1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: This is Trent McDuffie, all Pro Corner with the Kansas 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, and this is the NFL report. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: That's right, this is the NFL Report. I'm Steve Whitewoot. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: My guy James Palmer Ooh, he's looking a bit warmer 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: than he was looking yesterday. But JP, we have a 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: loaded show after these conference championships. We have got Steve Smith, 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Agent eighty nine, here, Stacy Dales who was in Detroit, 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Mike GARATFOLO with the latest news, Jeff Shdea, and a 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: special piece with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. This is a 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: great loaded show, JP. I'm in my normal haunts. I'm 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: in the VO booth here at the NFL Network studios. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: You're still in Buffalo, bro. I can still see the 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Grace guys behind you. Must have been a great atmosphere 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: this morning. 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: Huh. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: It's a great atmosphere, Steve. 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: The Grace guy's rather fitting for what's happening here in Buffalo. 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 5: I'm at my hotel this morning. I'm at a coffee 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: shop that's in the hotel. An older gentleman sitting at 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 5: a table by himself and his bill's hat looks over 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 5: at a family of four next to him, two kids 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 5: about eight years old in their Buffalo Bill's ski hats. 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 5: He looks at the two kids and goes wide right again. 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 6: Boom. 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: The little girl. 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: Looks back at him at about eight years old and says, 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 5: I hate the cheese. 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 7: One to go play sment down. 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 8: Bassist kick is up and the kick. 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 9: Is Oh god, a little prophecy Taylor pass has struggled. 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: And he just misses. The kick just went wide the 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: whole way never came back. Oh the horror to have 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: to relive that. 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: So now there are a WHR Championship Sunday, January twenty eighth. 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: By virtue of that myst the Kansas City Chiefs advance 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: to travel to Baltimore three pm on CBS, and then 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions the NFC Nord champs. They go to 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Top Seat in San Francisco for a six thirty pm 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Eastern times start on Fox. So JP, you were there, 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: we see the final four. You have got to let 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: us know just everything about this game, just the aftermath, 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: the during math, and the math that did not break 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bill's favor. 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: It was a really remarkable scene. 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 5: Steve I loved pregame, maybe more than anything. Chris Jones 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: over there barking at the Bill's mafia, calling him bums repeatedly, 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: over and over again. Patrick Mahomes kind of waving to 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: the crowd. Really, I was told by multiple people in 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 5: the Chiefs organization, Patrick Mahomes was embracing this trip here. 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: He really embraced kind of being the villain, and he 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: was a different player. You saw it pregame and it 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 5: stood out the guys that are around him every single day. 53 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: They just said, he kind of took himself to another level. 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: And we saw this offense go to a different level 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 5: than what we've seen this really entire season. I had 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: a chance to talk to offensive coordinator Matt Naggy before 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: they were getting off the bus Steve, and he said, 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: look at what we did offensively. We barely had a 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: third down. They had five third downs in this entire game. 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 5: They averaged seven point seven yards per play. 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: He said, we knew we were going to start. 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: Getting this thing to click, and now they feel like 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: they're playing the best offensive football of their season. You 64 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 5: saw two touchdowns from Travis Kelce. They believe his legs 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 5: are kind of back after getting that rest in week eighteen, 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: he was going off seven straight games without a touchdown 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: and he was back to his old tricks. But the 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: biggest thing about this, Steve I was told, is there's 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: fewer players rotating in and out at the wide receiver spot. 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: That has been a big part of the synergy and 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: the rhythm that this offense has gained, specifically with Woo 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: rookie Rashi Rice. 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: You saw MVS come on. 74 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 5: They feel like the group they have right now is 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: starting to click better than they have this entire season 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 5: and leave it to the Chiefs to do it when on. 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 10: The road here at Orchard Park and jap You've been 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 10: alluding to this for weeks about the reduced rotation at 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 10: that receiver group and how that will work with the 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 10: rhythm and the functionality, and we've seen since Week seventeen 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 10: this offense has looked more and more like we're used 82 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 10: to singing and think about this. 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: They didn't even run fifty offensive plays, you know, the 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: Really controlled kind of the flow of the game. 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: But like you said, that seven point seven yards were 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: played that they were getting offensively with the mix of the. 88 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: Pass and being able to finish with the run. 89 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco doing some things in the ground game, especially 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: in the red zone. 91 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: We have been begging for it for most of the season. 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: Run the offense through ten, and they did it yesterday 93 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: against an injury beaten down Bill's defense, something they're not 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: going to see against the Ravens and the conference championship 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: next week. But they were able to get it going. 96 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: And then when you have fifteen Patrick mahomes poise. He 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: never flinched when Buffalo counted over and over. He just 98 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: kept coming back and that is the will of a champion. 99 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Real quick, JP, We don't have a ton of time 100 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: for this part, but the defense in the second half, 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: we saw them really negate the Bills run game except 102 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen, and just kind of really stemy so 103 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: much of the Bills when they had opportunities over and over. 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 105 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 5: I talked to a defensive line coach, Joe Cullen, one 106 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: of the best in the game and he's been with 107 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 5: this group for a long time, Steve, and he kind 108 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 5: of said, what we figured out was we were trying 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 5: to do too much on the road in this environment. 110 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: We weren't being gap sound, and we knew we just 111 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 5: kind of had to hold our place or else. Josh 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 5: Allen was going to continue to find holes up front, 113 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 5: which he was brilliant at and running the football up 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 5: the middle, him and James Cook. But when they were 115 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: able to kind of settle down, and he told me, 116 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 5: that's the biggest thing when you're in this position year 117 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 5: after your year, Steve, you find ways to kind of 118 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: be calm in those moments like they were at halftime 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: and they were able to start making plays behind that 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: defensive line. That was a big aspect of what changed 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 5: in the second half. Settling into what they do best, 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 5: not trying to do too much, but they're gonna have 123 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: their hands full with Lamar Jackson and Chris Jones told 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 5: me that on the field, we got to find a 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 5: way because we got another quarterback coming. 126 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: This next Sunday. 127 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, a different solid quarterback, but again rushing with intandem 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: as a fence. That was a big thing. Let's real quick, 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: get to the bills, JP, because you know that's kind 130 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: of the big story. Josh Allen was fantastic, but they 131 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: fall short once again. What is just kind of the 132 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: feeling of that team. You were in the locker room 133 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: on Monday, What's is kind of feeling about this team 134 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: moving forward. 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: Groundhog Day, Steve, it really felt like groundhog Day that 136 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 5: hern was actually used by players getting a chance to 137 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: talk to center Mitch Morris, who really said the biggest 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 5: thing about this is we have so many free agents 139 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: coming up. 140 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: We know that Josh Allen's cap. 141 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: Number goes from a little over eighteen million to forty 142 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: seven million next year. That's going to change the makeup 143 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 5: of how this team is built. But the positive coming 144 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 5: out of that room today Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid, James Cook, 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 5: three unbelievably talented skill players that are extremely young on 146 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: rookie deals surrounding Josh Allen, and they don't even believe 147 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: they've scratched the surface on what they can do with 148 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 5: Kincaid lining them up different spots on the field. Had 149 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 5: coaches telling me pregame, Steve, it's the best rookie titand 150 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: they've ever been around. Dawson Knox said, him and Kincaid together, 151 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: they're not even close to what they can do with 152 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: them As an offense. If Joe Brady stays, which everybody 153 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: today was pulling for running this offense, there's still a lot. 154 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: To smile about. 155 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: But as of right now, it's the same old thing 156 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: that's happened here in Buffalo, and they did it here 157 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: in front of Bill's mafia. To this Bills team just 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: absolutely got wrenching. 159 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: All right, Javy. We talked a lot about the Bills 160 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. 161 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: But coming up next we're going to be joined by 162 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Agent eighty nine, Steve Smith, former wide receiver, to talk 163 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: about the top seed. 164 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh who stood on business and beating the Texans. That's 165 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: up next on the NFL Reboard. 166 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Glamar told itself runs in the last Has it a parn? 167 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Come on in touch out events, dug it out a 168 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: championship gaming board because I. 169 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: Hate a barn. 170 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmers, you watch 171 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: with you and Steve. This is a mount Rushmore guest 172 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: right here. This is in season one. Our top moments 173 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: of the NFL Report have happened when we've had Steve 174 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: Smith Senior on the show. Steve, thanks for joining once again. 175 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 8: Oh thanks for having me man, And it's a pleasure 176 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 8: to be here. Steve Smith senior, not junior, so I'm 177 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 8: really proud of that. 178 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: For those who aren't here, the first time the graphics 179 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: identify I remember as junior or we got to write. 180 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: Hey this time. 181 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 11: But listen, I told you it was just there to 182 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 11: humble me in twenty twenty three. Man. So now when 183 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 11: they get it right, I'm actually thanksful and have thankfulness 184 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 11: that they got it so man. And then my Baltimore 185 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 11: Ravens and then AFC Championship. You know, I got two teams, 186 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 11: Carolina Panthers in the NFC South and then Baltimore Ravens 187 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 11: AFC North. 188 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: Want to stick with those Ravens, Steve, what I'm fascinated about, 189 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 5: and I want to know from your active from knowing 190 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 5: that organization and being you know, the receiver that you 191 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 5: were as a receiver as an offensive player. Can you 192 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: describe what it's like to play with Lamar Jackson because 193 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: it's almost like he plays the position differently than we 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: really see anybody else do it. What is it he 195 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 5: does and what is it like to play with him? 196 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 11: You think, Well, first of all, I don't know what 197 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 11: it's like to be on the same football field with 198 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 11: Lamar Jackson, obviously in the Baltimore Ravens uniform, but I 199 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 11: would say it can be It's a gift in a curse. 200 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 11: The gift is you have the athleticism of a quarterback 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 11: who can scamper, who can move. He's a mobile quarterback 202 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 11: and so when things break down, he can get the 203 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 11: team and the offense out of a jam, and he 204 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 11: can he can move the offense with his legs to 205 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 11: have designed runs for him. It also can be frustrating 206 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 11: for a wide receiver at times, and an example would 207 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 11: be if you have play action where that's where you 208 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 11: open up to the right and then you go ahead 209 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 11: and circle around and go left. Because of his athleticism, 210 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 11: he can sometimes. 211 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 8: Lamar in company. 212 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 11: All mobile quarterbacks they can do things that stationary stands 213 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 11: cannot guys who are known to go through their progressions 214 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 11: and less about their athleticism. 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 8: Right, and so I believe right. 216 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 11: Being a wide receiver where your quarterback is mobile, it's 217 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 11: real freshet and it's helpful. And at times when you 218 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 11: wide open, or when the defense may pressure the quarterback, 219 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 11: or all of a sudden they break away, and then 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 11: your great route is overshadowed because a guy gets in 221 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 11: the face of your mobile quarterback and he takes off 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 11: run and soways say, you're happy he did a eighty 223 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 11: yard or a fifty yard run, but you are already 224 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 11: fifty yards ahead of him, wide open because of the pressure. 225 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 11: So it's it's a gift and the curse. 226 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: But Steve, we've seen him this year. 227 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: He moves more so he scrambles to throw it under 228 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the timeline consistence. He's different than he was before, and 229 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: that to open up the field. We're seeing Isaiah likely 230 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: getting to the end zone like every game at tight 231 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: end coming in from Mark Andrews speaking Mark Andrews who 232 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: could be back coming back from the injuries to add 233 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: to this. So and looking at this game upcoming against 234 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs then and seeing how good the 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: chief defense is, I mean, where does Lamar you know, 236 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: that athleticism, but yet he's looking more downfield for his receivers. 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: Where does that come in to help Baltimore potentially evan 238 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 11: I mean, obviously it comes in because we just saw 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 11: some type of version of a mobile quarterback with Josh Allen, right, 241 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 11: and Josh Allen was cooking and keeping drives alive for 242 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 11: the Buffalo Bills and the Kent City Chiefs at times 243 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 11: looked exhausted. They looked fatigued, they were cold, they were tired, 244 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 11: and that really gave the Buffalo Bills and their fan 245 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 11: base and the Kansas City Chiefs. It gives Buffalo Bills 246 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 11: fans and fan Buffalo Bills hope that this might be 247 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 11: the game that they finally overtake. Patrick Mahomes and Kansas 248 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 11: City had a little doubt of like, man, if we 249 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 11: don't buckle up, And that's where those speeches came in. 250 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 8: That's where man and man conversations. 251 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, when you look 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 11: at this game, the Kentas City Chiefs at Baltimore, it 253 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 11: really becomes a game where you start to say, how 254 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 11: do you want people to know you? Or when your 255 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 11: name comes up, what do you want people to say 256 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 11: about you as an NFL football player? And in January, 257 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 11: in late January, early February, this is where the myth, 258 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 11: the legend of quarterbacks of players begins to be in 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 11: a team where you know them for you know January, Joe, all. 260 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 8: These other guys, Tyreek. 261 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 11: Just all Tyreek Hill, all these different guys who have 262 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 11: impacted the playoffs, Cooper Cup, Jerry Rice, Ricky Waters, right, 263 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 11: these are all the players. 264 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 8: Tom Brady Julia Edelman, all of these players. 265 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 11: You're known for what you did in late January and February, 266 00:13:54,520 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 11: not what you're gonna do in October, some little day 267 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 11: of the week in November. No, nobody's really remembering that 268 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 11: because everybody's tuning in. What thirty one thirty one point 269 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 11: eight million people watched that football game. They watched it 270 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 11: last night, not back in November, not back in September. 271 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 8: They're talking about it today, Steve. 272 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: They were able to try to spy Josh Allen times. 273 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: It was supposed to be really gay, and he goes 274 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: out with the neck injury. He was kind of one 275 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: of the few guys on the field they thought could 276 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: stay with Josh Allen, but they wanted to keep him 277 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: in the pocket. 278 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: They did do a better job of that, not letting 279 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: get An Allan get out wide. 280 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 5: But I want to kind of touch on what Steve 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: mentioned where Mark Andrews potentially coming back for this Ravens offense. 282 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: This might sound insane, he's Ben Lamar's favorite target, but 283 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: is there something about a guy coming back in this 284 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: time where your offense is clicking? Does it throw anything off? 285 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: Like Steve mentioned, Isaiah likely what he's doing. Does it 286 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: throw anything off even if you're as good as as 287 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: Mark Andrews, or it doesn't. 288 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 11: I don't think it throws anything off in this game, 289 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 11: because whether Mark Andrews plays or not, he's not gonna 290 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 11: play the game. If they have seventy sneven snaps, he 291 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 11: isn't gonna play all seventy seven snaps. He's gonna be 292 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 11: on a pitch count. You want to get him back 293 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 11: in there. I don't care how much therapy you do, 294 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 11: how much cardio you are doing running in the pool. 295 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 11: I know that organization. So they have pool stuff. They 296 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 11: got anti gravity treadmill, they got all that stuff. But 297 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 11: here's what you're gonna do. You're looking at this play 298 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 11: right now. You're running against your opponent. You're just audi 299 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 11: your adrenaline going fighting against a guy. That's the stuff 300 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 11: you can't simulate. You ain't fighting against somebody in the 301 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 11: in the anti gravity treadmill, guy in the tub where 302 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 11: you're just running trying to get that weight bearing and 303 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 11: taking off some of the heavyweight because of the injury. 304 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 11: So I don't expect Mark Andrews to play, you know, 305 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 11: ninety percent of the offense. I expect him to play 306 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 11: where he's needed, but also to a point where you 307 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 11: cannot make him predictable of what you possibly are running 308 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 11: because he's in a football game, because he hasn't played 309 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 11: in over a month. 310 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: That's a great point. 311 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: That is next to the point because just him being 312 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: out there, you know defensive personnel is going to try 313 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: to match up a certain way. We got to flip 314 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: it to the other side of the ball real quick, Steve, 315 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: because it's this defense. I mean, they did not allow 316 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown against the Houston Texans. They have been smoking 317 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: teams by an average of eighteen point two points since 318 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: the beginning of December, and that includes a lot of 319 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: playoff caliber teams. They're wiping squads out. When you look 320 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: at Patrick Queen, when you look at ro kwand Smith, 321 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: when you look at Kyle Hamilton and Justin Madebike, all 322 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: these guys, that to me is the swing boat for 323 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens because no one has been able to 324 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: move the ball on them, and if they have, they 325 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: ended up taking it away at some point on that drive. 326 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 11: Well, they're front there, front four, they're front seven. That 327 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 11: three four defense that they're running back with the zone. 328 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 11: What's really remarkable in that is you know they're going 329 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 11: to get pressure, but they also even in getting pressure, 330 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 11: they're disruptive, and the disruptiveness is throwing off the timing, 331 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 11: so it's speeding up the process in which the quarterback 332 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 11: has to deliver the football. 333 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 8: He's never delivering the football, not under the rest. You 334 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 8: can see that. 335 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 11: And so they got Malet, who's who was drafted originally 336 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 11: by the pit Birch Steelers, but then he's playing in 337 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 11: coverage but also blitzing. So it's just problematic that they 338 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 11: can get pressure with their front four and then that 339 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 11: means they're dropping back with the rest of the other 340 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 11: guys in coverage and then they're stout. 341 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 8: In the run game. 342 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 11: And I was when I was in London, I had 343 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 11: the opportunity to to look at Jadeveon Clowney and talk 344 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 11: to him. And the one thing that I noticed with 345 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 11: Jadeveon clown and I remember saying, I went into the 346 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 11: locker room, I said, bro, you got thin man, you 347 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 11: look smaller, and he looked at me said I had 348 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 11: to because of my knee. The adaptation of Jadavion Clowney 349 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 11: understanding for him to impact this game and to stay 350 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 11: consistent in being the disruptive defender that he is and 351 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 11: has been. 352 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 8: He's had to adapt and get a. 353 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 11: Little bit smaller in wait so he can go the 354 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 11: long distance. You got to remember, this is a guy 355 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 11: who played with a number of teams and one of 356 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 11: the biggest issues was health. He's healthy and playing and 357 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 11: so now you have a veteran who's adapted and all 358 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 11: of a sudden he can give some expertise to other 359 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 11: players and hey, this is what I did, and it's 360 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 11: just all of a sudden, it makes them a dangerous team. 361 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 11: We know the Baltimore Ravens for years have been known 362 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 11: for defensive minded organization. We call it the Black and 363 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 11: Blue Division, we call it bullyball. But one of the 364 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 11: things that the Baltimore Ravens have not had in a 365 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 11: consistent way is a prolific offense, passing and running attack, 366 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 11: probably since the last time they won a Super Bowl. 367 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 11: And now we have the opportunity the last time they 368 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 11: won a Super Bowl has the potential to go against 369 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 11: the exact same team and they played the last time 370 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 11: they wanted this is a possibility, Sampsus go for nine, 371 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 11: and so I just it's gonna be unique. 372 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 8: It's gonna be fun. 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 11: I think both defensive coordinators are gonna throw the kitchen 374 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 11: sink at these offenses, and these offense must adapt, but 375 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 11: also be calm and collective and be patient. 376 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: Steve, real quick before we let you go Britique. John 377 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: Harbaugh's dance moves post game that lockery. 378 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: On coach. 379 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 11: Knowing coach Hardball h now his second time dancing. The 380 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 11: first time was was really him, right, it was all him. 381 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 11: The second time was like, all right, if I'm gonna came, 382 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 11: I gotta. 383 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 8: He tried to maybe learn a few moves, but that 384 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 8: gene Pool. 385 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 4: Kicked right back. 386 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 12: He was in on. 387 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: He was hit on the morning. 388 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: Three. 389 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, let me get that, and then that and then that, 390 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I'm let me. But here's the unique thing 391 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 11: about Ball, don't know. I met coach Hoeball my rookie 392 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 11: year at the Pro Bowl. Because of our relationship that 393 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 11: we cultivated at the Pro Bowl. Was one of the 394 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 11: reasons why when I had the opportunity to go to 395 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 11: a team was his constant communication and openness every time 396 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 11: we saw each other at different events throughout the league, 397 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 11: and then when opportunity came to get with each other, 398 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 11: it was one of those things, of course. 399 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 8: But here's the thing, why what do I bring all 400 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 8: this for? 401 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 11: Jason Baker was in Philadelphia for a cup of coffee, 402 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 11: who was a punter for the Carolina Panthers, who lives 403 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 11: here up in Davison, North Carolina, up up at the 404 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 11: Lake Lake Norman and John Harball still Texas here and 405 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 11: there talks to Jason Baker just the same way he 406 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 11: texts and talks to me. So this showed authenticity that 407 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 11: coach whole Coach Harball has especially with special teams player, 408 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 11: but just kind of shows you, right, he can be, 409 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 11: he could be a little tough, he could be annoying, 410 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 11: he can really push your buttons. 411 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 412 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 11: But the thing that I respect in love about Coach 413 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 11: Harball that I can't say it is throughout the league 414 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 11: is you always know where you stand with Coach Harball, 415 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 11: and that is very rare, great stuff. 416 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 7: I love it, Stave, I love it. I love it. 417 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: I love that Steve couldn't even dance offbeat if he tried. 418 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 5: You tried to be off rhythm, Steve, and you couldn't 419 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: even accomplish that. 420 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: You were just too good at it. 421 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 11: Well, I'll say that Steve I'm not really a good 422 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 11: dancer because you know, gangsters don't dance. 423 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: Will they do, Steve? 424 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: They do? 425 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: Steve? 426 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 12: Yes, sir, we got to go. J Pagon is out 427 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 12: of here. 428 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 8: Uh coming up. 429 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: Stacy Dalls was in Detroit, which was an absolute scene. 430 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 4: The Lions are in the NFC Championship game. She's gonna 431 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: take us inside Ford Field next. On the NFL Report. 432 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the NFL Report podcast, but you can 433 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: watch me, Steve Which and my co host James Palmer 434 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: on the NFL Report at seven to fifteen Eastern time 435 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: on Mondays and Thursdays on the NFL app and free 436 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: streaming platforms on the NFL Channel on Roku, two b, Peacock, 437 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Pluto TV and other free streaming apps. 438 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: You're built for this, you're. 439 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 13: And look what you went out there, and then what 440 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 13: it's another hot team that we knocked off. It's the 441 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 13: next hot team. 442 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 12: That you knock off. 443 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 13: Feel how hard it is to win this league in 444 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 13: the playoffs? Do you understand what you're doing right now? 445 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 13: What we're capable of? That's two? All right, that's two. 446 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 13: We got two to go with. 447 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: A buy in the middle. 448 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: Lions coach Dan Campbell after Detroit knocked off Tampa Bay 449 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: to go to the conference championship, just said they've got 450 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: two to go with a buy in the middle. 451 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: That means super Bowl or bust James Palmer. 452 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: We're now bringing in Stacey DALs, who was at that 453 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: divisional playoff face. First off, I mean, we know it 454 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: is now magical for the city of Detroit, for these Lions, 455 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: all of their dubious records and things like that, But 456 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: can you give us an atmosphere and maybe a player 457 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: or a moment who just kind of encompassed what this 458 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: team is doing right now? 459 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, there's so many. There's such a collection. My ears 460 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 14: are still ringing from that game. I mean it was. 461 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 14: It was one of the loudest experiences in fifteen years 462 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 14: covering the NFL that I've experienced myself. When I left 463 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 14: the facility, I would describe it as my ears were 464 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 14: ringing like I left the concert. I mean, that's how 465 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 14: big it was. But there's just so many And I 466 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 14: think when you look at this roster, what Brad Holmes 467 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 14: and Dan Campbell have sort of comprised with this team. 468 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 14: We saw it manifest against the box, right, I mean, 469 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 14: Josh Reynolds, Craig Reynolds both had really important moments in 470 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 14: that game. These are auxiliaries sort of excuse me, supplementary players, right, 471 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 14: and then the Derek Barnes intercept at the end. This 472 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 14: is a fourth rounder that they took in twenty twenty 473 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 14: one out of Purdue. I fell in love with him 474 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 14: during the draft process. And I know why, Like when 475 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 14: you sit and you listen to the character of a 476 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 14: guy like Derek Barnes, and now he has his moment 477 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 14: three seasons later and is a starter for the Detroit 478 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 14: Lions and a defense that has vastly improved. It was 479 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 14: just so unique. And then you ask him. I was 480 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 14: as locker room last night, you guys, and I said, 481 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 14: take me through the interception, take me through the play. 482 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 14: And interestingly, Aiden Hutchinson, prior to that, when I asked 483 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 14: him about the play, he said he had actually called 484 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 14: a game games at the defensive line where they're trying 485 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 14: to get different mismatches and such and create screens and 486 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 14: all that chaos and movement. But Derek didn't even recall that. 487 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 14: All he recalled was the film that he studied on 488 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 14: Baker Mayfield and that Baker likes to go to those 489 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 14: seams and he likes to throw to the scene and 490 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 14: that's exactly where you saw Derek Barns. So there's just 491 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 14: a collection of great character guys on this team, and 492 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 14: you could be happier for him. 493 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 5: And when you have this group of people that are together, Stacey, 494 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: we know the leader that Dan Campbell is, but you 495 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: also need a player that steps up into that spot. 496 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: And I look at the quarterback and we often do 497 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: in this league. And Jared Goff has played in a 498 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: conference team, and I know he's talked about a lot 499 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: of these rookies don't play like rookies in his eyes, 500 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 5: but there's still rookies and lead on lean on a 501 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: lot of young guys on this team. What type of 502 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 5: role do you think he plays this week in Detroit? 503 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 14: Such an important role. You guys know that everything shifts. 504 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 14: You both understand everything shifts this week when we have 505 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 14: Championship Wednesday coming up, which is a very long day. 506 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 14: It's almost like a precursor to what comes at a 507 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 14: Super Bowl, right in terms of the availability, it's all 508 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 14: scheduled out for each team. I'm and Ross Saint Brown actually, 509 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 14: in my postgame interview kind of answered it for me. 510 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 14: To your point, James, just in terms of what type 511 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 14: of leader he's been, he constantly delivers. I have quotes 512 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 14: in front of me. He's just so calm, he's so collected. 513 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 14: But am and Ros said, we're going to have to 514 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 14: count on him basically as I'm paraphrasing, to guide us 515 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 14: through this week because he was in that twenty eighteen, 516 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 14: you know, NFC Championship game when he was with the Rams. 517 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 14: What's really great for this team, I think, guys is 518 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 14: he's two and two all time at San Francisco and 519 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 14: he has boasted some pretty good numbers there. He's not 520 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 14: far where he originated from in California, grew up not 521 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 14: far from there, so he's probably going to have a 522 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 14: big family group coming. But it's probably be a little 523 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 14: emotional for him too, going back to the Bay. But yeah, 524 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 14: I think his leadership James, to your point, one hundred percent, 525 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 14: they're going to count on this week because he's been there. 526 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: Speaking of leadership, Stacey, you know you mentined to been 527 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: here fifteen years. You and I got hired at the 528 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: same time, and you always give us something special with 529 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: your reports. Well Sunday on game Day preview, you gave 530 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: us this special intro to your report from ford Field. 531 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 14: Sorry, is it's so bustling in this place at fort Field, Andrew, 532 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 14: I just lost service officially on my phone. I can't 533 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 14: do a damn thing on this thing at this point. 534 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 14: Did you never get it to work? 535 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 536 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 14: I did eventually, so I had to toggle with it. 537 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 14: But you guys know, when you're at these games, at 538 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 14: this magnete, your phone just cranks out on you and 539 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 14: you're just like you feel helpless, right, James. You can't 540 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 14: tweet anything out, You can't get any information out. If 541 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 14: you did have any breaking news, you can't write. I 542 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 14: did get it restored, though it's usually for me though, 543 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 14: you know, I've been in the playoffs in Green Bay 544 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 14: so much in my history that it's usually because of 545 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 14: the cold weather your phone dies or a severely hot 546 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 14: day early in the season. But yeah, that place was 547 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 14: bustling and that happened. Actually, it's a real z Stayce. 548 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much, absolutely fantastic. 549 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: Can't wait to talk to you next Monday when things 550 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: are cranking up getting ready for this. 551 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now for the lie opponent, San Francisco forty 552 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: nine ers. 553 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: How did they get here? 554 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 15: TV? 555 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 9: On a shoutdown je truck, Trusha gets chased out to 556 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 9: a slight. 557 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 12: Gonna throw on the running back. 558 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Mental man is in a shifted Joe Jack Dray Greenlaw 559 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: big dwayn Dray goes down two interceptions for pig plague 560 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Dray Greenlaw. All right, dam that was a caller, Drake 561 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Greenlaws Field sealed the victory over the Packers right there. 562 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: Now we're bringing in Jeff Shediah. Now, Jeff, you know 563 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: how JP and I love brock perty right, he is 564 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: our guy. 565 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 16: Well, seriously, he was. He was on shaking round. He 566 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 16: was shaking around in this game. Hey, look going into 567 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 16: this game to get the Lions. After that performance, I mean, 568 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 16: what what does that tell you more about? 569 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: Is that? Is it more concerning for the forty nine 570 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: ers the. 571 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Fact that he was able to lead them on the 572 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: game winning drive. You're like, Okay, he's good, he's good 573 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: in the big moment. 574 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 17: Well, look, it was bad weather. For one, it was raining, 575 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 17: and I'll give him credit for that playing through that. 576 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 17: But also he lose Deebo Samuel for a good portion 577 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 17: of that game, which is a huge loss as well. 578 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 14: And look it's. 579 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 17: We know that he's had trouble playing with some of 580 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 17: these circumstances before. But what I loved about what brock 581 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 17: Perry did in that game, he didn't let not let that, 582 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 17: let that bother him when it mattered most. He had 583 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 17: six for seven in that game when he drive let 584 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 17: him down there Christian McAffrey scores the game when he 585 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 17: touched down. 586 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 8: But he was sharp in that moment. He was taking 587 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 8: what was given to him. 588 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 17: He wasn't pressing like he was in that three game 589 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 17: losing streak when he lost Debo and McCaffrey and Trent 590 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 17: Williams earlier this year. So I think it showed a 591 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 17: lot about his character and his toughness and his readiness 592 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 17: to play in these kind of games at this time 593 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 17: of year. 594 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 5: We saw him operating right there out of the gun 595 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 5: a whole bunch in the second half of that game, 596 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 5: Jef something you don't see a whole lot out of 597 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: this offense. And that's why I bring up where he's 598 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: lined up in offense. 599 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: What do you think the. 600 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: Role of Kyle Shanahan's offense plays in in some of 601 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: this stuff we're having this conversation about with rock Perty 602 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: or times in the fourth quarter where the streak was 603 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 5: finally broken. Right, they're now one in thirty when trailing 604 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: by five or more in the fourth quarter. 605 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: Is there any sort of fear in your mind? 606 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 5: With the way Kyle Shanahan's offense is built, it's brilliant. 607 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 5: But if they get behind early in the conference championship. 608 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 17: Well that is a concern just because of the way 609 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 17: the Detroit Lions played football. They want to they want 610 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 17: to beat you up, they want to bully you. And 611 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 17: we saw what happened when they played a team that 612 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 17: was similar to that in the Baltimore Ravens earlier this year, 613 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 17: where the Ravens were very physical with them, able to 614 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 17: get a lead, and they ran away with the game. Now, 615 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 17: Detroit isn't, as I would say, as explosive as the 616 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 17: Ravens in some area, especially quarterback runs, but they have that, 617 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 17: they have that capability to do those kind of things. 618 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 17: So yeah, I think it's sure important as the Niners 619 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 17: play their style of football, play from ahead, get pretty comfortable. Look, 620 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 17: he didn't play last year in an NFC championship game 621 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 17: for longer than what fifteen twenty minutes before he was 622 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 17: out of that game and so we still don't know 623 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 17: how he can play in that level of the game. 624 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: That's a huge question about him. 625 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 17: So they got to get him comfortable in the same 626 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 17: way that the Buffalo Bills had to get Josh Allen 627 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 17: comfortable that Division a round game against the Kansas City Chiefs. 628 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. 629 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, JP was talking about Kyle Shanahan's offense. I 630 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: was getting ready to throw a brick at the ball, saying, 631 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: give the ball to Christian McCaffrey and that may calm 632 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: everything down. But Jeff, real quick, let's flip it to 633 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. I want to talk 634 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: about both number one teams because they both invested in 635 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: their inside linebackers. You know, we led this We led 636 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: this off with a high light of Dre Greenlaw, who 637 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: sits next to Fred Warner, and then he got Rokwan 638 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Smith and Patrick Queen for the Ravens. The way these 639 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: teams are built and the way so many other teams 640 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: dismiss inside linebackers, what about the importance of those players 641 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: and how the this whole defense functions for two of 642 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: the best teams. 643 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 644 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: Well, both of those duos are crucial to their teams obviously, 645 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: and I'm a big believer in what you're talking about 646 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: here that finding those kinds of players in the middle 647 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: of your defense does make a difference. 648 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 17: The hard part is finding those kind of players now 649 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 17: because it's so the NFL is so diversified, and it's 650 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 17: hard to get guys who have the side and the 651 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 17: athletic ability to play there and be effective. But when 652 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 17: you have two guys like that, it makes it a 653 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 17: huge difference. There's no question that what Drake Greenlaw and 654 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 17: Fred Warner bring to that defense is attitude. It's tone setting, 655 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 17: it's playmaking, it's all the things that you look at 656 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 17: Dallas for example, when they have to defend the run 657 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 17: and they can't get it done. You look at some 658 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 17: of the other teams around the league that can't find 659 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 17: those big plays when they need them. They always rely 660 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 17: on these kind of players to deliver for them, and 661 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 17: that's what's made them so successful. I know it's about 662 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 17: pass rush and cover corners and all this stuff, but 663 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 17: those guys in the middle, like I said, they set 664 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 17: the tone and they establish the identity that you have 665 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 17: to have to win ball games on defense. 666 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: And Jeff was interesting too. You mentioned that position. 667 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by the game that I watched yesterday and 668 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 5: the Chiefs run essentially to mike linebackers at times on 669 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 5: the field at the same time and Drew Tranquill and 670 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 5: Nick Bolton. It's a facet of their defense to stay 671 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 5: physical in the middle of the field. And I bring 672 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: that up because let's talk about Deebo Samuel real quick. 673 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 5: We saw this offense with the forty nine ers get 674 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 5: disjointed when Deebo was off the field. 675 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 6: He was part of the. 676 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 5: Game plan and running the football. They wanted him to 677 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 5: be physical running the football as part of their game 678 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 5: plan in that game, and weren't able to do it. 679 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: You saw other guys step up in his place. 680 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 5: Were you either, I guess, encouraged by the number of 681 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 5: guys that filled his role in a variety of spots, 682 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 5: or discouraged about them playing without him potentially in the 683 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 5: after Well, I. 684 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 17: Was discourage just knowing that, look, you can get through 685 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 17: a game or a part of a game without him 686 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 17: being there. To go into a game without him being 687 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 17: part of your game plan, that's a big, big absence 688 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 17: for them, because you know, I talked to a personnel 689 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 17: guy earlier this year, and he described Diebo as their bully. 690 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: You know you as the route runner. 691 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 17: Kittle is the is the top tight end from the 692 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 17: top tight ends in the league. McCaffrey is the do 693 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 17: everything running back. But Depo is like Fred Warner and 694 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 17: Drake green Law, the guy who sets a tone on 695 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 17: offense for them. And so because he can light up 696 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 17: in so many places, because he can do so many 697 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 17: things with the football in his hands, that it's you 698 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 17: lose that, and it's it's enormous. It's like two we're 699 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 17: talking about Loa losing Tyreek Hill. 700 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 8: You just don't. 701 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 17: You don't find guys who replace that easily. They manage 702 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 17: to do it for a few quarters, but to do 703 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 17: it for entire game against a team like Detroit, it's 704 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 17: gonna be tough. 705 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 706 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: And Jeff, as you know, with Debo out there, defensive coordinator, 707 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: someone like Aaron Glenn's be like, okay, we've got to 708 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: focus on that. Without him out there, they can change 709 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: their defense and run it much differently. 710 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff, we appreciate you checking us out. 711 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: Hanging out of the NFL report again is your typical Monday, 712 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: appearing to have fun this weekend at the conference championships and. 713 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: We come back, we're gonna be talking about Bill Belichick. 714 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: He is to ever do it right? But is he 715 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: really wanted to coach another team? Mike Carrofolo tell us 716 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: on the NFL. 717 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 5: Report, Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve 718 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 5: whtch with you? 719 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 17: Now? 720 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: Look who it is, Steve. 721 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 5: It is the batman to Steve Smith's Robin. It is 722 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 5: Mike Carrafolo, the star of every Thursday Night on NFL 723 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 5: Network this season. In the NFL Reports, insider Michael, I 724 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 5: have to start off with the name. Everybody is trying 725 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 5: to get their hands on and figure out and wrap 726 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 5: around the greatest coach of all time in Bill Belichick. 727 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 4: What is happening with Bill right now? 728 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: Particularly Atlanta is the one we keep hearing, but they're 729 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 5: interviewing about a lot of other people. If things don't 730 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 5: work out in Atlanta right now, could we see a 731 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 5: year where we don't have Bill Belichick in the NFL? 732 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 17: Yeah? 733 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 7: I believe so. 734 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 9: Perhaps a guest on the NFL Report next year, or 735 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 9: maybe the Insiders anything he'd be willing to come off 736 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 9: here in NFL. 737 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 2: Combo Ask a combo asks for Bill, Mike Lit going on. 738 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 9: Here, James Power not going on for the Atlanta FL 739 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 9: because you're right. I mean, they've definitely conducted a thorough search. 740 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 9: And at first it was like, oh, they're conducting this 741 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 9: thorough search is sort of an Oakie dope, But it 742 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 9: really feels like they are. And the fact that they're 743 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 9: talking to Jim Harball again for the second time. So yeah, 744 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 9: I still feel like Bill Belichick in this situation is 745 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 9: going to look for something that's right for him and 746 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 9: if it's not right, not really rush into another job here. 747 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 9: I mean, I know he's at a latter part of 748 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 9: his NFL career and not a whole lot of time 749 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 9: despair and not that he's dying here, But the point is, 750 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 9: you know, you would think that if he's gonna try 751 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 9: to chase that record that he wants to get so badly, 752 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 9: he would jump into another job. No, it's gonna have 753 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 9: to be right, and it's gonna have to be the 754 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 9: right set up for a guy who had the right 755 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 9: setup for him for twenty years. 756 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: To that point though. 757 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean, other than the Falcons, there's no no other 758 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: teams really knocking on his door. I had a conversation 759 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: with somebody, uh with with you know who's involved with 760 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: the Falcons surge, who said that they are very impressed 761 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: with some of these other candidates, like maybe it was 762 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: Belichick's to lose and some of these other candidates, some 763 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: of these young upstarts have been so impressive it might 764 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: no longer be Bill Belichick. 765 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: So to that point, what about some. 766 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: Of these other you know, Mike McDonald, some of these 767 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: other names we're hearing from these young upstarts who could 768 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: be taking the place, like getting an Atlanta job or 769 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: some of these other squads. 770 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, Mike McDonald, I'm gonna give you the scouting report 771 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 9: out of Baltimore from uh Mike McDonald if I can 772 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 9: find it here. Uh yeah, Tell he is he smells, 773 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 9: he doesn't brush his teeth. Uh, and he's a bad 774 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 9: character guy. And that's what they say when they don't. 775 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 4: Want to lose a guy. 776 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 9: So that's what you're telling me out of Baltimore, And 777 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 9: make sure you tell everybody all these things. 778 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 7: About Mike McDonald. 779 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 9: So, Mike McDonald is a guy that they think extremely 780 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 9: highly of. 781 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 7: He's a defensive guy. 782 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 9: If he was an offensive guy, he'd be over Ben Johnson. 783 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 9: As far as the guy that we're talking about, that's 784 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 9: absolutely pointifly going to get a job. But he's a 785 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 9: defensive guy, right, You got that working against you in 786 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 9: this league here. But the job that he has done 787 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 9: with the Baltimore Ravens over the last couple of years, 788 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 9: going from one hardball gym at Michigan to the other 789 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 9: harball john and back into the NFL level, I think 790 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 9: this guy's setting himself up to be a head coach 791 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 9: fran long time in this league, perhaps perhaps starting in 792 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 9: twenty twenty four. 793 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 4: What if you heard when you're asking around the league. 794 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: But when you look at coaches like Mike McDonald and 795 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 5: guys that are still playing and they're still gonna be playing, 796 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 5: right even though they've slowed the process, Are. 797 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 4: They at an equal spot. 798 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 5: Or they at a disadvantage right now as teams even 799 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 5: though it's slower, are going through all of them. 800 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 9: I think it's helping the folks that are still in it, 801 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 9: for sure. I think it's helping all guys. Go back 802 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 9: to what we talked about with Atlanta, I mean that 803 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 9: is a situation where it reminded me of Andy Reid 804 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 9: going from Philly to Kansas City. 805 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 7: I remember it was done like practically. 806 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 9: The next day or maybe Tuesday, after he had coached 807 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 9: his last game with the Eagles, and then they had 808 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 9: to do the sham Rooney rule interview and it was like, no, no, 809 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 9: we're really gonna Andy Reid was at the North Philadelphia Airport, 810 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 9: the Northeast Philadelphia Airport. 811 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 7: Getting the deal done. 812 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 9: In this case with Atlanta, that probably or may have 813 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 9: been the case as it was years ago. But because 814 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 9: the process has been slowed down, that's allowed for why's 815 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 9: what you're hearing, Hey, we're really impressed with all these 816 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 9: candidates that we've had a chance to have a conversation with. 817 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 9: So if I'm still in the playoffs, I'm thankful that 818 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 9: the NFL has slowed this thing down and given us 819 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 9: a chance to have a full search regardless of what 820 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 9: your current situation. 821 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 7: Is with your current team you're coaching with. 822 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: Might we got forty five seconds? The Philadelphia Eagles have 823 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: scheduled a news conference with Nick Sirianni and Howie Roseman. 824 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: Those aren't Tea Leaves. 825 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: That's telling us something about who their head coach is 826 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: going to be twenty twenty four. 827 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I never really thought it was not going to 828 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 9: be Nick Sirianni. 829 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 7: So this doesn't surprise me. 830 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 9: And we knew that they were gonna be widespread changes 831 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 9: on the coaching staff. They've interviewed Ron Rivera, They're gonna 832 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 9: interview Mike Calbler. Actually are interviewing Mike Caldwell, the former 833 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 9: Eagles linebacker who was with the Jaguars. Defensive coordinator Brian 834 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 9: Johnson's interviewing for head coaching job. 835 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 7: So they don't want to fire him necessarily. 836 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 9: But there's gonna be an evaluation of potential move there 837 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 9: on the offensive side of the ball. They got to 838 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 9: get Jalen Hurts right. There's something off about the quarterback. 839 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 9: I know he was injured this year, but there's just 840 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 9: something that's not right there, and especially the connection with 841 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 9: him and his teammates. Some of the stuff we were 842 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 9: hearing about Carson Wentz, we're now hearing about Jalen Hurts. 843 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 7: Oh, Like it's completely off base either. 844 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 9: To be honest with it, Jalen Hurts got to get 845 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 9: back with his teammates, with his coaches and in the 846 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 9: right frame of mind heading into twenty four. 847 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: All Mike jam Once, you know, once his coaching circle, 848 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: you know carrousel stopped spinning. Some of those coordinators will 849 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: become more available as they're looking for work. 850 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: Mike, Gee, appreciate you and the fam. That was a splendid, 851 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: splendid segment. 852 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 6: All right. 853 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: Coming up in the final bodus of the NFL Report, 854 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: we go off the field for a visit with NFL 855 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell. 856 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: By a visit him and I took this summer. Next 857 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 2: on the NFL Report. 858 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 5: Hey, it's James Palmer and you're listening to the NFL 859 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 5: Report podcast along with myself and Steve Weisch. 860 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 7: But remember if you want to see our beautiful. 861 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 5: Faces, this is a show at seven point fifteen Monday 862 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 5: and Thursday at seven fifteen pm Eastern, and we are 863 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 5: on the NFL app as well as fast streaming platforms. 864 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 5: That's two B, that's Roku, that's Pluto, that's Peacock, all 865 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 5: of those platforms as well as the NFL dot Com, Slash, 866 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 5: NFL channel. 867 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 4: Find us all of those spots. 868 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Wetch 869 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 5: with you. And on top of Steve just being a 870 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 5: great host on this show, Steve spends a lot of 871 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 5: time doing other things around this league, Steve on and 872 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 5: off the field, and this, to me is one of 873 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 5: the most interesting and coolest things I've seen you do 874 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 5: in recentm Well. 875 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, James, because in August, NFL Commissioner Roger 876 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: Goodell and I joined former player Justin took Tuck, Miami 877 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: Heat assistant coach Karan Butler, and to people from the 878 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: Vera Institute of Justice and taking a tour of the 879 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: True Unit at the Cheshire Correctional Institution in Connecticut. And 880 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: the Special Unique Unit is a rehabilitative unit aimed at 881 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty five year olds will be returning to 882 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: society one day. Right now, I'm joined by NFL Commissioner 883 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell and Commissioner even though it's you know, we 884 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: went on this visit in August and we're months removed, 885 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: the impact of that day to me still feels like yesterday. 886 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: I just want to kind of get what you felt 887 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: then and then just kind of the after effect now, 888 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: like what you're still feeling about that visit. 889 00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 6: As you know. 890 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 15: So I was there really at the request of Justin Tuck, 891 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 15: who said I did this, would you be willing to 892 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 15: do it? I promise you it'll be worth your time. 893 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 15: And I found it such an incredible moment in the 894 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 15: context of you learned so much that you probably only imagine, 895 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 15: but you don't have an opportunity to really experience. And 896 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 15: most of that was the humanity of the people we met, 897 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 15: the extraordinary individuals that were there that clearly had made 898 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 15: a mistake, and they all acknowledged they were there for 899 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 15: the wrong reasons, and that's how they were looking at 900 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 15: their lives. And I think the time for us to 901 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 15: be up there. You know, they kept repeating it to us, right, 902 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 15: thank you for taking the time, thank you for caring 903 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 15: about us. It was interesting to me how much believing 904 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 15: in somebody makes an impact. 905 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 6: But the one thing I really took when the program 906 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 6: was the language. 907 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: And they said, it's important they're not referred to as 908 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: prisoners or inmates or by a number. They're referred to 909 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: as mentors and mentees and young men. What did you 910 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 1: find you talked about the humanity, What did you find 911 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: about how much that meant to at least making these 912 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: people have some sort of dignity while they're behind bars. 913 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 15: I think this program what was so impactful to me 914 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 15: is that it was all about teaching these young men 915 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 15: how their life still ahead of them. What are they 916 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 15: going to do to take advantage of the opportunity when 917 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 15: they get out. How mentors who are going to be 918 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 15: in there and have been in there for maybe a lifetime, 919 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 15: are making a difference in their lives so that they're 920 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 15: successful when they walk out of there. And to me, 921 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 15: that's what we're looking for is rehabilitation, not penalty, right. 922 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 15: We're looking to see these people go on and be successful. 923 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 15: These young men be contributors to society, and they appreciate 924 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 15: the fact that we cared about that. 925 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: One of the most jarring moments, memorable moments came. We 926 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: were all in one wing together not too long before 927 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: we wrapped, and they passed the microphone along and one 928 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: of them looked at Justin Tuck and said, Justin, you 929 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: were here before, and hold us the next time you're 930 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: coming back. 931 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 6: You're coming with the commissioner. 932 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: Here he is, He said to most of us, that's 933 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: the first time someone in life upheld a promise. 934 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 11: He came back with Roger Goodell, come on, man, give 935 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 11: you the round. 936 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: Of course, when you saw that, when you heard that, 937 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what was that like? 938 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, I agree, Steve. It was a jarring moment because 939 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 15: one my hat's off to Justin because he really felt 940 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 15: this was an important moment for these young men to return, 941 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 15: to come back and to do what he said he 942 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 15: was going to do. That was important to Justin. It 943 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 15: was important for me to help support him in that context. 944 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 15: But I feel the same way I think. You know, 945 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 15: you don't just go there, visit and leave. You have 946 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 15: to carry what you learned and the thoughts of these 947 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 15: young men every day with you and hopes that you 948 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 15: can make a difference for them at some point. 949 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Commission, of course, you know everybody wanted to speak with you. 950 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: Have you been in contact with anybody from the program 951 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: or the facility since we've been there. 952 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 15: Yeah, it was really actually surprising to me, Steve. Some 953 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 15: of them reached out, and you know, I responded to them, 954 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 15: and I expect I'm going to see them again someday 955 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 15: where they're out here in society and they're back doing 956 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 15: something important to their life and productive in life, and 957 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 15: we can be supportive in some way. 958 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 6: That's so good to hear. 959 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: And as you know, the NFL is a partner with 960 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: the Vera Institute of Justice, and trying to get some 961 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: things done. 962 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 6: With the incarcerated peoples. 963 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: But as we wrap up, you grab the mic and 964 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: you told the young men in this program, the mentors 965 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: in this program, the guards, that the NFL is committed 966 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: to that true program, to Verra, to Tashure, what can. 967 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 2: Be done there and. 968 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 6: What maybe can the NFL do to continue to expand 969 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 6: programs like this. 970 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 15: You know, I think there are their programs are inspired 971 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 15: change work that we focus so much on. How do 972 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 15: we improve the criminal justice system? It's one of our pillars, 973 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 15: and we believe that we can have an impact. This 974 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 15: program true and the very institute I think is actually 975 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 15: well on its way, and that's a program that can 976 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 15: be taken into other institutions and I believe that's ultimately 977 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 15: going to be a good thing. 978 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: It was an amazing experience, Commissioner. I'm glad you went. 979 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: I'm glad we were invited to go. And as we know, 980 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: with all these programs with the NFL, it's not what 981 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: the NFL and people do, it's the impact that they 982 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: have on others. And you and Vera and Justin Tuck 983 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 1: have had a lot of impact on people. 984 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 6: So thank you for that, and thanks for spending time 985 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 6: with us. 986 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 15: Well, Steve, thank you, but thank you for coming also 987 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 15: because I know you made a difference. Also, listen, they 988 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 15: just need people believing them and the fact that you 989 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 15: were there was impactful on them also, so thank you. 990 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate that. Thanks again. 991 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 5: Well. 992 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: The one thing these young men in this program understanding 993 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: there are victims outside because of their behavior, but this program, 994 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: should they get out, they're hoping makes them better people 995 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: and they could be big contributors to society. 996 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 8: JP. 997 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 5: Amazing work all of you guys, just just absolutely unreal. 998 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 6: Now. 999 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 5: Remember we are coming up with the NFL report on Thursday. 1000 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 5: But that handsome face right there, not mine one next 1001 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 5: to it, Steve Wish will not be there. 1002 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 6: With me on Thursday. 1003 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 5: We'll be replaced by the one Rhett Lewis. Steve right, Yes, 1004 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 5: NFL Network Fame. It's gonna be Ret and Eye on Thursday, 1005 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 5: seven fifteen. We're gonna have a fully loaded show. We'll 1006 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 5: miss you tremendously, but it was a great seeing your 1007 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 5: face today here from Orchard Park. 1008 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: Steve, miss you as well. See everybody next Monday. It's 1009 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 2: a podcast. Listen to the podcast.