WEBVTT - The Year in Elon, Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Elon Musk is.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the richest person on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>More than half the satellites in space are owned and

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<v Speaker 1>controlled by one man.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting his own artificial intelligence company. Well, he's a legitimate

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<v Speaker 4>super genius.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean legitimate.

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<v Speaker 4>He says.

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<v Speaker 5>He's always voted for Democrats, but this year it will

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<v Speaker 5>be different. He'll vote Republican.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a reason the US government is so reliant

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<v Speaker 4>on him. Alon Musk is a scam artist and he's

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<v Speaker 4>done nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>Anything he does is fascinating the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Elan and Holiday Special. I'm Max Chafkin,

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<v Speaker 4>still sitting here in the studio with Bloomberg Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 4>reporter Dana Hall and Bloomberg Big Tech chief Sarah Fryar.

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<v Speaker 4>Joining us as well is Ryan Broderick of the excellent

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<v Speaker 4>Garbage Day newsletter. Last week we went through the most

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<v Speaker 4>important stories of the year, and as listeners will remember, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I introduced a point system for our Know Your Elon contest.

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<v Speaker 4>Now right now here is where the points stand. And

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<v Speaker 4>again we're recording this in mid December. So Dana is

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<v Speaker 4>in the lead with three points. Sarah has two points.

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<v Speaker 4>And Ryan unfortunately is last with one solitary point, but

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<v Speaker 4>he can make up for it because we are throwing

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves into a new game. Ryan, I hope you're hydrated

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<v Speaker 4>before we start this. But this game is called most

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting of the Year. So as people follow him on

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk will know that Elon Musk often comments interesting

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<v Speaker 4>on top of a tweet, and they're off there, sometimes provocative,

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<v Speaker 4>there's sometimes I don't know, arguably offensive. They're sometimes funny,

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<v Speaker 4>there's sometimes nonsensical. I am going to read you all

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<v Speaker 4>four summaries of posts, and you have to tell me

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<v Speaker 4>the one that Elon Musk did not find interesting. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 4>so three of these were interesting and one of them

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<v Speaker 4>was not interesting? Okay? Are you all ready? Okay? The

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<v Speaker 4>first post okay, so so Post one argued that quote

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<v Speaker 4>only high t alpha males end quote autists should be

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<v Speaker 4>able to vote, okay. Post two was a post promoting

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<v Speaker 4>the opening of a film called Vindicating Trump by the

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<v Speaker 4>conservative commentator Denesh Desuza. Post three it was a lengthy

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<v Speaker 4>post This is hundreds of words long by JK Rowling

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<v Speaker 4>laying out her feelings on transidentity. Like I said, it

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<v Speaker 4>goes on and on. It's one of those ones you

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<v Speaker 4>have to click to expand it. It begins I believe

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<v Speaker 4>a woman is a human being who belongs to the

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<v Speaker 4>sex class that produces large gammeetes and goes on from there.

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<v Speaker 4>Post four was a series of photos of Jackie Chan,

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<v Speaker 4>the martial art artist and actor with a Donald Trump haircut.

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<v Speaker 4>So four posts, which one of those was not interesting?

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<v Speaker 4>According to Elon Musk Sarah Fryar Jackie Chan Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I would have thought Jackie Chan. But I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you threw it in there because it is real.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen the middle two like in real life. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go with the high team mails and autists

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<v Speaker 3>for number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Dana, You're both wrong, Dana, Wow. Okay, it is

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<v Speaker 4>either the the JK Rowling screed or the Denesh jesus

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<v Speaker 4>A film.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna say that an justus

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<v Speaker 7>A film.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, everyone's wrong. Okay, So this was but

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<v Speaker 4>this is a trick question. But but it's it's really

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<v Speaker 4>important because Elon did not find the rolling post interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>She did post it. That's a real post.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you find it concerning he act?

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<v Speaker 4>But he actually did he he must have been going

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<v Speaker 4>through a thing where he was worried there was too

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<v Speaker 4>much division on X, because he responded, while I heartily

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<v Speaker 4>agree with your points regarding sex gender, may I suggest

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<v Speaker 4>also posting interesting and positive content on other matters that's

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<v Speaker 4>so good, so debatable? He kind of implied that it

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<v Speaker 4>was interesting, but he he said also that it wasn't interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So I award no points to anyone for that for

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<v Speaker 4>that one, although I do feel like Ryan, You're you're

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<v Speaker 4>remembering the Jackie Chan series has gotta be worth that's

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<v Speaker 4>gotta be worth a sympathy point.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta go outside more often. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. Now the second topic here is concerning. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>these are four posts that Elon Musk found concerning. And

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<v Speaker 4>once again I am going to read you little excerpts

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<v Speaker 4>of these posts, and you're gonna tell me what did

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<v Speaker 4>not concern Elon Musk. Okay, all right, here's number one. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone pay attention. A post claiming that quote it's really

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<v Speaker 4>pointless to even attack Harris. She's just a puppet du jour,

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<v Speaker 4>and Biden is a puppet diyere. That's French for yesterday. Two,

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<v Speaker 4>an article complaining that signal the encrypted messaging service had

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<v Speaker 4>close ties to the US intelligence agencies. Post three was

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<v Speaker 4>one warning that rising unemployment and panic job cuts were coming. This,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, it turned out to be false. Post

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<v Speaker 4>four claimed that Google was rigging the twenty twenty four election.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Dana, you tell me which one of those

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<v Speaker 4>was not concerning an Elon. Now remember puppets, the puppet post,

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<v Speaker 4>the encrypted messaging, rising unemployment, Google rigging the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four election.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe the puppet post, because that seems like something that

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<v Speaker 7>Elon himself would actually say not be concerned about.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Dana is so good. Elon did not

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<v Speaker 4>did not find it concerning. He said it and two

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<v Speaker 4>points for Dana Hall okay, So so Dan is up

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<v Speaker 4>to five, Ryan is two, Sarah's two. Dana is running

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<v Speaker 4>away with this thing. But Sarah and Ryan, you still

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<v Speaker 4>have time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to lose to the masters.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's move on to another category. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>portion where we discuss parts of Elon Musk's business empire

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<v Speaker 4>that he is going to look into. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>super fans Elon heads will know that people often complain

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<v Speaker 4>to Elon Musk about, you know, various things that are

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<v Speaker 4>going on, and he'll say looking into it, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So now, now three of these are real. One of

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<v Speaker 4>them is not the first one a complaint that he

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<v Speaker 4>banned Luigi Mangioni's Twitter account. This is the alleged United

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<v Speaker 4>Healthcare shooter. Two is a suggestion that the quote deep

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<v Speaker 4>state could be undermined by a new government office that

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<v Speaker 4>would be in charge of declassifying documents. Three is a

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<v Speaker 4>report about high levels of absenteeism in Tesla's Berlin gigafactory.

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<v Speaker 4>And four is a complaint that Stripe the mobile paint

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<v Speaker 4>the payment service was refusing to process payments for libs

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<v Speaker 4>of TikTok, which is a right wing influencer account. So, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 4>which of these was Elon not looking into number two? Bingo?

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<v Speaker 8>All the rest I have to do with his company

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<v Speaker 8>is and he always says looking into it when it's

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<v Speaker 8>something that he's in charge of. But he's not in

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<v Speaker 8>charge of the deep state.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. See, I thought I was gonna fool you because

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<v Speaker 4>he is kind of in charge of the deep state

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<v Speaker 4>now with the DOGE. But no, you're right. That was

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<v Speaker 4>a suggestion by FBI nominee Cash Bettel. Elon said it

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<v Speaker 4>was a good idea, but he is not looking into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh good, okay, Okay, so that's two points of Sarah.

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<v Speaker 4>That means it's five for Dana, four for Sarah, two

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<v Speaker 4>for Ryan. We're gonna have to give Ryan a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to answer first on the next one, just to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure it's fair, because I'm getting some producer complaints in

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<v Speaker 4>my ear about questions of game integrity here. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>this is most beautiful. These were posts that Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 4>found beautiful and wrote that this is beautiful. And I

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<v Speaker 4>have four pictures. I'm gonna show you the pictures, Dan

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<v Speaker 4>and Sarah. You should have them ready loaded up. Ryan,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna just sort of move my last shot and

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<v Speaker 4>show me you, okay, picture number one, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>describe it for those who are not on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>It's okay, I know this one, okay. It's a picture

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<v Speaker 4>of Georgia Maloney and the Prime the Prime Minister of

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<v Speaker 4>Italy and Elon Musk sitting at a dinner looking at

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<v Speaker 4>each other, just with the most I mean, I don't know, Dana,

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<v Speaker 4>can you describe it a Morris?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, they're flirting, there's wine, it's you know, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Just it looks like such a good time. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's picture one. Picture two okay, Now it's a selfie

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<v Speaker 4>of a of a gentleman and who you probably don't recognize.

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<v Speaker 4>He's sort of wearing a flag pin. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>who he is though. This is a picture of Christopher Maccio,

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<v Speaker 4>who is a classical crossover vocalist known for performing at

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<v Speaker 4>Trump events. I believe that Dana and I saw him

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<v Speaker 4>at Madison Square Garden. I think he made this picture.

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<v Speaker 4>He may be at mar A Lago any, Dan, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. Do We were kind of walking out? Do

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<v Speaker 4>you remember how how was? How was the vocal stylings

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<v Speaker 4>of Christopher Maccio?

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<v Speaker 7>Did he perform? Is he the one who's saying America

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<v Speaker 7>the beautiful?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? Honestly, I don't know he's he's he's like

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<v Speaker 4>a Trump World singer, of course that exists. Yes, Okay, now, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's two. So Maloney Macchio, Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Now here's the third one. Okay, So this is a

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<v Speaker 4>an interior. It looks like something out of like Bride's

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<v Speaker 4>magazine or something. It's again, I'm gonna describe it quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a sort of a you know, like a sort

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<v Speaker 4>of white all white there, white roses. There's a bed.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like the nicest Airbnb you've ever stayed in.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay, don't give anything away. I guess you're answering first. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And here's number four, and again I don't quite know

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<v Speaker 4>how to describe this, but maybe I'll let Ryan do

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<v Speaker 4>the honors.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he So it's like the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 3>you'd see on like Dvian art where it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful woman back to the point of view of the picture,

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<v Speaker 3>hugging like a man in all black chain to the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like something like a seventeen year old will put

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<v Speaker 3>on MySpace twenty years ago, and like Elon loves this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's there. There was a caption which I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to read. I'd said, I believe in a bond that

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<v Speaker 4>transcends love, a salvation found in each other. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan Broderick, which of the picture which you're saying that

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<v Speaker 4>that was the one that he did not find beautiful? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I have bad news for.

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<v Speaker 9>You, man.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so confident.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a selfie of a random man.

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<v Speaker 4>I just assume it Okay, here's the thing. That answer

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<v Speaker 4>is wrong. But I feel a little bad because he

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<v Speaker 4>definitely was talking about the music being beautiful. He was

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<v Speaker 4>not saying that the selfie was beautiful. But still, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>gotta trip you up. Ok all right, let's give Sarah

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to steal.

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<v Speaker 8>He probably didn't didn't actually say beautiful about his dinner photo.

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<v Speaker 4>That is correct, he did not, and he has been

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<v Speaker 4>at pains I think to sort of, you know, not

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<v Speaker 4>make it seem like they're definitely in a romantic relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>and even may Musk has has chimed in at times.

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<v Speaker 2>I ship them, but I understand.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that was a little tricky and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps unfair. But nonetheless, Sarah is in the lead, Dana

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<v Speaker 4>has five points, and Ryan is still stuck it at two.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 4>So now we have another game. This one is called

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<v Speaker 4>No Your Rogan. Okay, So we're gonna play a series

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<v Speaker 4>of clips and you are going to have to this

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<v Speaker 4>is another two pointer. You're gonna have to identify who

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Rogan is talking to in the context of the comments.

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<v Speaker 4>And now there are only three choices, and the choices

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<v Speaker 4>are Donald Trump, Elon Musk, or Bob Gimlin, who is

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<v Speaker 4>a crypto zoologist.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone who studies fantasy beasts and creatures. Yeah right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this might be easy because I think some of

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<v Speaker 4>us have listened to some of these episodes. But nonetheless, again,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, so let's start with the first clip.

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<v Speaker 2>If there was a life on a planet and we

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<v Speaker 2>could introduce our DNA into these lower primates and make

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<v Speaker 2>them more like us, you don't think we would do.

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<v Speaker 4>It, Ryan Brodrick, what is the who is he talking to?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he talking to a cryptozoologist, Donald Trump or Elon Musk?

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<v Speaker 4>And what is the context?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it would be so funny if he was talking

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<v Speaker 3>to Trump. It would be so funny if you just

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<v Speaker 3>talk about like making monkey human hybrids with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say Elon Musk, and I'm gonna say it

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<v Speaker 3>has something to do with like gene splicing or transhumanism,

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<v Speaker 3>or like making sort of animal hybrid debt slaves to

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<v Speaker 3>work on Mars or something.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's hear the clip, Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>If we had the technology to do what allegedly the

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<v Speaker 3>aliens alledged aliens do, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Would beat all sorts of crazy stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just so as you could hear, he's not talking

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<v Speaker 4>to Elon Musk or Donald Trump. He's talking to the

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<v Speaker 4>cryptozoologist about alien tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so unfortunately that's another.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take the I'm actually happy to not know what

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<v Speaker 2>goes on on that podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's immediately go to a new clip. Here's Rogan again.

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<v Speaker 4>It cleans your mind, It cleans your mind, Dana Hall,

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<v Speaker 4>who is Joe Rogan talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is he talking about?

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<v Speaker 7>He's talking to Elon Musk about like eating meat or

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<v Speaker 7>like something consumable.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's hear the clip. Golf as you get older, there's

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<v Speaker 4>something really good about it. And competition with competition concentrations

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<v Speaker 4>a great handicaps for it. All right, So self explanatory,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump talking to Trump about playing golf. All right, here's

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<v Speaker 4>the third clip, video evidence, radar evidence. Okay, Rogan said,

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<v Speaker 4>video evidence, Comma, radar evidence. What do you think, Sarah Fryar?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it.

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<v Speaker 8>Elon Musk talking about immigration?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear the clip. And they said, we saw think, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>Very strange, like a round ball, but it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>combat or maybe it was something.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Ryan gets a point there for for chiming

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<v Speaker 4>with aliens. Yes, that's that's Donald Trump and Joe Rogan,

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<v Speaker 4>the president elect of the United States and the most

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<v Speaker 4>popular broadcaster in America talking about aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>See that's why Rogan is popular. If I got to

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<v Speaker 3>sit down with any president, I'd be like, what's the

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<v Speaker 3>deal with aliens?

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<v Speaker 2>And like that's good. That's good radio. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>good podcasting.

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<v Speaker 4>Legit, no joke, You're right, all right, next clip, we

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<v Speaker 4>only have two more. Here's here's the second last clip.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be terribly surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Cryptozoologist Elon Musk, Donald Trump, And then what is the context?

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<v Speaker 3>I would be terribly surprised, Yes, like would it surprise

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<v Speaker 3>you to learn that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? Just figure pretty like if someone like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be surprised. Shot in the dark, all right, Yes, indeed

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<v Speaker 4>it was. It was the cryptozoologist talking about the possibility

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<v Speaker 4>that Bigfoot would get hit by the bus. For anyone

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<v Speaker 4>wondering what just happened there, Ryan was, I think on

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<v Speaker 4>his way to getting the answer correctly. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if he would have got Bigfoot. But our producers accidentally

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<v Speaker 4>hit the reveal button a little too early. But you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I think we have to give Ryan credit because,

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, it was on the tip of his tongue.

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan is up to five points. Now it's six to

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<v Speaker 4>five five. We've got a tight contest here. And the

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<v Speaker 4>last question is going to go to Dana. Here's the clip.

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<v Speaker 6>Just the fact that they have the resources to do

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<v Speaker 6>that when they have all the crime that they have.

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<v Speaker 4>Dana, who's Joe Rogan talking to and what is talking

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<v Speaker 4>to him?

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<v Speaker 2>About Trump?

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<v Speaker 7>And something about immigration?

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah, I'll go to you. Now, think about crime stories

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<v Speaker 4>that that dominated the news over the last two months.

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<v Speaker 8>Is it about ballots?

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<v Speaker 4>Just the fact that they have the resources to do

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<v Speaker 4>that when they have all that crime that they have. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>now this is this is a story related to law breaking,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's of a specific variety of law and breaking.

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<v Speaker 4>It has to do with violating the rules about animals

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<v Speaker 4>at home. Oh wait, he's talking about Excel in the UK.

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<v Speaker 7>It peanut the squirrel. He was talking Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Peanut does squirrel?

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<v Speaker 4>And who is he talking to? Dan? That's right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let's hear that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Still pretty shoke about the freaking squirrel thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>At gunpoint, forced the guy.

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<v Speaker 10>To like stay outside his house while they got his

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<v Speaker 10>pets and killed them.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, you know, violent felons are running free.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, just to remind listeners, Peanut the squirrel was an illicit,

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<v Speaker 4>allegedly illicit squirrel owned by a influencer who was, according

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<v Speaker 4>to Elon and many especially on the right, was cruelly

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<v Speaker 4>taken from his home euthanized tested for rabies. This was

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<v Speaker 4>like the It actually might have happened in November, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was like the closest thing we had in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four to an October surprise that ends the game.

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<v Speaker 4>The big winner today is Dana and I believe Ryan

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<v Speaker 4>and Sarah were tied for second, but in my book,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's a winner. Dana Hall, congratulations, Oh what do I win?

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<v Speaker 7>What's the prize? Max?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we discussed that and we haven't figured it out

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<v Speaker 4>all right, So we have one last part of this

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<v Speaker 4>holiday spectacular for you, and it's gonna be predictions. Now

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<v Speaker 4>just to I'm gonna ask all of you to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about what you think is gonna happen. But we're just

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<v Speaker 4>gonna play a little tape of colleagues and friends of

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<v Speaker 4>the show. Talking about like what they see as their

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk predictions.

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<v Speaker 6>I got two predictions for this year for Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 6>The first is that he's gonna fold x social network

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<v Speaker 6>formerly known as Twitter into Xai. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be a way for him to basically salvage that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>struggling business get investors away out by merging those two companies.

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<v Speaker 6>And then second is that we're going to see some

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<v Speaker 6>kind of boys trip with Elon and Donald Trump going

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<v Speaker 6>to visit. I'm going to say, Kim John Noon this year,

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<v Speaker 6>I have to just have a hunch that there's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be some very controversial weekend vacation for those guys.

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<v Speaker 9>My expectation for Elon Musk in twenty twenty five is

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<v Speaker 9>that he will continue to fly out the law on

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<v Speaker 9>corporate governance and other issues and believe that you know,

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<v Speaker 9>he's somehow special and he won't he doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 9>follow the same rules and customs that you know, the

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<v Speaker 9>little people follow.

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<v Speaker 10>My prediction for Doge is that Elon and Vivig are

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<v Speaker 10>going to get nowhere near the two trillion dollars that

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<v Speaker 10>they've proposed to cut unless you stretch the window for

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<v Speaker 10>cutting two trillion dollars to like one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess my big prediction is that we are going

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<v Speaker 5>to learn something new on the fertility front. It could

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<v Speaker 5>be more babies that Elon's had. I think the current

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<v Speaker 5>number is twelve or thirteen. It could be some sort

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<v Speaker 5>of you know place, maybe in Texas. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>that we are going to learn more about how Elon

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<v Speaker 5>has been personally trying to fill the earth with more children.

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<v Speaker 5>That is more prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>So in twenty twenty five, I'm wondering, will Elon somehow

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<v Speaker 1>you stage to put his thumb on scale to help

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<v Speaker 1>his own companies. There's obvious ones like the FAA could

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<v Speaker 1>really help SpaceX if it wanted to.

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<v Speaker 4>But what about the FDA.

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<v Speaker 1>Could he use that to somehow really help Neuralink or

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Chain Insportation to help warn That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be watching.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, Papadoppolois here, I've got a whole slew of predictions,

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<v Speaker 11>praying that at least one of them proves to be correct.

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<v Speaker 11>First off, I've got those of the Committee scoring a

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<v Speaker 11>couple big early victories, you know, like permanent daylight savings

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<v Speaker 11>time or something. And then the whole thing fizzling out

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<v Speaker 11>pretty badly, sparking curiously a rally in doged the cryptocurrency. Next,

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<v Speaker 11>I've got the valuations of SpaceX and Tesla converging throughout

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<v Speaker 11>the year. Then I've got friend of Pod Kurt Wagner,

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<v Speaker 11>breaking down and buying a cyber truck. Lastly, of course,

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<v Speaker 11>a horse tip. You know, me being the gambling degenerate

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<v Speaker 11>and all. I've got a cult by the name of

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<v Speaker 11>the Chancer mcpatrick winning the one hundred and fifty first

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<v Speaker 11>running of the Kentucky Derby.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea if that's a real course. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>So that was Kurt Wagner, Jeff Feely, Josh Green, Rayhan Harmancy,

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah McBride, and our host, our normal host anyway, David Papadopolis.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Sarah, most plausible least plausible predictions.

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<v Speaker 8>That we just hurt Kurt getting a cybertruck.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that most plausible or the least plausible?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think least plausible, But anything is possible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>it's definitely possible that dose is gonna fizzle and turn

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<v Speaker 8>into a disaster and not cut the trillions that wants

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<v Speaker 8>to cut.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean not everyone. So there were some very safe

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<v Speaker 4>there were some very set safe bets here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I definitely think they're gonna get rid of Dali

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<v Speaker 3>Zavi sent I'm rooting for them.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like such an easy, obvious, pulled from a deep storyline

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<v Speaker 3>thing that could happen, that they'll do and then they'll

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is totally gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I welcome the Daylight Savings repeal and also all the

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 4>quirky things, like the opportunity for just just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>government to get weird. I'd say, is like one of

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, one of the things I'm most looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to in twenty twenty five. Dana, what about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think a boys trip to North Korea is

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the cards like our colleague Kurt Wagner.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was another good one.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, I thought that was that was an intriguing one.

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<v Speaker 7>I could definitely see a boy's trip to like Hungary

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<v Speaker 7>to visit like Victor Orbon more than North Korea. But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Trump does really like to talk about North Korea,

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<v Speaker 7>so I could be wrong. I think the most plausible

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<v Speaker 7>one is more on the fertility front. Of course I'm

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<v Speaker 7>biased because we've written a lot about that, but more

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<v Speaker 7>babyhon suggestion was good, Yeah, more more children.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think if you had to, if you had

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<v Speaker 4>to put a number on.

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<v Speaker 7>It, well, you need a lot of people to populate

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<v Speaker 7>this Morris colony. And you know, I think we've talked

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<v Speaker 7>about this. Maybe we need to do a special segment.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, Musk is always very by Genghis Khan

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<v Speaker 7>and like I would not, I mean, he has fathered

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<v Speaker 7>twelve children that we know of, with an emphasis of

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<v Speaker 7>on the that we know of.

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<v Speaker 4>Part I just want to remind everyone that we did

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<v Speaker 4>this podcast last time and I predicted that Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 4>and Georgia Maloney would come closer together. And although again

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<v Speaker 4>as as I said, Elon has denied having a romantic

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<v Speaker 4>relationship with Maloney, I feel like that picture. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I really am proud of my prediction. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>That was a smart one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we still have ten, ten fifteen days left of

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<v Speaker 2>the year.

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<v Speaker 4>We're recording this on December eleventh. Everyone, Yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 4>could you might be right?

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's let's all give our you know, prediction

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<v Speaker 4>for twenty twenty five the year in Elon Musk, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 4>why don't you start one that I forget, like where

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<v Speaker 4>I sort of saw the idea, this idea, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's smart, which is that either ex buys.

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Truth Social or truth Social buys X or there's some

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.400
<v Speaker 3>sort of consolidation there.

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that just.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes well, maybe it won't happen because it makes too

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<v Speaker 3>much sense with these guys, like they don't really operate

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 3>that way. But that to me just feels like it's

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 3>dying to happen. And I feel like it might happen

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<v Speaker 3>if Blue Sky becomes more successful and someone explains what

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<v Speaker 3>Federation is to Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, mind meld, that is exactly my That

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<v Speaker 4>was my answer as well, and that is not in

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<v Speaker 4>your computer, that is my was it really? That is

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<v Speaker 4>an idea that we have flowed on this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like every time I bring it up, I get

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<v Speaker 4>made fun of, But I think that they I think

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<v Speaker 4>it could happen. I think that you know, True Social

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<v Speaker 4>is has a public listing, it doesn't really have an audience.

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk has this private company that could really use

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<v Speaker 4>a public listing. I feel like, Sarah, you need to

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<v Speaker 4>like throw cold water on this idea before Ryan and I,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, start, why.

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<v Speaker 8>Would you want to? I mean, I just don't see

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<v Speaker 8>that being that beneficial for Elon like to have true

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<v Speaker 8>social I think it's more likely that he will will

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<v Speaker 8>somehow end up with the US version of TikTok because

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<v Speaker 8>it needs to be it needs to be divested to

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<v Speaker 8>a US owner, and like Trump has said he will

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<v Speaker 8>save it. He didn't say how.

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<v Speaker 3>How would that deal work though, because hasn't bite Edan

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<v Speaker 3>said that, like they don't care enough about TikTok to

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<v Speaker 3>like in.

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<v Speaker 8>All truths. I don't think it's gonna happen. But it's

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<v Speaker 8>a it's a fun conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just bringing it up to say how ridiculous bringing

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<v Speaker 4>it up to.

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<v Speaker 8>Say that, Like, it's just as implausible, you know what.

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<v Speaker 8>I what is more plausible I think is in the

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<v Speaker 8>realm of social media, is that we'll start to see

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<v Speaker 8>maybe a bit of a true slash light friendship developed

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<v Speaker 8>between Zuckerberg and Musk, who we have previously discussed as

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<v Speaker 8>cage match rivals.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I like that, all right, Dana. What's your prediction

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<v Speaker 4>for twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh gosh, so many Well, I'm really curious, I guess

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<v Speaker 7>I'm curious about the sam Altman feud and where that

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<v Speaker 7>lands and if there's a daytonte or whether there's an escalation.

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 7>You know, there was a there was a story that

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<v Speaker 7>they like briefly like hung around pit a bonfire together

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 7>Valley hugged, hugged or something. But then now that's now

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<v Speaker 7>the lawsuit is back on and Chavon Zillis is now

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<v Speaker 7>named as part of that lawsuit. So I really love

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<v Speaker 7>to know like how much equity she has an open

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<v Speaker 7>AI and why she's now a plaintiff in that suit.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's like sort of one bucket, I guess. The

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<v Speaker 7>other geopolitical bucket I'm really curious about is China and Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 7>and like what like Elon's Elon's dependency on China, his

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<v Speaker 7>relationship with China, his factory in China is just such

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<v Speaker 7>a big part of this whole potential tariff trade war

0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 7>Taiwan chips like it. Like, I would love visibility into

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<v Speaker 7>into what Elon does their visa VI the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I definitely think something in hearing some of these

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<v Speaker 4>like Blue Sky, we didn't really talk about Blue Sky.

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<v Speaker 4>It's growing really fast and and like maybe when we

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<v Speaker 4>do this in a year, that is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the thing we're talking about. And then China absolutely like

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<v Speaker 4>it's you know, this seems like a real point of

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<v Speaker 4>contention between Trump and Elon potentially or between like Trump

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<v Speaker 4>supporters and Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 7>I have one more, which is that you know, Rfk

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<v Speaker 7>is going to be confirmed for the head of HHS,

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<v Speaker 7>even though there's a lot of opposition to it. And

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<v Speaker 7>then you're going to see ketamine and psychondel, mushrooms and

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<v Speaker 7>m DNA and all kinds of therapies that uh, you

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<v Speaker 7>know that not just Musk but his brother Kimball and

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 7>Antonio Grassias, like Silicon Valley is very into psychedelics, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think you're just going to see like a sea

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<v Speaker 7>change happen where you know, it's just going to become normal.

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 7>It's going to become an increasingly allowed I mean, it

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<v Speaker 7>is allowed in some states under some circumstances, right, But

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<v Speaker 7>I just think you're going to you're gonna see kind

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<v Speaker 7>of Silicon Valley in this administration and breaks embrace psychonelex

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<v Speaker 7>for therapy in a way that no one could have predicted.

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<v Speaker 4>I look forward to doing this podcast in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five in December, high as heck on ketamine.

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Your teeth are just.

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Totally rotted out from lack of fluoride, and you're just

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<v Speaker 3>out of your mind on ketymine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds all right. Last question and then we

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<v Speaker 4>can end this glorious holiday special. Were and this came

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<v Speaker 4>up earlier, but you know, you see a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people making predictions. I think Ryan actually brought it up

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<v Speaker 4>very early on. But the idea that at some point

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<v Speaker 4>Trump and Elon will inevitably have a falling out, and

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<v Speaker 4>I want everyone to give me a predicted date of

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<v Speaker 4>when it's going to happen and how it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan Broderick, you start hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just googling how long Amurosa made it, and it

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 3>seems like she was designed January twenty eighteen. So do

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<v Speaker 3>I think Elon Musk has the juice to stay in

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 3>the succession orbit longer or shorter than Amerosa? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say he hangs on for the whole first year,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 4>He sticks.

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<v Speaker 3>He stays till like let's say twenty twenty six. Early

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>in the year he's gone like February February twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>Now is there a conflict or does he just gently leave?

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Is it on good terms or porter?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Trump likes mixings up, kind of like in

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<v Speaker 3>certain cycles. I feel like the first year, everything kind

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<v Speaker 3>of holds still, and then I feel like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start to shadow really fast as we get close to

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<v Speaker 3>the midterms and he starts to panic and he starts

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 3>to fire people. So I think that's that's how long

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk has. Okay, that's a well considered prediction. Sarah Fryar,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you what do you got?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm I'm the one who thought Linda Yakarino

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't last more than in a few weeks, and she's

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 8>still at at stilcio of X. So I'm gonna I'm

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 8>gonna give this one a little more time. It's a

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 8>big investment that he made, and he seems pretty dedicated

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 8>to it. I think if it falls apart, it's going

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 8>to be on on Trump's terms, since Elon seems to

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<v Speaker 8>just want to be at our alago all the time

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 8>and have a hand in the building of this administration.

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 4>So give us a date.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he just gets distracted by something else at

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 8>some point. I think, you know, by this summer of

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 8>next year, we're not really gonna hear about Musk in DC.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 4>So you're saying, like July, so lay the groundwork.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 8>Five, be involved in this big decisions and then like

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 8>go back to his companies for a little bit.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Dana.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe I'm gonna I'm gonna give a longer Leach. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going to say, August twenty twenty six, He's got eighteen

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 7>months to do Doge. He really wants to do Doge.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 7>She wants to. He wants to, you know, do as

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<v Speaker 7>much as he can in the next eighteen months. And

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<v Speaker 7>then and then maybe once the Doge project is done,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 7>he'll he'll he'll be you know, he won't be as

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<v Speaker 7>much of a fixture, but I feel like he's gonna be.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 7>He's gonna be thick as thieves with Trump for the

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 7>foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree. I think he's gonna make it past the midterm.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know I passed the midterm. Yeah, the

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 4>money thing. Yeah, now, I don't know. I mean it's

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>like hearing everyone make these like very like relatively optimistic.

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I thought someone was going to say like a week

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 4>from now or something, which which had been the conventional wisdom.

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 8>We learned our lesson with the Yakarino.

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah and the money. Yeah, I'm saying you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>There Elon is is on the campaign trail with JD

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<v Speaker 4>Vance and Donald Trump Junior in twenty twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 4>they are all friends. That's my prediction. Wow. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>that does it for our New Year's special. Guys, had

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<v Speaker 4>a great time hanging out with you, laughing about the

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<v Speaker 4>year that we had and predicting the year to come.

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<v Speaker 4>And we at Elon Ink will be there to cover it.

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<v Speaker 4>Write us, let us know what you think. Elon Inc.

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<v Speaker 4>At Bloomberg dot Net. Dana Hall, Sarah Fryar, Ryan Broderick,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you all for being here, Thank you for.

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<v Speaker 8>Having me, Thanks for having us so awesome.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Max. Epic episode.

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<v Speaker 4>This episode was produced by Stacey Wong. Annamsarakis is our

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