1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: It is Thursday May. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: now America's raining Animal Crossing Champion Jay Peace. I have 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: no idea what that means, but welcome into Jaguars Happy 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Hours Thursday May twenty one. J P. Shaddick from the 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Palatial Home Studio Side Sports Extra Room. Yet again, we're 6 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: two months in and it could be a little longer 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: while we're doing the show here. We've got plenty of 8 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: show ahead today. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockman coming up shortly. 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osier will break down his podcast this 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: week featuring Paul pas Leslie a little bit more, and 11 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: we'll hear from CBS Sports play by play announcer i 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: An Eagle. He's also the Thursday night football announcer on 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: West with One with Tony Boselli. He is also an 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: announcer for the NBA on T n T. He is 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: also an announcer for the Brooklyn Nets on television, so 16 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: he has a multi faceted approach to what's going on 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: right now, NBA, NFL, Radio, TV. All the rest will 18 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: here from Iron coming up. So a good show coming 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: up today. Glad you have chosen to join us on 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Tinton a m in Jacksonville and on the Jaguars social 21 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: media channels. The podcast archive coming up a little bit 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: later as well. Let's go to the phone line and 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: welcome in our co host, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghuman. Good afternoon, 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Jeff KP. It's like Iron the Eagle, inc. That'd be 25 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: the best way to call him, right, pretty much, He's everywhere. 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to be, right. I build 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the brand, and the brand keeps building, you know. Yeah, 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: he's he's uh, he's a good guy too, you know. Um, 29 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, we we get to come across a lot 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: of guys in the business that are broadcast stirs, are 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: in the sporting industry, and and uh, he's put of 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: my favorite guys down earth. Works hard and has earned 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: everything that he's gotten and and deservedly. So he's a 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: very talented guy. Well here from my ant coming up obviously, 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: but I was looking through his bio and stuff the 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: last couple of days, and um, I've done it for 37 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: a while obviously, but I didn't realize he's been doing 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: NFL game since that's a long time. When I was playing, 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean when he you know, he was in New 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: York when I was up there, and so I mean 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: me and him crossed pass Gosh years ago. And uh 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: and then obviously, uh he made his name in the 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: NFL is kind of where he got started in New 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: York is kind of where he really cut his teeth. 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: And uh. But good dude, you know, you root for 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: guys like that, and uh, he's gonna be around for 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: many years to come, you know. I mean, at some 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: point somebody's got to replace the Jim Nance and the 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: and the al Michael's, right, I mean, and he's positioning 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: himself to be that guy. He's knocking on the door 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: for sure. Lot going on logs, Let's uh, let's talk 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: a little ball. You know, I don't even know if 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: it's really talking ball right now. There's not a lot 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: of ball to be talked about these days, obviously with 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: the everything going virtual. But um, yeah, I guess the 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: next big thing for the organization is Phase one opening 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: of the facility that's coming up. They could start it, 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: you know, last it could have started this week, but 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars have waited until May six to start Phase 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: one opening. It's very limited, no coaches, no players unless 61 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: they're already undergoing rehabilitation in the training room. That's those 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: guys have been there already, but no extra football coaches 63 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: or players are allowed. I think the limits seventy five people. 64 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: And it's going to be timed in, timed out, checked in, temperature, 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: in and out, one way, signs in the hallway a lot. 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't affect us me and you logs. Will you 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: sitting at home doing the show next week? But yeah, yeah, 68 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: we don't get to go in anyway. At least it's 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: moving forward in some direction, which is good. Yeah, we're 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: like phase twenty, you know, as far as like on 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: the pecking scale of of importance to the actual football 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: game being played. So so we've got a ways to wait. 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: But but I get it. I mean, look, you're trying 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: to go back to work. You're trying to find a 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: way to make it work. This is unknown territory for 76 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and so you're trying to minimize 77 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: the risk. I'm sure that you're gonna have a checkpoint 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: even for the people that are are allowed to go 79 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: in at phase one, where you walk up up to 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: the door and they have those thermometers that they can 81 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: stick into your ear and take your your core body 82 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: temperature immediately without sitting there with you know, having to 83 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: uh run the risk of somebody shedding on somebody else 84 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: by sticking a thermometer in their mouth. I mean, there's 85 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: all kinds of technology that's going to allow them to 86 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, to know for sure what's 87 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: bringing into or what's coming into the building, but at 88 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: least you know, give yourself a fighting chance at that 89 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: having somewhat of a little bit of control over it. 90 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: So will this be a laser on the forehead? They 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: got those? Now, they just pointed like they've got everything, 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: and at some point they're going to have to find 93 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: a way to to get testing more readily available and 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: quicker and to where you can you can do a 95 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: test and almost immediately find out what the answer is. 96 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, until there's a vaccine, I mean, I 97 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: just I think there's got to be something like that 98 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: to where you've got I don't say instant gratification, but 99 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: but instant information to allow things to be able to continue. 100 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: So it's going to be a different world and that uh, 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, JP and I can actually foresee a lot 102 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: of people watching the games obviously from the comfort of 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: their home. I also see the team traveling with a 104 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: very limited, um enclave of people, and it's gonna be 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: a very tight circle. And there's a lot of I 106 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: don't want to say ancillary personnel, but support personnel that 107 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: aren't gonna be going just because why would you risk 108 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: having additional people around your football team when you're trying 109 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: to play games. So I see us calling games from 110 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: TV maybe, UM, I see the the equipment room staff, 111 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, for example, equipment guys. I mean that's probably 112 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna be limited to a certain extent. Trainers, you know, obviously, 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: they are very important, so you're not gonna limit that 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: to put your players at risk or anything of that nature. 115 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: But you know, the sponsorship, you know, I don't see 116 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: sponsorship having a role in traveling with a football team 117 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: for a while, you know. So, uh, it's gonna be 118 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: different and uh, and that's just gonna have to be 119 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: that way for some period of time and to be 120 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: able to get the games off without any hitch. The Falcons, 121 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I believe, are one of the first wave teams this 122 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: week to open. The Cowboys, Steelers, Texans, Colts. A few 123 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: other teams partially open this week, but the Falcons actually 124 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: did um a video on their social media channels with 125 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Rich McKay giving a tour of the facility and how 126 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: it's set up for the return to work, which was 127 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. It showed all the protocol they go 128 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: through to go in. It's something interesting to see how 129 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: it works. So if you're interested in that, take a 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: look on the Falcons social media pages. Now, the next 131 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: trick here Logs is how if you know there are 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: no fans this season, which is a possibility. If there 133 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: are no fans, how does that affect the economics of 134 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the league. And there was a great article in Forbes 135 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: on on the Forbes social media page at least this week. 136 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: I didn't read the hard copy this week. Um. Mike 137 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: cosani and was the author of this article, and he 138 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: said the NFL would lose five point five billion dollars 139 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: of stadium revenue. That's take its concession sponsors, parking, team stores. Um. 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: If they don't have fans this year, it's thirty eight 141 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: percent percent of total revenue. And the team that would 142 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: lose the most would be the Dallas Cowboys six one 143 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: million dollars lost out of nearly a billion dollars in 144 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: revenue through the stadium. That's a's a lot of money. 145 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: The Jaguars, by the way, we're on his list. Well, 146 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys. For reason that they would lose 147 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: the most money is that they owned the stadium, you know, 148 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: so they've got the most revenant keep. They're not paying 149 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: a lease or or you know, they're not splitting the 150 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: money with a tenant. Don't there being the tenant. Don't 151 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: the side note? Don't they own their own merchandising too. 152 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they're in the merchandising pool for the NFL. 153 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: I think they have their own now they're they're in 154 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: the merchandising pool with the NFL. But Jerry Jones was 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: the one who really went u kind of I guess 156 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: you could say was a maverick in some ways because 157 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: he started cutting his own deal away from the NFL. 158 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: In the NFL first was very resistant to it, but 159 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: then they realized, hey, we can have league sponsorship, and 160 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: then the teams can still have their sponsorship, and then 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: everybody's still gonna make a lot more money, you know. 162 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: So the Jerry Jones was the one who kind of, 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I guess you could say, pissed a lot of people off, 164 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, around the league because 165 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: he had his stadium and he was able to sell 166 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: rights to the stadium even though he owned the stadium 167 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the league, and he was just some of his nose 168 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: the league saying, look, I can do whatever I want 169 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: with my stadium. You know, I own my own stadium, 170 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: and it's it's that's not that's not Dallas Cowboys, Inc. 171 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: That's Texas Stadium, ink. So I can do whatever I 172 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: want there. So so he has a lot of money 173 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: to blue, certainly with the Dallas Cowboys and the Jaguars 174 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: got a pretty good deal with the city of Jacksonville 175 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: for their stadium, you know. But you always make more 176 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: money when you own the grounds that you're in when 177 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: you're the landlord and the tenant, that's a lot of 178 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: money you can make. So that's that's Jerry Jones and 179 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: and he's done a really good job with his stadium. 180 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: Because when you go to a Cowboys game, I mean, 181 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: this is not just a football game. I mean, this 182 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: is is ah I don't want to say a Disneyland experience, 183 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: but it's it's certainly more than a football game. I mean, 184 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a tremendous facility, and it's a tremendous venue 185 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: to see any kind of event at. I've still never 186 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: been believe it or not, you know. And here here's 187 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: the thing, JP. I mean, the owners in the National 188 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Football League have a pretty good deal. When I say 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good deal, and that what other what other profession, 190 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: what other business do you have the ability of having 191 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: essentially a fixed set of costs to operate your business 192 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: and your guarantee a certain amount or a percentage of 193 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: revenue to keep for yourself, you know. So, and what 194 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean by that is that you know, the the 195 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: union and the owners have an agreement to where the 196 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: players get a percentage of revenue. And so if revenue 197 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: goes down, then the future player share goes down. And 198 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: it's a percentage directly related to overall revenue. So even 199 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: though it's it's a terrible thing that the owners are 200 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: not going to make as much money, and it's as 201 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: bad for business to not make as much money, I mean, 202 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: it's still better than a lot of other businesses out there. That. Look, 203 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: the owners got a way of of knowing. Look in 204 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: the future, Uh, if our expenses go up or if 205 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: our revenue goes down, then uh, you know, we have 206 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: a way to all set those costs because we're going 207 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: to have a less percentage, or not a less percentage, 208 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: but a smaller amount to share with the players. So 209 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a unique business, and it's a it's 210 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: a successful business business. Mom mean, that's why over the 211 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: last number of years you saw how the value of 212 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: franchise have risen so dramatically. And I'm not saying it's 213 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: because of the players agreement or the collective bargaining agreement, 214 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: but may it's certainly nice to be able to go 215 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: into a business and saying I know how much money 216 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: that I have to pay my labor force and what 217 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: my costs are because that is your labor force and 218 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: football as well as you know other things that facilities 219 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: and equipment and all those things. But at the end 220 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: of the day, I know what percentage is going there, 221 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: and therefore I know what percentage is left for me 222 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: to do what I need to do and also to 223 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: take profit. Pretty good deal. Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars Analysts, Um, 224 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: you know part of that to the revenue and the 225 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: all the percentages can move and change. So there's the 226 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: talk now of this week listening to other shows and 227 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: some of the writing online that could they trim the 228 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: salary cap in future years after the revenues? Yeah, I 229 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: mean that's I mean, that's a given. I mean, and 230 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: how does that How does that change the face of 231 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: teams in the league. Is you going to start trimming 232 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: away player? Isn't your salary if you're way over? I mean, 233 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: that's that's an interesting deal. I mean, that's that's that's 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: the reality. I mean, could the league say, hey, you know, 235 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: let's graduate this thing to where it's not going to 236 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: be so painful to where we have to just release 237 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: have a mass cutting by every team in the league. 238 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: But the reality is, if that's your salary cap, that's 239 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: your salary cap based on what the the designated gross 240 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: revenue or the designated revenue is. So um, that's just 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they look in the league, in the in 242 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: the Union, never anticipated anything like that. But if that's 243 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: what the number are, then that's what the numbers are. 244 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: And that's that's the beauty of of the collective bargaining. 245 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Ging from an owner standpoint and me, if you're the 246 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: owner and you're sitting there saying, hey, look we got 247 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: an agreement and are overall, uh, pie that we have 248 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: to spend on player pool has drops And because you 249 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: and you agreed to this model and now we have 250 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: to adjust the salary cap down to meet what the 251 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: revenues were or what the expected revenues are. I mean, 252 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: that's that's the way it is. And so that everybody's 253 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: just got to adjust and and sometimes and at some 254 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: point there's gonna be some hard pills to swallowing, tough 255 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: decisions to make, and uh, at that point you gotta 256 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: make them final. A couple of thoughts with you here, Logs, 257 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: and I know you're a huge social media guy. We 258 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: touched on that big little, big huge You're always on there. 259 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: So I know you saw today Gardner Minshew throwing the 260 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: football with his quarterback workout team whatever that he's working 261 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: with these days. There was a video of him throwing 262 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: some routes and running around and it looks like he's 263 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: put on a little bit of muscle, which is good. 264 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: And um, you know, obviously in the video he didn't 265 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: throw anycompletion, so that's positive too. You know how that goes? 266 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: How how bad is it to where we are now? 267 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Where we're talking about Gardner Minshew has a video to 268 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: where he's working out and it's all the rage. It's amazing. 269 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's where we are, right, I mean, 270 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: that's just where where the league is with the with 271 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: the current pandemic that's going on in our world and 272 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: people are starving for information, and I guess that's where 273 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: it's hats and stuff like that. But yeah, no, good 274 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: for him, and I hope that he's uh, And I'm 275 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: not worried about him so much. I you know, you 276 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: worry about certain guys around the league, but he's one 277 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: of those guys. I liked this hard working, self motivated, 278 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: committed and you don't worry about a guy like that. 279 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: But there are some players that I can tell you 280 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: in the league that I don't know a lot of 281 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: the guys, well, I couldn't say any for the Jaguars, 282 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: I know, because I mean you've got to kind of 283 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: be into that locker room in a pretty deep way 284 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: to be able to understand it. But I mean, even 285 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: when I was playing, there were guys that if they 286 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't have the structure of an O t A or 287 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: an off season program and look at oh dude's gonna 288 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: be doing nothing but sitting on the couch eating cheetos 289 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: and and eating nice drink. It sounds like a pretty 290 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: good off season actually like that. Yeah, I know, Jp, 291 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I know that's not the way to win a lot 292 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: of ball games, though. When you got that. Hey, good stuff, Logs, 293 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Always way to lead off 294 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: the show this week, good job. Hey, it's nice. It's 295 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: nice to get ahead and get some fresh some fresh 296 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: air in the face, so to speak, instead of the 297 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: back door aft of Tony Boselli sucking all the window 298 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: on the show. He's not even on this week. Yeah, 299 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: he took a week off. Okay, whatever, bo, Well, good 300 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: for him, not just giving him a hard time, because, uh, 301 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: it's always fun. It'll be fun when we can all 302 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: free get in the same room and uh and have 303 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: a little friendly, friendly banter back and forth. 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You can see a partial bit 389 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: of the interview video on Jaguars dot com right now. 390 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: The full interview coming up in just a couple of moments. Uh. 391 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Here on this program. John Osier is coming up on 392 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: this program right now, senior writer Jaguars dot Com And 393 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: good buddy, Hey John, what's up here here? You are 394 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: welcome back. We are still here, and it sounds like 395 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna be here for a little bit longer. We're 396 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: I know that this is gonna shock you. We are 397 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: not as essential as we thought we were. Well, we're 398 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: about I mean, like whatever that list is, Davy. Uh, 399 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: I have a feeling we're way down. Like we may 400 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: not be back. If it's about who's essential, we're in 401 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: you know, you just put a period at the end 402 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: of we may not be back. I mean, we might 403 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: just be here. I'm kidding yet. We got we got 404 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: a TV here, we got the radio equipment. You know, 405 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: we can get some stuff done around here. At least 406 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: we've been doing it so far, and we'll do it 407 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: as long as we need to do it, for sure. So, John, 408 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: you had another podcast this week, came out on Monday. 409 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: It's called the Ozone Podcast. It's an original. You are 410 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: really good and you had one of everybody's all time 411 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: favorites Paul Paz lovesni this week. And I found it 412 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: interesting that, you know, it's tough for any player to 413 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: figure out what's next. You know, Um, Paul seems to 414 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: is he's finding a different way of going about figuring 415 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: out what he wants to do. He's in school, he's 416 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: working at an air an Air Malona Air Charter. I believe, Um, 417 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: he's doing a few different things to trying to figure 418 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: out really what his next line of work is going 419 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: to be. Nothing he really has to. But it's even 420 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: for a guy like Paul, it's hard because he's he's 421 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: really locked into doing these different things. But it seems 422 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: like it can be difficult to figure out a path. Yeah. 423 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: The first off, the plan with the podcasts, particularly during 424 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: the off season, our plan is to have alumni players 425 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: on relatively often. Were you want to catch up with 426 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: guys and I thought Paul was maybe the most interesting 427 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: to start off with, just for the reason that you 428 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: site he uh. I had read a couple of things 429 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: and talked to Paul. I think it was last summer, 430 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: and I was always struck by how open and how 431 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: he was really sort of trying to embrace the fact 432 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: that it was going to be difficult. And he talked 433 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: a little in the podcast, which said I'm sure JP 434 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: you listened to, but he talked a little bit in 435 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: it about he thought it was important to acknowledge that 436 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: it was going to be hard, because in a sense, 437 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: why wouldn't it be, you know, when you play at 438 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: the level of the Paul, as he retired at thirty three, 439 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: probably means he's been routine based in football for two decades. 440 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: And as he said, when you play the way he does, 441 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: an approach which most pros do if if they're playing 442 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: long enough to retire and not get cut. It's all 443 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: about your diet. You're you're obsessed with when you're working 444 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: out on vacation, you're trying to figure out a place 445 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: to go work out. It's always running through your mind. 446 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: So to separate from that is very difficult, and it 447 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: strikes me, from having talked to him last week, that 448 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: he's doing it a really smart job of acknowledging it's 449 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: going to be difficult, not ignoring that it going to 450 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: be difficult, and eventually finding his way to what he 451 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: wants to do, which, by the way, no surprise. And 452 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: he didn't say this. I hope I'm not putting words 453 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: in his mouth. I would be stunned if he's not 454 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: coaching the next two or three years. We talked about 455 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: it a little bit and he, uh, you know, he's 456 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: he's working with t A bank now. He has worked 457 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: as he's fascinated with air you know, with with airplanes 458 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: and did that and I he talked at the end 459 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: of the podcast about how he really thinks that at 460 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: first you want to get away from football, but you 461 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: can tell in his voice the poll is there. He said, 462 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: it's not fair to his team gonna be a great 463 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: player just because you, I mean a great coach, just 464 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: because you played, but jp you were around him, You've 465 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: been around coaches, players, etcetera. If anybody who was a 466 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: very very very good player can go be a very 467 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: very good coach, it's this guy. I would be surprised. 468 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: I think he's head coach. Continued, that's that I think 469 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: he'd be fantastic at it, and uh, I think he 470 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: gets back into it, he will be a rock star 471 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: as a coach. This is the stories of him around 472 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: the building watching video and doing that kind of thing 473 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: are pretty epic. Obviously, you know, on the regular week's 474 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: worth of work, and then even after a football game, 475 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: he would stay after a game and go back in 476 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: the film room that afternoon that night and yeah, he's 477 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: just played the game. And even beyond that, there's an 478 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: element of you know, we're not like this JP. When 479 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: people are around us, they don't aspire to be us. 480 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: You know, we don't lead people, you and I. But 481 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: great coaches and great leaders have an element that when 482 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: you're around them, you think, you know, it would be 483 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: good to follow this person belief. Well, certainly because Lesnie 484 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: had that sort of an ATM. You know, he's got 485 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: that element. You can see him standing in front of 486 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: a room and players, you know, agree with him or not. 487 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: He's the kind of person who can lead other people. 488 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I know that he's not quite 489 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: ready to make that jump and whatever he's committed to, 490 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: whatever he's doing, he's gonna commit to it, but it 491 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: feels to me like the poll is pulling him back. 492 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: And I think once he does it, let of these 493 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: coaches do that. A lot of the coaches who who 494 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: played in the NFL, they take two or three years 495 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: and then all right. When I was in Indy, my 496 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: last couple of years in Indie, Frank Reich was a 497 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: grad assistant and it's not grat asists in the NFL, 498 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: but it's a quality control coat. I remember talking to 499 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: him right before I left the Colt and thinking, this 500 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: guy is it's gonna be honest way I couldn't predictly 501 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: a head coach, but I don't like that he's been 502 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: away from it for a while. Then the poll comes 503 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: back and uh, you know, other guys trying to be 504 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: really good coaches. I'd be surprised Positi. Isn't that Senior 505 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: writer Jaguars dot Com John Osan joining us on Jaguars 506 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this Thursday. Let's see the owners meetings 507 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: are going on. So they had a meeting I think 508 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: last week or late early this week, and then they're 509 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: gonna have another one next week. The owners tabled the 510 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: resolution to incentivize hiring of minority coaches and gms. That 511 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: was kind of thrown out there as an idea. They 512 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: tabled that idea, but later teams must now interview at 513 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: least two external minority candidates for head coaching jobs and 514 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: at least one for coordinator jobs, and John teams are 515 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: now prevented from blocking assistant coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions. 516 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: That's also for assistant GM positions as well, So some 517 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: changes there that that second part is a general change 518 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: for the whole league. The interview minor A candidates is 519 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: as an extension of the ruining rule of sorts. So 520 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: it's obvious that the league wanted to address this in 521 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: some way this offseason, and at least so far they have. Well. 522 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: And if you like this the idea that the league, 523 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure I tell you what to do, don't fall 524 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: asleep on it. Acknowledge it, and continue to push and 525 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: look for ideas. When you're looking for an idea on 526 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: how to fix this kind of a problem, it's not 527 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: going to be a consensus solution and it's not gonna 528 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: be an overnight solution, unfortunately. I mean, so what the 529 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: league is clearly trying to do is okay at first 530 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: when the ruining rule came around, I forget when it was, 531 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: but it was that mid two thousand. It feels like 532 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: because I used to talk to Tony Dungee a lot 533 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: about it when I was with the Colts and he 534 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: was working there, because he was a big believer in it, 535 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: the fact that if if you got names out there 536 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: that otherwise would be out there. The hiring process is 537 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: often guys get floated one year, you go interview someplace 538 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: one year, the next year you're talked about all offseason 539 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: as a candidate, and then your name gets into the 540 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: coaching circle, and then a couple of years later you 541 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: get hired because owners are now thinking about your name. 542 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: So that's why he liked the Rooney roll, because it 543 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: forced minority candidate to be interviewed, where at one time 544 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: perhaps that wasn't happening. Well, that lost its momentum. So 545 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: I haven't talked Tony about it, but I'm sure he 546 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: would like the idea of the fact that now the 547 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: the coordinator positions are going to be required to have 548 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: a minority candidate interviews, And to me, that is a 549 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: huge Now you're going to get more at that level, 550 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: meaning at the coordinator level, you're going to get more 551 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: minority coordinators. At those levels, it's hard to make the 552 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: jump from assistant I mean wide receivers coach to head coach. 553 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: You got to get the coordinator situation picks first. So uh, 554 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: this feels like a step in the right direction. But 555 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: it also feels like now that they have addressed this, 556 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: uh and not addressing They've been addressing it, but it's 557 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: become a huge issue this offseason. My senses, the pedal 558 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: will remain on the gas and you'll have more and 559 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: more ideas like this being discussed over the next couple 560 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: of years in the next couple off season. Johnsy with 561 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: US Jaguars dot Com seen writer. It also means now 562 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: that you know, since they can't at block assistant they 563 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: can't block assistant coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions anymore 564 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: of them is you better have a pretty good depth 565 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: chart of coaches on your roster to promote from within 566 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: if somebody gets picked off. Yeah, and that's big for 567 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: all coaches because there's a lot of There is a 568 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: lot of blocking that goes on all the time, more 569 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: than you hear about. I think well and sometimes more 570 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: than the coaches that don't hear about Yeah. Yeah, a 571 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: team of wild block gut and and I even know 572 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: they got a call and uh so that's a major 573 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: step forward for individuals. Uh. Again, it's the only thing. 574 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: What's good for individual is not always great for the team. 575 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are teams that won't love that You're 576 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: you're losing good assistance. But as you said, JP, it 577 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: puts the pressure on continue to develop, coaches, continue to 578 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: churn it. I know teams will be very upset about this, 579 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: you know me, JP, I think coaching on some levels 580 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: sometimes gets way overblown and discussing the off season. So 581 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: I think generally speaking, the good teams with the good 582 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: coaches will be able to adapt to this and develop 583 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: from within and have guys that they're ready to do 584 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: the job. All right, John, you've got about an hour 585 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: until Cassius Marsh. What do you want to hear from 586 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: him today? Uh? You know, I think it'll be interesting 587 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: just to see what he thinks of the Jags coming in. Uh, 588 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: I and ask him about his dad. I covered his 589 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: dad uh in ninety six. Curtis Marsh. I have fond 590 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: memories of interviewing curtased even the dynamic kids. Uh, so 591 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: maybe that'll come up. You know. He called him a 592 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: kidbout that when I covered and needed a kid. He's now, 593 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: but so was I. We're not kids anymore day. We're 594 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: all growing up, that's right. Uh, we're all kids at 595 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: heart though, John, good stuff. Good to talk to you 596 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: as always, and we'll talk to you soon, all right, Budy, 597 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: thank you. Great holiday weekend. That's Memorial Day weekend. Believe 598 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: it or not. I may just be like every other 599 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: day on on Memorial Day. But um, that's coming up 600 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: this weekend. Thanks to John Osan senior writer. 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He also does the Jets prices and games. 696 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: Just to throw the resumes long for Iron, but he's 697 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: covered a number of games for the Jaguars over the 698 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: recent seasons, especially even last year you had with the 699 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: Week one game against Kansas City didn't go well, but 700 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: that was the start of the Gardner Minshew era at 701 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: that point. A couple other instances where he was around 702 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: and involved with the Jaguars covering a game last year 703 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: and in the seasons prior so he has not only 704 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: this year, but in since covering the league sinc. Ninety eighties, 705 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: got a pretty good run of the Jaguars history as well. 706 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: It's always a good visit with Iron Eagle. The partial 707 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 1: video visit available on Jaguars dot Com. Right now, here's 708 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: the full visit here on Jaguars Happy Hours with CBS Sports, 709 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: Westwood One and Brooklyn Nets TV. Play by player man 710 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: I an Eagle. Good to see you, I And how 711 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: things in New York? Yeah, great to see you as well. JP. 712 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: We're doing well. Everything is running smoothly here, thank you. Yeah, 713 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: and we're starting to open up a little bit more 714 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: here in Florida. Let's talk a little bit of ball though. 715 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: Let's start though. I know you worked with Tony Boselli 716 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football. I worked with Tony Boselli, you know, 717 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: four days a week during the football season, so I 718 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: know what you're going through. Uh, let's get this right 719 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: on the table. Tony and I have set an NFL 720 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: broadcast record for the largest disparity in broadcast partners in 721 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: football history and broadcasting history. And somehow it works. Tony 722 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: is a great guy. He's a tremendous partner, knows the game, prepared, 723 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: sense of humor, easy to be around, certainly a good 724 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: guy to have a pregame meal with, just to make 725 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: you feel good about yourself after the fact that no 726 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't eat that much. Tony can pack it obviously 727 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: more than anything else. Just happy that he's saved his family, 728 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: say if, and feeling healthy and truly. I worked with 729 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: a lot of different people, Tony has been one of 730 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: the best guys that I've ever partnered with. Let's go 731 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: back to the day things shut down. I know you 732 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: do the NETS television games. It was college basketball conference 733 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: tournament time as well. Where were you when the shutdowns started? 734 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,479 Speaker 1: What do you remember about that day? Where were you working? Yeah, JP, 735 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco. I had just worked TNT 736 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: game the Warriors against the Clippers, and I actually stayed 737 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area because the Nets were coming in 738 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: to play the Warriors two nights later. First game was 739 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday night. I knew that I had Wednesday 740 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: off and walking around San Francisco that day normally a 741 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of hustle and bustle, and there was nothing happening. 742 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: It was very surreal. I changed hotels and I walked 743 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: about three quarters of a mile with my luggage on wheels, 744 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: and there was nothing happening. Very strange. And then later 745 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: that night, that Wednesday night, the President spoke to the country, 746 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: talked about the travel restrictions, and then about two hours later, 747 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Rudy Joe Gobert I was announced had tested positive for coronavirus. 748 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: NBA shutdown. I jumped on a red eye flight immediately 749 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: to get back to the New York area. My family 750 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: was all spread out. My wife and my daughter were 751 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: in Australia where my daughter was studying. My son was 752 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: in l A. So that initial reaction was very personal 753 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: of trying to get everybody situated and back home. And 754 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: then the professional side started to come into focus. Atlantic 755 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: Ten Championship. I was supposed to work that Sunday canceled 756 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: and the tournament canceled. Obviously, we know what happened with 757 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: the NBA and we are still feeling that domino effect today. 758 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 1: The NFL business as usual, but we know that there's 759 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: some trepidation moving forward as to whether or not they're 760 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: going to be able to start on time and play 761 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: the games at the schedule that they just announced recently. 762 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: I an eagle with US. You touched on a moment 763 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: ago the NFL, uh, You know, everything in this off 764 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: season has pretty much gone business as usual, at least 765 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: scheduling wise. They've had the draft, they did it virtually 766 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: the off season programs going on right now, virtually nothing 767 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: on the field. They announced the schedule, for goodness sakes, 768 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: that went out without a hitch. But now the question 769 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: moving ahead is what happens around training camp and do 770 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: they have to start pairing games down games without fans. 771 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: It's all a big question. Nobody has an answer right now, 772 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: but right so far it's been so good, but you 773 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: get the kind of feeling that it might not last 774 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: that long. Jp The greatest advantage that the NFL has 775 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: had is time on their side. This happened to coincide 776 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: with their off season, and although there might have been 777 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: some people initially that thought it was a bit tone deaf, 778 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: the reality is, after the reaction that we saw from 779 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: the NFL draft and the people around the country, it 780 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: was welcomed and it was a nice distraction. We understand 781 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: where sports fits in to the grand landscape. We miss it, 782 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: but it is not the top priority. The top priority 783 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: is getting our country and our society back up to speed. 784 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: But sports plays a role in that it certainly covers 785 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot of jobs, and the economy is affected by it, 786 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: and I think just the general demeanor of people are 787 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 1: affected by it in a positive way if sports is involved. 788 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: So the NFL did fill a void, but they're now 789 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: facing grander questions, and that's how do you continue with 790 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: an offseason program. You can do it via zoom. You 791 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: can have meetings that works short term, but eventually the 792 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: physical part comes into play, and you've got to get 793 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 1: your players ready and you have to practice. There's no sport, 794 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: in my mind out there that requires more of the 795 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: repetition and the pract is in order to do your 796 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: job well and in order to avoid injury. So it's 797 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: interconnected in that manner. The way the schedule is set up, 798 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: they could push it, they could move it and shift it, 799 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: and they could shorten it. That's not their goal. Their 800 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: goal is to play a seventeen week schedule, sixteen games 801 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: for each team. Still respecting the buy but understanding they 802 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: might have to come up with an alternative if we're 803 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: not at a point where the safety measures are in 804 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: place to have fifty three players on a team and 805 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: a practice squad and everybody accounted for day in and 806 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: day out at a facility. You can limit the amount 807 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: of people going in, but let's face it, when players 808 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: go back home, you don't know who they are connecting 809 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: with and who they are interacting with. So I think 810 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: that's where the jigsaw puzzle is going to get very 811 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: challenging for the league. A lot of players, a lot 812 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: of people and staff involved in the NFL more so 813 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: than any other sport. An Eagle CBS Sports with us 814 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: here on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Radio. This might 815 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: be a little bit premature on that note, but NFL 816 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 1: on CBS telecasts will announcers be allowed in the stadium? 817 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: We know it's gonna be on TV if there are 818 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: no fans, but um, how would you call a game 819 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: if you're not allowed in the stadi? Well, two things 820 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: there jp the first part of your question. Look, I 821 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: think if you compare it to the NBA, it is 822 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: vastly different. NFL. You're up in a press box. You 823 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: are away from the action to begin with. It's often 824 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: a controlled environment. You limit the amount of people that 825 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 1: are in your booth more or less. It's played by 826 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: play announcer, analysts, stat person, spot er, audio person, stage manager. 827 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: That's about it. I would say essential you're looking at 828 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: six people, maybe seven, based on where you put the cameras. 829 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: Would it be robotic cameras or would it be men 830 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: and women working the cameras, So I could envision a 831 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: plan that might include announcers at the site. Now the 832 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: question is going to travel to these cities freely? And 833 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: is there enough travel that's working throughout the nation that 834 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: will allow announcers to come and go. Is there a 835 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: quarantine that might be set up. These are all very 836 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: legitimate questions moving forward, and I think there would be 837 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: some legal concerns that would have to be sorted out 838 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: with all of the people in play. The second part 839 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 1: of the question, I've done a number of telecasts off 840 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: of a monitor in a remote location. I've done basketball, 841 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: I've done tennis, I've done golf. It can be done. 842 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: It's it's challenge, Yes, certainly, if there are no fans 843 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: in the stadium, you're not getting a whole lot of ambiance, 844 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to really check your energy and 845 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: gauge where that level would be based on the action. 846 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: And you're now limited to only what you see on 847 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: the screen. No longer can you view what's happening on 848 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: the sidelines and substitutions and nuances that you pick up 849 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: when you're at the venue. But if the question is 850 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: can it be done. It can be done. In the 851 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: last few minutes with you here, I an Eagle, CBS Sports, 852 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: Westwood One Radio, NBA on T and T, Brooklyn Nets. 853 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on and on. Let's talk 854 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: a little Jaguars football. Now. Life happens fast in the 855 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 1: National Football League. Nearly the entire starting defense is gone. 856 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: Averrey Jones is here, Miles Jack is still here, Unique 857 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: and may or may not be here. That's a different 858 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: story altogether. Those are only three starters from maiming the offense, 859 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 1: some changes on offense and that time too. This happened quick, 860 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: but there's confidence I think inside the building at least 861 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: virtually these days, that this group is can get some 862 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: things done this year. They may not go win eleven games, 863 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: but there is some confidence around here even with all 864 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: the changes. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Dan Felt and I 865 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: called the Steelers Jaguars playoff game, and to think from 866 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: that moment to where we are today in terms of 867 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: personnel and expectations, things do change quickly, and it's a 868 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: reminder how hard and difficult it is to sustain in 869 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League with players bouncing around and uh 870 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you catch a break with your schedule, sometimes you don't. 871 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: That year, things came together nicely at the right time. 872 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: That Jaguars were playing their best football at the most 873 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: important time of the year, and matching that has been 874 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: not sure. But that said, what I saw last year, 875 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: there were certainly times where they left something to be desired. 876 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: I had that game late in season Jacksonville, Tennessee, when 877 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: the Titans were on the rise, and that was pretty 878 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 1: much the end of the line for the Jaguars. Gardner 879 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: Minshew got his job back after that and now here 880 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: we are getting ready for and he's the guy. Pretty 881 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 1: amazing considering again week one of the season, I've got 882 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars Kansas City Chiefs. Minshew is in the game for 883 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: Nick Foles who got injured, and a phenomenon began because 884 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: he just had a presence about him. He wasn't intimidated, 885 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: there was no fear. He just didn't strike you as 886 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: a rookie. And it's funny in the NFL because we 887 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: have so many different personalities and guys that are highly 888 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: successful that are very cocky, and others that are highly 889 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: successful that are very humble. Gardner Minshew just had that 890 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: it factor. Whatever that is. Sometimes you can't really gauge it, 891 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: and you have to look someone in the eye and 892 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: you have to have a conversation with him. And I 893 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: can see how it rubbed off on his teammates, and 894 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 1: he's got a belief whether or not he takes advantage 895 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: of this and becomes a ten year starter in the NFL. Look, 896 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 1: we don't know that that that's a hundred million dollar 897 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: question for Gardner Minshew, but he does have attributes that 898 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: you look for in a leader, in a starting quarterback, 899 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: and a guy that people root for. It's easy to 900 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: root for him, But there are other players on this 901 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: team too that have star quality to them. Josh Allen, 902 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: he seems to be the type of guy that you 903 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 1: can build defensively around, a guy who could be a 904 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: ten year player in Jacksonville. DJ Chark on the other side, 905 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Those are two pieces to Pro Bowl players 906 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: a year ago that not many teams have young budding 907 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: stars like that on their roster. Yeah, we met with 908 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: Josh week one, and this is a rookie getting ready 909 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: for his first NFL game, And we walked away from 910 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: that meeting saying, this guy's gonna be okay. This is 911 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: not gonna be a problem for him making the transition. 912 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: Mature has a killer instinct, though, and you can tell 913 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: how great he wants to be. And I think he 914 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: was soaking up so much of the knowledge from the 915 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: veterans on that team, and although maybe they're not gonna 916 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: be there anymore, for him, he's gonna benefit greatly from 917 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: that one year. Met with d J. Chark later in 918 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: the season. I did not know a whole lot about him. 919 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: You know, obviously a second round pick, so you had 920 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: a scouting report, but the personality side I didn't know, 921 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: And again walked away very impressed. There's a sense that 922 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: he can be trusted, that he's gonna do his job 923 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 1: well and that you're never gonna have to worry about 924 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: him his preparation. And also there's a fire there and 925 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: while he may not be the most outgoing necessarily, there 926 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: is something in in the inside that is burning for 927 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: him that he wants to be considered an elite wide 928 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: receiver and you look for that. To me, that's what 929 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: separates players. Everybody in the NFL has talent, Everybody that 930 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: gets to this point has legitimate ability. It's those just 931 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: subtle differences that can make the difference for a player 932 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: turning into a pro bowler, and DJ Stark showed that 933 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen showed the potential for that. So two players. 934 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: If if you're producing a media guide right now for 935 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, you're sticking these guys on the cover 936 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: and you're feeling good about it that they're going to 937 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: be a part of this culture for an extended period 938 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,399 Speaker 1: of time. Strange times. Obviously, I will appreciate your time 939 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: always to see you and talk to you. JP. Thank you. 940 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: I am desperately hoping to win a zoom Emmy in 941 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: a Zemi That's that's at the top of my my 942 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: to do list. Put it on the shelf behind you 943 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 1: to this is. This is my wife's office. 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Order from your local water Burger today. 1016 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Our final couple of moments of 1017 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: the program here JP Shadow Good your thanks to Jeff 1018 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: Logman Jaguars Analysts for joining US senior writer Jaguars dot Com, 1019 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: John Osier joining us I an Eagles CBS Sports video 1020 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: portion of that visit is available now on Jaguars dot Com. 1021 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: Some good thoughts there about some of the young talent 1022 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: on this Jaguars football team as we move ahead here, 1023 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: and you know they've they've got some guys to to 1024 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 1: build around and maybe do some things this year too. 1025 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: It's not now of the Reman possibility, as Tony Basili's 1026 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: always says, right, um, be positive. This is the time 1027 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: of year to be positive, and it's a good time 1028 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: to do that. So they do have some young talent 1029 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: on this team that that they can build around, and 1030 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: that's a start. That's something that not a lot of 1031 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,439 Speaker 1: places can really hang their hat on. So let's see 1032 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: if let's see if the Jaguars can can parlay that 1033 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: into something special. Some updates this week, The Competition Committee 1034 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: has expressed support for further analysis of on field officials 1035 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,919 Speaker 1: being assisted by personnel with access to a video feed. 1036 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: That means the sky Judge could be in the preseason 1037 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: this year. There's a meeting next week for the owners 1038 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: on and growing support for a fourth and fift team 1039 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: play instead of an on side kick. UH count me 1040 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: out on that when it east in the early going. 1041 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: You'll hear more about that in the coming days ahead. 1042 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: That'll do it for our program today, Thanks again to 1043 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: John Ocean, Jeff Logoman, I an eagle for our entire crew. 1044 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm JP Shadrick. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. 1045 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening on tinton A m in Jacksonville 1046 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: and on the Jaguars social media pages. We'll catch you 1047 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: next week on Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital 1048 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Network