WEBVTT - Mainstream Media Sanewashing

0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Peeve Send Welcome to WOKAP Daily with me

0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>your girl Danielle Moody pre recording from the home Bunker. Folks,

0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I am super, super excited to bring to you the

0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.200
<v Speaker 1>conversation that I have been waiting to bring to you

0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.960
<v Speaker 1>all for a couple of weeks. Now you have heard

0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>me use the term sane washing, right, This idea that

0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the media has been interpreting Donald Trump's absolute, incoherent ramblings

0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and dissecting them and then presenting the public with what

0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.760
<v Speaker 1>they deem to be the kernels of truth and intellect

0:00:54.880 --> 0:01:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that are at the core of his ramblings. And journalist

0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:05.839
<v Speaker 1>Parker malloy coined the term in The New Republic, say

0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>washing this idea that we're going to take incoherent and

0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:16.039
<v Speaker 1>crazy ramblings and that everyone from the New York Times

0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.119
<v Speaker 1>to the Associated Press and others are going to make

0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.080
<v Speaker 1>sense out of Donald Trump's nonsense and sell it to

0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.040
<v Speaker 1>us as if he's a normal candidate and this election

0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>is in a normal place, so that they can give

0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:33.000
<v Speaker 1>us the horse race bullshit that they love to do.

0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.000
<v Speaker 1>The reality is is that Donald Trump is not sane.

0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.120
<v Speaker 1>He is not normal, and the media needs to stop

0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.679
<v Speaker 1>fucking treating him that way. And frankly, you know, I

0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.959
<v Speaker 1>set this on Monday with regard to Maggie Haberman and

0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:51.040
<v Speaker 1>her recent comments at NPR talking about how the left

0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:55.400
<v Speaker 1>is going after, you know, journalists and undermining people's faith

0:01:55.480 --> 0:02:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in journalism. No, your fucking Saine washing is undermining people's

0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:05.120
<v Speaker 1>faith in journalism. And they are realizing right that you

0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:11.800
<v Speaker 1>have become absolutely unreliable because you need to hear Donald

0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Trump for yourself. And then you would wonder how the

0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.240
<v Speaker 1>fuck did they get a topic and a headline on

0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.120
<v Speaker 1>economic policy when all the man did would spout the

0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.000
<v Speaker 1>word tariffs and say the word economy. But if you

0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:31.080
<v Speaker 1>were just reading what these outlets write and not listening

0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to what Donald Trump is saying at these rallies, saying

0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.600
<v Speaker 1>in these spaces, you would think that he's completely normal,

0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:42.119
<v Speaker 1>when in fact, he fucking is not. And most recently, right,

0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was speaking to a Jewish group to where

0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he told them that if he loses this election, it

0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.799
<v Speaker 1>is going to be Jewish people's fault and things could

0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:58.040
<v Speaker 1>get wild. Wait what, yep, folks, that actually happened. He

0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.680
<v Speaker 1>actually said it. And if you have not watched the

0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:07.200
<v Speaker 1>episode of Democracy Ish from Friday, September twentieth. I urge

0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you to go ahead and listen or head over to

0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:14.000
<v Speaker 1>my YouTube channel at Danielle Moody Underscore and watch that

0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.960
<v Speaker 1>episode so that you can see that video that watch

0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and I discuss over there, because folks, let me tell you,

0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he is planting the seeds for violence as well as

0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.239
<v Speaker 1>all of the election interference that is happening in Georgia,

0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.560
<v Speaker 1>in Nebraska and in other places. They are fit to

0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>take this election regardless of what it is that the

0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.440
<v Speaker 1>people vote for. They are no longer going to take

0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.200
<v Speaker 1>our votes as our bond. They are going to manipulate,

0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.520
<v Speaker 1>they are going to lie, they are going to use

0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:51.320
<v Speaker 1>stochastic terrorism and more because they cannot win without it.

0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:56.240
<v Speaker 1>So coming up next my conversation with journalists Parker Maloy.

0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I am super excited to welcome I think for the

0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.200
<v Speaker 1>first time. I'm not one hundred percent sure, Parker, because

0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I talk to you in my head after I read,

0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.120
<v Speaker 1>after I read your pieces all the time, I'm just like,

0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.880
<v Speaker 1>m hmm, that's right. But to welcome to ok F

0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Daily for I think the first time award winning journalist

0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.800
<v Speaker 1>who writes at the New Republic who has a newsletter

0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.320
<v Speaker 1>called The present Age that you all can subscribe to,

0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and as most recently written a piece that allowed for

0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>us to put a definition, a name, and a definition

0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to what the media has been doing around Donald Trump,

0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.839
<v Speaker 1>which is sane washing. In Parker Maloy's piece at The

0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:52.080
<v Speaker 1>New Republic, how the media sanitizes Trump's insanity. The political

0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:57.040
<v Speaker 1>press's efforts to rationalize Trump's incoherent statements are eroding our

0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:03.680
<v Speaker 1>shared reality and threatening in form democracy. Parker, I come

0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to you today after a weekend where, according to reports,

0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:16.159
<v Speaker 1>there was a second attempt on Donald Trump's life. A

0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.440
<v Speaker 1>man was found with a rifle and a scope in

0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the bushes at one of his golf horses and has

0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:31.840
<v Speaker 1>been arrested. And Donald Trump found himself on social media

0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:36.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about how the rhetoric on the left is what

0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.040
<v Speaker 1>has led to these attempts on his life, with other

0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Republicans echoing this same foolishness or what I like to

0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.159
<v Speaker 1>call what is that word, oh, a lie about the

0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.760
<v Speaker 1>rhetoric on the left. Talk to us about this moment

0:05:55.000 --> 0:06:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in the context of sinewashing and how we find ourselves

0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.479
<v Speaker 1>else here.

0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so, yeah, so basically just for anyone who hasn't

0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.760
<v Speaker 2>read the piece, I'll kind of do a quick overview

0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.120
<v Speaker 2>of sainwashing. So sain washing is something that I had

0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.760
<v Speaker 2>been calling coherence bias, which is this idea that in

0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.800
<v Speaker 2>the news, you know, it's natural for journalists to want

0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to make things sound normal, grammatically correct, to make sense.

0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.520
<v Speaker 2>And in ninety nine percent of cases that's fine. You know,

0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.360
<v Speaker 2>if you're talking to someone whose house just got demolished

0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:33.200
<v Speaker 2>by a hurricane, you're not going to quote their rambling

0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:38.599
<v Speaker 2>statement with all the ums and ohs and all that verbatim.

0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.520
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna write something like John Smith, whose house was

0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.320
<v Speaker 2>just lost in the hurricane, said he was devastated. And

0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, but when it comes to Donald Trump, doing

0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:55.719
<v Speaker 2>that has a nasty side effect. You're essentially sanitizing what

0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.320
<v Speaker 2>he's saying, because in his case, he's never just saying

0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.600
<v Speaker 2>that he agrees to a debate. He says he agrees

0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.800
<v Speaker 2>to a debate against Comrade Kamala Harris and the radical

0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.360
<v Speaker 2>left Democrats, Crooked Joe Biden, and ABC fake news. You know.

0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of this idea of sainwashing, where you'll

0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.240
<v Speaker 2>take this rambling statement and then you'll present it in

0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a way that's made for the general public. You know,

0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.880
<v Speaker 2>it presents him as is more put together than he

0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:31.600
<v Speaker 2>actually is. And I think that over the weekend this

0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.520
<v Speaker 2>past week, basically the town of Springfield, Ohio has been

0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.480
<v Speaker 2>terrorized by a lot of this language that Trump in

0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.360
<v Speaker 2>vance and a lot of others on the right have

0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.600
<v Speaker 2>been pushing, arguing that Haitian immigrants have been stealing people's

0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.000
<v Speaker 2>pets and eating them. And there's no factual basis to this.

0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just a racist lie. And so they've been pushing that.

0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.200
<v Speaker 2>And then on Sunday do you have someone show up

0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to Trump's goll of course, apparently with the gun, and

0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the Secret Service considers an assassination attempt, but they stopped

0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the guy before he got there, you know, which is

0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.120
<v Speaker 2>great and all. But then Trump takes to truth social

0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.520
<v Speaker 2>as he does, and he writes this thing where the

0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:21.400
<v Speaker 2>first half I find fascinating because he says the rhetoric

0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:26.120
<v Speaker 2>lies exemplified by the false statements made by Comrade Kamala

0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Harris during the rigged and highly partisan ABC debate and

0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:34.080
<v Speaker 2>all the ridiculous lawsuits specifically designed to inflict damage on

0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Joe's then Kamala's political opponent, me has taken politics in

0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.360
<v Speaker 2>our country to a whole new level of hatred, abuse,

0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and distrust because of this communist left rhetoric. The bullets

0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.160
<v Speaker 2>are flying and it will only get worse. And then

0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.120
<v Speaker 2>he goes and starts talking about He says, allowing millions

0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.360
<v Speaker 2>of people from places unknown to invade and take over

0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.000
<v Speaker 2>our country is an unpardonable sin. Our borders must be

0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.559
<v Speaker 2>closed and the terrorist, criminals and mentally insane immediately removed

0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.600
<v Speaker 2>from American cities towns to ported back to their countries

0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.000
<v Speaker 2>of origin. We want people to come and through countries.

0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah, blah, blah blah. So he has this thing

0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.440
<v Speaker 2>where he's complaining about rhetoric as he uses some of

0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the most wild rhetoric possible. He's adding insults to people's names.

0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.720
<v Speaker 2>He's trying to blame Democrats for what they've been doing.

0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.400
<v Speaker 2>But one thing I find really kind of funny about

0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:34.120
<v Speaker 2>this is that it was just, you know, over the weekend, JD.

0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Vance was asked about Trump's rhetoric, and he said, to

0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.679
<v Speaker 2>try to distance himself from the people making bomb threats

0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.960
<v Speaker 2>against places in Springfield. So are we not allowed to

0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about these problems because some psychopaths are threatening violence,

0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and that was his excuse. And so I think that

0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:57.400
<v Speaker 2>right now there's this sense after the assassination attempt where

0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.800
<v Speaker 2>someone actually shot at him, the press kind of went

0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:04.440
<v Speaker 2>in to this kind of protective cocoon surrounding him, and

0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.559
<v Speaker 2>it was it was very much, you know, they were

0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.640
<v Speaker 2>projecting all of these things onto him, saying he had changed,

0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.200
<v Speaker 2>he was nicer, he was toning it down, and he

0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted the whole country to tone it down. And of

0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:15.640
<v Speaker 2>course that didn't last.

0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.239
<v Speaker 1>By the time he had gotten pulled off the stage.

0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was already fight fight fight corral. So I mean,

0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.959
<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things that I'm curious to see

0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.319
<v Speaker 2>how in the next few days, how the press covers

0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:36.000
<v Speaker 2>this sort of attempt to blame the left and blame

0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.680
<v Speaker 2>rhetoric on the left, because what they essentially want is

0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:46.520
<v Speaker 2>unilateral rhetorical disarmament. To basically say, people on the left, Democrats,

0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you're not allowed to campaign against Trump, but he's allowed

0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.560
<v Speaker 2>to call you all sorts of names. He's allowed to

0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:57.599
<v Speaker 2>demonize whatever group he wants, and you're not allowed to

0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:02.840
<v Speaker 2>say that that's bad and it's insulting. It's insulting to voters,

0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.160
<v Speaker 2>to readers, to journalists, and I hope that journalists see

0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:11.640
<v Speaker 2>through that and don't parrot that line.

0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're seeing it. And I asked

0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.720
<v Speaker 1>this because I don't know if it's just a hope

0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.679
<v Speaker 1>of mine or it's actually happening, which is even when

0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Jade Vance was sitting down with Dana Bash on CNN

0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and for the first time that I have ever seen,

0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Dana Bash actually pushed back against a Republican and say,

0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.000
<v Speaker 1>let me stop you right there when he was repeating

0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the lies about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, that's not true.

0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So city officials, the sheriff have all come out and said,

0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.480
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is not true. But what is true

0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.840
<v Speaker 1>is that, in the course of a week that you all,

0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you and Donald Trump have been escalating the rhetoric, there

0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.760
<v Speaker 1>have in fact been bomb threats. There have in fact

0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.960
<v Speaker 1>been hospitals that have been closed down. His response to

0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.960
<v Speaker 1>her rightfully connecting the dots and putting together the timeline

0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:09.160
<v Speaker 1>for the viewers was She's disgusting for even insinuating that

0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.040
<v Speaker 1>his rhetoric could lead to any type of violence. So

0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how, And I honestly I think that what

0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I am seeing because frankly, this is not top story today,

0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the assassination attempt. There are like eighteen other stories that

0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.360
<v Speaker 1>are trending on top of this. So what does that

0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.840
<v Speaker 1>say to you, Parker, when you're looking at and we

0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.440
<v Speaker 1>follow what is trending, what people are in conversation about.

0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I see more people saying something to the

0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.920
<v Speaker 1>effect of it seems that every time that's Donald Trump

0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is down in the polls, something you know, outlandish happens

0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.200
<v Speaker 1>right to keep his name in the press. And so

0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.920
<v Speaker 1>are you sensing a bit of exhaustion, a bit of

0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like hole humness with regard to something that, let's just

0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.400
<v Speaker 1>be honest, ninety year years ago happening would have literally

0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:03.400
<v Speaker 1>stopped the presses.

0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think people are tired of Donald

0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Trump just consuming their lives. You know. There's an Onion

0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:17.520
<v Speaker 2>article written from Trump's perspective that came out and I

0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.120
<v Speaker 2>think twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, and it's headlined with

0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.199
<v Speaker 2>something like happy Monday, everyone, I'm here to infect every

0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.360
<v Speaker 2>moment of your daily life by Donald Trump, you know,

0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was about how everything everything from sports to

0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:37.959
<v Speaker 2>culture to just everything he had put himself into it,

0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think people are kind of just tired of it.

0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, it's horrible that a guy showed up

0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.760
<v Speaker 2>to his club with a gun, and I think that

0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously it has to be covered. But I think a

0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:57.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are just like, I'm exhausted, get this

0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.319
<v Speaker 2>guy out of my news. They want to they want

0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to hit mute on Donald Trump. Yeah, they just want

0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to move on. And I think that that's really what

0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the Harris campaign has going for it in a big way,

0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.040
<v Speaker 2>is that a lot of people are just tired of

0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump being everywhere all of the time. And it

0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.960
<v Speaker 2>seemed for a brief moment at the beginning of the

0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Biden administration that there was maybe hope that Trump would

0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.320
<v Speaker 2>would kind of fade away, and that was you know,

0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that there were a fair number of Republicans

0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.360
<v Speaker 2>who hoped that that would happen too, because they don't

0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.440
<v Speaker 2>have to then push back against him, they don't have

0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.560
<v Speaker 2>to make excuses for him. It was a chance to

0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.200
<v Speaker 2>move on, but they didn't take it. And Trump came

0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.720
<v Speaker 2>back and they embraced him and they had him speaking

0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.080
<v Speaker 2>at events, and you know, I think it worked to

0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:50.280
<v Speaker 2>his advantage. Honestly that he was suspended from Facebook and

0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Twitter for as long as he was because it helped

0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:58.000
<v Speaker 2>people kind of forget forget Trump, forget his how outlandish

0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.840
<v Speaker 2>he was, which allowed him to kind of creep back

0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.480
<v Speaker 2>in and it's like, oh, Okay, maybe it wasn't that bad.

0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he wasn't everywhere, maybe he didn't infect our lives

0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that way. And then he starts running for president again

0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:15.280
<v Speaker 2>and everything is just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump constantly,

0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, I mean after that, after even after

0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the first assassination attempt where someone shot at him and

0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.800
<v Speaker 2>killed another person, after that, it's kind of amazing how

0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.840
<v Speaker 2>that just sort of faded in right away. Yeah, it's

0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.240
<v Speaker 2>there was just so little curiosity about it. It's just like, well,

0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that happened.

0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.280
<v Speaker 1>It was a Monday, like you know exactly. I think

0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.600
<v Speaker 1>too to all of the points you're making, And actually

0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I believe that the Harris Walls campaign pushed out it

0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was a picture of a flag in front of it

0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:58.640
<v Speaker 1>was typed out, exhausted period, Harris Walls, that was their ad.

0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that to mark that point about why

0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.360
<v Speaker 1>these stories are not sticking in the way that they

0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.120
<v Speaker 1>would have, is that people are over it. They are like,

0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like the circus is only entertaining for so long

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you buy a ticket once you're amazed, ooh ah. But

0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.360
<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to the circus every single week and

0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>there is no change in the performer or the performances,

0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.440
<v Speaker 1>then at some point in the time, I'm going to

0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.680
<v Speaker 1>be like, I actually hate this and not even I

0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like the circus and I don't want to go.

0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually hate it now. Yeah, And I think that

0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that is where we are with Donald Trump absolutely.

0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you think about it, it's just like

0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like I don't think about Joe Biden every day. No,

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.160
<v Speaker 2>he does not pop into my head. I just assume

0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that he's doing president things and you know, if I want,

0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I can look it up and find out exactly what

0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.280
<v Speaker 2>those things are. It's not blasted to me constantly. And

0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope that if Kamala Harris gets elected, I hope

0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the same thing happened, yes, where she's just doing her thing.

0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.080
<v Speaker 2>And obviously, like we follow politics closely, so it's like

0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.320
<v Speaker 2>we'll be aware of all of this, but it won't

0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.639
<v Speaker 2>just be everywhere all of the time, And that I

0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.119
<v Speaker 2>think is really where the public is.

0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.919
<v Speaker 1>You use the right word, which is infected. It's like,

0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.160
<v Speaker 1>what does the cure look like? Because the infection has

0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.399
<v Speaker 1>spread over the last close to a decade now. And

0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that what makes me worried, and this is

0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.479
<v Speaker 1>a question for you, what makes me worried though about

0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:38.280
<v Speaker 1>how these stories around these attempts on Trump, attempts on

0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:43.000
<v Speaker 1>his life is how quickly they fade. Is that also

0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.040
<v Speaker 1>not just a testament to our level of exhaustion, but

0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:51.159
<v Speaker 1>also going back to your piece sanitizing the amount of

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.560
<v Speaker 1>violence that we've been willing to ingest and just considered

0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.320
<v Speaker 1>normal in our everyday politics. Yeah, And I think that

0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that's it speaks to how we're kind of desensitized to

0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:09.040
<v Speaker 1>everything that's happening around us, and that's not necessarily.

0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.120
<v Speaker 2>A good thing. When you think about school shooting used

0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 2>to be a huge deal. Columbine happens and the whole

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:19.520
<v Speaker 2>country comes to a halt. Now school shooting happens and

0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 2>we go, Okay, that was Thursday, you know, like it's

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.880
<v Speaker 2>just a day. It's just something that we expect to happen. Now.

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 2>The only time it becomes news is if it's an

0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.679
<v Speaker 2>especially large school shooting, right, And I think that with Trump,

0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:39.399
<v Speaker 2>it's the same way if every day. You know, Hillary

0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Clinton one time said that half of Trump's supporters were

0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.359
<v Speaker 2>deplorable while the other half were you know, everyone always

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.840
<v Speaker 2>leaves that that second half of her quote, where she's like,

0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.720
<v Speaker 2>the other half you can't write off. So she said

0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that once and it was news for weeks. You know,

0:18:55.720 --> 0:19:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Trump says something completely bonkers and it's in the news

0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.960
<v Speaker 2>for a couple hours because he's going to say something else,

0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 2>because he's gonna he's going to bury it. And everything

0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 2>that he does, it's just one thing on top of another,

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 2>on top of another, and we eventually, you know, you

0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 2>start to tune it out, and even the big things,

0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 2>even even someone showing up at his club with a gun,

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:25.159
<v Speaker 2>ends up being something that the public is just tuned

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.919
<v Speaker 2>out of. And you know, I don't blame the public

0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:29.679
<v Speaker 2>for wanting to tune out of that.

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that it's the

0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.160
<v Speaker 1>reason why your piece stood out to me so much

0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.399
<v Speaker 1>is because I have been tuning out so much because

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.440
<v Speaker 1>none of it has made sense, and I have felt

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.639
<v Speaker 1>crazy most of the time reading the news and trying

0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to keep track of the insanity. And when you gave

0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it a name, and I said, oh got it. I'm

0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>not crazy because here is somebody else that thinks that way.

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I want us to tune back in, but I want

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 1>us to tune into truth and I I think that

0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.959
<v Speaker 1>that's where journalists like yourself come into play. So Parker,

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:09.199
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for your work, for making the

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>time to join me here on WOKF. Please tell folks

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 1>how they can follow you and just stay up to

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 1>date with all of your amazing content.

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely thanks for having me. People can follow me on

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:26.919
<v Speaker 2>social media. My handle is just Parker Moloy pretty much everywhere.

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 2>You could subscribe to the present age at read tpa

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Amazing Parker, Thank you so much and I hope to

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to you again soon. That is it for me today,

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>dear friends on wok F. As always, power to the

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>people and to all the people. Power, get woke and

0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>stay woke as fuck.