Speaker 1: So let's talk about Jay Shetty.
Speaker 2: I did not know who Jay Shetty was except that
Speaker 2: he was a guy on the Calm app. So I
Speaker 2: used to do this meditation app during the pandemic and
Speaker 2: one of the people on it.
Speaker 1: Was this guy, Jay Shetty. But I didn't know he
Speaker 1: was like a thing.
Speaker 2: He was like, hello, I'm Jay Shetty and we're going
Speaker 2: on a journey.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know.
Speaker 2: He's liked sleep and like it's very malifluous, and so
Speaker 2: I just would choose him sometimes because he would put
Speaker 2: me to sleep. And now he's in the midst of
Speaker 2: this scandal allegedly perpetuating a fraud that he's not exactly
Speaker 2: who he was who he said he was, his credentials
Speaker 2: aren't what he said they were, et cetera. So this
Speaker 2: has happened with these scandals with different people in sort
Speaker 2: of that wellness space. You know, I had Deepak show
Speaker 2: for on my podcast.
Speaker 1: I really liked him.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like he's had things said
Speaker 2: about him. A lot of these people who become these
Speaker 2: spiritual leaders or gurus. This gurus, it's such a non
Speaker 2: scientific term, like I could have a guru for frozen yogurt,
Speaker 2: Like this is my you know, frosting guru. It's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, I have a guru for buttons. I like
Speaker 2: vintage buttons. So anyway, he's like this guru, this life coach.
Speaker 2: Those areas can be challenging because I could go be
Speaker 2: a life coach and say I'm a life coach. And
Speaker 2: the thing is he has all of these credentials or
Speaker 2: background that aren't tracking. An ex girlfriend of his is
Speaker 2: saying it doesn't track. Apparently he says he has some
Speaker 2: a degree or something from some place that doesn't give
Speaker 2: that degree. And so you know it's remember Brian Roberts,
Speaker 2: who's a credible, accomplished journalist, and he went out not
Speaker 2: in a great way because whatever he had said was
Speaker 2: exaggerating or not letting the truth get in the way
Speaker 2: of a good story. So he got fired and it
Speaker 2: was a problem because he's a journalist.
Speaker 1: So this guy Jay.
Speaker 2: He has Kim Kardashian on his podcast, he marries Jennifer
Speaker 2: Lopez and Ben Affleck and now he's this guru based
Speaker 2: on all the things he's said, he's done, and now
Speaker 2: he's getting canceled because a lot of those things aren't true.
Speaker 1: So he's not telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Now, he's not a doctor that's operating on people or
Speaker 2: a surgeon that said he went to medical school. He's
Speaker 2: in this sort of life coach, spiritual bullshit space to
Speaker 2: begin with.
Speaker 1: So my thing is, if you go.
Speaker 2: Into a church and it makes you feel good every week, Yes,
Speaker 2: if they're stealing your money and not using it for
Speaker 2: things that they say they're going to use it for.
Speaker 1: Fine, But if you go in and Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2: And Donald Duck are the ones running the church and
Speaker 2: you walk out feeling good and you're buying whatever they're selling,
Speaker 2: does is that bad for you? Like, this is not
Speaker 2: bad that Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck thought he was
Speaker 2: somebody that he's not. They thought he was the Dali Lama,
Speaker 2: and you know he's just the Lama. I mean, because
Speaker 2: they got what they wanted. They had a great wedding.
Speaker 2: People knew this guy was a name. They enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: And you know it's happened in the past with financial advisors. Well,
Speaker 1: Bernie made off.
Speaker 2: That's different because that guy's losing people's money. But everybody
Speaker 2: loved bragging about knowing Bernie made off, and the people
Speaker 2: that cozy up to celebrities. Those are people that you
Speaker 2: should be aware of, Okay, These people that are like
Speaker 2: faux spiritual or like humble bragging. They're so obsessed with
Speaker 2: fame because they really want it for themselves and they
Speaker 2: want to be near it, so like to get in
Speaker 2: there and be marrying Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, or
Speaker 2: to be getting Tom Brady to invest with you, or
Speaker 2: to get people to go to Firefest that guy, or
Speaker 2: you know, to get people to want you to marry them,
Speaker 2: or they think you're their guru. Like there are red flags, okay,
Speaker 2: and celebrities are so susceptible to this because celebrities believe
Speaker 2: in all the bullshit, like you know, the vampire facials
Speaker 2: and you know the quick fixes and the five hundred
Speaker 2: dollars creams, et cetera. I know many celebrities you know
Speaker 2: from you know, when Portia and Ellen used to invite
Speaker 2: me to come stay in Santa Barbara, I didn't go,
Speaker 2: not because I didn't like por Chanel and I love,
Speaker 2: you know, hanging out with them. I just didn't want
Speaker 2: to get too close to the flame, meaning like I
Speaker 2: don't need to you know, I do business with her.
Speaker 2: I was doing a talk show with her, and like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a person who's really friends with celebrities. I
Speaker 2: mean I know them, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: Eric stone Street and I text or see it and
Speaker 2: I know each other, or I do hoe a show
Speaker 2: and we'll text her when something happens. But like, I
Speaker 2: don't need to be best friends with celebrities. I don't
Speaker 2: need to use celebrities as currency because it's just not
Speaker 2: who I am. And I'm not like peddling anything, you know,
Speaker 2: like via them. So if Jay Shetty has Ben and
Speaker 2: Jen get married with him, more people I guess are
Speaker 2: doing his podcast and it keeps raising his fame.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And he was in Jennifer Lopez's.
Speaker 3: New movie, wasn't he?
Speaker 2: So you know the thing though, is Jennifer Lopez and
Speaker 2: Ben are happily married, it seems, and they had a wedding,
Speaker 2: and I fell asleep to the app and other people
Speaker 2: went on his podcast and thought he was the Second Coming.
Speaker 2: And he's giving advice as a quote unquote post spiritual
Speaker 2: life coach. So you know, should we shouldn't believe half
Speaker 2: the bullshit that goes on with these people, because just
Speaker 2: get what you want out of it or don't, but
Speaker 2: you don't need to like invest in their credentials. He
Speaker 2: was a guy giving post spiritual advice, lulling me to sleep.
Speaker 2: He's got a podcast all these people waxing poetic about
Speaker 2: all that they know. They're just humans, They're just human beings.
Speaker 2: You know, if a doctor tells you about you know,
Speaker 2: your chromosomes, your cells or your blood like that, they
Speaker 2: need to have gone to the medical school that they
Speaker 2: say they went to or that they went to medical school.
Speaker 2: You know, if a business guy is taking your money,
Speaker 2: we'd like to know exactly what that person's.
Speaker 3: Doing with it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, for people who don't always know
Speaker 2: what the person's doing with it, because that's hard too.
Speaker 2: You know, when I first made money, I went to
Speaker 2: the nerdy, dorky guy that someone that I knew who
Speaker 2: was very conservative and not flashy, cashy, that she had
Speaker 2: given her money to. She used to be the head
Speaker 2: of Bravo. And I'd made all this money and it was,
Speaker 2: you know, effectively sitting in a suitcase under my bed
Speaker 2: because I didn't know what to.
Speaker 3: Do with it.
Speaker 2: And I called someone who I thought was like sort
Speaker 2: of like conservative and not flashy and not showy and
Speaker 2: not braggy, and just like I could still get robbed.
Speaker 2: But I asked her for her opinion of someone who
Speaker 2: was very conservative, and I could kind of drive the program.
Speaker 2: But it was at a bank that was reputable, wasn't
Speaker 2: some bullshit like guy who's you know, taken people to
Speaker 2: his house in montak and the Hamptons and like hobnobbing
Speaker 2: with the owner of the mets.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I've rolled.
Speaker 2: And I just think if something seems too good to
Speaker 2: be true, it probably is. If someone's making money hand
Speaker 2: over fist with your money and it seems unusual, you
Speaker 2: should be suspicious. You know.
Speaker 1: If someone is just like really over the top about.
Speaker 2: How evolved and how Dali Lama and how Buddhist and
Speaker 2: how spiritual whatever they are, they're really really collecting celebrities
Speaker 2: as friends.
Speaker 3: Beware.
Speaker 2: But unless I'm missing something, he didn't do any damage
Speaker 2: to any of the people he surrounded himself by. He's
Speaker 2: just like half bullshit, so is everybody else in the
Speaker 2: entertainment industry. Newsflash, I could tell you twenty people that
Speaker 2: you know of that are aless celebrities that pedal one
Speaker 2: bag of bullshit, and it's really the opposite. I know
Speaker 2: so many people that seem so nice on television and
Speaker 2: in movies, and then I've met in person and their
Speaker 2: fucking assholes. Like, you know, I've been in the presence
Speaker 2: of real assholes. And then I know people that you
Speaker 2: would think might be the biggest asshole and they're not.
Speaker 2: They're so nice. Like there are massive celebrities that are
Speaker 2: the nicest people you ever met, and then there are
Speaker 2: like loser C and D list celebrities that are disastrous.
Speaker 2: Like everybody's everything and you got to pick and choose
Speaker 2: and keep your circle tight. But Jay Shetty not, you know,
Speaker 2: having the bullshit spiritual credentials that he said he was.
Speaker 3: Supposed to have.
Speaker 2: I don't think that has anything to do with what
Speaker 2: he's been doing for people, which is like, you know,
Speaker 2: just spewing bullshit and if they believe it.
Speaker 1: It's like a horoscope.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a real astrologer, but when
Speaker 2: I read a horoscope and it works for me, I.
Speaker 3: Feel good for five minutes.
Speaker 2: So certainly I'm not you know team Jay Shehetty, nor
Speaker 2: do I know him. But if he was on my
Speaker 2: com app, I think I'd let him put me to sleep.
Speaker 2: It's all I ever needed him for. It's all I
Speaker 2: ever knew he was about. I need to give a
Speaker 2: shout out about Christina Aguilera. I just happened to see
Speaker 2: a clip of her on Drew Barrymore and Drew Berhmer.
Speaker 2: Is adorable. I love her stock our earrings. It's super
Speaker 2: cute and she's doing a great job. But Christina Aguilera
Speaker 2: looks so good, like twelve out of ten.
Speaker 3: She looks spectacular, phenomenal. And I know her. I know her, and.
Speaker 2: It's I've met her several times, and I've been to
Speaker 2: her house for a party, and I have enough institutional
Speaker 2: knowledge to make this comment that she's great. She's nice,
Speaker 2: she's sort of vulnerable and okay with being flawed. She's
Speaker 2: a queen. She's fierce, she's so freaking talented. She goes
Speaker 2: quiet when she wants to go quiet, she comes loud
Speaker 2: when she's promoting something. She's amazing, Like, I just live
Speaker 2: for Christina Aguilera, So I need to give her.
Speaker 3: A shout out. While I'm giving shout outs.
Speaker 2: I'd like to shout out Beyonce's country album. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know much about country, so I'm certainly no critic
Speaker 2: and I can't comment with institutional knowledge or that I'm
Speaker 2: educated on country music.
Speaker 3: I'm like a complete tourist in the space. But and
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know if I liked her country song,
Speaker 2: meaning you know, and like you don't know if you
Speaker 2: like something, not in a way that you're criticizing them,
Speaker 2: like you literally just don't know if you like it.
Speaker 2: But sometimes after hearing something a while, you do. I
Speaker 2: live for Empire state of mind. But the first time
Speaker 2: I first few times I heard it, I didn't love it,
Speaker 2: and then it became like I lived for it.
Speaker 3: So and that's jay Z, not her.
Speaker 2: But I just am saying that as a because that's
Speaker 2: the one song in my life that I did not
Speaker 2: know if I liked.
Speaker 3: And I can't believe that I'm even saying that at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Beyonce's song, I've heard a couple of times,
Speaker 2: and I don't know exactly how I feel about it,
Speaker 2: but I do know that I haven't stopped it can't
Speaker 2: get out of my head with everything, like you want
Speaker 2: to say it about anything, But like with the Saint Texas,
Speaker 2: but also singing the antics like damnn it is so
Speaker 2: freaking catchy. But that's also social media and TikTok when
Speaker 2: you see something ten thousand times That Megan Trainer song
Speaker 2: was like a worm in my head that I couldn't
Speaker 2: get out. But this one, I really I think it's
Speaker 2: in my mind twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 3: So I love Beyonce.
Speaker 2: She's so elegant, so fierce, so classy, so talented, like
Speaker 2: some people just do it right. And she's not thirsty.
Speaker 2: There's just a difference between someone who you know is
Speaker 2: desperate and thirsty and someone who's not.
Speaker 3: So let's do.
Speaker 2: Mega celebrities that we're thinking of that are not thirsty,
Speaker 2: like this means they're queens. They're just comfortable in their
Speaker 2: own skin. So Beyonce is a queen who is not thirsty.
Speaker 2: She is comfortable in her own skin. Christina Aguilera is
Speaker 2: a queen who is comfortable in her own skin.
Speaker 3: Oh, Alicia Keys a queen.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I'm thinking of the people that I
Speaker 2: really admire and they're comfortable in their own skin, like
Speaker 2: I always talk about them all. She's a queen, She's
Speaker 2: comfortable in her own skin, Like she's not thirsty.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: I mean, Princess Kate is not thirsty, She's comfortable in
Speaker 2: her own skin. I mean sometimes she can be a
Speaker 2: little shy, a little introverted, and so maybe she wasn't
Speaker 2: always comfortable in her own skin. But I feel like
Speaker 2: she's like really gotten. There other people that I'm thinking about,
Speaker 2: Like there's just a difference. I'm thinking of certain people.
Speaker 2: It's not that easy, Like just because you're super famous
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're comfortable in your own skin. And I'm
Speaker 2: really really trying to think of other ones. Think of
Speaker 2: a list celebrities comfortable in their own skin. Let's get
Speaker 2: back to that. I want you guys to think because
Speaker 2: it's not that many people that are so comfortable. Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm really trying, because there are some people that are
Speaker 2: pretty comfortable, ninety percent comfortable, eighty percent comfortable, but not
Speaker 2: fully And I really want to think about people that,
Speaker 2: like you're one hundred percent sure that they really seem
Speaker 2: like they just are comfortable.