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Speaker 1: a part of a legendary group that we only got
Speaker 1: one album groups. He was disappointed. We're gonna get into that.
Speaker 1: He's hip hop's first activists, that gangsters in the hip
Speaker 1: hop Clane and the backpackers in hip hop claim. He
Speaker 1: stepped up for us in Ferguson when nobody else was.
Speaker 1: He told that guy that was in seeing it, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that later, that you're reporting on black
Speaker 1: culture in a disrespectful way. And he told it to
Speaker 1: him intelligently and live to this day, people still don't
Speaker 1: respect this guy's Don Lemons news reporting skills. Since that day,
Speaker 1: it's been different from Mr. Le said, I had this
Speaker 1: guy number. The first thing I wanted to do was
Speaker 1: text him. Is he thank you? But he's a hip
Speaker 1: hop activist. He's one of the realest people. He's He's
Speaker 1: a hip hop pure lyricist, pure lyricists. He's worked with
Speaker 1: the likes of Kanye West, jay Z, Freeway, you name him.
Speaker 1: He's been in the studio or had something to do
Speaker 1: with them being great. Right now, we have Toddler quality
Speaker 1: in the building. Make so fucking oh man, oh Man,
Speaker 1: the leg man, the legend. You gonna make a black
Speaker 1: man man. Listen. By the way, let me just say something.
Speaker 1: I've seen you in l A and I got a
Speaker 1: chance to tell you how much I appreciated the statement,
Speaker 1: the acts, and the courageousness that you portrayed during the
Speaker 1: Ferguson and you're going out there. First off, just representing
Speaker 1: for us. And then second off, when people were reporting
Speaker 1: four stories, you immediately corrected this guy and he did
Speaker 1: an intelligent way. You could have been like, tell our
Speaker 1: motherfucker you know what I'm saying, that's how I feel
Speaker 1: about donal Lemon. But you didn't. You did it respectful?
Speaker 1: How How did how did that translate? We get the
Speaker 1: full story? Yeah, and we don't need to pull it
Speaker 1: out politically answer nobody to followers. Yeah, but first of all,
Speaker 1: before I get into that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to the family and Michael
Speaker 1: Brown and Michael Brown's mom and Michael Brown Senior, and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, because you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things that was lost in the conversation with
Speaker 1: me and Don Lemon was the fact that I was
Speaker 1: out there to represent for Michael Brown exactly. And one
Speaker 1: thing that I you know, I tried to do not
Speaker 1: have no regrets in life, but that we had to
Speaker 1: actually to drink. Okay, well known sound little too. So
Speaker 1: that is your bottom. That is your bottom, you know,
Speaker 1: hens and sponsored some of the worst moments in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sponsing some of the worst moments of life. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: go ahead, you and ferguson. Um. Yeah, so I went
Speaker 1: down there. You know, I'll be on you did not
Speaker 1: get paid to be in, Fergus No, no, don Lemon
Speaker 1: got paid to be in. That's right, go ahead continue.
Speaker 1: I was on t be on Twitter a lot, and
Speaker 1: you'd be arguing on fools, I do. I think you know?
Speaker 1: Jay Z said if you argue with foods from a distance,
Speaker 1: they can't tell who's who. Yeah, who's the wise man?
Speaker 1: But I tell him come a little closer, and it's
Speaker 1: very apparent everything come a little closer. Just if you
Speaker 1: come a little closer, you can see I's saying what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. But you know what I'm saying. Like, Um,
Speaker 1: I was talking on Twitter to people who was retweeting
Speaker 1: and people a lot of times people on social network
Speaker 1: think that they activist because they retweet something, because they
Speaker 1: post something nice and positive on Facebook. Um, and that's
Speaker 1: that's all good. But unless you have bodies on the ground,
Speaker 1: unless the flesh is involved, there's nothing really really happening.
Speaker 1: So I found myself being hypocritical because I'm talking about
Speaker 1: this on on Twitter. Right, my man, um Ja Cole
Speaker 1: went down there. You know what I'm saying like these
Speaker 1: are artist I think maybe Jeez Young Jeez went down
Speaker 1: there before me. So I've seen other artists go down
Speaker 1: up that I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: could go there, and I'm here on Twitter talking about it.
Speaker 1: Let me go down there. I'm an artist, I'm my
Speaker 1: own boss. I don't have a schedule I have to
Speaker 1: adhere to. I could go down there. So I went
Speaker 1: down there, and I was happy to see my man
Speaker 1: Philip Agnews a lot who's here in Miami, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. From Dream Defenders. He was down there.
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen uh Patrese from Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: down there. I see people that are already funk with
Speaker 1: down there, So I felt like I was in the
Speaker 1: right place. I met my man test Po artists from St. Louis,
Speaker 1: very talent to them. See he's on my last album
Speaker 1: Knife wonder Um, which are you on? He's on the Sore.
Speaker 1: My man Teft Poe, and my man Tory Russell Um.
Speaker 1: They was down there. They was on the front lines.
Speaker 1: And my first night down there, To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I kind of went down there on something like I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna show my face. Okay, I'm gonna drink. I see,
Speaker 1: I got to drink. I'm sorry. I was gonna show
Speaker 1: my face to be real with you, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I wasn't planning on getting in, no
Speaker 1: type of action or not. You just wanted to be
Speaker 1: I'm just swaying show solidarity. You got maced or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it was no. I didn't get made,
Speaker 1: but they sprayed tear gas in the air. I was
Speaker 1: infected me a little bit. I had to peep the
Speaker 1: cops and uh, you know, agitated the people, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and they chased us down. I was
Speaker 1: down there with Rosa Clemente, who's a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: Jessica care More was a poet. Um cops and some
Speaker 1: young people. They chased us down to be related because
Speaker 1: that's my cousin. She's not, but she is Puerto Rican cousin.
Speaker 1: She is. She is Puerto Rican. Part of how many
Speaker 1: days into the protest is this when you get there?
Speaker 1: This is as soon as I got there. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying how many days had the protests? Okay, they've been
Speaker 1: going going on about a week before, maybe maybe two
Speaker 1: weeks before. I got down there, and you know, the
Speaker 1: people on the front line, I've seen that they needed
Speaker 1: a voice that I've seen that they needed representation. Shout
Speaker 1: out to my man Benzineo. I've seen him down there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: other artists I can't think of right now, but Teest
Speaker 1: Paul is rolling with Test Poe in them. And Um,
Speaker 1: I was down there for about a week. I got
Speaker 1: asked to do a lot of press. I turned a
Speaker 1: lot of it down. I did Democracy Now, Amy Goodman. Um,
Speaker 1: I did a Joy and Reed show. But I was
Speaker 1: turning a lot of the press down because I wasn't
Speaker 1: down there as a rapper. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the people. Yes, I got asked to do CNN. UM.
Speaker 1: I had never met Don Lemon. Um. I went down
Speaker 1: there to do the thing with him. And this is
Speaker 1: the night before he said I smell weed, or this
Speaker 1: is about a few months before that. Oh he said
Speaker 1: he smelled when I was a few months before he
Speaker 1: smelled the weed. Um. You know, Don Lemon is somebody
Speaker 1: that you know, even to this day, I clowned to
Speaker 1: make fun of him. I had a little altercation with
Speaker 1: him on the air, but I have respect for him
Speaker 1: as as a human being. You know, a gay man,
Speaker 1: black man on CNN. Yeah, he came out and Anderson
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know
Speaker 1: they did they, Um, I went, I went down there.
Speaker 1: I was very excited to do the interview with Dominant,
Speaker 1: and I was surprised at the way that he conducted
Speaker 1: the interview. And I think my shocking, my surprise. Me
Speaker 1: being used to doing interviews in a certain way as
Speaker 1: an artist was different from me doing interviews as I
Speaker 1: don't think Don Lemon understood my, my, my, who I was,
Speaker 1: what I was doing down there. I was just somebody
Speaker 1: who was there. He had no frame of reference. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't know you beforehand. Nah, we never met him.
Speaker 1: Might have been from St. Louis, Yeah, I could have
Speaker 1: been some rappers for St. Louis. No disrespect to rap
Speaker 1: rappers from St. Louis, because you know, those are the
Speaker 1: voices like my man teft Pope. And I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: people who was rappers from there, they know what was
Speaker 1: up for real, Like really they should have interviewed teft Poe. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying they were walking by now. They
Speaker 1: called meers. CNN called me a lot. They called me
Speaker 1: a lot. The real story is, they called me a lot.
Speaker 1: They called me like like ten times like and I
Speaker 1: said no, no, no, no no. And they said Anderson
Speaker 1: Cooper was going to do the story. And you know,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Anderson Cooper, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. When I got down there, they had
Speaker 1: Don Lemon. I didn't you know. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: Don Lemon, cool? Was you all of Don leman problems? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't have no I didn't have no opinion to him.
Speaker 1: I was aware him. I knew he was on CNN.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I didn't. I wasn't a fan.
Speaker 1: I wasn't not a fan. I didn't know who. I
Speaker 1: just knew he was famous, you know, black dude on CNN.
Speaker 1: So I did an interview with him, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I just didn't like the way that, you know, I
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, Don Lemon is on CNN on
Speaker 1: TV a lot. I feel like, if you called me
Speaker 1: to interview me, you want to hear what I gotta say.
Speaker 1: As soon as I started speaking. He started speaking, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and my gut instinct kicked in,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like I said, with
Speaker 1: the started this, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: wish I would have talked more about Michael Brown instead
Speaker 1: of getting into it. Limit No, but you know what
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was necessary for the time because, um, you being
Speaker 1: on the ground, you probably didn't see all of the
Speaker 1: news footage. Me being on the road at the time,
Speaker 1: I did see all the news footage, and he just
Speaker 1: wasn't it was. It was, you know, Um well, all
Speaker 1: due respect to him, because I've never met Donal, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying of me judging him is absolutely
Speaker 1: pre prejudiced because I've never met a guy right, never
Speaker 1: been in front of him. But from what I see,
Speaker 1: he's what represents the Uncle Tom he's been represents like
Speaker 1: the people who don't understand the struggle, the people who
Speaker 1: don't understand that Mike Brown was innocently killed, the people
Speaker 1: don't understand the trade of on mines that he was.
Speaker 1: He was the epitome of the black guy who doesn't
Speaker 1: understand our struggle. So although your your your plot, put
Speaker 1: him in your your confrontation with him, uh might have
Speaker 1: took away from what Mike Brown. It also shed light
Speaker 1: on the situation that listen, brother, if you if you're
Speaker 1: one of us, you gotta be one of us. And
Speaker 1: if you're not, then you're just not. I think he
Speaker 1: does because I think as a black gay dude, he
Speaker 1: understands that. I didn't know he was gay. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he understands it. I think he goes through it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that somebody who works in
Speaker 1: the mainstream media, right, I think he understands it. But
Speaker 1: you know, people who work for a living, and we
Speaker 1: don't have jobs, and a lot of us compromised our
Speaker 1: gut feelings and our more rules and compromise who we
Speaker 1: are as people. For that check, Don Lemon is there
Speaker 1: to represent CNN CNN as a corporate interest. He's not
Speaker 1: there like that. He represents CNN. Let's make some noise
Speaker 1: for then, not not CNN. Like you know, the officials,
Speaker 1: CNN turns kind of hood to gangster ship. The other
Speaker 1: bad guys. We can't put that there. Come on, the
Speaker 1: other bad guys, come on. But I think that he represents.
Speaker 1: He was doing his job. The moment I spoke out
Speaker 1: against mainstream media, I didn't even say CNN. He took
Speaker 1: offense to me saying mainstream media is a problem. He
Speaker 1: looked at CNN as being a part of mainstream media.
Speaker 1: He took offense to me dissing his team. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. And the conversation got missing because he was like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, seeing that is fair. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm fair. I feel like I'm worked for seeing that.
Speaker 1: I'm fair. You know what I'm saying. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he represents the mainstream The mainstream media job
Speaker 1: is to enable the status quo, and it convinces that
Speaker 1: the status quo is okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like Seeing, then, the only reason Seeing was down there
Speaker 1: was in the hopes that there would be a riot.
Speaker 1: The only reason the MSNBC, even the yeah, even even
Speaker 1: the left wing I'm not talking about Fox News and
Speaker 1: all the bullshit, but even the left wing, supposedly on
Speaker 1: our side, media is down there because they hope that
Speaker 1: some violence will. If there wasn't a dread of violence,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be down there. So then they tell you
Speaker 1: we shouldn't write. They tell you we shouldn't burn down
Speaker 1: the CBS, and I agree with that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't think violence solve anyone, CBS or CBS.
Speaker 1: CBS understandship CBS. I think that you know they don
Speaker 1: Lemon was doing his job very well. I like you
Speaker 1: for being political. He was not. That's not even that's
Speaker 1: not even politics money, that's just real ship like like
Speaker 1: he was doing the job. Now, you and me as artists.
Speaker 1: The reason you could call yourself Noria, the reason you
Speaker 1: could do a podcast, say whatever the funk you want
Speaker 1: because you are artist. You have no boss talking about it,
Speaker 1: You have no boy. Keep going, keep going. You see
Speaker 1: what you're going. You see what Laura Hill don't show
Speaker 1: up to a show. Everybody get mad. Guess what you
Speaker 1: could be mad, But guess what, So the funk what
Speaker 1: she don't work for you? She could She could show
Speaker 1: up when she feels like showing up and guess she
Speaker 1: don't feel like it. She don't have to show up.
Speaker 1: Something personal happen in her life. She could be like
Speaker 1: I'm chilling today. She hasn't arranged it with the venue owner,
Speaker 1: the promoter, and you have you have. You don't know it.
Speaker 1: You're not privy to that. So the only person she
Speaker 1: might owe something to is somebody that you're not even
Speaker 1: privy too. As artists, we have no boss, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people caught up in the debt system,
Speaker 1: in the slavery system, and they think they have bosses
Speaker 1: that people that have to report to. That's not something
Speaker 1: that I'm judging. You can't be judgmental. People got to
Speaker 1: do to survive, you know what I'm saying. You can't
Speaker 1: judge that. But you've got to understand the difference between
Speaker 1: somebody you know and and it's the same thing as
Speaker 1: a gangster. Like a gangster has no boss. Like most death,
Speaker 1: he's an r e for real, He's going to run, right?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Hold on what happened? He just said,
Speaker 1: Fuck America. You know, I think y'all seen babe. You
Speaker 1: want to visit him? I went to visit in Africa
Speaker 1: and South let's just make some noise for the nigga
Speaker 1: going back home. That just makes I ain't got the heart.
Speaker 1: They ain't got a w in Africa, right, I can't
Speaker 1: they got they got a home away of Airbnb. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of Nbnb yet now I'm not matter.
Speaker 1: I don't found with Airbnb. But listen, y'all seen Bay
Speaker 1: he decided it a long time ago. If you pay
Speaker 1: attention to his moves, that he wasn't funking with America
Speaker 1: a long time. That's hard, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And um, he traveled the world. You know he's an
Speaker 1: internationally no artist. He is settled in South Africa. He
Speaker 1: do got some leaders. He had an international passport, a
Speaker 1: world World World World pass What then does that mean?
Speaker 1: The world passport is so you know, he has a
Speaker 1: website with my man Ferrari Shepherd shout out to my man.
Speaker 1: I got a website. I don't got a worldwide. They
Speaker 1: got a website called a country called Earth. And the
Speaker 1: whole concept behind it is, you know, I'm a citizen
Speaker 1: of the world. Like these borders. Do you know what
Speaker 1: we all this is a room for the immigrants. Room.
Speaker 1: We've done good for some immigrants. These borders are set
Speaker 1: up by colonists. These borders set up by warring European
Speaker 1: factions that are that are interested in in enabling white
Speaker 1: supremacy and keeping it going. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like keeping people was murdered, they're raped and tortured for
Speaker 1: them to create these lines and these divisions between people.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, no human being is illegal. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you get drunk and you drive and
Speaker 1: you killing motherfuck, are you in illegal driving? No, you're not.
Speaker 1: So no human being is illegal. That's that. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a misnomer. No human being is an alien. No
Speaker 1: human being is illegal, and that makes a noise for
Speaker 1: the people trying to cross the borders. Quality were not
Speaker 1: damnit shut or it is bombed. And so y'all seen
Speaker 1: ban fera shepherd. They have this concept of just global
Speaker 1: global citizens, citizensry and no human being is illegal and
Speaker 1: country called Earth. We are all citizens in the world.
Speaker 1: So he can he still like go to like um countries.
Speaker 1: That's cool with Yeah, the World Passport is recognized as
Speaker 1: certain countries. But we still don't know how did he
Speaker 1: get that word. You could from what somebody to get
Speaker 1: that fingerprintsingerprints world. From what I understand, the World Passport,
Speaker 1: you could get it if you do do the research
Speaker 1: and you just anybody could get it. But it's not
Speaker 1: recognized everywhere, and it's not recognized in every situation they
Speaker 1: might recognize it. I think the situation with South Africa
Speaker 1: is they recognized it sometimes and they don't record. They
Speaker 1: pick and choose. So I think the situation was he
Speaker 1: was trying to travel in this particular time they didn't
Speaker 1: recognize the World passport. So he has a little legal issue.
Speaker 1: He got solved. But you know, he's been in South
Speaker 1: Africa and Tunisia and Morocco and he's just been a
Speaker 1: citizen of the world. And then how did your has
Speaker 1: literally meet? Because the Black Star thing was yeah, so
Speaker 1: big and we only got one album. Correct, shoutut to
Speaker 1: my man Rubik's. When I was a young we lad
Speaker 1: back in the salad days of my career, Okay, hold
Speaker 1: on lad in salad. Never heard this term. That's just Irish.
Speaker 1: That's Irish. I'm a we lad salad days. If I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of the Coen Brothers films. He watched Raised
Speaker 1: in Arizona, Nicholas Cage. He talks about him in Holly Hunter,
Speaker 1: I think his name and the actress and he's talking
Speaker 1: about the early days of their relationships, and he said,
Speaker 1: that's that's the salad days, the days before the appetizer
Speaker 1: and the meal on entree the salad days. So in
Speaker 1: my salad days, you know what I'm saying. I used
Speaker 1: to hang out and Watchington Square Park. Um. I used
Speaker 1: to hang out with incredible mcs like Supernatural. That's where
Speaker 1: half Bake came from. Dave Dave Chappelle was in the park.
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle was in the park around this time, watching
Speaker 1: The Square Park eight off. The Assassin was in the
Speaker 1: Hip Pop War. Jean Gray was in the park. Most
Speaker 1: Deaf was in the park. But Most Deaf was also
Speaker 1: a TV star. He had a show with with Nel Carter.
Speaker 1: I forget the name of the show, but it was
Speaker 1: he was nel Carter him and had a show right
Speaker 1: then he had a show with Malcolm Jamal Warner had
Speaker 1: a TV show. When he left the Cosby Show to
Speaker 1: Teacher Harlem, he had a class the Seventh Creators. Most
Speaker 1: Death was one of the Seventh Creators. Yeah. Then in
Speaker 1: the Cosby Mysteries, the first Drake and this is in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Cosby. I was in Brooke Ya, Ni's got mad ship.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise in Brooklyn. Being rich, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was what's the rhymes? Big and jay Z all went
Speaker 1: to a school together, Brooklyn. Hold on, hold on, hold
Speaker 1: on now, alright, alright, let me qualify that. Let me
Speaker 1: qualify that the seven eight team got the best in
Speaker 1: seven eight. Yeah, seven, he said, seven eighteen. That was
Speaker 1: too smart for me. I had to think the same day,
Speaker 1: seven seven one. You gotta shop got star faces, bes
Speaker 1: and uns. Well, we've got jay Z's and nas and
Speaker 1: big different seven eight unities like black and brown right here,
Speaker 1: right here, right here, right here. But yeah, most Deaf
Speaker 1: was doing this thing on the acting. He had a
Speaker 1: Dion Santa's American Express commercial. I knew he was broke.
Speaker 1: It was an American expression. We was broke. We was
Speaker 1: we being the park. We would hop the train. I
Speaker 1: used to live a Flatbush, hop the train and go
Speaker 1: to the Washington Washington Square Park. The freestyle. Most Deaf
Speaker 1: was the only niggable money. He would take everybody to
Speaker 1: McDonald's on West Fourth. I got that McDonald's. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you continue from the basketball story. When I was fifteen
Speaker 1: years old. All right, I'm just real story right now.
Speaker 1: At my at the house I rented, I'm shooting a video.
Speaker 1: My man nico Is and they're shooting a video. Let's
Speaker 1: make a noise. Listen. Most people rent a hotel. He's experienced.
Speaker 1: We rented yeah house. It is cheaper than the hotel.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm frugal. We don't know that word. Can
Speaker 1: you explain frugush It's cheap. It's a fancy word for
Speaker 1: cheap pocket. I am now using that word is at
Speaker 1: this house right now. It's still potholes in my law right.
Speaker 1: Let's make all my New York nick is gon Remember this.
Speaker 1: I used to shop at Renaissance. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: cool now, but it used to be on on Houston
Speaker 1: and Broadway, and they used to have the Doc Martin
Speaker 1: boots and the Jabo jeans I used for Jabow jeans.
Speaker 1: I read it Deposta news. This is what day I
Speaker 1: saw the hot I don't know if you're gonna say
Speaker 1: this is a joint? Is it's blood the hottest ship?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me make sure it's live. How about
Speaker 1: the smoking. I smoke to Blood with too short. I
Speaker 1: got Careless drunk, and now I got Tyler quietly smoking.
Speaker 1: Lists got news that is not news, I know, but
Speaker 1: you know why Toddler. Let me just This is one
Speaker 1: of the main reasons why I wanted you on the
Speaker 1: podcast is because you do so much great in the
Speaker 1: community that sometimes, like you know, our preachers are are
Speaker 1: our bartenders. When I say boy bartenders, I mean like,
Speaker 1: you know, to pull up guys in the hood in
Speaker 1: New York. Sometimes they seem holy of and down and
Speaker 1: sometimes when you just need to show them that they're human.
Speaker 1: And when you show them that they're human, it's more
Speaker 1: people that can say, you know what, I'm a following. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow his league because he's also human. Like
Speaker 1: it's crazy because I'm you know, I've been in this
Speaker 1: business for a long time. I've known for a certain
Speaker 1: type of record, but you know, ever since I've been
Speaker 1: a business, know what I'm saying, Like you remember the
Speaker 1: time he's in Larios. Yes, somebody came up to you
Speaker 1: and ask you for you're using Larry like Gloria and
Speaker 1: I we're drinking together, Like I'm like, Wow, the world
Speaker 1: need to know tyl Live can have fun, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because he makes so serious rackings. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a political guy. It's great. That part is awesome.
Speaker 1: That's what I represent. The Charis was my favorite rappers,
Speaker 1: so you understand that I respect all that, but I'm
Speaker 1: seeing him have a great time. So because a person
Speaker 1: comes up to him and says, to live, I want
Speaker 1: to do a joint with you, so I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he's like, your nory, I want to
Speaker 1: do a drink, I said. Tylerve Is, my new manager,
Speaker 1: looked at me and was like fucked up. But he
Speaker 1: went along with it, and you went right along. Let's
Speaker 1: make some noise for going along with my found managing Norri. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't want to do a song with the dude,
Speaker 1: so I seen him right there, so I live. But
Speaker 1: people need to I think that that's that's one of
Speaker 1: the greatest things is that when you know you like
Speaker 1: like when people say, I don't know, this is fucked up,
Speaker 1: But when people say Martin was fucking bit just on
Speaker 1: the side, it's like everybody like, damn, that's funked up.
Speaker 1: But it's like, nah, he's like human, like he was
Speaker 1: fucking he was fighting every day for human rights. If
Speaker 1: he wanted to get a butt a nut on the side,
Speaker 1: that they gonna laugh, man, make some noise for Martin.
Speaker 1: He man Mason noise for Martin on the side. Come on, Martin.
Speaker 1: Unnamed rapper told me this, and I'm not gonna blow
Speaker 1: up his spot. This unnamed rapper told me this on
Speaker 1: his first tour. He said, hey, man, all the prophets
Speaker 1: that host because you know why, it shows that you're human.
Speaker 1: The thing about preachers, the thing about the church, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work no more is because you see these people
Speaker 1: and they got the gay, the shoes on, and they
Speaker 1: got the they look so good and and they Charlottean
Speaker 1: stuff and they show you no mistakes. So they show
Speaker 1: you no mistakes, and why would somebody follow you, because
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, I never gonna be like you. I
Speaker 1: have flaws. You understand what I'm saying. Like, so that's
Speaker 1: why the when you when when you learn the story
Speaker 1: about his flaws, when you learn about Malcolm flaws, when
Speaker 1: you learn about Jesus flaws. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When you when you read the books that are outside
Speaker 1: of the Bible, outside of the King James version of
Speaker 1: the Bible. When Jesus went to travel and you know,
Speaker 1: to India, Oh yeah, I'm saying he gained knowledge from
Speaker 1: all over the world. Supposedly. You know, I'm saying like
Speaker 1: it had and had flaws. It was, it wasn't man,
Speaker 1: but that you know that, that's what That's what makes
Speaker 1: people able to relate. But Black stars such a legendary.
Speaker 1: But before you go on to black because I was
Speaker 1: are talking about Postinus Passengers. I went into the Renaissance,
Speaker 1: I said, past my favorite day, I saw my favorite ship.
Speaker 1: I rapped. Um, what do I do? He said, go
Speaker 1: to Rush Artists Management around the corner on Elizabeth Street, right,
Speaker 1: So I went around that. I went around the corner.
Speaker 1: I go on the lobby. Tragedies there, Yes he was.
Speaker 1: But first Search first, because you know, Search walked and
Speaker 1: I met Search. I just I'm fifteen years old. I'm
Speaker 1: at Search. This is when gas Face was. It was
Speaker 1: like Tragedy walks in. I got a picture in my
Speaker 1: house right now. Tragedy had the wild dreads on the
Speaker 1: top of the fade on the side, he had the
Speaker 1: little Malcolm ex spectacles, and he had like a raincoat on.
Speaker 1: And this is Maaket. Tragedy sat there and talked to
Speaker 1: me for two hours. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: he was the first. This is a real story that
Speaker 1: you're hearing on drink Champs. Tragedy was the first rapper
Speaker 1: that showed me love. Tragedy was the first famous. He
Speaker 1: was the first first, that's right. But you don't know
Speaker 1: me from from He just started giving me advice on
Speaker 1: the industry for me and all that. We sat with
Speaker 1: Elizabeth in Houston for two hours watching the people walk by.
Speaker 1: I don't even know why he had the time. Not
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know who the next person is. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just energy, you know what I'm saying, Just a look
Speaker 1: at that? Look at that? So you're hot tag? Yeah
Speaker 1: no, no no, let's get back first the last two yet
Speaker 1: black Star because you know why you know, um uh
Speaker 1: black Star such a legendary thing that you guys did, like, um,
Speaker 1: this is the first time in history we were presented
Speaker 1: a group first and then you guys did solo ship
Speaker 1: and y'all just never got back. Yeah it's not accurate, Yes,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. It is. You know, black Star me
Speaker 1: and most Death with solo artists, and we we had
Speaker 1: styles that complimented to each each other. We're fans of
Speaker 1: each other. Um, we talked casually about doing a group.
Speaker 1: Were both signed to Ruckus. Jared and Brian. You know,
Speaker 1: they sort of vision and they was like, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: do a black Star. At the same time, most Death
Speaker 1: was like, let's do this black star situation rockt sort
Speaker 1: at the same time. So it converged, and he was
Speaker 1: working on a TV show. He was working in the
Speaker 1: movie I Forget Which movies forever. He was walking on
Speaker 1: the movie after time he was saying, this is when
Speaker 1: I knew I can't act for Ship. Listen, let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something. This is when I knew I
Speaker 1: can't act for Ship. I've seen that nigger play a
Speaker 1: doctor and I believed him. And then I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you when I knew most was done when I seen
Speaker 1: him when I watched Monster's Ball, Master's Ball and this
Speaker 1: is my nigga and I'm spending every day with and
Speaker 1: I watched for thirty minutes and I said, that's most
Speaker 1: st Yeah, That's how I knew I can't. What do
Speaker 1: you think that the TV played Bury in the in
Speaker 1: the Cadillac Records movie, You ever saying what Beyonce? And
Speaker 1: he was wearing his hair and talking and acting like
Speaker 1: a dressing like Chuck Berry around us, But he didn't
Speaker 1: tell us that he was doing a movie, so I
Speaker 1: thought he didn't. He was just losing his mind. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like he was a cactus trading his hair.
Speaker 1: He had the outfits, he was talking and that. When
Speaker 1: I saw the movie, I said, Okay, did he go
Speaker 1: to acting school? No, he just a dude from bed
Speaker 1: Star who got who got talent? You know, shout out
Speaker 1: to Umi and Abbi. They saw enough to make sure
Speaker 1: that he had the opportunities and present him with the opportunities.
Speaker 1: So so, but when you guys did the Black Star album,
Speaker 1: did you did you? Did you? Did you understand how
Speaker 1: big like the culture was gonna gravitate towards that or
Speaker 1: I think we just a moment had a lot to
Speaker 1: do with Vinyl. Brokers was putting out Vinyl and the
Speaker 1: dj the DJs were craving Vinyl. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: the people, okay, people, Vinyl is the record. It's a
Speaker 1: record you put it on. It's fools around, It's not
Speaker 1: a stream, you know. Uh, real DJs used to cut
Speaker 1: it back, bring it back. Your mom's got it in
Speaker 1: your house. Your mom's got it in your house somewhere.
Speaker 1: Your mother has any I'm sorry, alright, alright, Rakers was
Speaker 1: putting out vinyl for people, for hip hop fans that
Speaker 1: was starved for vinyl, and that's part of the Rooker's
Speaker 1: business plan. That's how they blew up because a lot
Speaker 1: of the DJs, we're pushing back against the move away
Speaker 1: for vinyl. You had big companies like Bad Boy that
Speaker 1: was putting out great quality pop mainstream hip hop, but
Speaker 1: they wasn't serving the DJs with the vinyl. They was
Speaker 1: trying to move away from it. You go to Tower
Speaker 1: Records or whatever. Back in days you couldn't buy vinyl.
Speaker 1: Rockets would put out BAM's Deck, Sermenteli Company Flow, most
Speaker 1: deaf probably vinyl. You know what I'm saying that people
Speaker 1: was the DJs would appreciate that Rukers was focused on
Speaker 1: the DJ and they focused on underground hip hop and
Speaker 1: focus on a certain sounds. So when they put out
Speaker 1: The Black Star. I remember the Stress magazine. My man
Speaker 1: Clive down and you got to cover Stress. But it
Speaker 1: was a graffiti writers that had that magazine and Broucs
Speaker 1: did a collaboration with Stressed with Stress when they did
Speaker 1: the vinyl on the cover. The vinyl for Definition was
Speaker 1: on the cover of Stress attached to the magazine they
Speaker 1: sent a copy to Funk Master to Flex. He loved it.
Speaker 1: As a DJ. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: started my career working for Jessica rosen rose Ball, Yeah Funk.
Speaker 1: I used to live in Flappers down the street. When
Speaker 1: when CNN first Drop, When Nori with component Ariga first Drop,
Speaker 1: I was working for Dress, Jessica rosenback John Foorte. John
Speaker 1: is my best friend. At the time, Jessica was managing
Speaker 1: John Forte. I was fourteen fifteen. Jessica Rosenbaum is a
Speaker 1: party promoter in New York. She used to manage Master Flex.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you, let me break it down.
Speaker 1: She managed Master Flex before there was a Hunt on
Speaker 1: the seven, there was a Hot Night said, but before
Speaker 1: Hot Night was a hip hop station, it was a
Speaker 1: freestyle station. They used to play STEVB records like you
Speaker 1: Gotta the Leader. Something that side I mean I used
Speaker 1: to do that club was that, let's keep it going
Speaker 1: with base, home Base. I went to that home base,
Speaker 1: the boom spot, the tunnel, this pre tunnel. When Jessica
Speaker 1: got the tunnel, that was a cool Peter Gash. She
Speaker 1: started worker Peter Gation. We're doing Limelight Tunnel I was
Speaker 1: to fly it. You gotta tell him, We gotta tell
Speaker 1: him with Lime Night because this is church. It was
Speaker 1: a church, and the church was literally as a church
Speaker 1: church and it closed down. They have a documentary. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a movie called Party Monster and
Speaker 1: the Starting Start that's about this whole situation. I definitely
Speaker 1: went to home Base. I didn't go there. Home base
Speaker 1: was home base was. The home base was with Jessica's
Speaker 1: hip hop ship. That's a house of paying there and
Speaker 1: the ghetto girls. All right, So I used to know
Speaker 1: so when you when you when you when you went
Speaker 1: to that club, if you went to like like say
Speaker 1: where else, Dominoes would have a record ghetto jam out.
Speaker 1: I would post up the posters for Dominoes coming to town.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying like that. I worked for Jessica like enough,
Speaker 1: it was Flip Squad. It was funk Matter, flex Enough,
Speaker 1: mad Way recipes by saying um d J Buddhaican did
Speaker 1: the reggae you know what I'm saying, and and Bismarck
Speaker 1: he was down for a second when he first started
Speaker 1: his DJ ship. He was down with Flip Squad. I
Speaker 1: used to hand out the flyers she managed John Forte
Speaker 1: Matter Flex. First record was with Non Double Lemons Man
Speaker 1: from the Bronx or Nervous. The B side was a
Speaker 1: record called the Boom Spot. Yeah, six Million Ways to Die,
Speaker 1: the B side Nervous. The B side is John Forte.
Speaker 1: Hold on for all these new guys listening, we all
Speaker 1: get in getting real hip hope. So if you listen,
Speaker 1: what was that I'm doing record? He just said, Nervous.
Speaker 1: I used to put out the back that was John
Speaker 1: black More down. Oh man, this is real hip hop
Speaker 1: right now, get yours to get your googles continue. So
Speaker 1: that that's my start in the business was with John Forte,
Speaker 1: Master Flex and Jessica Rosi down because she was working
Speaker 1: with Puff at the time. He was her partner at
Speaker 1: the time. You know when when Flex you standard parties
Speaker 1: at the Palladium. People up on Friday nights the Palladium.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I've seen I've seen ice Que perform
Speaker 1: at the Palladium with a Flex and King's Son came
Speaker 1: out wicked and King Sun came out said, yo Que,
Speaker 1: that's my soul that you stole. Yeah. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: was there for I seen Tretch challenged Daylight Soul on
Speaker 1: stage because he was mad because they had to record
Speaker 1: when they said so stick to your nutty button, Natures
Speaker 1: in your pain and when they was raising both on
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy, They're like classic moment. Yeah. I was at
Speaker 1: the Palladium for all those funk Master Flex parties. Flex.
Speaker 1: I was at some of them parties. I was usually
Speaker 1: kicked out and I told you was doing yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So how about you in high tech right right? So
Speaker 1: this is nice, like I'm in high school three. This
Speaker 1: is when Jessic could do in this party. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I went to n y U. My wife, everybody piece
Speaker 1: you god damage, You're coming out here to make sure
Speaker 1: everybody's acting all right. Party. I went to n y
Speaker 1: U and then I got and then I left, and
Speaker 1: then I started working in the cub books. I was
Speaker 1: doing these uh book show shows. These bookstore shows were
Speaker 1: like Dead Prayers and Lord Jama and around nine went
Speaker 1: to l A. I was friends with Mike and nine
Speaker 1: for Freestyle Fellowship. He had moved to New York. He
Speaker 1: was signed to Keytar Mask Keytar Entertainment. He moved to
Speaker 1: New York. Keat I was working on D'Angelo and Erica
Speaker 1: about doing Micah at the time hanging out with them,
Speaker 1: and then I went to l A Tounk with him.
Speaker 1: I caught a hitchhike to the day hold on time.
Speaker 1: You're the first black man I ever heard you the
Speaker 1: word hit. Just make no exact but look I was back.
Speaker 1: I took a greahound bus from New York to l A.
Speaker 1: But you gotta got that from white people. You ain't
Speaker 1: just you ain't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just getting him.
Speaker 1: He wasn't in Brooklyn and Flatbush and Nigga said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you got that from your white friend? Did Los Angeles
Speaker 1: to the bay Mystic Journeyman? Shout out to Mystic Journeyman
Speaker 1: from Bay Area. I met them at a club and
Speaker 1: at the Good Life Cafe in Los Angeles, and they
Speaker 1: told me come to the Bay Area. You good I
Speaker 1: hated paper collar. Now it's way before that, but in
Speaker 1: my mind when you said that, I just popped the collar.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That was hella. Okay, okay, I might have
Speaker 1: to ask you to get some more drink. You got.
Speaker 1: You gotta loosen up. And you was shooting a video today.
Speaker 1: Let's pick up your video you was doing. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Nicole and chatz uh Van Queen shout video for
Speaker 1: a song called good Girls Today, Good Girls O, good Girls.
Speaker 1: I meet good girls in the right places. My new
Speaker 1: albums called Toward the Force. He used to be called
Speaker 1: He's very smart Force toward the Force. I got j
Speaker 1: like trying to call on it. I gotta walk a
Speaker 1: flock on it. I got nor on its almost he's
Speaker 1: putting pressure on. Let's make some noise for He's just
Speaker 1: drink chat to me on the drink chat. Well, Tyler
Speaker 1: is my mama bum boy man? Like you know? Um.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I know I said it earlier,
Speaker 1: but I want to just reiterate it is. I just
Speaker 1: want to show the people how cool you are. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a lot of people think you're
Speaker 1: so serious. Why because you know why? You do speak
Speaker 1: up for us? And you know. I remember me asking
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons one night. I said, your Russell, UM, I
Speaker 1: want you to run for president and he said, I
Speaker 1: smoked dope before, and Russell everybody smoked weed before, said no, Norria,
Speaker 1: I smoked heroine. I've seen the show. I'm not arrested you,
Speaker 1: but I want you to run for New York City mayor.
Speaker 1: Are you mad at me for throwing that out there. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you know what. Local politics is
Speaker 1: better than presidential politics. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so you could do you're gonna do the New York City. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not, because you could do right here, Chance Radio
Speaker 1: Tiland running for Brooklyn City Councilman's not like like the
Speaker 1: city councilman, the assemblyman to school board public service announcement.
Speaker 1: You gotta vote for these people if you have chids
Speaker 1: and they go to school in your neighborhoods. That's part
Speaker 1: that people miss. That's the part that people miss. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not I'm slacking on
Speaker 1: it because I don't even be in New York enough
Speaker 1: to do it, you know I'm saying, But I'm just
Speaker 1: a public service for me to just um one Senate
Speaker 1: in his and he's holly there. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, honestly, I know I'm playing around
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think like people like jay
Speaker 1: Z Russell Simmons, I live quality people who know politics
Speaker 1: like me. I learned my politics on Bill Moore. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, if it's on Bill Moore.
Speaker 1: I know what's going on. Yeah, but that's learn his politics.
Speaker 1: But it's like this, I used to be the type
Speaker 1: of nig but you know politics this if this footage
Speaker 1: of me talking about why you shouldn't vote. I'm not
Speaker 1: somebody who believes that you should just vote for the
Speaker 1: sake of voting. People be like people died for the
Speaker 1: sake of voting. Voting in America is a broken system.
Speaker 1: But I read I read Man in Merrible book about
Speaker 1: Malcolm X and Malcolm X his ship was the ballot
Speaker 1: of Man and Marrible. He's a scholar. He wrote a
Speaker 1: book called The Reinvention Life and Reinvention. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a book about Malcolm xIC after Malcolm X autobiography. It's
Speaker 1: a good book. I sell it on my website Quality
Speaker 1: club dot com club. We don't sell any books in
Speaker 1: I sell hoodies and T shirts and fucking hats. That
Speaker 1: the audio book with that, No, I'm working on that,
Speaker 1: the coming coming. But I got so heat he changed
Speaker 1: my mind when I read this book because Man and
Speaker 1: Man and Marrable wrote about how Malcolm X got with
Speaker 1: Adam Clayton Powell in the sixties. Adam Clayton Powell's famous
Speaker 1: senator from Harlem. They formed voting black Adam Clayton, Adam,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. That's what I'm talking about. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying got awkward. I'm sorry, but that's that's real ship.
Speaker 1: So Adam Clayton got with Malcolm X and they formed
Speaker 1: voting blocks. So you see the Irish people in New
Speaker 1: York and the Jewish people, they vote as a as
Speaker 1: a community. They get they get the ship if they
Speaker 1: if they want. The Cubans in Miami, they went to
Speaker 1: trash cleaned up, they want to stop sign whatever they want,
Speaker 1: they get because they vote as voting blocks. As African
Speaker 1: American people, we don't do that. Adam clay In Powell
Speaker 1: and Malcolm X figured out how to do that. That's
Speaker 1: what convinced me that the vote is worth something, your
Speaker 1: vote on mina and as an individually. Because Electoral College
Speaker 1: ensued that all the white people and all the rich landowners,
Speaker 1: they all the people don't land and rich people, the
Speaker 1: Electoral College make sure that they vote count more than
Speaker 1: the vote in California count more than the vote in
Speaker 1: New York because California is a bigger place and more
Speaker 1: rich people own land there you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but if we get together and vote as a block,
Speaker 1: like the Cuban people in Miami or the Jewish Jewish
Speaker 1: people do in New York, then we can affect change.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm down with. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you know right now. Yes, the hip hop community
Speaker 1: get together and vote for you. You're gonna take the job. Son.
Speaker 1: We got people, We got Rass Baraka, he was on
Speaker 1: the Lauren Hill album that I went to Cuba, Ross
Speaker 1: barrock and I met with Ross Barrocker and he's he's
Speaker 1: done mayor. He's the mayor of Newark, New Jersey right now.
Speaker 1: He was not there. Tupaca is alive when I went there,
Speaker 1: um uh Asada is there and shout out to Nihanda
Speaker 1: abby o do she's there. We went to Cuba. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: you've been going to Cuba for a long time back
Speaker 1: I went once. You don't get to that that helped
Speaker 1: us you're in hip hop into listen, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but look at that. You helped the Cubans go back
Speaker 1: to Cuba. Come on, make now you know, Yeah, for
Speaker 1: you We're gonna make it. We're gonna force you, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna start what is it a petition?
Speaker 1: A petition. We're gonna hit everybody on Twitter every day.
Speaker 1: We need a hip hop man, that's the hip hop.
Speaker 1: But we got them. We got Jersey and talking about
Speaker 1: Corey Booker, He's hip book. Rasp Barrock to do what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He ran against Corey Booker Back of
Speaker 1: the Day. He lost Crey Book of more mainstream Corey Booker.
Speaker 1: Corey Book is good. He like Top s good, Top
Speaker 1: forty and Homeboy is underground. That's exactly right, rasp ground.
Speaker 1: Corey Books book is a set of guys. He don't sell.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make it too far. Rasp Rock is a
Speaker 1: bare new it. I'm going to rasp Berrocker having a meeting,
Speaker 1: uh and two weeks with Black Lives Matter on me,
Speaker 1: rap City and bust Ron's going. He shout to rasp Rock,
Speaker 1: Rasper Rocks, Let's make a noise, Rasper Rock. Laur with
Speaker 1: new album no the Laura Miss Education, Laura Hill. When
Speaker 1: she has the intervals where they got the principal talking
Speaker 1: to the kids, that's Rasper. He run a school. He
Speaker 1: has a principle. He has a school official like a
Speaker 1: referee with a whistle wrong. Welcome to play, a new
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Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d jes. Now,
Speaker 1: what did the name todder live quality? Because shout to
Speaker 1: my parents, you know that's yours, my boy, Tyl Quality
Speaker 1: Green is my born name. So how bad is it
Speaker 1: you going through customs after not? It was pretty bad,
Speaker 1: you know. And my DJ's name is Hussein. I'll back.
Speaker 1: My best friend was was was was Mussa Abdella. No,
Speaker 1: but na Mussolini chose some of the Muslim names. No, no,
Speaker 1: he was born and he was not. Mussolini is born
Speaker 1: his Muslim. This is so. I used to travel with
Speaker 1: a person named Mussa Abdella and Ali Sammy. It wasn't
Speaker 1: great for me going to let's say that. I had
Speaker 1: to learn to leave them. But I had to be
Speaker 1: like yo, you know, yeah, you wait for your man
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, no, that's not working. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but that's not eleven, that's not I got stopped everywhere,
Speaker 1: fucking they don't know what you look a ram, I'm
Speaker 1: cub I'm sorry, started wrapping American flags around their head
Speaker 1: like through that's that that this is crazy. So did
Speaker 1: you have problems going through customs or no? It was
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I got yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: got the random search. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: but I had been used to it by that time.
Speaker 1: I traveled the world a bunch of times. He was saying,
Speaker 1: like that, it's different every country we got. I got
Speaker 1: stopped by to see everybody. I got to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Not maybe not it was FBI was FPI, WHOA WHOA
Speaker 1: hold on, let's get into this story. Was listen ahead,
Speaker 1: let's look. I pulled up to the airport. They was like,
Speaker 1: they pulled me to the side, put me in the
Speaker 1: back room. They said, on this night, where was you?
Speaker 1: I was in curR Room studios, working on my own quality.
Speaker 1: I was listening to Stokely Car Michael speech. Stokely Car
Speaker 1: Black panther brother right, black power. He was the one
Speaker 1: who in the ablackwer They knew this. They started talking
Speaker 1: to me about this. The reason they knew this is
Speaker 1: because when I booked my flight. I booked my flight
Speaker 1: with Jet Blue while I was listening to this speci
Speaker 1: Are you supposed to make are we supposed to make noise?
Speaker 1: With Jeff Blue? Definitely give up. Continue. They pulled me.
Speaker 1: They showed me a list of names and all the
Speaker 1: names was blacked out except for my wife d j
Speaker 1: Q and my manager at the time, Corey Smith. Corey Smith,
Speaker 1: he managed Vincent states that's right. At one point, continue
Speaker 1: right on point. They said, do you know these people
Speaker 1: had my manager and my wife's name that's said everybody
Speaker 1: else and black that. I said, I know them. I said,
Speaker 1: that's my manner, that's my wife. I said, why are
Speaker 1: you got from people? They said, those are the people
Speaker 1: you travel with the most. What I'm saying, I said,
Speaker 1: why do you stop me? They pulled me that. They
Speaker 1: pulled me. They said they was question asked me on
Speaker 1: these questions. They said, you was listening to a speech
Speaker 1: that seem violent and anti government. God wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 1: But when he was listening to the speech out again
Speaker 1: in the studio and current room studio, when he was
Speaker 1: justin before just blades, when he was justin he was
Speaker 1: just gra phillies for me. But that's right, when he
Speaker 1: was an intern, just blazes up at night, late at
Speaker 1: night in the studio where his mom. I love ground,
Speaker 1: I love his grind. Yeah, that's where. That's where I
Speaker 1: was at and when I got to the airport. This
Speaker 1: was when jet Blue was the first cramemb when jet
Speaker 1: Blue was first cracking that. I'm sorry, I don't with
Speaker 1: jet Blue. When United, nigga, let's make some noise for United.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get spontsor enjoys me that kind of
Speaker 1: days when they still had the t w A terminal
Speaker 1: back in wa we just go. That's before Miles. Nobody
Speaker 1: had Miles back there. But you can drink in the
Speaker 1: teken floor. It's like, yeah, this is paper, my man,
Speaker 1: he just came home. We just came He smokes clear paper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is that official like this vegan like it? Vegan smoke?
Speaker 1: Is that like vegan? We have vegan smoke here. Let's
Speaker 1: make some noise for vegan smoke. We don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. I got a vegan. Jokes, I got a vegan.
Speaker 1: How do you know somebody vegan? Don't worry, they fucking
Speaker 1: tell you he cans. Get the joke. Yeah, we didn't,
Speaker 1: all right, Tyler, I hate to switch the subject. I
Speaker 1: hate to ask you this, but you know what happened.
Speaker 1: We had the god body care arrests on this show.
Speaker 1: That's my that's that's my mentor, that's my mentor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know why he didn't have a chance to
Speaker 1: defend himself. I know exactly. Me Let me what happened.
Speaker 1: I got an opinion of this. Let me let me
Speaker 1: go that I got my because because this is how
Speaker 1: here you take it. So this this is the thing, right,
Speaker 1: Caress is my mentor. He from Queens. That's an extra means,
Speaker 1: that means extra more and said to him on the podcast,
Speaker 1: I always said that at So what happened was I
Speaker 1: asked him about this question and Caroress is long winded.
Speaker 1: What I mean by long winded is he can't give Caress.
Speaker 1: He'll give you what I mean, He'll give you a
Speaker 1: three minute answer. Right. What I wanted from Careres was
Speaker 1: YO when I asked this question, and so when he
Speaker 1: didn't answer like that, I know the internet, like you know,
Speaker 1: you know the internet. So this is the reason why,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna they're gonna shorten it no matter how
Speaker 1: which way I asked you this, They're gonna shorten it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I realized that
Speaker 1: Chris was going, you know, a little too far, I
Speaker 1: kind of let him answer, but I changed the subject.
Speaker 1: In the Internet, it's like that's that is not Caress
Speaker 1: for I'm sure he was gonna get to the point
Speaker 1: to say that that this part and this part is wrong.
Speaker 1: But when he kept you know, prolong, and you know,
Speaker 1: I I understand it. It's about like that, like you
Speaker 1: already see how we cut each other off. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because we already know we're cutting it
Speaker 1: up for one minute to thirty minutes and fifteen second clips.
Speaker 1: We got it already designed in our head, right, all right?
Speaker 1: So I asked Caress this question. I said, what should
Speaker 1: we do with African band bother and the situation? Right?
Speaker 1: And Chris, you know, I don't want to say he
Speaker 1: defended them. He defended their relationship, which is totally but
Speaker 1: the Internet wanted him to say, boom, this is wrong.
Speaker 1: He's still my man. But if it's you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And so I have to ask you pretty
Speaker 1: much the same. Well, here's the thing. The language of
Speaker 1: political correctness evolves over time, and if you're not really
Speaker 1: engaged in paying attention like every second to the Internet
Speaker 1: and to the social media and what people are saying
Speaker 1: an academic language and how people are dealing with everything,
Speaker 1: for racism, the sexism, the child abuse, to everything. You
Speaker 1: may just talk and speak your mind, but because people
Speaker 1: receive a lot more information, they may not understand where
Speaker 1: you're coming from, Like you want me speak a certain
Speaker 1: language because we're from New York. You want me speak
Speaker 1: a certain language because we hip hop, or because we minority,
Speaker 1: or because you know what I'm saying. Care Arrest is
Speaker 1: an older gentleman and he's a teacher. He's a teacher,
Speaker 1: but he comes from a different generation. He comes from
Speaker 1: an older generation with a language and the paradigm and
Speaker 1: everything that they informed by is different than now. So
Speaker 1: the way that the language that he's speaking on current
Speaker 1: topics is different is why you hear older people speaking
Speaker 1: and you may not relate to them. You'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's changed since then. So not only are you dealing
Speaker 1: with somebody who's older and somebody who's not engaged with
Speaker 1: the current language. But I don't think he understood the facts.
Speaker 1: Neither and you, but you also do None of us
Speaker 1: knew the fact. None of us also listen, listen, but
Speaker 1: now we know the ACU Caress is from a generation
Speaker 1: that's from before the internet. He had still he's from
Speaker 1: before the end. People don't say that his phone. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I was embarrassed. I wanted. I told
Speaker 1: him I was gonna buy. You been embarrassed on everybody's phone.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I've been disappointed. You don't cracks
Speaker 1: in school? Is just your up to date Caress. Caress
Speaker 1: still had a two way. I'm just playing Caress. He
Speaker 1: knows like a joke on him, but ahead, but you
Speaker 1: know what it is. Here's the thing, Caress, It's clear
Speaker 1: to me, I'm gonna be It's clear to me as
Speaker 1: as as a fan of Caress, as someone who knows
Speaker 1: him personally, that he doesn't condone any of the accusations.
Speaker 1: Of course he of course he doesn't. No, not even
Speaker 1: even with Caress making a record like thirteen and Good,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people have given him flak, A
Speaker 1: lot of flak has come back, has haunted him for
Speaker 1: this record that he did years ago, that I wrote,
Speaker 1: I read he read it. He wrote a whole because
Speaker 1: of his drink. Champs state that I read what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and he said, he said a record that I did
Speaker 1: as a joke. We used to joke about rape and
Speaker 1: child abused. Back in the day. We used to use
Speaker 1: the word faggot with no remorse and no. We come
Speaker 1: from if you older, we come from a generation where
Speaker 1: that wasn't taboo, That wasn't We wasn't enlightened, We wasn't
Speaker 1: evolved evolved enough to understand what was wrong with those things,
Speaker 1: and we we engaged in those sticks. When I was
Speaker 1: growing up, I used the word faggot. I called niggas
Speaker 1: pucks right now, right now, like even the term man up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I grew up saying man up. I've told my
Speaker 1: son man up. But as a forty year old man,
Speaker 1: I made a decision to stop using that term because
Speaker 1: I realized it's sexist. I realized that that and negates
Speaker 1: and the racist women when I say man up. But
Speaker 1: I'm still evolving as a man. I'm still evolving as
Speaker 1: a man. And as we grow and we evolved, we
Speaker 1: do things as we're younger. What I'm saying in the
Speaker 1: in the seventies, I watched TV shows and clips from
Speaker 1: the seventies and the eighties and early eighties where people
Speaker 1: were getting away with ship that you put it on
Speaker 1: the internet. Now, now you know what I watched the
Speaker 1: other day that was sucking me up? Were Avenge of
Speaker 1: the Nerds. You ever three? He had four? Actually he
Speaker 1: had be with the other dude. So he went in
Speaker 1: there and he he dressed as the other dude and
Speaker 1: he basically raped the chick, right, and that ship was funny.
Speaker 1: But if he came out now you if it came
Speaker 1: out now that because we looked at the old the
Speaker 1: rat pack they was, it was that wanted and that's
Speaker 1: like the good time the fellas. We gotta make a
Speaker 1: point because it's gonna look crazy. Got let's get to
Speaker 1: the point for trying to make because make the point
Speaker 1: the Zulu Nation and Harris one and all these people
Speaker 1: who come from a different terror the way that they
Speaker 1: had to go. We're gonna make a point because listen,
Speaker 1: because listen, we went we were to like a dumb area.
Speaker 1: We did. He's the smartest nick in here. We gotta
Speaker 1: make him not make sense to this. Come on with
Speaker 1: the kid. Yeah, I bet you Jain is Jamaican. They
Speaker 1: got seventeen jobs, two languages. Anybody in London, anybody speak
Speaker 1: Jamaican from London. He spent too. Let's make the point.
Speaker 1: Let's make the point. But we've got to make the
Speaker 1: point because listen, they're gonna fry you on the internet.
Speaker 1: You gotta tell we don't have fat I'm used to listen.
Speaker 1: The response has to be responsible. Now, the Puerto Rican
Speaker 1: sistem referred to Roads and Clemente or DJ and Candy
Speaker 1: and a bunch of people that they rock with a
Speaker 1: fashion a response to the Zulu Nation accusations. Because let's
Speaker 1: be clear, this to accusations. But even though the accusations,
Speaker 1: you have to take them seriously. You have to use
Speaker 1: the word victim. You have to say that these people
Speaker 1: are victims until proven otherwise, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you have to take it seriously. African being about a
Speaker 1: show step down, Zula Nation should step up in a
Speaker 1: way that they have not stepped up before. Rosa Clemente
Speaker 1: and Candy they are they are female members of the
Speaker 1: Zula Nation. They wrote a response that I retreated on
Speaker 1: my account. Um, if you google and Candy Rosa Clemente
Speaker 1: Zula Nation, you'll see they wrote the hip hop response
Speaker 1: that I co sa a response from hip hop to
Speaker 1: the alex. This is what needs this is what hip
Speaker 1: hop needs to hear. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: they they they spoke about, um, the silencing of victims.
Speaker 1: They spoke about how hard it is for victims of
Speaker 1: sexual abuse to speak up, and how it's taboo and
Speaker 1: how you ostracize if you're a victim of sexual abuse.
Speaker 1: And they spoke about all that, but they all spoke
Speaker 1: about how bi about it, how important he is in
Speaker 1: the coach is what I'm saying, Like, we can't not
Speaker 1: with African Bimbada and the Zula Nation and we can separate.
Speaker 1: If African Banba has done these things, and the evidence
Speaker 1: is pretty strong, it's pretty strong. But if he's done
Speaker 1: the things, we remember that from the Zulu Nation, the culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: African Bimbada, this is somebody who as a as a
Speaker 1: somebody who loves hip hop. I've revered, I've looked up to.
Speaker 1: There's a cultural worship, celebrity worship around him and people
Speaker 1: who worship him and people who because their introduction to
Speaker 1: hip hop and their relationship with hip hop is through
Speaker 1: African and Bader. You know what I'm saying, we have
Speaker 1: to stay away from celebrity worship. He's just a man.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, we have to acknowledge what he gave
Speaker 1: to the culture. But if these accusations and allegations are true,
Speaker 1: and the evidence present itself that is true, we got
Speaker 1: to deal with it and we have to. We have
Speaker 1: to take it seriously and we have to be responsible
Speaker 1: because we we as we come from a community of
Speaker 1: poor people. This this abuse in this type of stuff,
Speaker 1: whether he did it or not, it happens to poor
Speaker 1: people and it doesn't get reported, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like we have to make sure that we
Speaker 1: step up and we're responsible for you know, even fuck
Speaker 1: the court of law, how we deal with the youth.
Speaker 1: That's right. You know what I want to I want
Speaker 1: you to elaborate on is when you said you think
Speaker 1: he needs to step down because a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the community. I think he did step down. Um,
Speaker 1: the brother Muhammad, which was like his lifelong security guard,
Speaker 1: had just said the same thing. So I just wanted
Speaker 1: you to elaborate on for the people who don't know.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, what do you mean
Speaker 1: by that? Because well, because there's so much speculation and
Speaker 1: so much unanswered questions that you're tainting the legacy of
Speaker 1: Zulu Nation by not either speaking up about it or
Speaker 1: stepping down. Like I feel like I can't speak on
Speaker 1: that man because I'm not that man, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it was if it was me, even the possibility
Speaker 1: of the accusation, whether I did it or not, I
Speaker 1: would want to disassociate myself from hip hop, from Zulu
Speaker 1: Nation and deal with my own stepped down, know what,
Speaker 1: the effect that it's having one, And that's just me.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't speak for that man at all.
Speaker 1: He was saying, you gotta have you right? Do I
Speaker 1: need another drink? Drink? I was about to say, make
Speaker 1: some noise for that, but I don't know if people
Speaker 1: will kill me. But listen, you know, thank you, you know,
Speaker 1: live because you know why. Um Chris again, who was
Speaker 1: my mentor? I knew he kind of didn't understand that
Speaker 1: we gotta wait from that. Yeah, christ is Chris. Chris
Speaker 1: is somebody I think I think I paid attention. What
Speaker 1: he said on your show. I think it was clear,
Speaker 1: and I paid attention to his end, and I gotta
Speaker 1: say this and this listen, let me let me. Chris
Speaker 1: is a friend of mine, we have records together. This
Speaker 1: is my mentor, this is my favorite. I'm say this
Speaker 1: is somebody who I've learned. I was talking him. I
Speaker 1: hit you because I heard together to night the night before,
Speaker 1: so I didn't show with him the night before. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I gotta say this, I wish he wouldn't have wrote
Speaker 1: that opad. I wish he would have wrote it in
Speaker 1: a different fashion because I don't feel like he cleared
Speaker 1: anything up with the end right exactly. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like the op ed helped him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't. I don't feel like he
Speaker 1: clarified his position. You know. I think, as somebody who
Speaker 1: loves hip hop and somebody who understands the impact of
Speaker 1: what Africa about It has done for hip hop, I
Speaker 1: think that his vision was a little clouded when he
Speaker 1: wrote the op ed, what I'm saying, and I think
Speaker 1: that he was coming from a place in nostalgia, in
Speaker 1: a place of maybe possibly emotion, And because I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole like conspiracy theory thing, like the
Speaker 1: whole thing, like we shouldn't even be speaking they side,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't even be speaking on that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that, And I think I think that
Speaker 1: as as people who love music and people want to
Speaker 1: like you have everything, have context. Caress is somebody who
Speaker 1: hip hop saved his life. This is somebody who was
Speaker 1: homeless and rose to be one of the greatest poets
Speaker 1: and musicians of all time. Fuck a genre, fucking music,
Speaker 1: Caress is one of the greatest of all time. And
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that we're not You're not
Speaker 1: going to understand his position on it unless you understand
Speaker 1: hip hop. But we have to defend cars, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He wrote that head he had just come
Speaker 1: off that long ass cruise. He was like, it's so
Speaker 1: it's because yeah, he don't we explain that on the show.
Speaker 1: It was like crazy, because you know, I love Harris
Speaker 1: one man, that's my hero. Like, let me just say
Speaker 1: that it was that small and excellent. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's certain people that want to focus on that, and
Speaker 1: you know what, they have the right to because we're
Speaker 1: all public figures people can just like this interview, we
Speaker 1: got some dope ship, and we're gonna go into some
Speaker 1: dope with ship. But people can take and pick what
Speaker 1: they want. I can't wait to see what's might have.
Speaker 1: I'm out of pocket. That's wrong, It's fantastic. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about I can't what it is because you know why
Speaker 1: I'm Iron claud When I'm able to defend my position
Speaker 1: from every I love that. I'm like iron Cloud, iron Cloud,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? That means hardcore? Like that ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get you take iron That was hard and that
Speaker 1: was right. Yeah, I was like what that means? So
Speaker 1: now listen, you said it earlier, washing this who has Park?
Speaker 1: You said it very like nonchalantly. That's when you met
Speaker 1: David Chappelle. That, um no, I met Dave Chappe's working
Speaker 1: in the cure books. You had a lot of jobs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was a Jamaican. Yeah, let's make some noise to
Speaker 1: and um I was dating a girl who shall remain
Speaker 1: nameless and she had just broken up with Dave Chappelle. Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, that's all, that's all. And she
Speaker 1: used to talk about him, and I used to be like,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't hate it. You only only only ship
Speaker 1: that Dave Chappelle did at this um was Nutty Professor.
Speaker 1: He was Reggie, he was the brave. I used to
Speaker 1: be like the Reggie and did think of the piano Nigga.
Speaker 1: He was funny. Then the piano the piano nigga him.
Speaker 1: He was hating on the piano Nigga po not Buddy
Speaker 1: loves right now. Buddy loved the piano Nigga got one
Speaker 1: scene she said yes. I said, look she broke up
Speaker 1: with me and went, I think she went back with
Speaker 1: Hi Niga after that. Just keep it going, keep it
Speaker 1: going earlier, shall remain nameless, he knows. A couple of
Speaker 1: years later, uh Corey Smith used to manage da last song. Okay.
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle lived in Yellow Springs. He grew up Yellow Springs, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Uh Dani also had a show near there. I went
Speaker 1: to the show. I was hot Tech and Cincinnati, so
Speaker 1: I yeah, I rolled up to the show. Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: was at the day las So show and I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, you and me used to deal with the
Speaker 1: same chick. By this time he had did half big
Speaker 1: though he did happen by this time it was out
Speaker 1: and it was a cold classic. So this time I'm
Speaker 1: like Dave Chappelle, fun with you. You with the same chick,
Speaker 1: but I fuxed with you and he said really, And
Speaker 1: I told him the story. I see him in the
Speaker 1: hallway and all that, but he didn't know who I was.
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, and then we was cool. Then
Speaker 1: a couple of years later, I was an Electric Lady
Speaker 1: working on the album of High Tech on Street. Of course,
Speaker 1: I know, you know this is crazy. And I just
Speaker 1: seen a Zy do a documentary and he's speaking about
Speaker 1: Electric Lady because you guys were trying to like when
Speaker 1: I was working the Electric Lady, I was on the
Speaker 1: top floor, Common was on the second floor. We're gonna
Speaker 1: like water for chocolate. J Will you remember that white cat.
Speaker 1: You used to want to shoot that white cat which
Speaker 1: had a white cat, an electric lady. I remember the
Speaker 1: White chicks Mary a cat. They had a cat. You know,
Speaker 1: come on, you know what I'm talking about. They had
Speaker 1: a white cat. The cat used to just look at
Speaker 1: me and like, yo, I'm a straight I have I
Speaker 1: just have a gun on me. I'm still I like killer.
Speaker 1: I was gonna kill that cat. That's right. It's a
Speaker 1: white cat. And they ustill always say that's Jimmy Hendrix
Speaker 1: saying the cat jim personal. You guys are crazy. Listen, Jimmie,
Speaker 1: this is Jimmie Hendrick studio. Jimmy Hendricks was in the cat,
Speaker 1: so they said the spirit of jim was in this
Speaker 1: cat with I used to go to the bathroom. And
Speaker 1: you know, you can't ask the guys to go with
Speaker 1: mad homies, so you can't act the homies want me
Speaker 1: to do the bathroom. That's the only thing to look
Speaker 1: at you like, the next what the fuck? That cat?
Speaker 1: This cat was in was in the studio and the
Speaker 1: studio reflection, internal training thought, because in every studio was
Speaker 1: like just whatever chocolate D'Angelo was downstairs in the baseball kid.
Speaker 1: You notice at the same time, and this is they
Speaker 1: say that Jimmy Hendrix. They say that because you know
Speaker 1: that Jimmy owned the studio owned. I swear to god,
Speaker 1: I've never take the story before, my man. I haven't
Speaker 1: thought about that cat many years. And you know this
Speaker 1: is why I know the cat is special. I'm allergic
Speaker 1: to cats. I never broke out when I went to
Speaker 1: the studio. I did bad from TV, there was recorded
Speaker 1: an electric lady, so I forgot the point he was making.
Speaker 1: But you was an electric lady. So if you listen
Speaker 1: to the Reflection turn album, here drops right. There was
Speaker 1: this girl that I knew there was dating Lennox Lewis
Speaker 1: at the time. And we're still on the Chappale right.
Speaker 1: She brought LENNYX Lewis the studio. So if you listen
Speaker 1: Reflection he was dating Lenniz Lewis. Girl. Again, what kind
Speaker 1: of big are you? Tyler? I thought, that's what that's
Speaker 1: your home girl, girl, my girl. He said it like
Speaker 1: that's my girl. But I think he wasn't. That's right.
Speaker 1: I can't very restal, he's very Now you listening to
Speaker 1: Reflection turn albums, Lex Lewis he has won two or
Speaker 1: three four Reflection turne. Gil Scott Heron is on the
Speaker 1: Reflection turnout. He came to the problem. He came in
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle. I'm walking on the street on a street
Speaker 1: going to Grace s Pappie. That's the hot dog spot
Speaker 1: for those that don't know. I see Dave Chappelle. I said,
Speaker 1: remember me from the Daylight Show. He said yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: I work on the album. He came to the studio.
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle came every day after that day. So when
Speaker 1: you hear Dave, Rick James and Nelson Mandela opening the reflection,
Speaker 1: that's Dave Chappelle doing all that was, Yeah, that's Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 1: Did not know this, Yeah, he came through every day
Speaker 1: when we high TechEd that album, Da Chappelle was in
Speaker 1: the studio every day that album. But this is this
Speaker 1: was right when half half after half bab we don't
Speaker 1: know he's there. But this this was no Chappelle show,
Speaker 1: nothing right there. So then how did that happen? Autumn
Speaker 1: years later he starts the Chappelle Because you guys were
Speaker 1: performing for him, like even before his show blew up,
Speaker 1: it seemed like a family. Now he was in the
Speaker 1: studio for all that. He was an electric lady around
Speaker 1: all that time. And so he got the show and
Speaker 1: shout out to Corey Smith once again him and had
Speaker 1: a good had a good relationship. He got a deal
Speaker 1: with Comedy Central. He said, I want to do the
Speaker 1: show Chappelle Show, but one of his visions was I
Speaker 1: want to have the musicians that I fun and didn't
Speaker 1: you're perform in the kitchens one time that was that
Speaker 1: was common and Kanye cool. Okay, so he had Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. I didn't get by you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he had Big Boy, he had Celo, he had
Speaker 1: DMX whatever he needed two words to performed that there
Speaker 1: most and whatever David listened to at the time, That's
Speaker 1: what he had on this show. That's what I was saying,
Speaker 1: like he was in the hip hop And then when
Speaker 1: he did block Party, the block Party was it wasn't
Speaker 1: it was the best time in Yeah, And Dave paid
Speaker 1: for that. He paid for that. We filmed it and
Speaker 1: then he sold it to the movie company. So he
Speaker 1: didn't know if he was gonna know he did. We
Speaker 1: just we just did it. He just and I got.
Speaker 1: I made royalties off off of that. You know, for years,
Speaker 1: I can't remember my last Royal Tea check, but for
Speaker 1: years I made money off that. For Block part its revolutionary.
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, as a black man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my own ship. I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put it out. So the nigger girl you was kept
Speaker 1: it real with you five come on, I worked out that.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm regretting that. So now I'm not. Let me
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You meet Dave, he's a
Speaker 1: regular guy, You're a regular guy. You guys both become stars.
Speaker 1: He makes you a part of the show. Then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he did you have a call him
Speaker 1: about that? Or yeah, I was. I was hanging out
Speaker 1: with Dave around a lot of that time and at
Speaker 1: the time he quit. Yeah, you know, he you know,
Speaker 1: he was in a situation where he felt compromised. He
Speaker 1: felt like the money that he took and the money
Speaker 1: that he accepted made him they was taking advantage of him,
Speaker 1: and like a cornery rave this. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: like a lot of these kids that they a lot
Speaker 1: of kids. Everybody loved Dave Chappelle, but not everybody understood
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle. Like and I'm hearing this, this is the
Speaker 1: woman that I heard. I'm hearing that it was from
Speaker 1: black folks like like Oprah, And maybe I don't. I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't speaking with that man. Okay, yeah, Like, but
Speaker 1: but from what I observed, you know, I think that
Speaker 1: his comedy, Dave Chappelle comedy, like the best comedy, was
Speaker 1: very intellectual. People didn't understand the nuances Dave Chappelle come
Speaker 1: from educated people. You know, he comes from black academia.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he comes from heavy
Speaker 1: ideas and intellectualism, but it's broken down in the comedy way.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people got the funniness of it
Speaker 1: but didn't get the point. And I think I heard
Speaker 1: like princes princesses. But even even on something like heard,
Speaker 1: you got a prince story, I got several princes. Hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get the hard all right, hold on, we
Speaker 1: gotta set we gotta set this up, all right, So
Speaker 1: hold on, time out here quality from we just switch
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, we always horrible. I'm not cutting off.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I haven't cut him off yet. Just see
Speaker 1: stories I sweat because you know you from Brooklyn. Yes,
Speaker 1: you had flash all day. You have fifteen hundred jobs
Speaker 1: before you were sixteen dred job. Choose one you become
Speaker 1: an m C prince. I don't give a funk if
Speaker 1: you're a killer. I don't give a funk if you're
Speaker 1: a backpack on this, if you always princess guard to
Speaker 1: all of us as far as making music and art, music,
Speaker 1: creative coaches, finest broad YEP and your first time mean
Speaker 1: Prince when you first subscribed, shout to dj Q my wife,
Speaker 1: dj Q, I like, I like how you pick up
Speaker 1: your wife? God damn it. How five? That's real? Five,
Speaker 1: real ship. Let's make some noise for that. L A right,
Speaker 1: she didn't stretch. She's a She's a world class famous DJ,
Speaker 1: and Prince got to liking her DJ skills. She became
Speaker 1: a wife work with Prince. This is not started out.
Speaker 1: This is not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm a jealous guy. Prince, you listen, Prince, you gotta
Speaker 1: get the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's not doing your Prince. Now. She was
Speaker 1: DJ in his party. You know what? And by this
Speaker 1: time when I met Prince, first I met Prince was
Speaker 1: maybe a house of blues l A M. She was DJ.
Speaker 1: You know he did he float? Now, he didn't levitate
Speaker 1: to float. He had a second back. Prince Prince knew
Speaker 1: his hip hop when I first met him. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he knew, but he knew certain
Speaker 1: type of hip and he knew like common. He like
Speaker 1: like common I am, And it was like he likes
Speaker 1: certain things into something. He like hip hop, and he
Speaker 1: like hip hop. That was a little bit more like organic,
Speaker 1: saying like he liked like Lauren Hell, you know, like Common,
Speaker 1: like he really liked Colmon a lot, like he's a
Speaker 1: Common fan and and and Common is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite Common work with him at all. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Common might have worked Prince here. He like Erica,
Speaker 1: I do a lot, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: Prince I met yeah, yes, yeah, So when I met him,
Speaker 1: he said, I like that. He said, like, I like
Speaker 1: that one son. You the hot thing I was saying,
Speaker 1: I have so will I am hot thing was on
Speaker 1: the hook and and he like he liked, well I
Speaker 1: am a black Eye's and that type of ship. Um.
Speaker 1: I started just hanging out doing parties. You know my wife,
Speaker 1: My wife would do parties. Prince was shot up at
Speaker 1: the parties. Was just short, hold on, how does this happen?
Speaker 1: Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks
Speaker 1: in the basketball like yeah, I mean no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, walk in the party. He walking the party.
Speaker 1: You know. I went to a party once in l A.
Speaker 1: What's that club that's across the street from the Beverly Center.
Speaker 1: The club that's his name is Prince walked in the
Speaker 1: club ended in. Prince kept a bunch of us in
Speaker 1: the club and at gun point, no, not a good point,
Speaker 1: but he's Prince. He just did to look almost gun point,
Speaker 1: and everybody stayed point. He put out a little Bible. Wait, Prince,
Speaker 1: he said, he did Jehovah's wait and Jehovah's witness. They
Speaker 1: get down like that the Bible. He started having Bible study.
Speaker 1: Don't you know drinking three in the morning was niggas drinking.
Speaker 1: There was no niggas there. It's only women and me
Speaker 1: because my wife is DJ, so I was the only
Speaker 1: nig And there was one other dude who was a
Speaker 1: boyfriend of one of the other girls. So it's Prince
Speaker 1: and me and this other dude. All right, don't pass that.
Speaker 1: This others passing back to me. I got you. This
Speaker 1: other dude, Prince, Prince was quoting the horrible he's caughting
Speaker 1: the Bible, and this other dude trying to say something smart.
Speaker 1: And now this other dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay,
Speaker 1: he just happened to be there. He tried to say
Speaker 1: something and Prince, I'll never forget this Prince said, listen, Um,
Speaker 1: I know you think that you're saying something to add
Speaker 1: onto the conversation, but you really you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: From what you're saying, I could tell you don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So how about you just not participating?
Speaker 1: The Prince about the whipper, Nika asked, but I'm asking
Speaker 1: was He politely told him, you don't know the funk
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No? He
Speaker 1: did not. He did not. I've been several. I've been
Speaker 1: several clubs, and Prince had chuck tail keep his clues,
Speaker 1: keep going on this print stories, and then went to
Speaker 1: a club. Do you have been the Zeni? L A
Speaker 1: had the party called Zeni they used to have. I
Speaker 1: had Big Zini before Big z at two o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, the clubs and l A clothes all right, yes,
Speaker 1: And then this dude used to have this party called Zeni.
Speaker 1: We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios.
Speaker 1: Jim Henson, right, and I need to know these types
Speaker 1: of people I live. Come on my party. I'm bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with big big birds with Ernie and
Speaker 1: Bart and bird and ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he's at these parties. But they used to bring
Speaker 1: the alcohol and he's just set up. Stay. You just
Speaker 1: have go go dances and all the celebrities used to go,
Speaker 1: and all the basketball players and that it was he's definitely.
Speaker 1: I was a prince called my wife and he said,
Speaker 1: wait the party at and we said we had ZENI yeah,
Speaker 1: said I'm coming. And this nigger just rolled up and
Speaker 1: told I had the privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Prince. I gotta just to beavis story when
Speaker 1: you finish, I'm bringing Prince. How the hell is just
Speaker 1: In Prince going together? Because Justin Pieper said that what
Speaker 1: Prince the only nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: remember that. This great hate when to be cut us all.
Speaker 1: Like Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing
Speaker 1: and he said, this party is great, but why is
Speaker 1: she up there dancing with no clothes on? She was,
Speaker 1: he had clothes on, she things covered, but he said
Speaker 1: why She just said, you don't need to be done,
Speaker 1: you know, because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince, this
Speaker 1: is not the last dragon Prince, because this is not like,
Speaker 1: definitely not the prince wild back in the days, in
Speaker 1: the eighties. He was out of control, so I said,
Speaker 1: listen out. He asked me to introduce him to the
Speaker 1: party promoter. I introduced him, and he said he explained
Speaker 1: to me. He said, listen to the girls. They bring
Speaker 1: business people, buy drinks, Prince, and let me talk to her.
Speaker 1: You're trying to convert. Let me talk to her. I
Speaker 1: need to hear this, saying the he talked to the girl.
Speaker 1: The girl didn't know who Prince was. Young chick, young
Speaker 1: chick dance in the club. She might have heard the
Speaker 1: name Prince. She didn't know. She's going to die to night.
Speaker 1: This is a long time ago story, the old story.
Speaker 1: She turned. He said. He said, how much are they
Speaker 1: paying you to be in to dance with your clothes off?
Speaker 1: She said the number? He said, I'll pay you double
Speaker 1: to get down off that stage go home. That makes
Speaker 1: the noise of a prince being a trick? Is that
Speaker 1: reverse pimper? That's reverse per put your clothes on. Prince
Speaker 1: invented reverse pimping. She said, I'll take your money tonight,
Speaker 1: but what am I going to do tomorrow night. That's
Speaker 1: what this girl said to Prince. I wonders what was
Speaker 1: he said. I don't have no control for that. That's real.
Speaker 1: P figured it out. I got you to my motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to quote the verbatim. Besides that, he
Speaker 1: did say that him. Beyond that, he basically explained to her.
Speaker 1: He was like, listen, I'm giving you an opportunity to
Speaker 1: make a different decision in your life. I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I watched him explain to this girl and talk to
Speaker 1: the girl, and I knew from the way that she
Speaker 1: was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy.
Speaker 1: She didn't understand. She was just like, okay, yeah, Prince
Speaker 1: had an album covered with like three bitches buttond on
Speaker 1: top of him, maybe some dudes, and the everybody thought
Speaker 1: he was gay. Wasn't ready for your princess princes God. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he stuck to his guns and and he understood every
Speaker 1: artist and me and Nori, the fact that we even
Speaker 1: here doing drink champs smoking, we talking about stoking about
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We understand that every artist got contradictions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nature of being an artist's hest one. The person that
Speaker 1: we were here. It is the most contradictory artists whatever,
Speaker 1: but we were That's part of being human, like you said,
Speaker 1: being because all human beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions
Speaker 1: amplified because people pay more attention. You know, say everybody
Speaker 1: got contradictions. Artists, we just we create out of our contradiction.
Speaker 1: I say, right. But Prince was like Jesus man, listen
Speaker 1: to tell you something I've never liked. Billy Dee Williams
Speaker 1: transcended for me. Like what I mean by that is
Speaker 1: like Billy D. Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince and Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: was people who were like, you know, I grew up
Speaker 1: in a different you know, a different time like that
Speaker 1: he did, Billy d Williamson, that's a hood nigd with
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Prince and they said, Billy d those
Speaker 1: were certain people, you know, those were certain people. Yeah, drink,
Speaker 1: I'm still going in the secondary. That's that smooth down
Speaker 1: in my taste now. But you know, for those those
Speaker 1: those those four individuals right there, those are the people
Speaker 1: who transcended life for me. There was the people that no, no, no,
Speaker 1: keep it over here, let's keep it over here. So
Speaker 1: those are the people that transcend the life for me.
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is like, you know, as
Speaker 1: a black person growing up young in my life, I
Speaker 1: can't describe anybody else here or anybody in my life.
Speaker 1: It was like, those are the people that said you
Speaker 1: can't do this, you can't do that, and they did it,
Speaker 1: and I was just like I always looked at them.
Speaker 1: It was like I ain't I ain't gotta be like them,
Speaker 1: but I respect that what I'm saying. And that's why
Speaker 1: when I met with people like for Rell, it was
Speaker 1: easy for me to say, I don't understand you, and
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really get where you're going there,
Speaker 1: but your music is fucking bank. How did you meet?
Speaker 1: That's how I met at how I meant for uh.
Speaker 1: We was in sad don't doing sound studios. Everybody used
Speaker 1: to stick. Everybody used to think. Biggie used to be
Speaker 1: called at Daddy's. How something happened at daddy's house, I
Speaker 1: don't remember, but Big but Big used to come to
Speaker 1: sound on sound studios and he used to have upstairs
Speaker 1: or I used to have downstairs. And I used to
Speaker 1: see Biggie. After the war report, I used to see
Speaker 1: biggie like almost every day I'm working on in R. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh friend of mines. He was my manager at
Speaker 1: the time. I believe Martin Maure, Martin Moore from Martin
Speaker 1: Moore from yeah, OK, because that's part of my We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that I used to when I was fourteen.
Speaker 1: People don't realize the skit. So he discovered me. He's
Speaker 1: gotta got me signed. But Martin Maure said to me, um,
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, these dudes they up here, they're trying
Speaker 1: to work with puff and so I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: like I had the UMR had that hard the whole
Speaker 1: album was done. Um. So he comes like yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So he comes to sound on sound and he goes, um,
Speaker 1: and I just I just remember I met some dude
Speaker 1: in Canada just now reminded me of for real. He
Speaker 1: was trying to be for real, but he reminded me
Speaker 1: for real because his inner attitude, not not the attitude
Speaker 1: that he was trying to show me, but his inner attitude,
Speaker 1: but for all actually came up to me and said, yo, um,
Speaker 1: nobody never listens to me. And I was like that
Speaker 1: was awkward, Like that was his first sentence, Like nobody
Speaker 1: Neames listened to me. The person that does is going
Speaker 1: to go through the roof, and I'm walking. I'm hot,
Speaker 1: but I'm like something something in my body said, shut
Speaker 1: up and listen to this guy. So I listened and
Speaker 1: he goes the first person that listens to me, I've
Speaker 1: worked with other people. And then it said and then
Speaker 1: he started quoting Bloody Money to me, saying, and I
Speaker 1: was like, damn. I was like, alright, cool. You know
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. He don't look like a Bloody
Speaker 1: Money type of guy. He's not supposed to be knowing
Speaker 1: that song off the album and get manut with war
Speaker 1: Report that basement. I was just telling you about. That's
Speaker 1: what I used to listen to component Oriegan war Report.
Speaker 1: You're tiler. How old are you? Like nine hundred years
Speaker 1: because you got to save it. I'm forty this year
Speaker 1: and that year and then trying to out of forty.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the forty one. Feel like
Speaker 1: this is incredible. Yeah, he gave your five, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't really what you like. He started thinking about doing
Speaker 1: d whatever it is. Yeah, so yeah, let me just
Speaker 1: ask you. Every gonna get men's Men's club. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you some weird ship that happens. I'm real talk.
Speaker 1: I would like this herritt. I was with my girl.
Speaker 1: We went to the pick up your girl. We took
Speaker 1: her let's make some your finger. It took her grandma
Speaker 1: to the casino for mother to get grandma her grandma. Okay,
Speaker 1: god bad because you know, to go play the joints.
Speaker 1: So I go to the bathroom and some dude I
Speaker 1: think I think he's Jamaican. I think he's Jamaican. Did
Speaker 1: you know he had an accident. I couldn't place the accident.
Speaker 1: It was somebody that could have been Canada. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm washing my hands and the dude walks
Speaker 1: in and he just looks at me and he said,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna die your beards That's what he said, No,
Speaker 1: no my hands. At this point, no it would have been.
Speaker 1: And I said, h I don't like it. I don't
Speaker 1: like to die. I don't like none of that ship.
Speaker 1: He's like really but Matt like pencil like he's thinking
Speaker 1: because he was thinking, and he's older than me. I
Speaker 1: could tell he's older than me. So I'm like, alright,
Speaker 1: cool is that? Because I'm out of here, bro. And
Speaker 1: then he's like, it looks good man. I'm like you
Speaker 1: says his life that name. You gave him confidence and
Speaker 1: let his let his DoD just fade out, give him confidence.
Speaker 1: He looked any crazy man. That's my story. So when's
Speaker 1: the last time you spoke to y'all? See Bay? I
Speaker 1: know that? Yeah, yeah, about about a month ago. I
Speaker 1: went out of South Africa. Hold on time, let's make
Speaker 1: some noise flaws on us one more time. I went
Speaker 1: out to see y'all seeing you went out there hang
Speaker 1: out with him Ferrari Shepherd and you know, y'all see
Speaker 1: Bay is you know he's a He's a beautiful dude.
Speaker 1: Like this dude is like you know, he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a Muslim and a lot of his um, a
Speaker 1: lot of his music in his stands has to do
Speaker 1: with incorporating Islam. I'm trying to figure out that living
Speaker 1: as a as a Muslim can come back to America.
Speaker 1: I can't speak on this situation at this particular time,
Speaker 1: but um, I know that he he hasn't wanted to
Speaker 1: be in America for a long time. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to come out here. Yeah, regardless of his particular political
Speaker 1: situation in South Africa, you know, as you notice here
Speaker 1: in a minute and et still travel. Okay, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that I'm appalled because you know, um, he
Speaker 1: is somebody who exists completely and totally outside of the
Speaker 1: music business. He exists as an artist like the business.
Speaker 1: He exists as an artist, as a creative spirit, like
Speaker 1: the epitome of an artist. Like this is this is real?
Speaker 1: Like this is real. Like I'm not Muslim. I would
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't, you know, I respect Islam. I
Speaker 1: respect I respect um people, anybody who searched for truth.
Speaker 1: So what would you claim if somebody would ask you,
Speaker 1: what would you I'm just me, you know, I recognize
Speaker 1: that God and all like that. If you recognize the
Speaker 1: God in yourself, I recognize the God in you everything.
Speaker 1: I'm every religion and I'm every gang too. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of but that's how you gotta beever whoever
Speaker 1: I'm hanging with. I'm a vice lord. You of the car.
Speaker 1: You understand the craft, the theory of the one. He's
Speaker 1: every game, everything, everything everything you know. But but but
Speaker 1: this is how this sounds. This is out y'all seen bay,
Speaker 1: Like I went out there and and he's I'm talking
Speaker 1: to him and he's quoting verses from the Koran and
Speaker 1: not in South Africa, did you stay in huts? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: in South Africa's South Africa's the most developed countries. There's
Speaker 1: a W out there. No, there's no w. But this
Speaker 1: some nice hotels is some nice spots that I'm western. No,
Speaker 1: they got a whole different system, all right, can you
Speaker 1: name me one otherwise? South Africa is no Chaine. South
Speaker 1: Africa's though, change the chain hotels. You can go to Sheraton,
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you can. You can
Speaker 1: get a Star Wars. They better not be four point Sheridan.
Speaker 1: That's a difference. That's a difference. I don't want to
Speaker 1: fourth point, but but both points that still, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you one to the to the boutique hotels into
Speaker 1: the official spots outside of You're very You're very rich,
Speaker 1: I can tell by the way you just can you
Speaker 1: somebody hearing me? I'm not rich, I'm not ready. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm a working class and c who figured out I've
Speaker 1: cracked the code. I've seen. That's now. You know what's
Speaker 1: funny about you saying that when I when I say
Speaker 1: I'm a working class image. Listen, I'll tell you something.
Speaker 1: I see the damage. I knew he was gonna get drunk.
Speaker 1: He's my man. Yeah, he gets spent. You know that.
Speaker 1: I know he drinks for the same block. You know
Speaker 1: I said, when you been a nigger, said, man, I
Speaker 1: just stay in Europe. I get this money. He pulled
Speaker 1: out a passport that's looked like a phone book. My nigger,
Speaker 1: let me explain. Let this nick a ju to damage
Speaker 1: to live in Berlin. Listen, I went to Berlin, Big
Speaker 1: up Berlin, grimy people. What specks that you go to?
Speaker 1: You see a post time, you see posted everywhere. Horn?
Speaker 1: That horn is terrible one. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. J
Speaker 1: in Berlin, I'm sorry. And that was we needed a
Speaker 1: proper horn for you at that Berlin was gonna let
Speaker 1: them give you a fake horn. We're getting that. He
Speaker 1: getting that fucking that fucking tear down the war money. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I think the passport was like this. I went to
Speaker 1: the first time I went to South Africa. I went
Speaker 1: with JA. I went with damage. You I'll be I'll
Speaker 1: be in certain countries. I'll be in like Croatia or
Speaker 1: some ship I'll be in a club and tap me
Speaker 1: the shoulder. I think live in Malmo. He lived in Malmo, Sweden.
Speaker 1: Malmo is the Malmo in a half hour from from
Speaker 1: copen Hagen, Denmark. If you go to Malmo, Sweden, you
Speaker 1: hang out with j ro alcoholics. But this is a
Speaker 1: fraternity of working class room ceas that are all over
Speaker 1: the world. I know where all they at. I know
Speaker 1: I know where they ad. I travel the world. I
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Speaker 1: Why they like y'all revolution because like I would to
Speaker 1: consider you a revolution every activist hip hop type of guy. Right.
Speaker 1: But like your biggest crowds as white people. Yes, that
Speaker 1: happen because white people have money and they can afford
Speaker 1: to come to the concert. They afford. Niggers the hood
Speaker 1: don't have money. They can't go to concerts. They're just
Speaker 1: be in the hood. White people be like they look
Speaker 1: in the village Voice and they look in the in
Speaker 1: the time out in New York and they'll be like,
Speaker 1: I want to go to concert. I have some extra
Speaker 1: money to spend. I'm gonna go to concert. I like
Speaker 1: Tyler Corlin's a good choking. But you know that's that's
Speaker 1: a good thing. Who has please, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Because hip hop music is folk music. It don't matter
Speaker 1: if you're white, black, Jupiterian. You know what I'm saying, Jupiter,
Speaker 1: I'm speaking Jupiterian. I'm with you. Let me get a
Speaker 1: five people federations under that sounds right up, Noriega language.
Speaker 1: I'm using it up, Terry, go ahead, continue. Hip hop
Speaker 1: speaking the language that people speak right now. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying so hip hop the reason hip hop is united
Speaker 1: more cultures than any music and than any music. Hip
Speaker 1: hop has united more cultures than any force anything in
Speaker 1: the history of the planning. More white people, black people,
Speaker 1: brown people, yellow people, read people get together over hip
Speaker 1: hop music than anything. You know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 1: hip hop speaking the language that we're all speaking and
Speaker 1: speaking the language is going on right now. So when
Speaker 1: Nori came out, like what what what what what what?
Speaker 1: That's what niggas was on the street saying at the time.
Speaker 1: That's what nigga was saying. And whatever niggas is saying
Speaker 1: right now, whether it be Panda or whatever and whatever
Speaker 1: whatever is going on, that's what's happening right now, and
Speaker 1: then make it make it to a record. Country music
Speaker 1: is like that. Folk folk music is like what it
Speaker 1: was like that, but folk usic it is not a
Speaker 1: popular art form like it was in the seventies, you
Speaker 1: know what they're like. But country music is like to
Speaker 1: be besides country music. And I don't country music. I'm
Speaker 1: not a country music fan, but I recognize real recognize
Speaker 1: really you know what I'm saying that the country music
Speaker 1: is about struggle. It's about white people struggle, American big
Speaker 1: storytellers in the music. It's beautiful and it's it's similar
Speaker 1: to hip hop in that regard. But hip hop is
Speaker 1: our ship. What I'm saying, hip hop is our ship.
Speaker 1: Golf Brooks and the niggas, yeah, they gotta struggle. That
Speaker 1: country music that's Golf Brooks. That's country music right horse
Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, Like I mean, like it's definitely their
Speaker 1: version of reality. You know what I'm saying, Country Muic.
Speaker 1: It's music. I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: it all the way you wonna keep it all change.
Speaker 1: It's music made by uneducated people there. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying uneducated as a judgment. He was about to take
Speaker 1: some of that Dame Dash Whiskey by the way, people
Speaker 1: you people out there and let people know we got
Speaker 1: day Dash Whiskey on the table, yes, representing for you
Speaker 1: that Now, now even let me feel you get into that.
Speaker 1: Let me just qualify my statement before. But I say uneducated,
Speaker 1: I'm not meaning the disk. I mean people that don't
Speaker 1: receive the standard westernized traditional education. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like niggas might have dropped out of high school, but
Speaker 1: it's still run the world. Bill Gates didn't graduate from
Speaker 1: college but still made a lot of money. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when I say uneducated, uneducated, it's
Speaker 1: not a judgment. But there's white people in the South
Speaker 1: that didn't have the traditional education. You know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like even the term niggad, like even if we're niggas
Speaker 1: to political for us quick real quick. Even the term
Speaker 1: niggad was white people not understanding how to pronounce the
Speaker 1: Spanish were negatro negative. Say niggad, it becomes it was
Speaker 1: niggra negative south sain right, right, So as they did,
Speaker 1: it became nigger over time. That's where the word nigger
Speaker 1: comes from. It comes from not having a Western standardized education,
Speaker 1: you were saying. So when I say un educated, it's
Speaker 1: not the dis nobody. So okay, all right, so now
Speaker 1: we heard a room on that Kanye. I think Kanye's
Speaker 1: first feature was like with you? Is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I used to with Kanye back in the days. Wait before,
Speaker 1: Does that mean you don't sunk with them? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Kanye West fan. What was the
Speaker 1: first time you met met Kanye? The first time I
Speaker 1: met Kanye Um, I was working on my quality album
Speaker 1: that I'm not get bias on. I was in Platinum
Speaker 1: Platinum studios. He came through No Idea or Platinum Mine
Speaker 1: of studios. You still own that. It's like, that's Platinum studios,
Speaker 1: that's platinum. Okay. So what student's Latinum island? Which was
Speaker 1: Ken Duro Eiffel Duro? Right, Douro used to be the
Speaker 1: I had an engineer at Platinum Island. Platinum Island was
Speaker 1: in the same building or across the same next door
Speaker 1: to room was next door to Rookoes downtown, right right,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm working in Platinum Island Studios. Uh huh,
Speaker 1: and Kanye West come through the door. Now. I'm doing
Speaker 1: a session from a quality album, and I'm winning the
Speaker 1: most deaf to show up because most of we have
Speaker 1: a song on my quality album called Joy. I'm wrapping
Speaker 1: about my kids and my kid's birth, and most def
Speaker 1: is on it. I took him a long time to
Speaker 1: record this verse. By this time, he was doing movies.
Speaker 1: He was blowing up. So I'm trying to get in
Speaker 1: touch on it was hard to get in touch room.
Speaker 1: Kanye come through the door. I never seen this Nick,
Speaker 1: never heard this Nick. He said, I'm here to meet
Speaker 1: most deaf. I said, well, guess what. He might not
Speaker 1: show up, But who are you? He said, most have
Speaker 1: told me to meet here? Meet him here. I got
Speaker 1: some beats, I said, play me the beats. We're gonna album.
Speaker 1: Kanye played me the Beasts. Every beat that Kanye played me,
Speaker 1: he played me for beasts at night. All the beats
Speaker 1: made into my album that makes noise for Kanye being
Speaker 1: a savage all I said, yo, I said, who I said, now,
Speaker 1: then beats you Nigga. That that's that's why he got
Speaker 1: an ego, because Nigga came in. He pitched you for you,
Speaker 1: bought for y'all living for from now blue. Every time
Speaker 1: ain't doing anything fucked up, we blame make some noise
Speaker 1: for the reason. I can't believe how good these beats
Speaker 1: was because I had never heard of him. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: how have I never heard of you and your beat
Speaker 1: of this quality? He told me, he said, I did
Speaker 1: beat on uh d I Angeletti album. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: beat on Jamaine dupri album four two. I did beat
Speaker 1: on Beatie Seagull. He told me he did the Truth
Speaker 1: and then the Reason Truth, all that, all that Beatie
Speaker 1: Seagull ship. But he said that. That's when I was like,
Speaker 1: play me some ship. So he did the Gorilla Manshoe rap,
Speaker 1: the good to You to get by all that ship
Speaker 1: on the Quality album, and um, I just was. And
Speaker 1: then when I went on tour, Common was on tour
Speaker 1: doing Electure circus. I was open to act. Kanye was like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my music out there. Niggas ain't
Speaker 1: sucking with me. I said, I said, come on toward me.
Speaker 1: He came on toward me. He came out every every
Speaker 1: way way you brought Kanye. When you listen to make
Speaker 1: some noise for to live bringing, Oh yeah, if I
Speaker 1: ain't my nigga, Tyler, he's too humble to say that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it for him. You listen to the
Speaker 1: last you ever heard of? Take a bone? Yes I have,
Speaker 1: I know about. You're not gonna take a shot? Were
Speaker 1: even New York City and I'll take a shot. Hold on.
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you finish your story first. We need
Speaker 1: more and more Kanyeum, you break it down, We're gonna
Speaker 1: do the last. He break it down, he said, He
Speaker 1: said Tyler Quality brought me on tour, perform on the
Speaker 1: tour and ship like. Did he say that? He said
Speaker 1: that on the last on the song College drop Out.
Speaker 1: He explained the whole story. I brought him on tour.
Speaker 1: Did you know he was crazy from the beginning? Oh listen,
Speaker 1: I was when Kanye West, when I first met him out,
Speaker 1: I said, hold on, y'all, hold on Nick and played
Speaker 1: me Jesus walks. When I first met the wait the
Speaker 1: first day you met him, and he probably the first day,
Speaker 1: maybe the first month or so or lyrics done. This
Speaker 1: is four or five years before she came out. Didn'
Speaker 1: nig played me? He played me Dear Mama, not Dear
Speaker 1: Mama to Hey Mama, La La la la. I said,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard nothing so beautiful in my life. He
Speaker 1: played me that, He played me Jesus Walks, I said,
Speaker 1: and it was the version that out this. This is
Speaker 1: before he had a deal, before College drop out. He
Speaker 1: played me Jesus Walks. He played me a bunch of
Speaker 1: a bunchet of those songs, a bunche of those songs.
Speaker 1: But I remember Jesus Walks and the Hey Mama. I said,
Speaker 1: you need to put these ships out now. He said, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: That's when Nigga said, he said, my first album is
Speaker 1: before he had a deal, no deal. I want to
Speaker 1: do what he wanted to do. He said, my first
Speaker 1: album is called College ramp Out on the songs. My
Speaker 1: next album is called Late Late Registration. That the that
Speaker 1: Jesus Walks and I mean the Hey Mama. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be a late registration Jesus Walks walks. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: my Jesus Walks was calculated from college dropout. But when
Speaker 1: he put it out, Jesus Walks with a single, he
Speaker 1: says it on the song, this is my single. Dog
Speaker 1: radio knees this. He says it on the song. And
Speaker 1: you knew, and you knew, like did you know he
Speaker 1: was a genius who you just knew? I couldn't to
Speaker 1: be real with you because niggas used assent tell him
Speaker 1: who everybody. Kanye had the hot beats, but niggas he
Speaker 1: was trying to sell himself as an artist, and niggas like,
Speaker 1: we want your beats. But and I used to be
Speaker 1: like he used. He used to be on the tour
Speaker 1: bus with us. He used to be rhyming. And he's
Speaker 1: wrong all the time. Every and you coming to the room,
Speaker 1: somebody knew coming to the room. He kicked the wrong
Speaker 1: like I say, I kicked around for you, somebody new
Speaker 1: coming to room. He kicking the round again for the
Speaker 1: new right. He was geting annoying in sometimes it's annoying.
Speaker 1: It's thirsty, thirsty, right, thirsty right, but he was he
Speaker 1: had no bounce, but he knew he was going. He
Speaker 1: knew he was going. Sometimes being thirsty. He needs listen.
Speaker 1: When we did we was you know my team, we
Speaker 1: did the street team for death Jen Rockefeller. Stop that
Speaker 1: stop that stop that time. And so I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: passing you a week, keep giving it away? What was
Speaker 1: I mean? I'm an interview moved you come on me?
Speaker 1: And what was he had the joints? When he had
Speaker 1: the when he got into the wire through the wire,
Speaker 1: that was it with? What was was homegirl? On in
Speaker 1: those school ghokan? Wait? Wait, hold on? Hold on? Nobody
Speaker 1: asked for shots to take a bone. Hold On said,
Speaker 1: I come on, did you say I gotta make an
Speaker 1: appearance at a club? We hadn't show a video right now,
Speaker 1: I gotta give my Kanye story. It's my one and
Speaker 1: a half Kanye story. Because this is gonnaun everybody like that.
Speaker 1: Did we drink this? Don't drink water water? We don't
Speaker 1: like water to drink Champs water because I do drink water.
Speaker 1: What I get some water? We got water here water?
Speaker 1: Then with extra HP real real drink real, drink champship
Speaker 1: because this is how you really do a drink Champs.
Speaker 1: You drink water so you can keep drinking. Let's make
Speaker 1: some noise to live, try and be smart. There's nothing
Speaker 1: smart about this shot me about to take. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just throw it out there. You gotta tell your story.
Speaker 1: The story is whack now, by the way, But why
Speaker 1: were doing We did the promo shot. Gigs was not here.
Speaker 1: We did Deaf Jam, Rockefeller water gone water going. Don't
Speaker 1: take that shot? Ye, don't take that shot. I got
Speaker 1: drunker a yeah, but I think you should take the
Speaker 1: water off the drink champs. How to do it? Drink
Speaker 1: when I was drink and drink water, bro, I'll the
Speaker 1: Gaumelet all right, cool wisdom. We need to be hydrated, man,
Speaker 1: so we can keep drinking. I'm gonna let you get
Speaker 1: away with this right now. Man, you I want you
Speaker 1: to drink water because I care about you. You know what.
Speaker 1: I can't the whole toy. There was like three people
Speaker 1: who just said then they can't drink water. I'm just
Speaker 1: landed and just like my story, go ahead, get to
Speaker 1: it's the story is white now. But you just for
Speaker 1: got your story. No, no, I don't. I was doing this.
Speaker 1: I was the street team manager from Miami for Deaf
Speaker 1: Jam and Rockefeller, and nobody believed in Kanye at Rocket right,
Speaker 1: so they did not. He leaked that record to remember that,
Speaker 1: and then he paid for the video head for the
Speaker 1: radio promotion and he has look at that. Nick is
Speaker 1: changing the rules for you. They got water and ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna water ruining my story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I out to talk of ball ahead. So he leaked
Speaker 1: the record what he lived, and he went to the
Speaker 1: he went to the he went to the Mix Shore
Speaker 1: Power summit in Puerto Rico. I was and we performed it.
Speaker 1: Commen was then most of them and at the windhom
Speaker 1: Resort in Puerto Rico Rio del Mar. He's still ruining
Speaker 1: my story. Yeah, we forgot you, so hold me. He
Speaker 1: organized out of pocket. He told all the reps. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold, I'm sorry, Jesus Christy. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Michael and the song with jay Z and Kanye and
Speaker 1: the song when they say uh DJ and Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: for three days though, that's what you're talking about. Get
Speaker 1: your story. I'm trying to be right. Continue. So you
Speaker 1: organize the conference call and he gets on the call
Speaker 1: and it's Kanye the way we know Kanye. He said,
Speaker 1: must it is hot and he to take it to
Speaker 1: the radio I'm coming to every market, be ready and
Speaker 1: to nobody knows. Look how he liked the way he
Speaker 1: thinks that he came on my Let's make some noise.
Speaker 1: Toland reve we all got mad respect for kan Yea,
Speaker 1: I have way more respect. I don't know why the
Speaker 1: table just moved, moved that whatever you got super hero
Speaker 1: straight drinking this crazy? Alright, listen, all right, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was lying before. No, but no, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I took a shot with this with Careress one after
Speaker 1: the show. That's impressive. After the show, he was my man.
Speaker 1: I did investigation on him, like you, I hate you
Speaker 1: straight up. You said you like Hennessy's like the dog,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't. I said, whatever dog right? He said whatever?
Speaker 1: But I didn't, you know, Careress, I did a real investigation. Beef,
Speaker 1: what a relief? When were this poison? This product? Cease
Speaker 1: definitely took it to a different angle when I'm with that.
Speaker 1: I didn't with that as well. But I I studied
Speaker 1: Caress and I knew he liked it. My ties right,
Speaker 1: so we had the people ties, so we had to
Speaker 1: be at the It's like it just was my pleasure,
Speaker 1: like a person I grew up listening to, even though
Speaker 1: I'm from Queens. I told him the Criminal Mary album,
Speaker 1: It's the only two songs I couldn't listen to because
Speaker 1: of my you know, loyalty, my loyalty if But now,
Speaker 1: so I do the investigation. I found out he likes
Speaker 1: my ties. We get the guys to make the best
Speaker 1: my ties in the world. We give him enough, we
Speaker 1: do it. So I had already run in my mind.
Speaker 1: I think we had a drunk Carress one and we
Speaker 1: had a drunk but I had one like in my
Speaker 1: mind it was like, this is Doe because it was interview.
Speaker 1: We had a little side step with the you know
Speaker 1: the way he answered it is okay, I've defended him.
Speaker 1: This is my brother. You know, I love him, and
Speaker 1: that's it's it's like my lyrical father, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I did take the shot with Caro
Speaker 1: Arress after the podcast. Now with that being said, this
Speaker 1: is my during the podcast. No, it was after. Now
Speaker 1: we're doing a shot a tiger bone during the podcast. Now, also,
Speaker 1: I must warn you, when did we get sushi with
Speaker 1: this when I took the show with Caress, he's my idol.
Speaker 1: His next started sweat. I knew he was drunk. There's
Speaker 1: no way your next swat unless you're drunk. Ship when
Speaker 1: you're next swat. So if our next sway, we're gonna
Speaker 1: end this interview early, all right, but we gotta yo.
Speaker 1: He hates this ship. Hey man, you know, listen, we
Speaker 1: gotta show you how we do this live on drink treat.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna front. This chair is killed my sa
Speaker 1: I've been I've been trying to drill less. Feel like
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the poet. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: This podcast is ruining my career, everything, everything, everything, You
Speaker 1: know what. Somebody tweeting me the other day said, thank
Speaker 1: you knowing for sacrifices. You liver people's life. So liver man,
Speaker 1: that's my liver. All right, listen, So this is how
Speaker 1: we do it, all right. I think that was your drink.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one who is who's drinking? You
Speaker 1: got to all right, you gotta take their glasses all
Speaker 1: just for this. Yeah, yeah, we gotta see you guys sideways.
Speaker 1: This is Tiger Bone. Man. You're from New York City.
Speaker 1: You know alright, respect, I used to I used to drink.
Speaker 1: This is three thousand, all right, I'm done. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: come on you yea, where you at? Sunny? Your shot?
Speaker 1: Right here? There's your second shot. Okay, I'll take it
Speaker 1: right now, got it? That was not fair? Oh where
Speaker 1: my water? Holy Toledo's kid. This is disgusting, man, yo,
Speaker 1: But I even keep drinking his ancient tiny secret broy.
Speaker 1: Somebody gave me a water. They just oh here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you gotta take my ship. Yeah, man, gonna take
Speaker 1: another one toilet? You can't. You can't. That's your that's
Speaker 1: the other one. That's for the coach. I don't want
Speaker 1: to make sure that in my pocket and take it
Speaker 1: with for the coaches. For the coach. I don't take
Speaker 1: another one toilet. So now now I don't want to
Speaker 1: stay standing now now, I want to stay standing to
Speaker 1: stand up there. Yeah, I'm gonna you can stand up.
Speaker 1: Do what happened. We'll be honest. I'm gonna sit down.
Speaker 1: So it's a stand up. It's okay. Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: a stand up and stand up to this ship. I
Speaker 1: told you, I told you all tag. Won't change your life, man,
Speaker 1: change your life. Everybody has a Tiger Bowl story about me.
Speaker 1: You noticed that when you don't see you, you made
Speaker 1: a decision to become the tag boat guy about I
Speaker 1: don't know how that has happened. I don't know. Everybody
Speaker 1: has a type hole story. But you you made you did?
Speaker 1: I remember? I remember I crossed over to the dock
Speaker 1: side of the decision. He was like, I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: about taking bone and every because it's different. You know
Speaker 1: what it is. It's you legal, That's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was it was, but it was the original Anori mystique. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was illegal. It's like smoking, like, it's like smoking beats.
Speaker 1: Try to buy a pack of Khalil's Beatis hold on
Speaker 1: the tib did you say beanies? Beaties? The little the
Speaker 1: little battom ship After after not eleven, they banned Khalil's Beatis.
Speaker 1: Let me used to be they had an association with
Speaker 1: like some sort of organization. Yeah, so they banned them ships.
Speaker 1: Remember we used to buy them ships in the hood
Speaker 1: and then one day you couldn't not eleven story? What
Speaker 1: do you google? It's taking let's take one shot taking
Speaker 1: ball cock. No, let's just listen. I'll take another shot.
Speaker 1: Of taking bone after I work tonight because I still
Speaker 1: gotta work. No, no, this is that was like a
Speaker 1: prince's answer. You've been hanging the prince way too much.
Speaker 1: That was a prince answer. You got one shot right there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna join you, not my shot. I don't claim responsibility.
Speaker 1: You did, you did? You picked up? That was a joke.
Speaker 1: That was when you pick up two shots to live
Speaker 1: you committed. That was a visual. That's like you you
Speaker 1: can't put the fried chicken back, like when you're in
Speaker 1: the barbecue and you picked up two pieces of chicken
Speaker 1: at the black barbecue. That's a false equivalence that he got,
Speaker 1: he got way too he I don't even know what
Speaker 1: they were with that prepoly like, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Come on, we're gonna do one more shot. See because
Speaker 1: the chicken you touch the drink is a plastic cup. No,
Speaker 1: I kind of get too smart on us. We can't
Speaker 1: let we can't let you get away with that. We
Speaker 1: can't let you get away with that. If I did
Speaker 1: my finger in it, or I drink it, it's pretty
Speaker 1: much the same when you grab it. Watch, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: join you. I'm gonna join you and I've been sucked
Speaker 1: up all day. You listen. Let me just say something,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us to the chance we had
Speaker 1: care arrests, drink three shots. We just want you to
Speaker 1: have to remembut myself. Oh no, my bad, because your
Speaker 1: your clap was not aggressive at all when you wanted
Speaker 1: to listen. When you want people to clap to I'll
Speaker 1: let people to say, listen, is it. Let's make some
Speaker 1: noise for Tiler trying to get a soft clap out
Speaker 1: of the drink chaps. We don't do that over here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one more shot with you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's Michaelas Actually, then that's great. That ba alright cool?
Speaker 1: You want me to help you out. That's the effect
Speaker 1: of moon shine. Yeah, this is this is this is
Speaker 1: Chinese moon shot. So listen. So how many how many
Speaker 1: listeners y'all got at this point, were approaching three millions,
Speaker 1: were approaching three million. In April we had two point
Speaker 1: two millions. So let's make let's make some noise, right
Speaker 1: we are talking about that one whatever half a million
Speaker 1: a week, you know what I mean? And three million
Speaker 1: people listen to this bullshit. That's why it's bullshit. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, yo, telling five, you're absolutely absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I can't believe this bullshit. Bullshit. Listen, every time we speak,
Speaker 1: we make a podcast every time we speak. And then
Speaker 1: let me tell you something Nas told me ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, like we was around like to me,
Speaker 1: Nas told me the internet was going to happen like
Speaker 1: it was something like we was in something with a
Speaker 1: black mask, please bridge. I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: equivalent to what I was thinking of, but but Na, Na,
Speaker 1: we sat and I actually a portfolio. I actually filmed it.
Speaker 1: It was for what what documentary? And I sat there
Speaker 1: when I filmed him and we just talked about like
Speaker 1: you know, no, no, no no, And he told me,
Speaker 1: he said, someday these people are gonna pay us for
Speaker 1: our conversation. I thought he meant the internet when the
Speaker 1: Internet got got involved in Twitter, I thought he meant that.
Speaker 1: But then years later, now I realized that he was
Speaker 1: telling me I was going to have this podcast at
Speaker 1: each number one and have millions of people listened to
Speaker 1: our bullshit together as a one because you know what
Speaker 1: hip hop, classic stories, what the people love, right, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna with you. No no, no, She pick up
Speaker 1: the type of bone. If you could drink that type
Speaker 1: of bone and drink that Hennessy, I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 1: you the hardest thing in Brooklyn and Nebraska, you know,
Speaker 1: and get more Hennessy and oh know that's water all right.
Speaker 1: If you can finish listen, I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1: Let me drink funk everything else. You can drink this
Speaker 1: this shot of tyke a ball and then finish your Hennessy.
Speaker 1: You're the hardest. There's no Hennessy anywhere. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't finish that first. That's that's water, all right. He's
Speaker 1: getting ready. Alright, cool, cool, all right, Nebraska and Home
Speaker 1: and the Dakotas and Brooklyn and Day County, all right,
Speaker 1: so look and remember take your glasses them. Yeah, Christmas,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I bone get if you gotta take your shot. No,
Speaker 1: it's like there, just stuck me out. Oh what can
Speaker 1: I get it? For? What's my fortune? We just drank
Speaker 1: cat urine ship. I should know jiu jitsu after I
Speaker 1: drink that ship. Man, Now, are you sure you still?
Speaker 1: And for this? I gotta work tonight. You can quit.
Speaker 1: You can quit, or you can finish your hand. I
Speaker 1: want to see if you're a real Brooklyn nigger right now. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm on the water side of day. Yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: out of same plenty of water. But I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: Read Hennessy and Tiger Bone. I don't remember them being
Speaker 1: friends ever. This podcast you usually last like this long. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because you know, like I don't listen to podcast,
Speaker 1: we want you to to. He came in and he
Speaker 1: gave me us against this day. He said, I ain't
Speaker 1: listened to all the way I listen to the store.
Speaker 1: And I said thank you, because maybe he was in
Speaker 1: the game. Because right now we gotta he gotta work tonight.
Speaker 1: Pick up your video. You just shot a video. We
Speaker 1: want to pick that up. Man, Yeah, pick up my video.
Speaker 1: Good girls, good girls. Once again. I was doing the video.
Speaker 1: I had a conference call with him. Shout Alicia Keys
Speaker 1: and Rapsody and bust of rounds. He was on the
Speaker 1: conference call. I went to the I went to the
Speaker 1: White House. Wait, yeah, let's talk about that. I heard
Speaker 1: about you never go in the right house after you
Speaker 1: leave this. Let's hurry up at the White House. I
Speaker 1: heard what Major Keys or he dropped some gems that
Speaker 1: story got out. Yeah. Yeah, the ws A long went off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's make some noise for that. Godamn it. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the most Let me, let me I heard one story.
Speaker 1: Let me just heard one story about the White House. Please,
Speaker 1: everybody be quiet. I heard one story about the White House.
Speaker 1: I heard that. When back Obama got you all in
Speaker 1: the room, he said, some of y'all nigga's tax issues
Speaker 1: ain't right, and y'all might be that, and y'all might
Speaker 1: be arrested when you leave this property. Is that true?
Speaker 1: That's if he said that. Part one is true. Okay,
Speaker 1: part was not. He didn't say you will be arrested. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't say, but he said, proceed. You're in that story.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna my accounting guys right here, man,
Speaker 1: he said, he said, called me Obama said, he said, drone.
Speaker 1: We're talking about criminal justice reform. By the way, Barack
Speaker 1: Obama has released like hundreds of people. Let's makes a
Speaker 1: noise with rock Obamas people. He asked c he has
Speaker 1: also used drones as a preemptive measure, So don't make
Speaker 1: no no notice for that. He doesn't it, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: listen to the job of the president. It is not easy.
Speaker 1: It is to maintain the status quo. But let's stop
Speaker 1: being serious, right right, let's go, let's get back for
Speaker 1: people want to laugh. We got to get serious. But
Speaker 1: but Rick Ross bracelet went off and that was that
Speaker 1: was that was great, and Obama said, Obama's and Rick
Speaker 1: Ross like a true Miami dude and the true Miami
Speaker 1: dude Rick Russ represented Miami. Wait, wait, no, this is
Speaker 1: all let's live. The beeping went off and Obama said,
Speaker 1: what is that? That was that? Obama, he don't know.
Speaker 1: He said, what is that? No one knew I heard it,
Speaker 1: No one knew what that was. And Rick Ross said,
Speaker 1: that's that criminal justice. Let's make some Louis shout out
Speaker 1: the city Obama brothers did to talk about criminal justice reform.
Speaker 1: Rick Ross was like I heard he walked in the
Speaker 1: room and he said a curse and they made everybody relaxed.
Speaker 1: He was like what he said something like now he was?
Speaker 1: He was? He was? He was? He was? He you
Speaker 1: know what he said. You know, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what he said. He said, he said, Tyler quality, I
Speaker 1: love I listen to music. I love listening to music.
Speaker 1: I listening to the White House and he looked at
Speaker 1: Asap Rocky. Right, he said, I love your music too,
Speaker 1: but I can't listen to it in in the house.
Speaker 1: I put my headphones on, like, yeah, we don't want
Speaker 1: another shot. Take a ball, right, We're done with that
Speaker 1: now he could do it. He wants no listen. I
Speaker 1: want to drink some of his Dame Dash good. Let's go,
Speaker 1: just go, Tyler quality. I can't thank you. I can't
Speaker 1: thank you enough. Man. I think we covered all grounds.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to say, Tyler? Is
Speaker 1: there anything you want to say to the people? We
Speaker 1: got about like fourth people listening to us right now.
Speaker 1: People I want to say people, Yeah, don't drink what's
Speaker 1: the drink? Don't eat the yellow snow? Alright right right?
Speaker 1: Because and the gum under the table is not candy.
Speaker 1: The gum under the table is not candy. You're Tyler Crawley.
Speaker 1: You've been a great sport man. We really appreciate you
Speaker 1: because you know why, you so much positive. You're so
Speaker 1: much a hip hop activist. You're our version of Al
Speaker 1: Shopton without the ship. Now that's my nigger. Al Sharpton
Speaker 1: is a good dude, is it really? However, I am
Speaker 1: not no, no, no, I mean like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean by you know what I mean what I
Speaker 1: mean by that, I'm sorry, but not when you say no.
Speaker 1: But what I mean I get it is you you
Speaker 1: the guy, like yeah, when you knew it they called Michael, Malcolm,
Speaker 1: Max with all other people with all respect, that's who
Speaker 1: you are, for respect to them. Yeah, and I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm here the CBS ad coming in a train
Speaker 1: like CBS the train to listen. But I feel like
Speaker 1: you're the guy. I think that's whenever ye y'all sabotaged
Speaker 1: us last week, we understand y'all. Motherfucker Wilson. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me just say this real quickly. Yeah, please, Elliott Wilson,
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of niggas that do not deserve
Speaker 1: interviews before Tyler Coley. I don't know where this is going,
Speaker 1: but I'm with you wherever you want to take when,
Speaker 1: wherever you want to take it, Elliot, I love Elliott.
Speaker 1: Why Elliott put on ra Raid not rap Radar. Gave
Speaker 1: me a lot of love, but rap Radar podcast, I've
Speaker 1: never been shots rap radar. They give me a lot
Speaker 1: of but all the way the little talks he'd be having,
Speaker 1: but I'm only saying this because I have a new
Speaker 1: album coming out, right. But he never put your on
Speaker 1: rap Radar podcast that the little Talks. He'd be having
Speaker 1: a little sund millions high five. But let's be clear,
Speaker 1: we didn't shout because you had a new album. Let's
Speaker 1: you are friends. Let's let me let me shout out.
Speaker 1: Kay Valentine, Um from Chicago were dropping her album voted media.
Speaker 1: Nico is. Nico is from Orlando, Florida. He was very excited,
Speaker 1: he said, he said, what you're doing, drink Champs. Nico
Speaker 1: hits me up. Nico was very excited. Now I was
Speaker 1: really cool. I was already excited to do drink Champs,
Speaker 1: but Nico made me more excited. Elliot Wilson, this is
Speaker 1: my nigga. You know what I'm saying, Like, listen, but
Speaker 1: he didn't want to accept. You know, let's keep it real.
Speaker 1: Let's just keep it real. You're saying he didn't want
Speaker 1: to accept. No, this is what I'm saying. I'm up
Speaker 1: again the Alligators as we are. We are capitalized with
Speaker 1: funk up. Elliott Wilson. Everybody you're telling you listen any
Speaker 1: times and be out and they don't answer you you
Speaker 1: know my phone still were wrapping. Yeah, we're raping. We're
Speaker 1: inside the NBA, were inside. Just DJ j I never
Speaker 1: never don't know what I'm saying. We wrapping. DJ can say, DJ,
Speaker 1: I gotta listen rocket for you. I mean, you're the
Speaker 1: rap problem, DJ Jeff will Smith. There we go shout
Speaker 1: out to be and el A Wilson. They important participants
Speaker 1: CONTU because up we always. I'm just saying that because
Speaker 1: I have a new album coming out and if I
Speaker 1: do interview on them, I get to promote my whatever.
Speaker 1: But but they didn't ask you to come on first,
Speaker 1: because he wants to interview people who have trends, but
Speaker 1: he don't understand that I'm making a trends telling. I'm
Speaker 1: wait bigger than you've been. We've been transcending ship forever.
Speaker 1: Niggad We had an apartment in South Africa. Nigga like
Speaker 1: my nigga like like this is the thing is like
Speaker 1: I interviewed legends. I interview people who know they used
Speaker 1: that word relevant. We don't need, we don't overhead, we
Speaker 1: make it. We use that word. Yeah, when you're not
Speaker 1: depending on the relevancy all that that dumb ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do that. Don't just representative moment, priss. But
Speaker 1: YO was just whipping the names. Yeah, I was trying
Speaker 1: to win the name name Tyler. Listen, let me thank
Speaker 1: you man for coming through me in the NFL. You
Speaker 1: know we were tarded people. We're both in here together
Speaker 1: and we really want to thank you for coming here
Speaker 1: being a great sport. And you are drunk, drunk, and
Speaker 1: I came here in the tank top. This is the
Speaker 1: first time in my You like m a threst. You
Speaker 1: got mad tattoos, You're like a thrust. You don't want
Speaker 1: the Spanish games down where He's done with eighteen street games?
Speaker 1: What the I got locked out of my hotel? What
Speaker 1: the F? I just wi? I got a text while
Speaker 1: I was on your shotop ridding them Airbnbs come back
Speaker 1: to Stars. I'm back to Star. I got locked out,
Speaker 1: but now I got my clothes back. This makes some noise.
Speaker 1: Fam games close back. I'm gonna stop smoking this too.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. Is this the plastic greed? I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm done. You know you don't remember why I handed
Speaker 1: the carrass Harro said stop car, no, no, No, Carross
Speaker 1: would have smoked up. No, he wanted to joint. Remember
Speaker 1: Carross wanted to join Tyler Quality. Thank you for hanging
Speaker 1: out with us, man. We really appreciate that that bottle
Speaker 1: of Hennessey could go with you. I'm taking it. You're
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