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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as per usual, and

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Speaker 2: plenty of NFL and Bill's news happening. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in just a second. Steve, I have a new enemy,

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Speaker 2: and it is of the insect variety. I know you

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Speaker 2: deal with the deer that you commonly refer to as

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Speaker 2: vermin in your yard. We are waging a war in

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Speaker 2: my neighborhood because it's me and a collection of neighbors

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Speaker 2: against the Japanese beetle.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the green, little green beetles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like metallic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you get those little bag things around?

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Speaker 2: So for the last three or four years, they have

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Speaker 2: attacked our neighborhood in force by the thousands. And from

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Speaker 2: what I've talked to my brother in law, I've talked

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Speaker 2: to that live in other towns, you know, Oh, we

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Speaker 2: don't have those. It sounds like it's like very localized.

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Speaker 2: I know other people in Western New York experience them,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like they all decided to congregate in

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Speaker 2: my neighborhood because I've sprayed, I've got flowering trees that

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Speaker 2: I have to spray to kill these bugs and keep

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Speaker 2: them from literally eating my tree alive, like to the

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Speaker 2: point where half the leaves are on the ground now,

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Speaker 2: like in June and July. So I've made a habit

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Speaker 2: of spray in the trees. You know, you feel you

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Speaker 2: put a teaspoon in this, I guess poison in with water,

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Speaker 2: and then I spray my tree and they start dropping

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Speaker 2: like flies, you know. A half hour later, I got

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Speaker 2: a body count around the floor. But I'm only killing

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Speaker 2: like fifty to one hundred at a time. These things

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Speaker 2: are coming by the thousands, and when it's hot like

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Speaker 2: it has been, I feel like they multiply even.

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Speaker 1: More, insects thriving that. It seems so me and my neighbors,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: We are officially waging more. We all have those bag traps.

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Speaker 1: Those things fill up.

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Speaker 2: I filled two in a week, Yeah, like I got

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Speaker 2: that's I probably bagged a thousand in a week. Like

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Speaker 2: that's how many are just crazy? And some people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: don't use those because then you attract them to your yard.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I just want them dead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you attract them, they show up.

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Speaker 2: But I've got I put a bag right in between

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Speaker 2: two trees that they're eating, and you know, they come there.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of how I'm doing it. But my

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Speaker 2: neighbor's got a bag to the left of me. My

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Speaker 2: neighbor behind me's got a bag.

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Speaker 1: Those things work pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Doors down. They've got a bag.

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Speaker 1: You keep fresh bait in it. Yeah, yeah, they fill

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Speaker 1: up fast.

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Speaker 2: I mean two weeks ago, I felt like we were losing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was like Washington in the early years

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't we're not at Yorktown yet, but

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Speaker 2: you know, we're we're working our way there because and

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Speaker 2: I know, by like the end of August, they're gone,

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Speaker 2: Like you don't see one again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a short lived season for them, but they

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Speaker 1: do their damage. Holy vermin. When you when you're on

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Speaker 1: you're trying to do all this stuff, you notice all

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, it's rough. I gotta do something. I swear.

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Speaker 2: I've been identified by the bug community because now so

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Speaker 2: I went out to spray my tree a third time

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Speaker 2: so to spray again. I'm out there spraying. I swear

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Speaker 2: let's get them. Like if the if the Japanese beetle

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Speaker 1: The Japanese beetles. Oh my gosh, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: They're terrible, is it? There? Is it time for that?

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Speaker 2: It started about three weeks ago. But that's the thing,

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Speaker 2: This year, crazy, absolutely nuts. So I can I don't

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Speaker 1: It's amazing what you notice, and that this time of year.

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Speaker 1: I noticed fireflies at my place, So you have to

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Speaker 1: It's like I have a light show in my backyard

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They like the trees by us better than your trees.

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Speaker 1: It's we'll see what kind of trees are they do?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just like you know, like a flowering

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is a homeowner a homeowner.

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Speaker 2: So I'll be happy when this war is one. We're

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Speaker 2: working our way there. You know. It's not like patents

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Speaker 2: so hopefully it happens and they wave the white flag.

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Speaker 2: As we said, plenty of Bill's news to get to,

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Speaker 2: and it starts with Bill's second round draft choice, TJ. Sanders.

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Speaker 2: As we had been telling you earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: there was a stalemate in the second round with draft

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Speaker 2: were at the top of the round. Carson Sweeshinger and

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Speaker 2: Jayden Higgins from Cleveland and Houston respectively signed fully guaranteed contracts,

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Speaker 2: which was a precedent setting move by those two clubs

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Speaker 2: to get that form my guy now. So it created

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Speaker 2: a logjam of guys waiting and seeing what was going

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Speaker 2: to happen, and fortunately the forty nine ers and Alfred

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Speaker 2: that was only about ninety percent guaranteed, So that allowed

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Speaker 2: we can work with this, well, TJ. Sanders people got

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Speaker 2: the deal done with the Bills four year deal ten

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Speaker 2: ten million of that is guaranteed, which is very similar

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Speaker 2: the entire Bills draft class will be on hand at

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Speaker 2: training camp starting next week. Now, Landon Jackson might not

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Speaker 2: everybody else. So everybody signed though, it's the good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So all hands on deck, here they go. And

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. We're what's five days away now, just kind

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Speaker 1: of yeah, drumming our fingers waiting for this thing to start.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we found out today we're gonna be on

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Speaker 2: That's right, day one, first practice of training I should say,

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Speaker 2: first practice of training camp. Wednesday. Next week. We've got

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Speaker 2: a special three hour edition of one Bills Live, which

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Speaker 2: will begin with general manager Brandon being addressing the media.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have that live for you next Wednesday for

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Speaker 2: the first practice, and the first practice will have already

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Speaker 2: at noon next Wednesday on our show, we'll have a

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Speaker 2: Our camp coverage begins and plows right through the whole

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Speaker 1: As you found out too. Uh, we talk about the

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Speaker 1: schedule going forward. I'm looking at the beyond the Blue

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Speaker 1: Uh So, Marve is turning one hundred. They're doing it

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Speaker 1: But uh, I'm looking forward to that all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: Yet I love Marv. The party starts at four pm.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking Marvel last till about five fifteen. Come on,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't make it to seven, I'm teasy. But he's

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Speaker 1: he's taking half in the afternoon Hall of Fame head coach.

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Speaker 1: But he's a Hall of Fame human being first, So

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Speaker 1: you can imagine the dignitaries that will at the Hall

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Speaker 1: the five presidents. We've been chit chatting about that. All

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame guys that I played with are

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Speaker 1: of others. So happy birthday to Marrow. Coming up a

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Speaker 1: week from today, A week, no, a week, two weeks

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Speaker 1: Ye? Two weeks from today, two weeks from today?

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Speaker 2: Live calendar math right?

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Speaker 1: Public? So yeah, congratulations tomorrow, looking forward to that. Training

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Speaker 1: camp gets started wednesday. Man, thanks for as vacant and

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Speaker 1: empty as this building's been for a month.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's gonna flip all.

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Speaker 1: Of a sudden. It's a beehive and everybody's buzzing.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna flip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just like that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to around the NFL presented by Kalada Healthy,

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Speaker 2: Official Healthcare System of the Buffalo Bills. And uh, we've

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Speaker 2: been talking about these second round draft picks and how

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Speaker 2: they're starting to trickle in, and we were wondering even

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too, I don't know that anything any

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Speaker 2: In contract related news, TJ. Watt is again the highest

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Speaker 1: The last regular seasons, he's played every snap in let

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Speaker 1: This contract goes through his thirty five, his thirty four years,

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of defensive linemen, the Lions are going to

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Speaker 3: A couple of I don't know comments questions a few

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Speaker 3: my onlyay is thinking to go from five million to

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Speaker 3: thirteen and a half topillion. We met quite suize the

436
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Speaker 3: little inta, I only wish that you guys worked for

437
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Speaker 3: my union and I used to work. Okay, we've gone

438
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Speaker 3: from one hundred to three hundred and fifty five and dollars,

439
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Speaker 3: but I don't think he's worth it. And then my

440
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Speaker 3: second nut, you know, it's the fust. He's players that

441
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Speaker 3: get drafted like the second round out of one still

442
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Speaker 3: here and keep contract, which I could say less. But

443
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Speaker 3: if they don't time with the team that drafts, what

444
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Speaker 3: exactly do they do they have this time with that

445
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Speaker 3: team over how many years go by?

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good questions.

448
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Speaker 1: John having a hard time, Yeah, those questions.

449
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Speaker 2: Thanks, first and foremost an extension for Cook. You don't

450
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Speaker 2: when you're looking at what he makes now, you can't

451
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Speaker 2: take that and say, well you should only get like

452
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Speaker 2: a three percent raise. They don't. They don't deal with

453
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Speaker 2: contracts and what raises should be like the general public, like,

454
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Speaker 2: if we get a cost of living increase or a

455
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Speaker 2: three percent raise, we're happy, right like, and we get

456
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Speaker 2: anything more than that, we're ecstatic. That's not how it

457
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Speaker 2: is in the NFL. And the reason why primarily is

458
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: because their contracts are one tenth the length of what

459
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Speaker 2: yours is going to be over the over your working life.

460
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Speaker 2: Most NFL career last three and a half years on average,

461
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Speaker 2: so you're trying to make as much money as possible

462
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Speaker 2: in the shortest window of time arguably of any career

463
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Speaker 2: out there. So you're just looking for fair market value.

464
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Speaker 2: You don't care about what is the percentage increase? What

465
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Speaker 2: are the guys in my position that have comparable production

466
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Speaker 2: make in the league right now? And so you've got

467
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Speaker 2: to look that's how it scales, not by percentages like

468
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Speaker 2: you know the rest of us with regular working jack.

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Speaker 1: It has you. What you're gonna make in your next

470
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Speaker 1: contract has nothing to do with what you made in

471
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Speaker 1: your last one. Yeah, absolutely nothing.

472
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Speaker 2: So if you want to look at the list, like

473
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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's at the top of the food chain in

474
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Speaker 2: terms of average annual value at twenty point six million

475
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Speaker 2: a year, Christian McCaffrey nexitt nineteen, Dereck Henry at fifteen,

476
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor at fourteen. After that, I think you get

477
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Speaker 2: closer to the area of where James Cook should probably be.

478
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Speaker 2: You're talking about Alvin Kamara at twelve to five, Josh

479
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: Jacobs at twelve, and then Aaron Jones at ten. But

480
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: all of those guys log heavier workloads than James Cook,

481
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Speaker 2: who plays in a three man backfield. Is he the

482
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Speaker 2: featured guy, Yes in terms of ability and production, yes,

483
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Speaker 2: but he's not a three hundred carry a year guy

484
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Speaker 2: like a Josh Jacobs. So I think that's where the

485
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Speaker 2: rub is as to what James Cook believes his value

486
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Speaker 2: is and what the Bills believe his value is. Hopefully

487
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Speaker 2: they can find some middle ground, but I think it's

488
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Speaker 2: gonna have to fit somewhere in that twelve million dollar

489
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Speaker 2: range for the Bills to maybe put an extension together,

490
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Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's good enough for Cook.

491
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Speaker 2: You can, you can structure it in such a way

492
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Speaker 2: where there's so much money up front that it has

493
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Speaker 2: the look of fourteen or fifteen million a year, but

494
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Speaker 2: it's really not And I don't know if the bills

495
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Speaker 2: are willing to go that far, but you can get

496
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Speaker 2: created with the structure of the deal. So there's so

497
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Speaker 2: much upfront money that it's palatable to Cook and I'll

498
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Speaker 2: have to wait.

499
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Speaker 1: And see upfront money and Johnny. Upfront money means you

500
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Speaker 1: get the money no matter what. You signed a contract

501
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: and you get a check, a big check, and then

502
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the money's paid out in dribs and

503
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: drabs over the rest of the contract. So you get

504
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Speaker 1: the money up front and then you play. That's possibility

505
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Speaker 1: with the negotiating. They can negotiate that in do it

506
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Speaker 1: and do the contract that way. As for him being

507
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Speaker 1: worth it, well that's up to you. I mean, you said,

508
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, you don't think he's gonna be worth it all?

509
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: Maybe not, uh, but the market and NFL running backs

510
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Speaker 1: for a good one and James Cook is a really

511
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Speaker 1: good one. That's what you're looking at. Drafted players get

512
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Speaker 1: the guaranteed money that they're that they negotiate. That's why

513
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: all this none of these second round picks were signed.

514
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Speaker 1: Yet you mentioned, you know, do the drafted players get

515
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Speaker 1: that money guaranteed if they negotiate it guaranteed they get it.

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Speaker 1: If they don't, they don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, he also said what happens if they don't sign.

518
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Speaker 2: A team has that players' rights until they get to

519
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Speaker 2: the next draft. If you get all the way to

520
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six draft and you haven't signed your

521
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Speaker 2: draft choice, he is eligible to re enter the draft

522
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Speaker 2: and get picked by anybody except the team that drafted him,

523
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Speaker 2: I think is how it reads. So they basically have

524
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Speaker 2: a calendar year to get him under contract. You also

525
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: have to remember the player is sacrificing a year tolling

526
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Speaker 2: on his accrude seasons of service because they want to

527
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Speaker 2: get to vested for you know, they want to be

528
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Speaker 2: a vested veteran as soon as possible, which happens after

529
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Speaker 2: four accrude seasons. So there's something that the player sacrifices, obviously,

530
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to make money as well as you know,

531
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Speaker 2: when the team obviously doesn't have the services of the player.

532
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Speaker 2: So that's the sacrifice they made by using a draft

533
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: choice on him. So that usually doesn't happen. We'll see

534
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: if the Shamar Stewart situation gets even more ugly. That's

535
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: the first round pick of the Bengals who has not

536
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: signed yet and doesn't look like he's anywhere close to

537
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Speaker 2: doing so. Got to take a break. Here more of

538
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Speaker 2: your phone calls and your OBL Friday fan mailbag questions.

539
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Speaker 2: When we return, we'll lead off with Kevin and Hamburg

540
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: and Lewis in Rochester on the other side. Here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by to a Lot of health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here on one Bills Live

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Speaker 2: on an OBL Friday fan mail bag. Any question you got,

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: fire away at eight o three oh five fifty one

545
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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty because we're

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Speaker 2: going back to the phones right now and to Kevin

547
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Speaker 2: in Hamburg. What's up, Kevin?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 5: Tell you doing Thanks for taking my call. Sure, I

550
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: want to ask you a question about the hard knocks

551
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: thing for the train came? Is that right?

552
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: Okay?

553
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: Yeah? Now the first three or four d's, will they

554
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: be there in those first three or four days or

555
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 5: will they start brass tacks on Monday? Because those free

556
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 5: three board ds you're getting to cuts into every day,

557
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 5: you know, like when morning he used to go to school,

558
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: like high school, and then the first three boarteen you're

559
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: getting ready for Yeah, you're a locker combination and all

560
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 5: you didn't want people in your face. You know, homework's

561
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: never and even then hard, you're just getting ready for

562
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Speaker 5: the next Monday to start, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, they're gonna be there, and they're gonna be there.

564
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Speaker 1: They're probably there now waiting on these guys. They want

565
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Speaker 1: to get all that on. They want to see the

566
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Speaker 1: first days. They want to see guys learning their locker combinations.

567
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Speaker 5: Oh okay, and then how long will it go to?

568
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Speaker 5: Probably like the last game, who the last game preseason game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the I know the first episode is

570
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Speaker 2: August fifth, so you know, they'll use whatever they gather

571
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Speaker 2: from the start of camp until then, you know, and

572
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: leave them enough time to edit it all down and

573
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Speaker 2: then get it up and running for August fifth for

574
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Speaker 2: the debut episode. And it's once a week, right, so

575
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Speaker 2: then they'll you know, they'll have stuff for the following week.

576
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Speaker 2: And yeah, they'll plow right through the preseason the whole thing.

577
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Speaker 2: Probably they include the cutdown day, which is August twenty

578
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: six this year.

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Speaker 1: Go right into week one of the regular season. That'll

580
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Speaker 1: be the final episode or something like that.

581
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Speaker 2: So That's how I would anticipate it going. But yeah,

582
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: they're going to gather as much as they can from

583
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Speaker 2: the very start of that whole thing. So yeah, they're

584
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Speaker 2: not waiting until the following week. They're getting the head

585
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: start on it, if anything, because they don't want to

586
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: miss anything. That's what they paid all that money for.

587
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: Let's go to Lewis in Rochester next.

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Speaker 6: What's up Lewis, Hey, gentlemen, great show as usual.

589
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Thanks.

590
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 6: I got a question when you said undisclosed injury for

591
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 6: one of the bills. Aren't they supposed to disclose? Isn't

592
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 6: that requirement?

593
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: Well, not at this time of year. Not at this

594
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: time of year. In the regular season, they absolutely do

595
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: for the injury reports, but there are no injury reports

596
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: this time of year now. I'm sure coach McDermott when

597
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: he addresses the media next Wednesday is going to be

598
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: asked about it and he'll probably tell you, tell everybody

599
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: what it is. We just don't have that access right now,

600
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: so we do not know the nature of land and

601
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Jackson's injury that has him on active pup.

602
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Speaker 4: Got it.

603
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Speaker 6: One work comment I'd like to make. I'm curious if

604
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Speaker 6: I believe that the Bills will make it to the

605
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Speaker 6: super Bowl. I'm not a bill stand but I believe

606
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 6: they're gonna make it this year as long as Alan

607
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 6: stays healthy. But I hope and pray for for Allan's

608
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 6: new life that nothing, you know, he doesn't take a

609
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: step back, because if he does, some people are gonna

610
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 6: blame his getting married as far as taking him down,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean they you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I mean that's kind of ridiculous, but.

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Speaker 6: It is ridiculous. But you know, there's gonna be some

614
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 6: fans that are gonna be, oh, man, if you wouldn't

615
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 6: have got married, we'd be winning the Super Bowl right now,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 6: he will, but I'm just saying if he does, isn't

618
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Speaker 6: a possibility.

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Speaker 2: All right? Fair enough, thanks Lewis. Yeah, I mean, look,

620
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Speaker 2: I understand there are always people that want to look

621
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Speaker 2: for scapegoats when things go wrong, but boy, you're really

622
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: taking a long walk on a short pier with that one.

623
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Speaker 1: So yeah, our a friend of the show, Kyle Brandt,

624
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: did an actual study on this. He went back and

625
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: pulled out a bunch of examples of guys who got

626
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: married early in their careers, are at one point of

627
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: there after they'd been playing for a minute, time and

628
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Speaker 1: time again. The examples were that the guy had a

629
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Speaker 1: career year right after he got married. Yeah, yeah, I

630
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: mean everybody from George Kittle all the way down through everybody.

631
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Speaker 2: And I'm I'm not here to get personal because that's,

632
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, that's Josh's personal business. But we have heard

633
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Speaker 2: him say publicly that she is his biggest supporter. And

634
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Speaker 2: I think there's that kind of step in your life.

635
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: They call it settling down for a reason, because you

636
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: feel like everything's kind of settled and calmed down to

637
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Speaker 2: a certain extent, Like you know, you're wondering if you're

638
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: gonna have a life partner. Now you got one.

639
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, Browdy Brandan and I were having marriage

640
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: conversations today right before the show. You it should help

641
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: you because now you got somebody to help you with

642
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: your own life, and you can help somebody with theirs.

643
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: That's why, that's the way it's supposed to work. So yeah,

644
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: usually you do get a bump, so you know, what

645
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? I'm we'll see, But he's right,

646
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: But the caller's right. Louis right. Yes, in this day

647
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: of so of social media and stuff. Yes, they blame

648
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: everything except the truth.

649
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: It's like a knee cherch react.

650
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: Yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be that person. It's that responsible, your fault.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. You're right, But hopefully we won't have

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Speaker 1: that conversation, so a might to that.

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Speaker 2: Eight O three five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty Those are the numbers to

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Speaker 2: jump on board with us with any question you have

657
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: on the Bills, the league, training camp coming up. Uh,

658
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: hard knocks. We just took a question, so yeah, lay

659
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Speaker 2: it honest if you got questions, happy to answer those.

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Speaker 2: Steve I saw on nfl dot com they listed the

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Speaker 2: top eleven teams with the most pressure on them for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and they listed the Bills in the

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Speaker 2: Ravens as tied for third. Now, looking at this list,

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Speaker 2: there were differing versions of the kind of pressure they

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Speaker 2: were describing. For example, Pittsburgh was first on the list,

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Speaker 2: and the pressure described therein was they haven't won. They've

667
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Speaker 2: been to the playoffs, but I haven't won a playoff

668
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Speaker 2: game in like six seven years, so there's pressure there,

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Speaker 2: you know, and they're doing it with patchwork parts, you know,

670
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Speaker 2: and declining Aaron Rodgers. Yes, they made the big trade

671
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Speaker 2: for DK Metcalf, but they also threw George Pickens overboard,

672
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Speaker 2: not Gie Harris isn't there anymore? You know, They've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of turnover. They get Jalen Ramsey, ship out,

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Speaker 2: Mike Minka Fitzpatrick. So they're doing a lot of changes

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Speaker 2: on the fly, knowing they've got to do better than

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Speaker 2: they have. So I get that pressure. The pressure that

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Speaker 2: they describe for the Ravens and the Bills is obviously

678
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Speaker 2: to vanquish the Patrick Mahomes Kansas City demon right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I guess from that standpoint, I understand. But I

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Speaker 2: think we we safely believe that the Ravens and Bills,

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Speaker 2: barring some unforeseen circumstance in which half of their roster

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Speaker 2: is injured, are going to be postseason competitors.

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Speaker 1: You're thinking those teams are going to have great And here.

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Speaker 2: I was perplexed by the use of the word pressure,

685
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Speaker 2: But I guess I get it.

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Speaker 1: When you get to the end of the sea, you're yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's I told Brownie, there's too many people in the

688
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: media these days. But you get to the end of

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Speaker 1: the season and getting there, all of a sudden becomes irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: Now it's about that game. It's about that game. It's

691
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: not about the pressure and on it's all about last year,

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Speaker 1: in the last the last six year years you've been at. No,

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Speaker 1: it's about this game today. Last year doesn't have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with it. The team three years ago, where

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00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: eighty percent of our roster was different and fifteen and

696
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Speaker 1: thirty percent of our coaching staff was different, has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with today. That pressure that you that thing

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Speaker 1: that happened, you know, like with Bills, fans wide right,

699
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Speaker 1: doesn't thirteen seconds, all of that stuff, the home run throwback,

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Speaker 1: go through the list, None of it matters on that day.

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Speaker 1: You gotta play. You gotta play well on that day.

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Speaker 1: None of that pressure is relevant. That's not That's not

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Speaker 1: what it's about. When you get there. It's all that's ridiculous,

704
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Speaker 1: and that means it's ridiculous now too, Yay. None of

705
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Speaker 1: that's shuff That stuff means anything. Dude.

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Speaker 2: Come on, maybe we gotta wear our shirts again.

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Speaker 1: You got to play well on that day and.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three five fifty won eighty eight, five, fifty

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Speaker 2: two fifty those the numbers to join us. Going to

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Speaker 2: go back to the phones here and joining us, there

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Speaker 2: is Tom on the west side. What do you got

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Speaker 2: for us? Tom?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I got to respond to Lewis. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't blame myself for Colin in the other day

717
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Speaker 4: and saying that I thought the rookie that was going

718
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Speaker 4: to exceed expectations would be Lannon Jackson. And as soon

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Speaker 4: as I said that, I find out he's going on

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Speaker 4: the puff list. You know, Yeah, I mean it is

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Speaker 4: what it is. You go out there, you say what

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Speaker 4: you say, you believe what you believe. And that's why

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Speaker 4: I was actually afraid to call in the rest of

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Speaker 4: the week and give you my other something to go

725
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Speaker 4: on the puff list. I ain't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully you don't have to worry too much

727
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Speaker 2: about it, Tom. Typically the active pup is for less

728
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Speaker 2: serious injuries. For example, say Levi on Wuzoique of the

729
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Speaker 2: Lions go on the reserve pup list. He can't play

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Speaker 2: until October. That's a long term, more serious injury. Active

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Speaker 2: pup as soon as you pass a physical, you're practicing again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's.

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Speaker 2: Typically in most cases a relatively.

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Speaker 1: Minor injury and also not for nothing.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping that's the case with We also got a.

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Speaker 1: Call from Kevin and Hamburg about, hey, hard Knocks, are

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Speaker 1: they gonna give him a couple of days before they

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Speaker 1: show up. They're unloading at Saint John Fisher today. We

739
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Speaker 1: just saw a thing coming across from actually from Channel

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Speaker 1: four here in Buffalo reporting in this show in the

741
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Speaker 1: trucks unloading all the gear for hard Knocks. They're they're

742
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Speaker 1: there today. So I jokingly said that they're probably already there.

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Speaker 2: There are they are so there it is. Got a

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Speaker 2: step aside, take a break here, but more of your

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Speaker 2: questions at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five point fifty on this

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Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mail bag. Any question you got, fire

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Speaker 2: it off at us. May check some of the questions

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Speaker 2: we got in the mail bag on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: side as well. When we return here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by KLIDA Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here on a Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: The OBL Friday fan mail bag is open. Any question

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Speaker 2: you got for us, fire away at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty Gonna dip into the mail bag on the

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Speaker 2: tweet sheet side, where Lauren asks with a mobile quarterback

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Speaker 2: such as Mahomes and Allen, is it more important to

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Speaker 2: have a solid foundation up the middle or on the outside.

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Speaker 2: And I'm assuming she's talking about offensive line here. Bills

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Speaker 2: have big investments in both offensive tackles, while the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: have big investments in center and guard. Love the show, guys,

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Speaker 2: that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at the wrong way, though, Lauren Olivia. Here's

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Speaker 1: how you get the best player at every position you

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Speaker 1: can possibly get, because a lot of those great players

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Speaker 1: that you really want to get aren't available to you

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Speaker 1: because they draft it, get drafted by somebody else, and

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Speaker 1: you don't ever get a chance to pick them. You

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Speaker 1: pay the offensive lineman who play well, whether they're guard,

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Speaker 1: center or wherever. You keep the good players, and you

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Speaker 1: keep trying to find the players at the other position.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the Chiefs have hit it because they've had

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to draft and acquire some really good interior guys,

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Speaker 1: so they pay them and they want to keep them.

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Speaker 1: Their tackles not so much. And they've had bad luck

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Speaker 1: with their tackles too, and they're not in control of

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Speaker 1: that either, right.

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Speaker 2: So they just drafted another.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you keep the players, you can keep the

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Speaker 1: good ones, and you get the best ones you can

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Speaker 1: every place else. And when you hit on those the

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Speaker 1: way it usually works, and you can kind of imagine,

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00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: finally we got us an offensive tackle. Awesome. Now both

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Speaker 1: guards retired, right, so you're back to square one, or

786
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Or you get in a place where you have a

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Speaker 2: player who's making top of the market money at their position,

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Speaker 2: and it forces you to diversify assets financially a little

790
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Speaker 2: bit differently across the rest of the offensive line. Joe

791
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Speaker 2: Tooney was making gigantic league leading money at the guard

792
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Speaker 2: position for them the last two or three years. When

793
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: they signed him to a market changing deal, well, it

794
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: got a little too rich for their blood, so they

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Speaker 2: traded him to Chicago and then signed the other guard,

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Speaker 2: Tray Smith, to a record setting contract at like twenty

797
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Speaker 2: three and a half million a year for a guard,

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Speaker 2: you know, and create Humphrey got a big second contract.

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Speaker 2: They're starting center now, they're hoping their draft picks. A

800
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Speaker 2: tackle can kind of help lift the edges of the line,

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Speaker 2: which have been a problem the last two years.

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Speaker 1: So it's not so much that it's a philosophical decision

803
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Speaker 1: by the Chiefs that are saying, hey, we're gonna draft it,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get these guys. We start from the inside

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Speaker 1: closest to the ball, and none of that. I mean,

806
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Speaker 1: they know what really good players and all these positions

807
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Speaker 1: looks like, and they're trying to get them in every position.

808
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: You pay the ones that really play well and they produce,

809
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Speaker 1: and if it happens to be your guards and center,

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Speaker 1: hey there you go.

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Speaker 2: Now, all that being said, mobile quarterbacks do help your

812
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Speaker 2: offensive line in most cases because of their elusiveness. They're

813
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Speaker 2: harder to sack, and so they sometimes will make an

814
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: offensive line look even better than they might actually be

815
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Speaker 2: in pass protection. I don't think that's the case with

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Speaker 2: the Bills because they're pretty much good. Left to right,

817
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: they are.

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Speaker 1: But also, Josh is impossible to sack unless he decides

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Speaker 1: to take.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he can have somebody hanging on him and

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Speaker 2: they can't sack him.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So, yes, mobile quarterbacks are help their

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Speaker 1: offensive line bad, offensive line can become average, Average can

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Speaker 1: become good, good can become great. The whole thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: because of a quarterback's ability to avoid a sack and

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Speaker 1: to make a play, Josh is obviously MVP level of

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Speaker 1: doing all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacob asks, historically, why do the Bills seem to

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Speaker 2: draft more running backs than other teams? From nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: seven to two thousand and seven, five picks at running

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Speaker 2: back in rounds one through three. Bean used four picks

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Speaker 2: on a running back in rounds one through four in

833
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Speaker 2: his eight drafts, only one running back plays at a time.

834
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Speaker 2: In the same eight years, Bean has only drafted two

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Speaker 2: wide receivers in rounds one through four. It's a valid question, Jacob,

836
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Speaker 2: because you're right, more receivers take the field of the

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Speaker 2: eleven that you put on the field than running backs.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, I get it. I think running back has

839
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Speaker 2: greater turnover because of the wear and tear on the players.

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Speaker 2: So in many cases, either because a player becomes too

841
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Speaker 2: expensive or too worn down that you need replacements in

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Speaker 2: the pipeline. I will say that while only one is

843
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: usually on the field at any one time, there's more

844
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Speaker 2: rotation at the running back position than maybe we have

845
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Speaker 2: ever seen in the history of the league. So that

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Speaker 2: might contribute to the preference to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think. So also, you got more one. It also

848
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Speaker 1: becomes about you pay. The drafting is one thing, but

849
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Speaker 1: you're right. Over the course of you know, ten picks

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Speaker 1: or ten years that you mentioned ninety seven to seven,

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Speaker 1: you also had a different regime and as had a

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Speaker 1: different owner who is an old school guy who liked

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Speaker 1: running backs. Ralph liked running backs. I'm not saying he

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Speaker 1: made the draft picks, but he certainly signed off on him.

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Speaker 1: It's a philosophical question, not so much about as much

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Speaker 1: about football as it is about economics and ease of replacement.

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Speaker 1: In the last five or six or seven years, wide

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Speaker 1: receivers have been plentiful in all the drafts of late,

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Speaker 1: which means if you're drafting guys, that means you have

860
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Speaker 1: only so much rue on your roster, and the guys

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Speaker 1: that were on your roster last year are available to

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Speaker 1: everybody else.

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Speaker 2: And if the particular draft is deep and wide receiver,

864
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: there isn't this pressure to address the position early. That's right,

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Speaker 2: and that's why you've seen I think more later round

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Speaker 2: picks at the receiver position than running back.

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Speaker 1: I get the question. It's a really good question, and

868
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that we can fully flesh out all

869
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: the reasons is why. Certainly there's got to be some

870
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: philosophical reasons that at the deep at its core, like

871
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: you value them more or whatever you have you know more.

872
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: But I think it has to do with economics. Wide

873
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: receivers make more and are a bigger money position than

874
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: running backs because we've talked about it with the James

875
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: Cook situation. They're easier to replace. The bills don't use

876
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: them in the same way as the teams might. They

877
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: certainly don't use their running backs the way Baltimore uses

878
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: THEIRS or San Francisco uses THEIRS. Even so, I think

879
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: when you get down to it, even in the draft,

880
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's this overarching philosophical thing. I think

881
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: it's who's the best player.

882
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I mean even if you just used

883
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: the history of ninety seven to two thousand and seven,

884
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: like he did with five said running back in rounds

885
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: one through three, you're talking. In ninety seven, they draft

886
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 2: Antoine Smith in the first round because Thurman was getting

887
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: on in years and he was near the end of

888
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 2: his career, they needed a new feature back. Think about

889
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: the kind of football you're playing back in nineteen ninety

890
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: seven as well, where you're running it a whole lot

891
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: more than you are now. So that's the reason for

892
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: that pick. And then I think they drafted Sean Brison

893
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: in ninety eight or ninety nine in the third or

894
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: fourth round as well. And then you have regime changes

895
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: and that sparks other draft picks like Willis McGahee in

896
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: the first round of the two thousand and three draft

897
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: by Tom Donaho. Well, then in two thousand and seven,

898
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: when Marv's the GM, you're drafting Marshawn Lynch in the

899
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: first round. It's regime change, coaching change, scheme change, and

900
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 2: necessitates positional player change.

901
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: And I say this too, I think more yet, it's

902
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: just easy to replace wide receivers that you look at

903
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: around right now. And I don't know what it was like.

904
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was like in ninety seven

905
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: to two thousand and seven, but man, oh man, there's

906
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: always a ton of wide receivers around free agent draft.

907
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: The whole thing. I think you don't have to go

908
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: high in the draft to get one of those guys

909
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: and if you do, he's special.

910
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but when we

911
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: come back, Pro Football Focus College and NFL analyst Dalton

912
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: Wasserman gonna join us. Has some interesting rankings lists and

913
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 2: an interesting spot for one Josh Allen on one of those,

914
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: we'll tell you it wasn't positioned one, two or three.

915
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: We'll explain with Dalton next here on One Bill's Live

916
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Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

917
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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Called lighta Health.

918
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Speaker 2: Second hour of a Friday edition to One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: first Round Seed Tasking with you and join now on

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00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: the line by Pro Football Focused College and NFL analyst

921
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: Dalton Washerman, who's joining us here and going to go

922
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: over a couple of the rankings list that he put

923
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Speaker 2: together in recent days on PFF dot com. And I

924
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: think the one that maybe opened our eyes the most

925
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: was his top fifty and that was not positioned specific

926
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Speaker 2: at all, which a lot of other outfits try to do,

927
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: which to me is a tougher task. Dalton, So glad

928
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 2: it was you and not me doing that. You had

929
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: Josh fifth, which might raise some eyebrows at least here

930
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. But I think the most interesting thing for

931
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: me was the Bills were listed as fifteenth in offensive

932
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: line grade last year. You know this, and I realized

933
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: this isn't the only statistic that you apply to O

934
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: line grading, but for a second year in a row,

935
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: few of sacks allowed. I think they were pretty good

936
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: on pass rush win rate, and as we know, they

937
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: were a heck of a rushing team. So I guess

938
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Speaker 2: my first question is can you just spell out the

939
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: offensive line grades and why the Bills wound up being

940
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: the middle of the pack team last year?

941
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

942
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 7: I think what you have is a unit that relies

943
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 7: more on its stability and continuity, as opposed to say,

944
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 7: a team like the Eagles, who are just loaded with stars.

945
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Right.

946
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 7: The closest thing to a superstar obviously is Dion Dawkins,

947
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 7: But the rest of the guys are, you know, somewhere

948
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 7: in the range of good enough to maybe solid starters, right.

949
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 7: You just don't have a ton of all stars there.

950
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 7: I think Ocyrus Torrens is definitely a guy who still

951
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 7: has a lot of room to improve on the inside.

952
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 7: So I think the best thing about this offense line

953
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 7: is the stability and continuity. They're one of the few

954
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 7: offensive lines bringing back all five starters this coming year.

955
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 7: But there's just a little bit lower of a ceiling

956
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 7: when you talk about compared to you know, aligned with

957
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 7: stars like Philadelphia or Denver, Atlanta or teams like that.

958
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 8: Right, so it is a very very solid unit.

959
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 7: You know exactly what you're getting out of them, but

960
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 7: the high end, maybe first team All Pro talent isn't

961
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 7: quite there like it is for some other teams.

962
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: And you got into the top fifty headed into this season,

963
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: top fifty percent. I get it. Sometimes, you know, these

964
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: conversations start with Mahomes and Allen and Lamar Jackson and

965
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow at quarterback and those are you know, those

966
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: are debates everybody has. The problem is and I want

967
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: to ask you how tough it is when you get

968
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: into a conversation with Micah Parsons compared to George Kittle.

969
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: You know which one which you know, tight end George

970
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: Kittle with an edge rusher in Dallas, right with Michah Parsons,

971
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: how do you elevate or you know, how what goes

972
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: into that mix compared you really are comparing apples to oranges.

973
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 7: It's incredibly tough, right, and you have to think about

974
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 7: things like dominance for the position, right, and I think

975
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 7: you know even something like offensive tackles. We have six

976
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 7: offensive tackles in our top twenty one players because they're

977
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 7: just such dominant players.

978
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: Right.

979
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 7: So when you're crossing over a guy like Parsons and

980
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 7: maybe somebody at another position, right, like a Fred Warner,

981
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 7: a Sauce Gardener, somebody like that, it really takes a

982
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 7: dig into the data and understanding the dominance at their

983
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 7: position and also taking a more longer term.

984
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 8: Approach with it.

985
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: Right.

986
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 7: This is all this list is not just based on

987
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 7: the guys twenty twenty four performances. Right, We're talking about

988
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 7: entire careers. We're talking about a guy like Chris Jones

989
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 7: with what a nine or ten year sample size. Now

990
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 7: you're talking about some guys like a Sauce Gardner. One

991
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 7: of the big debates you know, around the media with

992
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 7: this list is sauce Gardner being ahead of Patrick's Artan.

993
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 7: If you look at just twenty twenty four, yeah, you

994
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 7: probably go with Cirtan, But we have a three year

995
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 7: sample on Gardner that tells that our data tells us

996
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 7: that he's the best corner in the league. So it's

997
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 7: so hard, right when you got guys coming off one

998
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 7: or two great seasons, some of them are on five, six, seven, nine,

999
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 7: ten great seasons.

1000
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 8: A guy Trent Williams has been doing it forever.

1001
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: So the longer, the bigger sample size we have and

1002
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 7: the longer the track record is that does work to

1003
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 7: a guy's advantage when it comes to a ranking like this.

1004
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: I know you also kind of put together best offseason

1005
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: decisions team by team, and I know for the Bills

1006
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: you had using the draft to improve their defense, which

1007
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: I think was crying out as the draft closed in

1008
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: and Steve has often described it as scratching an itch

1009
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: that the fans had in terms of how to address

1010
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: the roster. So you know, four of their or five

1011
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: of their first six picks or defensive players, you know,

1012
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: including defensive lineman with picks two, three, and four, How uh,

1013
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: how much do you feel this team can benefit because

1014
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: I think there's no debate that the talent level has

1015
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: been increased on the defensive side of the ball, But

1016
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: that young talent has to learn pretty quickly if it's

1017
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: going to contribute the way maybe they need it to

1018
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: make a big jump in defensive performance this year.

1019
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, a lot of those guys I think are

1020
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 7: gonna get thrown right in the fire, right, and you're

1021
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 7: talking about a defensive line that's added a ton of depth,

1022
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 7: both in free agency and in the draft. So it

1023
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 7: looks like, aside from Greg Russo and Ed Oliver obviously

1024
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 7: the two highest paid guys, you're gonna get some really

1025
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 7: open competitions, and I think you're gonna get a lot

1026
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 7: of guys up front playing a lot of snaps. And

1027
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 7: then I think about somebody like Maxwell Harriston, who you

1028
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 7: figure is in line to start across from Christian Benford. Honestly,

1029
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 7: when you look at the performance, especially if those young players,

1030
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 7: and what they could get out of them, I think

1031
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 7: it's an X factor in the Bills championship hopes. Josh

1032
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 7: Allen and the offense. They're ready to win a title.

1033
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 7: They've been ready to win a title for three or

1034
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 7: four years now, right. Obviously there's head to head hurdles

1035
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: with the Chiefs or the Bengals are anybody else who

1036
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 7: can sling it with them, but they need to be

1037
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 7: able to make stops in big moments that I just

1038
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 7: like the fact that they focused on infusing that defense

1039
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 7: with young talent and Brandon being really committing to it,

1040
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 7: not just with the first round pick in Harriston, because

1041
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 7: he could have gone any other direction with several other picks,

1042
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 7: but keep hammering home talent on that defense. Throw as

1043
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 7: many darts at the wall at it as possible, and

1044
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 7: some percentage of it is going to stick.

1045
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 8: Right.

1046
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 7: You trust your scouting department, you trust your drafting skills,

1047
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 7: you trust your draft board. Some of them have to stick,

1048
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 7: some of them may not pan out, but the more

1049
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 7: resources you throw at it, the better chance he has.

1050
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 7: So I really think the performance of guys like Harriston,

1051
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 7: Landon Jackson, TJ. Sanders on the inside, it's a huge

1052
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 7: X factor in going from a team that makes the

1053
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 7: playoffs every year to a team that can win a championship.

1054
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Which one of the Bills players on their roster do

1055
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: you think is in a make or break year?

1056
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 7: I believe, honestly, and he's a veteran guy. I think

1057
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 7: it's for the success of the team. Matt Milano, right,

1058
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 7: He's had a lot of injuries the last couple of years.

1059
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 7: The Bills for US had the second lowest team coverage

1060
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 7: grade in the NFL only ahead of the Raiders. Their

1061
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 7: back seven was really the biggest problem. I look at

1062
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 7: Milano as a guy who at his peak, when he

1063
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 7: was healthy, was one of the elite coverage linebackers in

1064
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 7: the league. I think they're going to be pretty good

1065
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 7: at corner with Benford and Tarren Johnson still in the

1066
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 7: slot and then Harriston on the outside.

1067
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Speaker 8: Is a good system fit.

1068
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 7: But coverage over the middle of the field was their

1069
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 7: biggest problem last year, and I think it's twofold. The

1070
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 7: safeties really struggled as they wrote rotated through a lot

1071
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 7: of guys. But then I think Milano as the captain

1072
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 7: of the defense, the guy calling the shots in the middle,

1073
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: and the guy who was so good in coverage earlier

1074
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 7: in his career when he was healthy. If if you

1075
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 7: get one hundred percent season out of Matt Milano, one

1076
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: more like we got when he in his prime, I

1077
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 7: really twenty twenty two is a year I think about

1078
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 7: where he was just fantastic. If you got that level

1079
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 7: of Matt Mulano, you change the middle of this defense.

1080
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 7: It just makes everybody else's lives easier. But they have

1081
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 7: to get better in coverage over the middle. And that

1082
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 7: linebacker spot with him back for a full season is

1083
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 7: where I'm looking.

1084
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Speaker 2: And then with respect to the rest of the division,

1085
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we all feel like the Bills

1086
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: are still the class of the AFC East. I think

1087
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: we're expecting an uptick in the Patriots performance. Heck, they

1088
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: really can't go much further back, but Vrabel helps them,

1089
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: which you pointed out in a write up to JAT

1090
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: about their best offseason decision. Their offensive line still needs

1091
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: a lot of work, but I think a lot of

1092
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: people believe they're going to be a tougher out, you know,

1093
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: week to week. You know, they're not gonna be losing

1094
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: games by fifteen sixteen points. They're gonna be in nail

1095
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: biers a lot of the time. That's just how vverable coaches.

1096
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: But beyond that, I see you are just as worried,

1097
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: if not more worried than I am, that Miami's gonna

1098
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: implode this year, you know, selling off expensive veteran pieces,

1099
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: and then the Jets, you know, hitting the reset button again.

1100
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: But they feel it's going to be different this time

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00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: under Aaron Glenn. So maybe just handicap those three teams

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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: behind the Bills for me if you could based on

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: what you've seen from them this offseason.

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00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funky because you have three teams and kind

1105
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 7: of different stages of the rebuild.

1106
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 5: Right.

1107
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 7: You have the Jets who have reset the head coach

1108
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 7: and GM once again, and they're trying to figure out

1109
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 7: who their foundational players are. Obviously they have two of them,

1110
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 7: and Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner they just signed, but

1111
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 7: they're kind of in the beginning stages. I think this

1112
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 7: is really about a culture changing year with Aaron Glenn

1113
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 7: more than.

1114
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 8: Wins and losses. Right, Miami, I'm with you.

1115
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 7: I think that Jalen Ramsey John who's Smith Trade, I

1116
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 7: think all of that, to me was a long term

1117
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 7: vision of clearing out their salary cap for future seasons

1118
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 7: and the wins and losses.

1119
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 8: Obviously, they want to compete.

1120
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 7: They still have a highly paid quarterback and Tyreek Hill

1121
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 7: at receiver, although I'm not sure he's not the next

1122
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 7: one to go. But I think you look at some

1123
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 7: key flaws on their team, they're not really fixing them

1124
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 7: right now with major amounts of resources the offensive line,

1125
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 7: the secondary specifically, and they have to find a way

1126
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 7: to keep to a healthy, but I think they're starting

1127
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 7: to look at that with a more long term approach

1128
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 7: In New England, I do think they're going to be

1129
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 7: a lot better. And I know Drake made and his

1130
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 7: progress in the offensive line and all that will get

1131
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 7: the headlines, but I think they're really good on defense.

1132
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 7: When you look at all three layers of New England's defense,

1133
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 7: I actually think very quietly that could be a top

1134
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 7: ten unit in the NFL this year with what they

1135
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 7: added on the d line. With guys like Milton Williams,

1136
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 7: Robert Splane at linebacker, Carlton Davis at corner, they have

1137
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 7: a really solid three layer defense that I think is

1138
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 7: going to give a lot of teams problems. The offensive

1139
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 7: progress is going to be the difference in them being

1140
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 7: postseason contenders or not. But I think they're a dangerous

1141
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 7: team with Mike Frable and that defense.

1142
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: What are your ultimate expectations for the Bills and how

1143
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: the AFC Conference is gonna go. Certainly, the Chiefs, the Ravens,

1144
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: the Bills are in the conversation. Cincinnati is in and

1145
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: out of the conversation depending on how the start they

1146
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: get to the season and all the other things that

1147
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: are going on what are your thoughts and give me

1148
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: maybe a dark horse with the teams I didn't mention.

1149
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 7: I think what you have with the Bills is very

1150
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 7: similar to what we've had the last couple of years.

1151
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 7: I think we have to go into this season that

1152
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 7: they're one of the three best teams in the conference,

1153
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 7: them in Baltimore and Kansas City, right because I'm never

1154
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 7: gonna count out Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes no matter

1155
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 7: what everything else looks like on that team, right. But

1156
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 7: I think it really is that it comes down to

1157
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 7: that young talent and if they can gel it together

1158
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 7: better on defense, and really, with the Bills you have

1159
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 7: Josh Allen, there's no question they're getting to the playoffs.

1160
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 7: They are most likely winning the AFC East. They're going

1161
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 7: to give themselves another shot at it. And if you

1162
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 7: have number seventeen, you can win any game against any team, right,

1163
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 7: especially in Buffalo.

1164
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 8: But it's the defense.

1165
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 7: They just need to round this team off just a

1166
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 7: little bit more, if they can make stops when they

1167
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 7: really really need to, just one or two. I'm not

1168
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 7: even saying they need to have a top five defense.

1169
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 7: That team with the twelfth or thirteen's best defense in

1170
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 7: the NFL can win the whole thing. Absolutely, They just

1171
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 7: need to do enough in those big moments head to

1172
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 7: head against Mahomes, against Burrow, against Lamar. So I still

1173
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 7: think you're talking about those three being the three best

1174
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 7: teams in the AFC, and then you know there's a

1175
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 7: lot of dark horses. I think, you know, Houston if

1176
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 7: they can figure out their offensive line, the Chargers in

1177
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 7: what Jim Harbaugh is building there. I really love what

1178
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 7: they're doing there with Harbaugh and Justin Herbert and everything.

1179
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 8: And Denver.

1180
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 7: I think Denver really could take a step with their

1181
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 7: defense as well and what they've added. If Dray green

1182
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 7: Law especially is healthy this year and is back to

1183
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 7: being the Dray green Law we knew from San Francisco,

1184
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 7: they could have the best defense in football. And Bnix

1185
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 7: is very efficient. He's got great chemistry with Sean Payton

1186
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 7: to play calling. He's figuring out that system. I think

1187
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 7: a lot of the teams that we saw last year

1188
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 7: in that wildcard mix, I'm curious to see who takes

1189
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 7: that next step up. But I really like what Denver's

1190
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 7: got going on defense out there, too.

1191
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: And I see the AFC West out there. You've got

1192
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, who is an already established Hall of Fame

1193
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: caliber head coach. You got Pete Carroll who is widely

1194
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: respected around the National Football League, Jim Harball who has

1195
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: won at every level of football you can name, and

1196
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: of course Sean Payton, who is a Super Bowl winning

1197
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: quarterback when he was with New Orleans. Is anybody in

1198
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: the West or how close are they toward being having

1199
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: a different champion come out of the West than Kansas City.

1200
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 7: They're close, Honestly, they were close last year. And you

1201
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 7: just look at all the one score games that the

1202
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 7: Chiefs put together when they play. When those teams play

1203
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 7: the Chiefs head to head, so often, those games are

1204
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 7: extremely close, and they just can't make that one stop

1205
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 7: against Mahomes when they need to. Right, So, I think

1206
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 7: what you have there is a situation where, look, I'm

1207
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 7: still gonna pick the Chiefs to win the West. It's

1208
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 7: like the Patriots of old right with Brady and Belichick.

1209
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 7: You pick them until they don't do it. That's really

1210
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 7: I believe that's how it works. So I'm gonna pick

1211
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 7: the Chiefs to win the division again. But the gap

1212
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 7: is closing those other teams, even the Raiders, their defense

1213
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 7: isn't quite ready to be on that level of contention yet,

1214
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 7: but they're gonna have a dangerous offense with Gino Smith

1215
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 7: and Ashton Gentzy and everything they've added in Pete Carroll

1216
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 7: with the respectability. But the gap is close, and it's

1217
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 7: really for those teams like it used to be with

1218
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 7: the Patriots.

1219
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 8: Right, remember what it used to before, Josh Allen.

1220
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 7: It used to feel like a miracle when the Bills

1221
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: beat the Patriots or when the Jets beat the Patriots. Right,

1222
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 7: we go years without doing it, and you have that

1223
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 7: same thing out West with the Chiefs.

1224
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: Right.

1225
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 7: They're winning on block field goals and fluky plays and

1226
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 7: maybe a referee.

1227
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 8: Thing, but they still find a way to get it done.

1228
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 7: If you're going to take over the division from the Chiefs,

1229
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 7: you got to find a way to beat him in

1230
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 7: those close games.

1231
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: Dalton, thanks for the time, and enjoy what's left to

1232
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 2: your summer and we'll catch up with you have further

1233
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: way down the season here.

1234
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 7: Absolutely appreciate you guys. We'll do it again some time,

1235
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 7: all right, Thanks Dalton.

1236
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: Wasserman joining US Pro Football focused college and NFL analyst

1237
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: also co hosted the PFF College Football show and the

1238
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: PFF NFL podcast. So yeah, I like that he threw

1239
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: in the refs with like Kansas City has been so recessful.

1240
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: Appreciate him doing that. We've all witnessed it, right, It's

1241
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: not like we're talking out of school. Everybody's seen it.

1242
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: It was not visuals have been fired over it.

1243
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: That's original thought, that's for sure.

1244
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm glad there's a group think on that.

1245
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying is well, there you go. Yes,

1246
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: it's a healthy thing in that particular case. Eight eight

1247
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1248
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: two five fifty. If you've got a question on the

1249
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: Bills training camp, the league, the preseason, what's coming up

1250
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: in the regular season, anything on your mind, today is

1251
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: the day to do it. Because it's the OBL Friday

1252
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: fan Mailbag edition of One Bill's Live. We are going

1253
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: to jump back into the questions on the Twitter side

1254
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: of things, where Merlin asks, how come we don't hear

1255
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: about NFL ref's training camp, who is promoted demoted? How

1256
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: do they recruit and if they go over all the

1257
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: bad calls from the previous season, when do they find

1258
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: out what games they ref for? The season, et cetera.

1259
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: So interesting. We were just talking about the refs here.

1260
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: When refs get let go or demoted, it's very hush

1261
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: hush because I think the last thing the league wants

1262
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: is people fans mainly feeling like, you know, I was

1263
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: mad about that guy in that game over there, and

1264
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: look they I was right. They demoted it.

1265
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: That's right.

1266
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: They don't want any of that. They don't want to

1267
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: fan flames on that, so they keep it very quiet.

1268
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: But you know, we've kind of heard through the grapevine

1269
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: the three or four officials got removed completely from the

1270
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: NFL rank.

1271
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: And they and I'll say this too, everybody thinks about no,

1272
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: there's no there's no reponscussions, there's there's no accountability. And

1273
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: don't fool yourself that the NFL takes it extremely seriously.

1274
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: They critique every officiating crew every single week, every single

1275
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: call they official. They go over every call that the

1276
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: officials make, They go every over every call that they

1277
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: should have made. The teams put together report for the

1278
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: league every week about calls. They question that were non

1279
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: calls calls or why was this called? Why wasn't this called?

1280
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: Why is it? Why is it called here, not that

1281
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: all the inconsistencies, All of it is fleshed out during

1282
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: the week to a large degree, and they take it

1283
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: very seriously. But it is they do. They don't promote

1284
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: it and they don't publicize it at all, but they

1285
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: do take great strides towards getting it right. And like

1286
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: like I've said before, on a number of occasions, the

1287
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: league gets just about every single issue that faces it correct.

1288
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just takes longer than others, and it always

1289
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: takes longer than we wish, right, So, but that's they

1290
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: are always attacking it and trying to get it better.

1291
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: And a lot of NFL officials are recruited from the

1292
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: college ranks. You know, you work at the high school

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Speaker 2: level to the college level to the pro level. It's

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Speaker 2: similar to the path of a player that's good enough

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Speaker 2: to play in the professional ranks. If an official is good,

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Speaker 2: you know to and they're doing a heck of a

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Speaker 2: job in major college football, they're going to earn consideration

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Speaker 2: for the profess ranks.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Steve Freeman was a former

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill played here for a decade, was here just

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of my career in nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 1: played for ten or eleven years, was a really good

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: free safety and he ended up being an NFL official

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: in the back end of the defense, like a field

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Speaker 1: judge or something like that, and I can't remember exactly.

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Speaker 1: His son also did a back judge, so he knew

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Speaker 1: what he was looking at on a football field because

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: he was a player, and he got all the way

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01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: towards I think he actually even did one of the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. So they come from all walks of life, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and more and more of them. And I know this

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Speaker 1: is going to come up to because people always say it,

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01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, they should have full time officials, so they do.

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Speaker 1: They're getting more and more full time guys on with

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Speaker 1: the NFL than ever and they will probably continue to

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Speaker 1: do that, and sooner or later those guys will be

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Speaker 1: full time for sure.

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Speaker 2: And as most fans are aware, a lot of these

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Speaker 2: guys are at training camps so they can ramp up

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Speaker 2: for the season just like the players are, you know, practices,

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Speaker 2: team periods and then obviously the preseason games.

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Speaker 1: So and the club pays to bring those guys in

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, come in, help us practice, help us

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Speaker 1: hone our skills and get us, you know, give us

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: some live feedback as to whether we're doing right and

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Speaker 1: wrong technique wise and all that.

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Speaker 2: And in turn, they will educate the players and coaches

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Speaker 2: on rule changes, what are points of emphasis for the

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: upcoming year, so that the coaches and the players are

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01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 2: prepared for things that are going to be watched more

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: closely in a given year or changed, and how they

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Speaker 2: might be called.

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Speaker 1: So it's a standard an item on the every agenda

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Speaker 1: of every training camp. It's a standard scheduled meeting where

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Speaker 1: every evening the team gets together and the coach says

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Speaker 1: something and they break down into their regular meets. They

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: go over the film and the practice, they get you know,

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Speaker 1: they meet and talk about the day's events. Well, one

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Speaker 1: of the agenda items for every NFL camp is League

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: of Officials referees. They all come in, or one of

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01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: them will come in, a couple of them will come in,

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01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: and they'll stand in front of the team and say, okay, guys,

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01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: here's the rule changes. Here's what it's going to look like.

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: Last year, we let you do this and this and

1345
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: this and this was going on. Now this and this

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: is illegal. You can't do this, And they'll show you

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: they'll show you example after example after example of the

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: new rule and will it be called or won't it

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: be called, And so it gets baked into your psych

1350
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: about what's going to be allowed that's different this year

1351
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: than it was last year, and it's and everybody's sitting

1352
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: in the room watching. They do that every single year

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01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: at every training camp, and it's it's like clockwork. And

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Speaker 1: so as the game evolves, the league tries to do

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01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: its best to educate the players. They tell you why

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01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: they change the rule, what they're getting, what they expect

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: the game to look like after it's changed, all of

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: that stuff. Some of it's player safety, some of us

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: just they want to change for whatever administrative reason. It's

1360
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Speaker 1: easier for the officials to call and make more consistent calls.

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Speaker 1: They're going to tweak the rule because now the official

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: can make this call and it's exactly like all the

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: rest of the calls in that genre and instead of

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Speaker 1: having this one exception. It's stuff like that. Some of

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Speaker 1: it's very very subtle, some of it's very very it's

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01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: in minutia, but it helps. It helps.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside, take a break here, but

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Speaker 2: we're still taking your phone calls at eight three h

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 2: fifty On this obl Friday Fan Mailbag edition of One

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Speaker 2: ice Cream Bars near you today. The chocolate on those

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01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: things has got to be like a quarter inch thick

1382
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 2: like it. They're not joking. You got to really crunch

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: into that thing to get to the ice creams.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: Nothing like good ice cream If I don't know if

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01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: there's bad ice cream out there, I don't have it

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01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: very often. I've never had it.

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Speaker 2: But have you ever watched on the History Channel the

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01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: food that built America? You ever watched it?

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Speaker 1: I know it, but no, I I.

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01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: Love that show. Do you oh some of the stories,

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: you know, how the companies came to be and stuff.

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01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: It's really it's a cool it's like a cool part

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01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: of American history, you know, it's really it's eat. And

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Speaker 2: they were talking about the person that invented the ice

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01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: cream bar, which was actually a famous candy maker name.

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Speaker 2: I won't say it here because they're not paying us,

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: but the guy was like a chemist and his wife

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01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: was a candy maker. So they work together and some

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Speaker 2: guy comes to them with an idea like, hey, what

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Speaker 2: if we take a block of ice cream and covered

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Speaker 2: in chocolate and making an ice cream bar. Well, the

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Speaker 2: problem is the melting point of regular chocolate was too high,

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: and so every time they try to coat the ice

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: cream bar, they could be left from a bucket.

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: Of mush Yeah, the ice cream with melt.

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01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they came up with a different chemistry to

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01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: find a lower melting point for the recipe of chocolate.

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: They came up with to create the modern day ice

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01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: cream bar. Like, it's those kinds of things that I

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: think are really neat, you know, I don't know.

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: I find it. I'm totally with you.

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm totally nerding out on food.

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01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: I like to eat just like everybody else.

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01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I are big time foodies. So you

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: should watch it. Sometimes you got a half an hour

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 2: to get out all that stuff on.

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: There streaming service or something.

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01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: We've got to ask you if you have any stuff

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01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: for us Friday obl mailbag and any question you have

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01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: about the Bills, the NFL training camp, etc.

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01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: Etc.

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Speaker 2: Lay it on us. And we have some questions that

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: were sent to us on the tweet sheet, and this

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01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,520
Speaker 2: one from Bob says, I know most of the storylines

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01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: are based around how the rookies and free agents signed

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01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: will impact the Bills need to improve on the defensive

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Speaker 2: side of the ball. My concentration is on how much

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: more Ryan Nielsen and Jason Rebrevich can get out of

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: the defensive line pass rush, which will help the linebackers

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: and dbs in run support and coverage. Do you think

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01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: this is a one year stint for them or more

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01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: of a longer term deal. Well, I don't think it's

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01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: an accident. And you'll see this if you go to

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: training camp on the practice field that there are three

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: defensive coaches working with the defensive lineman. It's senior defensive

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 2: assistant Ryan Nielsen, it's defensive line coach Marcus West, and

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01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: its assistant defensive line coach Jason Rebrovich. All three are

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Speaker 2: working with the defensive lineman. I think that's for a

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: couple of reasons. One, the amount of youth in that group.

1440
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 2: I think they have more people coaching that position to

1441
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: provide more individualized attention where it's needed.

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: And look, what.

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Speaker 2: Do we hear coach McDermott say all the time after

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01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: many games, it starts up front and they need the

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: defensive front to get better as fast as possible. So

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01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: as long as everybody's reading from the same hymnal as

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01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: they say, more can be better in this case, as

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: long as the coaching techniques and the approach are the

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: same from one coach to the next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And whether it's a one year deal or a

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01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: long term deal, that probably depends on the production and

1452
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: how happy they are with what's going on. The coaches

1453
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: are notoriously I don't know, like all the time, but

1454
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: in short leash in this day and age of the

1455
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: pro football. Way back in the day, coaches you know,

1456
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: and you still hear about it today when Parcels wentneywhere

1457
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,480
Speaker 1: Belichick was going with him, right, and it happens everywhere.

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: It's like that. It's a little different nowadays because guys

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01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: build resumes by and they go transient. Yeah, it's a

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: little more transient and a little more cross pollination between

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01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: this staff and your staff, and you know this guy

1462
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: and he knows that guy is a little less of that,

1463
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: and there's a little bit higher expectation on listen, I'll

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: bring you in, but if you don't do the job,

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: you're out. Kind of an atmosphere. So, however long those

1466
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,879
Speaker 1: contracts are, the head coach has to lif your production

1467
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: or you're not going to be there very long, whether

1468
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: your contract says you are or not ed.

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Speaker 2: Asks what might be a training camp storyline or two

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Speaker 2: not already discussed, I'll throw one out there. I think

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: that there is a new what's the best way to

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: describe this. I don't think it was necessarily revamped, but

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: I think there's a new outlook on special teams for

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Speaker 2: this club. You've got a veteran special teams coordinator and

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: Chris Taber, who I think is going to equip this

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01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: unit with an x's and O edge in that phase

1477
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: of the game that we have not seen in quite

1478
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: some time. So maybe even going all the way back

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: to the Bobby April days, I think he is got

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: a wealth of experience that can put the Bills hopefully

1481
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: in a position to create a competitive edge in that

1482
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: phase of the game, particularly cover and return units. And

1483
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: they've made investments at that position. They traded for Brandon

1484
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: Codrington last year, they signed Laviska Shenault in free agency

1485
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: this year, and even some of their later round picks

1486
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 2: have special teams experience, like a Dorian Strong for example,

1487
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: out of Virginia Tech. So I think that's a storyline

1488
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: that's not really being discussed. Everybody's talked all off season

1489
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: about how much the defense needs to improve. You know

1490
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: who also needed to improve special teams. Special teams was

1491
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 2: deficient in several areas. We know the handful of instances

1492
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years that have hurt the team.

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: You know, whether it's I mean, think about it, you

1494
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: had a block field goal in the playoff win over Pittsburgh.

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01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: Well over the last couple of years, you had a

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: block field goal to lose a game. No, you had

1497
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: twelve men on the field to lose.

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01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: Lose a game. Brandon Codrington doesn't get the memo to

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 2: field absolutely feel the punt at the end of the

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 2: game against the Rams down to two points in the

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01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: end zone. He lets it bounce and the clock runs

1502
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: out and the offense doesn't get back on the field

1503
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 2: for a hill Mary play right.

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Speaker 1: Not that that would have made the big difference, but

1505
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: you got to hit on those cylinders. You got to

1506
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: give yourself a chance. You got to do what you're

1507
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: supposed to do, even if the odds are long. They

1508
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: also brought in Turner West as the assistant special teams coach,

1509
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: so that whole staff is different and there'll be a

1510
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: different vibe on it. I am, I'm a little league.

1511
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: I think that's a non discussed storyline for.

1512
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: The most part. I say so, well, yeah, I mean

1513
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: coaching matters. You just changed it. Twenty percent of the

1514
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: number of snaps in this game are going to be

1515
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: coached by a completely different staff. Twenty percent. So that's

1516
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: that's state. It's not nothing, and it's you know, special

1517
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: teams is the only time you did deliberately give the

1518
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: ball to your opponent with a punter A kickoff number

1519
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: two wild swings by design in field position are dictated

1520
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: by your special teams, uh. And it's or you win

1521
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: or lose a game if you make the kick or

1522
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: block the kick. So those three aspects you know, the

1523
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: field position, the changeover, and the points.

1524
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1525
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: It's that's why the twenty percent of the snaps and

1526
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: special teams are considered a full third of the game

1527
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: is because of the of what they mean, the meaning

1528
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: they have.

1529
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that you are going to

1530
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: have a new punter this year as well. Yeah, so

1531
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: whether it's Brad Robs.

1532
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: It's a great point by you, Brownie, that that's probably

1533
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 1: the phase of the game that's going to enjoy the

1534
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: biggest change, uh in coaching, players, personnel, the whole thing.

1535
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see. And I'll say this too. Leviscus Chaneault

1536
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: has played for Chris Tabor, Brandon Codrington has not. When

1537
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: a coach comes in, the head coach says what do

1538
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: you think? And he says, I like this kid. I

1539
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: don't know if he's good, but I know I got

1540
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: another guy that I like. And so if this guy's

1541
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: not doesn't be good, I know I got a guy

1542
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: here on the roster. I can you know what I mean.

1543
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of that going on. Players coaches

1544
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: bring in players and keep players they trust, or even

1545
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: if they they have a certain level of trust, they

1546
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: know them. Certainty is out the window in football. So

1547
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: if you do have a player you're certain about, yes,

1548
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: he stays usually So there's a lot of that going

1549
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: on as well. I think Leviskus Chanel as good a

1550
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: year as Brandon Codrington had. I thought he was great,

1551
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: made a lot of good decisions. Uh, Leviscus Chanel's brought

1552
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: in for competition.

1553
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vince on the tweetsheet asks with Joey Bosa and

1554
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson's health being less than desirable and Hoyden ogen

1555
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: Joby's services on the shelf for six weeks of the

1556
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: talent remaining in the d line room, who has the

1557
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: best opportunity to make a statement that they belong on

1558
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. As we said earlier, when

1559
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: a player goes on active pup it typically is not

1560
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: a long term injury because they still count towards a

1561
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: roster spot. They just have to pass the physical to

1562
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: start practicing again. So I don't know that Landon Jackson

1563
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: is gonna an appreciable amount of time. Joey Bosa was

1564
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: supposed to be ready at the start of training camp.

1565
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: We'll see if that proves to be the case come

1566
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: next Wednesday. But your point, I get your point. You

1567
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 2: know you know you're gonna be down Hoyt and Ogan Jobi.

1568
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: You're worried that, you know, Jackson and Bosa could be

1569
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 2: compromised as well. So who's next in line? You got

1570
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:25,440
Speaker 2: the two holdovers from last year in Epanessa and Rousseau.

1571
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon's here in his second year. You know you

1572
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: can run down the list from there.

1573
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: I think Javon Solomon is probably the guy you're looking

1574
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: at saying he's gonna benefit from it because of the

1575
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: pressure of Joey Bosa, land and Jackson being sidelined for

1576
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: a minute and Hoyt sitting down.

1577
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean, there is a couple. There are a couple

1578
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 2: of undrafted players there too. Hayden Harris is an interesting

1579
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: prospect six', five two fifty, five had trouble getting on

1580
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: the field AT ucla for an appreciable amount of. Time

1581
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: transfers TO i want to say It's montana as a

1582
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: grad student player and tears it, up had like an

1583
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: eight and a half or nine sack season and got

1584
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: on the. Radar he has physical. Tools what he can

1585
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: do with them remains to be. Seen and Then Paris

1586
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: shand was the guy that we're standing out, there And Steve,

1587
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: goes who's fifty, nine because the guy's put, together he's

1588
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: got AN nfl body. Already how does he? Play we'll

1589
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: find out when they're in. Pads it's very hard to judge,

1590
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: linemen both offensive and, defensive when you're not in pads

1591
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: because the game is completely different for. Them they're barely

1592
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: even making contact in the, spring so it's very hard

1593
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: to assess a player's game. There we'll see if either

1594
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 2: of those guys have anything when we get to training

1595
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: camp and the pads go, on which usually happens in day.

1596
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: Six, yeah but it's, ice you. Know in this week's

1597
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,440
Speaker 1: Pod bills by The, numbers we ADD i think the defensive.

1598
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: Front that rotation of the defensive line is gonna be

1599
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: an absolute mess trying to figure out and sort through

1600
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: with With hoyt And ogunjobi being, suspended With Landon jackson

1601
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: being on, popped although he may practice day One Print Training.

1602
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Cup we don't know with all of those guys in, There,

1603
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: bosa the mix all, that and you don't know. Who

1604
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,759
Speaker 1: you really don't know Who Dwayne, CARTER Tj, Sanders Dion,

1605
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: walker all of these, guys these young, guys even though

1606
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: they've Had carter for a, year you don't know what

1607
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna play like with all these other. Guys and

1608
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: that's combinations and the rotational philosophy that they have, ANYWAY i,

1609
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: mean it's a huge jigsaw puzzle they got to put

1610
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: together right of the course of those.

1611
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: Weeks there's a balance that the defensive staff has to

1612
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: strike here in training. Camp and that balance, is even

1613
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: though they're veteran, players Get hoyt And Ogin jobey not

1614
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: only comfortable within how the system, functions but with the

1615
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: players they will presumably be playing off of when they get,

1616
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: back because when they're, suspended they can't even practice with the.

1617
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: Team they can come BACK i think one or two, weeks.

1618
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: One or two weeks before the suspension is. Over so

1619
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: the first four for the first six weeks that they're on,

1620
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: suspension they're not even in the building Right so they

1621
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: have to get those guys schooled up at least to

1622
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: a certain degree where they're not starting from scratch when

1623
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 2: they get back in a, month while at the same

1624
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 2: time getting guys that are probably going to play in

1625
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: their absence ready to play for week One like that

1626
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: is a juggling act to get the reps right for both.

1627
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: Parties it's a big. Problem and there's a ton of new.

1628
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Faces uh, certainly And brownie has said, It Rousseau epanessa

1629
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: and then you Got ed and Day Kwon. Jones those

1630
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: four guys played together last, year went through a couple of.

1631
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: Seasons now you know they those guys all know each.

1632
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 1: Other so you got four guys you can line up and.

1633
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: Play but with this rotational, philosophy what happens if those

1634
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: FOUR i just, Mentioned what If Landon jackson turns out

1635
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: to be a better combination with those guys THAN aj you,

1636
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: know and what if you know what If Dion walker comes,

1637
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: In they, go, man this guy's really good and they

1638
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: want to Sit daykon down Or ed, down, whatever take your,

1639
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: pick and they want to try. That, well they got

1640
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: like five reps to give that a, shot, RIGHT i,

1641
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: mean because they got all these other guys in.

1642
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: A preseason, game you. Know, yeah we have seen veterans

1643
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: starters playing time diminish. Considerably even In. Buffalo there's other

1644
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: teams that don't even, dress you, know a ten year

1645
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,480
Speaker 2: vet like a Day Kwon jones at all in the. Preseason,

1646
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: right The bills have a little bit different philosophy in that.

1647
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: Area but, yeah your point is well. Taken you have

1648
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: a limited amount of time and a limited amount of

1649
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: reps to get a whole boatload of people that number

1650
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: seventeen in total plan four positions over the course of

1651
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: training camp in the. Preseason it's not an easy task

1652
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: while getting enough time on the field to properly evaluate

1653
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: them with different. COMBINATIONS i, mean it gets the permutations,

1654
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 2: get you, know too many to count pretty. Quickly got

1655
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: to take a. Break here more of your questions both

1656
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: on the phones and on THE Obl friday fan mail bag.

1657
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: Tweetsheet we'll get to those when we return here On

1658
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: One Bill's, live presented By Collide, Health It's Buffalo Bill's.

1659
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: Radio back here On One Bill's, Live Chris Brown steve

1660
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: to ask you some final questions from the mail bag for,

1661
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: you and this one comes From. Nathan do the players

1662
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 2: have the playbook to study before they arrive At Camp

1663
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: nathan from The West side now In Fort. Lauderdale, yes they.

1664
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: Do as a matter of, fact they've had it since the.

1665
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: SPRING i mean the rookies come in from any, camp

1666
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: here's your, tablet get. Studying so, yeah they've had it

1667
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: in front of them long before they get to training.

1668
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,759
Speaker 2: Camp it's also one of the reasons that rookies report

1669
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,839
Speaker 2: a week early because they want to get those guys

1670
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 2: reacclimated from applying it from their tablet to the field

1671
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 2: so that when they hit the ground running day one of,

1672
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: camp they're ready and they're not.

1673
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,560
Speaker 1: Lost most teams also they install the playbook a couple

1674
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: of different, ways because there's different ways to learn, information,

1675
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: right everybody. Has everybody acquires information in different. Ways some

1676
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: are visual, learners like you watch it on film and you,

1677
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: say this is how you run the play and it's Got,

1678
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: OH i get. It some guys you look at the

1679
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: the look at the lines and x's and o's on

1680
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: the papers like, oh, OKAY i see what you. Mean

1681
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 1: and others they got to walk through.

1682
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: It they're.

1683
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Physical they're physical. Learners they walk through and, stuff and

1684
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: the club makes you teach them all of those they

1685
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: teach them the same play all of those, ways every

1686
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: way you can possibly they tell, them they show, them

1687
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: they let them walk through, it they let them read,

1688
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: it the whole. Thing so that's what they spend their

1689
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: time doing here in the building when they're going to.

1690
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: Meetings so you always think of a meeting you're sitting

1691
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: around a conference. Table it's not exactly how it. Works

1692
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: usually you're sitting in front of a, film a movie,

1693
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: screen and they're showing you, film a tape or film of,

1694
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: games and they should this is and they'll call the.

1695
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: Play so this is what it looks. Like this is

1696
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: what we're gonna call and we'll call this in this

1697
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: situation da da da da. Dah and if you're playing THE,

1698
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: x you gotta remember to do this and. Now so

1699
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: it's it's, complicated and but they've got it down to

1700
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: a science of how to teach. It and the players

1701
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,839
Speaker 1: are used to learning stuff like, this and the concepts

1702
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: are kind of universal in some. Respects the reads and

1703
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: adjustments are, not and the words are. Different so it's

1704
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: it is a learning, curve no. Question but that's what

1705
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: these guys do for a. Profession that's they teach coaches. Teach,

1706
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: yeah that's all it. Is that's that's what they do

1707
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: for a.

1708
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: Living sarah, asks when do you guys arrive at training.

1709
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: Camp are there any comforts from home that you've learned

1710
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: to bring with? You video, game fishing, pole your own coffee,

1711
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: pot or mini. Fridge they do take pretty good care

1712
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 2: of us out of training. Camp each of our dorm

1713
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: rooms are equipped with a mini fridge and a, television

1714
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: which is good Because i'm you, know If i'm there,

1715
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: Overnight i'm usually WATCHING i got A yankee game on

1716
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: While i'm finishing up some work or. Something and, now

1717
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: LIKE i would, say the only thing we might bring

1718
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: up there is a set of golf clubs in case

1719
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 2: after the work day is, done we got time to.

1720
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: PLAY i stopped going to training, camp up staying over

1721
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: at training.

1722
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: Can steve goes up and, BACK i go up him

1723
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: back every.

1724
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: DAY i stopped. THAT i don't twenty eight years.

1725
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: Ago, YEAH i don't stay overnight a tremendous amount of the,

1726
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: time BUT i will. STAY i never not nearly as

1727
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: much AS i used, to almost wired to.

1728
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: WIRE i don't like. IT i don't like.

1729
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: It, Steven steve's done with dorm he's done with dorm.

1730
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 2: LIMIT i get. It it's. FINE i got to think about.

1731
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: THAT i might have to ask somebody if there's some

1732
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: fishing holes up there for me to. Hit might have

1733
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: to bring my fishing pole IF i get time in the,

1734
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Evening Lake.

1735
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Ontario, Forgot well that's a little bit. Further you're the

1736
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: voice of. Someone will take you out in a row.

1737
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Boat let you throw ane in the. Water that's it

1738
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: for this.

1739
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 2: WEEK i have a great. Weekend everybody will see you On.

1740
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: Monday