like he was like 1023 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: all stressed out about it. Like so so many people 1024 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: were impacted by this, and you like we didn't get 1025 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 1: to record on time. You're like, is she alive? What 1026 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: the fuck is happening? But it's just like I didn't 1027 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: know what to do and I was doing I literally 1028 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: just had this vision of, uh, like I'm gonna be 1029 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: in jail and no one's gonna know where I am, 1030 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: and it's gonna take them forever to find me, because 1031 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 1: no one would imagine that I would just be in jail, 1032 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: you know, like it's like you're checking jails for me 1033 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: if you can't find me. And it just was so 1034 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: it's like I need to just fire off information as 1035 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: quick as I can that that if something did happen 1036 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: like that, you guys could like figure it out or 1037 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: find me right. 1038 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it. 1039 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: Felt like that, and it made me feel so sad 1040 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: about like anyone who's been wrongfully arrested or any of 1041 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,280 Speaker 1: that stuff. But I know it happens all the time, 1042 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: but this scam stuff is Whi's just like so freaky 1043 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: about our culture right now. 1044 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 3: It's wild. 1045 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean, people are desperate, they'll do anything, and sixty 1046 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 2: five dollars for two hours of work is not bad money. 1047 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, you know what I mean. It's in cash, yeah, 1048 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: but and think about I just wonder how many people 1049 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: actually do it, and like the other one that gets a. 1050 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 3: Multi billion dollar business. 1051 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: It makes me really sad because I bet a lot 1052 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: of people who don't really have that money to give 1053 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 1: are giving it. 1054 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 1055 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: Like then they can't pay their fucking mortgage because they've 1056 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: lost and like the cops said, there's no way they're 1057 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: getting that back. And it's like, there's no way that 1058 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 1: the cops are I mean, I filed a police report 1059 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: and they'd sent me all that paperwork, you know, and 1060 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: so I sent that to a person. But do I 1061 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: have high hopes that they're going to find these people? 1062 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 2: No? 1063 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean I mostly reported it because I wanted to 1064 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: request some drive buys by my house because I'm scared 1065 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: because these people have my address right right, I mean, 1066 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: hopefully it's just one of those things. 1067 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 3: That they well, they're probably not even. 1068 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: We don't even know if they're here, right like, like, 1069 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that it's just a situation where they 1070 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 1: were trying to get me to send money somewhere. 1071 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 3: So unbelievable. 1072 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: But my dad was like, yeah, they're targeting all the 1073 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: PPP people because they can see how much money you got. 1074 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 1: First of all, though, I'm like, it's twenty twenty three. 1075 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: Do you eys that money? 1076 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you had a mortgage. 1077 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: To pay exactly, Like that was what kept me afloat 1078 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: that that money is not he's still here. But I 1079 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: think that, you know, I don't know, they just know 1080 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: that people at some point had X amount of money, 1081 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: so well. 1082 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 2: And it's just all the infos there. It gives them 1083 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 2: all the clues that they need, and yeah, it's fucking wild. 1084 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? 1085 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 3: Could you? How scared would you have been if you, 1086 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 3: like the call had dropped, Well. 1087 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: I think I would have If the call had dropped, 1088 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: I would have been fine, because I would have been like, well, 1089 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: they'll call me. 1090 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: Back, you know, and they would have they would have 1091 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 2: immediate would have screamed at you. 1092 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: To make it think it was my fault. My biggest 1093 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: fear was getting arrested at work. I was just like 1094 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: and being stuck in jail for seventy two hours and 1095 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: nobody knowing where the fuck I was. 1096 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 3: Like, I was just like, I'm gonna hire some fake 1097 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 3: cops to come arrest you at work one day. 1098 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: It literally would not be funny. It would not at 1099 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: all be funny. 1100 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 3: And then they're just going to start stripping well you, Oh. 1101 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 1: My god, I would kill you literally, like I can't 1102 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: think of anything worse. And I would probably also have 1103 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: a heart attack and like keel over because I'm so 1104 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: startled right now, right, But like it's just yeah, I 1105 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: just anyway, I wanted to tell the story publicly. Sorry 1106 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: if that was long winded, you guys, but I just 1107 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: if you get a call like that, and they especially 1108 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: if they're making you stay on the phone. That was 1109 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: what the cop kept reiterating to me, is if they 1110 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: make you stay on the phone, it's a scam. And 1111 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: he was just like, the funny thing is. So they're like, 1112 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,720 Speaker 1: I call the non emergency Nashville line of the police 1113 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: Department and I'm talking to him and he was like, okay, well, 1114 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: just so you know, like in the future, no cop 1115 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: would ever call you like that, and he was and 1116 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: then he's like, we're talking for a second. I was 1117 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: like okay, okay, And so we were talking for a 1118 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: second and he's like, I tell him I have that paperwork, 1119 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: and he said, actually, I really think you should file 1120 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: a real police report about this, because like first he 1121 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: kind of thought I was just like, at first, I 1122 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: was just calling to kind of report and ask for 1123 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: some drive buys tonight. But then he said, I think 1124 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: you should file an actual police report because the information 1125 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 1: you have, and he said, I'll have the cop call 1126 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: you back. And then he goes, oh hmm, because it's like. 1127 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 3: Right, caught himself. 1128 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: He just had told me a cop will never call you. 1129 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: And then he was like, I'll have the detective call 1130 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: you at this time. And I was like, see, right, 1131 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: how do I know this is a real detective. Like 1132 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: when the detective called me to fill out the police report, 1133 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: they asked you for your driver's license number, and I 1134 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: was like, okay, sorry, sir, but I have literally just 1135 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 1: been through the ringer with scammer. How do I know 1136 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: that I am safe to give you this right now? 1137 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: Like and he had to talk me through it because 1138 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: I was so nervous about giving that information over the phone. 1139 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 3: Right Oh yeah, yoie. 1140 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, so welcome back to America, Chip. 1141 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1142 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 1143 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 3: It had gotten me today too, because I'm tired as hell. 1144 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: So you can't imagine your jet lag. I mean, your 1145 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: whole plane story is for another day because it's. 1146 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 3: Show United Airlines. 1147 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 2: I'm coming for you watch out now. I wish I 1148 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 2: would had been more active on Twitter because I don't 1149 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 2: know what the followers for them. They care, but maybe 1150 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: there's enough listeners here so they better do the right 1151 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: thing or I'm coming for them. 1152 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 3: Fork. 1153 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're taking out United Airlines and scammers worldwide. 1154 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 3: Watch out. 1155 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: The Velvet Edge podcast has just completely changed its whole 1156 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: identity and all we are now is trying to take 1157 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: out the undercover. Yeah, we do have a new topic 1158 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: for you, guys. It's the first week of the month 1159 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: of November. It's kind of wrapping up twenty twenty three here, 1160 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: and I know, honestly October was a little wild, but 1161 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: I felt like, hopefully you guys kept your head on straight. 1162 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: I know the energy was just insanely intense for a 1163 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: lot of people with all the eclipses and things of 1164 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: that nature. But we're moving into a new month. I 1165 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: did do my astrology report with Marv a little bit 1166 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,479 Speaker 1: sketchy as well, but you guys go check that out. 1167 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: We do have a new word for you, guys. We 1168 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: have a new theme. We have a new word, and 1169 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: it kind of I feel like I sort of would 1170 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: embrace it right now, like shake it off, you know, 1171 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 1: But do you want to introduce a chip or would 1172 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: you like me too? 1173 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 3: I would like you too. 1174 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you're too jetlagged for it. 1175 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm too jetlagged. 1176 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 1: Basically what we thought about when I was thinking about 1177 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: the month of November and just some of the guests 1178 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: that we have coming on and sort of where I 1179 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: am is in this kind of part part of the year, 1180 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: and where I've heard a lot of my friends say 1181 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: they are as well. And when you look outside and 1182 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: you see the trees and they're dropping all the leaves, 1183 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: I just kept thinking about the word shedding, like shedding, 1184 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: letting go like that was a huge part of the 1185 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: eclipse season as well, was just letting go of old beliefs, 1186 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: old habits, old relationships, old things that weren't serving you, 1187 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: and it just it's like you look outside in Nashville. 1188 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how it is in the rest of 1189 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: the world, but you look outside in Nashville and the 1190 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: leaves are literally just falling by the minute, just dropping, dropping, dropping. 1191 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: It's like the trees are clearing out, they're getting ready 1192 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: for winter and for then the new spring. And so 1193 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,280 Speaker 1: this month we kind of just wanted to focus on shedding, 1194 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: like what are you shedding? What are your stories of shedding? 1195 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: And the guests that are going to come on are 1196 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: going to tell their stories of kind of the things 1197 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: that they've let go of in their lives to get 1198 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: to the place they are now, and what the different 1199 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: seasons have looked like, what it's you know, brought to 1200 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: their lives by doing the shedding process, maybe even what 1201 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: that has looked like, because it's not always pretty. We 1202 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: know it can be a little messy, and then there's 1203 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: some fun stuff too. We had talked a little bit. 1204 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys haven't read Britney Spears 1205 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: new book. Please get on that because we will be discussing. 1206 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: I finished it in four days. It was so good. 1207 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: Team Brittany all the way. I just really feel for her. 1208 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: But she has done doing a lot of shedding right now, 1209 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: I feel so. I think there's a lot of examples 1210 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: of it in our culture as well. So that is 1211 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: what we'll be discussing, shedding scatting. What are you feeling 1212 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: like you want to shed? Do you have any ideas? 1213 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: What do I need to shed right now? You just 1214 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 3: need to sleep probably a lot. 1215 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think there's a lot of things that 1216 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 2: I probably need to work on shedding. And you know 1217 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 2: that movie that I sent you today, like some of 1218 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,959 Speaker 2: it is just like in the way that I think 1219 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 2: about things, Yeah, and just differences and embracing them a 1220 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 2: little bit more because you know, yeah, and and I well, 1221 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 2: I think that you know, the way that the world 1222 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: is going, it's so easy to be really angry all 1223 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 2: the time, and especially especially of other you know, of 1224 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: things that like you don't necessarily agree with or that 1225 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: they don't fall perfectly in line with your belief systems. 1226 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 2: And you know, when I saw that documentary that I 1227 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 2: sent you, earlier today, which we may get into this month. 1228 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: It just made me like think, like sometimes you know, 1229 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 2: on a cellular level, we're not as different or things 1230 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 2: aren't as different as we think they are, and giving 1231 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: an energy that is at all negative is a waste 1232 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: of my time, is hurtful and all of the things. 1233 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 2: So I think, just you know, the way that I 1234 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 2: look at things that are different is is, and and 1235 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 2: the negativity that I sometimes put towards that is the 1236 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 2: main thing that I want to shed. 1237 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: Ooh, I love that. 1238 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to think about mine. I'm too rattled 1239 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: right now. I just want to shed the energy that 1240 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 1: this scammers put on me. 1241 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, shud the shit out of that. Well, I'm glad 1242 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 2: you were able to share that. I mean, what an 1243 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 2: insane story. 1244 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: It's so insane. And I honestly like I said to you, like, 1245 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: let's record in the morning and put the podcast up 1246 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: late because I was so rattled. And then I thought 1247 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: about it and I was like, no, I have to 1248 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: tell this story because I know this is going to 1249 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: happen to other people. So I just want it to 1250 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: not happen to any of our I don't want it 1251 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: to happen to anyone, but I really am just like, 1252 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen to any of our listeners. 1253 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: So I hope that if you guys get a call 1254 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: that's all remotely related to what I just described, you 1255 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: just hang the phone up, Just hang up, Just hang up, 1256 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: just hang up, email me, text me whatever. I'll tell 1257 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: you what to do. 1258 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to text you after this a story that 1259 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 2: you need to read because it will it will make 1260 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: you laugh. 1261 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 3: But I'll also just mention here. 1262 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if our listeners will recognize the name 1263 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 2: Dave Holmes, but he was the guy that won the 1264 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 2: Like Want to Be a VJ contest. He's now a 1265 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: writer for Esquire, he has a show on Serious, He's 1266 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 2: written a book like He's He's a friend and years 1267 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 2: ago he something similar like this happened to him, and 1268 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: he live tweeted the experience. He knew that he was 1269 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 2: being scammed, so he leaned into it and made them 1270 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 2: think that he didn't know he was being scammed and 1271 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 2: that he was like, my credit card pin won't work. 1272 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 3: What do I do? 1273 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 2: You know? Like they were giving him answers, so it's 1274 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: a really fun and so he live tweeted the whole thing, 1275 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 2: So I'll send it to you to read because maybe 1276 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: it'll bring some levity. 1277 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: To your situation. Please. 1278 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: I wish I had known and I had done the 1279 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: same thing I did screen record. I started once that 1280 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: guy told me. He was like, man, we are on 1281 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: a recorded call. And I was like good. And then 1282 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: I was like, why am I not recording this shit 1283 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: in case? Because well either way, because I was like, one, 1284 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the way this quote unquote officer had spoken to me 1285 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 1: and was just cutting me off and not listening was 1286 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: not okay. And then two, if this wasn't real, I 1287 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: was like, I want this documented. So luckily I have 1288 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: a couple of those things. I don't know. I hope 1289 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: the fucking cops find these guys. I mean, my my 1290 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: lawyer was like, you can call the FBI. I don't 1291 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: know if you want to get that involved in this, 1292 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: but and who knows. You know, they don't usually catch 1293 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: these people, but it seems to be very Every person 1294 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: in the law enforcement world that I've told this to 1295 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: is like this, Yep, that's what they do. It's like 1296 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: very common. So anyway, that's what we got for you guys. 1297 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 1: If you have stories that are similar and you feel 1298 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: like sharing them with me. Let's unite over this topic 1299 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: because it really just rocked my world today. You can 1300 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: email us at the Edge at velvetzedge dot com, or 1301 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: you can slide into my DMS on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's. 1302 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 2: Edge, Chip, I'm at Chip doorsh It's hip d r scch. 1303 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling this one to myself right now. But unless 1304 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: you guys go into the weekend and you're living on 1305 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: the edge, I really hope that we all can just 1306 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: remember too a casual lord. I need that right now. Bye.