1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: This is Reggie Kelly kicking in with my boys Peanut 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: and Roman on NFL Players Second Act Podcast. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Players Second 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: Act Podcast. I'm Peanut to Himan and with me as 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: always my guy rooman Rebbi Harper. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: He calls me, he calls me now because he had 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: a taste of my my delicious rabbis and uh. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 4: By far, the best steak I've ever had in my life. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 4: I kid you not, but we'll get a little bit more. 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: Let me let's thank all of our listeners and viewers 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: out there and let them know where we are. 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: Peanut. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: That is the iHeart Radio Studios right here in Atlanta, 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: a town. Yeah, so we're in Atlanta this week. Uh, 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: it's fun, it's going. We got a lot of different 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: guests coming in. Let's let's jump right into our first one. 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: All right, this first one, it's a goodie. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: This gentleman was a same around pick like the two 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: of us. Forty second overall absolutely class ninety nine. Played 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: thirteen seasons with the Bengals and the Falcons. After football, 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: he got into the food business. Uh. He is the 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: founder of Kivan Foods, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: the show, mister Reggie Killer. 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 5: And by the way, you got it right the first time. 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: Most people butchers that butcher. 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: So what's the. 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Worst Cayvan Cavan, whatever the case may be, but Kyvin Foods. 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 5: You hit it right on the now the first, cool, 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: cool good. That's a professional research. 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: If you look at my notes, I have it like 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: the way I have it. I have the phonetic form, 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: so I wouldn't mess it up myself, somorr. 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 5: I wanted to make. 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: Sure because I didn't write it that way I would 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: have had I would have the van park. 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: But that's why Peanuts the real professional around here. 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, I feel naked up here. You you have notes, 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: You have notes. I have nothing. So I'm hoping I 40 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: can hope my weight here, hoping I can hold my own. 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: Now, you're going to answer everything truthful. You you're an 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: expert on yourself. 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 5: Let's get it. 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: Let's jump off into it though. 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: How do you feel A recent accomplishment about yourself is 46 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: that you were named in twenty twenty. 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: Three and SEC football legend. How did that feel? 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: Well? 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: It felt absolutely great. My athletic director Assissippi State gave 50 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: me a call Zach Selma, who is doing it excellent? 51 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: Yes, he's doing an outstanding john. 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, he has a great pedigree, come from a 53 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: football family, and just a great guy overall. He knows 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: the business inside and out. So he gave me a 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: personal call to let me know that I had received 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: such a great honor, and he told me he would 57 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: be there to support me. If there's anything that I needed, 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: he would definitely be there. And so he gave me 59 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: the call, and quite honest with you, day surpassed all 60 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: of my expectations. 61 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: Right. 62 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I was with some of the greats. Hall of Famer 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Willis. Yeah, was still Chase Kaufman, Andre Smith, along 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: with so many other graatce like Shane Matthews as well. 65 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: And man, they laid it out, I mean, first class everything. 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: They put us up at the Hyatt Regency and they 67 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: treated us like kings. And I had the opportunity to 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: celebrate with my wife and with my son who's a 69 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: football fanatic, so he saw somebody greats as well. Yeah, 70 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: it was a great experience, a great weekend. 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: Guys. 72 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: Hey tell me this though. 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: I got one more follow up is like, did you 74 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: ever feel that you know when you get an honor, 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: so so much further after you've done hanging it up, right, 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: do you feel a little bit forgotten And all of 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: a sudden you get that call and you're like. 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: Man, I'm not forgotten about They do remember. 79 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 5: Me, you know. 80 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Man, I actually felt extremely grateful because you know, I 81 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: grew up next door to my grandmother, right, yeah, and 82 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: my grandmother always told me anytime somebody does something good 83 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: for you, be appreciative and say thank you absolutely regards 84 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: if it's in the short term or the long term. 85 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: So whenever I got that call, I was just like, man, 86 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm extremely grateful that they thought enough of me, they 87 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: thought enough of my game, what I did on the football, 88 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: feel my body at work, if you will, and they 89 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: decided to select me to this great honor. So because 90 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: of it, man, I didn't feel slighted as if, like, man, 91 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: it took a lot own time. I was like, well, 92 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: it came right on time, right, and I'm extremely the great. 93 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: So it's an SEC legend, right or a football legend? 94 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Is that equivalent to like a Hall of Fame just 95 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: in the SEC conference? Is that is that kind of 96 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: what's the equivalent? 97 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: Bro? 98 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 5: Don't give us a spill onint Man. 99 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: So I would say yes in the short terms, because 100 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: the college football has its own Hall of Fame and 101 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: to only you can only be elected to the College 102 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame if you're an ap All American. 103 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: So for a lot of players who are not selected 104 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: to be All American, but we're still truly great at 105 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: their own school or within the SEC, it's another way 106 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: to honor those guys. And I think the ads in 107 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: the SEC do a great job of really trying to, 108 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: you know, find two comb things of their own university 109 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: so they can be represented there. And it's a great 110 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: time for a place like Mississippi State to say, hey, 111 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: we still got some greats out there have not been 112 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: honored with these things. 113 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: So shout out to Reggie for being that. 114 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, getting coming from Missippi State. We need some type 115 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: of positive. 116 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I know you're got to get on it. 117 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: I just think they don't have enough yet. 118 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: Yeah that's a key word. Yeah, Yeah, it's coming down 119 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 5: the road. 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: I agree. So I want to transition. 121 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: You make it to the league in ninety nine, what 122 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: was that welcome to the NFL moment? 123 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 4: I know we all play, we're all second round picks. 124 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: And you know, we all had that that time where 125 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: we got to hit or something happened in the league 126 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: and we were like, damn, this this is the league. 127 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: I'm with the big boys. Now, yeah, what was that 128 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: moment for you? 129 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: But it happened in training camp, right, I'm not sure 130 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: you guys remember Jesse the hammer? Yeah, yep, yeah, the hammer. 131 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: Though let's less than the hammer, that's the opportitive word 132 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: right now. And so during training camp, you know, I 133 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: was I was known as a blocker, you know, that 134 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: was my fortaeled guy that works extremely hard, a guy 135 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: is going to play through the whistle, a guy that's 136 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: extremely extremely physical. So that's what I brought to the table. 137 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: And I'm quite sure that the veterans did their homework 138 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: and they didn't want to be a statistic, right, especially 139 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: from a rookie coming in. And so I was having 140 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: excellent training camp my rookie year, getting out the folks 141 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: until I met the Hammer. And the Hammer his reputation 142 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: suits him, and so I was blocking the play and 143 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: blocking down. I'm on a gap style play, blockdown on 144 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the hammer, and he absolutely laid me out. I had 145 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: never in my life experienced that type of hit. That 146 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: type of pain and that type of embarrassment to the 147 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: point where all the veterans and welcome to the NFL, 148 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: rook Welcome to the NFL. And that was what he 149 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: was known for, physical play. But as I continued to 150 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: practice and continue to play, you know in the NFL, 151 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: I saw man, you know, I just can't rely on 152 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: my skill set. I can't just rely on my physical attributes. 153 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: I really have to study the game. I really have 154 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: to do a good job of just pruning my skill 155 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: set and understand, it's all about angles, it's all about leverage, 156 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: it's all about footwork, it's all about having your hands 157 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: in the right position. And if I do that, and 158 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: I do that at a consistent level, then I can 159 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: play on the same level as these guys. I be 160 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: the one welcome in the rookies to the NFL and 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: then letting the wood on those guys. So that was 162 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: my welcome to the NFL moment. And guys like Chuck Smith, 163 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: guys like Jesse Tuggle, they taught me how to be 164 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: a pro, taught me how to get out the people. 165 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: They should tell me, don't have a problem taking a 166 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: man's heart, do not have a problem taking that heart, 167 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: because if you do that early and often, it gives 168 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: you a better chance to succeed on this level. 169 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Like that, do you think we've kind of lost a 170 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: little bit of that, like trying to take a know 171 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: the man's heart. Like when I went to Carolina TD 172 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Thomas Davis, he would say, we got to take them 173 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: to a dark place they don't want to beat, a 174 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: place they don't want to go. And I was like, hell, yeah, 175 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: that's how I think. That's that's that peanut punch mentality 176 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: right there. I'm trying to take you to a dark place. 177 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: Did you just name drop? No? I did not thank you. 178 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: I thank you, but it's okay, you can do that. 179 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't have a question, guys, y'all cracking them right now. 180 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: I just I appreciate. I appreciate like. 181 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: The old dror. 182 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: Older mentality. I love that. 183 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: What did you learn from that play? Too? 184 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: Like? 185 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: What did you do wrong? If you could go back? 186 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I was out of control and I kind of alluded 187 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: to it when I said my footwork was here, there, everywhere. 188 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just thought you could just go here so 189 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: I could just go hit him? 190 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: All right, he's already jest. 191 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: It was about five six five, I had like no leverage, 192 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, no leverage, out of control, no leverage in 193 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: my hands. Was all over the place, and they showed me, Rook, 194 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: you know when you come up against me, you better 195 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: have your act together. Yeah, you got to have every 196 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: facet of your game on point. And that's how it 197 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: is when you plan all the greats in the NFL. 198 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: After that episode, Terrence Mathis came up to me. You know, 199 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: Terrence Mathis mister Atlanta falcon. 200 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 201 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: He was one of the first NFL Riot receivers doing 202 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: this time to catch over one hundred passes. And in 203 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: today's game that that's that everybody's doing it. But back 204 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: then that was something to be seen. And so Terrence 205 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: came to me after I got knocked on my bud 206 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: and he said, listen to me, ro if you do 207 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: the little things right, the big things will fall. And listen, man, 208 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: whatever that means. I just got knocked on my butt here, bro, 209 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. I'm really not thinking about them, thinking about retaliation. 210 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: That's really what I was thinking about. Didn't know that 211 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: what he was telling me. If you won't to be 212 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: great and if you want to play on that type 213 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: of a level, you're gonna have to do the little 214 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: things right. So he knew I wasn't really listening to 215 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: him at that point, but he came back with me 216 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: with great patience. That's really all the great you know 217 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: a veterans do who are trying to leave the game 218 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: better than they found it. He said, Now listen to me, 219 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: young phelly, if you do the little things right, the 220 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: big things would automatically occur. Basically, well, he was telling me, 221 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: in order for you to truly succeed on a high level, 222 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: at a consistent level, those who really do it, they 223 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: do it because they do the small things that those 224 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: who don't succeed never do. Success is always been wrapped 225 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: up and doing the small, minute, streightiest, tedious details that 226 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: those who felt are either too lazy to do yeah 227 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: or make excuses why they can't do it. And so 228 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: he was telling me, don't be lazy, don't make excuses, 229 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: do the work, and if you do that, you'll be 230 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: on the other side of that for many, many years. 231 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: And that really transformed my life as an NFL tight end. 232 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: From that point on, I was on the Endcline ended 233 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: up playing thirteen years Like you guys, played a long 234 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: time in the NFL as well. 235 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so two thousand and left. I don't want to 236 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: go to two thousand and eleven. 237 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: Twenty eleven, can't wait. That was a lockout, yere Uh huh, 238 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 5: you were a rap. 239 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: It didn't affect me that much. And we were talking 240 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: about this earlier. Roome was affected by the lockout. And 241 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: we'll let you answer that question in a little bit, 242 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: thank you. My question is how was it being a 243 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: part of those negotiations, you know, a part of the 244 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: CBA and being in there, like negotiating with players, owner 245 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: like everyone all involved, right, Like, we'll explain that process 246 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: and what that was like. 247 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, I would say just based on our regulation, it 248 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: was very intense. Yeah, extremely intense because one side that 249 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: wanted one thing, meaning the owners, but we as players 250 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: needed need to get some some of the things that 251 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: we needed and done. And we weren't just working and 252 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: negotiating on behalf of us current players. We were negotiating 253 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: on behalf of the past players, the current players in 254 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: the future players. We were actually looking out for the 255 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: best interests of our guys. You know, anytime you negotiating 256 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the contract doesn't matter if it's an individual contract or 257 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: you're negotiating for the sake of the overall good of everybody, 258 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: the collective group. You want to make sure that you 259 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: do what's in the best interest, not of self, but 260 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: of others. And so it got pretty intense. But what 261 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: we told all the players listen, we know that you 262 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: guys want to be on the football field plan, we 263 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: know that you want to make your salaries. And there 264 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: were a lot of things that were thrown back and forth. 265 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Then when you guys not going to play, you guys 266 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: are not going to get paid, and so so oftentimes 267 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: when money is put in the picture, it could bring 268 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: some fear. Oh yeah, right, it can add pressure to guys, 269 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: especially the livelihoods in their pockets. But we told them, listen, 270 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: we can't cave in. Listen, this is bigger than us. 271 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: It's bigger than the current players. We have to do 272 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: what's best for the future and also our guys who 273 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: paid the way for us. And so you had, you know, 274 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of bickering here and there, a little 275 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: bit of arguments here and there, but by the same token, 276 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: we came together as one unit. Say, in regardless if 277 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: we see things differently or not, we have to do 278 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: what's best, and I'm extremely proud that we stuck to 279 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: our guns. We saw it through and pretty much that 280 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, maybe eighty five I would say probably 281 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: about ninety percent of the stuff that we negotiated, we 282 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: got it pretty much exactly the way that we wanted. Yeah, 283 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: we had to give a little bit and take a 284 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: little bit. That's part of negotiations as well. But the 285 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: thing that I would always say about that group of 286 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: guys is that we did at the end of the day, 287 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: we stuck together. We were not going to be denied, 288 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: we were not going to be pushed up. We said, hey, 289 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: we're going to do this thing. And I'm extremely pleased 290 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: and proud of the guys who stepped up and had 291 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: that type of leadership to do so. And there were 292 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: some owners, gonna be honest with there were some owners 293 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: who were on our side also. I'm not going to 294 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: name the names, but there was some owners who reached 295 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: out to us and said, you guys are doing it 296 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: the right way, and we'll appreciate you guys doing it 297 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: the right way, and that's anything that you guys need 298 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: from us. You know, we'll do our best too to 299 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: relate that information to make sure that we get it done. 300 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: Now were their owners and were owners and players in 301 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: one massive room or like one big room, and it 302 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: was just like back and forth. Was it just the 303 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: mediator kind of mediating between owners and players. 304 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was more so the mediator. 305 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: And there were times where where some select guys did meet, 306 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: you know, with Roger Goodell. They did meet with him 307 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: and try to, you know, to get things hashed out 308 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: because they really didn't know if we were really get 309 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: the job done and get the deal done in time 310 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: for the NFL season. But you know, guys felt some 311 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of way about it that I'll be honest with you. Yeah, 312 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: guys felt some kind of way. And you know how 313 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: it is with us. You know, if you feel a 314 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: little bit disrespected, sometimes you handle it. Sometimes you handle 315 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: it the wrong way. Sometimes you handle it the right way. 316 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: But I think for the most part, even though we 317 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: didn't agree with with the owners, we didn't agree with 318 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: their stands, we knew our value, We knew our worth. 319 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: And my mama always told me that there will always 320 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: be someone who doesn't see your value. There will always 321 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: be someone who doesn't see your worth. Never let that 322 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: someone be you, and I think that we had that mentality. 323 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: We know what we bring to the game of football 324 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: as far as the economics, we know what we bring 325 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: as well to the ownership, and we want to make 326 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: sure that we're properly compensated. We want to make sure 327 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: that we get the benefits that we all due, for 328 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the older guys, for the future guys, and also for 329 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: the president guys as well. 330 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: You mentioned a couple different things and about knowing your 331 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: value and being disappointed and this, that and the other. 332 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: I was one of those guys. 333 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: So when the lockout happened, and maybe you can give 334 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: me a little bit of advice to make me feel better. 335 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: Now, he's so salty right about this before you walked in, 336 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: and he was that dude. 337 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: I'll explain why. 338 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Two thousand and nine I went, we won a Super Bowl, 339 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: I went to my first Pro Bowl. 340 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: I was I was deemed to become a free agent. 341 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: The lockout happened. 342 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: I was not at six years I was at year four, 343 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: so still very young and supposed to get my money. 344 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: I could not get my money for two years because he. 345 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: Was the one. 346 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 347 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it was just everybody if you were outside 348 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: of this the NFL owners. We can agree or disagree 349 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: whether the colludeed not to do anything or not, but 350 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: smart on their part because they're business people. But the 351 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: fact of the matter is, I know you guys were 352 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: in there beating it down the table and all these 353 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: other things, but for players like me, that was just like, 354 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: what the crap is going on? I don't understand enough 355 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: at this point in my career. I don't understand enough 356 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: in life. Besides, I just want my money, absolutely, and 357 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: if I don't get this deal now, that also kicks 358 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: it down the road two more years when I do 359 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: get my deal, and it's not about getting a deal, 360 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: it's about getting that next deal after that, and they're 361 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: getting back at the negotiating table. Could you maybe help 362 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: soothe me in my pain on this whole breakdown of 363 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: what went down and how you guys understood that the 364 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: guys that were in the limbo or in the gray area, 365 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: this whole collective group of guys, and how you guys 366 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: probably felt bad for us, but we still had to 367 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: do what you had to do. 368 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 5: It's a greater good man. 369 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was sorry. 370 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 5: I think being that hit it right on the head. 371 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: We just we were looking at what is the greater 372 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: good for the overall league, for all the players who 373 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: had gone before us, to the current players, and also 374 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: for the young guys who are going to come in 375 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: the league that didn't know much about the business aspect 376 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: as far as the money, the economics, and that whole deal. 377 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: We wanted to make sure that we set in our 378 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: mindset the standard. And I think one of the biggest 379 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: things that I took away from it is that we 380 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: want to be as one as a unit. We want 381 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: to show the owners. We wanted to show the world, 382 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: regardless if they criticized us or not, that we were 383 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: going to stand together as a brotherhood, you know, functioning 384 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: together to get this job done. I feel like so 385 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: many times people may look at us as just athletes. 386 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 5: Athletes. 387 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: They're just an athlete, just an athlete. No, we're much 388 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: bigger than been an athlete. Oftentimes tells people tell people that, 389 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, me playing football, that's just simply what I do. 390 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: A man of God is who I am. My identity 391 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: is not wrapped up in just football. I'm much more 392 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: than that. I'm a businessman. I understand numbers, I understand 393 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: the economics, I understand government, I understand politics the whole 394 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: nine yards. I try to make sure that I'm properly 395 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: educated and that so I can go into a room 396 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: and have conversations on anything. I can go into a 397 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: room and fight for what's right because I understand exactly 398 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: the dynamics behind that complex situation. And so for me, 399 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, my whole thing was my teammates elected me, 400 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, as a rep to speak on their behalf. 401 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: And if I was just speaking on my behalf, that's 402 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: one thing. But when they elected me to speak on 403 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: their half of the entire league in the future of 404 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: the league, I had to do, in my opinion, what 405 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: was best for the collective group, which mean if I 406 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: didn't get what I wanted, that's fine as long as 407 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: it served the greater cause. And so that was our mentality. 408 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: And we knew that we was going to get some pushback, 409 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's always some pushback. But at the end 410 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: of the day, I thought the negotiation went extremely well 411 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of things that we had 412 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: set out to get. 413 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 4: I would agree with you on the overall. I just 414 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: need to get that off myself. 415 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: For somebody that was in the room, so absolutely absolutely, 416 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: because I was I was part of that group that 417 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: like it was a few of us that like, man, 418 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: we're supposed to get super broke off right now, and 419 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: we did not, And so. 420 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 5: It turned out really well for you. 421 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: You know, I would have got that fifty. You are 422 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: complaining a little bit, You're. 423 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: Right, But I will say one of the best things 424 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: that you guys did was look out for the past player. 425 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: Before that CBA, they had not been looked after like you. 426 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 4: Like that. 427 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: Twenty eleven CBA set everything else differently on the trajectory 428 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: of our former players and what we're able to now 429 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: get absolutely as we are past players and becoming that 430 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 3: that that pot. And so in twenty eleven we set 431 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: the standard of always looking back and pulling forward and 432 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: they will continue to do that going forward because of 433 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: the standards that you guys set in that groom. 434 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: So great job. 435 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: Appreciate that, man, appreciate that. 436 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a quick break. I want 437 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: to talk post football, your second act. So you get 438 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: out of you get out of football, and that transition 439 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: you go from the grid iron to the cast stars. 440 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 5: There it is there. 441 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: It is this man, this man from the grid iron 442 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: to the cast on. So how was that transition smooth? 443 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: So for it? 444 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: Because I know Roman I. We we talked about this 445 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 4: all the time. 446 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: And could you say that one more time? I just 447 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: like the sound of that. Go ahead one more time, 448 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: give it to me. 449 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: From the gridiron to the cast. So professional, Yeah, you 450 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: know football, it's something I did. It's not who I am, 451 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: you know it is, I'm a professional. But no, seriously, 452 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: like your your transition was like what I what I 453 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: assume and you can maybe you can help me understand 454 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: that it seemed like it was smooth. Why do you 455 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: think that transition was so smooth once you got out 456 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: of football? Because I know Roman I we've talked and 457 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: kind of what this podcast is about. It's just about 458 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: talking to you know, former players and how they get 459 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: into their second act and how they transition. Some do 460 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: it well, so struggle a little bit, some maybe so much. Yeah, 461 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: there's no blueprint. It's all kind of custom to the player. 462 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: So why was yours so smooth? 463 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: You think, yeah, it was actually a smooth transition. But 464 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: I learned that even before I became anrepreneur. Again my 465 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: rookie year, Terrence Mathis took me under his wing right, 466 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: and again I always shout out T Matt. And by 467 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: the way, T Matt is the head coach football coach 468 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: at Morehouse now, so I want everybody to support him. 469 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: But but T Matt, you know, he would always give 470 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: me nuggets, just nuggets. Man, you gotta leave the game. 471 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: Bet. 472 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Then you found it, man, nuggets, how to be a 473 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: professional on and off the field. And he told me, 474 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have to prepare for life after 475 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: football one day, ruck. I know you may not want 476 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: to hear that. You may think you're going to play forever, 477 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: but you got to prepare, you know, for life after football. 478 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: And you got to do the little things right. And 479 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: if you do the little things right, of course, the 480 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: big things will always follow you. So he gave me 481 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: a blueprint to say, hey, play the game of football, 482 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Enjoy the game of football. Take what you can take 483 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: from the game of football. But when it's over, then 484 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: what that's when life really hits. And if you don't 485 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: have a plan, you can plan to fail. What's the phrase? 486 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: If you fail to plan, you might as well plan 487 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: fail to fail. And he told me that in so 488 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: many different instances, so that once I actually finished playing football, well, 489 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: to be honest, with you, guys. I started to business 490 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: while I was still an active player. During the off seasons, 491 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: I would go and research, I mean research how to 492 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: start a food company. I would research all the intricate 493 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: details about the economics, about the marketing, about the sales, 494 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: about the manufacturing, about supply chain, about R and D. 495 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: What's R and D R and D research and development. 496 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: So for every product you got to research, you got 497 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: to develop it. It has to meet certain standard standards, 498 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: certain protocols. You can't just put any kind of product 499 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: on the market unless it's absolutely approved and it's up 500 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: to standard. It's commercialized, so to speak. So you may 501 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: go in with a recipe, but once you get commercialized, 502 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: that a recipe is called a formula, right, And so 503 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: I had to learn all of those intricate details about 504 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: the food and beverage industry, to the point that once 505 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: I finally retired, I had already started a business. My 506 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: business was already running smoothly. And if you guys don't mind, 507 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: I could tell you really what really was kind of 508 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: like that moment where it's kind of like trailblazes, where 509 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: my company just started to really catch on fire. And 510 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: this is not everybody's story. Every entrepreneur has their own story. 511 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: But shucks, I had only been in business for about 512 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: three months, guys, three months. I knew hardly anything about 513 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: the food industry itself for the stuff that I had researched, 514 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: and so I said, well, this is what I'm gonna do. 515 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to start off extremely small. I'm an error 516 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: on the side of caution. I'm gonna get me a 517 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: probably a couple mom and pop retailers to take my 518 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: products so that I can, you know, learn the business 519 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: and if I kind of fail, well I can fail 520 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: with from a small scale perspective. Well, within three months, 521 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: I took the plunge on reaching out to Walmart, reaching 522 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: out to Walmart stores and to see if they were, 523 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, scheduling me with me. And to my surprise, 524 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: when I reached out to him a week later, they 525 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: responded back wanting to schedule a meeting for me to 526 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: present my product. 527 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 528 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I had one of those moments. I'm like, because if 529 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: you understand the industry, that doesn't happen right to get 530 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet with a Walmart or a krow 531 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: Ger or Target stores, to meet with stores like that, 532 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: only being in business for three months, They're not really 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: going to give you the time of day because you 534 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: don't have the numbers, you don't have the sales, and 535 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: you probably don't have the experience. But anyway, this regional 536 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: merchandise will reached back out to me and said, let's 537 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: schedule this meeting. And so went in to meet with him. 538 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: And when the meeting was over, he kind of leaned in, 539 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: looked at me across the table and say, you know what, 540 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: that's something about you. I'm gonna give you a shot. 541 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: What he said, yeah, that's something about you. I'm gonna 542 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: give you a shot. Here I am like saying, well. 543 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: He then said there was something about my products, which 544 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: we got good products. Product was on fire. He didn't 545 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: say shucks, we like yourselves. And I had only did 546 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: business with two or three mom and pop retailers, nothing 547 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: on the scale of Walmart. He never said anything about sales, 548 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: but he said that's something about you. What I failed 549 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: to tell you, guys, was about a month before I 550 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: had that meeting, I traveled to multiple Walmart stores and 551 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: multiple states, and each Walmart merchandis is a lot different. 552 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: They have different products. I was up and down every 553 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: last hour in those Walmart stores, looking at my compared 554 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: to brands, looking at their nutritional panels, their ingredient decks, 555 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: they're packaging, they're pricing. I would buy those products, and 556 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: before I got to the car good I was tasting 557 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: the products, not using the spoon or fork or anything, 558 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: no meants, just tasting the product just to get an 559 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: analysis of what are they doing to get on the 560 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: shelves and what do I have to do to compete 561 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: against those particular brands. And I would walk around the 562 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: stores and walk around the stores and get all all 563 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: the information that I could, to the point where when 564 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I actually met with that merchandiser, he knew I couldn't 565 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: have got that information just searching the Well, yeah, he 566 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: knew I couldn't have gotten all of that information just 567 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: by looking on the internet. He knew I had to 568 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: actively travel from one state to the next, multiple stores 569 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: within that state, because I was telling them stuff that 570 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: was in one store that wasn't in the other store. 571 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I was telling them the workers, you know, the culture, 572 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. To the point he said, if 573 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: he could do that in this short period of time, 574 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: imagine what he can do in the long run, and 575 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: so I learned a couple of things from that particular me. 576 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: First thing, you don't get a second chance to make 577 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: a first impression. When you get your opportunity, you better 578 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: kick the door in. The Next thing is people do 579 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: business with people they like. It's not necessarily what you know, 580 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: it's who you know. To finish that story off, when 581 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: I left that meeting, he gave me a deal to 582 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: do busines with Walmart stores. Only being in for three months, 583 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: he reached out to two of his other buddies that 584 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: are merchandises as well, and because he liked me and 585 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: because I knew him, he reached out to him. And 586 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: then they gave me an opportunity to put my products 587 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: in their stores as well, simply because they knew him 588 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: and simply because I knew him. And the rest is history. 589 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: So you know, when you get your opportunities, you got 590 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're a likable person, especially in 591 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: this type of business, and you got to make sure 592 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: that you take full advantage of every opportunity that you have. 593 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Regie, man, you give me a whole bunch of 594 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: nuggets over your dat I'm just taking notes because like 595 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: this stuff, I'm telling my kids. It's just it's just impressive, right, 596 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: And everybody needs to hear that people do business with 597 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 3: people they like. Yeah, that's a that's a gold mine. 598 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: You don't get a second chance at a first impression. 599 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: Everybody needs to hear that you got a good brand. Yeah, 600 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: great brand. I want to know this, though, what made 601 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: you get into the food business. That's the one thing 602 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: you didn't tell it. 603 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: I'm greedy. 604 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm greedy, man, Okay, you got all these products this, 605 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: you have this game plan. 606 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 3: First of all, the fact that you went to all 607 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: these different walmarts. You're behind enemy lines and tasting everything, like, 608 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: that's amazing grind. And they don't even know that. That 609 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: guy was like, man, bump this. He knew that, he 610 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 3: knew the thing. He's like, you bet on the jockey, 611 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 3: not the whole. Absolutely, I'm not betting on the barbecue. 612 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: This off whatever, I ain't worried. I bet on this guy. 613 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: This guy is different. So what made you get into 614 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: food though? Like, what what what made you go there? Uh? 615 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I'm greedy, but but the truth 616 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: be told, it wasn't really something that I want to do. 617 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Fellas during the off seasons, I used to throw free 618 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: football camps for the kids in my hometown, Aberdeen, Mississippi. 619 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: And I used to reward the kids who exemplified great 620 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: academic excellence. 621 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 5: Right. 622 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: I want the kids to understand when you do good, 623 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: you can expect good. Hard work pays off. And so 624 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: I used to throw some of these free football camps. 625 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: I had my teammates come out and and and really 626 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: speak life into the kids. But I didn't want the 627 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: kids just to see athletes and think that okay, and 628 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: only the only way that I could be a success 629 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: is to be an athlete. 630 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: No. 631 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: I brought in professionals. I brought in business people. I 632 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: brought in blue collar workers who were successful, just to 633 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: see kids seeing people who model success and how that looked. 634 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: And the kids absolutely enjoyed the football camps. And after 635 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: the camps were over, and for that matter, after any event, 636 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: the Mississippi bro you're gonna have some good food. 637 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: Based, Yeah, you're gonna have some eats for you. 638 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: And so my family and my wife's family cooked for 639 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: all the volunteers. And I tell you, my teammates couldn't 640 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: stop raving about our family recipes. Some of them really 641 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: had never been to the sip to Mississippi, and so 642 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: they didn't really know how we get down, you know. 643 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: And so they were raving and raving to the point 644 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: where one of my teammates right talked my wife, Sheila, 645 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: and said, you know, you guys really need to do 646 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: something with these family recipes. And my wife came to 647 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: me as as they normally do, and she gave me 648 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: a little arm rub, and I said, oh boy, well 649 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: we're going with this. And she said, you know, babe, 650 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I really think we need to take Nicole's idea and 651 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: we need to run with it. We need to take 652 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: our family recipes and start a business. And Chucks, man, 653 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: that wasn't something I wanted to do. You know, I'll 654 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I wanted once I finally retired, 655 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to work either in the NFL front office. 656 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: I took a trip up to New York, met with 657 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Ray Anderson, I met with Ron Hill at the time, 658 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Troy Vincent. I talked with them guys about the next step. 659 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: I talked to coach Marvin Lewis. He said, man, rech 660 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: we need you in a position of leadership like that, 661 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily being a coach, but being in the front office, 662 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: and you have a lot to bring and give to 663 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. And so that's really where my head was at, honestly. 664 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: And so but my wife she had other plans. And 665 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: my wife, now we were high school sweethearts, so we 666 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: had been together for a minute. I remember I had 667 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: told her, you know, hey, you know when we get married, 668 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, we need to start our own business together. 669 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, we need to be entrepreneurs. You know, I 670 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: was just trying to be slick, you know, cool with it, smoothie, 671 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: get you in trouble every time. 672 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for getting nothing. 673 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 5: It ain't forgot nothing. 674 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: And so all these years, almost two decades later, she 675 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: remembered it, and one, you know, one of the girls 676 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: put that in their ear. I think you guys need 677 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: to take your family recipes to market. It was just 678 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: like a light bulb hit in. Regardless of whatever excuses 679 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: I made, she wasn't gonna let me. No excuses was 680 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: going to be good enough. And she said, no, I 681 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: think we need to do this, and lo and behold, 682 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: I told her, well, we're gonna do it now. You know, 683 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all in. And she's always been detailed, 684 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: she's always been gold you know, driven, and that's her 685 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: reputation and I'm the same way. And so that's when, 686 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: like when the off season hit, bro I'm talking about, 687 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm up to two and three o'clock at night, research research, research, research, 688 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: and traveling, traveling, asking people and food and beverage industry 689 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: about what do I need to do? How do I 690 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: need to start this company? What should I do to 691 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: be very competitive? Because you can have a great product, 692 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: but if you don't know how to market it and 693 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: you don't know the demographics to market it too, you're 694 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: not going to succeed. So I learned all that information 695 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: from those people, and they ended up helping us to 696 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: start this bill. They didn't end up helping us, but 697 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: they gave us some of the resources we need as 698 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: far as information and some experience to help us start 699 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: this business. And so what ended up happening this long 700 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: story short, no, I'm telling it long No you good, 701 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: long story. Short end up happening. We end up starting 702 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: the food business. We named it after our kids. My 703 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: daughter's name is Kyla, son's name is Cavin, combined the 704 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: two to come up with Kaivin, and we desire to 705 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: leave a lasting legacy a tangible legacy to our kids. 706 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: And if they want to work the business, great, If 707 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: they don't want to work the business, great, But we 708 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: want to give them a head stared art in life 709 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: so they can be their own bosses if they choose 710 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: to do so. And so that's our plan, and that's 711 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: really having foods got going, man. 712 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: So what's one of the best things that you all saw? Like, 713 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 4: what's what's the hottest item? They're all good, man, Okay, 714 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: let me really like this. 715 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 5: How many kids you got? 716 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: I have four? 717 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 5: Many kids? 718 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: You got four? You got four kids. I kind of 719 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: like in this food coming into like my babies. Okay, well, 720 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: you know when people ask like what is your favorite? 721 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: Your favorite kids? 722 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 4: We both got favorites. There's no way I have a favorite. 723 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: I have, you know, the youngest, you pops favorite? Everybody 724 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: know that. Oh no, a second man, that's my dog. 725 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: Okay, this is our trustee. This is my assistant right here. 726 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: This is my assistant, Thomas Warner. That's my intern, y'all. 727 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: That's the mild saucer. 728 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm a wimp man when it comes to to heat, 729 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: like everybody else, y'all got y'all got a recipe? 730 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: That's a family recipe. Black black people got the family 731 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: sauce of recipes. 732 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: But you know, you know it's it's a little bit 733 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: of this and a little bit of that, and then boilai, 734 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: you got yourself a masterpiece. So I grew up in 735 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: a family of cooks, not chefs, and so you know, 736 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: we have a little bit of this, a little bit 737 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: of that, a little bit of this, a little bit 738 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: of that, little taste of that's in boom. 739 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: You got yourself a mass speech. So man, we got. 740 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: Salsa, apple butters, salad dressings, barbecue, sauce, is seasoning, it's 741 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: the whole nine. 742 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: First of all, you guys have a huge influence in 743 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: the state of North Carolina where I live. So I'm 744 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: gonna make sure I go scoop up something that. 745 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 5: Is actually thought I was playing. Thought I was playing. 746 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 5: I thought. 747 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: It is good. It is sweet. 748 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 5: That's fact, it's good. 749 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: It is good. 750 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: What do y'all taste wrong? 751 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: What? 752 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 5: What do you taste? What did you taste when you 753 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: taste of that? 754 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of sweetness. But but it's like, uh, 755 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: it's called a little tang to it. I think that's 756 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: the apple in it. A little bit I'm not a 757 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 3: I don't eat fruit, but I will eat fruit flavored 758 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: or things with fruit flavor. 759 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 5: You ain't fruit. I don't at. 760 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 4: This about me. 761 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 5: All right? 762 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: This is good though, and uh I saw that. 763 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: As you guys are going down the list, I would 764 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: love to also see this sweet potato barbecue sauce. 765 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: Do we have any sweet potato barbecue sauce in the house. 766 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 3: I've never even heard of this, but for me and 767 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: my family being from Alabama, you give me some barbecue 768 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: sauce and you got sweet potatoes, and I ain't got 769 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: to separate them. 770 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: I can just have them all at one time. Boy, 771 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: I'm in I don't even know what that's It sounds crazy. 772 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen. The man made a request, and we 773 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: like to answer requests around here. Baby, he wanted sweet potato, 774 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: and we gave him sweet potatoes. You got to open 775 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: it up, man, Shake it up for him, Shake it 776 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: up for him, shake it up. 777 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: Take this up all the time. We do not. 778 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: So I'm in Chicago, How can I do? I just 779 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: gotta go to the website to order this? Or are 780 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: you in the Midwest? Are y'all in the Midwes? 781 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: Yes, we are so we service a number of retailers 782 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: across the country. Let's first start, let's say from an 783 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: e commerce platform. We service every Amazon Fresh fulfillment center nationwide. 784 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: So for those who don't understand what Amazon Fresh, it's 785 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: a platform under the Amazon brand, and it's just an 786 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: online grocery store. So if you order off our products 787 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: off of Amazon Fresh, they're delivered to you in grocery 788 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: bags within two hours. So it's not like your tradition 789 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: of Amazon where you got to order then a couple 790 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: of days you receive your ordering boxes. 791 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: I got you. 792 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: So we service every Amazon Fresh fulfillment center nationwide. You 793 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: can find our products on our website. We service select 794 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: target retailers, food line retailers, and one of our greatest 795 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: passions is we do a lot of food service stuff. 796 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: So we service restaurants, hotels like the Height, Regency, Hilton, colleges, hospitals, 797 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: the whole nine. 798 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 4: You know, your story has been amazing, uh and clearly 799 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 4: you're doing great things. 800 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, really, you gotta hit that sweep talking about 801 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: you got to hit it, I'm gonna hit that. 802 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 5: You need to take it to the head too, broke it. 803 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,959 Speaker 4: Ever, I have never just. 804 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: It's like, hold about it, like this is just normal 805 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: behavior it is. It seems okay, I'll say it, it seems fat. 806 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: But that's how you got to get the taste for it. 807 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 3: I want to know this, though, if you have one, 808 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: what has been your biggest challenge, like in this industry, 809 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 3: like getting into it, what you've figured out since you've 810 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: been in it. Tell me like one of the biggest 811 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: challenges you've had to get over. 812 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: That's an absolutely great question, and especially for for entrepreneurs 813 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: and looking to start a business up. 814 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 5: Quite often. 815 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: I've done a few panel sessions me and Brian Scott 816 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: with Atlanta Falcons sponsored by Truant Banking. We get an 817 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit in front of small business owners to 818 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: talk to him about the importance of being detail, being 819 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: intentional and having a great plan. And so I'm quite often, Oh, 820 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: he's about. 821 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 5: To take it. Go ahead, baby, for this to the head. 822 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 5: Tap him up, man, tap them up. 823 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it too, do it a love one. 824 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: I ain't never done this. So I got cheers, I 825 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: got honey apple cheers, I got steep and Tao the 826 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: barbecue sauce. 827 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 4: We take it to the head. 828 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 5: Cheers, there it is. M hm, talk to me. 829 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 4: It's good. I wish I had some wings. That is good. 830 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Now you get the true flavor profile without it being 831 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: masked with a meat or vegetables or anything. You gotta 832 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: take it to the head. 833 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 4: So you just got to take it to the head. 834 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: That's the best way to do. 835 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: So, like whenever I do whenever I do product samplings, 836 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: whenever I have meets in front of executive chefs, a 837 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: lot of times they don't want to taste the product 838 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: when incident can junction with a meat, let's say, for instance, 839 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: or chip. They want to see the actual true flavor 840 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: profile of the product. They want to taste every ingredient 841 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: if you will, and that particular product. So a lot 842 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: of times we don't match it up with some chips 843 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: or or meats until after they get the initial taste 844 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: profiles of the product. So yeah, that's how we do 845 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: it in the food industry. That's how we get down. 846 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 5: Man. 847 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know that either. 848 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: I just figured you did that. I just figured that 849 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: was just like alcohol or lime or something. You just 850 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 2: take it to the head. Not barbecue. 851 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 5: SA. 852 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: First time food is over here, man, So what did 853 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: you think about the sweet potato because a lot of 854 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: people listen, this is what I normally get, right when 855 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: you talk about a sweet potato barbecue stuff. We also 856 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: have a sweet potato vinaigrette salad dressing. But my usual 857 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: reaction is from people like sweet potatoes, come on, man, nah, 858 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: or it's man. I love sweet potatoes, right, And so 859 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: normally when somebody says I love. 860 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 5: It, they're eager to taste it. 861 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: And only when somebody says I don't like it, they're 862 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: so pessimistic about it to the point where they really 863 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: want to taste it just because they see they want 864 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: to see what it really tastes like. And so either way, normally, 865 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: when I present that product, I normally have people because 866 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: you really can't taste the sweet potatoes too. 867 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: That was what I was going to tell you, that 868 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: I really didn't taste the sweet I thought it tastes 869 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: like barbecue. 870 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 5: Tastes like barbecue sauce. 871 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: But you got all the healthy ingredients and all the 872 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: nutrients not ingredients, but the nutrients and vitems that come 873 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: from a sweet potato is actually in this sweet potato 874 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: barbecue sauce. That's why moms really like it. That's why 875 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: I really like it because I don't have any of 876 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: that junk as far as synthetic ingredients, non gmo, gluten free, 877 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: know how, fruit toast, corn syrup, and then when you 878 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: add that to the flavor profile and the nutritional ingredients, 879 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong. 880 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 5: Man. 881 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: The only way you can go wrong is if you 882 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: don't have any skills on the grill. Yes, and that's 883 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: for another conversation. The sweet potato, barbecue sauce and the ribbot. 884 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: So I'll do the ribbis on the side. I do 885 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 3: chicken wings really well too. I'll break out my green 886 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: egg for you. 887 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 5: You can't put the barbecue sauce on the ribes, so 888 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 5: you can't put it on. 889 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 4: I agree, I would. He just wants he just I 890 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 4: just don't. 891 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 5: I need to know. 892 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: How do you prepare to ribes? I know we're getting 893 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: off of course a little bit, but how do you 894 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: prepare the rivites? 895 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 5: Man? Talk to me. 896 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 4: I got I got some ingredients. 897 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 5: It's a secret. 898 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: I'd have been to a lot of restaurants. I didn't 899 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: had a lot of Michelin. And I'm gonna get wrong. 900 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give me his credit. I'm making my dog's credit. 901 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 2: He it is the greatest steak I've ever had in 902 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: my life. 903 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 5: Give me, just give me the highlight, like what is 904 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 5: makes it? 905 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: Seasoning, the slavery, like each each bite was like damn, 906 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: I taste that. And that morning I woke up, I 907 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 2: just I just ate. 908 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: This was. 909 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: This is a couple of months ago. This is this 910 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: is from the summertime. You can you can ask everybody 911 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: else on on that. He cooked force and it was. 912 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: He invited us to his cribby cut and he was like, yo, 913 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: you know just what I learned. 914 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 4: I learned how to do this that and whatever. 915 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 2: And he's taking his fingers and he's sprinkling the spices 916 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: and he's doing it. You know, got the herbs and 917 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 2: everything and he's sprinkling everything, doing this, doing his thing. 918 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: And he was likey you know, he cut one up 919 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: and he gave it to all of you know, the 920 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: cruise staff, the fellas. He gave us a piece of 921 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: was like okay, ye that is good, you know whatever. 922 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: And then it all came out and then we ate 923 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah. 924 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is nice. 925 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 3: He won't go the next day and just ate by cold, 926 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 3: just like that, just. 927 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 4: Off the bone, cave man style. It was it was. 928 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,959 Speaker 2: It was that good. I give my props. I normally 929 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: don't give his props. Hey, he did his thing on 930 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: that he read. Got you dog next time. 931 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. 932 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 2: My question for you is you are a successful gentleman, business, football, college, life, 933 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: You've done well Mount Rushmore. Who would be on your 934 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore of helping you get to where you've gotten 935 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 2: in life? And it could be anybody, any group of people. 936 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 2: Four you get four, I would say my dad, Okay, 937 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: my mother? 938 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 4: Why Mom's and pops? 939 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know my dad and mom they were extremely 940 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: instrumental in my life. And I would just say, honestly, 941 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: when you think about just a community, I grew up 942 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: in a tight knit community, let me say that. And 943 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: so you never become a success by your own merit 944 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: and by your own work, as a number of people 945 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: who help prune you, help developed you, who've disciplined you, 946 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: who've given you directions so as you can reach that 947 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: trajectory in life, that incline in life that they already 948 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: knew that you could reach. And so I had a 949 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: really tight knit community that poured in me how to 950 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: handle myself as a young man. You know, once they 951 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: pushed me off into the world, and my parents were 952 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: number one on that list. 953 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: You know. 954 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: My dad always taught me to pray like everything depends 955 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: on God, which it does, and to work like everything 956 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: depends on you. But faith without works is that. My 957 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: dad was always instrumental, and hard work pays off side, 958 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: even if you don't have the most talent like somebody else. 959 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: What they say about hard work, it's Trump's talent all day, right, 960 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: And so my dad was very instrumental, teaching me the 961 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: fastest of working my butt off, trusting in the Lord, 962 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: and if you do that, good things normally going to 963 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: come your way. My mother, on the other hand, you know, 964 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: my mother was tough too. Now, she was extremely tough. 965 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: She's the one who told me about values. Always know 966 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: your work, Always know your value because there's always going 967 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: to be someone who doesn't see it. Never let it 968 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: be you. But one of the greatest things she also 969 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: told me is to have some standards, and the standards 970 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: are never to be shifted. She told me that when 971 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: I was a kid. So she said, it doesn't matter 972 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: if you go off to the NFL, it doesn't matter 973 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: if you're an entrepreneur. It doesn't matter how much money 974 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: you make. You need to present yourself from how you dress, 975 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: from how you talk, from how you act, from how 976 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: you do business, from how you do your job. You 977 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: need to handle yourself with some standards at all times. 978 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: And she would finish with this, the standards are not 979 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: to be shifted, Reggie. Even if our society shift their standards, 980 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: yours should never shift because you're called to be a 981 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: catalys a catalyst in this world and your calls to 982 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: make a difference and the only way you're going to 983 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: do that is if you're different. And so they keep 984 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: me to that standard even to this day, check Man. 985 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: I oftentimes would go take my mama out to go, 986 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, get something to eat, and before I enter 987 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: her house, she's looking me up and down to make 988 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: sure I'm dressed right. I mean she's looking at age 989 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: you're wearing that you need to go back home and change. 990 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: She's that type of mother. Everything has to be bam 991 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: bam bam. And she believed that when you present yourself 992 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: the right way, when you carry yourself the right way, 993 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: you influence others to do the same. You know, we 994 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: all love to dunstandard saying right there, that's true, that 995 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: is true. In every fast So I think that you know, 996 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: just like that Walmart merchandise, and when you present good, 997 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: some good's gonna happen. When you sacrifice good, something good's 998 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna happen. When you do the small things right, something 999 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: good's gonna happen. When you extremely detail, good things happen. 1000 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: But the thing is, are you willing to do that? 1001 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: Just like you guys. I'm extremely proud of you guys. 1002 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: A few months back, by a year or so ago, 1003 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: I went up flipped to New York and did a 1004 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: set with Nate Burlison and Gail King on CBS Deals 1005 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: so nice, and had an opportunity to talk with Nate, 1006 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, before and then after that set. It was funny, 1007 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: man to see how Nate was on set about ten 1008 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes before you. Nobody else was. Yeah, we 1009 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: know the phrase in the NFL right to be on 1010 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: time is to be late, but to be but to 1011 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 1: be early, it's to be on time. Still carry that mantra, 1012 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: still carried that lifestyle. He was there early, he was 1013 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: there afterwards, you know, talking to him, and I'll just 1014 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: tell him how proud I am that he didn't let 1015 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: anybody put a box around him. 1016 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 5: Right. 1017 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: Quite often people tend to put boxes around us, thinking 1018 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: that we're only athletes. That's all that, that's all we 1019 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: can do. But man, we got so many gifts and talents. 1020 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: But we got to nurture them things. Man, we got 1021 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: to develop those things, and we got to lean on 1022 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: each other to sharpen those gifts and talents and take 1023 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: them and use them, use those talents, man, to be 1024 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: whatever the Good Lord has called us to be. 1025 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's two you give me, give me two 1026 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: more on your mount Rushmore. You got mom and dad. 1027 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 5: Oh, and I got to put my wife on that too, man. 1028 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 5: Real talk. 1029 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: When I first started dating my wife, I didn't know 1030 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: we were dating because I wouldn't dating material. To be 1031 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: quite honest with you, I had never kept a girlfriend 1032 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: for no more than two weeks. Yeah, at the time, 1033 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: I was just not that type of guy that wants 1034 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: to settled down with one woman and one girl, especially 1035 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 1: in high school. 1036 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 5: And you know how it is. 1037 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so when I was when I was in 1038 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: high school, my wife and I we were like best 1039 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: of friends. I mean, she was like one of the fellas, 1040 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: and she can hang with the fellas. She was very articulate, 1041 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: all ab student, and even if the fellas would climb around, 1042 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: she could climb right around with us, so she could 1043 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: hold her own. 1044 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1045 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't used to that coming from girls, you know, 1046 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: I was used to that. And so we were cool 1047 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: for for quite some time, for maybe a year or so, 1048 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: and then you know, the question came up, said, well, 1049 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 1: why don't we, you know, take this to the next level. 1050 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: And of course I didn't want to do it because 1051 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: I knew if I did it, I was probably gonna 1052 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: mess it up like I always do. But I said 1053 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: to myself, shucks, well, if I don't data, it's going 1054 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: to get awkward. If I do DATA and I messed 1055 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: things up, it's still going to be awkward. So I 1056 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: just took my chance and started dating. And that's the 1057 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: best thing I could have ever done. A great wife. 1058 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: She always encouraged me, always supports men, always there for me. 1059 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't asked for a better partner. And the thing 1060 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: I like about is that we're best friends. We're friends 1061 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: before we started dating, we're friends before we are a 1062 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: married couple, and everything that we do, we do it 1063 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: as friends. And that's why when she came to me 1064 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: about this food business. She knew well listening, I know 1065 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: your man or your were you always when you say 1066 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna do something, you always stick to it and 1067 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: do it. 1068 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 5: And so she. 1069 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: Knew by me telling that some years ago when we 1070 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: were friends, when we were dating, she knew that I 1071 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,479 Speaker 1: would stick to it. So's she's a type of woman 1072 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna always keep me accountable. She's a type of 1073 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: woman regardless if I'm six foot five and she's five 1074 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: foot she's still gonna stand her ground and say, hey, no, 1075 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: if you say you're gonna do it, do it all right. 1076 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: You need to make sure that you're different. No, I 1077 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says. You need to fight for 1078 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: your dreams, Regie. And so whenever you have that type 1079 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: of support, it makes it makes it easy to come home, 1080 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: It makes. 1081 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 5: It easy to to. 1082 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: Be able to confide and my wife. And so she's 1083 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: definitely definitely instrumental in my life. And I think the 1084 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: fourth one will be the fourth one in my life. 1085 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: I have a number of coaches. Man, I would hate 1086 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: to leave anybody out. Man, Can I just stay with three? 1087 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 5: Can I do three? I gotta do one. 1088 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 4: That's a standard. That's the standard one more it's a 1089 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 4: good call. 1090 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: That's a good call, I would say. The other person 1091 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: would be my grandmother, my grandmother. I grew up next 1092 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: door to her, and so grandmother used to always take 1093 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: me fishing. She used to always spoil me. Even times 1094 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: when my dad wanted to whip me. All I had 1095 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: to do is run next door to my grandmother and 1096 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: hide behind her, and she would tell my dad leave 1097 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: me alone, leave me alone. And that was old school 1098 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: because those old school grandmother they didn't play, especially about 1099 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: their grandkids. And so she would always love on me. 1100 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: I would always go to church with us well, she 1101 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: would always cook for me, and she was that quiet, 1102 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: sweet spirit that I needed in my life life, especially 1103 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: when I was a rowdy young teenager. I could always 1104 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,479 Speaker 1: lean on my grandmother and laid my head in her lap, 1105 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: and she was always there for me. So my grandmother 1106 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: caught you passed some years ago, but she was the 1107 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: matriarch of our family and everything. She was somewhat the 1108 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: center of our family. 1109 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and she. 1110 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: Left a great legacy behind. And before I passed, she 1111 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to know that I did, you know, 1112 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: reached the goal of playing in the NFL and trying 1113 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: to be productive. So those for my dad, mom, my wife, 1114 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: and of course my granny. 1115 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: Oh great, man, that's a great one. Well, Reggie Man, 1116 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 3: we're gonna get you up out of here. Man, dude, 1117 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate you blessing us with your time of the food. 1118 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm taking the sweet potato barbers. We got 1119 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,240 Speaker 3: some brain taking everything. 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