WEBVTT - Episode 12 w/ Talib Kweli 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:09.560 Y'all is radio. He's a legendary Queen's rapper, is your boy, 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.959 and he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up is 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.560 d J E f N? Together they drink it up 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.280 with some of the biggest players in music and sports, 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.479 you know, I mean the most professional, unprofessional podcast. This 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.040 is Drinks chap Radar where every day is New Year's Eve. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:30.800 That's right, would it could be, hopefully what it should be. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.239 Before we even continue, I want to say that right 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.000 now we an eight and nine clothing store and I'm 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.960 dripped to death with eight and nine from the head 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.640 to the bottom of my feet. And right now this 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.519 is your boy in r E Hey, Hank Sangria, hope 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.880 you it's via What What Up Is d J E 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:54.360 f N? And it's a drink Chess podcast? And right now, 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:01.840 right now, we have a legendary Brooklyn MC. He was 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.880 a part of a legendary group that we only got 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.400 one album groups. He was disappointed. We're gonna get into that. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.800 He's hip hop's first activists, that gangsters in the hip 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:19.440 hop Clane and the backpackers in hip hop claim. He 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.440 stepped up for us in Ferguson when nobody else was. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.119 He told that guy that was in seeing it, we're 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.440 gonna get to that later, that you're reporting on black 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.039 culture in a disrespectful way. And he told it to 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:39.759 him intelligently and live to this day, people still don't 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:46.040 respect this guy's Don Lemons news reporting skills. Since that day, 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.080 it's been different from Mr. Le said, I had this 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.560 guy number. The first thing I wanted to do was 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.160 text him. Is he thank you? But he's a hip 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.680 hop activist. He's one of the realest people. He's He's 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:03.080 a hip hop pure lyricist, pure lyricists. He's worked with 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.440 the likes of Kanye West, jay Z, Freeway, you name him. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.680 He's been in the studio or had something to do 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.640 with them being great. Right now, we have Toddler quality 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:17.200 in the building. Make so fucking oh man, oh Man, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:23.760 the leg man, the legend. You gonna make a black 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.359 man man. Listen. By the way, let me just say something. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.520 I've seen you in l A and I got a 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.399 chance to tell you how much I appreciated the statement, 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:40.440 the acts, and the courageousness that you portrayed during the 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.559 Ferguson and you're going out there. First off, just representing 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.799 for us. And then second off, when people were reporting 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.200 four stories, you immediately corrected this guy and he did 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.600 an intelligent way. You could have been like, tell our 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.760 motherfucker you know what I'm saying, that's how I feel 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.279 about donal Lemon. But you didn't. You did it respectful? 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.160 How How did how did that translate? We get the 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.400 full story? Yeah, and we don't need to pull it 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:12.919 out politically answer nobody to followers. Yeah, but first of all, 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.440 before I get into that, you know what I'm saying, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.120 First of all, shout out to the family and Michael 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.320 Brown and Michael Brown's mom and Michael Brown Senior, and 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.280 you know what I'm saying, like, because you know, one 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.320 of the things that was lost in the conversation with 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.800 me and Don Lemon was the fact that I was 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.919 out there to represent for Michael Brown exactly. And one 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.640 thing that I you know, I tried to do not 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.160 have no regrets in life, but that we had to 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.360 actually to drink. Okay, well known sound little too. So 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.560 that is your bottom. That is your bottom, you know, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.400 hens and sponsored some of the worst moments in my life. Yeah, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.760 sponsing some of the worst moments of life. Yeah. So 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.200 go ahead, you and ferguson. Um. Yeah, so I went 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.400 down there. You know, I'll be on you did not 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.600 get paid to be in, Fergus No, no, don Lemon 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.680 got paid to be in. That's right, go ahead continue. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.040 I was on t be on Twitter a lot, and 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.880 you'd be arguing on fools, I do. I think you know? 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.240 Jay Z said if you argue with foods from a distance, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.720 they can't tell who's who. Yeah, who's the wise man? 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.640 But I tell him come a little closer, and it's 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:20.360 very apparent everything come a little closer. Just if you 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.920 come a little closer, you can see I's saying what 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.720 I'm doing. But you know what I'm saying. Like, Um, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.640 I was talking on Twitter to people who was retweeting 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.640 and people a lot of times people on social network 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.640 think that they activist because they retweet something, because they 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.440 post something nice and positive on Facebook. Um, and that's 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.680 that's all good. But unless you have bodies on the ground, 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.039 unless the flesh is involved, there's nothing really really happening. 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.800 So I found myself being hypocritical because I'm talking about 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:52.000 this on on Twitter. Right, my man, um Ja Cole 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.760 went down there. You know what I'm saying like these 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.520 are artist I think maybe Jeez Young Jeez went down 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.880 there before me. So I've seen other artists go down 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.560 up that I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.599 could go there, and I'm here on Twitter talking about it. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.480 Let me go down there. I'm an artist, I'm my 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.640 own boss. I don't have a schedule I have to 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.120 adhere to. I could go down there. So I went 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.600 down there, and I was happy to see my man 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.200 Philip Agnews a lot who's here in Miami, you know 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.479 what I'm saying. From Dream Defenders. He was down there. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:23.880 I've seen I've seen uh Patrese from Black Lives Matter 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.880 down there. I see people that are already funk with 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.920 down there, So I felt like I was in the 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.839 right place. I met my man test Po artists from St. Louis, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.040 very talent to them. See he's on my last album 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.960 Knife wonder Um, which are you on? He's on the Sore. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.840 My man Teft Poe, and my man Tory Russell Um. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.559 They was down there. They was on the front lines. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.240 And my first night down there, To be honest with you, 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.720 I kind of went down there on something like I'm 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.520 just gonna show my face. Okay, I'm gonna drink. I see, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:53.560 I got to drink. I'm sorry. I was gonna show 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.080 my face to be real with you, you know what 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.160 I'm saying, Like, I wasn't planning on getting in, no 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.720 type of action or not. You just wanted to be 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.160 I'm just swaying show solidarity. You got maced or something 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.000 like that. Yeah, it was no. I didn't get made, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.320 but they sprayed tear gas in the air. I was 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.400 infected me a little bit. I had to peep the 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.480 cops and uh, you know, agitated the people, you know 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.400 what I'm saying, and they chased us down. I was 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.600 down there with Rosa Clemente, who's a friend of mine. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.359 Jessica care More was a poet. Um cops and some 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.720 young people. They chased us down to be related because 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.960 that's my cousin. She's not, but she is Puerto Rican cousin. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:35.240 She is. She is Puerto Rican. Part of how many 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.120 days into the protest is this when you get there? 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.040 This is as soon as I got there. But I'm 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.200 saying how many days had the protests? Okay, they've been 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.600 going going on about a week before, maybe maybe two 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.680 weeks before. I got down there, and you know, the 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.640 people on the front line, I've seen that they needed 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.799 a voice that I've seen that they needed representation. Shout 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.000 out to my man Benzineo. I've seen him down there, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.320 you know what I'm saying. Um, there's a couple of 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.000 other artists I can't think of right now, but Teest 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.120 Paul is rolling with Test Poe in them. And Um, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.320 I was down there for about a week. I got 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:03.960 asked to do a lot of press. I turned a 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.479 lot of it down. I did Democracy Now, Amy Goodman. Um, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.240 I did a Joy and Reed show. But I was 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.080 turning a lot of the press down because I wasn't 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.240 down there as a rapper. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.240 with the people. Yes, I got asked to do CNN. UM. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.320 I had never met Don Lemon. Um. I went down 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.320 there to do the thing with him. And this is 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.280 the night before he said I smell weed, or this 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.440 is about a few months before that. Oh he said 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.360 he smelled when I was a few months before he 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.600 smelled the weed. Um. You know, Don Lemon is somebody 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.920 that you know, even to this day, I clowned to 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.160 make fun of him. I had a little altercation with 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.840 him on the air, but I have respect for him 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.800 as as a human being. You know, a gay man, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:47.640 black man on CNN. Yeah, he came out and Anderson 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.280 you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.760 they did they, Um, I went, I went down there. 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.960 I was very excited to do the interview with Dominant, 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.640 and I was surprised at the way that he conducted 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.880 the interview. And I think my shocking, my surprise. Me 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.800 being used to doing interviews in a certain way as 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.680 an artist was different from me doing interviews as I 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.120 don't think Don Lemon understood my, my, my, who I was, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.080 what I was doing down there. I was just somebody 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.640 who was there. He had no frame of reference. No, 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.560 he didn't know you beforehand. Nah, we never met him. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.600 Might have been from St. Louis, Yeah, I could have 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.800 been some rappers for St. Louis. No disrespect to rap 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.960 rappers from St. Louis, because you know, those are the 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.960 voices like my man teft Pope. And I'm saying, like 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.360 people who was rappers from there, they know what was 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.760 up for real, Like really they should have interviewed teft Poe. Really, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.440 you know, I'm saying they were walking by now. They 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:39.480 called meers. CNN called me a lot. They called me 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.319 a lot. The real story is, they called me a lot. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.640 They called me like like ten times like and I 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.880 said no, no, no, no no. And they said Anderson 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.840 Cooper was going to do the story. And you know, 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.800 I have a lot of respect for Anderson Cooper, you 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.240 know what I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I'm 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.000 gonna do it. When I got down there, they had 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.320 Don Lemon. I didn't you know. I was like, okay, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.320 Don Lemon, cool? Was you all of Don leman problems? Yeah? 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.360 I didn't have no I didn't have no opinion to him. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.640 I was aware him. I knew he was on CNN. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.640 You know what I'm saying. I didn't. I wasn't a fan. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.360 I wasn't not a fan. I didn't know who. I 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.240 just knew he was famous, you know, black dude on CNN. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.080 So I did an interview with him, and um, you know, 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:20.120 I just didn't like the way that, you know, I 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.080 felt like, you know, Don Lemon is on CNN on 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.400 TV a lot. I feel like, if you called me 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.199 to interview me, you want to hear what I gotta say. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.319 As soon as I started speaking. He started speaking, you 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.000 know what I'm saying, and my gut instinct kicked in, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.800 you know what I'm saying. But like I said, with 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.440 the started this, you know what I'm saying, Like I 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.280 wish I would have talked more about Michael Brown instead 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.800 of getting into it. Limit No, but you know what 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.520 I want to tell you that it was. It was. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.240 It was necessary for the time because, um, you being 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.440 on the ground, you probably didn't see all of the 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.760 news footage. Me being on the road at the time, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.240 I did see all the news footage, and he just 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.120 wasn't it was. It was, you know, Um well, all 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.480 due respect to him, because I've never met Donal, you 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.880 know what I'm saying of me judging him is absolutely 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.679 pre prejudiced because I've never met a guy right, never 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.679 been in front of him. But from what I see, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.080 he's what represents the Uncle Tom he's been represents like 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.880 the people who don't understand the struggle, the people who 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.679 don't understand that Mike Brown was innocently killed, the people 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.760 don't understand the trade of on mines that he was. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.559 He was the epitome of the black guy who doesn't 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.600 understand our struggle. So although your your your plot, put 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:33.000 him in your your confrontation with him, uh might have 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.720 took away from what Mike Brown. It also shed light 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.120 on the situation that listen, brother, if you if you're 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.960 one of us, you gotta be one of us. And 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.960 if you're not, then you're just not. I think he 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.079 does because I think as a black gay dude, he 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.240 understands that. I didn't know he was gay. So yeah, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.160 I think he understands it. I think he goes through it. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:50.760 You know what I'm saying that somebody who works in 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.439 the mainstream media, right, I think he understands it. But 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.559 you know, people who work for a living, and we 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.160 don't have jobs, and a lot of us compromised our 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.679 gut feelings and our more rules and compromise who we 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.120 are as people. For that check, Don Lemon is there 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.600 to represent CNN CNN as a corporate interest. He's not 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.280 there like that. He represents CNN. Let's make some noise 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:19.880 for then, not not CNN. Like you know, the officials, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:30.040 CNN turns kind of hood to gangster ship. The other 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:31.960 bad guys. We can't put that there. Come on, the 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.640 other bad guys, come on. But I think that he represents. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.360 He was doing his job. The moment I spoke out 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.920 against mainstream media, I didn't even say CNN. He took 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.400 offense to me saying mainstream media is a problem. He 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.480 looked at CNN as being a part of mainstream media. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.520 He took offense to me dissing his team. That's what 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.600 it was. And the conversation got missing because he was like, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.880 wait a second, seeing that is fair. I feel like 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.559 I'm fair. I feel like I'm worked for seeing that. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.520 I'm fair. You know what I'm saying. And it's like, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.200 you know, he represents the mainstream The mainstream media job 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.720 is to enable the status quo, and it convinces that 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.360 the status quo is okay, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.360 Like Seeing, then, the only reason Seeing was down there 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.760 was in the hopes that there would be a riot. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.560 The only reason the MSNBC, even the yeah, even even 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.880 the left wing I'm not talking about Fox News and 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.440 all the bullshit, but even the left wing, supposedly on 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.160 our side, media is down there because they hope that 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.560 some violence will. If there wasn't a dread of violence, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.520 they wouldn't be down there. So then they tell you 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.160 we shouldn't write. They tell you we shouldn't burn down 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.000 the CBS, and I agree with that. You know what 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.600 I'm saying. I don't think violence solve anyone, CBS or CBS. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:53.440 CBS understandship CBS. I think that you know they don 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.880 Lemon was doing his job very well. I like you 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.800 for being political. He was not. That's not even that's 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.360 not even politics money, that's just real ship like like 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.000 he was doing the job. Now, you and me as artists. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.320 The reason you could call yourself Noria, the reason you 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.200 could do a podcast, say whatever the funk you want 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.600 because you are artist. You have no boss talking about it, 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.120 You have no boy. Keep going, keep going. You see 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.880 what you're going. You see what Laura Hill don't show 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.880 up to a show. Everybody get mad. Guess what you 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.520 could be mad, But guess what, So the funk what 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:36.199 she don't work for you? She could She could show 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.040 up when she feels like showing up and guess she 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.040 don't feel like it. She don't have to show up. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.800 Something personal happen in her life. She could be like 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.720 I'm chilling today. She hasn't arranged it with the venue owner, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.960 the promoter, and you have you have. You don't know it. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.079 You're not privy to that. So the only person she 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.240 might owe something to is somebody that you're not even 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.719 privy too. As artists, we have no boss, and a 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.719 lot of people don't understand that, you know what I'm saying, 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.960 because a lot of people caught up in the debt system, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.400 in the slavery system, and they think they have bosses 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.640 that people that have to report to. That's not something 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.040 that I'm judging. You can't be judgmental. People got to 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.040 do to survive, you know what I'm saying. You can't 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.480 judge that. But you've got to understand the difference between 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.800 somebody you know and and it's the same thing as 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.680 a gangster. Like a gangster has no boss. Like most death, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.240 he's an r e for real, He's going to run, right? 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:30.480 Is that correct? Hold on what happened? He just said, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.760 Fuck America. You know, I think y'all seen babe. You 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.520 want to visit him? I went to visit in Africa 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.880 and South let's just make some noise for the nigga 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:44.000 going back home. That just makes I ain't got the heart. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.400 They ain't got a w in Africa, right, I can't 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:52.760 they got they got a home away of Airbnb. I'm 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.440 not a fan of Nbnb yet now I'm not matter. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.920 I don't found with Airbnb. But listen, y'all seen Bay 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.080 he decided it a long time ago. If you pay 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.640 attention to his moves, that he wasn't funking with America 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.480 a long time. That's hard, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.720 And um, he traveled the world. You know he's an 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.600 internationally no artist. He is settled in South Africa. He 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.720 do got some leaders. He had an international passport, a 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.000 world World World World pass What then does that mean? 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.840 The world passport is so you know, he has a 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.040 website with my man Ferrari Shepherd shout out to my man. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.960 I got a website. I don't got a worldwide. They 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.320 got a website called a country called Earth. And the 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.280 whole concept behind it is, you know, I'm a citizen 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.280 of the world. Like these borders. Do you know what 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.480 we all this is a room for the immigrants. Room. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:48.200 We've done good for some immigrants. These borders are set 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.440 up by colonists. These borders set up by warring European 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.960 factions that are that are interested in in enabling white 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.800 supremacy and keeping it going. You know what I'm saying, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.120 like keeping people was murdered, they're raped and tortured for 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.680 them to create these lines and these divisions between people. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.360 I'm saying, no human being is illegal. You know what 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.960 I'm saying. If you get drunk and you drive and 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:14.440 you killing motherfuck, are you in illegal driving? No, you're not. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.040 So no human being is illegal. That's that. That's a 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.480 that's a misnomer. No human being is an alien. No 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.120 human being is illegal, and that makes a noise for 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:27.680 the people trying to cross the borders. Quality were not 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.720 damnit shut or it is bombed. And so y'all seen 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.240 ban fera shepherd. They have this concept of just global 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.920 global citizens, citizensry and no human being is illegal and 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.560 country called Earth. We are all citizens in the world. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.360 So he can he still like go to like um countries. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.200 That's cool with Yeah, the World Passport is recognized as 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.760 certain countries. But we still don't know how did he 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:56.720 get that word. You could from what somebody to get 0:16:54.080 --> 0:17:00.880 that fingerprintsingerprints world. From what I understand, the World Passport, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.960 you could get it if you do do the research 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.280 and you just anybody could get it. But it's not 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:10.160 recognized everywhere, and it's not recognized in every situation they 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.640 might recognize it. I think the situation with South Africa 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.159 is they recognized it sometimes and they don't record. They 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.720 pick and choose. So I think the situation was he 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.520 was trying to travel in this particular time they didn't 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.800 recognize the World passport. So he has a little legal issue. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.960 He got solved. But you know, he's been in South 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.600 Africa and Tunisia and Morocco and he's just been a 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.640 citizen of the world. And then how did your has 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.320 literally meet? Because the Black Star thing was yeah, so 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.720 big and we only got one album. Correct, shoutut to 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.040 my man Rubik's. When I was a young we lad 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.440 back in the salad days of my career, Okay, hold 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.400 on lad in salad. Never heard this term. That's just Irish. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.320 That's Irish. I'm a we lad salad days. If I'm 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.600 a fan of the Coen Brothers films. He watched Raised 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.680 in Arizona, Nicholas Cage. He talks about him in Holly Hunter, 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.200 I think his name and the actress and he's talking 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.480 about the early days of their relationships, and he said, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.400 that's that's the salad days, the days before the appetizer 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:08.000 and the meal on entree the salad days. So in 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.280 my salad days, you know what I'm saying. I used 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.000 to hang out and Watchington Square Park. Um. I used 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.720 to hang out with incredible mcs like Supernatural. That's where 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.600 half Bake came from. Dave Dave Chappelle was in the park. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.920 Dave Chappelle was in the park around this time, watching 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:26.520 The Square Park eight off. The Assassin was in the 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:31.920 Hip Pop War. Jean Gray was in the park. Most 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.639 Deaf was in the park. But Most Deaf was also 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.720 a TV star. He had a show with with Nel Carter. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:39.679 I forget the name of the show, but it was 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.760 he was nel Carter him and had a show right 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.400 then he had a show with Malcolm Jamal Warner had 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.399 a TV show. When he left the Cosby Show to 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.520 Teacher Harlem, he had a class the Seventh Creators. Most 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.800 Death was one of the Seventh Creators. Yeah. Then in 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.119 the Cosby Mysteries, the first Drake and this is in 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:01.680 Brooklyn Cosby. I was in Brooke Ya, Ni's got mad ship. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:07.679 Let's make some noise in Brooklyn. Being rich, Yeah, he 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.480 was what's the rhymes? Big and jay Z all went 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.400 to a school together, Brooklyn. Hold on, hold on, hold 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.600 on now, alright, alright, let me qualify that. Let me 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.480 qualify that the seven eight team got the best in 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.680 seven eight. Yeah, seven, he said, seven eighteen. That was 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.040 too smart for me. I had to think the same day, 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:34.200 seven seven one. You gotta shop got star faces, bes 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.679 and uns. Well, we've got jay Z's and nas and 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:44.560 big different seven eight unities like black and brown right here, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.520 right here, right here, right here. But yeah, most Deaf 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.800 was doing this thing on the acting. He had a 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:54.160 Dion Santa's American Express commercial. I knew he was broke. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.119 It was an American expression. We was broke. We was 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.480 we being the park. We would hop the train. I 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.280 used to live a Flatbush, hop the train and go 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.400 to the Washington Washington Square Park. The freestyle. Most Deaf 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.680 was the only niggable money. He would take everybody to 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:13.040 McDonald's on West Fourth. I got that McDonald's. I'm sure 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:19.840 you continue from the basketball story. When I was fifteen 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.280 years old. All right, I'm just real story right now. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.600 At my at the house I rented, I'm shooting a video. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.840 My man nico Is and they're shooting a video. Let's 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:36.280 make a noise. Listen. Most people rent a hotel. He's experienced. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.959 We rented yeah house. It is cheaper than the hotel. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.879 You know, I'm frugal. We don't know that word. Can 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.560 you explain frugush It's cheap. It's a fancy word for 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:52.520 cheap pocket. I am now using that word is at 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:56.960 this house right now. It's still potholes in my law right. 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:05.399 Let's make all my New York nick is gon Remember this. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.920 I used to shop at Renaissance. I don't know what's 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.880 cool now, but it used to be on on Houston 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.280 and Broadway, and they used to have the Doc Martin 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.040 boots and the Jabo jeans I used for Jabow jeans. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.840 I read it Deposta news. This is what day I 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.040 saw the hot I don't know if you're gonna say 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.000 this is a joint? Is it's blood the hottest ship? 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.800 Hold on, let me make sure it's live. How about 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.600 the smoking. I smoke to Blood with too short. I 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.120 got Careless drunk, and now I got Tyler quietly smoking. 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:40.520 Lists got news that is not news, I know, but 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.520 you know why Toddler. Let me just This is one 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.280 of the main reasons why I wanted you on the 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:49.119 podcast is because you do so much great in the 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:53.879 community that sometimes, like you know, our preachers are are 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.280 our bartenders. When I say boy bartenders, I mean like, 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.040 you know, to pull up guys in the hood in 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.879 New York. Sometimes they seem holy of and down and 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.679 sometimes when you just need to show them that they're human. 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:05.880 And when you show them that they're human, it's more 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.680 people that can say, you know what, I'm a following. Yeah, 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.879 I'm gonna follow his league because he's also human. Like 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:14.560 it's crazy because I'm you know, I've been in this 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.080 business for a long time. I've known for a certain 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:17.959 type of record, but you know, ever since I've been 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.040 a business, know what I'm saying, Like you remember the 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.040 time he's in Larios. Yes, somebody came up to you 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:29.199 and ask you for you're using Larry like Gloria and 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.200 I we're drinking together, Like I'm like, Wow, the world 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.639 need to know tyl Live can have fun, you know 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.399 what I'm saying. Because he makes so serious rackings. You know, 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.640 he's a political guy. It's great. That part is awesome. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.240 That's what I represent. The Charis was my favorite rappers, 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.160 so you understand that I respect all that, but I'm 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.320 seeing him have a great time. So because a person 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:50.959 comes up to him and says, to live, I want 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:52.880 to do a joint with you, so I'm like, he's 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.639 like yeah, and he's like, your nory, I want to 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:56.800 do a drink, I said. Tylerve Is, my new manager, 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.399 looked at me and was like fucked up. But he 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.560 went along with it, and you went right along. Let's 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:11.440 make some noise for going along with my found managing Norri. Now, yeah, 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.080 I definitely didn't want to do a song with the dude, 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:14.760 so I seen him right there, so I live. But 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:18.240 people need to I think that that's that's one of 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.959 the greatest things is that when you know you like 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.560 like when people say, I don't know, this is fucked up, 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.280 But when people say Martin was fucking bit just on 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:30.119 the side, it's like everybody like, damn, that's funked up. 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.840 But it's like, nah, he's like human, like he was 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.400 fucking he was fighting every day for human rights. If 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.080 he wanted to get a butt a nut on the side, 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.680 that they gonna laugh, man, make some noise for Martin. 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:51.960 He man Mason noise for Martin on the side. Come on, Martin. 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.440 Unnamed rapper told me this, and I'm not gonna blow 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.840 up his spot. This unnamed rapper told me this on 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.959 his first tour. He said, hey, man, all the prophets 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.600 that host because you know why, it shows that you're human. 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.359 The thing about preachers, the thing about the church, it 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.200 doesn't work no more is because you see these people 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:10.719 and they got the gay, the shoes on, and they 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.960 got the they look so good and and they Charlottean 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:18.960 stuff and they show you no mistakes. So they show 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.040 you no mistakes, and why would somebody follow you, because 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.040 it's like, damn, I never gonna be like you. I 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.200 have flaws. You understand what I'm saying. Like, so that's 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.080 why the when you when when you learn the story 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.680 about his flaws, when you learn about Malcolm flaws, when 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.000 you learn about Jesus flaws. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.040 When you when you read the books that are outside 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.159 of the Bible, outside of the King James version of 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.720 the Bible. When Jesus went to travel and you know, 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.679 to India, Oh yeah, I'm saying he gained knowledge from 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.800 all over the world. Supposedly. You know, I'm saying like 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.800 it had and had flaws. It was, it wasn't man, 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.200 but that you know that, that's what That's what makes 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:57.240 people able to relate. But Black stars such a legendary. 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.919 But before you go on to black because I was 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.800 are talking about Postinus Passengers. I went into the Renaissance, 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.400 I said, past my favorite day, I saw my favorite ship. 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.200 I rapped. Um, what do I do? He said, go 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.360 to Rush Artists Management around the corner on Elizabeth Street, right, 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.320 So I went around that. I went around the corner. 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.960 I go on the lobby. Tragedies there, Yes he was. 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:22.960 But first Search first, because you know, Search walked and 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.640 I met Search. I just I'm fifteen years old. I'm 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.760 at Search. This is when gas Face was. It was 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:34.520 like Tragedy walks in. I got a picture in my 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.399 house right now. Tragedy had the wild dreads on the 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.000 top of the fade on the side, he had the 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.280 little Malcolm ex spectacles, and he had like a raincoat on. 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.479 And this is Maaket. Tragedy sat there and talked to 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.600 me for two hours. You know what I'm saying, like 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.679 he was the first. This is a real story that 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.000 you're hearing on drink Champs. Tragedy was the first rapper 0:25:56.400 --> 0:26:03.359 that showed me love. Tragedy was the first famous. He 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:10.040 was the first first, that's right. But you don't know 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.320 me from from He just started giving me advice on 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.159 the industry for me and all that. We sat with 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:19.120 Elizabeth in Houston for two hours watching the people walk by. 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.600 I don't even know why he had the time. Not 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.760 Sometimes you know who the next person is. Sometimes it's 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.680 just energy, you know what I'm saying, Just a look 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.240 at that? Look at that? So you're hot tag? Yeah 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.000 no, no no, let's get back first the last two yet 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:37.320 black Star because you know why you know, um uh 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:41.679 black Star such a legendary thing that you guys did, like, um, 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.760 this is the first time in history we were presented 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.480 a group first and then you guys did solo ship 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.280 and y'all just never got back. Yeah it's not accurate, Yes, 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.600 yeah it is. It is. You know, black Star me 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.879 and most Death with solo artists, and we we had 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.119 styles that complimented to each each other. We're fans of 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:03.359 each other. Um, we talked casually about doing a group. 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:08.199 Were both signed to Ruckus. Jared and Brian. You know, 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.760 they sort of vision and they was like, Okay, let's 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.640 do a black Star. At the same time, most Death 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.120 was like, let's do this black star situation rockt sort 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:19.000 at the same time. So it converged, and he was 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.399 working on a TV show. He was working in the 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.119 movie I Forget Which movies forever. He was walking on 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:29.520 the movie after time he was saying, this is when 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.600 I knew I can't act for Ship. Listen, let me 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:34.159 just tell you something. This is when I knew I 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.679 can't act for Ship. I've seen that nigger play a 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:41.359 doctor and I believed him. And then I'm gonna tell 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:42.920 you when I knew most was done when I seen 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.520 him when I watched Monster's Ball, Master's Ball and this 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.800 is my nigga and I'm spending every day with and 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.760 I watched for thirty minutes and I said, that's most 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.600 st Yeah, That's how I knew I can't. What do 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.800 you think that the TV played Bury in the in 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.679 the Cadillac Records movie, You ever saying what Beyonce? And 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.399 he was wearing his hair and talking and acting like 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.800 a dressing like Chuck Berry around us, But he didn't 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.920 tell us that he was doing a movie, so I 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.040 thought he didn't. He was just losing his mind. What 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:19.560 I'm saying, like he was a cactus trading his hair. 0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.400 He had the outfits, he was talking and that. When 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.639 I saw the movie, I said, Okay, did he go 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.000 to acting school? No, he just a dude from bed 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.760 Star who got who got talent? You know, shout out 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.240 to Umi and Abbi. They saw enough to make sure 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.720 that he had the opportunities and present him with the opportunities. 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.360 So so, but when you guys did the Black Star album, 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.560 did you did you? Did you? Did you understand how 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.200 big like the culture was gonna gravitate towards that or 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.440 I think we just a moment had a lot to 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.480 do with Vinyl. Brokers was putting out Vinyl and the 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.800 dj the DJs were craving Vinyl. Let me just tell 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:58.600 the people, okay, people, Vinyl is the record. It's a 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.640 record you put it on. It's fools around, It's not 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.600 a stream, you know. Uh, real DJs used to cut 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.360 it back, bring it back. Your mom's got it in 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.480 your house. Your mom's got it in your house somewhere. 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:17.440 Your mother has any I'm sorry, alright, alright, Rakers was 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.200 putting out vinyl for people, for hip hop fans that 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.600 was starved for vinyl, and that's part of the Rooker's 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.280 business plan. That's how they blew up because a lot 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.160 of the DJs, we're pushing back against the move away 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.480 for vinyl. You had big companies like Bad Boy that 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.320 was putting out great quality pop mainstream hip hop, but 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.880 they wasn't serving the DJs with the vinyl. They was 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.560 trying to move away from it. You go to Tower 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.000 Records or whatever. Back in days you couldn't buy vinyl. 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.520 Rockets would put out BAM's Deck, Sermenteli Company Flow, most 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.560 deaf probably vinyl. You know what I'm saying that people 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.800 was the DJs would appreciate that Rukers was focused on 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.440 the DJ and they focused on underground hip hop and 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.640 focus on a certain sounds. So when they put out 0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.480 The Black Star. I remember the Stress magazine. My man 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.360 Clive down and you got to cover Stress. But it 0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.840 was a graffiti writers that had that magazine and Broucs 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.600 did a collaboration with Stressed with Stress when they did 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.240 the vinyl on the cover. The vinyl for Definition was 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.240 on the cover of Stress attached to the magazine they 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.080 sent a copy to Funk Master to Flex. He loved it. 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.400 As a DJ. You know what I'm saying, Like, I 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.280 started my career working for Jessica rosen rose Ball, Yeah Funk. 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:38.080 I used to live in Flappers down the street. When 0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.880 when CNN first Drop, When Nori with component Ariga first Drop, 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.560 I was working for Dress, Jessica rosenback John Foorte. John 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.840 is my best friend. At the time, Jessica was managing 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.200 John Forte. I was fourteen fifteen. Jessica Rosenbaum is a 0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.440 party promoter in New York. She used to manage Master Flex. 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:56.880 But let me tell you, let me break it down. 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.920 She managed Master Flex before there was a Hunt on 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.680 the seven, there was a Hot Night said, but before 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.600 Hot Night was a hip hop station, it was a 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.760 freestyle station. They used to play STEVB records like you 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.040 Gotta the Leader. Something that side I mean I used 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:11.680 to do that club was that, let's keep it going 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.080 with base, home Base. I went to that home base, 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.719 the boom spot, the tunnel, this pre tunnel. When Jessica 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.640 got the tunnel, that was a cool Peter Gash. She 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.360 started worker Peter Gation. We're doing Limelight Tunnel I was 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.120 to fly it. You gotta tell him, We gotta tell 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.000 him with Lime Night because this is church. It was 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.720 a church, and the church was literally as a church 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:39.080 church and it closed down. They have a documentary. I 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.520 don't know if there's a movie called Party Monster and 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:47.120 the Starting Start that's about this whole situation. I definitely 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.000 went to home Base. I didn't go there. Home base 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.520 was home base was. The home base was with Jessica's 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.280 hip hop ship. That's a house of paying there and 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.120 the ghetto girls. All right, So I used to know 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.200 so when you when you when you when you went 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.280 to that club, if you went to like like say 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.560 where else, Dominoes would have a record ghetto jam out. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.520 I would post up the posters for Dominoes coming to town. 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.840 And I'm saying like that. I worked for Jessica like enough, 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.240 it was Flip Squad. It was funk Matter, flex Enough, 0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:19.880 mad Way recipes by saying um d J Buddhaican did 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.800 the reggae you know what I'm saying, and and Bismarck 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.520 he was down for a second when he first started 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.360 his DJ ship. He was down with Flip Squad. I 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.200 used to hand out the flyers she managed John Forte 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.360 Matter Flex. First record was with Non Double Lemons Man 0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:36.560 from the Bronx or Nervous. The B side was a 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:41.360 record called the Boom Spot. Yeah, six Million Ways to Die, 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.960 the B side Nervous. The B side is John Forte. 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.880 Hold on for all these new guys listening, we all 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:54.120 get in getting real hip hope. So if you listen, 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.120 what was that I'm doing record? He just said, Nervous. 0:32:58.440 --> 0:32:59.960 I used to put out the back that was John 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.880 black More down. Oh man, this is real hip hop 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.680 right now, get yours to get your googles continue. So 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.840 that that's my start in the business was with John Forte, 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.480 Master Flex and Jessica Rosi down because she was working 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.040 with Puff at the time. He was her partner at 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.720 the time. You know when when Flex you standard parties 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.680 at the Palladium. People up on Friday nights the Palladium. 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.360 Matter of fact, I've seen I've seen ice Que perform 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.320 at the Palladium with a Flex and King's Son came 0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:32.280 out wicked and King Sun came out said, yo Que, 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.920 that's my soul that you stole. Yeah. Yeah, Like I 0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:41.560 was there for I seen Tretch challenged Daylight Soul on 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.440 stage because he was mad because they had to record 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.960 when they said so stick to your nutty button, Natures 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.800 in your pain and when they was raising both on 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.320 Tommy Boy, They're like classic moment. Yeah. I was at 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.400 the Palladium for all those funk Master Flex parties. Flex. 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:58.160 I was at some of them parties. I was usually 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.120 kicked out and I told you was doing yeah, yeah, 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.200 So how about you in high tech right right? So 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.719 this is nice, like I'm in high school three. This 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.160 is when Jessic could do in this party. Okay, So 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.839 I went to n y U. My wife, everybody piece 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.439 you god damage, You're coming out here to make sure 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:24.120 everybody's acting all right. Party. I went to n y 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.040 U and then I got and then I left, and 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:27.880 then I started working in the cub books. I was 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:32.279 doing these uh book show shows. These bookstore shows were 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:37.600 like Dead Prayers and Lord Jama and around nine went 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.960 to l A. I was friends with Mike and nine 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.360 for Freestyle Fellowship. He had moved to New York. He 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.320 was signed to Keytar Mask Keytar Entertainment. He moved to 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.600 New York. Keat I was working on D'Angelo and Erica 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.440 about doing Micah at the time hanging out with them, 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:53.880 and then I went to l A Tounk with him. 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.560 I caught a hitchhike to the day hold on time. 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.120 You're the first black man I ever heard you the 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:06.920 word hit. Just make no exact but look I was back. 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.880 I took a greahound bus from New York to l A. 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.640 But you gotta got that from white people. You ain't 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.960 just you ain't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just getting him. 0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.319 He wasn't in Brooklyn and Flatbush and Nigga said, Yo, 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.680 you got that from your white friend? Did Los Angeles 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.720 to the bay Mystic Journeyman? Shout out to Mystic Journeyman 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.840 from Bay Area. I met them at a club and 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.759 at the Good Life Cafe in Los Angeles, and they 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:35.800 told me come to the Bay Area. You good I 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.400 hated paper collar. Now it's way before that, but in 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.200 my mind when you said that, I just popped the collar. 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:48.880 I'm sorry. That was hella. Okay, okay, I might have 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:50.440 to ask you to get some more drink. You got. 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.720 You gotta loosen up. And you was shooting a video today. 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.520 Let's pick up your video you was doing. Shout out 0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.400 to Nicole and chatz uh Van Queen shout video for 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.240 a song called good Girls Today, Good Girls O, good Girls. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.719 I meet good girls in the right places. My new 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.479 albums called Toward the Force. He used to be called 0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:14.160 He's very smart Force toward the Force. I got j 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.600 like trying to call on it. I gotta walk a 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.759 flock on it. I got nor on its almost he's 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:28.520 putting pressure on. Let's make some noise for He's just 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.520 drink chat to me on the drink chat. Well, Tyler 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.319 is my mama bum boy man? Like you know? Um. 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.800 One of the things that I know I said it earlier, 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.960 but I want to just reiterate it is. I just 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:41.719 want to show the people how cool you are. You 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.560 know what I'm saying, a lot of people think you're 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.439 so serious. Why because you know why? You do speak 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.160 up for us? And you know. I remember me asking 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.800 Russell Simmons one night. I said, your Russell, UM, I 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.040 want you to run for president and he said, I 0:36:55.120 --> 0:37:00.680 smoked dope before, and Russell everybody smoked weed before, said no, Norria, 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:07.160 I smoked heroine. I've seen the show. I'm not arrested you, 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.239 but I want you to run for New York City mayor. 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:10.920 Are you mad at me for throwing that out there. No, 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.480 I'm not mad at you know what. Local politics is 0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.520 better than presidential politics. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.080 so you could do you're gonna do the New York City. No, 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.799 I'm not, because you could do right here, Chance Radio 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:30.759 Tiland running for Brooklyn City Councilman's not like like the 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.200 city councilman, the assemblyman to school board public service announcement. 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.560 You gotta vote for these people if you have chids 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.040 and they go to school in your neighborhoods. That's part 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:41.880 that people miss. That's the part that people miss. You 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.480 know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not I'm slacking on 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.000 it because I don't even be in New York enough 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.040 to do it, you know I'm saying, But I'm just 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.760 a public service for me to just um one Senate 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:55.520 in his and he's holly there. I think that. I 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.120 think that, you know, honestly, I know I'm playing around 0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.719 a little bit, but I think like people like jay 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.440 Z Russell Simmons, I live quality people who know politics 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.520 like me. I learned my politics on Bill Moore. Like 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.160 you know what I'm saying, if it's on Bill Moore. 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.320 I know what's going on. Yeah, but that's learn his politics. 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.680 But it's like this, I used to be the type 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.720 of nig but you know politics this if this footage 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.000 of me talking about why you shouldn't vote. I'm not 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.640 somebody who believes that you should just vote for the 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.960 sake of voting. People be like people died for the 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:31.120 sake of voting. Voting in America is a broken system. 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.799 But I read I read Man in Merrible book about 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.680 Malcolm X and Malcolm X his ship was the ballot 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.360 of Man and Marrible. He's a scholar. He wrote a 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.960 book called The Reinvention Life and Reinvention. It's a it's 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.960 a book about Malcolm xIC after Malcolm X autobiography. It's 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.600 a good book. I sell it on my website Quality 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:56.120 club dot com club. We don't sell any books in 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.759 I sell hoodies and T shirts and fucking hats. That 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.160 the audio book with that, No, I'm working on that, 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:10.520 the coming coming. But I got so heat he changed 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.360 my mind when I read this book because Man and 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.920 Man and Marrable wrote about how Malcolm X got with 0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.720 Adam Clayton Powell in the sixties. Adam Clayton Powell's famous 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:22.319 senator from Harlem. They formed voting black Adam Clayton, Adam, 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.080 you know exactly. That's what I'm talking about. What I'm 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:32.080 saying got awkward. I'm sorry, but that's that's real ship. 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:37.040 So Adam Clayton got with Malcolm X and they formed 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.400 voting blocks. So you see the Irish people in New 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.799 York and the Jewish people, they vote as a as 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.520 a community. They get they get the ship if they 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.600 if they want. The Cubans in Miami, they went to 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:50.520 trash cleaned up, they want to stop sign whatever they want, 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.960 they get because they vote as voting blocks. As African 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.560 American people, we don't do that. Adam clay In Powell 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.879 and Malcolm X figured out how to do that. That's 0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.239 what convinced me that the vote is worth something, your 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.320 vote on mina and as an individually. Because Electoral College 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.960 ensued that all the white people and all the rich landowners, 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.920 they all the people don't land and rich people, the 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.160 Electoral College make sure that they vote count more than 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:12.960 the vote in California count more than the vote in 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.279 New York because California is a bigger place and more 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.719 rich people own land there you know what I'm saying. So, 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.120 but if we get together and vote as a block, 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.400 like the Cuban people in Miami or the Jewish Jewish 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.560 people do in New York, then we can affect change. 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:26.960 And that's what I'm down with. You know, I'm gonna 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.280 let you know right now. Yes, the hip hop community 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:34.120 get together and vote for you. You're gonna take the job. Son. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.960 We got people, We got Rass Baraka, he was on 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.279 the Lauren Hill album that I went to Cuba, Ross 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.919 barrock and I met with Ross Barrocker and he's he's 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.600 done mayor. He's the mayor of Newark, New Jersey right now. 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:54.200 He was not there. Tupaca is alive when I went there, 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.360 um uh Asada is there and shout out to Nihanda 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.640 abby o do she's there. We went to Cuba. You 0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.120 know what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying that 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:04.919 you've been going to Cuba for a long time back 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:09.200 I went once. You don't get to that that helped 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.000 us you're in hip hop into listen, yeah yeah, yeah, 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.200 but look at that. You helped the Cubans go back 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.000 to Cuba. Come on, make now you know, Yeah, for 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.120 you We're gonna make it. We're gonna force you, man, 0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.480 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna start what is it a petition? 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.680 A petition. We're gonna hit everybody on Twitter every day. 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.120 We need a hip hop man, that's the hip hop. 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.359 But we got them. We got Jersey and talking about 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.400 Corey Booker, He's hip book. Rasp Barrock to do what 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.279 I'm talking about. He ran against Corey Booker Back of 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.120 the Day. He lost Crey Book of more mainstream Corey Booker. 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.600 Corey Book is good. He like Top s good, Top 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:50.000 forty and Homeboy is underground. That's exactly right, rasp ground. 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.160 Corey Books book is a set of guys. He don't sell. 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.239 He's gonna make it too far. Rasp Rock is a 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:59.000 bare new it. I'm going to rasp Berrocker having a meeting, 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.040 uh and two weeks with Black Lives Matter on me, 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.719 rap City and bust Ron's going. He shout to rasp Rock, 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:11.920 Rasper Rocks, Let's make a noise, Rasper Rock. Laur with 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.239 new album no the Laura Miss Education, Laura Hill. When 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.560 she has the intervals where they got the principal talking 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.640 to the kids, that's Rasper. He run a school. He 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.800 has a principle. He has a school official like a 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:30.440 referee with a whistle wrong. Welcome to play, a new 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:36.120 podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:40.640 and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back 0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:48.920 to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d jes. Now, 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.400 what did the name todder live quality? Because shout to 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.640 my parents, you know that's yours, my boy, Tyl Quality 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.800 Green is my born name. So how bad is it 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.759 you going through customs after not? It was pretty bad, 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.600 you know. And my DJ's name is Hussein. I'll back. 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:09.480 My best friend was was was was Mussa Abdella. No, 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:16.880 but na Mussolini chose some of the Muslim names. No, no, 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:21.200 he was born and he was not. Mussolini is born 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.640 his Muslim. This is so. I used to travel with 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:29.280 a person named Mussa Abdella and Ali Sammy. It wasn't 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.120 great for me going to let's say that. I had 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:33.759 to learn to leave them. But I had to be 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:35.399 like yo, you know, yeah, you wait for your man 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.040 and he'd be like, no, that's not working. I'm saying, 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.080 but that's not eleven, that's not I got stopped everywhere, 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:46.200 fucking they don't know what you look a ram, I'm 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:50.919 cub I'm sorry, started wrapping American flags around their head 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:57.680 like through that's that that this is crazy. So did 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.759 you have problems going through customs or no? It was 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:01.200 I mean, you know I got yeah, you know, I 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:02.719 got the random search. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.239 but I had been used to it by that time. 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.520 I traveled the world a bunch of times. He was saying, 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.440 like that, it's different every country we got. I got 0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:13.400 stopped by to see everybody. I got to talk about this. 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.399 Not maybe not it was FBI was FPI, WHOA WHOA 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.120 hold on, let's get into this story. Was listen ahead, 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:25.040 let's look. I pulled up to the airport. They was like, 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.239 they pulled me to the side, put me in the 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:35.120 back room. They said, on this night, where was you? 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.520 I was in curR Room studios, working on my own quality. 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.759 I was listening to Stokely Car Michael speech. Stokely Car 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.480 Black panther brother right, black power. He was the one 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.879 who in the ablackwer They knew this. They started talking 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.560 to me about this. The reason they knew this is 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.200 because when I booked my flight. I booked my flight 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.720 with Jet Blue while I was listening to this speci 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.719 Are you supposed to make are we supposed to make noise? 0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:07.680 With Jeff Blue? Definitely give up. Continue. They pulled me. 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.200 They showed me a list of names and all the 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.360 names was blacked out except for my wife d j 0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:16.279 Q and my manager at the time, Corey Smith. Corey Smith, 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.480 he managed Vincent states that's right. At one point, continue 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.879 right on point. They said, do you know these people 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.000 had my manager and my wife's name that's said everybody 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.719 else and black that. I said, I know them. I said, 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.000 that's my manner, that's my wife. I said, why are 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:28.359 you got from people? They said, those are the people 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.399 you travel with the most. What I'm saying, I said, 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:32.600 why do you stop me? They pulled me that. They 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.040 pulled me. They said they was question asked me on 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.120 these questions. They said, you was listening to a speech 0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.719 that seem violent and anti government. God wait wait wait wait. 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.359 But when he was listening to the speech out again 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:48.960 in the studio and current room studio, when he was 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.440 justin before just blades, when he was justin he was 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.040 just gra phillies for me. But that's right, when he 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.840 was an intern, just blazes up at night, late at 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.279 night in the studio where his mom. I love ground, 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.320 I love his grind. Yeah, that's where. That's where I 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.600 was at and when I got to the airport. This 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.480 was when jet Blue was the first cramemb when jet 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:10.640 Blue was first cracking that. I'm sorry, I don't with 0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:16.120 jet Blue. When United, nigga, let's make some noise for United. 0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:23.320 I'm trying to get spontsor enjoys me that kind of 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.640 days when they still had the t w A terminal 0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:33.440 back in wa we just go. That's before Miles. Nobody 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.279 had Miles back there. But you can drink in the 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.359 teken floor. It's like, yeah, this is paper, my man, 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.239 he just came home. We just came He smokes clear paper. Yeah, 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.919 this is that official like this vegan like it? Vegan smoke? 0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.480 Is that like vegan? We have vegan smoke here. Let's 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.200 make some noise for vegan smoke. We don't know what 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.919 it is. I got a vegan. Jokes, I got a vegan. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.400 How do you know somebody vegan? Don't worry, they fucking 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:05.440 tell you he cans. Get the joke. Yeah, we didn't, 0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.520 all right, Tyler, I hate to switch the subject. I 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.360 hate to ask you this, but you know what happened. 0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.479 We had the god body care arrests on this show. 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:22.520 That's my that's that's my mentor, that's my mentor. Yeah, yeah, 0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:26.200 because you know why he didn't have a chance to 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.280 defend himself. I know exactly. Me Let me what happened. 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.440 I got an opinion of this. Let me let me 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.359 go that I got my because because this is how 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.520 here you take it. So this this is the thing, right, 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:42.200 Caress is my mentor. He from Queens. That's an extra means, 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:45.080 that means extra more and said to him on the podcast, 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.520 I always said that at So what happened was I 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:51.960 asked him about this question and Caroress is long winded. 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.320 What I mean by long winded is he can't give Caress. 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:57.960 He'll give you what I mean, He'll give you a 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.680 three minute answer. Right. What I wanted from Careres was 0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.520 YO when I asked this question, and so when he 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.040 didn't answer like that, I know the internet, like you know, 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.839 you know the internet. So this is the reason why, 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.480 because they're gonna they're gonna shorten it no matter how 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.400 which way I asked you this, They're gonna shorten it, 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.719 you know what I'm saying. So when I realized that 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:22.960 Chris was going, you know, a little too far, I 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.520 kind of let him answer, but I changed the subject. 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:30.000 In the Internet, it's like that's that is not Caress 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.120 for I'm sure he was gonna get to the point 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.040 to say that that this part and this part is wrong. 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.960 But when he kept you know, prolong, and you know, 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.400 I I understand it. It's about like that, like you 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.400 already see how we cut each other off. You know 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.759 what I'm saying, because we already know we're cutting it 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.440 up for one minute to thirty minutes and fifteen second clips. 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.839 We got it already designed in our head, right, all right? 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.400 So I asked Caress this question. I said, what should 0:48:55.400 --> 0:49:00.319 we do with African band bother and the situation? Right? 0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.320 And Chris, you know, I don't want to say he 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:09.040 defended them. He defended their relationship, which is totally but 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.279 the Internet wanted him to say, boom, this is wrong. 0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:15.640 He's still my man. But if it's you know what 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.720 I'm saying, And so I have to ask you pretty 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:24.120 much the same. Well, here's the thing. The language of 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:29.520 political correctness evolves over time, and if you're not really 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:33.280 engaged in paying attention like every second to the Internet 0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.920 and to the social media and what people are saying 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.800 an academic language and how people are dealing with everything, 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:44.080 for racism, the sexism, the child abuse, to everything. You 0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:48.040 may just talk and speak your mind, but because people 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.200 receive a lot more information, they may not understand where 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.080 you're coming from, Like you want me speak a certain 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.319 language because we're from New York. You want me speak 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:58.320 a certain language because we hip hop, or because we minority, 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:00.960 or because you know what I'm saying. Care Arrest is 0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.759 an older gentleman and he's a teacher. He's a teacher, 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.680 but he comes from a different generation. He comes from 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.279 an older generation with a language and the paradigm and 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.400 everything that they informed by is different than now. So 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.000 the way that the language that he's speaking on current 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:18.520 topics is different is why you hear older people speaking 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.560 and you may not relate to them. You'd be like, oh, 0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.160 she's changed since then. So not only are you dealing 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.400 with somebody who's older and somebody who's not engaged with 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:32.400 the current language. But I don't think he understood the facts. 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.520 Neither and you, but you also do None of us 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.640 knew the fact. None of us also listen, listen, but 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:40.000 now we know the ACU Caress is from a generation 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.680 that's from before the internet. He had still he's from 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:48.040 before the end. People don't say that his phone. I 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.040 ain't gonna lie. I was embarrassed. I wanted. I told 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.279 him I was gonna buy. You been embarrassed on everybody's phone. 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:59.399 I ain't gonna lie. I've been disappointed. You don't cracks 0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.920 in school? Is just your up to date Caress. Caress 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:08.600 still had a two way. I'm just playing Caress. He 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.160 knows like a joke on him, but ahead, but you 0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:16.640 know what it is. Here's the thing, Caress, It's clear 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:20.640 to me, I'm gonna be It's clear to me as 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:22.759 as as a fan of Caress, as someone who knows 0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:27.160 him personally, that he doesn't condone any of the accusations. 0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:30.359 Of course he of course he doesn't. No, not even 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.719 even with Caress making a record like thirteen and Good, 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.040 because a lot of people have given him flak, A 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:39.480 lot of flak has come back, has haunted him for 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.919 this record that he did years ago, that I wrote, 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.080 I read he read it. He wrote a whole because 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.879 of his drink. Champs state that I read what I'm saying, 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.440 and he said, he said a record that I did 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:56.200 as a joke. We used to joke about rape and 0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.080 child abused. Back in the day. We used to use 0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.799 the word faggot with no remorse and no. We come 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.080 from if you older, we come from a generation where 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.479 that wasn't taboo, That wasn't We wasn't enlightened, We wasn't 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:11.919 evolved evolved enough to understand what was wrong with those things, 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.680 and we we engaged in those sticks. When I was 0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.240 growing up, I used the word faggot. I called niggas 0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:21.520 pucks right now, right now, like even the term man up. 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:23.600 You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying. 0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.520 Like I grew up saying man up. I've told my 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:27.920 son man up. But as a forty year old man, 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.680 I made a decision to stop using that term because 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.720 I realized it's sexist. I realized that that and negates 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.960 and the racist women when I say man up. But 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:40.239 I'm still evolving as a man. I'm still evolving as 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.239 a man. And as we grow and we evolved, we 0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:44.279 do things as we're younger. What I'm saying in the 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.400 in the seventies, I watched TV shows and clips from 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.000 the seventies and the eighties and early eighties where people 0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:51.480 were getting away with ship that you put it on 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.759 the internet. Now, now you know what I watched the 0:52:53.800 --> 0:53:00.400 other day that was sucking me up? Were Avenge of 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:04.560 the Nerds. You ever three? He had four? Actually he 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.840 had be with the other dude. So he went in 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:11.400 there and he he dressed as the other dude and 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:15.280 he basically raped the chick, right, and that ship was funny. 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.279 But if he came out now you if it came 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:21.000 out now that because we looked at the old the 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:26.560 rat pack they was, it was that wanted and that's 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.160 like the good time the fellas. We gotta make a 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.920 point because it's gonna look crazy. Got let's get to 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:39.640 the point for trying to make because make the point 0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.839 the Zulu Nation and Harris one and all these people 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.319 who come from a different terror the way that they 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.040 had to go. We're gonna make a point because listen, 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:54.200 because listen, we went we were to like a dumb area. 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.799 We did. He's the smartest nick in here. We gotta 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.680 make him not make sense to this. Come on with 0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:05.640 the kid. Yeah, I bet you Jain is Jamaican. They 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:14.160 got seventeen jobs, two languages. Anybody in London, anybody speak 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:20.520 Jamaican from London. He spent too. Let's make the point. 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:22.120 Let's make the point. But we've got to make the 0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.720 point because listen, they're gonna fry you on the internet. 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:31.839 You gotta tell we don't have fat I'm used to listen. 0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.759 The response has to be responsible. Now, the Puerto Rican 0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.160 sistem referred to Roads and Clemente or DJ and Candy 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:41.759 and a bunch of people that they rock with a 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:46.640 fashion a response to the Zulu Nation accusations. Because let's 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.759 be clear, this to accusations. But even though the accusations, 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:51.799 you have to take them seriously. You have to use 0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:53.839 the word victim. You have to say that these people 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:57.120 are victims until proven otherwise, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.800 you have to take it seriously. African being about a 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:03.719 show step down, Zula Nation should step up in a 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.760 way that they have not stepped up before. Rosa Clemente 0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:09.840 and Candy they are they are female members of the 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:12.680 Zula Nation. They wrote a response that I retreated on 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:17.120 my account. Um, if you google and Candy Rosa Clemente 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:21.160 Zula Nation, you'll see they wrote the hip hop response 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.920 that I co sa a response from hip hop to 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:25.920 the alex. This is what needs this is what hip 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:26.960 hop needs to hear. You know what I'm saying. Like 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:31.840 they they they spoke about, um, the silencing of victims. 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:34.200 They spoke about how hard it is for victims of 0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.040 sexual abuse to speak up, and how it's taboo and 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.800 how you ostracize if you're a victim of sexual abuse. 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.160 And they spoke about all that, but they all spoke 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.120 about how bi about it, how important he is in 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.759 the coach is what I'm saying, Like, we can't not 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.680 with African Bimbada and the Zula Nation and we can separate. 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.280 If African Banba has done these things, and the evidence 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:59.799 is pretty strong, it's pretty strong. But if he's done 0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:06.600 the things, we remember that from the Zulu Nation, the culture. Yeah, 0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.960 African Bimbada, this is somebody who as a as a 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:14.000 somebody who loves hip hop. I've revered, I've looked up to. 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:17.799 There's a cultural worship, celebrity worship around him and people 0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:21.400 who worship him and people who because their introduction to 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:23.560 hip hop and their relationship with hip hop is through 0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.120 African and Bader. You know what I'm saying, we have 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:28.560 to stay away from celebrity worship. He's just a man. 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:31.399 What I'm saying, we have to acknowledge what he gave 0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:35.160 to the culture. But if these accusations and allegations are true, 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.480 and the evidence present itself that is true, we got 0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:39.759 to deal with it and we have to. We have 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:41.839 to take it seriously and we have to be responsible 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.640 because we we as we come from a community of 0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.920 poor people. This this abuse in this type of stuff, 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.520 whether he did it or not, it happens to poor 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:53.200 people and it doesn't get reported, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.160 So it's like we have to make sure that we 0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:58.319 step up and we're responsible for you know, even fuck 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:04.000 the court of law, how we deal with the youth. 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.319 That's right. You know what I want to I want 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:09.759 you to elaborate on is when you said you think 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:11.319 he needs to step down because a lot of people 0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:14.319 in the community. I think he did step down. Um, 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:18.040 the brother Muhammad, which was like his lifelong security guard, 0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.160 had just said the same thing. So I just wanted 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.400 you to elaborate on for the people who don't know. 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:24.680 You know what I'm saying, Like, what do you mean 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.880 by that? Because well, because there's so much speculation and 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:32.560 so much unanswered questions that you're tainting the legacy of 0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:36.080 Zulu Nation by not either speaking up about it or 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.320 stepping down. Like I feel like I can't speak on 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:41.680 that man because I'm not that man, but I feel 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:45.120 like it was if it was me, even the possibility 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.880 of the accusation, whether I did it or not, I 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.280 would want to disassociate myself from hip hop, from Zulu 0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:55.320 Nation and deal with my own stepped down, know what, 0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:58.400 the effect that it's having one, And that's just me. 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.560 You know, I can't speak for that man at all. 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.840 He was saying, you gotta have you right? Do I 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:08.920 need another drink? Drink? I was about to say, make 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:10.640 some noise for that, but I don't know if people 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:14.240 will kill me. But listen, you know, thank you, you know, 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:18.720 live because you know why. Um Chris again, who was 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.200 my mentor? I knew he kind of didn't understand that 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.840 we gotta wait from that. Yeah, christ is Chris. Chris 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.560 is somebody I think I think I paid attention. What 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.760 he said on your show. I think it was clear, 0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.400 and I paid attention to his end, and I gotta 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.280 say this and this listen, let me let me. Chris 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.240 is a friend of mine, we have records together. This 0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:37.880 is my mentor, this is my favorite. I'm say this 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:39.680 is somebody who I've learned. I was talking him. I 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.840 hit you because I heard together to night the night before, 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:48.360 so I didn't show with him the night before. And honestly, 0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:52.160 I gotta say this, I wish he wouldn't have wrote 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.000 that opad. I wish he would have wrote it in 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:55.960 a different fashion because I don't feel like he cleared 0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:58.840 anything up with the end right exactly. I don't feel 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.080 like the op ed helped him, you know what I'm saying. 0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:02.680 I feel like I don't. I don't feel like he 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.880 clarified his position. You know. I think, as somebody who 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.000 loves hip hop and somebody who understands the impact of 0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.360 what Africa about It has done for hip hop, I 0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:13.320 think that his vision was a little clouded when he 0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:16.200 wrote the op ed, what I'm saying, and I think 0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:18.520 that he was coming from a place in nostalgia, in 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:23.880 a place of maybe possibly emotion, And because I think that, 0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:29.800 you know, the whole like conspiracy theory thing, like the 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:33.520 whole thing, like we shouldn't even be speaking they side, 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.000 we shouldn't even be speaking on that, you know what 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:40.240 I'm saying like that, And I think I think that 0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.720 as as people who love music and people want to 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.800 like you have everything, have context. Caress is somebody who 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:48.040 hip hop saved his life. This is somebody who was 0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:51.680 homeless and rose to be one of the greatest poets 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:55.720 and musicians of all time. Fuck a genre, fucking music, 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.840 Caress is one of the greatest of all time. And 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:03.160 I think, yeah, I think that we're not You're not 1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:05.760 going to understand his position on it unless you understand 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:08.120 hip hop. But we have to defend cars, That's what 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.920 I'm saying. He wrote that head he had just come 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.760 off that long ass cruise. He was like, it's so 1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:18.840 it's because yeah, he don't we explain that on the show. 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:22.320 It was like crazy, because you know, I love Harris 1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:24.680 one man, that's my hero. Like, let me just say 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:31.520 that it was that small and excellent. But you know, 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.360 there's certain people that want to focus on that, and 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:35.040 you know what, they have the right to because we're 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:38.640 all public figures people can just like this interview, we 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:40.560 got some dope ship, and we're gonna go into some 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:42.760 dope with ship. But people can take and pick what 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.400 they want. I can't wait to see what's might have. 1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:48.080 I'm out of pocket. That's wrong, It's fantastic. Don't worry 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.200 about I can't what it is because you know why 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:54.640 I'm Iron claud When I'm able to defend my position 1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:59.480 from every I love that. I'm like iron Cloud, iron Cloud, 1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:02.479 what does that mean? That means hardcore? Like that ain't 1:01:02.680 --> 1:01:06.640 gonna get you take iron That was hard and that 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:11.080 was right. Yeah, I was like what that means? So 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:14.240 now listen, you said it earlier, washing this who has Park? 1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:17.640 You said it very like nonchalantly. That's when you met 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:22.200 David Chappelle. That, um no, I met Dave Chappe's working 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:25.160 in the cure books. You had a lot of jobs. Yeah. 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.680 I was a Jamaican. Yeah, let's make some noise to 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:37.800 and um I was dating a girl who shall remain 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:41.800 nameless and she had just broken up with Dave Chappelle. Wait, 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:44.960 hold on, hold on, that's all, that's all. And she 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:47.520 used to talk about him, and I used to be like, 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:58.680 but I wasn't hate it. You only only only ship 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:01.600 that Dave Chappelle did at this um was Nutty Professor. 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:06.680 He was Reggie, he was the brave. I used to 1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.080 be like the Reggie and did think of the piano Nigga. 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:13.720 He was funny. Then the piano the piano nigga him. 1:02:13.920 --> 1:02:16.760 He was hating on the piano Nigga po not Buddy 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:20.520 loves right now. Buddy loved the piano Nigga got one 1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:25.040 scene she said yes. I said, look she broke up 1:02:25.080 --> 1:02:26.320 with me and went, I think she went back with 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:30.200 Hi Niga after that. Just keep it going, keep it 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:40.320 going earlier, shall remain nameless, he knows. A couple of 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:44.040 years later, uh Corey Smith used to manage da last song. Okay. 1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:46.680 Dave Chappelle lived in Yellow Springs. He grew up Yellow Springs, Ohio. 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:49.080 Uh Dani also had a show near there. I went 1:02:49.120 --> 1:02:51.840 to the show. I was hot Tech and Cincinnati, so 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:54.720 I yeah, I rolled up to the show. Dave Chappelle 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:58.440 was at the day las So show and I told him, 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.600 I said, you and me used to deal with the 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.680 same chick. By this time he had did half big 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:08.160 though he did happen by this time it was out 1:03:08.200 --> 1:03:10.000 and it was a cold classic. So this time I'm 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:14.800 like Dave Chappelle, fun with you. You with the same chick, 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:17.200 but I fuxed with you and he said really, And 1:03:17.240 --> 1:03:19.240 I told him the story. I see him in the 1:03:19.280 --> 1:03:21.360 hallway and all that, but he didn't know who I was. 1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:25.520 He was like, okay, and then we was cool. Then 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:28.520 a couple of years later, I was an Electric Lady 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:31.720 working on the album of High Tech on Street. Of course, 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:33.680 I know, you know this is crazy. And I just 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.800 seen a Zy do a documentary and he's speaking about 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:41.400 Electric Lady because you guys were trying to like when 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:43.360 I was working the Electric Lady, I was on the 1:03:43.400 --> 1:03:45.320 top floor, Common was on the second floor. We're gonna 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:47.680 like water for chocolate. J Will you remember that white cat. 1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:49.880 You used to want to shoot that white cat which 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:51.880 had a white cat, an electric lady. I remember the 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:55.800 White chicks Mary a cat. They had a cat. You know, 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:59.280 come on, you know what I'm talking about. They had 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:01.440 a white cat. The cat used to just look at 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:04.280 me and like, yo, I'm a straight I have I 1:04:04.360 --> 1:04:08.120 just have a gun on me. I'm still I like killer. 1:04:08.240 --> 1:04:11.800 I was gonna kill that cat. That's right. It's a 1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:14.360 white cat. And they ustill always say that's Jimmy Hendrix 1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:24.200 saying the cat jim personal. You guys are crazy. Listen, Jimmie, 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:27.080 this is Jimmie Hendrick studio. Jimmy Hendricks was in the cat, 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:30.520 so they said the spirit of jim was in this 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:34.200 cat with I used to go to the bathroom. And 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.040 you know, you can't ask the guys to go with 1:04:36.120 --> 1:04:38.560 mad homies, so you can't act the homies want me 1:04:38.560 --> 1:04:41.120 to do the bathroom. That's the only thing to look 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:45.240 at you like, the next what the fuck? That cat? 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:48.440 This cat was in was in the studio and the 1:04:48.640 --> 1:04:52.320 studio reflection, internal training thought, because in every studio was 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:56.840 like just whatever chocolate D'Angelo was downstairs in the baseball kid. 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:59.400 You notice at the same time, and this is they 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:02.680 say that Jimmy Hendrix. They say that because you know 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:06.320 that Jimmy owned the studio owned. I swear to god, 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.919 I've never take the story before, my man. I haven't 1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:12.880 thought about that cat many years. And you know this 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:15.800 is why I know the cat is special. I'm allergic 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:17.960 to cats. I never broke out when I went to 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:22.200 the studio. I did bad from TV, there was recorded 1:05:22.240 --> 1:05:24.680 an electric lady, so I forgot the point he was making. 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:27.439 But you was an electric lady. So if you listen 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:30.400 to the Reflection turn album, here drops right. There was 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:33.240 this girl that I knew there was dating Lennox Lewis 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:35.200 at the time. And we're still on the Chappale right. 1:05:35.920 --> 1:05:37.880 She brought LENNYX Lewis the studio. So if you listen 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:41.680 Reflection he was dating Lenniz Lewis. Girl. Again, what kind 1:05:41.680 --> 1:05:51.320 of big are you? Tyler? I thought, that's what that's 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:55.280 your home girl, girl, my girl. He said it like 1:05:55.400 --> 1:06:01.640 that's my girl. But I think he wasn't. That's right. 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:15.240 I can't very restal, he's very Now you listening to 1:06:15.320 --> 1:06:18.160 Reflection turn albums, Lex Lewis he has won two or 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:20.800 three four Reflection turne. Gil Scott Heron is on the 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:24.400 Reflection turnout. He came to the problem. He came in 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:28.160 Dave Chappelle. I'm walking on the street on a street 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:31.919 going to Grace s Pappie. That's the hot dog spot 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:34.600 for those that don't know. I see Dave Chappelle. I said, 1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:37.520 remember me from the Daylight Show. He said yeah, I said, 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.480 I work on the album. He came to the studio. 1:06:40.080 --> 1:06:43.600 Dave Chappelle came every day after that day. So when 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:47.880 you hear Dave, Rick James and Nelson Mandela opening the reflection, 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:51.360 that's Dave Chappelle doing all that was, Yeah, that's Dave Chappelle. 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:53.560 Did not know this, Yeah, he came through every day 1:06:53.600 --> 1:06:56.000 when we high TechEd that album, Da Chappelle was in 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:59.240 the studio every day that album. But this is this 1:06:59.360 --> 1:07:04.280 was right when half half after half bab we don't 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:07.400 know he's there. But this this was no Chappelle show, 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:11.200 nothing right there. So then how did that happen? Autumn 1:07:11.280 --> 1:07:13.840 years later he starts the Chappelle Because you guys were 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:16.720 performing for him, like even before his show blew up, 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:18.480 it seemed like a family. Now he was in the 1:07:18.520 --> 1:07:20.760 studio for all that. He was an electric lady around 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.280 all that time. And so he got the show and 1:07:23.320 --> 1:07:25.640 shout out to Corey Smith once again him and had 1:07:25.640 --> 1:07:27.920 a good had a good relationship. He got a deal 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:30.000 with Comedy Central. He said, I want to do the 1:07:30.080 --> 1:07:32.480 show Chappelle Show, but one of his visions was I 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:35.800 want to have the musicians that I fun and didn't 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:37.840 you're perform in the kitchens one time that was that 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:41.680 was common and Kanye cool. Okay, so he had Yeah, 1:07:41.720 --> 1:07:43.560 I did. I didn't get by you know what I'm saying, 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:45.600 Like he had Big Boy, he had Celo, he had 1:07:45.640 --> 1:07:49.960 DMX whatever he needed two words to performed that there 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:55.840 most and whatever David listened to at the time, That's 1:07:55.880 --> 1:07:58.040 what he had on this show. That's what I was saying, 1:07:58.080 --> 1:07:59.600 like he was in the hip hop And then when 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:01.919 he did block Party, the block Party was it wasn't 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:07.160 it was the best time in Yeah, And Dave paid 1:08:07.200 --> 1:08:10.520 for that. He paid for that. We filmed it and 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:12.400 then he sold it to the movie company. So he 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:14.000 didn't know if he was gonna know he did. We 1:08:14.080 --> 1:08:15.640 just we just did it. He just and I got. 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:18.559 I made royalties off off of that. You know, for years, 1:08:19.000 --> 1:08:20.840 I can't remember my last Royal Tea check, but for 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:25.400 years I made money off that. For Block part its revolutionary. 1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:28.679 So it's like, okay, as a black man, I'm gonna 1:08:28.680 --> 1:08:30.320 do my own ship. I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.920 put it out. So the nigger girl you was kept 1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:44.080 it real with you five come on, I worked out that. 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:50.240 I'm I'm regretting that. So now I'm not. Let me 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:53.920 let me ask you this. You meet Dave, he's a 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:57.000 regular guy, You're a regular guy. You guys both become stars. 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.000 He makes you a part of the show. Then all 1:08:59.040 --> 1:09:03.800 of a sudden, he did you have a call him 1:09:03.840 --> 1:09:05.760 about that? Or yeah, I was. I was hanging out 1:09:05.800 --> 1:09:08.599 with Dave around a lot of that time and at 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:11.800 the time he quit. Yeah, you know, he you know, 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:15.840 he was in a situation where he felt compromised. He 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:17.519 felt like the money that he took and the money 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:22.880 that he accepted made him they was taking advantage of him, 1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:26.120 and like a cornery rave this. Yeah, you know, like 1:09:26.320 --> 1:09:28.840 like a lot of these kids that they a lot 1:09:28.880 --> 1:09:33.080 of kids. Everybody loved Dave Chappelle, but not everybody understood 1:09:33.160 --> 1:09:36.200 Dave Chappelle. Like and I'm hearing this, this is the 1:09:36.240 --> 1:09:38.519 woman that I heard. I'm hearing that it was from 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:42.639 black folks like like Oprah, And maybe I don't. I can't, 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:44.880 I can't speaking with that man. Okay, yeah, Like, but 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:48.479 but from what I observed, you know, I think that 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:52.560 his comedy, Dave Chappelle comedy, like the best comedy, was 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:56.439 very intellectual. People didn't understand the nuances Dave Chappelle come 1:09:56.479 --> 1:09:59.920 from educated people. You know, he comes from black academia. 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:01.559 You know what I'm saying, Like he comes from heavy 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:05.320 ideas and intellectualism, but it's broken down in the comedy way. 1:10:05.600 --> 1:10:07.760 And a lot of people got the funniness of it 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:11.720 but didn't get the point. And I think I heard 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:16.680 like princes princesses. But even even on something like heard, 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:21.920 you got a prince story, I got several princes. Hold on, 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:29.000 let me get the hard all right, hold on, we 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:30.760 gotta set we gotta set this up, all right, So 1:10:30.840 --> 1:10:33.800 hold on, time out here quality from we just switch 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:39.679 it up. Yeah, we always horrible. I'm not cutting off. 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:43.120 I'm actually I haven't cut him off yet. Just see 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:48.160 stories I sweat because you know you from Brooklyn. Yes, 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:51.439 you had flash all day. You have fifteen hundred jobs 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:56.160 before you were sixteen dred job. Choose one you become 1:10:56.200 --> 1:10:58.559 an m C prince. I don't give a funk if 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:00.280 you're a killer. I don't give a funk if you're 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.519 a backpack on this, if you always princess guard to 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:06.240 all of us as far as making music and art, music, 1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:13.639 creative coaches, finest broad YEP and your first time mean 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:16.880 Prince when you first subscribed, shout to dj Q my wife, 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:18.960 dj Q, I like, I like how you pick up 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:21.160 your wife? God damn it. How five? That's real? Five, 1:11:21.200 --> 1:11:27.760 real ship. Let's make some noise for that. L A right, 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:33.840 she didn't stretch. She's a She's a world class famous DJ, 1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:38.240 and Prince got to liking her DJ skills. She became 1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:40.599 a wife work with Prince. This is not started out. 1:11:41.400 --> 1:11:44.000 This is not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie. 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:46.679 I'm a jealous guy. Prince, you listen, Prince, you gotta 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.360 get the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma. 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:55.920 I'm sorry, he's not doing your Prince. Now. She was 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.120 DJ in his party. You know what? And by this 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:00.080 time when I met Prince, first I met Prince was 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:02.360 maybe a house of blues l A M. She was DJ. 1:12:02.640 --> 1:12:04.800 You know he did he float? Now, he didn't levitate 1:12:04.880 --> 1:12:10.040 to float. He had a second back. Prince Prince knew 1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:11.479 his hip hop when I first met him. You know 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:13.160 what I'm saying, Like he knew, but he knew certain 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:14.840 type of hip and he knew like common. He like 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:17.880 like common I am, And it was like he likes 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:20.120 certain things into something. He like hip hop, and he 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:23.000 like hip hop. That was a little bit more like organic, 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:27.679 saying like he liked like Lauren Hell, you know, like Common, 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:30.519 like he really liked Colmon a lot, like he's a 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:34.000 Common fan and and and Common is one of my 1:12:34.040 --> 1:12:35.880 favorite Common work with him at all. I don't know 1:12:35.880 --> 1:12:38.880 if Common might have worked Prince here. He like Erica, 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:40.280 I do a lot, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:44.599 Prince I met yeah, yes, yeah, So when I met him, 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:45.800 he said, I like that. He said, like, I like 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:47.760 that one son. You the hot thing I was saying, 1:12:47.920 --> 1:12:49.800 I have so will I am hot thing was on 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:52.280 the hook and and he like he liked, well I 1:12:52.320 --> 1:12:54.640 am a black Eye's and that type of ship. Um. 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:57.120 I started just hanging out doing parties. You know my wife, 1:12:57.160 --> 1:12:59.400 My wife would do parties. Prince was shot up at 1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:01.960 the parties. Was just short, hold on, how does this happen? 1:13:02.560 --> 1:13:05.719 Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks 1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:08.680 in the basketball like yeah, I mean no, no, no, 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:12.080 I'm serious, walk in the party. He walking the party. 1:13:12.080 --> 1:13:14.320 You know. I went to a party once in l A. 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.639 What's that club that's across the street from the Beverly Center. 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:23.080 The club that's his name is Prince walked in the 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:26.720 club ended in. Prince kept a bunch of us in 1:13:26.800 --> 1:13:30.000 the club and at gun point, no, not a good point, 1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:32.880 but he's Prince. He just did to look almost gun point, 1:13:32.920 --> 1:13:38.479 and everybody stayed point. He put out a little Bible. Wait, Prince, 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:44.479 he said, he did Jehovah's wait and Jehovah's witness. They 1:13:44.520 --> 1:13:47.200 get down like that the Bible. He started having Bible study. 1:13:47.320 --> 1:13:51.479 Don't you know drinking three in the morning was niggas drinking. 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:55.560 There was no niggas there. It's only women and me 1:13:55.920 --> 1:13:57.880 because my wife is DJ, so I was the only 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:00.439 nig And there was one other dude who was a 1:14:00.560 --> 1:14:02.639 boyfriend of one of the other girls. So it's Prince 1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:05.920 and me and this other dude. All right, don't pass that. 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:09.120 This others passing back to me. I got you. This 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:12.479 other dude, Prince, Prince was quoting the horrible he's caughting 1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:15.240 the Bible, and this other dude trying to say something smart. 1:14:16.360 --> 1:14:19.800 And now this other dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay, 1:14:19.880 --> 1:14:21.679 he just happened to be there. He tried to say 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:24.800 something and Prince, I'll never forget this Prince said, listen, Um, 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:28.160 I know you think that you're saying something to add 1:14:28.200 --> 1:14:30.800 onto the conversation, but you really you know what I'm saying. 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:32.320 From what you're saying, I could tell you don't know 1:14:32.360 --> 1:14:35.600 what you're talking about. So how about you just not participating? 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:40.000 The Prince about the whipper, Nika asked, but I'm asking 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:43.240 was He politely told him, you don't know the funk 1:14:43.280 --> 1:14:46.479 you're talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No? He 1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:49.519 did not. He did not. I've been several. I've been 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:52.040 several clubs, and Prince had chuck tail keep his clues, 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:54.280 keep going on this print stories, and then went to 1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:57.960 a club. Do you have been the Zeni? L A 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:00.240 had the party called Zeni they used to have. I 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:05.960 had Big Zini before Big z at two o'clock in 1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:09.000 the morning, the clubs and l A clothes all right, yes, 1:15:09.439 --> 1:15:11.760 And then this dude used to have this party called Zeni. 1:15:12.000 --> 1:15:14.439 We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios. 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:17.320 Jim Henson, right, and I need to know these types 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:20.400 of people I live. Come on my party. I'm bad. Yeah, 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:24.479 I'm hanging out with big big birds with Ernie and 1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:26.599 Bart and bird and ship. You know what I'm saying. 1:15:26.640 --> 1:15:28.599 But he's at these parties. But they used to bring 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:31.040 the alcohol and he's just set up. Stay. You just 1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:33.640 have go go dances and all the celebrities used to go, 1:15:33.800 --> 1:15:39.439 and all the basketball players and that it was he's definitely. 1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:45.519 I was a prince called my wife and he said, 1:15:45.560 --> 1:15:47.920 wait the party at and we said we had ZENI yeah, 1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:50.960 said I'm coming. And this nigger just rolled up and 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:53.479 told I had the privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen, 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:58.000 I'm bringing Prince. I gotta just to beavis story when 1:15:58.040 --> 1:16:00.600 you finish, I'm bringing Prince. How the hell is just 1:16:01.080 --> 1:16:03.640 In Prince going together? Because Justin Pieper said that what 1:16:04.479 --> 1:16:07.720 Prince the only nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't 1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:15.400 remember that. This great hate when to be cut us all. 1:16:16.000 --> 1:16:21.120 Like Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing 1:16:21.280 --> 1:16:24.120 and he said, this party is great, but why is 1:16:24.160 --> 1:16:26.400 she up there dancing with no clothes on? She was, 1:16:26.479 --> 1:16:28.680 he had clothes on, she things covered, but he said 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:30.160 why She just said, you don't need to be done, 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:33.240 you know, because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince, this 1:16:33.320 --> 1:16:35.560 is not the last dragon Prince, because this is not like, 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:43.400 definitely not the prince wild back in the days, in 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:46.479 the eighties. He was out of control, so I said, 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:48.560 listen out. He asked me to introduce him to the 1:16:48.640 --> 1:16:50.799 party promoter. I introduced him, and he said he explained 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:52.400 to me. He said, listen to the girls. They bring 1:16:52.479 --> 1:16:55.280 business people, buy drinks, Prince, and let me talk to her. 1:16:56.600 --> 1:16:58.320 You're trying to convert. Let me talk to her. I 1:16:58.400 --> 1:17:00.800 need to hear this, saying the he talked to the girl. 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:05.640 The girl didn't know who Prince was. Young chick, young 1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:07.519 chick dance in the club. She might have heard the 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:10.840 name Prince. She didn't know. She's going to die to night. 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:15.599 This is a long time ago story, the old story. 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:21.160 She turned. He said. He said, how much are they 1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:24.400 paying you to be in to dance with your clothes off? 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:27.040 She said the number? He said, I'll pay you double 1:17:27.400 --> 1:17:30.599 to get down off that stage go home. That makes 1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:35.360 the noise of a prince being a trick? Is that 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:40.360 reverse pimper? That's reverse per put your clothes on. Prince 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:43.519 invented reverse pimping. She said, I'll take your money tonight, 1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:46.200 but what am I going to do tomorrow night. That's 1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:50.200 what this girl said to Prince. I wonders what was 1:17:51.439 --> 1:17:54.920 he said. I don't have no control for that. That's real. 1:17:55.000 --> 1:18:03.760 P figured it out. I got you to my motherfucker. 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:09.960 I'm not going to quote the verbatim. Besides that, he 1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:13.240 did say that him. Beyond that, he basically explained to her. 1:18:13.280 --> 1:18:15.280 He was like, listen, I'm giving you an opportunity to 1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:18.160 make a different decision in your life. I'm saying that. 1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:19.720 I watched him explain to this girl and talk to 1:18:19.760 --> 1:18:21.160 the girl, and I knew from the way that she 1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:23.559 was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy. 1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:26.800 She didn't understand. She was just like, okay, yeah, Prince 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:30.040 had an album covered with like three bitches buttond on 1:18:30.120 --> 1:18:32.599 top of him, maybe some dudes, and the everybody thought 1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:41.479 he was gay. Wasn't ready for your princess princes God. Yeah, 1:18:41.720 --> 1:18:44.800 he stuck to his guns and and he understood every 1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:47.760 artist and me and Nori, the fact that we even 1:18:48.200 --> 1:18:51.760 here doing drink champs smoking, we talking about stoking about 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:55.599 what I'm saying. We understand that every artist got contradictions. Yeah, 1:18:56.000 --> 1:18:59.600 nature of being an artist's hest one. The person that 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:03.639 we were here. It is the most contradictory artists whatever, 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:06.320 but we were That's part of being human, like you said, 1:19:06.400 --> 1:19:10.280 being because all human beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:14.320 amplified because people pay more attention. You know, say everybody 1:19:14.360 --> 1:19:18.120 got contradictions. Artists, we just we create out of our contradiction. 1:19:18.600 --> 1:19:24.240 I say, right. But Prince was like Jesus man, listen 1:19:24.280 --> 1:19:27.639 to tell you something I've never liked. Billy Dee Williams 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:30.800 transcended for me. Like what I mean by that is 1:19:31.160 --> 1:19:35.799 like Billy D. Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince and Michael Jackson 1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:38.559 was people who were like, you know, I grew up 1:19:38.800 --> 1:19:41.600 in a different you know, a different time like that 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:44.720 he did, Billy d Williamson, that's a hood nigd with 1:19:44.800 --> 1:19:48.760 Michael Jackson and Prince and they said, Billy d those 1:19:48.840 --> 1:19:54.280 were certain people, you know, those were certain people. Yeah, drink, 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:05.680 I'm still going in the secondary. That's that smooth down 1:20:05.760 --> 1:20:08.360 in my taste now. But you know, for those those 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:10.679 those those four individuals right there, those are the people 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.800 who transcended life for me. There was the people that no, no, no, 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:16.519 keep it over here, let's keep it over here. So 1:20:17.680 --> 1:20:19.320 those are the people that transcend the life for me. 1:20:19.400 --> 1:20:21.320 What I mean by that is like, you know, as 1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:24.000 a black person growing up young in my life, I 1:20:24.120 --> 1:20:27.840 can't describe anybody else here or anybody in my life. 1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:29.680 It was like, those are the people that said you 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:31.760 can't do this, you can't do that, and they did it, 1:20:31.840 --> 1:20:33.680 and I was just like I always looked at them. 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:36.120 It was like I ain't I ain't gotta be like them, 1:20:36.360 --> 1:20:39.920 but I respect that what I'm saying. And that's why 1:20:40.160 --> 1:20:42.360 when I met with people like for Rell, it was 1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:45.720 easy for me to say, I don't understand you, and 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:49.240 I don't really I don't really get where you're going there, 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:52.040 but your music is fucking bank. How did you meet? 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:56.920 That's how I met at how I meant for uh. 1:20:58.400 --> 1:21:01.760 We was in sad don't doing sound studios. Everybody used 1:21:01.760 --> 1:21:03.840 to stick. Everybody used to think. Biggie used to be 1:21:03.920 --> 1:21:06.320 called at Daddy's. How something happened at daddy's house, I 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:09.320 don't remember, but Big but Big used to come to 1:21:09.479 --> 1:21:12.679 sound on sound studios and he used to have upstairs 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:15.400 or I used to have downstairs. And I used to 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:17.360 see Biggie. After the war report, I used to see 1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:19.960 biggie like almost every day I'm working on in R. Yeah, 1:21:21.600 --> 1:21:25.240 and uh friend of mines. He was my manager at 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:29.599 the time. I believe Martin Maure, Martin Moore from Martin 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:35.760 Moore from yeah, OK, because that's part of my We're 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:38.599 gonna get to that I used to when I was fourteen. 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:45.160 People don't realize the skit. So he discovered me. He's 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:48.599 gotta got me signed. But Martin Maure said to me, um, 1:21:49.040 --> 1:21:51.160 he said, Yo, these dudes they up here, they're trying 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:53.679 to work with puff and so I was like, all right, cool, 1:21:53.760 --> 1:21:58.960 like I had the UMR had that hard the whole 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:03.760 album was done. Um. So he comes like yeah yeah. 1:22:03.840 --> 1:22:06.479 So he comes to sound on sound and he goes, um, 1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:09.360 and I just I just remember I met some dude 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:11.920 in Canada just now reminded me of for real. He 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:13.840 was trying to be for real, but he reminded me 1:22:13.920 --> 1:22:16.960 for real because his inner attitude, not not the attitude 1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:19.120 that he was trying to show me, but his inner attitude, 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:21.680 but for all actually came up to me and said, yo, um, 1:22:22.120 --> 1:22:25.760 nobody never listens to me. And I was like that 1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:28.519 was awkward, Like that was his first sentence, Like nobody 1:22:28.560 --> 1:22:30.559 Neames listened to me. The person that does is going 1:22:30.640 --> 1:22:33.040 to go through the roof, and I'm walking. I'm hot, 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:36.599 but I'm like something something in my body said, shut 1:22:36.680 --> 1:22:39.880 up and listen to this guy. So I listened and 1:22:40.000 --> 1:22:43.639 he goes the first person that listens to me, I've 1:22:43.680 --> 1:22:46.400 worked with other people. And then it said and then 1:22:46.439 --> 1:22:50.439 he started quoting Bloody Money to me, saying, and I 1:22:50.600 --> 1:22:52.600 was like, damn. I was like, alright, cool. You know 1:22:52.920 --> 1:22:55.080 I'm looking at him. He don't look like a Bloody 1:22:55.120 --> 1:22:57.759 Money type of guy. He's not supposed to be knowing 1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:01.720 that song off the album and get manut with war 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:06.639 Report that basement. I was just telling you about. That's 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:09.519 what I used to listen to component Oriegan war Report. 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:12.800 You're tiler. How old are you? Like nine hundred years 1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:16.439 because you got to save it. I'm forty this year 1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:23.040 and that year and then trying to out of forty. 1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:24.920 I can't wait to see the forty one. Feel like 1:23:25.000 --> 1:23:29.760 this is incredible. Yeah, he gave your five, but he 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:34.360 wasn't really what you like. He started thinking about doing 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:40.680 d whatever it is. Yeah, so yeah, let me just 1:23:40.720 --> 1:23:44.439 ask you. Every gonna get men's Men's club. Let me 1:23:44.479 --> 1:23:46.880 tell you some weird ship that happens. I'm real talk. 1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:48.559 I would like this herritt. I was with my girl. 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:50.720 We went to the pick up your girl. We took 1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:55.799 her let's make some your finger. It took her grandma 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:58.719 to the casino for mother to get grandma her grandma. Okay, 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:01.639 god bad because you know, to go play the joints. 1:24:02.360 --> 1:24:05.800 So I go to the bathroom and some dude I 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:09.240 think I think he's Jamaican. I think he's Jamaican. Did 1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:11.639 you know he had an accident. I couldn't place the accident. 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:14.080 It was somebody that could have been Canada. I don't know. 1:24:14.439 --> 1:24:16.880 I'm there, I'm washing my hands and the dude walks 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:19.320 in and he just looks at me and he said, 1:24:20.360 --> 1:24:27.200 you're not gonna die your beards That's what he said, No, 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:29.960 no my hands. At this point, no it would have been. 1:24:31.880 --> 1:24:36.240 And I said, h I don't like it. I don't 1:24:36.280 --> 1:24:37.760 like to die. I don't like none of that ship. 1:24:39.000 --> 1:24:43.360 He's like really but Matt like pencil like he's thinking 1:24:43.400 --> 1:24:46.000 because he was thinking, and he's older than me. I 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:49.160 could tell he's older than me. So I'm like, alright, 1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:52.200 cool is that? Because I'm out of here, bro. And 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:59.519 then he's like, it looks good man. I'm like you 1:24:59.640 --> 1:25:02.240 says his life that name. You gave him confidence and 1:25:03.320 --> 1:25:06.160 let his let his DoD just fade out, give him confidence. 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:09.000 He looked any crazy man. That's my story. So when's 1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:10.840 the last time you spoke to y'all? See Bay? I 1:25:10.920 --> 1:25:13.439 know that? Yeah, yeah, about about a month ago. I 1:25:13.520 --> 1:25:16.120 went out of South Africa. Hold on time, let's make 1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:22.320 some noise flaws on us one more time. I went 1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:24.360 out to see y'all seeing you went out there hang 1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:27.000 out with him Ferrari Shepherd and you know, y'all see 1:25:27.080 --> 1:25:28.880 Bay is you know he's a He's a beautiful dude. 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:31.519 Like this dude is like you know, he's like, you know, 1:25:31.600 --> 1:25:34.400 he's a Muslim and a lot of his um, a 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:36.080 lot of his music in his stands has to do 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:39.519 with incorporating Islam. I'm trying to figure out that living 1:25:41.000 --> 1:25:45.160 as a as a Muslim can come back to America. 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:48.559 I can't speak on this situation at this particular time, 1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:52.640 but um, I know that he he hasn't wanted to 1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:55.160 be in America for a long time. He doesn't want 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:58.240 to come out here. Yeah, regardless of his particular political 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:02.599 situation in South Africa, you know, as you notice here 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:09.080 in a minute and et still travel. Okay, Yeah, and 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:16.600 I think that I'm appalled because you know, um, he 1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:21.160 is somebody who exists completely and totally outside of the 1:26:21.320 --> 1:26:26.839 music business. He exists as an artist like the business. 1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:30.439 He exists as an artist, as a creative spirit, like 1:26:30.520 --> 1:26:32.800 the epitome of an artist. Like this is this is real? 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:36.280 Like this is real. Like I'm not Muslim. I would 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:39.920 tell you, I don't, you know, I respect Islam. I 1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:43.800 respect I respect um people, anybody who searched for truth. 1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:46.280 So what would you claim if somebody would ask you, 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:49.400 what would you I'm just me, you know, I recognize 1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:51.080 that God and all like that. If you recognize the 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:54.400 God in yourself, I recognize the God in you everything. 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:59.679 I'm every religion and I'm every gang too. Yeah, there's 1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:02.679 a lot of but that's how you gotta beever whoever 1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:06.720 I'm hanging with. I'm a vice lord. You of the car. 1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:10.040 You understand the craft, the theory of the one. He's 1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:13.519 every game, everything, everything everything you know. But but but 1:27:13.600 --> 1:27:15.920 this is how this sounds. This is out y'all seen bay, 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:18.599 Like I went out there and and he's I'm talking 1:27:18.640 --> 1:27:21.320 to him and he's quoting verses from the Koran and 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:24.479 not in South Africa, did you stay in huts? No? No, no, 1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:28.439 in South Africa's South Africa's the most developed countries. There's 1:27:28.439 --> 1:27:34.400 a W out there. No, there's no w. But this 1:27:34.520 --> 1:27:38.560 some nice hotels is some nice spots that I'm western. No, 1:27:39.000 --> 1:27:40.960 they got a whole different system, all right, can you 1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:46.360 name me one otherwise? South Africa is no Chaine. South 1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:50.040 Africa's though, change the chain hotels. You can go to Sheraton, 1:27:53.320 --> 1:28:02.280 I can. Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you can. You can 1:28:02.320 --> 1:28:04.879 get a Star Wars. They better not be four point Sheridan. 1:28:04.960 --> 1:28:06.760 That's a difference. That's a difference. I don't want to 1:28:07.080 --> 1:28:11.120 fourth point, but but both points that still, I'm gonna 1:28:11.120 --> 1:28:13.360 put you one to the to the boutique hotels into 1:28:13.439 --> 1:28:18.400 the official spots outside of You're very You're very rich, 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:21.400 I can tell by the way you just can you 1:28:21.439 --> 1:28:23.840 somebody hearing me? I'm not rich, I'm not ready. No, No, 1:28:24.360 --> 1:28:27.120 I'm a working class and c who figured out I've 1:28:27.160 --> 1:28:30.720 cracked the code. I've seen. That's now. You know what's 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:32.840 funny about you saying that when I when I say 1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:39.400 I'm a working class image. Listen, I'll tell you something. 1:28:39.400 --> 1:28:42.360 I see the damage. I knew he was gonna get drunk. 1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:45.040 He's my man. Yeah, he gets spent. You know that. 1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:49.080 I know he drinks for the same block. You know 1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:51.680 I said, when you been a nigger, said, man, I 1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:56.040 just stay in Europe. I get this money. He pulled 1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:59.800 out a passport that's looked like a phone book. My nigger, 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:03.880 let me explain. Let this nick a ju to damage 1:29:03.920 --> 1:29:07.840 to live in Berlin. Listen, I went to Berlin, Big 1:29:07.920 --> 1:29:11.960 up Berlin, grimy people. What specks that you go to? 1:29:12.040 --> 1:29:16.559 You see a post time, you see posted everywhere. Horn? 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:29.479 That horn is terrible one. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. J 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:32.840 in Berlin, I'm sorry. And that was we needed a 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:36.439 proper horn for you at that Berlin was gonna let 1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:38.560 them give you a fake horn. We're getting that. He 1:29:38.640 --> 1:29:41.960 getting that fucking that fucking tear down the war money. Yeah, man, 1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:45.680 I think the passport was like this. I went to 1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:47.840 the first time I went to South Africa. I went 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:53.360 with JA. I went with damage. You I'll be I'll 1:29:53.400 --> 1:29:55.960 be in certain countries. I'll be in like Croatia or 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:59.880 some ship I'll be in a club and tap me 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:06.599 the shoulder. I think live in Malmo. He lived in Malmo, Sweden. 1:30:07.160 --> 1:30:09.800 Malmo is the Malmo in a half hour from from 1:30:09.920 --> 1:30:12.920 copen Hagen, Denmark. If you go to Malmo, Sweden, you 1:30:13.200 --> 1:30:16.320 hang out with j ro alcoholics. But this is a 1:30:16.400 --> 1:30:19.680 fraternity of working class room ceas that are all over 1:30:19.720 --> 1:30:21.400 the world. I know where all they at. I know 1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:23.360 I know where they ad. I travel the world. I 1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:27.760 see him j row Uh, what's your man, eldest sense 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:32.879 safe artifacts? That's another one. That's another one. Master aces 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:37.280 in Italy right now, Master as Marco Polo in Italy 1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:47.080 right Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio 1:30:47.120 --> 1:30:51.280 and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment and more. 1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:55.920 Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink 1:30:56.000 --> 1:30:59.600 Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d j F. 1:31:03.080 --> 1:31:05.360 Why they like y'all revolution because like I would to 1:31:05.439 --> 1:31:09.000 consider you a revolution every activist hip hop type of guy. Right. 1:31:09.680 --> 1:31:12.760 But like your biggest crowds as white people. Yes, that 1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:15.439 happen because white people have money and they can afford 1:31:15.479 --> 1:31:18.559 to come to the concert. They afford. Niggers the hood 1:31:18.600 --> 1:31:21.080 don't have money. They can't go to concerts. They're just 1:31:21.160 --> 1:31:23.280 be in the hood. White people be like they look 1:31:23.320 --> 1:31:25.320 in the village Voice and they look in the in 1:31:25.400 --> 1:31:26.800 the time out in New York and they'll be like, 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:28.280 I want to go to concert. I have some extra 1:31:28.320 --> 1:31:30.519 money to spend. I'm gonna go to concert. I like 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:36.720 Tyler Corlin's a good choking. But you know that's that's 1:31:36.720 --> 1:31:42.240 a good thing. Who has please, that's a good thing. 1:31:43.160 --> 1:31:47.680 Because hip hop music is folk music. It don't matter 1:31:47.720 --> 1:31:54.679 if you're white, black, Jupiterian. You know what I'm saying, Jupiter, 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:57.800 I'm speaking Jupiterian. I'm with you. Let me get a 1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:02.960 five people federations under that sounds right up, Noriega language. 1:32:03.080 --> 1:32:06.920 I'm using it up, Terry, go ahead, continue. Hip hop 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:10.040 speaking the language that people speak right now. What I'm 1:32:10.080 --> 1:32:12.559 saying so hip hop the reason hip hop is united 1:32:12.640 --> 1:32:16.200 more cultures than any music and than any music. Hip 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:19.760 hop has united more cultures than any force anything in 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:23.760 the history of the planning. More white people, black people, 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:27.040 brown people, yellow people, read people get together over hip 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:30.519 hop music than anything. You know what I'm saying. Because 1:32:30.600 --> 1:32:33.160 hip hop speaking the language that we're all speaking and 1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:35.559 speaking the language is going on right now. So when 1:32:35.640 --> 1:32:37.560 Nori came out, like what what what what what what? 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:40.240 That's what niggas was on the street saying at the time. 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:45.040 That's what nigga was saying. And whatever niggas is saying 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:48.679 right now, whether it be Panda or whatever and whatever 1:32:48.840 --> 1:32:52.080 whatever is going on, that's what's happening right now, and 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:55.280 then make it make it to a record. Country music 1:32:55.400 --> 1:32:58.840 is like that. Folk folk music is like what it 1:32:59.080 --> 1:33:00.519 was like that, but folk usic it is not a 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:02.320 popular art form like it was in the seventies, you 1:33:02.360 --> 1:33:04.240 know what they're like. But country music is like to 1:33:04.280 --> 1:33:08.800 be besides country music. And I don't country music. I'm 1:33:08.800 --> 1:33:11.839 not a country music fan, but I recognize real recognize 1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:13.519 really you know what I'm saying that the country music 1:33:13.600 --> 1:33:17.040 is about struggle. It's about white people struggle, American big 1:33:17.120 --> 1:33:21.920 storytellers in the music. It's beautiful and it's it's similar 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:24.519 to hip hop in that regard. But hip hop is 1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:27.360 our ship. What I'm saying, hip hop is our ship. 1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:32.240 Golf Brooks and the niggas, yeah, they gotta struggle. That 1:33:32.320 --> 1:33:35.120 country music that's Golf Brooks. That's country music right horse 1:33:35.160 --> 1:33:39.680 right away. Yeah, Like I mean, like it's definitely their 1:33:39.840 --> 1:33:42.599 version of reality. You know what I'm saying, Country Muic. 1:33:43.200 --> 1:33:44.840 It's music. I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna keep 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:46.960 it all the way you wonna keep it all change. 1:33:47.439 --> 1:33:51.040 It's music made by uneducated people there. And I'm not 1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:54.240 saying uneducated as a judgment. He was about to take 1:33:54.280 --> 1:33:57.280 some of that Dame Dash Whiskey by the way, people 1:33:57.640 --> 1:33:59.680 you people out there and let people know we got 1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:03.920 day Dash Whiskey on the table, yes, representing for you 1:34:05.840 --> 1:34:11.760 that Now, now even let me feel you get into that. 1:34:11.840 --> 1:34:15.920 Let me just qualify my statement before. But I say uneducated, 1:34:15.920 --> 1:34:18.200 I'm not meaning the disk. I mean people that don't 1:34:18.200 --> 1:34:22.160 receive the standard westernized traditional education. You know what I'm saying, 1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:25.519 Like niggas might have dropped out of high school, but 1:34:25.640 --> 1:34:28.880 it's still run the world. Bill Gates didn't graduate from 1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:30.720 college but still made a lot of money. You know 1:34:30.760 --> 1:34:33.320 what I'm saying, Like when I say uneducated, uneducated, it's 1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:35.439 not a judgment. But there's white people in the South 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:39.160 that didn't have the traditional education. You know, I'm saying, 1:34:39.200 --> 1:34:42.000 like even the term niggad, like even if we're niggas 1:34:42.040 --> 1:34:47.479 to political for us quick real quick. Even the term 1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:51.080 niggad was white people not understanding how to pronounce the 1:34:51.160 --> 1:34:55.800 Spanish were negatro negative. Say niggad, it becomes it was 1:34:55.880 --> 1:35:01.360 niggra negative south sain right, right, So as they did, 1:35:01.439 --> 1:35:04.120 it became nigger over time. That's where the word nigger 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:07.879 comes from. It comes from not having a Western standardized education, 1:35:08.400 --> 1:35:10.680 you were saying. So when I say un educated, it's 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:14.040 not the dis nobody. So okay, all right, so now 1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:18.160 we heard a room on that Kanye. I think Kanye's 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:21.000 first feature was like with you? Is that correct? Yeah? 1:35:21.000 --> 1:35:23.120 I used to with Kanye back in the days. Wait before, 1:35:24.080 --> 1:35:26.080 Does that mean you don't sunk with them? Now? Yeah? 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:30.640 I'm a I'm a Kanye West fan. What was the 1:35:30.720 --> 1:35:33.080 first time you met met Kanye? The first time I 1:35:33.160 --> 1:35:35.479 met Kanye Um, I was working on my quality album 1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:38.920 that I'm not get bias on. I was in Platinum 1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:43.320 Platinum studios. He came through No Idea or Platinum Mine 1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:49.639 of studios. You still own that. It's like, that's Platinum studios, 1:35:49.720 --> 1:35:53.320 that's platinum. Okay. So what student's Latinum island? Which was 1:35:53.439 --> 1:35:59.960 Ken Duro Eiffel Duro? Right, Douro used to be the 1:36:00.000 --> 1:36:02.720 I had an engineer at Platinum Island. Platinum Island was 1:36:02.840 --> 1:36:05.960 in the same building or across the same next door 1:36:06.000 --> 1:36:12.280 to room was next door to Rookoes downtown, right right, 1:36:13.080 --> 1:36:16.599 thank you. I'm working in Platinum Island Studios. Uh huh, 1:36:17.200 --> 1:36:20.080 and Kanye West come through the door. Now. I'm doing 1:36:20.120 --> 1:36:22.439 a session from a quality album, and I'm winning the 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:24.560 most deaf to show up because most of we have 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:26.960 a song on my quality album called Joy. I'm wrapping 1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:28.640 about my kids and my kid's birth, and most def 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:30.400 is on it. I took him a long time to 1:36:30.479 --> 1:36:32.360 record this verse. By this time, he was doing movies. 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:34.160 He was blowing up. So I'm trying to get in 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:35.680 touch on it was hard to get in touch room. 1:36:36.640 --> 1:36:38.639 Kanye come through the door. I never seen this Nick, 1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:40.639 never heard this Nick. He said, I'm here to meet 1:36:40.680 --> 1:36:44.640 most deaf. I said, well, guess what. He might not 1:36:44.720 --> 1:36:47.280 show up, But who are you? He said, most have 1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:49.360 told me to meet here? Meet him here. I got 1:36:49.400 --> 1:36:53.280 some beats, I said, play me the beats. We're gonna album. 1:36:54.000 --> 1:36:56.479 Kanye played me the Beasts. Every beat that Kanye played me, 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:58.439 he played me for beasts at night. All the beats 1:36:58.439 --> 1:37:01.559 made into my album that makes noise for Kanye being 1:37:01.600 --> 1:37:07.680 a savage all I said, yo, I said, who I said, now, 1:37:07.840 --> 1:37:10.200 then beats you Nigga. That that's that's why he got 1:37:10.240 --> 1:37:13.240 an ego, because Nigga came in. He pitched you for you, 1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:17.439 bought for y'all living for from now blue. Every time 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:21.120 ain't doing anything fucked up, we blame make some noise 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:26.719 for the reason. I can't believe how good these beats 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:29.360 was because I had never heard of him. So I'm like, 1:37:29.400 --> 1:37:31.240 how have I never heard of you and your beat 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:34.160 of this quality? He told me, he said, I did 1:37:34.240 --> 1:37:41.720 beat on uh d I Angeletti album. Yeah, I did 1:37:41.760 --> 1:37:46.479 beat on Jamaine dupri album four two. I did beat 1:37:46.600 --> 1:37:48.759 on Beatie Seagull. He told me he did the Truth 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.920 and then the Reason Truth, all that, all that Beatie 1:37:51.920 --> 1:37:54.600 Seagull ship. But he said that. That's when I was like, 1:37:56.000 --> 1:37:58.800 play me some ship. So he did the Gorilla Manshoe rap, 1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:00.639 the good to You to get by all that ship 1:38:00.760 --> 1:38:04.120 on the Quality album, and um, I just was. And 1:38:04.200 --> 1:38:06.559 then when I went on tour, Common was on tour 1:38:06.680 --> 1:38:11.519 doing Electure circus. I was open to act. Kanye was like, 1:38:11.600 --> 1:38:13.880 I'm trying to get my music out there. Niggas ain't 1:38:13.880 --> 1:38:15.960 sucking with me. I said, I said, come on toward me. 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:18.960 He came on toward me. He came out every every 1:38:19.000 --> 1:38:21.720 way way you brought Kanye. When you listen to make 1:38:21.800 --> 1:38:28.040 some noise for to live bringing, Oh yeah, if I 1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:31.120 ain't my nigga, Tyler, he's too humble to say that, 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:33.040 I'm gonna say it for him. You listen to the 1:38:33.120 --> 1:38:35.120 last you ever heard of? Take a bone? Yes I have, 1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:39.040 I know about. You're not gonna take a shot? Were 1:38:39.560 --> 1:38:42.760 even New York City and I'll take a shot. Hold on. 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:45.960 We're gonna let you finish your story first. We need 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:50.240 more and more Kanyeum, you break it down, We're gonna 1:38:50.240 --> 1:38:53.360 do the last. He break it down, he said, He 1:38:53.439 --> 1:38:56.800 said Tyler Quality brought me on tour, perform on the 1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:58.679 tour and ship like. Did he say that? He said 1:38:58.680 --> 1:39:00.960 that on the last on the song College drop Out. 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:03.479 He explained the whole story. I brought him on tour. 1:39:03.640 --> 1:39:05.920 Did you know he was crazy from the beginning? Oh listen, 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:08.360 I was when Kanye West, when I first met him out, 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:10.479 I said, hold on, y'all, hold on Nick and played 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:13.160 me Jesus walks. When I first met the wait the 1:39:13.200 --> 1:39:14.840 first day you met him, and he probably the first day, 1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:19.240 maybe the first month or so or lyrics done. This 1:39:19.400 --> 1:39:22.160 is four or five years before she came out. Didn' 1:39:22.200 --> 1:39:24.960 nig played me? He played me Dear Mama, not Dear 1:39:25.040 --> 1:39:30.000 Mama to Hey Mama, La La la la. I said, 1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:32.200 I haven't heard nothing so beautiful in my life. He 1:39:32.280 --> 1:39:34.519 played me that, He played me Jesus Walks, I said, 1:39:34.880 --> 1:39:37.840 and it was the version that out this. This is 1:39:37.920 --> 1:39:41.800 before he had a deal, before College drop out. He 1:39:41.920 --> 1:39:45.120 played me Jesus Walks. He played me a bunch of 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:47.160 a bunchet of those songs, a bunche of those songs. 1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:50.320 But I remember Jesus Walks and the Hey Mama. I said, 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:52.320 you need to put these ships out now. He said, no, no, no. 1:39:52.960 --> 1:39:55.519 That's when Nigga said, he said, my first album is 1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:57.280 before he had a deal, no deal. I want to 1:39:57.360 --> 1:39:59.040 do what he wanted to do. He said, my first 1:39:59.080 --> 1:40:02.400 album is called College ramp Out on the songs. My 1:40:02.479 --> 1:40:05.800 next album is called Late Late Registration. That the that 1:40:05.920 --> 1:40:09.120 Jesus Walks and I mean the Hey Mama. That's gonna 1:40:09.120 --> 1:40:13.360 be a late registration Jesus Walks walks. It's gonna be 1:40:13.400 --> 1:40:18.920 my Jesus Walks was calculated from college dropout. But when 1:40:18.960 --> 1:40:20.800 he put it out, Jesus Walks with a single, he 1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:23.240 says it on the song, this is my single. Dog 1:40:23.360 --> 1:40:28.120 radio knees this. He says it on the song. And 1:40:28.240 --> 1:40:30.920 you knew, and you knew, like did you know he 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:33.400 was a genius who you just knew? I couldn't to 1:40:33.479 --> 1:40:37.360 be real with you because niggas used assent tell him 1:40:37.360 --> 1:40:42.840 who everybody. Kanye had the hot beats, but niggas he 1:40:42.920 --> 1:40:45.439 was trying to sell himself as an artist, and niggas like, 1:40:45.520 --> 1:40:47.120 we want your beats. But and I used to be 1:40:47.200 --> 1:40:48.559 like he used. He used to be on the tour 1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:51.080 bus with us. He used to be rhyming. And he's 1:40:51.160 --> 1:40:54.160 wrong all the time. Every and you coming to the room, 1:40:54.560 --> 1:40:56.240 somebody knew coming to the room. He kicked the wrong 1:40:56.320 --> 1:40:57.920 like I say, I kicked around for you, somebody new 1:40:57.960 --> 1:40:59.760 coming to room. He kicking the round again for the 1:40:59.800 --> 1:41:03.599 new right. He was geting annoying in sometimes it's annoying. 1:41:03.600 --> 1:41:06.720 It's thirsty, thirsty, right, thirsty right, but he was he 1:41:07.000 --> 1:41:09.360 had no bounce, but he knew he was going. He 1:41:09.640 --> 1:41:13.800 knew he was going. Sometimes being thirsty. He needs listen. 1:41:13.840 --> 1:41:15.680 When we did we was you know my team, we 1:41:15.760 --> 1:41:18.479 did the street team for death Jen Rockefeller. Stop that 1:41:18.520 --> 1:41:21.280 stop that stop that time. And so I'm gonna stop 1:41:21.320 --> 1:41:23.200 passing you a week, keep giving it away? What was 1:41:23.200 --> 1:41:24.880 I mean? I'm an interview moved you come on me? 1:41:24.920 --> 1:41:27.720 And what was he had the joints? When he had 1:41:27.760 --> 1:41:30.240 the when he got into the wire through the wire, 1:41:30.360 --> 1:41:32.920 that was it with? What was was homegirl? On in 1:41:33.080 --> 1:41:37.839 those school ghokan? Wait? Wait, hold on? Hold on? Nobody 1:41:37.920 --> 1:41:41.920 asked for shots to take a bone. Hold On said, 1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:46.000 I come on, did you say I gotta make an 1:41:46.000 --> 1:41:49.160 appearance at a club? We hadn't show a video right now, 1:41:54.880 --> 1:41:59.120 I gotta give my Kanye story. It's my one and 1:41:59.160 --> 1:42:01.720 a half Kanye story. Because this is gonnaun everybody like that. 1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:04.880 Did we drink this? Don't drink water water? We don't 1:42:04.880 --> 1:42:10.120 like water to drink Champs water because I do drink water. 1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:14.679 What I get some water? We got water here water? 1:42:14.800 --> 1:42:22.759 Then with extra HP real real drink real, drink champship 1:42:22.800 --> 1:42:24.479 because this is how you really do a drink Champs. 1:42:24.680 --> 1:42:27.800 You drink water so you can keep drinking. Let's make 1:42:27.880 --> 1:42:34.559 some noise to live, try and be smart. There's nothing 1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:37.200 smart about this shot me about to take. I'm gonna 1:42:37.200 --> 1:42:40.120 just throw it out there. You gotta tell your story. 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:42.439 The story is whack now, by the way, But why 1:42:42.800 --> 1:42:45.880 were doing We did the promo shot. Gigs was not here. 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:50.400 We did Deaf Jam, Rockefeller water gone water going. Don't 1:42:50.439 --> 1:42:52.880 take that shot? Ye, don't take that shot. I got 1:42:53.000 --> 1:42:56.360 drunker a yeah, but I think you should take the 1:42:56.400 --> 1:42:59.840 water off the drink champs. How to do it? Drink 1:43:00.160 --> 1:43:03.280 when I was drink and drink water, bro, I'll the 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:09.479 Gaumelet all right, cool wisdom. We need to be hydrated, man, 1:43:09.560 --> 1:43:11.240 so we can keep drinking. I'm gonna let you get 1:43:11.280 --> 1:43:13.960 away with this right now. Man, you I want you 1:43:14.040 --> 1:43:16.280 to drink water because I care about you. You know what. 1:43:17.240 --> 1:43:19.920 I can't the whole toy. There was like three people 1:43:19.920 --> 1:43:23.519 who just said then they can't drink water. I'm just 1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:27.760 landed and just like my story, go ahead, get to 1:43:27.840 --> 1:43:31.360 it's the story is white now. But you just for 1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:34.360 got your story. No, no, I don't. I was doing this. 1:43:34.560 --> 1:43:36.840 I was the street team manager from Miami for Deaf 1:43:36.920 --> 1:43:41.920 Jam and Rockefeller, and nobody believed in Kanye at Rocket right, 1:43:42.640 --> 1:43:46.519 so they did not. He leaked that record to remember that, 1:43:46.720 --> 1:43:50.120 and then he paid for the video head for the 1:43:50.200 --> 1:43:52.479 radio promotion and he has look at that. Nick is 1:43:52.560 --> 1:43:54.360 changing the rules for you. They got water and ship. 1:43:55.240 --> 1:43:58.840 I'm gonna water ruining my story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1:43:58.840 --> 1:44:03.080 I out to talk of ball ahead. So he leaked 1:44:03.120 --> 1:44:10.080 the record what he lived, and he went to the 1:44:10.200 --> 1:44:11.679 he went to the he went to the Mix Shore 1:44:11.720 --> 1:44:16.479 Power summit in Puerto Rico. I was and we performed it. 1:44:16.600 --> 1:44:19.360 Commen was then most of them and at the windhom 1:44:19.840 --> 1:44:23.719 Resort in Puerto Rico Rio del Mar. He's still ruining 1:44:23.760 --> 1:44:29.479 my story. Yeah, we forgot you, so hold me. He 1:44:29.840 --> 1:44:35.120 organized out of pocket. He told all the reps. Wait, wait, 1:44:35.120 --> 1:44:38.840 hold on, hold, I'm sorry, Jesus Christy. I'm talking about 1:44:38.840 --> 1:44:40.960 Michael and the song with jay Z and Kanye and 1:44:41.040 --> 1:44:44.720 the song when they say uh DJ and Puerto Rico 1:44:44.800 --> 1:44:49.479 for three days though, that's what you're talking about. Get 1:44:49.520 --> 1:45:02.280 your story. I'm trying to be right. Continue. So you 1:45:02.439 --> 1:45:05.080 organize the conference call and he gets on the call 1:45:05.160 --> 1:45:08.439 and it's Kanye the way we know Kanye. He said, 1:45:08.760 --> 1:45:11.280 must it is hot and he to take it to 1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:15.240 the radio I'm coming to every market, be ready and 1:45:17.439 --> 1:45:21.400 to nobody knows. Look how he liked the way he 1:45:21.520 --> 1:45:27.360 thinks that he came on my Let's make some noise. 1:45:27.439 --> 1:45:34.240 Toland reve we all got mad respect for kan Yea, 1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:36.760 I have way more respect. I don't know why the 1:45:36.840 --> 1:45:40.960 table just moved, moved that whatever you got super hero 1:45:41.240 --> 1:45:44.720 straight drinking this crazy? Alright, listen, all right, listen, I'm 1:45:44.720 --> 1:45:47.280 gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I don't think 1:45:47.320 --> 1:45:50.040 he was lying before. No, but no, I'm gonna be honest. 1:45:50.360 --> 1:45:53.679 I took a shot with this with Careress one after 1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:56.720 the show. That's impressive. After the show, he was my man. 1:45:56.920 --> 1:46:00.320 I did investigation on him, like you, I hate you 1:46:00.400 --> 1:46:02.760 straight up. You said you like Hennessy's like the dog, 1:46:02.840 --> 1:46:05.719 so I wouldn't. I said, whatever dog right? He said whatever? 1:46:06.160 --> 1:46:10.000 But I didn't, you know, Careress, I did a real investigation. Beef, 1:46:10.720 --> 1:46:13.679 what a relief? When were this poison? This product? Cease 1:46:16.040 --> 1:46:18.200 definitely took it to a different angle when I'm with that. 1:46:20.360 --> 1:46:23.240 I didn't with that as well. But I I studied 1:46:23.320 --> 1:46:25.599 Caress and I knew he liked it. My ties right, 1:46:26.080 --> 1:46:28.439 so we had the people ties, so we had to 1:46:28.479 --> 1:46:31.799 be at the It's like it just was my pleasure, 1:46:31.880 --> 1:46:34.320 like a person I grew up listening to, even though 1:46:34.320 --> 1:46:36.559 I'm from Queens. I told him the Criminal Mary album, 1:46:36.560 --> 1:46:38.920 It's the only two songs I couldn't listen to because 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:43.320 of my you know, loyalty, my loyalty if But now, 1:46:43.640 --> 1:46:46.280 so I do the investigation. I found out he likes 1:46:46.360 --> 1:46:48.200 my ties. We get the guys to make the best 1:46:48.280 --> 1:46:50.600 my ties in the world. We give him enough, we 1:46:50.720 --> 1:46:53.200 do it. So I had already run in my mind. 1:46:53.520 --> 1:46:55.880 I think we had a drunk Carress one and we 1:46:55.920 --> 1:46:58.120 had a drunk but I had one like in my 1:46:58.240 --> 1:47:00.479 mind it was like, this is Doe because it was interview. 1:47:00.680 --> 1:47:03.120 We had a little side step with the you know 1:47:03.240 --> 1:47:05.439 the way he answered it is okay, I've defended him. 1:47:06.520 --> 1:47:08.040 This is my brother. You know, I love him, and 1:47:08.120 --> 1:47:10.280 that's it's it's like my lyrical father, you know what 1:47:10.320 --> 1:47:14.120 I'm saying. But I did take the shot with Caro 1:47:14.240 --> 1:47:19.479 Arress after the podcast. Now with that being said, this 1:47:19.720 --> 1:47:23.120 is my during the podcast. No, it was after. Now 1:47:24.080 --> 1:47:27.479 we're doing a shot a tiger bone during the podcast. Now, also, 1:47:27.600 --> 1:47:30.519 I must warn you, when did we get sushi with 1:47:30.600 --> 1:47:34.639 this when I took the show with Caress, he's my idol. 1:47:35.840 --> 1:47:39.720 His next started sweat. I knew he was drunk. There's 1:47:39.760 --> 1:47:45.800 no way your next swat unless you're drunk. Ship when 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:49.320 you're next swat. So if our next sway, we're gonna 1:47:49.400 --> 1:47:53.720 end this interview early, all right, but we gotta yo. 1:47:53.840 --> 1:47:57.280 He hates this ship. Hey man, you know, listen, we 1:47:57.320 --> 1:48:00.559 gotta show you how we do this live on drink treat. 1:48:00.960 --> 1:48:03.360 I ain't gonna front. This chair is killed my sa 1:48:04.400 --> 1:48:06.800 I've been I've been trying to drill less. Feel like 1:48:06.840 --> 1:48:10.120 I was sitting on the poet. Let me tell you something. 1:48:10.400 --> 1:48:15.920 This podcast is ruining my career, everything, everything, everything, You 1:48:16.000 --> 1:48:18.639 know what. Somebody tweeting me the other day said, thank 1:48:18.680 --> 1:48:23.639 you knowing for sacrifices. You liver people's life. So liver man, 1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:25.840 that's my liver. All right, listen, So this is how 1:48:25.920 --> 1:48:28.559 we do it, all right. I think that was your drink. 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:33.080 I don't know which one who is who's drinking? You 1:48:33.160 --> 1:48:39.240 got to all right, you gotta take their glasses all 1:48:39.320 --> 1:48:42.080 just for this. Yeah, yeah, we gotta see you guys sideways. 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:44.960 This is Tiger Bone. Man. You're from New York City. 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:54.800 You know alright, respect, I used to I used to drink. 1:48:56.080 --> 1:49:03.240 This is three thousand, all right, I'm done. All right, everybody, 1:49:03.640 --> 1:49:08.679 come on you yea, where you at? Sunny? Your shot? 1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:10.600 Right here? There's your second shot. Okay, I'll take it 1:49:10.720 --> 1:49:19.240 right now, got it? That was not fair? Oh where 1:49:19.280 --> 1:49:26.920 my water? Holy Toledo's kid. This is disgusting, man, yo, 1:49:27.320 --> 1:49:32.920 But I even keep drinking his ancient tiny secret broy. 1:49:33.080 --> 1:49:35.639 Somebody gave me a water. They just oh here, Yeah, 1:49:35.680 --> 1:49:41.200 well you gotta take my ship. Yeah, man, gonna take 1:49:41.200 --> 1:49:43.840 another one toilet? You can't. You can't. That's your that's 1:49:43.840 --> 1:49:45.559 the other one. That's for the coach. I don't want 1:49:45.560 --> 1:49:46.960 to make sure that in my pocket and take it 1:49:47.000 --> 1:49:49.040 with for the coaches. For the coach. I don't take 1:49:49.040 --> 1:49:52.960 another one toilet. So now now I don't want to 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:55.439 stay standing now now, I want to stay standing to 1:49:56.200 --> 1:49:58.080 stand up there. Yeah, I'm gonna you can stand up. 1:49:59.840 --> 1:50:03.240 Do what happened. We'll be honest. I'm gonna sit down. 1:50:03.360 --> 1:50:07.800 So it's a stand up. It's okay. Right now, I'm 1:50:07.840 --> 1:50:10.960 a stand up and stand up to this ship. I 1:50:11.080 --> 1:50:16.360 told you, I told you all tag. Won't change your life, man, 1:50:17.680 --> 1:50:21.280 change your life. Everybody has a Tiger Bowl story about me. 1:50:21.360 --> 1:50:24.880 You noticed that when you don't see you, you made 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:27.040 a decision to become the tag boat guy about I 1:50:27.080 --> 1:50:30.160 don't know how that has happened. I don't know. Everybody 1:50:30.200 --> 1:50:33.760 has a type hole story. But you you made you did? 1:50:33.840 --> 1:50:36.080 I remember? I remember I crossed over to the dock 1:50:36.160 --> 1:50:38.200 side of the decision. He was like, I'm gonna talk 1:50:38.200 --> 1:50:41.519 about taking bone and every because it's different. You know 1:50:41.600 --> 1:50:44.320 what it is. It's you legal, That's what it was. 1:50:44.720 --> 1:50:51.559 It was it was, but it was the original Anori mystique. Yeah, 1:50:51.680 --> 1:50:58.479 it was illegal. It's like smoking, like, it's like smoking beats. 1:51:00.000 --> 1:51:02.000 Try to buy a pack of Khalil's Beatis hold on 1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:05.240 the tib did you say beanies? Beaties? The little the 1:51:05.320 --> 1:51:12.080 little battom ship After after not eleven, they banned Khalil's Beatis. 1:51:12.640 --> 1:51:17.560 Let me used to be they had an association with 1:51:17.840 --> 1:51:21.479 like some sort of organization. Yeah, so they banned them ships. 1:51:21.479 --> 1:51:22.960 Remember we used to buy them ships in the hood 1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:28.040 and then one day you couldn't not eleven story? What 1:51:28.560 --> 1:51:31.880 do you google? It's taking let's take one shot taking 1:51:31.920 --> 1:51:38.160 ball cock. No, let's just listen. I'll take another shot. 1:51:38.200 --> 1:51:41.120 Of taking bone after I work tonight because I still 1:51:41.160 --> 1:51:42.720 gotta work. No, no, this is that was like a 1:51:42.800 --> 1:51:45.200 prince's answer. You've been hanging the prince way too much. 1:51:45.760 --> 1:51:48.200 That was a prince answer. You got one shot right there. 1:51:48.200 --> 1:51:50.880 I'm gonna join you, not my shot. I don't claim responsibility. 1:51:51.040 --> 1:51:53.800 You did, you did? You picked up? That was a joke. 1:51:53.920 --> 1:51:55.760 That was when you pick up two shots to live 1:51:55.880 --> 1:51:58.400 you committed. That was a visual. That's like you you 1:51:58.479 --> 1:52:00.560 can't put the fried chicken back, like when you're in 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:03.639 the barbecue and you picked up two pieces of chicken 1:52:03.680 --> 1:52:08.200 at the black barbecue. That's a false equivalence that he got, 1:52:08.280 --> 1:52:10.160 he got way too he I don't even know what 1:52:10.280 --> 1:52:12.720 they were with that prepoly like, I don't know what. 1:52:13.080 --> 1:52:17.240 Come on, we're gonna do one more shot. See because 1:52:17.280 --> 1:52:21.040 the chicken you touch the drink is a plastic cup. No, 1:52:21.880 --> 1:52:23.960 I kind of get too smart on us. We can't 1:52:24.000 --> 1:52:27.240 let we can't let you get away with that. We 1:52:27.280 --> 1:52:28.920 can't let you get away with that. If I did 1:52:29.000 --> 1:52:31.599 my finger in it, or I drink it, it's pretty 1:52:31.680 --> 1:52:33.559 much the same when you grab it. Watch, I'm gonna 1:52:33.640 --> 1:52:35.719 join you. I'm gonna join you and I've been sucked 1:52:35.760 --> 1:52:38.200 up all day. You listen. Let me just say something, 1:52:38.360 --> 1:52:41.000 thank you for joining us to the chance we had 1:52:41.080 --> 1:52:44.280 care arrests, drink three shots. We just want you to 1:52:44.320 --> 1:52:47.880 have to remembut myself. Oh no, my bad, because your 1:52:47.960 --> 1:52:50.519 your clap was not aggressive at all when you wanted 1:52:50.520 --> 1:52:52.120 to listen. When you want people to clap to I'll 1:52:52.160 --> 1:53:04.640 let people to say, listen, is it. Let's make some 1:53:04.760 --> 1:53:07.360 noise for Tiler trying to get a soft clap out 1:53:07.400 --> 1:53:09.240 of the drink chaps. We don't do that over here. 1:53:10.000 --> 1:53:12.920 I'm gonna take one more shot with you. Yeah, I 1:53:12.960 --> 1:53:20.320 think that's Michaelas Actually, then that's great. That ba alright cool? 1:53:20.320 --> 1:53:24.519 You want me to help you out. That's the effect 1:53:24.560 --> 1:53:26.720 of moon shine. Yeah, this is this is this is 1:53:26.840 --> 1:53:30.479 Chinese moon shot. So listen. So how many how many 1:53:30.520 --> 1:53:34.360 listeners y'all got at this point, were approaching three millions, 1:53:34.400 --> 1:53:36.800 were approaching three million. In April we had two point 1:53:36.840 --> 1:53:40.559 two millions. So let's make let's make some noise, right 1:53:41.280 --> 1:53:45.920 we are talking about that one whatever half a million 1:53:45.960 --> 1:53:48.160 a week, you know what I mean? And three million 1:53:48.160 --> 1:53:51.000 people listen to this bullshit. That's why it's bullshit. Thank 1:53:51.040 --> 1:53:55.240 you so much, yo, telling five, you're absolutely absolutely right. 1:53:55.680 --> 1:54:00.880 I can't believe this bullshit. Bullshit. Listen, every time we speak, 1:54:00.960 --> 1:54:05.040 we make a podcast every time we speak. And then 1:54:05.160 --> 1:54:07.240 let me tell you something Nas told me ten years ago. 1:54:07.280 --> 1:54:09.800 I don't know why, like we was around like to me, 1:54:10.040 --> 1:54:12.680 Nas told me the internet was going to happen like 1:54:13.240 --> 1:54:17.000 it was something like we was in something with a 1:54:17.040 --> 1:54:20.320 black mask, please bridge. I don't know if that was 1:54:20.880 --> 1:54:25.320 equivalent to what I was thinking of, but but Na, Na, 1:54:25.640 --> 1:54:29.240 we sat and I actually a portfolio. I actually filmed it. 1:54:29.439 --> 1:54:32.400 It was for what what documentary? And I sat there 1:54:32.440 --> 1:54:34.800 when I filmed him and we just talked about like 1:54:34.920 --> 1:54:39.240 you know, no, no, no no, And he told me, 1:54:39.320 --> 1:54:41.880 he said, someday these people are gonna pay us for 1:54:41.960 --> 1:54:45.360 our conversation. I thought he meant the internet when the 1:54:45.440 --> 1:54:48.480 Internet got got involved in Twitter, I thought he meant that. 1:54:48.920 --> 1:54:51.080 But then years later, now I realized that he was 1:54:51.160 --> 1:54:53.240 telling me I was going to have this podcast at 1:54:53.280 --> 1:54:55.880 each number one and have millions of people listened to 1:54:56.440 --> 1:54:59.600 our bullshit together as a one because you know what 1:55:00.120 --> 1:55:03.240 hip hop, classic stories, what the people love, right, And 1:55:03.360 --> 1:55:07.400 I'm gonna with you. No no, no, She pick up 1:55:07.400 --> 1:55:09.120 the type of bone. If you could drink that type 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:11.360 of bone and drink that Hennessy, I ain't gonna lie 1:55:11.400 --> 1:55:14.080 you the hardest thing in Brooklyn and Nebraska, you know, 1:55:17.200 --> 1:55:19.840 and get more Hennessy and oh know that's water all right. 1:55:19.840 --> 1:55:21.680 If you can finish listen, I'm gonna keep it real. 1:55:21.920 --> 1:55:24.960 Let me drink funk everything else. You can drink this 1:55:25.520 --> 1:55:29.000 this shot of tyke a ball and then finish your Hennessy. 1:55:29.480 --> 1:55:33.200 You're the hardest. There's no Hennessy anywhere. No, no, no, 1:55:33.280 --> 1:55:38.600 don't finish that first. That's that's water, all right. He's 1:55:38.640 --> 1:55:43.240 getting ready. Alright, cool, cool, all right, Nebraska and Home 1:55:44.160 --> 1:55:47.800 and the Dakotas and Brooklyn and Day County, all right, 1:55:47.880 --> 1:55:55.440 so look and remember take your glasses them. Yeah, Christmas, 1:55:55.480 --> 1:55:57.920 I love it. I love it. I love it. Yes, 1:55:58.440 --> 1:56:02.640 I bone get if you gotta take your shot. No, 1:56:02.840 --> 1:56:13.840 it's like there, just stuck me out. Oh what can 1:56:13.880 --> 1:56:18.440 I get it? For? What's my fortune? We just drank 1:56:18.480 --> 1:56:21.720 cat urine ship. I should know jiu jitsu after I 1:56:21.840 --> 1:56:26.800 drink that ship. Man, Now, are you sure you still? 1:56:26.880 --> 1:56:29.520 And for this? I gotta work tonight. You can quit. 1:56:29.800 --> 1:56:33.160 You can quit, or you can finish your hand. I 1:56:33.200 --> 1:56:40.080 want to see if you're a real Brooklyn nigger right now. Yes, yes, 1:56:42.280 --> 1:56:44.040 I'm on the water side of day. Yeah, yeah, you're 1:56:44.080 --> 1:56:46.400 out of same plenty of water. But I'm gonna keep it. 1:56:46.440 --> 1:56:51.640 Read Hennessy and Tiger Bone. I don't remember them being 1:56:51.760 --> 1:56:58.360 friends ever. This podcast you usually last like this long. Yes, 1:56:58.760 --> 1:57:02.000 oh yeah, because you know, like I don't listen to podcast, 1:57:02.280 --> 1:57:08.120 we want you to to. He came in and he 1:57:08.200 --> 1:57:10.160 gave me us against this day. He said, I ain't 1:57:10.240 --> 1:57:16.280 listened to all the way I listen to the store. 1:57:17.360 --> 1:57:20.120 And I said thank you, because maybe he was in 1:57:20.200 --> 1:57:23.640 the game. Because right now we gotta he gotta work tonight. 1:57:24.040 --> 1:57:26.120 Pick up your video. You just shot a video. We 1:57:26.160 --> 1:57:28.360 want to pick that up. Man, Yeah, pick up my video. 1:57:29.320 --> 1:57:34.200 Good girls, good girls. Once again. I was doing the video. 1:57:34.200 --> 1:57:36.440 I had a conference call with him. Shout Alicia Keys 1:57:36.520 --> 1:57:39.040 and Rapsody and bust of rounds. He was on the 1:57:39.080 --> 1:57:42.080 conference call. I went to the I went to the 1:57:42.160 --> 1:57:44.680 White House. Wait, yeah, let's talk about that. I heard 1:57:44.680 --> 1:57:46.600 about you never go in the right house after you 1:57:46.760 --> 1:57:52.080 leave this. Let's hurry up at the White House. I 1:57:52.160 --> 1:57:55.600 heard what Major Keys or he dropped some gems that 1:57:55.680 --> 1:57:59.040 story got out. Yeah. Yeah, the ws A long went off. Yeah, 1:57:59.080 --> 1:58:07.080 let's make some noise for that. Godamn it. Yeah, that 1:58:07.280 --> 1:58:09.680 was the most Let me, let me I heard one story. 1:58:09.800 --> 1:58:12.360 Let me just heard one story about the White House. Please, 1:58:12.400 --> 1:58:14.760 everybody be quiet. I heard one story about the White House. 1:58:14.800 --> 1:58:17.200 I heard that. When back Obama got you all in 1:58:17.320 --> 1:58:20.240 the room, he said, some of y'all nigga's tax issues 1:58:20.320 --> 1:58:25.520 ain't right, and y'all might be that, and y'all might 1:58:25.600 --> 1:58:28.440 be arrested when you leave this property. Is that true? 1:58:28.720 --> 1:58:33.040 That's if he said that. Part one is true. Okay, 1:58:33.960 --> 1:58:36.320 part was not. He didn't say you will be arrested. No, 1:58:36.400 --> 1:58:39.760 he didn't say, but he said, proceed. You're in that story. 1:58:39.800 --> 1:58:43.880 He said, I'm gonna my accounting guys right here, man, 1:58:44.240 --> 1:58:49.960 he said, he said, called me Obama said, he said, drone. 1:58:50.040 --> 1:58:53.760 We're talking about criminal justice reform. By the way, Barack 1:58:53.800 --> 1:58:56.760 Obama has released like hundreds of people. Let's makes a 1:58:56.800 --> 1:59:06.280 noise with rock Obamas people. He asked c he has 1:59:06.360 --> 1:59:10.280 also used drones as a preemptive measure, So don't make 1:59:10.360 --> 1:59:13.040 no no notice for that. He doesn't it, Hey, man, 1:59:13.160 --> 1:59:15.040 listen to the job of the president. It is not easy. 1:59:15.200 --> 1:59:20.040 It is to maintain the status quo. But let's stop 1:59:20.080 --> 1:59:22.760 being serious, right right, let's go, let's get back for 1:59:24.400 --> 1:59:29.040 people want to laugh. We got to get serious. But 1:59:29.200 --> 1:59:31.080 but Rick Ross bracelet went off and that was that 1:59:31.200 --> 1:59:35.280 was that was great, and Obama said, Obama's and Rick 1:59:35.400 --> 1:59:39.360 Ross like a true Miami dude and the true Miami 1:59:39.440 --> 1:59:44.720 dude Rick Russ represented Miami. Wait, wait, no, this is 1:59:44.760 --> 1:59:50.760 all let's live. The beeping went off and Obama said, 1:59:50.800 --> 1:59:55.760 what is that? That was that? Obama, he don't know. 1:59:55.920 --> 1:59:57.920 He said, what is that? No one knew I heard it, 1:59:58.360 --> 2:00:01.040 No one knew what that was. And Rick Ross said, 2:00:01.920 --> 2:00:12.400 that's that criminal justice. Let's make some Louis shout out 2:00:12.440 --> 2:00:16.080 the city Obama brothers did to talk about criminal justice reform. 2:00:18.760 --> 2:00:21.720 Rick Ross was like I heard he walked in the 2:00:21.840 --> 2:00:24.600 room and he said a curse and they made everybody relaxed. 2:00:24.640 --> 2:00:26.840 He was like what he said something like now he was? 2:00:26.920 --> 2:00:29.920 He was? He was? He was? He was? He you 2:00:30.000 --> 2:00:31.200 know what he said. You know, I'm gonna tell you 2:00:31.240 --> 2:00:34.600 what he said. He said, he said, Tyler quality, I 2:00:34.720 --> 2:00:37.000 love I listen to music. I love listening to music. 2:00:37.040 --> 2:00:38.680 I listening to the White House and he looked at 2:00:38.720 --> 2:00:42.600 Asap Rocky. Right, he said, I love your music too, 2:00:42.920 --> 2:00:44.800 but I can't listen to it in in the house. 2:00:45.640 --> 2:00:50.560 I put my headphones on, like, yeah, we don't want 2:00:50.560 --> 2:00:52.960 another shot. Take a ball, right, We're done with that 2:00:53.400 --> 2:00:57.280 now he could do it. He wants no listen. I 2:00:57.320 --> 2:01:02.680 want to drink some of his Dame Dash good. Let's go, 2:01:04.520 --> 2:01:12.000 just go, Tyler quality. I can't thank you. I can't 2:01:12.040 --> 2:01:14.240 thank you enough. Man. I think we covered all grounds. 2:01:14.520 --> 2:01:17.360 Is there anything that you want to say, Tyler? Is 2:01:17.400 --> 2:01:18.880 there anything you want to say to the people? We 2:01:19.000 --> 2:01:21.920 got about like fourth people listening to us right now. 2:01:22.120 --> 2:01:26.800 People I want to say people, Yeah, don't drink what's 2:01:26.800 --> 2:01:37.280 the drink? Don't eat the yellow snow? Alright right right? 2:01:37.680 --> 2:01:40.800 Because and the gum under the table is not candy. 2:01:41.360 --> 2:01:44.440 The gum under the table is not candy. You're Tyler Crawley. 2:01:44.480 --> 2:01:47.120 You've been a great sport man. We really appreciate you 2:01:47.240 --> 2:01:49.360 because you know why, you so much positive. You're so 2:01:49.440 --> 2:01:52.600 much a hip hop activist. You're our version of Al 2:01:52.720 --> 2:01:58.920 Shopton without the ship. Now that's my nigger. Al Sharpton 2:01:59.040 --> 2:02:01.960 is a good dude, is it really? However, I am 2:02:02.080 --> 2:02:04.840 not no, no, no, I mean like you know what 2:02:04.960 --> 2:02:07.240 I mean by you know what I mean what I 2:02:07.360 --> 2:02:10.920 mean by that, I'm sorry, but not when you say no. 2:02:11.080 --> 2:02:13.760 But what I mean I get it is you you 2:02:13.880 --> 2:02:20.680 the guy, like yeah, when you knew it they called Michael, Malcolm, 2:02:20.800 --> 2:02:26.160 Max with all other people with all respect, that's who 2:02:26.200 --> 2:02:29.120 you are, for respect to them. Yeah, and I feel 2:02:29.120 --> 2:02:33.040 like I'm here the CBS ad coming in a train 2:02:34.120 --> 2:02:38.200 like CBS the train to listen. But I feel like 2:02:38.520 --> 2:02:43.000 you're the guy. I think that's whenever ye y'all sabotaged 2:02:43.120 --> 2:02:47.920 us last week, we understand y'all. Motherfucker Wilson. Yeah, let 2:02:47.960 --> 2:02:50.840 me just say this real quickly. Yeah, please, Elliott Wilson, 2:02:52.000 --> 2:02:54.320 you have a bunch of niggas that do not deserve 2:02:54.840 --> 2:02:59.880 interviews before Tyler Coley. I don't know where this is going, 2:03:00.280 --> 2:03:03.080 but I'm with you wherever you want to take when, 2:03:03.240 --> 2:03:06.440 wherever you want to take it, Elliot, I love Elliott. 2:03:06.840 --> 2:03:10.960 Why Elliott put on ra Raid not rap Radar. Gave 2:03:11.000 --> 2:03:14.400 me a lot of love, but rap Radar podcast, I've 2:03:14.440 --> 2:03:16.280 never been shots rap radar. They give me a lot 2:03:16.320 --> 2:03:18.680 of but all the way the little talks he'd be having, 2:03:18.960 --> 2:03:20.480 but I'm only saying this because I have a new 2:03:20.520 --> 2:03:22.880 album coming out, right. But he never put your on 2:03:22.960 --> 2:03:25.600 rap Radar podcast that the little Talks. He'd be having 2:03:26.400 --> 2:03:31.400 a little sund millions high five. But let's be clear, 2:03:31.600 --> 2:03:34.280 we didn't shout because you had a new album. Let's 2:03:34.560 --> 2:03:37.160 you are friends. Let's let me let me shout out. 2:03:37.720 --> 2:03:41.440 Kay Valentine, Um from Chicago were dropping her album voted media. 2:03:41.520 --> 2:03:45.400 Nico is. Nico is from Orlando, Florida. He was very excited, 2:03:45.720 --> 2:03:48.960 he said, he said, what you're doing, drink Champs. Nico 2:03:49.160 --> 2:03:51.720 hits me up. Nico was very excited. Now I was 2:03:51.760 --> 2:03:54.200 really cool. I was already excited to do drink Champs, 2:03:54.360 --> 2:03:57.640 but Nico made me more excited. Elliot Wilson, this is 2:03:57.680 --> 2:03:59.720 my nigga. You know what I'm saying, Like, listen, but 2:03:59.760 --> 2:04:02.480 he didn't want to accept. You know, let's keep it real. 2:04:03.160 --> 2:04:05.360 Let's just keep it real. You're saying he didn't want 2:04:05.360 --> 2:04:07.720 to accept. No, this is what I'm saying. I'm up 2:04:07.720 --> 2:04:10.760 again the Alligators as we are. We are capitalized with 2:04:10.960 --> 2:04:22.160 funk up. Elliott Wilson. Everybody you're telling you listen any 2:04:22.320 --> 2:04:26.560 times and be out and they don't answer you you 2:04:26.920 --> 2:04:30.920 know my phone still were wrapping. Yeah, we're raping. We're 2:04:30.960 --> 2:04:40.480 inside the NBA, were inside. Just DJ j I never 2:04:40.760 --> 2:04:48.720 never don't know what I'm saying. We wrapping. DJ can say, DJ, 2:04:52.120 --> 2:04:58.960 I gotta listen rocket for you. I mean, you're the 2:04:59.040 --> 2:05:03.000 rap problem, DJ Jeff will Smith. There we go shout 2:05:03.040 --> 2:05:06.560 out to be and el A Wilson. They important participants 2:05:06.720 --> 2:05:23.640 CONTU because up we always. I'm just saying that because 2:05:23.920 --> 2:05:25.880 I have a new album coming out and if I 2:05:26.000 --> 2:05:29.960 do interview on them, I get to promote my whatever. 2:05:30.600 --> 2:05:33.760 But but they didn't ask you to come on first, 2:05:34.000 --> 2:05:36.880 because he wants to interview people who have trends, but 2:05:36.920 --> 2:05:40.360 he don't understand that I'm making a trends telling. I'm 2:05:40.400 --> 2:05:44.480 wait bigger than you've been. We've been transcending ship forever. 2:05:44.720 --> 2:05:49.560 Niggad We had an apartment in South Africa. Nigga like 2:05:50.280 --> 2:05:53.160 my nigga like like this is the thing is like 2:05:54.280 --> 2:05:59.880 I interviewed legends. I interview people who know they used 2:06:00.000 --> 2:06:04.760 that word relevant. We don't need, we don't overhead, we 2:06:04.960 --> 2:06:10.280 make it. We use that word. Yeah, when you're not 2:06:10.400 --> 2:06:15.200 depending on the relevancy all that that dumb ship. Yeah, 2:06:15.240 --> 2:06:17.640 I don't want to. I don't know. I don't know 2:06:17.640 --> 2:06:27.520 how to do that. Don't just representative moment, priss. But 2:06:27.680 --> 2:06:30.840 YO was just whipping the names. Yeah, I was trying 2:06:30.840 --> 2:06:33.480 to win the name name Tyler. Listen, let me thank 2:06:33.520 --> 2:06:35.640 you man for coming through me in the NFL. You 2:06:35.720 --> 2:06:38.600 know we were tarded people. We're both in here together 2:06:39.240 --> 2:06:42.360 and we really want to thank you for coming here 2:06:42.480 --> 2:06:46.080 being a great sport. And you are drunk, drunk, and 2:06:46.320 --> 2:06:48.000 I came here in the tank top. This is the 2:06:48.000 --> 2:06:53.040 first time in my You like m a threst. You 2:06:53.120 --> 2:06:56.520 got mad tattoos, You're like a thrust. You don't want 2:06:56.560 --> 2:07:02.800 the Spanish games down where He's done with eighteen street games? 2:07:03.720 --> 2:07:06.480 What the I got locked out of my hotel? What 2:07:06.680 --> 2:07:08.960 the F? I just wi? I got a text while 2:07:08.960 --> 2:07:12.040 I was on your shotop ridding them Airbnbs come back 2:07:12.120 --> 2:07:15.400 to Stars. I'm back to Star. I got locked out, 2:07:15.600 --> 2:07:18.520 but now I got my clothes back. This makes some noise. 2:07:18.560 --> 2:07:25.840 Fam games close back. I'm gonna stop smoking this too. 2:07:26.520 --> 2:07:31.600 I'm tired of this. Is this the plastic greed? I'm done. 2:07:32.320 --> 2:07:34.200 I'm done. You know you don't remember why I handed 2:07:34.280 --> 2:07:40.280 the carrass Harro said stop car, no, no, No, Carross 2:07:40.320 --> 2:07:43.040 would have smoked up. No, he wanted to joint. Remember 2:07:43.160 --> 2:07:45.640 Carross wanted to join Tyler Quality. 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