WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 21 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:12.119 It is Thursday May. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:19.560 now America's raining Animal Crossing Champion Jay Peace. I have 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.120 no idea what that means, but welcome into Jaguars Happy 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.720 Hours Thursday May twenty one. J P. Shaddick from the 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:35.920 Palatial Home Studio Side Sports Extra Room. Yet again, we're 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.440 two months in and it could be a little longer 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.320 while we're doing the show here. We've got plenty of 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.440 show ahead today. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockman coming up shortly. 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.680 Senior writer John Osier will break down his podcast this 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.760 week featuring Paul pas Leslie a little bit more, and 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.320 we'll hear from CBS Sports play by play announcer i 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.720 An Eagle. He's also the Thursday night football announcer on 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.920 West with One with Tony Boselli. He is also an 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.720 announcer for the NBA on T n T. He is 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.120 also an announcer for the Brooklyn Nets on television, so 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.040 he has a multi faceted approach to what's going on 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.160 right now, NBA, NFL, Radio, TV. All the rest will 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.479 here from Iron coming up. So a good show coming 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.760 up today. Glad you have chosen to join us on 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.400 Tinton a m in Jacksonville and on the Jaguars social 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.800 media channels. The podcast archive coming up a little bit 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.720 later as well. Let's go to the phone line and 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.440 welcome in our co host, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghuman. Good afternoon, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.120 Jeff KP. It's like Iron the Eagle, inc. That'd be 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.119 the best way to call him, right, pretty much, He's everywhere. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.040 That's the way it's supposed to be, right. I build 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.720 the brand, and the brand keeps building, you know. Yeah, 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.840 he's he's uh, he's a good guy too, you know. Um, 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.800 you know, we we get to come across a lot 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.560 of guys in the business that are broadcast stirs, are 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.800 in the sporting industry, and and uh, he's put of 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.160 my favorite guys down earth. Works hard and has earned 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.280 everything that he's gotten and and deservedly. So he's a 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.760 very talented guy. Well here from my ant coming up obviously, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.960 but I was looking through his bio and stuff the 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.040 last couple of days, and um, I've done it for 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.600 a while obviously, but I didn't realize he's been doing 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:26.160 NFL game since that's a long time. When I was playing, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.480 I mean when he you know, he was in New 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.520 York when I was up there, and so I mean 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.880 me and him crossed pass Gosh years ago. And uh 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.440 and then obviously, uh he made his name in the 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.120 NFL is kind of where he got started in New 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.880 York is kind of where he really cut his teeth. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.880 And uh. But good dude, you know, you root for 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.880 guys like that, and uh, he's gonna be around for 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.600 many years to come, you know. I mean, at some 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.040 point somebody's got to replace the Jim Nance and the 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.600 and the al Michael's, right, I mean, and he's positioning 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.760 himself to be that guy. He's knocking on the door 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:03.560 for sure. Lot going on logs, Let's uh, let's talk 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.040 a little ball. You know, I don't even know if 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.400 it's really talking ball right now. There's not a lot 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.440 of ball to be talked about these days, obviously with 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:16.080 the everything going virtual. But um, yeah, I guess the 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:20.960 next big thing for the organization is Phase one opening 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.919 of the facility that's coming up. They could start it, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.239 you know, last it could have started this week, but 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.120 the Jaguars have waited until May six to start Phase 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.200 one opening. It's very limited, no coaches, no players unless 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:40.160 they're already undergoing rehabilitation in the training room. That's those 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:45.080 guys have been there already, but no extra football coaches 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.640 or players are allowed. I think the limits seventy five people. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.840 And it's going to be timed in, timed out, checked in, temperature, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.280 in and out, one way, signs in the hallway a lot. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.040 It doesn't affect us me and you logs. Will you 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.400 sitting at home doing the show next week? But yeah, yeah, 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.280 we don't get to go in anyway. At least it's 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.800 moving forward in some direction, which is good. Yeah, we're 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.400 like phase twenty, you know, as far as like on 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:16.039 the pecking scale of of importance to the actual football 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.840 game being played. So so we've got a ways to wait. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.760 But but I get it. I mean, look, you're trying 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.520 to go back to work. You're trying to find a 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.719 way to make it work. This is unknown territory for 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.680 a lot of people, and so you're trying to minimize 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.160 the risk. I'm sure that you're gonna have a checkpoint 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.400 even for the people that are are allowed to go 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.400 in at phase one, where you walk up up to 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.720 the door and they have those thermometers that they can 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.080 stick into your ear and take your your core body 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.760 temperature immediately without sitting there with you know, having to 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:56.120 uh run the risk of somebody shedding on somebody else 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.240 by sticking a thermometer in their mouth. I mean, there's 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.640 all kinds of technology that's going to allow them to 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.640 I don't want to say, to know for sure what's 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.800 bringing into or what's coming into the building, but at 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.240 least you know, give yourself a fighting chance at that 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.520 having somewhat of a little bit of control over it. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.919 So will this be a laser on the forehead? They 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.960 got those? Now, they just pointed like they've got everything, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.080 and at some point they're going to have to find 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:25.960 a way to to get testing more readily available and 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.000 quicker and to where you can you can do a 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.280 test and almost immediately find out what the answer is. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.560 So I mean, until there's a vaccine, I mean, I 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.920 just I think there's got to be something like that 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.800 to where you've got I don't say instant gratification, but 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:45.120 but instant information to allow things to be able to continue. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.320 So it's going to be a different world and that uh, 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.720 you know, JP and I can actually foresee a lot 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.800 of people watching the games obviously from the comfort of 0:05:55.839 --> 0:06:00.120 their home. I also see the team traveling with a 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:05.480 very limited, um enclave of people, and it's gonna be 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.400 a very tight circle. And there's a lot of I 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.280 don't want to say ancillary personnel, but support personnel that 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.919 aren't gonna be going just because why would you risk 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.920 having additional people around your football team when you're trying 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.400 to play games. So I see us calling games from 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:26.599 TV maybe, UM, I see the the equipment room staff, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.680 you know, for example, equipment guys. I mean that's probably 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:34.320 gonna be limited to a certain extent. Trainers, you know, obviously, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.200 they are very important, so you're not gonna limit that 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.920 to put your players at risk or anything of that nature. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.159 But you know, the sponsorship, you know, I don't see 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.960 sponsorship having a role in traveling with a football team 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.000 for a while, you know. So, uh, it's gonna be 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.320 different and uh, and that's just gonna have to be 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.120 that way for some period of time and to be 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.960 able to get the games off without any hitch. The Falcons, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.200 I believe, are one of the first wave teams this 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:05.480 week to open. The Cowboys, Steelers, Texans, Colts. A few 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.760 other teams partially open this week, but the Falcons actually 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:14.520 did um a video on their social media channels with 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.840 Rich McKay giving a tour of the facility and how 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 it's set up for the return to work, which was 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.480 kind of interesting. It showed all the protocol they go 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.480 through to go in. It's something interesting to see how 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.120 it works. So if you're interested in that, take a 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.360 look on the Falcons social media pages. Now, the next 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.120 trick here Logs is how if you know there are 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.760 no fans this season, which is a possibility. If there 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.400 are no fans, how does that affect the economics of 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.160 the league. And there was a great article in Forbes 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.560 on on the Forbes social media page at least this week. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.080 I didn't read the hard copy this week. Um. Mike 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.560 cosani and was the author of this article, and he 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.360 said the NFL would lose five point five billion dollars 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:04.000 of stadium revenue. That's take its concession sponsors, parking, team stores. Um. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.320 If they don't have fans this year, it's thirty eight 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:10.440 percent percent of total revenue. And the team that would 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:15.360 lose the most would be the Dallas Cowboys six one 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.320 million dollars lost out of nearly a billion dollars in 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.720 revenue through the stadium. That's a's a lot of money. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:26.080 The Jaguars, by the way, we're on his list. Well, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.880 I mean the Cowboys. For reason that they would lose 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.240 the most money is that they owned the stadium, you know, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.680 so they've got the most revenant keep. They're not paying 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.120 a lease or or you know, they're not splitting the 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.520 money with a tenant. Don't there being the tenant. Don't 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.280 the side note? Don't they own their own merchandising too. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.720 I don't think they're in the merchandising pool for the NFL. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.480 I think they have their own now they're they're in 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.760 the merchandising pool with the NFL. But Jerry Jones was 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.440 the one who really went u kind of I guess 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.400 you could say was a maverick in some ways because 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.960 he started cutting his own deal away from the NFL. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.200 In the NFL first was very resistant to it, but 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.559 then they realized, hey, we can have league sponsorship, and 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.240 then the teams can still have their sponsorship, and then 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.480 everybody's still gonna make a lot more money, you know. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.680 So the Jerry Jones was the one who kind of, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.280 I guess you could say, pissed a lot of people off, 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.120 for lack of a better term, around the league because 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.400 he had his stadium and he was able to sell 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.680 rights to the stadium even though he owned the stadium 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.640 the league, and he was just some of his nose 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.400 the league saying, look, I can do whatever I want 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.000 with my stadium. You know, I own my own stadium, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.360 and it's it's that's not that's not Dallas Cowboys, Inc. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.680 That's Texas Stadium, ink. So I can do whatever I 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.720 want there. So so he has a lot of money 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.480 to blue, certainly with the Dallas Cowboys and the Jaguars 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.960 got a pretty good deal with the city of Jacksonville 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.000 for their stadium, you know. But you always make more 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.559 money when you own the grounds that you're in when 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.560 you're the landlord and the tenant, that's a lot of 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.120 money you can make. So that's that's Jerry Jones and 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.319 and he's done a really good job with his stadium. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.679 Because when you go to a Cowboys game, I mean, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.760 this is not just a football game. I mean, this 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.920 is is ah I don't want to say a Disneyland experience, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.719 but it's it's certainly more than a football game. I mean, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.320 it's it's a tremendous facility, and it's a tremendous venue 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.640 to see any kind of event at. I've still never 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.600 been believe it or not, you know. And here here's 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.480 the thing, JP. I mean, the owners in the National 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.800 Football League have a pretty good deal. When I say 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.640 a pretty good deal, and that what other what other profession, 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:30.200 what other business do you have the ability of having 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.960 essentially a fixed set of costs to operate your business 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.960 and your guarantee a certain amount or a percentage of 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.000 revenue to keep for yourself, you know. So, and what 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:42.600 I mean by that is that you know, the the 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.120 union and the owners have an agreement to where the 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:50.600 players get a percentage of revenue. And so if revenue 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.439 goes down, then the future player share goes down. And 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.560 it's a percentage directly related to overall revenue. So even 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.000 though it's it's a terrible thing that the owners are 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.760 not going to make as much money, and it's as 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.040 bad for business to not make as much money, I mean, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.000 it's still better than a lot of other businesses out there. That. Look, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.199 the owners got a way of of knowing. Look in 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.240 the future, Uh, if our expenses go up or if 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.640 our revenue goes down, then uh, you know, we have 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.960 a way to all set those costs because we're going 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.559 to have a less percentage, or not a less percentage, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.880 but a smaller amount to share with the players. So 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.480 it's a it's a unique business, and it's a it's 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.439 a successful business business. Mom mean, that's why over the 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.760 last number of years you saw how the value of 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.319 franchise have risen so dramatically. And I'm not saying it's 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.760 because of the players agreement or the collective bargaining agreement, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.360 but may it's certainly nice to be able to go 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.080 into a business and saying I know how much money 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.320 that I have to pay my labor force and what 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.440 my costs are because that is your labor force and 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.920 football as well as you know other things that facilities 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.920 and equipment and all those things. But at the end 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.520 of the day, I know what percentage is going there, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.560 and therefore I know what percentage is left for me 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.360 to do what I need to do and also to 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:14.720 take profit. Pretty good deal. Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars Analysts, Um, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.080 you know part of that to the revenue and the 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.240 all the percentages can move and change. So there's the 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.520 talk now of this week listening to other shows and 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.280 some of the writing online that could they trim the 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:33.160 salary cap in future years after the revenues? Yeah, I 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.920 mean that's I mean, that's a given. I mean, and 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.280 how does that How does that change the face of 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.920 teams in the league. Is you going to start trimming 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.600 away player? Isn't your salary if you're way over? I mean, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.560 that's that's an interesting deal. I mean, that's that's that's 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.040 the reality. I mean, could the league say, hey, you know, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.679 let's graduate this thing to where it's not going to 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.600 be so painful to where we have to just release 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.720 have a mass cutting by every team in the league. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.439 But the reality is, if that's your salary cap, that's 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.800 your salary cap based on what the the designated gross 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.040 revenue or the designated revenue is. So um, that's just 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.880 I mean, they look in the league, in the in 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.440 the Union, never anticipated anything like that. But if that's 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.680 what the number are, then that's what the numbers are. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.319 And that's that's the beauty of of the collective bargaining. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.480 Ging from an owner standpoint and me, if you're the 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.240 owner and you're sitting there saying, hey, look we got 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:27.440 an agreement and are overall, uh, pie that we have 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.680 to spend on player pool has drops And because you 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.200 and you agreed to this model and now we have 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.840 to adjust the salary cap down to meet what the 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.240 revenues were or what the expected revenues are. I mean, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.440 that's that's the way it is. And so that everybody's 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.080 just got to adjust and and sometimes and at some 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.360 point there's gonna be some hard pills to swallowing, tough 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.160 decisions to make, and uh, at that point you gotta 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.400 make them final. A couple of thoughts with you here, Logs, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.880 and I know you're a huge social media guy. We 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.440 touched on that big little, big huge You're always on there. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.400 So I know you saw today Gardner Minshew throwing the 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:09.760 football with his quarterback workout team whatever that he's working 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.240 with these days. There was a video of him throwing 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.840 some routes and running around and it looks like he's 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:16.800 put on a little bit of muscle, which is good. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.440 And um, you know, obviously in the video he didn't 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:24.320 throw anycompletion, so that's positive too. You know how that goes? 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.880 How how bad is it to where we are now? 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:32.200 Where we're talking about Gardner Minshew has a video to 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.760 where he's working out and it's all the rage. It's amazing. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.840 I mean, and that's where we are, right, I mean, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:44.160 that's just where where the league is with the with 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.440 the current pandemic that's going on in our world and 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:52.000 people are starving for information, and I guess that's where 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.240 it's hats and stuff like that. But yeah, no, good 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.960 for him, and I hope that he's uh, And I'm 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.680 not worried about him so much. I you know, you 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.160 worry about certain guys around the league, but he's one 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.840 of those guys. I liked this hard working, self motivated, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.440 committed and you don't worry about a guy like that. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.320 But there are some players that I can tell you 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.640 in the league that I don't know a lot of 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.480 the guys, well, I couldn't say any for the Jaguars, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:14.960 I know, because I mean you've got to kind of 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.440 be into that locker room in a pretty deep way 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:18.960 to be able to understand it. But I mean, even 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.040 when I was playing, there were guys that if they 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.400 didn't have the structure of an O t A or 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.240 an off season program and look at oh dude's gonna 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.960 be doing nothing but sitting on the couch eating cheetos 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.760 and and eating nice drink. It sounds like a pretty 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.160 good off season actually like that. Yeah, I know, Jp, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:43.080 I know that's not the way to win a lot 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:48.200 of ball games, though. When you got that. Hey, good stuff, Logs, 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.200 good to talk to you. Always way to lead off 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.720 the show this week, good job. Hey, it's nice. It's 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.960 nice to get ahead and get some fresh some fresh 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.040 air in the face, so to speak, instead of the 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.240 back door aft of Tony Boselli sucking all the window 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:07.960 on the show. He's not even on this week. Yeah, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.600 he took a week off. Okay, whatever, bo, Well, good 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.000 for him, not just giving him a hard time, because, uh, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.840 it's always fun. It'll be fun when we can all 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.760 free get in the same room and uh and have 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.400 a little friendly, friendly banter back and forth. I missed 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.400 it already, Uh, Logs, we'll talk to you again soon. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.200 But have a good one, ok, buddy, There he is. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.160 Jeff Lagman, Jaguars analysts joining us. 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