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Speaker 1: right now, we have a legendary Brooklyn MC. He was

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Speaker 1: He's hip hop's first activists, that gangsters in the hip

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Speaker 1: He told that guy that was in seeing it, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to that later, that you're reporting on black

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Speaker 1: him intelligently and live to this day, people still don't

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Speaker 1: respect this guy's Don Lemons news reporting skills. Since that day,

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Speaker 1: it's been different from Mr. Le said, I had this

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Speaker 1: Ferguson and you're going out there. First off, just representing

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Speaker 1: about donal Lemon. But you didn't. You did it respectful?

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Speaker 1: How How did how did that translate? We get the

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Speaker 1: out there to represent for Michael Brown exactly. And one

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Speaker 1: have no regrets in life, but that we had to

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Speaker 1: actually to drink. Okay, well known sound little too. So

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Speaker 1: that is your bottom. That is your bottom, you know,

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Speaker 1: hens and sponsored some of the worst moments in my life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: type of record, but you know, ever since I've been

422
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: a business, know what I'm saying, Like you remember the

423
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: time he's in Larios. Yes, somebody came up to you

424
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Speaker 1: and ask you for you're using Larry like Gloria and

425
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: I we're drinking together, Like I'm like, Wow, the world

426
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: need to know tyl Live can have fun, you know

427
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because he makes so serious rackings. You know,

428
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: he's a political guy. It's great. That part is awesome.

429
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: That's what I represent. The Charis was my favorite rappers,

430
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: so you understand that I respect all that, but I'm

431
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: seeing him have a great time. So because a person

432
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 1: comes up to him and says, to live, I want

433
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: to do a joint with you, so I'm like, he's

434
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he's like, your nory, I want to

435
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: do a drink, I said. Tylerve Is, my new manager,

436
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: looked at me and was like fucked up. But he

437
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: went along with it, and you went right along. Let's

438
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: make some noise for going along with my found managing Norri. Now, yeah,

439
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't want to do a song with the dude,

440
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: so I seen him right there, so I live. But

441
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: people need to I think that that's that's one of

442
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 1: the greatest things is that when you know you like

443
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: like when people say, I don't know, this is fucked up,

444
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: But when people say Martin was fucking bit just on

445
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: the side, it's like everybody like, damn, that's funked up.

446
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: But it's like, nah, he's like human, like he was

447
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: fucking he was fighting every day for human rights. If

448
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to get a butt a nut on the side,

449
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: that they gonna laugh, man, make some noise for Martin.

450
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: He man Mason noise for Martin on the side. Come on, Martin.

451
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: Unnamed rapper told me this, and I'm not gonna blow

452
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: up his spot. This unnamed rapper told me this on

453
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 1: his first tour. He said, hey, man, all the prophets

454
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: that host because you know why, it shows that you're human.

455
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: The thing about preachers, the thing about the church, it

456
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work no more is because you see these people

457
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: and they got the gay, the shoes on, and they

458
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: got the they look so good and and they Charlottean

459
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: stuff and they show you no mistakes. So they show

460
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: you no mistakes, and why would somebody follow you, because

461
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, I never gonna be like you. I

462
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: have flaws. You understand what I'm saying. Like, so that's

463
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: why the when you when when you learn the story

464
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: about his flaws, when you learn about Malcolm flaws, when

465
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: you learn about Jesus flaws. You know what I'm saying.

466
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: When you when you read the books that are outside

467
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: of the Bible, outside of the King James version of

468
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: the Bible. When Jesus went to travel and you know,

469
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: to India, Oh yeah, I'm saying he gained knowledge from

470
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: all over the world. Supposedly. You know, I'm saying like

471
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: it had and had flaws. It was, it wasn't man,

472
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: but that you know that, that's what That's what makes

473
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: people able to relate. But Black stars such a legendary.

474
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: But before you go on to black because I was

475
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: are talking about Postinus Passengers. I went into the Renaissance,

476
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: I said, past my favorite day, I saw my favorite ship.

477
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: I rapped. Um, what do I do? He said, go

478
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: to Rush Artists Management around the corner on Elizabeth Street, right,

479
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: So I went around that. I went around the corner.

480
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: I go on the lobby. Tragedies there, Yes he was.

481
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: But first Search first, because you know, Search walked and

482
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: I met Search. I just I'm fifteen years old. I'm

483
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: at Search. This is when gas Face was. It was

484
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: like Tragedy walks in. I got a picture in my

485
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: house right now. Tragedy had the wild dreads on the

486
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Speaker 1: top of the fade on the side, he had the

487
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: little Malcolm ex spectacles, and he had like a raincoat on.

488
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: And this is Maaket. Tragedy sat there and talked to

489
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: me for two hours. You know what I'm saying, like

490
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: he was the first. This is a real story that

491
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: you're hearing on drink Champs. Tragedy was the first rapper

492
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: that showed me love. Tragedy was the first famous. He

493
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: was the first first, that's right. But you don't know

494
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: me from from He just started giving me advice on

495
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: the industry for me and all that. We sat with

496
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: Elizabeth in Houston for two hours watching the people walk by.

497
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know why he had the time. Not

498
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know who the next person is. Sometimes it's

499
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: just energy, you know what I'm saying, Just a look

500
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: at that? Look at that? So you're hot tag? Yeah

501
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: no, no no, let's get back first the last two yet

502
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: black Star because you know why you know, um uh

503
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: black Star such a legendary thing that you guys did, like, um,

504
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: this is the first time in history we were presented

505
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: a group first and then you guys did solo ship

506
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: and y'all just never got back. Yeah it's not accurate, Yes,

507
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: yeah it is. It is. You know, black Star me

508
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: and most Death with solo artists, and we we had

509
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: styles that complimented to each each other. We're fans of

510
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: each other. Um, we talked casually about doing a group.

511
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: Were both signed to Ruckus. Jared and Brian. You know,

512
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: they sort of vision and they was like, Okay, let's

513
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: do a black Star. At the same time, most Death

514
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: was like, let's do this black star situation rockt sort

515
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: at the same time. So it converged, and he was

516
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: working on a TV show. He was working in the

517
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: movie I Forget Which movies forever. He was walking on

518
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: the movie after time he was saying, this is when

519
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I knew I can't act for Ship. Listen, let me

520
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: just tell you something. This is when I knew I

521
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: can't act for Ship. I've seen that nigger play a

522
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: doctor and I believed him. And then I'm gonna tell

523
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: you when I knew most was done when I seen

524
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: him when I watched Monster's Ball, Master's Ball and this

525
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: is my nigga and I'm spending every day with and

526
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I watched for thirty minutes and I said, that's most

527
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: st Yeah, That's how I knew I can't. What do

528
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: you think that the TV played Bury in the in

529
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: the Cadillac Records movie, You ever saying what Beyonce? And

530
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: he was wearing his hair and talking and acting like

531
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: a dressing like Chuck Berry around us, But he didn't

532
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: tell us that he was doing a movie, so I

533
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: thought he didn't. He was just losing his mind. What

534
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like he was a cactus trading his hair.

535
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: He had the outfits, he was talking and that. When

536
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: I saw the movie, I said, Okay, did he go

537
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: to acting school? No, he just a dude from bed

538
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: Star who got who got talent? You know, shout out

539
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: to Umi and Abbi. They saw enough to make sure

540
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: that he had the opportunities and present him with the opportunities.

541
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: So so, but when you guys did the Black Star album,

542
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: did you did you? Did you? Did you understand how

543
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: big like the culture was gonna gravitate towards that or

544
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: I think we just a moment had a lot to

545
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: do with Vinyl. Brokers was putting out Vinyl and the

546
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: dj the DJs were craving Vinyl. Let me just tell

547
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: the people, okay, people, Vinyl is the record. It's a

548
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: record you put it on. It's fools around, It's not

549
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: a stream, you know. Uh, real DJs used to cut

550
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: it back, bring it back. Your mom's got it in

551
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: your house. Your mom's got it in your house somewhere.

552
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: Your mother has any I'm sorry, alright, alright, Rakers was

553
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: putting out vinyl for people, for hip hop fans that

554
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: was starved for vinyl, and that's part of the Rooker's

555
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: business plan. That's how they blew up because a lot

556
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: of the DJs, we're pushing back against the move away

557
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: for vinyl. You had big companies like Bad Boy that

558
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: was putting out great quality pop mainstream hip hop, but

559
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: they wasn't serving the DJs with the vinyl. They was

560
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: trying to move away from it. You go to Tower

561
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Records or whatever. Back in days you couldn't buy vinyl.

562
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Rockets would put out BAM's Deck, Sermenteli Company Flow, most

563
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: deaf probably vinyl. You know what I'm saying that people

564
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: was the DJs would appreciate that Rukers was focused on

565
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: the DJ and they focused on underground hip hop and

566
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: focus on a certain sounds. So when they put out

567
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: The Black Star. I remember the Stress magazine. My man

568
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Clive down and you got to cover Stress. But it

569
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: was a graffiti writers that had that magazine and Broucs

570
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: did a collaboration with Stressed with Stress when they did

571
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: the vinyl on the cover. The vinyl for Definition was

572
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: on the cover of Stress attached to the magazine they

573
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: sent a copy to Funk Master to Flex. He loved it.

574
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: As a DJ. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

575
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: started my career working for Jessica rosen rose Ball, Yeah Funk.

576
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: I used to live in Flappers down the street. When

577
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: when CNN first Drop, When Nori with component Ariga first Drop,

578
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: I was working for Dress, Jessica rosenback John Foorte. John

579
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: is my best friend. At the time, Jessica was managing

580
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: John Forte. I was fourteen fifteen. Jessica Rosenbaum is a

581
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: party promoter in New York. She used to manage Master Flex.

582
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: But let me tell you, let me break it down.

583
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: She managed Master Flex before there was a Hunt on

584
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: the seven, there was a Hot Night said, but before

585
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Hot Night was a hip hop station, it was a

586
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: freestyle station. They used to play STEVB records like you

587
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Gotta the Leader. Something that side I mean I used

588
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: to do that club was that, let's keep it going

589
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: with base, home Base. I went to that home base,

590
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: the boom spot, the tunnel, this pre tunnel. When Jessica

591
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: got the tunnel, that was a cool Peter Gash. She

592
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: started worker Peter Gation. We're doing Limelight Tunnel I was

593
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: to fly it. You gotta tell him, We gotta tell

594
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: him with Lime Night because this is church. It was

595
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: a church, and the church was literally as a church

596
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: church and it closed down. They have a documentary. I

597
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a movie called Party Monster and

598
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: the Starting Start that's about this whole situation. I definitely

599
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: went to home Base. I didn't go there. Home base

600
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: was home base was. The home base was with Jessica's

601
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: hip hop ship. That's a house of paying there and

602
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: the ghetto girls. All right, So I used to know

603
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: so when you when you when you when you went

604
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: to that club, if you went to like like say

605
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: where else, Dominoes would have a record ghetto jam out.

606
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: I would post up the posters for Dominoes coming to town.

607
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: And I'm saying like that. I worked for Jessica like enough,

608
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: it was Flip Squad. It was funk Matter, flex Enough,

609
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: mad Way recipes by saying um d J Buddhaican did

610
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: the reggae you know what I'm saying, and and Bismarck

611
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: he was down for a second when he first started

612
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: his DJ ship. He was down with Flip Squad. I

613
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: used to hand out the flyers she managed John Forte

614
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Matter Flex. First record was with Non Double Lemons Man

615
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: from the Bronx or Nervous. The B side was a

616
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: record called the Boom Spot. Yeah, six Million Ways to Die,

617
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: the B side Nervous. The B side is John Forte.

618
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: Hold on for all these new guys listening, we all

619
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: get in getting real hip hope. So if you listen,

620
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: what was that I'm doing record? He just said, Nervous.

621
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: I used to put out the back that was John

622
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: black More down. Oh man, this is real hip hop

623
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: right now, get yours to get your googles continue. So

624
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: that that's my start in the business was with John Forte,

625
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: Master Flex and Jessica Rosi down because she was working

626
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: with Puff at the time. He was her partner at

627
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: the time. You know when when Flex you standard parties

628
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: at the Palladium. People up on Friday nights the Palladium.

629
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I've seen I've seen ice Que perform

630
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: at the Palladium with a Flex and King's Son came

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Speaker 1: out wicked and King Sun came out said, yo Que,

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Speaker 1: that's my soul that you stole. Yeah. Yeah, Like I

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Speaker 1: was there for I seen Tretch challenged Daylight Soul on

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Speaker 1: stage because he was mad because they had to record

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Speaker 1: when they said so stick to your nutty button, Natures

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Speaker 1: Tommy Boy, They're like classic moment. Yeah. I was at

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Speaker 1: the Palladium for all those funk Master Flex parties. Flex.

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Speaker 1: I was at some of them parties. I was usually

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Speaker 1: kicked out and I told you was doing yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So how about you in high tech right right? So

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Speaker 1: this is nice, like I'm in high school three. This

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Speaker 1: is when Jessic could do in this party. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I went to n y U. My wife, everybody piece

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Speaker 1: you god damage, You're coming out here to make sure

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Speaker 1: everybody's acting all right. Party. I went to n y

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Speaker 1: then I started working in the cub books. I was

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Speaker 1: doing these uh book show shows. These bookstore shows were

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Speaker 1: like Dead Prayers and Lord Jama and around nine went

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Speaker 1: to l A. I was friends with Mike and nine

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Speaker 1: for Freestyle Fellowship. He had moved to New York. He

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Speaker 1: was signed to Keytar Mask Keytar Entertainment. He moved to

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Speaker 1: New York. Keat I was working on D'Angelo and Erica

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Speaker 1: about doing Micah at the time hanging out with them,

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Speaker 1: and then I went to l A Tounk with him.

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Speaker 1: I caught a hitchhike to the day hold on time.

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Speaker 1: You're the first black man I ever heard you the

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Speaker 1: word hit. Just make no exact but look I was back.

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Speaker 1: I took a greahound bus from New York to l A.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta got that from white people. You ain't

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Speaker 1: just you ain't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just getting him.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't in Brooklyn and Flatbush and Nigga said, Yo,

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Speaker 1: you got that from your white friend? Did Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: to the bay Mystic Journeyman? Shout out to Mystic Journeyman

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Speaker 1: from Bay Area. I met them at a club and

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Speaker 1: at the Good Life Cafe in Los Angeles, and they

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Speaker 1: told me come to the Bay Area. You good I

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Speaker 1: hated paper collar. Now it's way before that, but in

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Speaker 1: my mind when you said that, I just popped the collar.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That was hella. Okay, okay, I might have

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Speaker 1: to ask you to get some more drink. You got.

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Speaker 1: You gotta loosen up. And you was shooting a video today.

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Speaker 1: Let's pick up your video you was doing. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Nicole and chatz uh Van Queen shout video for

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Speaker 1: I meet good girls in the right places. My new

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Speaker 1: albums called Toward the Force. He used to be called

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Speaker 1: He's very smart Force toward the Force. I got j

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Speaker 1: like trying to call on it. I gotta walk a

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Speaker 1: flock on it. I got nor on its almost he's

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Speaker 1: putting pressure on. Let's make some noise for He's just

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Speaker 1: drink chat to me on the drink chat. Well, Tyler

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Speaker 1: is my mama bum boy man? Like you know? Um.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I know I said it earlier,

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Speaker 1: but I want to just reiterate it is. I just

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Speaker 1: want to show the people how cool you are. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a lot of people think you're

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Speaker 1: so serious. Why because you know why? You do speak

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Speaker 1: up for us? And you know. I remember me asking

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Speaker 1: Russell Simmons one night. I said, your Russell, UM, I

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Speaker 1: want you to run for president and he said, I

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Speaker 1: smoked dope before, and Russell everybody smoked weed before, said no, Norria,

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Speaker 1: I smoked heroine. I've seen the show. I'm not arrested you,

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Speaker 1: but I want you to run for New York City mayor.

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Speaker 1: Are you mad at me for throwing that out there. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you know what. Local politics is

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Speaker 1: better than presidential politics. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: so you could do you're gonna do the New York City. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not, because you could do right here, Chance Radio

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Speaker 1: Tiland running for Brooklyn City Councilman's not like like the

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Speaker 1: city councilman, the assemblyman to school board public service announcement.

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Speaker 1: You gotta vote for these people if you have chids

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Speaker 1: and they go to school in your neighborhoods. That's part

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Speaker 1: that people miss. That's the part that people miss. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not I'm slacking on

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Speaker 1: it because I don't even be in New York enough

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Speaker 1: to do it, you know I'm saying, But I'm just

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Speaker 1: a public service for me to just um one Senate

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Speaker 1: in his and he's holly there. I think that. I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, honestly, I know I'm playing around

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think like people like jay

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Speaker 1: Z Russell Simmons, I live quality people who know politics

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Speaker 1: like me. I learned my politics on Bill Moore. Like

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, if it's on Bill Moore.

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Speaker 1: I know what's going on. Yeah, but that's learn his politics.

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Speaker 1: But it's like this, I used to be the type

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Speaker 1: of nig but you know politics this if this footage

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Speaker 1: of me talking about why you shouldn't vote. I'm not

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Speaker 1: somebody who believes that you should just vote for the

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Speaker 1: sake of voting. People be like people died for the

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Speaker 1: sake of voting. Voting in America is a broken system.

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Speaker 1: But I read I read Man in Merrible book about

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Speaker 1: Malcolm X and Malcolm X his ship was the ballot

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Speaker 1: of Man and Marrible. He's a scholar. He wrote a

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Speaker 1: book called The Reinvention Life and Reinvention. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: a book about Malcolm xIC after Malcolm X autobiography. It's

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Speaker 1: a good book. I sell it on my website Quality

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Speaker 1: club dot com club. We don't sell any books in

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Speaker 1: I sell hoodies and T shirts and fucking hats. That

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Speaker 1: the audio book with that, No, I'm working on that,

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Speaker 1: the coming coming. But I got so heat he changed

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Speaker 1: my mind when I read this book because Man and

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Speaker 1: Man and Marrable wrote about how Malcolm X got with

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Speaker 1: Adam Clayton Powell in the sixties. Adam Clayton Powell's famous

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Speaker 1: senator from Harlem. They formed voting black Adam Clayton, Adam,

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Speaker 1: you know exactly. That's what I'm talking about. What I'm

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Speaker 1: saying got awkward. I'm sorry, but that's that's real ship.

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Speaker 1: So Adam Clayton got with Malcolm X and they formed

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Speaker 1: voting blocks. So you see the Irish people in New

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Speaker 1: York and the Jewish people, they vote as a as

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Speaker 1: a community. They get they get the ship if they

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Speaker 1: if they want. The Cubans in Miami, they went to

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Speaker 1: trash cleaned up, they want to stop sign whatever they want,

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Speaker 1: they get because they vote as voting blocks. As African

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Speaker 1: American people, we don't do that. Adam clay In Powell

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Speaker 1: and Malcolm X figured out how to do that. That's

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Speaker 1: what convinced me that the vote is worth something, your

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Speaker 1: vote on mina and as an individually. Because Electoral College

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Speaker 1: ensued that all the white people and all the rich landowners,

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Speaker 1: they all the people don't land and rich people, the

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Speaker 1: Electoral College make sure that they vote count more than

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Speaker 1: the vote in California count more than the vote in

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Speaker 1: New York because California is a bigger place and more

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Speaker 1: rich people own land there you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 1: but if we get together and vote as a block,

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Speaker 1: like the Cuban people in Miami or the Jewish Jewish

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Speaker 1: people do in New York, then we can affect change.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm down with. You know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let you know right now. Yes, the hip hop community

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Speaker 1: get together and vote for you. You're gonna take the job. Son.

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Speaker 1: We got people, We got Rass Baraka, he was on

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Speaker 1: the Lauren Hill album that I went to Cuba, Ross

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Speaker 1: barrock and I met with Ross Barrocker and he's he's

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Speaker 1: done mayor. He's the mayor of Newark, New Jersey right now.

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Speaker 1: He was not there. Tupaca is alive when I went there,

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Speaker 1: um uh Asada is there and shout out to Nihanda

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Speaker 1: abby o do she's there. We went to Cuba. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: you've been going to Cuba for a long time back

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Speaker 1: I went once. You don't get to that that helped

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Speaker 1: us you're in hip hop into listen, yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but look at that. You helped the Cubans go back

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Speaker 1: to Cuba. Come on, make now you know, Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: you We're gonna make it. We're gonna force you, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna start what is it a petition?

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Speaker 1: A petition. We're gonna hit everybody on Twitter every day.

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Speaker 1: We need a hip hop man, that's the hip hop.

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Speaker 1: But we got them. We got Jersey and talking about

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Speaker 1: Corey Booker, He's hip book. Rasp Barrock to do what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He ran against Corey Booker Back of

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Speaker 1: the Day. He lost Crey Book of more mainstream Corey Booker.

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Speaker 1: Corey Book is good. He like Top s good, Top

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Speaker 1: forty and Homeboy is underground. That's exactly right, rasp ground.

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Speaker 1: Corey Books book is a set of guys. He don't sell.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make it too far. Rasp Rock is a

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Speaker 1: bare new it. I'm going to rasp Berrocker having a meeting,

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Speaker 1: uh and two weeks with Black Lives Matter on me,

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Speaker 1: rap City and bust Ron's going. He shout to rasp Rock,

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Speaker 1: Rasper Rocks, Let's make a noise, Rasper Rock. Laur with

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Speaker 1: new album no the Laura Miss Education, Laura Hill. When

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Speaker 1: she has the intervals where they got the principal talking

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Speaker 1: to the kids, that's Rasper. He run a school. He

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Speaker 1: has a principle. He has a school official like a

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Speaker 1: referee with a whistle wrong. Welcome to play, a new

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Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d jes. Now,

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Speaker 1: what did the name todder live quality? Because shout to

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Speaker 1: my parents, you know that's yours, my boy, Tyl Quality

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Speaker 1: Green is my born name. So how bad is it

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Speaker 1: you going through customs after not? It was pretty bad,

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Speaker 1: you know. And my DJ's name is Hussein. I'll back.

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Speaker 1: My best friend was was was was Mussa Abdella. No,

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Speaker 1: but na Mussolini chose some of the Muslim names. No, no,

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Speaker 1: he was born and he was not. Mussolini is born

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Speaker 1: his Muslim. This is so. I used to travel with

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Speaker 1: a person named Mussa Abdella and Ali Sammy. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: great for me going to let's say that. I had

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Speaker 1: to learn to leave them. But I had to be

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Speaker 1: like yo, you know, yeah, you wait for your man

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Speaker 1: and he'd be like, no, that's not working. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: but that's not eleven, that's not I got stopped everywhere,

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Speaker 1: fucking they don't know what you look a ram, I'm

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Speaker 1: cub I'm sorry, started wrapping American flags around their head

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Speaker 1: like through that's that that this is crazy. So did

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Speaker 1: you have problems going through customs or no? It was

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know I got yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: got the random search. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: but I had been used to it by that time.

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Speaker 1: I traveled the world a bunch of times. He was saying,

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Speaker 1: like that, it's different every country we got. I got

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Speaker 1: stopped by to see everybody. I got to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: Not maybe not it was FBI was FPI, WHOA WHOA

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Speaker 1: hold on, let's get into this story. Was listen ahead,

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Speaker 1: let's look. I pulled up to the airport. They was like,

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Speaker 1: they pulled me to the side, put me in the

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Speaker 1: back room. They said, on this night, where was you?

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Speaker 1: I was in curR Room studios, working on my own quality.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to Stokely Car Michael speech. Stokely Car

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Speaker 1: Black panther brother right, black power. He was the one

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Speaker 1: who in the ablackwer They knew this. They started talking

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Speaker 1: to me about this. The reason they knew this is

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Speaker 1: because when I booked my flight. I booked my flight

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Speaker 1: with Jet Blue while I was listening to this speci

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Speaker 1: Are you supposed to make are we supposed to make noise?

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Speaker 1: With Jeff Blue? Definitely give up. Continue. They pulled me.

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Speaker 1: They showed me a list of names and all the

839
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Speaker 1: names was blacked out except for my wife d j

840
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Q and my manager at the time, Corey Smith. Corey Smith,

841
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: he managed Vincent states that's right. At one point, continue

842
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: right on point. They said, do you know these people

843
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: had my manager and my wife's name that's said everybody

844
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: else and black that. I said, I know them. I said,

845
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: that's my manner, that's my wife. I said, why are

846
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: you got from people? They said, those are the people

847
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: you travel with the most. What I'm saying, I said,

848
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: why do you stop me? They pulled me that. They

849
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: pulled me. They said they was question asked me on

850
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: these questions. They said, you was listening to a speech

851
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: that seem violent and anti government. God wait wait wait wait.

852
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: But when he was listening to the speech out again

853
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: in the studio and current room studio, when he was

854
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: justin before just blades, when he was justin he was

855
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: just gra phillies for me. But that's right, when he

856
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: was an intern, just blazes up at night, late at

857
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: night in the studio where his mom. I love ground,

858
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: I love his grind. Yeah, that's where. That's where I

859
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: was at and when I got to the airport. This

860
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: was when jet Blue was the first cramemb when jet

861
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Blue was first cracking that. I'm sorry, I don't with

862
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: jet Blue. When United, nigga, let's make some noise for United.

863
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get spontsor enjoys me that kind of

864
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: days when they still had the t w A terminal

865
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: back in wa we just go. That's before Miles. Nobody

866
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: had Miles back there. But you can drink in the

867
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: teken floor. It's like, yeah, this is paper, my man,

868
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: he just came home. We just came He smokes clear paper. Yeah,

869
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: this is that official like this vegan like it? Vegan smoke?

870
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: Is that like vegan? We have vegan smoke here. Let's

871
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: make some noise for vegan smoke. We don't know what

872
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: it is. I got a vegan. Jokes, I got a vegan.

873
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: How do you know somebody vegan? Don't worry, they fucking

874
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: tell you he cans. Get the joke. Yeah, we didn't,

875
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: all right, Tyler, I hate to switch the subject. I

876
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: hate to ask you this, but you know what happened.

877
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: We had the god body care arrests on this show.

878
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: That's my that's that's my mentor, that's my mentor. Yeah, yeah,

879
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: because you know why he didn't have a chance to

880
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: defend himself. I know exactly. Me Let me what happened.

881
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: I got an opinion of this. Let me let me

882
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: go that I got my because because this is how

883
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: here you take it. So this this is the thing, right,

884
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Caress is my mentor. He from Queens. That's an extra means,

885
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: that means extra more and said to him on the podcast,

886
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: I always said that at So what happened was I

887
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: asked him about this question and Caroress is long winded.

888
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: What I mean by long winded is he can't give Caress.

889
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: He'll give you what I mean, He'll give you a

890
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: three minute answer. Right. What I wanted from Careres was

891
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: YO when I asked this question, and so when he

892
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: didn't answer like that, I know the internet, like you know,

893
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: you know the internet. So this is the reason why,

894
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: because they're gonna they're gonna shorten it no matter how

895
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: which way I asked you this, They're gonna shorten it,

896
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I realized that

897
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: Chris was going, you know, a little too far, I

898
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: kind of let him answer, but I changed the subject.

899
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: In the Internet, it's like that's that is not Caress

900
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: for I'm sure he was gonna get to the point

901
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: to say that that this part and this part is wrong.

902
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: But when he kept you know, prolong, and you know,

903
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: I I understand it. It's about like that, like you

904
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: already see how we cut each other off. You know

905
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because we already know we're cutting it

906
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: up for one minute to thirty minutes and fifteen second clips.

907
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: We got it already designed in our head, right, all right?

908
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: So I asked Caress this question. I said, what should

909
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: we do with African band bother and the situation? Right?

910
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: And Chris, you know, I don't want to say he

911
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: defended them. He defended their relationship, which is totally but

912
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: the Internet wanted him to say, boom, this is wrong.

913
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: He's still my man. But if it's you know what

914
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And so I have to ask you pretty

915
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: much the same. Well, here's the thing. The language of

916
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: political correctness evolves over time, and if you're not really

917
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: engaged in paying attention like every second to the Internet

918
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: and to the social media and what people are saying

919
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: an academic language and how people are dealing with everything,

920
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: for racism, the sexism, the child abuse, to everything. You

921
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: may just talk and speak your mind, but because people

922
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: receive a lot more information, they may not understand where

923
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: you're coming from, Like you want me speak a certain

924
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: language because we're from New York. You want me speak

925
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: a certain language because we hip hop, or because we minority,

926
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: or because you know what I'm saying. Care Arrest is

927
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: an older gentleman and he's a teacher. He's a teacher,

928
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: but he comes from a different generation. He comes from

929
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: an older generation with a language and the paradigm and

930
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: everything that they informed by is different than now. So

931
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: the way that the language that he's speaking on current

932
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: topics is different is why you hear older people speaking

933
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: and you may not relate to them. You'd be like, oh,

934
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: she's changed since then. So not only are you dealing

935
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: with somebody who's older and somebody who's not engaged with

936
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: the current language. But I don't think he understood the facts.

937
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: Neither and you, but you also do None of us

938
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: knew the fact. None of us also listen, listen, but

939
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: now we know the ACU Caress is from a generation

940
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: that's from before the internet. He had still he's from

941
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: before the end. People don't say that his phone. I

942
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I was embarrassed. I wanted. I told

943
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: him I was gonna buy. You been embarrassed on everybody's phone.

944
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I've been disappointed. You don't cracks

945
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: in school? Is just your up to date Caress. Caress

946
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: still had a two way. I'm just playing Caress. He

947
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: knows like a joke on him, but ahead, but you

948
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: know what it is. Here's the thing, Caress, It's clear

949
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: to me, I'm gonna be It's clear to me as

950
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: as as a fan of Caress, as someone who knows

951
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: him personally, that he doesn't condone any of the accusations.

952
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: Of course he of course he doesn't. No, not even

953
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: even with Caress making a record like thirteen and Good,

954
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: because a lot of people have given him flak, A

955
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: lot of flak has come back, has haunted him for

956
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: this record that he did years ago, that I wrote,

957
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: I read he read it. He wrote a whole because

958
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: of his drink. Champs state that I read what I'm saying,

959
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: and he said, he said a record that I did

960
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: as a joke. We used to joke about rape and

961
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: child abused. Back in the day. We used to use

962
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: the word faggot with no remorse and no. We come

963
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: from if you older, we come from a generation where

964
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,479
Speaker 1: that wasn't taboo, That wasn't We wasn't enlightened, We wasn't

965
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: evolved evolved enough to understand what was wrong with those things,

966
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: and we we engaged in those sticks. When I was

967
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: growing up, I used the word faggot. I called niggas

968
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: pucks right now, right now, like even the term man up.

969
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying.

970
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Like I grew up saying man up. I've told my

971
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: son man up. But as a forty year old man,

972
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: I made a decision to stop using that term because

973
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: I realized it's sexist. I realized that that and negates

974
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: and the racist women when I say man up. But

975
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm still evolving as a man. I'm still evolving as

976
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: a man. And as we grow and we evolved, we

977
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: do things as we're younger. What I'm saying in the

978
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: in the seventies, I watched TV shows and clips from

979
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: the seventies and the eighties and early eighties where people

980
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: were getting away with ship that you put it on

981
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: the internet. Now, now you know what I watched the

982
00:52:53,800 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: other day that was sucking me up? Were Avenge of

983
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: the Nerds. You ever three? He had four? Actually he

984
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: had be with the other dude. So he went in

985
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: there and he he dressed as the other dude and

986
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: he basically raped the chick, right, and that ship was funny.

987
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: But if he came out now you if it came

988
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: out now that because we looked at the old the

989
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: rat pack they was, it was that wanted and that's

990
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: like the good time the fellas. We gotta make a

991
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: point because it's gonna look crazy. Got let's get to

992
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: the point for trying to make because make the point

993
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: the Zulu Nation and Harris one and all these people

994
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: who come from a different terror the way that they

995
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: had to go. We're gonna make a point because listen,

996
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: because listen, we went we were to like a dumb area.

997
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: We did. He's the smartest nick in here. We gotta

998
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: make him not make sense to this. Come on with

999
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: the kid. Yeah, I bet you Jain is Jamaican. They

1000
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: got seventeen jobs, two languages. Anybody in London, anybody speak

1001
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: Jamaican from London. He spent too. Let's make the point.

1002
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's make the point. But we've got to make the

1003
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: point because listen, they're gonna fry you on the internet.

1004
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: You gotta tell we don't have fat I'm used to listen.

1005
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: The response has to be responsible. Now, the Puerto Rican

1006
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: sistem referred to Roads and Clemente or DJ and Candy

1007
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: and a bunch of people that they rock with a

1008
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: fashion a response to the Zulu Nation accusations. Because let's

1009
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: be clear, this to accusations. But even though the accusations,

1010
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: you have to take them seriously. You have to use

1011
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: the word victim. You have to say that these people

1012
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: are victims until proven otherwise, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1013
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: you have to take it seriously. African being about a

1014
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: show step down, Zula Nation should step up in a

1015
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: way that they have not stepped up before. Rosa Clemente

1016
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: and Candy they are they are female members of the

1017
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Zula Nation. They wrote a response that I retreated on

1018
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: my account. Um, if you google and Candy Rosa Clemente

1019
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: Zula Nation, you'll see they wrote the hip hop response

1020
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: that I co sa a response from hip hop to

1021
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: the alex. This is what needs this is what hip

1022
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: hop needs to hear. You know what I'm saying. Like

1023
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: they they they spoke about, um, the silencing of victims.

1024
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: They spoke about how hard it is for victims of

1025
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: sexual abuse to speak up, and how it's taboo and

1026
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: how you ostracize if you're a victim of sexual abuse.

1027
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: And they spoke about all that, but they all spoke

1028
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: about how bi about it, how important he is in

1029
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: the coach is what I'm saying, Like, we can't not

1030
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: with African Bimbada and the Zula Nation and we can separate.

1031
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: If African Banba has done these things, and the evidence

1032
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: is pretty strong, it's pretty strong. But if he's done

1033
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: the things, we remember that from the Zulu Nation, the culture. Yeah,

1034
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: African Bimbada, this is somebody who as a as a

1035
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: somebody who loves hip hop. I've revered, I've looked up to.

1036
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: There's a cultural worship, celebrity worship around him and people

1037
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: who worship him and people who because their introduction to

1038
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: hip hop and their relationship with hip hop is through

1039
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: African and Bader. You know what I'm saying, we have

1040
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: to stay away from celebrity worship. He's just a man.

1041
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, we have to acknowledge what he gave

1042
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: to the culture. But if these accusations and allegations are true,

1043
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: and the evidence present itself that is true, we got

1044
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: to deal with it and we have to. We have

1045
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: to take it seriously and we have to be responsible

1046
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: because we we as we come from a community of

1047
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: poor people. This this abuse in this type of stuff,

1048
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: whether he did it or not, it happens to poor

1049
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: people and it doesn't get reported, you know what I'm saying.

1050
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: So it's like we have to make sure that we

1051
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: step up and we're responsible for you know, even fuck

1052
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: the court of law, how we deal with the youth.

1053
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: That's right. You know what I want to I want

1054
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: you to elaborate on is when you said you think

1055
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: he needs to step down because a lot of people

1056
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: in the community. I think he did step down. Um,

1057
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: the brother Muhammad, which was like his lifelong security guard,

1058
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: had just said the same thing. So I just wanted

1059
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: you to elaborate on for the people who don't know.

1060
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, what do you mean

1061
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: by that? Because well, because there's so much speculation and

1062
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: so much unanswered questions that you're tainting the legacy of

1063
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: Zulu Nation by not either speaking up about it or

1064
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: stepping down. Like I feel like I can't speak on

1065
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: that man because I'm not that man, but I feel

1066
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: like it was if it was me, even the possibility

1067
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: of the accusation, whether I did it or not, I

1068
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: would want to disassociate myself from hip hop, from Zulu

1069
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Nation and deal with my own stepped down, know what,

1070
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: the effect that it's having one, And that's just me.

1071
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, I can't speak for that man at all.

1072
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: He was saying, you gotta have you right? Do I

1073
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: need another drink? Drink? I was about to say, make

1074
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: some noise for that, but I don't know if people

1075
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: will kill me. But listen, you know, thank you, you know,

1076
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: live because you know why. Um Chris again, who was

1077
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: my mentor? I knew he kind of didn't understand that

1078
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: we gotta wait from that. Yeah, christ is Chris. Chris

1079
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: is somebody I think I think I paid attention. What

1080
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: he said on your show. I think it was clear,

1081
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: and I paid attention to his end, and I gotta

1082
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: say this and this listen, let me let me. Chris

1083
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: is a friend of mine, we have records together. This

1084
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: is my mentor, this is my favorite. I'm say this

1085
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: is somebody who I've learned. I was talking him. I

1086
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: hit you because I heard together to night the night before,

1087
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: so I didn't show with him the night before. And honestly,

1088
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: I gotta say this, I wish he wouldn't have wrote

1089
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: that opad. I wish he would have wrote it in

1090
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: a different fashion because I don't feel like he cleared

1091
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: anything up with the end right exactly. I don't feel

1092
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: like the op ed helped him, you know what I'm saying.

1093
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't. I don't feel like he

1094
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: clarified his position. You know. I think, as somebody who

1095
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: loves hip hop and somebody who understands the impact of

1096
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: what Africa about It has done for hip hop, I

1097
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: think that his vision was a little clouded when he

1098
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: wrote the op ed, what I'm saying, and I think

1099
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: that he was coming from a place in nostalgia, in

1100
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: a place of maybe possibly emotion, And because I think that,

1101
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, the whole like conspiracy theory thing, like the

1102
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: whole thing, like we shouldn't even be speaking they side,

1103
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: we shouldn't even be speaking on that, you know what

1104
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that, And I think I think that

1105
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: as as people who love music and people want to

1106
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: like you have everything, have context. Caress is somebody who

1107
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: hip hop saved his life. This is somebody who was

1108
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: homeless and rose to be one of the greatest poets

1109
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: and musicians of all time. Fuck a genre, fucking music,

1110
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: Caress is one of the greatest of all time. And

1111
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that we're not You're not

1112
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: going to understand his position on it unless you understand

1113
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: hip hop. But we have to defend cars, That's what

1114
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He wrote that head he had just come

1115
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: off that long ass cruise. He was like, it's so

1116
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: it's because yeah, he don't we explain that on the show.

1117
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: It was like crazy, because you know, I love Harris

1118
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: one man, that's my hero. Like, let me just say

1119
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: that it was that small and excellent. But you know,

1120
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: there's certain people that want to focus on that, and

1121
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: you know what, they have the right to because we're

1122
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: all public figures people can just like this interview, we

1123
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: got some dope ship, and we're gonna go into some

1124
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: dope with ship. But people can take and pick what

1125
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: they want. I can't wait to see what's might have.

1126
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm out of pocket. That's wrong, It's fantastic. Don't worry

1127
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: about I can't what it is because you know why

1128
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm Iron claud When I'm able to defend my position

1129
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: from every I love that. I'm like iron Cloud, iron Cloud,

1130
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 1: what does that mean? That means hardcore? Like that ain't

1131
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna get you take iron That was hard and that

1132
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: was right. Yeah, I was like what that means? So

1133
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: now listen, you said it earlier, washing this who has Park?

1134
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: You said it very like nonchalantly. That's when you met

1135
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: David Chappelle. That, um no, I met Dave Chappe's working

1136
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: in the cure books. You had a lot of jobs. Yeah.

1137
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: I was a Jamaican. Yeah, let's make some noise to

1138
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: and um I was dating a girl who shall remain

1139
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: nameless and she had just broken up with Dave Chappelle. Wait,

1140
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, that's all, that's all. And she

1141
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: used to talk about him, and I used to be like,

1142
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: but I wasn't hate it. You only only only ship

1143
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: that Dave Chappelle did at this um was Nutty Professor.

1144
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: He was Reggie, he was the brave. I used to

1145
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: be like the Reggie and did think of the piano Nigga.

1146
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: He was funny. Then the piano the piano nigga him.

1147
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: He was hating on the piano Nigga po not Buddy

1148
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: loves right now. Buddy loved the piano Nigga got one

1149
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: scene she said yes. I said, look she broke up

1150
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: with me and went, I think she went back with

1151
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: Hi Niga after that. Just keep it going, keep it

1152
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: going earlier, shall remain nameless, he knows. A couple of

1153
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: years later, uh Corey Smith used to manage da last song. Okay.

1154
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle lived in Yellow Springs. He grew up Yellow Springs, Ohio.

1155
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: Uh Dani also had a show near there. I went

1156
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: to the show. I was hot Tech and Cincinnati, so

1157
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I yeah, I rolled up to the show. Dave Chappelle

1158
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: was at the day las So show and I told him,

1159
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: I said, you and me used to deal with the

1160
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: same chick. By this time he had did half big

1161
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: though he did happen by this time it was out

1162
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: and it was a cold classic. So this time I'm

1163
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: like Dave Chappelle, fun with you. You with the same chick,

1164
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: but I fuxed with you and he said really, And

1165
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: I told him the story. I see him in the

1166
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: hallway and all that, but he didn't know who I was.

1167
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, and then we was cool. Then

1168
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years later, I was an Electric Lady

1169
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: working on the album of High Tech on Street. Of course,

1170
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: I know, you know this is crazy. And I just

1171
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: seen a Zy do a documentary and he's speaking about

1172
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: Electric Lady because you guys were trying to like when

1173
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: I was working the Electric Lady, I was on the

1174
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: top floor, Common was on the second floor. We're gonna

1175
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: like water for chocolate. J Will you remember that white cat.

1176
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: You used to want to shoot that white cat which

1177
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: had a white cat, an electric lady. I remember the

1178
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: White chicks Mary a cat. They had a cat. You know,

1179
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: come on, you know what I'm talking about. They had

1180
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: a white cat. The cat used to just look at

1181
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: me and like, yo, I'm a straight I have I

1182
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: just have a gun on me. I'm still I like killer.

1183
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna kill that cat. That's right. It's a

1184
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: white cat. And they ustill always say that's Jimmy Hendrix

1185
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: saying the cat jim personal. You guys are crazy. Listen, Jimmie,

1186
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: this is Jimmie Hendrick studio. Jimmy Hendricks was in the cat,

1187
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: so they said the spirit of jim was in this

1188
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: cat with I used to go to the bathroom. And

1189
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, you can't ask the guys to go with

1190
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: mad homies, so you can't act the homies want me

1191
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: to do the bathroom. That's the only thing to look

1192
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: at you like, the next what the fuck? That cat?

1193
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: This cat was in was in the studio and the

1194
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: studio reflection, internal training thought, because in every studio was

1195
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: like just whatever chocolate D'Angelo was downstairs in the baseball kid.

1196
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: You notice at the same time, and this is they

1197
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: say that Jimmy Hendrix. They say that because you know

1198
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: that Jimmy owned the studio owned. I swear to god,

1199
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 1: I've never take the story before, my man. I haven't

1200
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: thought about that cat many years. And you know this

1201
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: is why I know the cat is special. I'm allergic

1202
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: to cats. I never broke out when I went to

1203
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: the studio. I did bad from TV, there was recorded

1204
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: an electric lady, so I forgot the point he was making.

1205
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 1: But you was an electric lady. So if you listen

1206
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: to the Reflection turn album, here drops right. There was

1207
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: this girl that I knew there was dating Lennox Lewis

1208
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: at the time. And we're still on the Chappale right.

1209
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: She brought LENNYX Lewis the studio. So if you listen

1210
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: Reflection he was dating Lenniz Lewis. Girl. Again, what kind

1211
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: of big are you? Tyler? I thought, that's what that's

1212
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: your home girl, girl, my girl. He said it like

1213
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: that's my girl. But I think he wasn't. That's right.

1214
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: I can't very restal, he's very Now you listening to

1215
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: Reflection turn albums, Lex Lewis he has won two or

1216
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: three four Reflection turne. Gil Scott Heron is on the

1217
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: Reflection turnout. He came to the problem. He came in

1218
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle. I'm walking on the street on a street

1219
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: going to Grace s Pappie. That's the hot dog spot

1220
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: for those that don't know. I see Dave Chappelle. I said,

1221
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: remember me from the Daylight Show. He said yeah, I said,

1222
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: I work on the album. He came to the studio.

1223
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle came every day after that day. So when

1224
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: you hear Dave, Rick James and Nelson Mandela opening the reflection,

1225
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: that's Dave Chappelle doing all that was, Yeah, that's Dave Chappelle.

1226
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: Did not know this, Yeah, he came through every day

1227
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: when we high TechEd that album, Da Chappelle was in

1228
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: the studio every day that album. But this is this

1229
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: was right when half half after half bab we don't

1230
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: know he's there. But this this was no Chappelle show,

1231
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: nothing right there. So then how did that happen? Autumn

1232
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: years later he starts the Chappelle Because you guys were

1233
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: performing for him, like even before his show blew up,

1234
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: it seemed like a family. Now he was in the

1235
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: studio for all that. He was an electric lady around

1236
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: all that time. And so he got the show and

1237
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: shout out to Corey Smith once again him and had

1238
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: a good had a good relationship. He got a deal

1239
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: with Comedy Central. He said, I want to do the

1240
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: show Chappelle Show, but one of his visions was I

1241
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: want to have the musicians that I fun and didn't

1242
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: you're perform in the kitchens one time that was that

1243
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: was common and Kanye cool. Okay, so he had Yeah,

1244
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: I did. I didn't get by you know what I'm saying,

1245
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: Like he had Big Boy, he had Celo, he had

1246
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: DMX whatever he needed two words to performed that there

1247
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: most and whatever David listened to at the time, That's

1248
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: what he had on this show. That's what I was saying,

1249
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: like he was in the hip hop And then when

1250
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: he did block Party, the block Party was it wasn't

1251
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: it was the best time in Yeah, And Dave paid

1252
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: for that. He paid for that. We filmed it and

1253
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: then he sold it to the movie company. So he

1254
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't know if he was gonna know he did. We

1255
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: just we just did it. He just and I got.

1256
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: I made royalties off off of that. You know, for years,

1257
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember my last Royal Tea check, but for

1258
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: years I made money off that. For Block part its revolutionary.

1259
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, as a black man, I'm gonna

1260
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: do my own ship. I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna

1261
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: put it out. So the nigger girl you was kept

1262
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: it real with you five come on, I worked out that.

1263
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm regretting that. So now I'm not. Let me

1264
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You meet Dave, he's a

1265
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: regular guy, You're a regular guy. You guys both become stars.

1266
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: He makes you a part of the show. Then all

1267
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he did you have a call him

1268
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: about that? Or yeah, I was. I was hanging out

1269
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: with Dave around a lot of that time and at

1270
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: the time he quit. Yeah, you know, he you know,

1271
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: he was in a situation where he felt compromised. He

1272
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: felt like the money that he took and the money

1273
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: that he accepted made him they was taking advantage of him,

1274
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: and like a cornery rave this. Yeah, you know, like

1275
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: like a lot of these kids that they a lot

1276
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: of kids. Everybody loved Dave Chappelle, but not everybody understood

1277
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle. Like and I'm hearing this, this is the

1278
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: woman that I heard. I'm hearing that it was from

1279
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: black folks like like Oprah, And maybe I don't. I can't,

1280
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: I can't speaking with that man. Okay, yeah, Like, but

1281
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: but from what I observed, you know, I think that

1282
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 1: his comedy, Dave Chappelle comedy, like the best comedy, was

1283
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: very intellectual. People didn't understand the nuances Dave Chappelle come

1284
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: from educated people. You know, he comes from black academia.

1285
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he comes from heavy

1286
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: ideas and intellectualism, but it's broken down in the comedy way.

1287
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: And a lot of people got the funniness of it

1288
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: but didn't get the point. And I think I heard

1289
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: like princes princesses. But even even on something like heard,

1290
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: you got a prince story, I got several princes. Hold on,

1291
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: let me get the hard all right, hold on, we

1292
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: gotta set we gotta set this up, all right, So

1293
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: hold on, time out here quality from we just switch

1294
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, we always horrible. I'm not cutting off.

1295
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm actually I haven't cut him off yet. Just see

1296
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: stories I sweat because you know you from Brooklyn. Yes,

1297
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: you had flash all day. You have fifteen hundred jobs

1298
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: before you were sixteen dred job. Choose one you become

1299
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: an m C prince. I don't give a funk if

1300
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: you're a killer. I don't give a funk if you're

1301
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: a backpack on this, if you always princess guard to

1302
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: all of us as far as making music and art, music,

1303
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: creative coaches, finest broad YEP and your first time mean

1304
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: Prince when you first subscribed, shout to dj Q my wife,

1305
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: dj Q, I like, I like how you pick up

1306
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: your wife? God damn it. How five? That's real? Five,

1307
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: real ship. Let's make some noise for that. L A right,

1308
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: she didn't stretch. She's a She's a world class famous DJ,

1309
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: and Prince got to liking her DJ skills. She became

1310
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: a wife work with Prince. This is not started out.

1311
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: This is not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie.

1312
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm a jealous guy. Prince, you listen, Prince, you gotta

1313
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: get the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma.

1314
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's not doing your Prince. Now. She was

1315
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: DJ in his party. You know what? And by this

1316
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: time when I met Prince, first I met Prince was

1317
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: maybe a house of blues l A M. She was DJ.

1318
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: You know he did he float? Now, he didn't levitate

1319
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: to float. He had a second back. Prince Prince knew

1320
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: his hip hop when I first met him. You know

1321
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he knew, but he knew certain

1322
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: type of hip and he knew like common. He like

1323
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: like common I am, And it was like he likes

1324
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: certain things into something. He like hip hop, and he

1325
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: like hip hop. That was a little bit more like organic,

1326
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: saying like he liked like Lauren Hell, you know, like Common,

1327
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: like he really liked Colmon a lot, like he's a

1328
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: Common fan and and and Common is one of my

1329
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: favorite Common work with him at all. I don't know

1330
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: if Common might have worked Prince here. He like Erica,

1331
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: I do a lot, you know what I'm saying, Like

1332
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: Prince I met yeah, yes, yeah, So when I met him,

1333
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: he said, I like that. He said, like, I like

1334
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: that one son. You the hot thing I was saying,

1335
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: I have so will I am hot thing was on

1336
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: the hook and and he like he liked, well I

1337
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: am a black Eye's and that type of ship. Um.

1338
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: I started just hanging out doing parties. You know my wife,

1339
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: My wife would do parties. Prince was shot up at

1340
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: the parties. Was just short, hold on, how does this happen?

1341
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 1: Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks

1342
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: in the basketball like yeah, I mean no, no, no,

1343
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm serious, walk in the party. He walking the party.

1344
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: You know. I went to a party once in l A.

1345
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: What's that club that's across the street from the Beverly Center.

1346
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: The club that's his name is Prince walked in the

1347
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: club ended in. Prince kept a bunch of us in

1348
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: the club and at gun point, no, not a good point,

1349
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: but he's Prince. He just did to look almost gun point,

1350
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: and everybody stayed point. He put out a little Bible. Wait, Prince,

1351
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: he said, he did Jehovah's wait and Jehovah's witness. They

1352
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: get down like that the Bible. He started having Bible study.

1353
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: Don't you know drinking three in the morning was niggas drinking.

1354
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 1: There was no niggas there. It's only women and me

1355
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: because my wife is DJ, so I was the only

1356
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: nig And there was one other dude who was a

1357
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: boyfriend of one of the other girls. So it's Prince

1358
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: and me and this other dude. All right, don't pass that.

1359
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: This others passing back to me. I got you. This

1360
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: other dude, Prince, Prince was quoting the horrible he's caughting

1361
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: the Bible, and this other dude trying to say something smart.

1362
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: And now this other dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay,

1363
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: he just happened to be there. He tried to say

1364
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: something and Prince, I'll never forget this Prince said, listen, Um,

1365
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: I know you think that you're saying something to add

1366
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: onto the conversation, but you really you know what I'm saying.

1367
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: From what you're saying, I could tell you don't know

1368
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So how about you just not participating?

1369
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: The Prince about the whipper, Nika asked, but I'm asking

1370
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: was He politely told him, you don't know the funk

1371
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No? He

1372
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: did not. He did not. I've been several. I've been

1373
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: several clubs, and Prince had chuck tail keep his clues,

1374
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: keep going on this print stories, and then went to

1375
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: a club. Do you have been the Zeni? L A

1376
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: had the party called Zeni they used to have. I

1377
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: had Big Zini before Big z at two o'clock in

1378
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: the morning, the clubs and l A clothes all right, yes,

1379
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: And then this dude used to have this party called Zeni.

1380
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios.

1381
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: Jim Henson, right, and I need to know these types

1382
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: of people I live. Come on my party. I'm bad. Yeah,

1383
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with big big birds with Ernie and

1384
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: Bart and bird and ship. You know what I'm saying.

1385
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: But he's at these parties. But they used to bring

1386
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: the alcohol and he's just set up. Stay. You just

1387
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 1: have go go dances and all the celebrities used to go,

1388
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: and all the basketball players and that it was he's definitely.

1389
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: I was a prince called my wife and he said,

1390
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: wait the party at and we said we had ZENI yeah,

1391
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: said I'm coming. And this nigger just rolled up and

1392
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: told I had the privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen,

1393
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Prince. I gotta just to beavis story when

1394
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 1: you finish, I'm bringing Prince. How the hell is just

1395
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: In Prince going together? Because Justin Pieper said that what

1396
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: Prince the only nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't

1397
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: remember that. This great hate when to be cut us all.

1398
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: Like Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing

1399
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: and he said, this party is great, but why is

1400
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: she up there dancing with no clothes on? She was,

1401
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: he had clothes on, she things covered, but he said

1402
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: why She just said, you don't need to be done,

1403
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince, this

1404
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: is not the last dragon Prince, because this is not like,

1405
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: definitely not the prince wild back in the days, in

1406
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: the eighties. He was out of control, so I said,

1407
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: listen out. He asked me to introduce him to the

1408
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 1: party promoter. I introduced him, and he said he explained

1409
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: to me. He said, listen to the girls. They bring

1410
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: business people, buy drinks, Prince, and let me talk to her.

1411
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: You're trying to convert. Let me talk to her. I

1412
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: need to hear this, saying the he talked to the girl.

1413
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 1: The girl didn't know who Prince was. Young chick, young

1414
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: chick dance in the club. She might have heard the

1415
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: name Prince. She didn't know. She's going to die to night.

1416
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: This is a long time ago story, the old story.

1417
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: She turned. He said. He said, how much are they

1418
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: paying you to be in to dance with your clothes off?

1419
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: She said the number? He said, I'll pay you double

1420
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: to get down off that stage go home. That makes

1421
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: the noise of a prince being a trick? Is that

1422
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: reverse pimper? That's reverse per put your clothes on. Prince

1423
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: invented reverse pimping. She said, I'll take your money tonight,

1424
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: but what am I going to do tomorrow night. That's

1425
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: what this girl said to Prince. I wonders what was

1426
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: he said. I don't have no control for that. That's real.

1427
01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: P figured it out. I got you to my motherfucker.

1428
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to quote the verbatim. Besides that, he

1429
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: did say that him. Beyond that, he basically explained to her.

1430
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: He was like, listen, I'm giving you an opportunity to

1431
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: make a different decision in your life. I'm saying that.

1432
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: I watched him explain to this girl and talk to

1433
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: the girl, and I knew from the way that she

1434
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy.

1435
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: She didn't understand. She was just like, okay, yeah, Prince

1436
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: had an album covered with like three bitches buttond on

1437
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: top of him, maybe some dudes, and the everybody thought

1438
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: he was gay. Wasn't ready for your princess princes God. Yeah,

1439
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: he stuck to his guns and and he understood every

1440
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: artist and me and Nori, the fact that we even

1441
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: here doing drink champs smoking, we talking about stoking about

1442
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We understand that every artist got contradictions. Yeah,

1443
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: nature of being an artist's hest one. The person that

1444
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: we were here. It is the most contradictory artists whatever,

1445
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: but we were That's part of being human, like you said,

1446
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: being because all human beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions

1447
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: amplified because people pay more attention. You know, say everybody

1448
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: got contradictions. Artists, we just we create out of our contradiction.

1449
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: I say, right. But Prince was like Jesus man, listen

1450
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: to tell you something I've never liked. Billy Dee Williams

1451
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: transcended for me. Like what I mean by that is

1452
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: like Billy D. Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince and Michael Jackson

1453
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: was people who were like, you know, I grew up

1454
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: in a different you know, a different time like that

1455
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: he did, Billy d Williamson, that's a hood nigd with

1456
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Prince and they said, Billy d those

1457
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: were certain people, you know, those were certain people. Yeah, drink,

1458
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm still going in the secondary. That's that smooth down

1459
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: in my taste now. But you know, for those those

1460
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: those those four individuals right there, those are the people

1461
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: who transcended life for me. There was the people that no, no, no,

1462
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: keep it over here, let's keep it over here. So

1463
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: those are the people that transcend the life for me.

1464
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is like, you know, as

1465
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: a black person growing up young in my life, I

1466
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: can't describe anybody else here or anybody in my life.

1467
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: It was like, those are the people that said you

1468
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: can't do this, you can't do that, and they did it,

1469
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: and I was just like I always looked at them.

1470
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: It was like I ain't I ain't gotta be like them,

1471
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: but I respect that what I'm saying. And that's why

1472
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: when I met with people like for Rell, it was

1473
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: easy for me to say, I don't understand you, and

1474
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really get where you're going there,

1475
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: but your music is fucking bank. How did you meet?

1476
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: That's how I met at how I meant for uh.

1477
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: We was in sad don't doing sound studios. Everybody used

1478
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: to stick. Everybody used to think. Biggie used to be

1479
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: called at Daddy's. How something happened at daddy's house, I

1480
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: don't remember, but Big but Big used to come to

1481
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: sound on sound studios and he used to have upstairs

1482
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: or I used to have downstairs. And I used to

1483
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: see Biggie. After the war report, I used to see

1484
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: biggie like almost every day I'm working on in R. Yeah,

1485
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: and uh friend of mines. He was my manager at

1486
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: the time. I believe Martin Maure, Martin Moore from Martin

1487
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: Moore from yeah, OK, because that's part of my We're

1488
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: gonna get to that I used to when I was fourteen.

1489
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: People don't realize the skit. So he discovered me. He's

1490
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: gotta got me signed. But Martin Maure said to me, um,

1491
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, these dudes they up here, they're trying

1492
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: to work with puff and so I was like, all right, cool,

1493
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: like I had the UMR had that hard the whole

1494
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: album was done. Um. So he comes like yeah yeah.

1495
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: So he comes to sound on sound and he goes, um,

1496
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: and I just I just remember I met some dude

1497
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: in Canada just now reminded me of for real. He

1498
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: was trying to be for real, but he reminded me

1499
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: for real because his inner attitude, not not the attitude

1500
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: that he was trying to show me, but his inner attitude,

1501
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: but for all actually came up to me and said, yo, um,

1502
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: nobody never listens to me. And I was like that

1503
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: was awkward, Like that was his first sentence, Like nobody

1504
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: Neames listened to me. The person that does is going

1505
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: to go through the roof, and I'm walking. I'm hot,

1506
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: but I'm like something something in my body said, shut

1507
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: up and listen to this guy. So I listened and

1508
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 1: he goes the first person that listens to me, I've

1509
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: worked with other people. And then it said and then

1510
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: he started quoting Bloody Money to me, saying, and I

1511
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: was like, damn. I was like, alright, cool. You know

1512
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. He don't look like a Bloody

1513
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: Money type of guy. He's not supposed to be knowing

1514
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: that song off the album and get manut with war

1515
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: Report that basement. I was just telling you about. That's

1516
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: what I used to listen to component Oriegan war Report.

1517
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: You're tiler. How old are you? Like nine hundred years

1518
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: because you got to save it. I'm forty this year

1519
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: and that year and then trying to out of forty.

1520
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the forty one. Feel like

1521
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: this is incredible. Yeah, he gave your five, but he

1522
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: wasn't really what you like. He started thinking about doing

1523
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: d whatever it is. Yeah, so yeah, let me just

1524
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: ask you. Every gonna get men's Men's club. Let me

1525
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: tell you some weird ship that happens. I'm real talk.

1526
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: I would like this herritt. I was with my girl.

1527
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: We went to the pick up your girl. We took

1528
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 1: her let's make some your finger. It took her grandma

1529
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 1: to the casino for mother to get grandma her grandma. Okay,

1530
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: god bad because you know, to go play the joints.

1531
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: So I go to the bathroom and some dude I

1532
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: think I think he's Jamaican. I think he's Jamaican. Did

1533
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: you know he had an accident. I couldn't place the accident.

1534
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: It was somebody that could have been Canada. I don't know.

1535
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm washing my hands and the dude walks

1536
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: in and he just looks at me and he said,

1537
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: you're not gonna die your beards That's what he said, No,

1538
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: no my hands. At this point, no it would have been.

1539
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: And I said, h I don't like it. I don't

1540
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: like to die. I don't like none of that ship.

1541
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: He's like really but Matt like pencil like he's thinking

1542
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: because he was thinking, and he's older than me. I

1543
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: could tell he's older than me. So I'm like, alright,

1544
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: cool is that? Because I'm out of here, bro. And

1545
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: then he's like, it looks good man. I'm like you

1546
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: says his life that name. You gave him confidence and

1547
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: let his let his DoD just fade out, give him confidence.

1548
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: He looked any crazy man. That's my story. So when's

1549
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: the last time you spoke to y'all? See Bay? I

1550
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: know that? Yeah, yeah, about about a month ago. I

1551
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: went out of South Africa. Hold on time, let's make

1552
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: some noise flaws on us one more time. I went

1553
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: out to see y'all seeing you went out there hang

1554
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: out with him Ferrari Shepherd and you know, y'all see

1555
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: Bay is you know he's a He's a beautiful dude.

1556
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: Like this dude is like you know, he's like, you know,

1557
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: he's a Muslim and a lot of his um, a

1558
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: lot of his music in his stands has to do

1559
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: with incorporating Islam. I'm trying to figure out that living

1560
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: as a as a Muslim can come back to America.

1561
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: I can't speak on this situation at this particular time,

1562
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: but um, I know that he he hasn't wanted to

1563
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: be in America for a long time. He doesn't want

1564
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: to come out here. Yeah, regardless of his particular political

1565
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: situation in South Africa, you know, as you notice here

1566
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: in a minute and et still travel. Okay, Yeah, and

1567
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 1: I think that I'm appalled because you know, um, he

1568
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: is somebody who exists completely and totally outside of the

1569
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 1: music business. He exists as an artist like the business.

1570
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: He exists as an artist, as a creative spirit, like

1571
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: the epitome of an artist. Like this is this is real?

1572
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Like this is real. Like I'm not Muslim. I would

1573
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't, you know, I respect Islam. I

1574
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: respect I respect um people, anybody who searched for truth.

1575
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: So what would you claim if somebody would ask you,

1576
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: what would you I'm just me, you know, I recognize

1577
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: that God and all like that. If you recognize the

1578
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: God in yourself, I recognize the God in you everything.

1579
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 1: I'm every religion and I'm every gang too. Yeah, there's

1580
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 1: a lot of but that's how you gotta beever whoever

1581
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm hanging with. I'm a vice lord. You of the car.

1582
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: You understand the craft, the theory of the one. He's

1583
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: every game, everything, everything everything you know. But but but

1584
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: this is how this sounds. This is out y'all seen bay,

1585
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: Like I went out there and and he's I'm talking

1586
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: to him and he's quoting verses from the Koran and

1587
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: not in South Africa, did you stay in huts? No? No, no,

1588
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: in South Africa's South Africa's the most developed countries. There's

1589
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: a W out there. No, there's no w. But this

1590
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 1: some nice hotels is some nice spots that I'm western. No,

1591
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: they got a whole different system, all right, can you

1592
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: name me one otherwise? South Africa is no Chaine. South

1593
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Africa's though, change the chain hotels. You can go to Sheraton,

1594
01:27:53,320 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you can. You can

1595
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,879
Speaker 1: get a Star Wars. They better not be four point Sheridan.

1596
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: That's a difference. That's a difference. I don't want to

1597
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: fourth point, but but both points that still, I'm gonna

1598
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: put you one to the to the boutique hotels into

1599
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: the official spots outside of You're very You're very rich,

1600
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: I can tell by the way you just can you

1601
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: somebody hearing me? I'm not rich, I'm not ready. No, No,

1602
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm a working class and c who figured out I've

1603
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: cracked the code. I've seen. That's now. You know what's

1604
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: funny about you saying that when I when I say

1605
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm a working class image. Listen, I'll tell you something.

1606
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: I see the damage. I knew he was gonna get drunk.

1607
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: He's my man. Yeah, he gets spent. You know that.

1608
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: I know he drinks for the same block. You know

1609
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: I said, when you been a nigger, said, man, I

1610
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: just stay in Europe. I get this money. He pulled

1611
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: out a passport that's looked like a phone book. My nigger,

1612
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: let me explain. Let this nick a ju to damage

1613
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: to live in Berlin. Listen, I went to Berlin, Big

1614
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: up Berlin, grimy people. What specks that you go to?

1615
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: You see a post time, you see posted everywhere. Horn?

1616
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: That horn is terrible one. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. J

1617
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: in Berlin, I'm sorry. And that was we needed a

1618
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: proper horn for you at that Berlin was gonna let

1619
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 1: them give you a fake horn. We're getting that. He

1620
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: getting that fucking that fucking tear down the war money. Yeah, man,

1621
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: I think the passport was like this. I went to

1622
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: the first time I went to South Africa. I went

1623
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: with JA. I went with damage. You I'll be I'll

1624
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: be in certain countries. I'll be in like Croatia or

1625
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: some ship I'll be in a club and tap me

1626
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: the shoulder. I think live in Malmo. He lived in Malmo, Sweden.

1627
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Malmo is the Malmo in a half hour from from

1628
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: copen Hagen, Denmark. If you go to Malmo, Sweden, you

1629
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: hang out with j ro alcoholics. But this is a

1630
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: fraternity of working class room ceas that are all over

1631
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: the world. I know where all they at. I know

1632
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I know where they ad. I travel the world. I

1633
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: see him j row Uh, what's your man, eldest sense

1634
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:32,879
Speaker 1: safe artifacts? That's another one. That's another one. Master aces

1635
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: in Italy right now, Master as Marco Polo in Italy

1636
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: right Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio

1637
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment and more.

1638
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink

1639
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d j F.

1640
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Why they like y'all revolution because like I would to

1641
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: consider you a revolution every activist hip hop type of guy. Right.

1642
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: But like your biggest crowds as white people. Yes, that

1643
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: happen because white people have money and they can afford

1644
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: to come to the concert. They afford. Niggers the hood

1645
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: don't have money. They can't go to concerts. They're just

1646
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: be in the hood. White people be like they look

1647
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: in the village Voice and they look in the in

1648
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: the time out in New York and they'll be like,

1649
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I want to go to concert. I have some extra

1650
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: money to spend. I'm gonna go to concert. I like

1651
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Corlin's a good choking. But you know that's that's

1652
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: a good thing. Who has please, that's a good thing.

1653
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Because hip hop music is folk music. It don't matter

1654
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 1: if you're white, black, Jupiterian. You know what I'm saying, Jupiter,

1655
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm speaking Jupiterian. I'm with you. Let me get a

1656
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: five people federations under that sounds right up, Noriega language.

1657
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm using it up, Terry, go ahead, continue. Hip hop

1658
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: speaking the language that people speak right now. What I'm

1659
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: saying so hip hop the reason hip hop is united

1660
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: more cultures than any music and than any music. Hip

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01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: hop has united more cultures than any force anything in

1662
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: the history of the planning. More white people, black people,

1663
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: brown people, yellow people, read people get together over hip

1664
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: hop music than anything. You know what I'm saying. Because

1665
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: hip hop speaking the language that we're all speaking and

1666
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: speaking the language is going on right now. So when

1667
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Nori came out, like what what what what what what?

1668
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: That's what niggas was on the street saying at the time.

1669
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: That's what nigga was saying. And whatever niggas is saying

1670
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: right now, whether it be Panda or whatever and whatever

1671
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: whatever is going on, that's what's happening right now, and

1672
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: then make it make it to a record. Country music

1673
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: is like that. Folk folk music is like what it

1674
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: was like that, but folk usic it is not a

1675
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: popular art form like it was in the seventies, you

1676
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: know what they're like. But country music is like to

1677
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: be besides country music. And I don't country music. I'm

1678
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,839
Speaker 1: not a country music fan, but I recognize real recognize

1679
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: really you know what I'm saying that the country music

1680
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: is about struggle. It's about white people struggle, American big

1681
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: storytellers in the music. It's beautiful and it's it's similar

1682
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: to hip hop in that regard. But hip hop is

1683
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: our ship. What I'm saying, hip hop is our ship.

1684
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Golf Brooks and the niggas, yeah, they gotta struggle. That

1685
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: country music that's Golf Brooks. That's country music right horse

1686
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, Like I mean, like it's definitely their

1687
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: version of reality. You know what I'm saying, Country Muic.

1688
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: It's music. I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna keep

1689
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: it all the way you wonna keep it all change.

1690
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: It's music made by uneducated people there. And I'm not

1691
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: saying uneducated as a judgment. He was about to take

1692
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: some of that Dame Dash Whiskey by the way, people

1693
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: you people out there and let people know we got

1694
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: day Dash Whiskey on the table, yes, representing for you

1695
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: that Now, now even let me feel you get into that.

1696
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Let me just qualify my statement before. But I say uneducated,

1697
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm not meaning the disk. I mean people that don't

1698
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: receive the standard westernized traditional education. You know what I'm saying,

1699
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: Like niggas might have dropped out of high school, but

1700
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: it's still run the world. Bill Gates didn't graduate from

1701
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: college but still made a lot of money. You know

1702
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like when I say uneducated, uneducated, it's

1703
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: not a judgment. But there's white people in the South

1704
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: that didn't have the traditional education. You know, I'm saying,

1705
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: like even the term niggad, like even if we're niggas

1706
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: to political for us quick real quick. Even the term

1707
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: niggad was white people not understanding how to pronounce the

1708
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: Spanish were negatro negative. Say niggad, it becomes it was

1709
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: niggra negative south sain right, right, So as they did,

1710
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: it became nigger over time. That's where the word nigger

1711
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,879
Speaker 1: comes from. It comes from not having a Western standardized education,

1712
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: you were saying. So when I say un educated, it's

1713
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: not the dis nobody. So okay, all right, so now

1714
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: we heard a room on that Kanye. I think Kanye's

1715
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: first feature was like with you? Is that correct? Yeah?

1716
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: I used to with Kanye back in the days. Wait before,

1717
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Does that mean you don't sunk with them? Now? Yeah?

1718
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Kanye West fan. What was the

1719
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: first time you met met Kanye? The first time I

1720
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: met Kanye Um, I was working on my quality album

1721
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: that I'm not get bias on. I was in Platinum

1722
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: Platinum studios. He came through No Idea or Platinum Mine

1723
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: of studios. You still own that. It's like, that's Platinum studios,

1724
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: that's platinum. Okay. So what student's Latinum island? Which was

1725
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Ken Duro Eiffel Duro? Right, Douro used to be the

1726
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: I had an engineer at Platinum Island. Platinum Island was

1727
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: in the same building or across the same next door

1728
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: to room was next door to Rookoes downtown, right right,

1729
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm working in Platinum Island Studios. Uh huh,

1730
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: and Kanye West come through the door. Now. I'm doing

1731
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: a session from a quality album, and I'm winning the

1732
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,560
Speaker 1: most deaf to show up because most of we have

1733
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: a song on my quality album called Joy. I'm wrapping

1734
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 1: about my kids and my kid's birth, and most def

1735
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: is on it. I took him a long time to

1736
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: record this verse. By this time, he was doing movies.

1737
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: He was blowing up. So I'm trying to get in

1738
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 1: touch on it was hard to get in touch room.

1739
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: Kanye come through the door. I never seen this Nick,

1740
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: never heard this Nick. He said, I'm here to meet

1741
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: most deaf. I said, well, guess what. He might not

1742
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: show up, But who are you? He said, most have

1743
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: told me to meet here? Meet him here. I got

1744
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: some beats, I said, play me the beats. We're gonna album.

1745
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: Kanye played me the Beasts. Every beat that Kanye played me,

1746
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: he played me for beasts at night. All the beats

1747
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: made into my album that makes noise for Kanye being

1748
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: a savage all I said, yo, I said, who I said, now,

1749
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: then beats you Nigga. That that's that's why he got

1750
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: an ego, because Nigga came in. He pitched you for you,

1751
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: bought for y'all living for from now blue. Every time

1752
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: ain't doing anything fucked up, we blame make some noise

1753
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 1: for the reason. I can't believe how good these beats

1754
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: was because I had never heard of him. So I'm like,

1755
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: how have I never heard of you and your beat

1756
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: of this quality? He told me, he said, I did

1757
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: beat on uh d I Angeletti album. Yeah, I did

1758
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: beat on Jamaine dupri album four two. I did beat

1759
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,759
Speaker 1: on Beatie Seagull. He told me he did the Truth

1760
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: and then the Reason Truth, all that, all that Beatie

1761
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Seagull ship. But he said that. That's when I was like,

1762
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: play me some ship. So he did the Gorilla Manshoe rap,

1763
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 1: the good to You to get by all that ship

1764
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: on the Quality album, and um, I just was. And

1765
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: then when I went on tour, Common was on tour

1766
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: doing Electure circus. I was open to act. Kanye was like,

1767
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my music out there. Niggas ain't

1768
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: sucking with me. I said, I said, come on toward me.

1769
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: He came on toward me. He came out every every

1770
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: way way you brought Kanye. When you listen to make

1771
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: some noise for to live bringing, Oh yeah, if I

1772
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: ain't my nigga, Tyler, he's too humble to say that,

1773
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it for him. You listen to the

1774
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: last you ever heard of? Take a bone? Yes I have,

1775
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: I know about. You're not gonna take a shot? Were

1776
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 1: even New York City and I'll take a shot. Hold on.

1777
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you finish your story first. We need

1778
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: more and more Kanyeum, you break it down, We're gonna

1779
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: do the last. He break it down, he said, He

1780
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: said Tyler Quality brought me on tour, perform on the

1781
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 1: tour and ship like. Did he say that? He said

1782
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: that on the last on the song College drop Out.

1783
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: He explained the whole story. I brought him on tour.

1784
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Did you know he was crazy from the beginning? Oh listen,

1785
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: I was when Kanye West, when I first met him out,

1786
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: I said, hold on, y'all, hold on Nick and played

1787
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: me Jesus walks. When I first met the wait the

1788
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: first day you met him, and he probably the first day,

1789
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: maybe the first month or so or lyrics done. This

1790
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: is four or five years before she came out. Didn'

1791
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: nig played me? He played me Dear Mama, not Dear

1792
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: Mama to Hey Mama, La La la la. I said,

1793
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 1: I haven't heard nothing so beautiful in my life. He

1794
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: played me that, He played me Jesus Walks, I said,

1795
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 1: and it was the version that out this. This is

1796
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 1: before he had a deal, before College drop out. He

1797
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: played me Jesus Walks. He played me a bunch of

1798
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: a bunchet of those songs, a bunche of those songs.

1799
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: But I remember Jesus Walks and the Hey Mama. I said,

1800
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: you need to put these ships out now. He said, no, no, no.

1801
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: That's when Nigga said, he said, my first album is

1802
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: before he had a deal, no deal. I want to

1803
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: do what he wanted to do. He said, my first

1804
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: album is called College ramp Out on the songs. My

1805
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: next album is called Late Late Registration. That the that

1806
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Jesus Walks and I mean the Hey Mama. That's gonna

1807
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: be a late registration Jesus Walks walks. It's gonna be

1808
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: my Jesus Walks was calculated from college dropout. But when

1809
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: he put it out, Jesus Walks with a single, he

1810
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: says it on the song, this is my single. Dog

1811
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: radio knees this. He says it on the song. And

1812
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: you knew, and you knew, like did you know he

1813
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 1: was a genius who you just knew? I couldn't to

1814
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: be real with you because niggas used assent tell him

1815
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: who everybody. Kanye had the hot beats, but niggas he

1816
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 1: was trying to sell himself as an artist, and niggas like,

1817
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: we want your beats. But and I used to be

1818
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: like he used. He used to be on the tour

1819
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: bus with us. He used to be rhyming. And he's

1820
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: wrong all the time. Every and you coming to the room,

1821
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: somebody knew coming to the room. He kicked the wrong

1822
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: like I say, I kicked around for you, somebody new

1823
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: coming to room. He kicking the round again for the

1824
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 1: new right. He was geting annoying in sometimes it's annoying.

1825
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: It's thirsty, thirsty, right, thirsty right, but he was he

1826
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: had no bounce, but he knew he was going. He

1827
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: knew he was going. Sometimes being thirsty. He needs listen.

1828
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: When we did we was you know my team, we

1829
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: did the street team for death Jen Rockefeller. Stop that

1830
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: stop that stop that time. And so I'm gonna stop

1831
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: passing you a week, keep giving it away? What was

1832
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean? I'm an interview moved you come on me?

1833
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: And what was he had the joints? When he had

1834
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 1: the when he got into the wire through the wire,

1835
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 1: that was it with? What was was homegirl? On in

1836
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,839
Speaker 1: those school ghokan? Wait? Wait, hold on? Hold on? Nobody

1837
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: asked for shots to take a bone. Hold On said,

1838
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: I come on, did you say I gotta make an

1839
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: appearance at a club? We hadn't show a video right now,

1840
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I gotta give my Kanye story. It's my one and

1841
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: a half Kanye story. Because this is gonnaun everybody like that.

1842
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: Did we drink this? Don't drink water water? We don't

1843
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 1: like water to drink Champs water because I do drink water.

1844
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 1: What I get some water? We got water here water?

1845
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:22,759
Speaker 1: Then with extra HP real real drink real, drink champship

1846
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: because this is how you really do a drink Champs.

1847
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: You drink water so you can keep drinking. Let's make

1848
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: some noise to live, try and be smart. There's nothing

1849
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: smart about this shot me about to take. I'm gonna

1850
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: just throw it out there. You gotta tell your story.

1851
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 1: The story is whack now, by the way, But why

1852
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: were doing We did the promo shot. Gigs was not here.

1853
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 1: We did Deaf Jam, Rockefeller water gone water going. Don't

1854
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: take that shot? Ye, don't take that shot. I got

1855
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: drunker a yeah, but I think you should take the

1856
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: water off the drink champs. How to do it? Drink

1857
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: when I was drink and drink water, bro, I'll the

1858
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: Gaumelet all right, cool wisdom. We need to be hydrated, man,

1859
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: so we can keep drinking. I'm gonna let you get

1860
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: away with this right now. Man, you I want you

1861
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: to drink water because I care about you. You know what.

1862
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: I can't the whole toy. There was like three people

1863
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: who just said then they can't drink water. I'm just

1864
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: landed and just like my story, go ahead, get to

1865
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: it's the story is white now. But you just for

1866
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: got your story. No, no, I don't. I was doing this.

1867
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: I was the street team manager from Miami for Deaf

1868
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: Jam and Rockefeller, and nobody believed in Kanye at Rocket right,

1869
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: so they did not. He leaked that record to remember that,

1870
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 1: and then he paid for the video head for the

1871
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: radio promotion and he has look at that. Nick is

1872
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: changing the rules for you. They got water and ship.

1873
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna water ruining my story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1874
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: I out to talk of ball ahead. So he leaked

1875
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: the record what he lived, and he went to the

1876
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 1: he went to the he went to the Mix Shore

1877
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 1: Power summit in Puerto Rico. I was and we performed it.

1878
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: Commen was then most of them and at the windhom

1879
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Resort in Puerto Rico Rio del Mar. He's still ruining

1880
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: my story. Yeah, we forgot you, so hold me. He

1881
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: organized out of pocket. He told all the reps. Wait, wait,

1882
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: hold on, hold, I'm sorry, Jesus Christy. I'm talking about

1883
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: Michael and the song with jay Z and Kanye and

1884
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: the song when they say uh DJ and Puerto Rico

1885
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: for three days though, that's what you're talking about. Get

1886
01:44:49,520 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: your story. I'm trying to be right. Continue. So you

1887
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: organize the conference call and he gets on the call

1888
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: and it's Kanye the way we know Kanye. He said,

1889
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: must it is hot and he to take it to

1890
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: the radio I'm coming to every market, be ready and

1891
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: to nobody knows. Look how he liked the way he

1892
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: thinks that he came on my Let's make some noise.

1893
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Toland reve we all got mad respect for kan Yea,

1894
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 1: I have way more respect. I don't know why the

1895
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: table just moved, moved that whatever you got super hero

1896
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: straight drinking this crazy? Alright, listen, all right, listen, I'm

1897
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I don't think

1898
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: he was lying before. No, but no, I'm gonna be honest.

1899
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 1: I took a shot with this with Careress one after

1900
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 1: the show. That's impressive. After the show, he was my man.

1901
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: I did investigation on him, like you, I hate you

1902
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 1: straight up. You said you like Hennessy's like the dog,

1903
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't. I said, whatever dog right? He said whatever?

1904
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: But I didn't, you know, Careress, I did a real investigation. Beef,

1905
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: what a relief? When were this poison? This product? Cease

1906
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 1: definitely took it to a different angle when I'm with that.

1907
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: I didn't with that as well. But I I studied

1908
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 1: Caress and I knew he liked it. My ties right,

1909
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 1: so we had the people ties, so we had to

1910
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,799
Speaker 1: be at the It's like it just was my pleasure,

1911
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: like a person I grew up listening to, even though

1912
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm from Queens. I told him the Criminal Mary album,

1913
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 1: It's the only two songs I couldn't listen to because

1914
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: of my you know, loyalty, my loyalty if But now,

1915
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: so I do the investigation. I found out he likes

1916
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: my ties. We get the guys to make the best

1917
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: my ties in the world. We give him enough, we

1918
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: do it. So I had already run in my mind.

1919
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: I think we had a drunk Carress one and we

1920
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: had a drunk but I had one like in my

1921
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: mind it was like, this is Doe because it was interview.

1922
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: We had a little side step with the you know

1923
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: the way he answered it is okay, I've defended him.

1924
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: This is my brother. You know, I love him, and

1925
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: that's it's it's like my lyrical father, you know what

1926
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I did take the shot with Caro

1927
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: Arress after the podcast. Now with that being said, this

1928
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 1: is my during the podcast. No, it was after. Now

1929
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 1: we're doing a shot a tiger bone during the podcast. Now, also,

1930
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: I must warn you, when did we get sushi with

1931
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 1: this when I took the show with Caress, he's my idol.

1932
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: His next started sweat. I knew he was drunk. There's

1933
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: no way your next swat unless you're drunk. Ship when

1934
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: you're next swat. So if our next sway, we're gonna

1935
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: end this interview early, all right, but we gotta yo.

1936
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: He hates this ship. Hey man, you know, listen, we

1937
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: gotta show you how we do this live on drink treat.

1938
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna front. This chair is killed my sa

1939
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 1: I've been I've been trying to drill less. Feel like

1940
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the poet. Let me tell you something.

1941
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: This podcast is ruining my career, everything, everything, everything, You

1942
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: know what. Somebody tweeting me the other day said, thank

1943
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: you knowing for sacrifices. You liver people's life. So liver man,

1944
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 1: that's my liver. All right, listen, So this is how

1945
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 1: we do it, all right. I think that was your drink.

1946
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know which one who is who's drinking? You

1947
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 1: got to all right, you gotta take their glasses all

1948
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: just for this. Yeah, yeah, we gotta see you guys sideways.

1949
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: This is Tiger Bone. Man. You're from New York City.

1950
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: You know alright, respect, I used to I used to drink.

1951
01:48:56,080 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: This is three thousand, all right, I'm done. All right, everybody,

1952
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 1: come on you yea, where you at? Sunny? Your shot?

1953
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 1: Right here? There's your second shot. Okay, I'll take it

1954
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: right now, got it? That was not fair? Oh where

1955
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: my water? Holy Toledo's kid. This is disgusting, man, yo,

1956
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 1: But I even keep drinking his ancient tiny secret broy.

1957
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 1: Somebody gave me a water. They just oh here, Yeah,

1958
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: well you gotta take my ship. Yeah, man, gonna take

1959
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 1: another one toilet? You can't. You can't. That's your that's

1960
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: the other one. That's for the coach. I don't want

1961
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that in my pocket and take it

1962
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 1: with for the coaches. For the coach. I don't take

1963
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: another one toilet. So now now I don't want to

1964
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: stay standing now now, I want to stay standing to

1965
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: stand up there. Yeah, I'm gonna you can stand up.

1966
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: Do what happened. We'll be honest. I'm gonna sit down.

1967
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 1: So it's a stand up. It's okay. Right now, I'm

1968
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: a stand up and stand up to this ship. I

1969
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 1: told you, I told you all tag. Won't change your life, man,

1970
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: change your life. Everybody has a Tiger Bowl story about me.

1971
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 1: You noticed that when you don't see you, you made

1972
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: a decision to become the tag boat guy about I

1973
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: don't know how that has happened. I don't know. Everybody

1974
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 1: has a type hole story. But you you made you did?

1975
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: I remember? I remember I crossed over to the dock

1976
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: side of the decision. He was like, I'm gonna talk

1977
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: about taking bone and every because it's different. You know

1978
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: what it is. It's you legal, That's what it was.

1979
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 1: It was it was, but it was the original Anori mystique. Yeah,

1980
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 1: it was illegal. It's like smoking, like, it's like smoking beats.

1981
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Try to buy a pack of Khalil's Beatis hold on

1982
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: the tib did you say beanies? Beaties? The little the

1983
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 1: little battom ship After after not eleven, they banned Khalil's Beatis.

1984
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 1: Let me used to be they had an association with

1985
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: like some sort of organization. Yeah, so they banned them ships.

1986
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Remember we used to buy them ships in the hood

1987
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: and then one day you couldn't not eleven story? What

1988
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: do you google? It's taking let's take one shot taking

1989
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: ball cock. No, let's just listen. I'll take another shot.

1990
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Of taking bone after I work tonight because I still

1991
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 1: gotta work. No, no, this is that was like a

1992
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: prince's answer. You've been hanging the prince way too much.

1993
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: That was a prince answer. You got one shot right there.

1994
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna join you, not my shot. I don't claim responsibility.

1995
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: You did, you did? You picked up? That was a joke.

1996
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: That was when you pick up two shots to live

1997
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 1: you committed. That was a visual. That's like you you

1998
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 1: can't put the fried chicken back, like when you're in

1999
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 1: the barbecue and you picked up two pieces of chicken

2000
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: at the black barbecue. That's a false equivalence that he got,

2001
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 1: he got way too he I don't even know what

2002
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 1: they were with that prepoly like, I don't know what.

2003
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: Come on, we're gonna do one more shot. See because

2004
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: the chicken you touch the drink is a plastic cup. No,

2005
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: I kind of get too smart on us. We can't

2006
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: let we can't let you get away with that. We

2007
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: can't let you get away with that. If I did

2008
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: my finger in it, or I drink it, it's pretty

2009
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: much the same when you grab it. Watch, I'm gonna

2010
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:35,719
Speaker 1: join you. I'm gonna join you and I've been sucked

2011
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: up all day. You listen. Let me just say something,

2012
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us to the chance we had

2013
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 1: care arrests, drink three shots. We just want you to

2014
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: have to remembut myself. Oh no, my bad, because your

2015
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: your clap was not aggressive at all when you wanted

2016
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: to listen. When you want people to clap to I'll

2017
01:52:52,160 --> 01:53:04,640
Speaker 1: let people to say, listen, is it. Let's make some

2018
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: noise for Tiler trying to get a soft clap out

2019
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: of the drink chaps. We don't do that over here.

2020
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one more shot with you. Yeah, I

2021
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: think that's Michaelas Actually, then that's great. That ba alright cool?

2022
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 1: You want me to help you out. That's the effect

2023
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 1: of moon shine. Yeah, this is this is this is

2024
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: Chinese moon shot. So listen. So how many how many

2025
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: listeners y'all got at this point, were approaching three millions,

2026
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 1: were approaching three million. In April we had two point

2027
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: two millions. So let's make let's make some noise, right

2028
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: we are talking about that one whatever half a million

2029
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: a week, you know what I mean? And three million

2030
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 1: people listen to this bullshit. That's why it's bullshit. Thank

2031
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 1: you so much, yo, telling five, you're absolutely absolutely right.

2032
01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe this bullshit. Bullshit. Listen, every time we speak,

2033
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: we make a podcast every time we speak. And then

2034
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: let me tell you something Nas told me ten years ago.

2035
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why, like we was around like to me,

2036
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 1: Nas told me the internet was going to happen like

2037
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: it was something like we was in something with a

2038
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: black mask, please bridge. I don't know if that was

2039
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: equivalent to what I was thinking of, but but Na, Na,

2040
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 1: we sat and I actually a portfolio. I actually filmed it.

2041
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: It was for what what documentary? And I sat there

2042
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: when I filmed him and we just talked about like

2043
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, no, no, no no, And he told me,

2044
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: he said, someday these people are gonna pay us for

2045
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: our conversation. I thought he meant the internet when the

2046
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Internet got got involved in Twitter, I thought he meant that.

2047
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: But then years later, now I realized that he was

2048
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 1: telling me I was going to have this podcast at

2049
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: each number one and have millions of people listened to

2050
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: our bullshit together as a one because you know what

2051
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: hip hop, classic stories, what the people love, right, And

2052
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna with you. No no, no, She pick up

2053
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: the type of bone. If you could drink that type

2054
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: of bone and drink that Hennessy, I ain't gonna lie

2055
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: you the hardest thing in Brooklyn and Nebraska, you know,

2056
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 1: and get more Hennessy and oh know that's water all right.

2057
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: If you can finish listen, I'm gonna keep it real.

2058
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: Let me drink funk everything else. You can drink this

2059
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: this shot of tyke a ball and then finish your Hennessy.

2060
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: You're the hardest. There's no Hennessy anywhere. No, no, no,

2061
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 1: don't finish that first. That's that's water, all right. He's

2062
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 1: getting ready. Alright, cool, cool, all right, Nebraska and Home

2063
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: and the Dakotas and Brooklyn and Day County, all right,

2064
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: so look and remember take your glasses them. Yeah, Christmas,

2065
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. Yes,

2066
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: I bone get if you gotta take your shot. No,

2067
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: it's like there, just stuck me out. Oh what can

2068
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: I get it? For? What's my fortune? We just drank

2069
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: cat urine ship. I should know jiu jitsu after I

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Speaker 1: drink that ship. Man, Now, are you sure you still?

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Speaker 1: And for this? I gotta work tonight. You can quit.

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01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: You can quit, or you can finish your hand. I

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Speaker 1: want to see if you're a real Brooklyn nigger right now. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the water side of day. Yeah, yeah, you're

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: out of same plenty of water. But I'm gonna keep it.

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Speaker 1: Read Hennessy and Tiger Bone. I don't remember them being

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01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: friends ever. This podcast you usually last like this long. Yes,

2078
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because you know, like I don't listen to podcast,

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Speaker 1: we want you to to. He came in and he

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01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: gave me us against this day. He said, I ain't

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01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 1: listened to all the way I listen to the store.

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01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: And I said thank you, because maybe he was in

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01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 1: the game. Because right now we gotta he gotta work tonight.

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Speaker 1: Pick up your video. You just shot a video. We

2085
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Speaker 1: want to pick that up. Man, Yeah, pick up my video.

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01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: Good girls, good girls. Once again. I was doing the video.

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Speaker 1: I had a conference call with him. Shout Alicia Keys

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Speaker 1: and Rapsody and bust of rounds. He was on the

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Speaker 1: conference call. I went to the I went to the

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Speaker 1: White House. Wait, yeah, let's talk about that. I heard

2091
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: about you never go in the right house after you

2092
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: leave this. Let's hurry up at the White House. I

2093
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 1: heard what Major Keys or he dropped some gems that

2094
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 1: story got out. Yeah. Yeah, the ws A long went off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's make some noise for that. Godamn it. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was the most Let me, let me I heard one story.

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01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 1: Let me just heard one story about the White House. Please,

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01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: everybody be quiet. I heard one story about the White House.

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Speaker 1: I heard that. When back Obama got you all in

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Speaker 1: the room, he said, some of y'all nigga's tax issues

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Speaker 1: ain't right, and y'all might be that, and y'all might

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Speaker 1: be arrested when you leave this property. Is that true?

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01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 1: That's if he said that. Part one is true. Okay,

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01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: part was not. He didn't say you will be arrested. No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't say, but he said, proceed. You're in that story.

2106
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Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna my accounting guys right here, man,

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Speaker 1: he said, he said, called me Obama said, he said, drone.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about criminal justice reform. By the way, Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama has released like hundreds of people. Let's makes a

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01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 1: noise with rock Obamas people. He asked c he has

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Speaker 1: also used drones as a preemptive measure, So don't make

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Speaker 1: no no notice for that. He doesn't it, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: listen to the job of the president. It is not easy.

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Speaker 1: It is to maintain the status quo. But let's stop

2115
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: being serious, right right, let's go, let's get back for

2116
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 1: people want to laugh. We got to get serious. But

2117
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 1: but Rick Ross bracelet went off and that was that

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Speaker 1: was that was great, and Obama said, Obama's and Rick

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Speaker 1: Ross like a true Miami dude and the true Miami

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Speaker 1: dude Rick Russ represented Miami. Wait, wait, no, this is

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Speaker 1: all let's live. The beeping went off and Obama said,

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Speaker 1: what is that? That was that? Obama, he don't know.

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01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 1: He said, what is that? No one knew I heard it,

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Speaker 1: No one knew what that was. And Rick Ross said,

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Speaker 1: that's that criminal justice. Let's make some Louis shout out

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Speaker 1: the city Obama brothers did to talk about criminal justice reform.

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Speaker 1: Rick Ross was like I heard he walked in the

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Speaker 1: room and he said a curse and they made everybody relaxed.

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Speaker 1: He was like what he said something like now he was?

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Speaker 1: He was? He was? He was? He was? He you

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Speaker 1: know what he said. You know, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: what he said. He said, he said, Tyler quality, I

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Speaker 1: love I listen to music. I love listening to music.

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Speaker 1: I listening to the White House and he looked at

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Speaker 1: Asap Rocky. Right, he said, I love your music too,

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Speaker 1: but I can't listen to it in in the house.

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Speaker 1: I put my headphones on, like, yeah, we don't want

2138
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Speaker 1: another shot. Take a ball, right, We're done with that

2139
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Speaker 1: now he could do it. He wants no listen. I

2140
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Speaker 1: want to drink some of his Dame Dash good. Let's go,

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02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: just go, Tyler quality. I can't thank you. I can't

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Speaker 1: thank you enough. Man. I think we covered all grounds.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to say, Tyler? Is

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Speaker 1: there anything you want to say to the people? We

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02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 1: got about like fourth people listening to us right now.

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Speaker 1: People I want to say people, Yeah, don't drink what's

2147
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 1: the drink? Don't eat the yellow snow? Alright right right?

2148
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Speaker 1: Because and the gum under the table is not candy.

2149
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Speaker 1: The gum under the table is not candy. You're Tyler Crawley.

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Speaker 1: You've been a great sport man. We really appreciate you

2151
02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 1: because you know why, you so much positive. You're so

2152
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: much a hip hop activist. You're our version of Al

2153
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Speaker 1: Shopton without the ship. Now that's my nigger. Al Sharpton

2154
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: is a good dude, is it really? However, I am

2155
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: not no, no, no, I mean like you know what

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02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean by you know what I mean what I

2157
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 1: mean by that, I'm sorry, but not when you say no.

2158
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: But what I mean I get it is you you

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Speaker 1: the guy, like yeah, when you knew it they called Michael, Malcolm,

2160
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Speaker 1: Max with all other people with all respect, that's who

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Speaker 1: you are, for respect to them. Yeah, and I feel

2162
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Speaker 1: like I'm here the CBS ad coming in a train

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Speaker 1: like CBS the train to listen. But I feel like

2164
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Speaker 1: you're the guy. I think that's whenever ye y'all sabotaged

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Speaker 1: us last week, we understand y'all. Motherfucker Wilson. Yeah, let

2166
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Speaker 1: me just say this real quickly. Yeah, please, Elliott Wilson,

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Speaker 1: you have a bunch of niggas that do not deserve

2168
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Speaker 1: interviews before Tyler Coley. I don't know where this is going,

2169
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Speaker 1: but I'm with you wherever you want to take when,

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Speaker 1: wherever you want to take it, Elliot, I love Elliott.

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02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: Why Elliott put on ra Raid not rap Radar. Gave

2172
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Speaker 1: me a lot of love, but rap Radar podcast, I've

2173
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Speaker 1: never been shots rap radar. They give me a lot

2174
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Speaker 1: of but all the way the little talks he'd be having,

2175
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 1: but I'm only saying this because I have a new

2176
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Speaker 1: album coming out, right. But he never put your on

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Speaker 1: rap Radar podcast that the little Talks. He'd be having

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Speaker 1: a little sund millions high five. But let's be clear,

2179
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Speaker 1: we didn't shout because you had a new album. Let's

2180
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Speaker 1: you are friends. Let's let me let me shout out.

2181
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: Kay Valentine, Um from Chicago were dropping her album voted media.

2182
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Speaker 1: Nico is. Nico is from Orlando, Florida. He was very excited,

2183
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Speaker 1: he said, he said, what you're doing, drink Champs. Nico

2184
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Speaker 1: hits me up. Nico was very excited. Now I was

2185
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Speaker 1: really cool. I was already excited to do drink Champs,

2186
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: but Nico made me more excited. Elliot Wilson, this is

2187
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Speaker 1: my nigga. You know what I'm saying, Like, listen, but

2188
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to accept. You know, let's keep it real.

2189
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Speaker 1: Let's just keep it real. You're saying he didn't want

2190
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Speaker 1: to accept. No, this is what I'm saying. I'm up

2191
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Speaker 1: again the Alligators as we are. We are capitalized with

2192
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Speaker 1: funk up. Elliott Wilson. Everybody you're telling you listen any

2193
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Speaker 1: times and be out and they don't answer you you

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Speaker 1: know my phone still were wrapping. Yeah, we're raping. We're

2195
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Speaker 1: inside the NBA, were inside. Just DJ j I never

2196
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Speaker 1: never don't know what I'm saying. We wrapping. DJ can say, DJ,

2197
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Speaker 1: I gotta listen rocket for you. I mean, you're the

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Speaker 1: rap problem, DJ Jeff will Smith. There we go shout

2199
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Speaker 1: out to be and el A Wilson. They important participants

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Speaker 1: CONTU because up we always. I'm just saying that because

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Speaker 1: I have a new album coming out and if I

2202
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Speaker 1: do interview on them, I get to promote my whatever.

2203
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Speaker 1: But but they didn't ask you to come on first,

2204
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 1: because he wants to interview people who have trends, but

2205
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Speaker 1: he don't understand that I'm making a trends telling. I'm

2206
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Speaker 1: wait bigger than you've been. We've been transcending ship forever.

2207
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Speaker 1: Niggad We had an apartment in South Africa. Nigga like

2208
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Speaker 1: my nigga like like this is the thing is like

2209
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Speaker 1: I interviewed legends. I interview people who know they used

2210
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Speaker 1: that word relevant. We don't need, we don't overhead, we

2211
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Speaker 1: make it. We use that word. Yeah, when you're not

2212
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Speaker 1: depending on the relevancy all that that dumb ship. Yeah,

2213
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Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't know. I don't know

2214
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Speaker 1: how to do that. Don't just representative moment, priss. But

2215
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Speaker 1: YO was just whipping the names. Yeah, I was trying

2216
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Speaker 1: to win the name name Tyler. Listen, let me thank

2217
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Speaker 1: you man for coming through me in the NFL. You

2218
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Speaker 1: know we were tarded people. We're both in here together

2219
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Speaker 1: and we really want to thank you for coming here

2220
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Speaker 1: being a great sport. And you are drunk, drunk, and

2221
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Speaker 1: I came here in the tank top. This is the

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Speaker 1: first time in my You like m a threst. You

2223
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Speaker 1: got mad tattoos, You're like a thrust. You don't want

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Speaker 1: the Spanish games down where He's done with eighteen street games?

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Speaker 1: What the I got locked out of my hotel? What

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Speaker 1: the F? I just wi? I got a text while

2227
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Speaker 1: I was on your shotop ridding them Airbnbs come back

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Speaker 1: to Stars. I'm back to Star. I got locked out,

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Speaker 1: but now I got my clothes back. This makes some noise.

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Speaker 1: Fam games close back. I'm gonna stop smoking this too.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. Is this the plastic greed? I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. You know you don't remember why I handed

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Speaker 1: the carrass Harro said stop car, no, no, No, Carross

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Speaker 1: would have smoked up. No, he wanted to joint. Remember

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Speaker 1: Carross wanted to join Tyler Quality. Thank you for hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us, man. We really appreciate that that bottle

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