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Speaker 1: Hey there, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh. Chuck is

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Speaker 1: with me as always prison couldn't live without him. You

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Speaker 1: put the two of us together, you get a lumpy

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Speaker 1: little podcast called Stuff you Should Know, right, Chuck. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you guys are listening to now. And if

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Speaker 1: you are listening to this on its original publishing date,

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Speaker 1: you should be nervous because that means that tomorrow is Friday. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: and before we really get started, Chuck, I think we

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Speaker 1: should give a proper shout out to two of our listeners,

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Speaker 1: Camera Clark and Party Gabriel. Right, this is actually a

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Speaker 1: listeners suggestion. Yes, this is our second one. The first

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Speaker 1: one's body Armory. Yeah, um and uh. Both the Cameron

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Speaker 1: and Party independently suggested that we do a podcast on

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Speaker 1: Friday thirteen, and um, we haven't gotten to the bottom

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Speaker 1: whether or not they're separated at birth or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But it's a swell, Ida it is. It is so

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Speaker 1: here we are right the day before. So chuck, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm well, actually I'm a terribly superstitious person. I can't

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Speaker 1: you like that? Uh? No, I'm not really that superstitious,

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Speaker 1: things about it. Okay, one thing, I am of less

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Speaker 1: same thing. Um, So Chuck, I guess what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: That is awesome, thank you very hard. It looks like

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Speaker 1: like all consonants. Um. But that is the actual fear

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