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Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows. Hey everyone, this is Good
Speaker 1: Calls on Dean Blendno, Welcome to the show. I've got
Speaker 1: Travis with me as always, Joe on audio. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Let's start? Nice intro. Joe love the music, great job already,
Speaker 1: I love the video. Thank you, great job on the Dean.
Speaker 1: How was the weekend? You know what, Travis, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you asked. How was my weekend? Okay, overall, had a
Speaker 1: good weekend. I want to share. Saturday night, I went
Speaker 1: to see one of my favorite comedians here in l
Speaker 1: A at the Orpheum Theater, Tom Segura, and I was
Speaker 1: so excited. I had not seen Tom live. If you
Speaker 1: check him out, he's hilarious YouTube. He's got a couple
Speaker 1: of Netflix specials. But I was really pumped to see
Speaker 1: him live. And Uh, I went to the show and
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't have a great time. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just felt I left and I just wasn't happy.
Speaker 1: And I was kind of reflecting on the show, and
Speaker 1: I realized why I wasn't happy because the guy next
Speaker 1: to me was laughing so over the top and overreacting
Speaker 1: at every joke. He ruined my experience, like not every
Speaker 1: joke is that funny. I love Tom Sagura, but he
Speaker 1: because he was laughing so much, it made my enjoyment
Speaker 1: that much less, like literally laughing like he was an
Speaker 1: NBA player at All Star Game, you know, on the
Speaker 1: sideline watching the dunks, like that was his reaction every joke,
Speaker 1: and like every joke isn't a tent right, right, every
Speaker 1: every joke is not Vince Carter, like in in the
Speaker 1: Slam Dunk Contest too thousand. I think it was in
Speaker 1: Oakland where he or spud Web, you know, like not
Speaker 1: every dunk is Dominique Wilkins. And this guy ruined the
Speaker 1: Tom Sagura show. And this guy you didn't know him, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know him, Like here's some complete stranger. And
Speaker 1: then he's like looking from my he's like looking for
Speaker 1: affirmation from me that the joke was that. Why aren't
Speaker 1: you laughing? Like hitting me, like hitting me when the left,
Speaker 1: like I was funny, but it wasn't that funny, Like
Speaker 1: stop you're killing ruined. It ruined the show for me,
Speaker 1: so I might have to go And I think, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think Cigar. I think Tom is gonna
Speaker 1: be in like Australian next so I might have to
Speaker 1: fly to Australia. It sounds like him podcast on the
Speaker 1: on the Road exactly. Personal foul against the gentleman. Personal foul.
Speaker 1: Nice there's the whistle, look at you. The audio guy
Speaker 1: finally figured sound effects. Nice job. But that wasn't the
Speaker 1: worst thing that happened to me this weekend. Okay, the
Speaker 1: real tragedy of the weekend. I was Friday night. I
Speaker 1: was driving home. I was was that the USC game
Speaker 1: and great game, USC big win be the top ten
Speaker 1: team Utah and UH with a third string quarterback by
Speaker 1: the way, but a great, great game. I was driving home,
Speaker 1: I was starving and it was Taco Bell, so I
Speaker 1: made a run for the border. I went to Taco Bell,
Speaker 1: got to the drive through. I was so excited. I
Speaker 1: had my music playing, I was upbeat hip hop. I
Speaker 1: was just pumped. And my favorite item on the menu
Speaker 1: when I go to Taco Bell is the double decker
Speaker 1: Taco Supreme. So that's my go to it's like pull up.
Speaker 1: She asked me, hey, can I help you? Welcome to
Speaker 1: Taco Bell can help you. I like, you can absolutely
Speaker 1: help me. I want to double decker Taco Supremes. And
Speaker 1: I was like, gonna order I don't know something else
Speaker 1: after that, and she stopped me. She's like, sir, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: We changed the menu. We don't have that on the
Speaker 1: menu anymore. And then she said, sensing my like a disappointment,
Speaker 1: my anguish, I'll give you a minute. And I lived
Speaker 1: and I legitimately, I swear to God, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to need more than a minute. Change the music too,
Speaker 1: I like put on air supply right, I put on
Speaker 1: It was just it was so sad. So they changed
Speaker 1: the menu. They took the double decker Taco Supreme. I
Speaker 1: went on. Then I went and googled it. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what I ordered. I couldn't get out. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get out of line, but you're stuck because
Speaker 1: you've got people in front of you, people behind you.
Speaker 1: I google it in the car after I ordered some
Speaker 1: I don't know Jalupa whatever it is, but no, I'm
Speaker 1: in the drive through trouvers Chalupa whatever the heck it is,
Speaker 1: and I googled it literally on the Wikipedia. It's it's
Speaker 1: a double decker Taco Supreme was an offering at Taco
Speaker 1: Bell Like it's already past tense, it didn't. We just
Speaker 1: order those a couple of weeks ordered. And for those
Speaker 1: of you that don't know what the double decko Tacos
Speaker 1: Supreme is, it's a taco, right, it's a normal taco,
Speaker 1: hard shell taco. But the beautiful part is you have
Speaker 1: the refried beans and a flower tortilla wrapped around the taco.
Speaker 1: The hard taco, the soft taco. It just creates that.
Speaker 1: You know, you have the soft, the flower tortilla, the
Speaker 1: hard corn shell of the of the taco. It's unbelievable,
Speaker 1: little hot sauce. Alright, they're not a sponsor, Okay, not yet,
Speaker 1: but gone no more taco double decker Taco still has
Speaker 1: the double decker taco. They call it a taco Bramo.
Speaker 1: What's that Taco John's? Taco John's? Do they have Taco
Speaker 1: John's here in l A? All right, well, well we'll
Speaker 1: find anyway. Okay, well we'll get to Wyoming water Travis
Speaker 1: relaxed with Wyoming, but we got a great show, Joe,
Speaker 1: what time? What time were gonna publish the show? Um
Speaker 1: today later on? What time do you think they wanted
Speaker 1: for the drive home on the East Coast and the
Speaker 1: East coast two o'clock two pm, two pm Pacific? What
Speaker 1: is that? You know? What? What? What's that? Mountain time? Oh?
Speaker 1: See everyone, everyone, I ask if you ask somebody, you said,
Speaker 1: what time is it? And they tell you and then
Speaker 1: you go, what does that mountain time? They have to
Speaker 1: think about the thing. They have to think about it exactly.
Speaker 1: It's the most it's the most neglected time zone in
Speaker 1: the US. Like nobody, nobody's like, oh that's you know,
Speaker 1: the game is four o'clock eastern, one o'clock Pacific, four
Speaker 1: o'clock eastern, three o'clock Central. No one throws mountain in there.
Speaker 1: So I am I'm making a decree, a rules decree.
Speaker 1: Wyomis on mountain time? Of course it is. So we
Speaker 1: are going to only use mountain time when we discuss
Speaker 1: when we discuss time. So you guys start prushing up
Speaker 1: on your mountain time because nobody it's like in the
Speaker 1: Broncos right home Bronco game, what time is it normally?
Speaker 1: Startle eleven Mountain. If we're going to the early window,
Speaker 1: they don't play at eleven mountains. They're usually in the
Speaker 1: late slot. I'm just trying to they don't play see exactly,
Speaker 1: they don't. You don't start football games at eleven local NFL,
Speaker 1: then doesn't happen. They're playing at two oh five or
Speaker 1: alright whatever, moving on, Moving on, Speaking of NFL, let's
Speaker 1: get to the NFL. A lot to talk about. Thursday
Speaker 1: night was crazy, Okay, crazy the first half, right, So
Speaker 1: Thursday night it's the Jaguars and Titans in Jacksonville. It's raining,
Speaker 1: it's muddy, it's sloppy, and fifteen fouls in the first half,
Speaker 1: eight holding calls in the first half, right, So what happens? Okay,
Speaker 1: we have this first half, first play of the game
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, you have a holding call, all these things.
Speaker 1: It's sloppy, it's messy, and somebody gets on Twitter and
Speaker 1: and somebody, you know who's pretty new to Twitter by
Speaker 1: the way, but my man TB twelve man Tom Brady said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I've had enough of this and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take to Twitter. Travis, what what did he tweet?
Speaker 1: So his first tweet, he says, quote, too many penalties,
Speaker 1: just let us play hashtag Tennessee versus Jackson. I love
Speaker 1: I love Travis, Like That's how Tom was saying it.
Speaker 1: As Tom was tweeting it, he was saying it like that,
Speaker 1: like with that kind of conviction and and feel it
Speaker 1: it went viral, right, I mean what, Travis? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I had like nine thousand likes and and like just
Speaker 1: over eleven thousand like retweets. Insane, insane. And then as
Speaker 1: if that's not enough to make matters worth worse, he
Speaker 1: doubles down. Seven minutes later, he says, I'm turning this game.
Speaker 1: I'm turning off this game. I can't watch these ridiculous
Speaker 1: penalties anymore. Hashtag Tennessee versus jacks that the hashtag is
Speaker 1: the best part to like Tom knows Twitter Like, Tom's like,
Speaker 1: we want this to trend, so we're gonna go hashtag.
Speaker 1: You don't think Tom has somebody tweeting for him. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that that tweet had went even more
Speaker 1: viral hundred and twenty eight thousand likes in twenty three tweets.
Speaker 1: So so Tom is upset. He's he's watching the game,
Speaker 1: doing his thing. He tweets, he turns the game off
Speaker 1: and magically, magically, fifteen fouls in the first half, the
Speaker 1: third quarter clean nothing, no fouls. I was on with
Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and Friday, and Rich described it because Shawn
Speaker 1: Hockeyley was the referee, and he said, in the first
Speaker 1: half it was t MH, too much hockey lely. In
Speaker 1: the third quarter it was n m H, no more
Speaker 1: hockey ly and and so fifteen fouls first half, Brady
Speaker 1: tweets no fouls in the third quarter. It was a
Speaker 1: little curious, weird. Do you think that anyone from the
Speaker 1: league maybe gave a call to the crew at the half?
Speaker 1: You know, I thought about that, and I'd be shocked.
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. If you know, Goodell is watching
Speaker 1: the game, Goodell calls River and he's like, oh, what
Speaker 1: the hell. Al's like, I'm gonna call Sean Sewan? What
Speaker 1: the hell? I that that. I'd be shocked if that happened.
Speaker 1: As you don't, you know, you don't interrupt or inject
Speaker 1: yourself from the league office into a game like that
Speaker 1: when you talk about calling penalties. You know, in an
Speaker 1: ideal world, look, it's the two teams that are going
Speaker 1: to decide how many fouls there are and you let
Speaker 1: the officials officiate the game. Um So, to answer your question, no,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that happened. So in the time that
Speaker 1: you were the VP, did you ever call down from
Speaker 1: the control center and make any requests like that. I
Speaker 1: was actually the senior VP when I left the NFL Joe,
Speaker 1: But thanks um so when you were the senior VP,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. You know, there was there was
Speaker 1: a handful of times that I did communicate with the
Speaker 1: crew during the game. One that stood out was during
Speaker 1: the I believe it was the two thousand fifteen season
Speaker 1: Panthers Giants, and it was the game where um oh,
Speaker 1: b J and Josh Norman were going at it. There
Speaker 1: was an issue pre game and and then they had
Speaker 1: had multiple personal fouls and and so I communicated with
Speaker 1: the crew that we had to get the game under
Speaker 1: control and that and that if there were any more
Speaker 1: personal fouls that you have to consider rejecting players. Now. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't tell them don't call fouls or qual more
Speaker 1: qualmore fouls. It was just a player it's a player
Speaker 1: safety thing, it's a control thing. So that was something
Speaker 1: that I did I felt compelled to do. Very rarely
Speaker 1: would that ever happen. But that was one instance where
Speaker 1: where I did do that, and uh, and you know
Speaker 1: it was it was warranted. I felt in that in
Speaker 1: that moment. But but again, um, I just think it.
Speaker 1: Look the third quarter, there just weren't any foul So
Speaker 1: there wasn't anything that raised that level. It was a
Speaker 1: coincidence it happens. Um. I think that there was. There
Speaker 1: was some holding calls. I think two more in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and uh, and I think there were and
Speaker 1: I think they ended up twenty two fouls for the game.
Speaker 1: Imagine coaches in the locker room to a like, let's
Speaker 1: stop this, stop holding, like you guys play the game
Speaker 1: the way it should be. Well, yeah, there's certainly teams
Speaker 1: will make adjustments. The officiating crew could make adjustments at halftime.
Speaker 1: They could get together because officials know when when officials,
Speaker 1: the one person that knows when a call is solid
Speaker 1: or if a call is shaky is that official and
Speaker 1: they and they know when they throw the flag when
Speaker 1: it's there or if they have the second guests themselves
Speaker 1: and they think, you know what, I'd like to have
Speaker 1: that one back. So the crew might have got together
Speaker 1: at halftime and just said you know what, you know,
Speaker 1: let's we're being a little bit overly technical. Let's try
Speaker 1: to clean it up in the second half. Let's make
Speaker 1: sure that the fouls are there. And I think that
Speaker 1: that may certainly have been something that happened in the
Speaker 1: in the halftime in the locker room. UM. But then
Speaker 1: so interesting we have Thursday night and uh, and then
Speaker 1: Saturday night, on the eve of the games on Sunday,
Speaker 1: the league has a conference call with the referee. So
Speaker 1: so the senior vice president officiating our river N has
Speaker 1: a conference call with all seventeen referees. And we learned
Speaker 1: about this um via and Kevin Seffert from ESPN posted
Speaker 1: an article about it. And so the gist of the
Speaker 1: call was to talk about offensive holding, where where they
Speaker 1: were and to make sure that all seventeen crews were
Speaker 1: on the same page as it pertained two holding and
Speaker 1: and and so UM. This is something that on the
Speaker 1: eve of the game took on the eve of the
Speaker 1: games on Sunday took place, and it definitely had an effect.
Speaker 1: And when you look at up until that point, including
Speaker 1: the game Thursday, first two weeks and the one game Thursday,
Speaker 1: we were averaging five five point six holds per game
Speaker 1: hundred and eighties seven holding calls in thirty three games
Speaker 1: in the In the fourteen games on Sunday, okay, there
Speaker 1: were forty one holding calls two point nine, so a
Speaker 1: drastic dec reece in holes. And and I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say that that that decrease had something to
Speaker 1: do with that call. I don't think that the players
Speaker 1: just stopped holding at a clip of you know, almost
Speaker 1: half and uh, you know that changed. You know, the
Speaker 1: players adjusted um from Thursday to Sunday, so so definitely
Speaker 1: had something to do with that call. And we believe
Speaker 1: on that call. Again, get on the same page. Let's
Speaker 1: make sure that the holds are there. And uh and
Speaker 1: the focus obviously from the competition committee standpoint was they
Speaker 1: want to get see the backside holding cleaned up. Then,
Speaker 1: when you were the head officiating, the senior vice president,
Speaker 1: thank you. Did you have these calls during the week
Speaker 1: and and when did you have? You know you do
Speaker 1: have It's not unusual. Look, this isn't unusual for a
Speaker 1: phone call to happen with the referees on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: And and you certainly why that is is because you
Speaker 1: have all of the referees Um, there are fifteen sixteen
Speaker 1: games the ending on you know, buys and things like that, so, uh,
Speaker 1: you have all of the referees in the city for
Speaker 1: that game and uh, and so they're already going through
Speaker 1: their pregames, so it is a good time sometimes to
Speaker 1: get all the referees together. So not unusual to have
Speaker 1: a phone call. But if you're gonna have a phone
Speaker 1: call about something as important as holding, and certainly based
Speaker 1: on where we've been the first two weeks of the
Speaker 1: regular season, where the numbers have been so high, you
Speaker 1: would want at least in my opinion, to have that
Speaker 1: call during the week officials are graded. They go through
Speaker 1: every call on Wednesday, so the officiating department, the supervisors
Speaker 1: h Riverant, they look at all the calls and everything
Speaker 1: for the week on Wednesday. I would have that call
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, get all the referees on the same page,
Speaker 1: and then because the key is you have to communicate
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make a change in philosophy on holding
Speaker 1: and not saying that's what was said on the call,
Speaker 1: but the numbers certainly would would lead you to believe
Speaker 1: that something changed. You would have that call on Wednesday
Speaker 1: during the week and then you can put a tape
Speaker 1: together and let the clubs know, hey, here's here's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna look like this week, so the clubs can adjust.
Speaker 1: Because remember they're coaching their players. They know that the
Speaker 1: league has been calling holding. We got to make sure
Speaker 1: not that they're not that they're gonna say, okay, well
Speaker 1: we're gonna get away with holding, but at least put
Speaker 1: a tape together and say, these are examples of what
Speaker 1: are is a foul, and these are examples of what
Speaker 1: is not a foul. So everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where you know, if it were me,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what I would have done. Um and
Speaker 1: again because the numbers do, look, that call had something
Speaker 1: to do with it, because when you go from five
Speaker 1: point six to two point nine per game, that's a drastic,
Speaker 1: drastic drop. And I did here. Look, I heard from
Speaker 1: at least two clubs. I had one club call me
Speaker 1: to find out if there was a call, so so
Speaker 1: that obviously tells me that the clubs were not made
Speaker 1: aware of the phone call and that that call happened
Speaker 1: on Sunday. And then and then I had another club
Speaker 1: that again asked me about the call, and they were
Speaker 1: they were pretty upset that that call had happened and
Speaker 1: without the clubs being notified of any potential changes. So
Speaker 1: so again something to you know, I think this is
Speaker 1: going forward. I agree, I think we were a little
Speaker 1: bit out of whack withholding. But if you're gonna make
Speaker 1: that philosophy change, certainly the competition committee has to be
Speaker 1: on board, and you want to alert the clubs to
Speaker 1: to any kind of change when it comes to something
Speaker 1: so critical to the game that can happen on any
Speaker 1: play when you're talking about offensive holding. So you know,
Speaker 1: and it was interesting just how it all played out
Speaker 1: from a timing perspective for sure. All right, let's shift gears.
Speaker 1: Let's go to past inference. Obviously this has been a
Speaker 1: hot topic and it continued this week. We had a
Speaker 1: bunch of reviews for past inference, nine total for the
Speaker 1: week so far, and this doesn't include the game Monday
Speaker 1: night obviously, so nine total reviews. There were three that
Speaker 1: involved offensive past inference, six that involved defensive past in
Speaker 1: deference and uh and and of the nine reviews only
Speaker 1: one was overturned. There was a dp I in Tampa
Speaker 1: that was not called on the field that was created
Speaker 1: in a replay. So so again we're looking at these.
Speaker 1: This is the majority of the replay reviews are now
Speaker 1: past in afference reviews, and I think that will continue
Speaker 1: throughout the season. And uh and and it was just
Speaker 1: it was interesting. One of our games on Sunday was
Speaker 1: the Lions Eagles games game, and there was two plays
Speaker 1: in that game that really stood out for me as
Speaker 1: we talked about replay and uh and so you had
Speaker 1: you had Miles Sanders returns a kickoff in the in
Speaker 1: the second quarter and literally gets his helmet ripped off,
Speaker 1: face mask, helmet ripped off, head turned around, big time,
Speaker 1: face masks. Player safety. No call. Okay, so look, the
Speaker 1: referee who's responsible um in that situation trailing to play,
Speaker 1: just didn't see it either either he got screened. He
Speaker 1: just didn't see it. But you have that foul, that's
Speaker 1: an obvious foul that's missed, that involved player safety. No
Speaker 1: recourse can't can't review it. A little bit later in
Speaker 1: the game, then you get a deep pass ruled incomplete
Speaker 1: Detroit's on offense. Detroit challenges that it was d p I.
Speaker 1: We're looking at it for two and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: We don't have enough evidence and ruling on the field stands.
Speaker 1: So we go from an obvious player safety foul, that's
Speaker 1: that would be an easy reversal, um not not being
Speaker 1: able to review that, but we're reviewing the subjective past inference.
Speaker 1: You know, was there enough contact, was it significant? Um?
Speaker 1: Did it hinder the receiver's ability to make a play
Speaker 1: on the ball. So so again I just feel like
Speaker 1: maybe maybe if this continues, what we could see going
Speaker 1: forward next year and beyond is some of these players
Speaker 1: safety fouls being reviewable similar what the n c A
Speaker 1: does and targeting versus the subjective calls. Because like you
Speaker 1: guys are in the studio, you see it, I mean
Speaker 1: from game to game. And this is not again, this
Speaker 1: is not an indictment on the decision making. It's just
Speaker 1: a hard call to be consistent on. It's impossible, it's
Speaker 1: it's subjective. It's never going to be a percent in
Speaker 1: my opinion, if they're going back looking at it because
Speaker 1: one guy looks at one thing, another guy looks at
Speaker 1: another thing, it's gonna be we we all even disagree
Speaker 1: and on the student the studio, and we all interpret
Speaker 1: everything differently. And I'll give you the other play that
Speaker 1: was from the Tampa Giants game where Pat Shermer challenged
Speaker 1: that there was offensive pass and inference on a play
Speaker 1: where where his defender was actually went to the ground.
Speaker 1: The receiver had his arm on the on the shoulder
Speaker 1: of the defender, they went to the ground. No call
Speaker 1: on the field, Sherman challenges and ruling on the field
Speaker 1: stood now. I I was texting with a couple of
Speaker 1: other of the rules analyst. Terry mcaulay thought it was
Speaker 1: an obvious foul. John Parry thought it was probably a foul.
Speaker 1: I I thought their feet tangled. I thought they were
Speaker 1: playing the ball. Their feet tangled. I thought the the
Speaker 1: hand on the shoulder didn't necessarily drag the defender to
Speaker 1: the ground. So the three of us weren't even on
Speaker 1: the same page. So what is the league gonna do?
Speaker 1: Right that that's a call that you have to let
Speaker 1: stand if it's not obvious. So I think they made
Speaker 1: the right call in that situation. But it just it
Speaker 1: just goes to show how tough that is. And and
Speaker 1: that's a tough call. You think it's tough, and replay
Speaker 1: about watching it live at full speed and then running
Speaker 1: running at full speed as an official, having to watch
Speaker 1: the contact, having to watch then catch, no catch, having
Speaker 1: to look for all these different things, and uh and
Speaker 1: make that call in real time. That's it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1: Last thing NFL sticking in Tampa Giants Tampa, we had
Speaker 1: two plays past fumble situations UM one on each side.
Speaker 1: So Jamis Winston gets hit ball, comes out, Giants pick
Speaker 1: it up, return it. Ruling on the field was a
Speaker 1: fumble covered by the defense, comes back and replay, reversed
Speaker 1: in complete pass, correct ruling and replay. A little bit
Speaker 1: later on, Daniel Jones gets hit ball, comes out, rule
Speaker 1: to fumble on the field, Tampa gets to return it,
Speaker 1: comes back and replay forward past correct call and replay. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Saints Rams play last week had
Speaker 1: anything to do with these calls officiated on Sunday? I
Speaker 1: think so. And I think, look, this isn't new. It's
Speaker 1: not a new philosophy to let the play play out
Speaker 1: if you're not sure. But I do think the magnitude
Speaker 1: of that play last week, and and and a lot
Speaker 1: the attention that it got, and obviously being a critical
Speaker 1: play at that time during the game, I think it
Speaker 1: was probably reinforced with the referees that look, if you're
Speaker 1: not sure, let it go and replay can always come back.
Speaker 1: The referee on that game, who I think is, if
Speaker 1: not the best, one of the best referees in the
Speaker 1: league today, Bill Vinovich, veteran referee. UM, he let it
Speaker 1: go and and they were both passes, but rather than
Speaker 1: yess on maybe something he didn't see quite clearly, he
Speaker 1: let it go. Replay can come back and fix it
Speaker 1: again with the lay in the game a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you don't take away a potential touchdown, a potential
Speaker 1: long return from a team UM by killing it prematurely
Speaker 1: and uh and not letting replay be able to come
Speaker 1: in and fix it. So it was definitely it was
Speaker 1: definitely an interesting um scenario. You think every time the
Speaker 1: Rams and Saints play, there's gonna be a rule change
Speaker 1: or you know, I think the league, I think the
Speaker 1: league and the schedule makers need to like, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: let's not have the Rams Saints play in the regular season.
Speaker 1: If they meet in the playoffs, we can't control that,
Speaker 1: but maybe we don't. Maybe we kind of give that
Speaker 1: match up. You know a couple of you know, they're
Speaker 1: not in the same division. So so maybe we can
Speaker 1: figure out a way where they don't play each other
Speaker 1: because to Joe's point, that game, you know, at least
Speaker 1: the last two times it hasn't been it hasn't been
Speaker 1: great for the for the officiating. Uh, let's take a break.
Speaker 1: This is Good Calls, a production of Heart Radio. Right back,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Calls. We're gonna shift years and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little from college crazy ending to
Speaker 1: the cow Old Miss game right, nonconference cal undefeated, Old Miss.
Speaker 1: I think old Mrs two and one. Maybe I'll set
Speaker 1: it up for you, Old Mrs Down. They're out of timeouts,
Speaker 1: they're driving third and goal. John Reese plumbly completes the
Speaker 1: past to Elijah More at the goal line. Is it
Speaker 1: a touchdown? Is it not a touchdown? He's right, It
Speaker 1: looks it's close. Right at the goal line. The official
Speaker 1: is all over it. Decisive rules catch in the field
Speaker 1: of play, clock running, running, running, old This gets lined up.
Speaker 1: No replay review. Reese Plumbly QB sneak on fourth and
Speaker 1: goal stop short, no replay review. Fans on the field,
Speaker 1: teams on the field, the band is on the field.
Speaker 1: Game over or was it Travis, there was a yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the intermediate miss Keith Keith Carter. He has put out
Speaker 1: a statement after the game. He said, We're extremely disappointed
Speaker 1: with officiating at the end of the game and are
Speaker 1: expecting a full explanation from the Pack twelve regarding the
Speaker 1: call and subsequent non review of the third down play.
Speaker 1: He continued, we feel strongly that the play should have
Speaker 1: been reviewed by the Pack twelve officials in the review booth.
Speaker 1: Even if the play didn't result in a touchdown, the
Speaker 1: spot of the ball on fourth down was questionable. End quote.
Speaker 1: So do you think Den Dean what what should have
Speaker 1: happened there? Yeah, It's an interesting situation and it is
Speaker 1: This is when replay officials, replay officials truly earned their money.
Speaker 1: This is a situation I've been I've been a part
Speaker 1: of replay since the NFL brought it back. I've worked
Speaker 1: with NFL replay officials, I ran the program. I've worked
Speaker 1: with college replay officials since two thousand five when the
Speaker 1: Big Ten was testing replay, and we have talked about
Speaker 1: this situation, this specific situation, and mechanically what we teach
Speaker 1: is if the offense is out of time outs near
Speaker 1: the end of the game, and the play ends with
Speaker 1: the clock running and it's close. It's questionable. Certainly here
Speaker 1: goal line obviously a big play. Mechanically, you wait to
Speaker 1: see if the offense can get legally lined up before
Speaker 1: time expires. Once they get legally lined up and there's
Speaker 1: time on the clock, you have to stop the game.
Speaker 1: You watch the play, Old Bus gets lined up and
Speaker 1: there's between three and two secons and it's just changing
Speaker 1: from three to two when old Miss gets lined up.
Speaker 1: At that point, the replay official has to stop the game.
Speaker 1: And the thinking and the theory is what you don't
Speaker 1: want to do is you don't want to stop the
Speaker 1: game with eight seconds and old mrs scrambling and they're
Speaker 1: never gonna get lined up. Now you've stopped the game.
Speaker 1: You don't change the call in the field. What have
Speaker 1: you given them? Given him a time out? You've basically
Speaker 1: given him a time out, but you've given them another
Speaker 1: snap that they would not have been entitled to. So
Speaker 1: you wait to see if they were gonna get lined up.
Speaker 1: So then with two seconds on the clock, you stop
Speaker 1: the game. If you don't change it now, there's no
Speaker 1: advantage they would have had another snap with two seconds.
Speaker 1: You have to look at that to see if it's
Speaker 1: a score. You can't just say I'm not going to
Speaker 1: stop the game because I don't want to give them
Speaker 1: a time out. Well what if it was a touchdown?
Speaker 1: Now we still don't know enough, and I would say
Speaker 1: on the fourth down play, So that's mechanically what you
Speaker 1: do what should have happened. Stop the game as soon
Speaker 1: as old Miss gets lined up. If you change it
Speaker 1: to a touchdown, great, it's a touchdown, You reset the clock.
Speaker 1: Away we go. If you don't, then you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: oh Miss the ruling on the field stands. You gotta
Speaker 1: get up on the ball. We're gonna wind the clock
Speaker 1: on the ready for play. So with two seconds on
Speaker 1: the clock, Old Miss can't spike it. By rule, you
Speaker 1: gotta have three or more when you're gonna wind the clock,
Speaker 1: and they'd have to run a play quickly snap it
Speaker 1: and then run the play. So that's what should have
Speaker 1: happened there in the fourth down play. Look time expires,
Speaker 1: I think you gotta just immediately stop the game, even
Speaker 1: if you think he's short. Stop the game, because what
Speaker 1: do we have now about this situation? What do we
Speaker 1: what do we have questions. Nobody knows what what ifs questions?
Speaker 1: If you follow those mechanics, then look, we reviewed it.
Speaker 1: There wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. It was handled correctly.
Speaker 1: Even the fourth down play. We looked at it. It
Speaker 1: wasn't clear and obvious or we confirmed it and we're done.
Speaker 1: So we don't have these questions. We don't have the
Speaker 1: d from all miss making these statements asking for an explanation.
Speaker 1: That's the goal you want to you want to put
Speaker 1: it to bed during the game and mechanically, and we've
Speaker 1: taught that at both the NFL and the college football
Speaker 1: level UM and so that that's what should have happened.
Speaker 1: Did they get it right in the end though, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a great question, and and you know I have
Speaker 1: seen since since the game on on Saturday. I have
Speaker 1: seen some angles and I do think at least at
Speaker 1: the very least, they would not have been able to
Speaker 1: overturn the third down play. I do think the official
Speaker 1: got it right. There was never a look down the line,
Speaker 1: at least I haven't seen one. But it does look
Speaker 1: like when the receiver, remember he controls the past, and
Speaker 1: he may control the past in the end zone, but
Speaker 1: he's not contacted by a defender, so there's no forward progress.
Speaker 1: He's coming back on his own. So the spot is
Speaker 1: gonna be where the ball is when he's down. So
Speaker 1: when his knee hits shin, whatever body part that put
Speaker 1: him down, where's the ball in relation to the goal line,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the spot. And it looked like that
Speaker 1: spot was in the field of play, but that we
Speaker 1: have never seen a definitive angle. I do think they
Speaker 1: got it right. The fourth down play, we did see
Speaker 1: a goal line shot. It did look short. But again,
Speaker 1: you can't leave those type of questions out there right
Speaker 1: If you follow the mechanics, then I think I think
Speaker 1: everybody would feel a little bit better about what took
Speaker 1: place because right now, obviously Old Miss is looking for
Speaker 1: an explanation and UH, and I would imagine the Pact
Speaker 1: twelve is going to have to is gonna have to,
Speaker 1: you know, either make a statement or communicate internally with
Speaker 1: Old Miss and UH and clean it up that way.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, then, Dean. So you
Speaker 1: see now on on Monday night football, you have the
Speaker 1: down the line shot on the on the on the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Do you see it. Ever, going to
Speaker 1: the having cameras on pylons at the goal line and
Speaker 1: also on the line of scrimmage in first down line. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the networks are doing that.
Speaker 1: They have pylon cam um. Typically when you have a
Speaker 1: goal to go situation, you would hope that the cart
Speaker 1: is gonna be all Sometimes you gonna have cars because
Speaker 1: they're not room in college exactly exactly, so each production
Speaker 1: is different. That's why the concept of fixed cameras is
Speaker 1: so interesting because you don't have to worry about what
Speaker 1: what camera package the broadcast network is using. You already
Speaker 1: have the boundary lines lines covered, and I think that's
Speaker 1: something that's certainly um the NFL has looked at. But
Speaker 1: with college football, you know, you've got different conferences, you've
Speaker 1: got different levels, you've got different different resources. Uh So
Speaker 1: I think it's something that we may see at the
Speaker 1: Division one level or even or even uh you know,
Speaker 1: the bigger conferences. But it's definitely an interesting concept and
Speaker 1: something that we need to continue to explore in both
Speaker 1: college and in the NFL. Let's go to our head
Speaker 1: scratcher call of the week. We still don't have a sponsor.
Speaker 1: We're hoping Marie steps up, Travis, your hair looks I mean,
Speaker 1: I did my hair like phenomenal, immaculate your hair two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. And and the shine shower you can shampoo.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Murray's is right there. We just did a Murray.
Speaker 1: We're in okay, Michigan, Wisconsin. All right, this is a big,
Speaker 1: big matchup. This is this is not just big ten.
Speaker 1: This this is college football playoff implications versus thirteen in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Early on, UM Wisconsin has the ball second down shape
Speaker 1: Patterson looks like a completed past to Ronnie Belt, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a first down, big game, diving catch. Michigan's
Speaker 1: moving the ball. It was only seven nothing at the time,
Speaker 1: I believe, and goes to review and it's overturned incomplete.
Speaker 1: The replay official rule that the ball hit the ground
Speaker 1: and and came loose. UM Michigan then doesn't convert on
Speaker 1: third down. Wisconsin gets the ball and scores on the
Speaker 1: next possession. So we go from seven nothing, potentially Michigan
Speaker 1: driving to tie the game or even kick a field though,
Speaker 1: to down fourteen nothing. Looked at the play, we weren't
Speaker 1: on the game. Mike Pereira our colleague at Fox Sports
Speaker 1: was on the game. Mike agreed that was not an
Speaker 1: incomplete pass. I mean, Paterson looked like he had his
Speaker 1: hands on the ball the entire time the ball. Maybe
Speaker 1: there was some slight movement, but there was never anything
Speaker 1: that looked like loss of control. The ruling on the
Speaker 1: field was a catch, certainly wasn't clear and obvious. I
Speaker 1: would have overturned into a catch if the ruling on
Speaker 1: the field was incomplete and it was hands on the ball,
Speaker 1: no loss of control, maintained control and and so it
Speaker 1: was a big at the time. Look, the game ended
Speaker 1: up out of reach, I think it was, but at
Speaker 1: the time, that's a big momentum change because again Wisconsin
Speaker 1: gets the ball and Jonathan Jonathan Taylor goes for like
Speaker 1: a seventy five yard touchdown run and and pretty much
Speaker 1: at that point Michigan was was deflated. And it was
Speaker 1: a big momentum swing in the game. And so that's
Speaker 1: our head scratcher. Nice Travis Night. There you go. So
Speaker 1: that's that's college football. And I do now, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to take some time. You know, it
Speaker 1: takes a big man to admit when he's when he's
Speaker 1: done something wrong, and and I am I can admit
Speaker 1: when I stepped over the line. And and Travis, you
Speaker 1: know our first episode we talked about you being from Wyoming.
Speaker 1: I think I made a comment about, um, you know,
Speaker 1: you being very white. You know, I think I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, bottom line is Travis is I mean,
Speaker 1: he's pretty, he's pretty white, like he's he's Portland's is
Speaker 1: my favorite city? White? Right, Like that's Travis, I like exactly,
Speaker 1: And so I made I made it. I poked a
Speaker 1: little fun at Wyoming and Travis then like in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: came up to me and we had a little conversation. Travis,
Speaker 1: won't you share share listeners? What? Um? What we talked about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So all right, buddies in my mom and my dad
Speaker 1: listened to the show and they're like, yeah, we love
Speaker 1: the show, Dean, but why why so much hate for Wyoming?
Speaker 1: My mom. My mom was like I can't believe this.
Speaker 1: And I told her I was going to tell you,
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, no, don't tell Dean. And she's
Speaker 1: like like terrified me. I didn't. I honestly didn't mean
Speaker 1: to offend anybody. I didn't mean to offend the fifteen
Speaker 1: people from my own that watched the show or listened
Speaker 1: to the show. We did. I guess we did get
Speaker 1: into um, you know, buying a town in Wyoming. I
Speaker 1: guess and we did. There was a town in Wyoming
Speaker 1: that was for saying a few years back there was
Speaker 1: a town called Aladdin, Wyoming with fifteen population and it
Speaker 1: was for sale at one point for one point five million.
Speaker 1: It ended up going coming off the market and then
Speaker 1: being sold for about four reduction. To say, it was
Speaker 1: on the MLS for for a while. It got the
Speaker 1: listing got stale and it's like you know what the
Speaker 1: broker was like, I need I need a re action
Speaker 1: in price. They brought it down. They did sell it
Speaker 1: though they did. Do you get everything? And that? What
Speaker 1: do you get? Like if I buy a Laddin, Wyoming?
Speaker 1: What do I get? Like? Do I have general store,
Speaker 1: the post office? I get the like are the people
Speaker 1: like a part of that deal? Like I can't imagine?
Speaker 1: Do I know he bought us exactly know, But you
Speaker 1: guys are working on you. You're in low wages. But
Speaker 1: do you I imagine if I buy the town, I
Speaker 1: become like like Brad Wesley in Roadhouse, Wow, like he
Speaker 1: he owned that town. He did, he did whatever the
Speaker 1: f he pleased, like Bred until until who came to town? Dalton?
Speaker 1: Until Dalton came to town five six five six fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: But he was a badass he came to town. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the bar in in Roadhouse double Due. When you went
Speaker 1: into the will do before Dalton got there? Who when
Speaker 1: does that ever happen? Like? When when do you go
Speaker 1: in and there's legit like people dying fights like I've
Speaker 1: seen obviously We've been in our share of bar fights,
Speaker 1: but this is like you go in there and every
Speaker 1: three seconds there's like mayhem, like mayhem, and Dalton comes
Speaker 1: in cleans it up. But bred Wesley owned that town
Speaker 1: like he did whatever he wanted. They drove the monster
Speaker 1: truck like through the car dealership. They burned the one
Speaker 1: guys that the store down, drove helicopters around, come around. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's if I buy a Laddin Wyoming,
Speaker 1: I wanna be Bread. Yes, right, you're gonna If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna name, oh absolutely, it's gonna be Dino Wyoming. Boom,
Speaker 1: there you go. So I do want to apologize to
Speaker 1: the people of Wyoming, anybody that that I offended. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I actually said, like, I want to go to Wyoming.
Speaker 1: I hear Jackson Hole is beautiful, and I definitely want to.
Speaker 1: I wanna all all those people came back for the
Speaker 1: second episode. Course of course they did. They love us,
Speaker 1: we love them, we love them, and we're always gonna talk.
Speaker 1: We're always gonna talk about ming during the show, but
Speaker 1: we are also going to talk. I got a new
Speaker 1: Joe came up with kind of a new segment idea
Speaker 1: and more. I think we're gonna call this inside the
Speaker 1: Brain of Blandino, and I'll set it up. So what
Speaker 1: I do is I used to do stand up comedy
Speaker 1: in New York for a long time, and I still
Speaker 1: right and I like to you know, I like that
Speaker 1: whole creative side. And what I'll do in my phone
Speaker 1: is if something funny happens, or I get a thought
Speaker 1: or something creative, I'll put it in my phone in
Speaker 1: my notes. And they're random thoughts, Okay, it's not like all.
Speaker 1: It's just like placeholders that will trigger my memory and
Speaker 1: then I can write it out sentence fragments exactly. And
Speaker 1: so I did this, and I had a notepad for
Speaker 1: ideas for the podcast and some of my random thoughts,
Speaker 1: and I sent it to Joe and it has become
Speaker 1: like one of his favorite pastimes. Now. I just love
Speaker 1: reading these things, all right. So Joe is just going
Speaker 1: to scroll through the notepad real quick, and we're just
Speaker 1: gonna land on one and he's gonna read out loud
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna elaborate. So there's no setup. It's
Speaker 1: off the cuff, all right, We're said the brain and Blandino.
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling, scrolling, and I'm gonna stop right here. What
Speaker 1: Koalas have chlamydia? And you said, how do you know
Speaker 1: how to spell it? Exactly? I'm glad I misspelled it alright,
Speaker 1: So okay, let me think about that. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So Koalas have lamidia. So I read this thing. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it came up, but I read this
Speaker 1: thing that literally like the Koala community, like the Koala population,
Speaker 1: like of Koala bears have chlamydia. Like it's insane, like
Speaker 1: is it? Like? So I had this whole bit like
Speaker 1: I was gonna write about like they're swingers and like
Speaker 1: the Koala community and it's insane, like look it up.
Speaker 1: You can google it Travis that that legit mentally some
Speaker 1: ridiculous percentage of Kuala bears have chlamydia. And I just
Speaker 1: found that like what like the qualis of like freaks,
Speaker 1: Like like what is going on in this community that
Speaker 1: they all have they all have the clapp Like what
Speaker 1: speaking of clapping? We just put that to bed the NFL.
Speaker 1: But like it's insane, Like who would have thought if
Speaker 1: I was saying, pick pick an animal, pick one animal
Speaker 1: in the animal Kingdom, that you think it has the
Speaker 1: highest percentage of clamydia? Oh my gosh, are you picking
Speaker 1: Koala bears? I'm gonna look at Koala is different? Now?
Speaker 1: Read books to my daughter and Cuddley and they're just
Speaker 1: get away from that, get away from night right, go
Speaker 1: to the zoo? Is not doing that? Right? That? Not
Speaker 1: you after dark? Is? Hey? I think my segment is
Speaker 1: a hit already. All right, So so we'll do that
Speaker 1: each week. That will be a lot of fun. Um.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's go to our rule clarification of the week.
Speaker 1: And this comes from I was on the Rich Eyes
Speaker 1: and Show Friday. We're talking about the Thursday Night Game.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the podcast. He loves it. He
Speaker 1: wants to come on be a guest future shows. He uh,
Speaker 1: he brought up. We talked about life rules right, and
Speaker 1: we talked about how we were going to break down
Speaker 1: life rules and come up with rulings. He brought up,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it on the show. Here's the setup.
Speaker 1: You're on a plane, middle seat, three across, middle seat.
Speaker 1: Does middle seat get DIBs on both armors? Go? I say,
Speaker 1: just because I never get the middle seat, I say yes,
Speaker 1: But I don't think people follow that because you've been
Speaker 1: on the outside, in the aisle or in the window.
Speaker 1: And to me, look, you'll take it. You you're all
Speaker 1: in coach right if you're doing three across, so you've
Speaker 1: all you're all equal, you've all paid. Nobody has paid extra, nobody.
Speaker 1: So the middle seat. Look, the aisle you have the
Speaker 1: advantage of, you can get up, you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about. You can get to the overhead, you can
Speaker 1: lean into the aisle, you have some room. The window
Speaker 1: you have the advantage of you can look out the window,
Speaker 1: don't see how beautiful it is. And you can lean
Speaker 1: against right, so you have full on those areas are yours.
Speaker 1: The middle seat, you've got nothing, You're you're like stuck
Speaker 1: in the middle. You to me, you should get DIBs
Speaker 1: on both arm rests. Now, what what Rich and his
Speaker 1: guys were saying is it's first come, first surf. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it turns into a strategy battle. My last flight,
Speaker 1: the guy in the middle thought that that was the case,
Speaker 1: and I had to strategically wait for my moment to read. Well,
Speaker 1: they said first come, first serve, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: what if you get up? And he said, no, that
Speaker 1: if they If you get up, now it's up for
Speaker 1: grabs and you can reclaim the lost armrest. I waited
Speaker 1: for this guy to kind of move forward and slid right,
Speaker 1: and you slip right in. What if somebody is it
Speaker 1: legal to like take the armrests and like put something
Speaker 1: on it, like get down and let's say saving seats
Speaker 1: in a moving exactly like I put my cell phone
Speaker 1: on the arm rest or something. Is that legal? No? No,
Speaker 1: you're no saving it, I think, but we do have
Speaker 1: to come up with I feel like, okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like the right of first refusal should go to the
Speaker 1: middle seat, and then if the middle seat relinquishes, then
Speaker 1: it should be first come, first serve. If I don't
Speaker 1: sit down and immediately take and and maintain continuous control
Speaker 1: just like a catch. If I don't maintain continuous control
Speaker 1: during the flight and I get up or I give
Speaker 1: up that arm rest, then it becomes first come, first served,
Speaker 1: then you can move in. But I think initially, right
Speaker 1: a first refusal is the middle seat right there? We
Speaker 1: agree on that. Can we agree on that? We only
Speaker 1: need to agree on it, all right, So that's the
Speaker 1: rule everyone, For all of you guys who like that
Speaker 1: middle seat, guys and girls who like that middle seat,
Speaker 1: just get those goods podcasts and let them know these
Speaker 1: are the rules. Do you think there are people out there?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Do you think there are people out there
Speaker 1: who choose the middle seat? No? No, no, that's the worst,
Speaker 1: you know, especially wends now and when we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the whole trading thing and seed equity.
Speaker 1: But we'll get into that. You don't trade a middle
Speaker 1: You don't sit in the middle seat and go, oh,
Speaker 1: can I sit next to you? But well, that's that's
Speaker 1: another that's another show. So we've got our rules. Change
Speaker 1: our first rule its ratified. We're gonna take a break
Speaker 1: when we come back. College football NFL analysts, man of
Speaker 1: the people, Serious radio host Mr Brady all Right, I'm
Speaker 1: excited about our guests today because usually usually he's the
Speaker 1: one asking me questions on his serious radio show about NFL,
Speaker 1: but today I get to ask him questions. This guy,
Speaker 1: he he was college football star, played in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Current analysts for Fox Sports, Serious Radio, he's a man
Speaker 1: of the people, Mr Brady Quinn, what's up, Brady? Mucho Blandino,
Speaker 1: which I guess is that the nickname that old Jimmy
Speaker 1: Brando gave you. I mean, I guess, but that's an
Speaker 1: old nickname. I mean that goes back I had. You
Speaker 1: know how my my football coaches, baseball coaches, everybody used
Speaker 1: to call me Dino Blandino. My my second grade teacher,
Speaker 1: I think she started it. She she loved how my
Speaker 1: name flowed, and she used to actually sing my name
Speaker 1: in class and so no, no, no, Dean, it's just Dean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but obviously everybody kind of went Dino. And then my
Speaker 1: middle name. My middle name is actually if you want
Speaker 1: to get any more Italian than this, so it's actually
Speaker 1: the name of an Italian sparkling water. I'll let you
Speaker 1: guess that it's usually on restaurant tables. Well, Trisca, not Tuscanna.
Speaker 1: It's Pellegrino, that's it. So it's actually Dino Pellegrino Blendino. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's my grandfather's first name. Yep. That's amazing. Unfortunately you
Speaker 1: don't have the water right. I know, if I wish,
Speaker 1: I wish I was the heir to the Pellegrino water throne,
Speaker 1: but I'm not, you know, so exactly exactly, So what
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you a little bit about. Um. So,
Speaker 1: obviously you played in Notre Dame. You had a lot
Speaker 1: of success there, you know, just just looking at your background,
Speaker 1: tied for the most wins as a quarterback in Notre
Speaker 1: Dame history. Maxwell Award Best College Player two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: go to the NFL, had a good career, didn't enjoy
Speaker 1: the same success as you had it Notre Dame. But
Speaker 1: you know, looking back, I think there were some some
Speaker 1: injuries two thousand, two thousand eight, you named the starter,
Speaker 1: broke your anger out for the rest of the year
Speaker 1: two thousand nine through four touchdowns against the Lions, won
Speaker 1: a couple of games in in a row. Foot injury
Speaker 1: out for the year, and then kind of bounced around
Speaker 1: as a backup and uh and retired in two thousand fifteen.
Speaker 1: What was for you the biggest difference in going from
Speaker 1: the college game to the pro game? What was the
Speaker 1: biggest and the hardest transition for you? I think from
Speaker 1: for me personally, it was the injuries that you, like
Speaker 1: you discussed, because I form my true freshman year to
Speaker 1: my senior year had a relatively clean bill hel um.
Speaker 1: I had suffered a concussion, but it happened. I guess
Speaker 1: we think in my sophomore we think it happ in
Speaker 1: the first half, and so I played the second half
Speaker 1: and then literally to this day don't remember anything that's
Speaker 1: half of that game. UM, But played the following week.
Speaker 1: You know, I've passed concussion protocol and all that, UM,
Speaker 1: and then played the following week. And then really outside
Speaker 1: of my seen you hear our Bowl game in the LSU,
Speaker 1: I tore my PCL in the first quarter, but put
Speaker 1: a brace on kind of thought through that to get
Speaker 1: through the game. That was it. And so once I
Speaker 1: got into the NFL, when I when I I broke,
Speaker 1: I broke my right index finger my falling hand. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it's anything significant, but it greatly
Speaker 1: impacts you know, you your ability to throw the football
Speaker 1: if it's you're you're right in next finger or thumb.
Speaker 1: And then you mentioned the foot injury, which really plagued
Speaker 1: me the rest of my career. I stually got in surgery.
Speaker 1: Then with Cleveland, I didn't they traded me. And then
Speaker 1: at that point once I got traded, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it was tough because I really didn't get like an opportunity,
Speaker 1: at least not like a legitimate one. You know. In
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve with Kansas City, Uh, they kind of
Speaker 1: threw me the keys after mat Castle. It got hurt.
Speaker 1: I want to say, versus Baltimore week five or six,
Speaker 1: and uh I finished the game, you know, drove us down.
Speaker 1: We actually ended up. It's funnily because you are talking
Speaker 1: before we came on about pick plays. We got called
Speaker 1: for one, and the irony to it is it wasn't
Speaker 1: even a pick play, um, but the and and Dextermer
Speaker 1: Cluster got blown up by the cornerback on the outside.
Speaker 1: It was covering Dwayne Bow and so we ended up.
Speaker 1: I threw a pass a little under round Dwayne Bow.
Speaker 1: He takes into the house. They called by proference the
Speaker 1: p I woul kick a field goal, end up losing
Speaker 1: the game, but but it was enough to kind of,
Speaker 1: I guess sparked him to give me an opportunity for
Speaker 1: a couple of games, had another concussion like the following week.
Speaker 1: So injuries are are one of the things that stood
Speaker 1: out because it just I couldn't really get into a
Speaker 1: rhythm or flow, you know, every time things started to
Speaker 1: look like I was gonna get an opportunity, injuries played
Speaker 1: a factor. Um, you know, lack of continuity. There's just
Speaker 1: there's no there's no really time for development any more.
Speaker 1: Its quarterbacks, um. And so for me, what was difficult
Speaker 1: was so many different offensive systems that I went through
Speaker 1: and so you know, I probably felt most comfortable my
Speaker 1: second year in the league because I had two full
Speaker 1: years to really learn that system for Radinsky, and that
Speaker 1: was it. Every you know, every point moving on after that,
Speaker 1: there's always changes to what I was doing the rest
Speaker 1: of my career until year eight. So um, that was
Speaker 1: part of I mean, look, I didn't play as well
Speaker 1: as I obviously needed to. But I think some of
Speaker 1: that too is you know, I'm the type that needed
Speaker 1: a little bit more time, there needed more reps and
Speaker 1: I really never got that many reps as compared to
Speaker 1: being able to start and play the true freshman. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and talking about that, talking about guys going from
Speaker 1: college the NFL. You had you had the game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Cardinals, And so we're watching a
Speaker 1: guy first overall pick Kyler Murray new system, a college
Speaker 1: style system. And then obviously Kyle Allen has an unbelievable game,
Speaker 1: throws four touchdowns. What what do you think? What do
Speaker 1: you think Kylie chances of being successful in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And then talk a little bit about you know, do
Speaker 1: you think a college style system like the air raid
Speaker 1: can have sustained success in the pro game? Um, I
Speaker 1: think elements of it can. I think we've we've seen
Speaker 1: with the women in roster size how that up tempo
Speaker 1: can impact the defense over time. And candidly speaking with UM,
Speaker 1: you know a couple of people within the organization, I
Speaker 1: think that's a concern for later on this year. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not right now. UM. And actually the weird thing was, UM,
Speaker 1: in that game, they had more plays, they'd run more
Speaker 1: offensive plays, and they had more time of possession versus
Speaker 1: the Troy Lions, and they still are excusing the versus
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, and they still end up losing um.
Speaker 1: But but I gave you a little lotside it. I
Speaker 1: think it's difficulty with answering the question about Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is Arizona is his best shot because he was drafted
Speaker 1: specifically by an organization that has the head coach that
Speaker 1: like that loves all of his skill sets and it's
Speaker 1: going to run a system that is conducive to that.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't work out with Cliff Kingsbury in Arizona.
Speaker 1: For Cali Murray, there's there's two issues I think for
Speaker 1: him moving forward, whoever either becomes the next head coach
Speaker 1: there if it doesn't work out, or if he was
Speaker 1: to move on somewhere else, they have to buy all in,
Speaker 1: Like you've got to have him in shotgun a bunch.
Speaker 1: You've gotta, you know, allow him to be in a
Speaker 1: system that is tailored to his skill set, strength, and
Speaker 1: one that he's you know as as running college. That's
Speaker 1: why you know it's different for him because it's kind
Speaker 1: of like Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannell got drafted the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and Mike Sherman was offensive coordinator. That was who his
Speaker 1: offense supporter was in Texas a s for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, so he knew that system from day one.
Speaker 1: And I think the difficulty was we saw some of
Speaker 1: his best football in Miami early on, thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just the beginning, and really it kind of
Speaker 1: ended up being a little bit of his feeling um
Speaker 1: for Kyler. I think that's some of the difficulty is
Speaker 1: if he has to change systems and go to a
Speaker 1: different team, you know, four or five years down the road,
Speaker 1: he could be or in six years down the road
Speaker 1: he could be like you know, having having to deal
Speaker 1: with a learning curve, a significant learning curve, but there's
Speaker 1: gonna be more on his play in a different system
Speaker 1: and learning different burbage. And then there's also you know, baseball,
Speaker 1: like if this doesn't work out, what part of him
Speaker 1: would do it? I'm just gonna get a baseball. That's
Speaker 1: a good point because obviously he you know, drafted in
Speaker 1: the first round Oakland and and so he has that
Speaker 1: in his background, and he can certainly if it doesn't
Speaker 1: work out. But it's an interesting point about having that
Speaker 1: having that system and have everything built for him versus
Speaker 1: having to go somewhere and fit into something that's already
Speaker 1: been been established and talking with them, it was interesting
Speaker 1: because he said, like he knows that offense as well
Speaker 1: as pretty much Cliffs Kingsbury, and he kind of made
Speaker 1: a comment like Cliff needs to figure out on the
Speaker 1: play calling almost in regards like he needs to figure
Speaker 1: me out as a quarterback. Like he's very confident ability
Speaker 1: and and and what he's being asked to do in
Speaker 1: this system so much so you can see at times
Speaker 1: in the game there's an interception through trying to hit
Speaker 1: the show over the same and he was rustrated because
Speaker 1: you wanted to sooner he must down the same thing
Speaker 1: he wanted to turn out he turned in. Um, David Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know there's another example of that too, where kind
Speaker 1: of miscommunication with him in one of the routes and
Speaker 1: you can just see him getting frustrated, and I think
Speaker 1: that's not going to bode well for a busy board
Speaker 1: his teammates, Um, you know, kind of showing them up,
Speaker 1: showing that frustration, I'm sure, and that body language, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's kind of I used to hear that about some
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the body language and how they how
Speaker 1: they reacted with teammates, and and that never goes over
Speaker 1: well the uh so let's talk. Let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about past interference and obviously you know you and
Speaker 1: I've talked about it. What are your what are your
Speaker 1: first impressions of the rule? What do you think going
Speaker 1: forward in terms of past inference being being reviewable and
Speaker 1: uh and where the NFL is right now? With that,
Speaker 1: everybody has the same reaction when I asked that question
Speaker 1: that like, no, let me tell you, it's a microcosm
Speaker 1: of society. Okay, Like this is what happens getting deep
Speaker 1: now right now. So there's like five cent right, like
Speaker 1: if you know the build bell curve, remember math class, right, Belker,
Speaker 1: And you've got like five at each end of it, right,
Speaker 1: and you've got the other of us or somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle of this spell curve. And the play that
Speaker 1: really forced this rule this you know, offensive and defensive
Speaker 1: past interference ability of challenge and review. It was so
Speaker 1: egregious and so bad that we now implemented a rule
Speaker 1: that's being applied to a bunch of other plays where
Speaker 1: it's not really necessary in my opinion, And I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of the case in society, like we create
Speaker 1: laws or have these like reactions to things the five
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, that happens like one or two percent
Speaker 1: of the time, Like you can't stop crazy, you can't
Speaker 1: stop like these, you know, ridiculous things that happen, and
Speaker 1: and but you try to create the walls about them,
Speaker 1: and then everyone else out there is just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now we've got to deal with this. And it's really
Speaker 1: not something that um, you know, had affected my lifestyle
Speaker 1: before or was something that uh, you know I did anyway,
Speaker 1: But what we implement a wall or do something for,
Speaker 1: like it's just a microcosmics decide it's an overreaction to
Speaker 1: it egregious probably once in a decade type miscall. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: I mean that maybe you disagree with that. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I've seen anything that bad that was myth
Speaker 1: and uh and I just I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: to me, that's that's where this kind of makes sense,
Speaker 1: Like like this is just where we are in our society.
Speaker 1: We're very reactive instead of proactive, and sometimes that could
Speaker 1: be a bad thing, and I I think in this
Speaker 1: case that it kind of is. And I'll just halted
Speaker 1: by saying this. I feel like if the NFL it
Speaker 1: wasn't so egotistical at the time about some of the rules,
Speaker 1: and they looked at how the college has implemented the
Speaker 1: review process for player safety, and it would have cleared
Speaker 1: up that call, and it would clear up probably some
Speaker 1: other calls to UM that would fall into that category.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately they don't want to go that route. So
Speaker 1: UM it's or or at this point you said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go that route. So it's a little
Speaker 1: bit disheartening, but it's just something you have to deal with. Now.
Speaker 1: I think that's a player coach, and then obviously it
Speaker 1: is as an analyst of people in our our field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't I couldn't agree with you more. I
Speaker 1: think when you talk about I mean one case you
Speaker 1: pass a law for for one case, and that you
Speaker 1: end up with bad laws. And if you if you
Speaker 1: pass a rule for one play, I think I think
Speaker 1: you end up with bad rules. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what we're seeing because obviously you're trying to fix the
Speaker 1: Saints Rams play from last year and now look at
Speaker 1: the look at the place. How how many Saints Rams
Speaker 1: plays have we fixed? With this rule, and there hasn't
Speaker 1: been any and and now we're into this minutia of
Speaker 1: what is past deference. And I know you were, you know,
Speaker 1: you were in Arizona on Sunday. But there was a
Speaker 1: play in the Eagles Lions game on Sunday where you know,
Speaker 1: the kick returner Sanders, I mean, he gets his helmet
Speaker 1: ripped off, face mask, big time, no call, and you
Speaker 1: can't do anything about that in replay. But then Patricia challenges,
Speaker 1: you know, a fifty fifty ball into double coverage, hoping
Speaker 1: for a p I and and and then we sit
Speaker 1: there for two minutes and we end up with calling
Speaker 1: the field stands. And I don't think that was the
Speaker 1: intent of of the rule. And so you know, and
Speaker 1: I agree with you about society too. I think that's
Speaker 1: where you know, we go, we kind of go sideways
Speaker 1: with that stuff. So so case in point that, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, because that was the first
Speaker 1: player that I saw. And watching some of the highlighting
Speaker 1: things and you see it on social media, um as
Speaker 1: much as about the sus point and keep you still
Speaker 1: to see things that stand out, uh, And that in
Speaker 1: that particular clip stood out as far as a bad
Speaker 1: miss call. But you know, again, unless we just want
Speaker 1: to open everything up to be reviewable, right and we
Speaker 1: want to make specific demands or have specific demands when
Speaker 1: the head coaches, which you know, may slow down the game.
Speaker 1: Maybe not more so than all these holding penalties called,
Speaker 1: even though this past week and they weren't any calls. Um.
Speaker 1: But again, players safety, Like that's an instance where obviously
Speaker 1: if you're you know, there's a face masks a personal file,
Speaker 1: you're ripping it off the guy's head, you know, that's
Speaker 1: an element where it would be reviewable. And and and
Speaker 1: again it falls under that maybe it's a catch all
Speaker 1: in a way. But at the same time, like we're
Speaker 1: trying to make the game safer, we typically see rules
Speaker 1: change for player's safety. It just makes more sense to
Speaker 1: me to be able to have the replay officials review
Speaker 1: things for players safety when there's been a foul committed. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe even more so than giving the coaches the opportunity
Speaker 1: to challenge it. Or maybe that's your that that that's
Speaker 1: kind of your fall back because you have the coaches
Speaker 1: the ability to challenge it if it need the replay
Speaker 1: officials don't see it. Yeah, similar to college and I
Speaker 1: think the colleges and I think it works with targeting
Speaker 1: and and and I like your comment just about the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I hope that there's more collaboration between the NFL
Speaker 1: and college as it pertains to rules, because I think
Speaker 1: there will be. Can I ask you this? So, so
Speaker 1: I'm coming down the elephators with these replay officials and
Speaker 1: you know, NFL again this past week, and I kind
Speaker 1: of looked at and said, man, you guys are really
Speaker 1: asked the hook now, huh honestly, you know, I know
Speaker 1: there's things that are still looking at the replay process,
Speaker 1: but it's my understanding that everything gets routed back to
Speaker 1: New York and so ultimately they've got help there too.
Speaker 1: And I was just kind of thinking to myself, what
Speaker 1: are these guys here for? Then, yeah, getting routed back
Speaker 1: down rip off? What are they there for? They're definitely
Speaker 1: not Yeah, they're They've definitely been marginalized in terms of
Speaker 1: the decision making. You know, I think the biggest thing
Speaker 1: that they still have to do is in that two
Speaker 1: minute window, especially in a hurry up where you know,
Speaker 1: the offenses is trying to conserve time. They've got to
Speaker 1: be the ones to stop the game to at least
Speaker 1: initiate a review. So I still think they have an
Speaker 1: important role. Um but again, once the game has stopped,
Speaker 1: they can they can pretty much They're out of it
Speaker 1: in terms of decision making. New York gets involved exactly,
Speaker 1: and then they do they do. I was telling somebody
Speaker 1: the story we've had. You know, I was with the
Speaker 1: NFL for a long time and the stories I can
Speaker 1: tell you about replay officials, but one, you know, we've
Speaker 1: had replay officials go down in the second half because
Speaker 1: of a bad hot dog at halftime. You know, they
Speaker 1: just they just couldn't continue. You know, we had to
Speaker 1: like next man up and and you you've been in
Speaker 1: those press boxes, you know what some of that food
Speaker 1: he is like the past week we had this guy
Speaker 1: a tremendous mustash. I mean, I'm talking like Tom Sella,
Speaker 1: that oh nice, which is kind of what drew me to.
Speaker 1: I think even looked at like what is because said
Speaker 1: like NFL something sad like sitting in the elevator waiting
Speaker 1: for people to get on, and I say replay official
Speaker 1: and that's I just slug up the conversation like man,
Speaker 1: you guys kind of got it easy. Yeah, if he
Speaker 1: kind of starts talking to me, he had food that perfect? Perfect?
Speaker 1: How easy is this guy's job? Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're getting paid or how that works, but sign
Speaker 1: me up once I hit sixties. Just chilling the hot dog,
Speaker 1: you know, and there's a popcorn from time to time,
Speaker 1: just different colored stains on the shirt each week. It's great.
Speaker 1: I love it. All. Right, let's go, let's talk a
Speaker 1: little college football. Obviously, I know you know Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: You're a Notre Dame guy. Tough loss against Georgia, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you just about Look, Brian Kelly, there
Speaker 1: are three and seven against top ten teams. You know,
Speaker 1: they haven't beaten the top five teams since two thousand five,
Speaker 1: not and that's look their top five teams or top
Speaker 1: ten teams for a reason. They're the best teams. Who
Speaker 1: was that two thousand It was Michigan? So it was
Speaker 1: where was that it was that that game in Michigan?
Speaker 1: I think they were number three. I think it was
Speaker 1: in Michigan, And I think that was that that was
Speaker 1: their last was there? Reason was? Who is that coach?
Speaker 1: Then you're are you? You tell me you you were
Speaker 1: probably there? Yeah? Man, we went on the road to
Speaker 1: beat Michigan. That Charlie, you were right, yeah, yeah. The
Speaker 1: last the last time we beat an SEC team on
Speaker 1: the road, we beat I believe tennesse SE's two four,
Speaker 1: they were number nine. We went other Knoxville beat him.
Speaker 1: But the common dominator between those two games is it
Speaker 1: wasn't a ton of offensive production because, to be quite honest,
Speaker 1: and much like we saw in this game, you know,
Speaker 1: secs got great defense, have tremendous athletes at a ton
Speaker 1: of team speed, and so how do you win? And well,
Speaker 1: the first thing is you've got to value every possession,
Speaker 1: and you've got to play the field position battle, and
Speaker 1: you can't turn the football over. And you know that
Speaker 1: the two interceptions from me in book, and I'm not
Speaker 1: like putting this on him by any means, but you
Speaker 1: know those are like the no nos that you just
Speaker 1: you can't expect to go into their house on the
Speaker 1: road versus one of the best teams in college football
Speaker 1: and turning to football over and win, oh, no question.
Speaker 1: And then like I said, these these are tough teams,
Speaker 1: are tough games. But there there does seem to be
Speaker 1: this perception. I don't if it goes back to the
Speaker 1: Clemson game last year. Whatever it is that where Notre
Speaker 1: Dame gets on the big stage, they kind of fall short.
Speaker 1: Do you right or wrong? Do you think that that's fair?
Speaker 1: And and do you think Brian Kelly can get this team,
Speaker 1: you know back to where you know, competing for the
Speaker 1: national title? You know in those games? What do you think? No?
Speaker 1: I I do, I really do. I think he's he's
Speaker 1: put them in a good position, right And I know,
Speaker 1: like you know, and and horseshoes when you're close accounts
Speaker 1: and get points. But and then that's not really the
Speaker 1: case here, like there's no moral victories. But you know,
Speaker 1: you put that that game on a neutral site, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a different outcome when you've got Georgia. It's
Speaker 1: a tough environment. You know, maybe it ends up a
Speaker 1: little different. I don't know, but um, he's got them
Speaker 1: to you know, the US Football Playoffs last year, a
Speaker 1: national championship just twelve And as far as you know,
Speaker 1: why things didn't work out, you know, the way I
Speaker 1: think a lot of Irish Frans has hoped. It's difficult.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we went to back to back BCS games,
Speaker 1: and I think in both of those BCS games. What
Speaker 1: was very apparent in watching film preparing for it is,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have as much team speed, We
Speaker 1: didn't have as much of that elite talent. And look
Speaker 1: at that two thousand and five Ohio State team that
Speaker 1: beat us in the cestival. I mean, look at my
Speaker 1: draft pick a team, um compared to how many we
Speaker 1: had for example. And you know, if you're gonna use
Speaker 1: that as like an indication, right, this is why I
Speaker 1: think nerd name is closer than people realize. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: play a little trivia. How many players since two thousand
Speaker 1: sixteen have been drafted from Georgia? I would think the
Speaker 1: number is probably, I don't know, fifteen, Okay, And how
Speaker 1: many of them do you think? We're first round picks? Half?
Speaker 1: Uh five? Not quite half? About one and four? So
Speaker 1: now same thing for Notre Dame. How many draft picks
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and sixteen Probably pretty close on
Speaker 1: my first round picks five five. So now great, you're
Speaker 1: talking different position groups, right, Like Notre Dame had a
Speaker 1: year where Quinn Nelson and Mike McGlynn both the top
Speaker 1: ten on the offensive line. Um, And that's where you know,
Speaker 1: you look at some of the you know tight ends
Speaker 1: and guys we've got draft in the first round, like
Speaker 1: a little different position um positions that are getting drafted.
Speaker 1: And so there's a couple of things. I should think
Speaker 1: Charlie Weise's system would be perfect for Notre Dame right now,
Speaker 1: and in particular because I booked a smart kid. He's
Speaker 1: a good decision maker. And your advantage when when you're
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame is you're not going to have as
Speaker 1: much speed, probably at least not collectively. Maybe the players
Speaker 1: here and there, um, but you've got to be able
Speaker 1: to outs game and and if talent isn't equated, you've
Speaker 1: got to be able to have scheme to make it close.
Speaker 1: And I just I look at what they do sometimes
Speaker 1: offensively in some of these more spread sets, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it plays at their advantage. I think you
Speaker 1: can't control the game as well like that versus teams
Speaker 1: that are more talented or faster than you. And it
Speaker 1: only takes a few things here they break open a
Speaker 1: big play or create negative plays on offense. So you know,
Speaker 1: having the you know, four tight end sets in they're
Speaker 1: being able to control their game by running the football
Speaker 1: and then having more plash and pass off of that.
Speaker 1: You know, it keeps Ian Brook from being in positions
Speaker 1: where you know, at the end of the game, you know,
Speaker 1: and then again he brought some of this on himself
Speaker 1: when he dropped back. Sometimes he's running out of the pocket,
Speaker 1: out of the back of the pocket, to the right
Speaker 1: or left, and that's what the defense wants you to do.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't want you to step up in
Speaker 1: the pocket where he's the most space in room, because
Speaker 1: once you run to the right or left, you cut
Speaker 1: the field in half, and so it's less for them
Speaker 1: to defend. And that's where that you know, for example,
Speaker 1: the flue flicker pick came in and then the final
Speaker 1: player they had on offense, you know, he just he
Speaker 1: ran so far back at that point, it's at the
Speaker 1: desperation to heaven. It's not even like you're playing. Um
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna to run a player you had
Speaker 1: had called initially it's just backyard football. Hell no, hope,
Speaker 1: someone a p I call so um. I just I
Speaker 1: think with the group that they've gotten on everything else,
Speaker 1: like that sort of system would be perfect for where
Speaker 1: they're at right now. And I know that's not you know,
Speaker 1: that's not what Chip Long wants to do. But and then,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, he I thought he called a
Speaker 1: great game, especially some of those players down around the
Speaker 1: goal line. Uh they balanced at Georgia called a time
Speaker 1: out wisely because they were they were they were, they
Speaker 1: were ready for the touchdown. I believe that that to
Speaker 1: our coal combat the original design was there. Do you
Speaker 1: know he didn't throw it. He ended up you know,
Speaker 1: finding them when he created afterwards. But I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a good football team. I think they could be eleven
Speaker 1: one and then go to a New Years six game. Um,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately, I mean I think with that loss, they
Speaker 1: just even as close as it was, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be with you in a collegetball playoffs. I
Speaker 1: would agree with you. I think they have to go.
Speaker 1: They'd have to go undefeated to get you know, with
Speaker 1: just you know, can anybody is is after Alabama and Clemson,
Speaker 1: who is it? Honestly, I think it's all you in Georgia.
Speaker 1: I mean just from watching them. And and that's not
Speaker 1: to disrespect Ohio State or Oklahoma, but Ohio State really
Speaker 1: hasn't played anyone. Oklahoma. You can make the same case
Speaker 1: and I'm still even though Ali Spinch is there and
Speaker 1: he's done a good a good job so far with
Speaker 1: their defense, I'm still hesitant to sit there and say
Speaker 1: like they could actually, you know, compete outside of just
Speaker 1: putting up a bunch of points in bowl games. And
Speaker 1: I know there's a stat out there about when the
Speaker 1: Big twelve plays the SEC, and you know, you look
Speaker 1: at how many points SEC the events are given up,
Speaker 1: and how many points is Big twelve teams are scoring
Speaker 1: and all that, but that factor is in a lot
Speaker 1: of those middle of the road Big twelve and SEC teams,
Speaker 1: not like the top end talent teams like if Oklahoma
Speaker 1: and Texas are gonna play l s U in Alabama
Speaker 1: and Georgia, um, you know ten times each out of masking,
Speaker 1: the SEC wins the bulk of those and you're probably
Speaker 1: winning by a decent margin, kind of like we already
Speaker 1: saw her the show tell us, Yeah, absolutely, it's not.
Speaker 1: That's not Arkansas and and you know some of the
Speaker 1: other mid to lower exactly exactly. All right, man, Hey,
Speaker 1: he's Brady Quinn. You can you can follow him on
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Speaker 1: him on Serious Radio. Enjoy having your man. Thanks, yeah, yeah, anytimes,
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Speaker 1: they didn't go for that. Well, then you have to
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