1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of iHeart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: Annie Reese and I'm Lauren voc obaum, and today we're 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: talking about chia and chia seeds, yes, which a lot 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: of you have suggested. Um, and I couple years ago 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: I went on this huge like chia seeds phase. I 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: was putting them in everything. I was putting them in 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: baked good and smoothies, UM, yogurt. I would use them 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: as a substitute for eggs. But it kind of fizzled out. However, Um, 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: as some of you listeners know, as Laurence certainly knows, 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: throughout this pandemic, I have acquired more snacks than I 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: normally have. Yeah, like people giving me things or just 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, just in case. Um. And it got to 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: the point where it was a health hazard when I 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: would open my pantry and like things would fall out, 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: and I kept putting it off, like I just kept thinking, 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a miserable experience. I bet something's 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: broken in the back and there's cockroaches, Like I like concern, 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: share share, just anxiety about it. Yeah. Yeah, But a 19 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: couple of weekends ago, I had somebody over for the 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: first time in a year like that isn't like super 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: close to me, so I felt like I did have 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: to clean up. Um, and I was cleaning out. I 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: uncovered so many things, over a hundred couzies for sure. 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Uh definitely something was broken and it was a tail 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: password I got injured. Oh I found a packet of cheas. Oh. Yes, 26 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I also found some sunflower seeds and pumpkin seeds and 27 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: chima okay I had Yeah, well cool, mm hmm. Yeah, 28 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: that's my recent chia experience. That is your your arrands 29 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: for a very seedy future. That sounds terrible. I I 30 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: have never really gotten in on the chia seed trend. 31 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever used them at home. Um, 32 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, not for any particular reason. 33 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I think I just kind of saw the trend happening 34 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: because it was quite intense for a few years there, 35 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: and kind of went like me, uh that that just 36 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: just total noncommittal, like I I don't care about this, 37 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: and people care so much about it that I care 38 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: less sort of sort of thing, which isn't a very 39 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: useful human emotion, but none. Nonetheless, it was one that 40 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I was experiencing, but but doing this research I'm I'm inspired. 41 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Maybe go out and find some girls home, get some 42 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: little sprouts going perhaps, Oh yeah, I've got some good ones. Okay, 43 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: as we shall talk about later in the episode. But 44 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I suppose this brings us to our question. Yes, chia, 45 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: what is it? Well? Chia is an herbaceous plant that 46 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: is soft stemmed and smallish in the Salvia genus within 47 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the mint family. A couple different species are referred to 48 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: as chia botanical names Salvia Hispanica and Salvia colombarre a. Yes, 49 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with that. They are related to stuff 50 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: like sage and time, but are less aromatic and more 51 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: commonly used as a small green like like sprouts. Like 52 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: other sprouts are used or for their seeds. The plants 53 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: can grow to about a meter tall around three feet 54 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: and produce these small white and purple or or white 55 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: and blue flowers. It's a fall to winter flowering plant, 56 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: but grows in the tropics and or subtropics places with 57 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: very mild winters like no frost. The flowers will dry 58 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: out on the plants and then the seeds grow to 59 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: maturity in bunches of four. In those papery little flower 60 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: shells um and those seeds are very small and flat, 61 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: like like sesame seeds are smaller but a little bit 62 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: less pointy. They're technically the whole fruit of the chia 63 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: plant um. Unlike fleshy fruits like say, apples, the outer 64 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: layers of the chia fruit are thin and dry and 65 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: inseparable from the single inner seed of the fruit. So yeah, 66 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: that whole fruit is referred to as a seed. And 67 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: those seeds come in up neutral shades like white to brown, 68 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: to black to spotted, and you can use them as 69 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: a topping or addition to baked goods or salads, raw 70 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: or toasted. Their flavor is mild and a tiny bit nutty. 71 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: The seeds also produce a lot of goo when you 72 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: get them wet, like a like a tiny edible gremlin 73 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: or mob way. I guess, yeah, I got to be accurate, Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, 74 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: although gremlins also produce a lot of good when you 75 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: get them wet. But anyway, this this goo, in the 76 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: case of chia seeds, not magua um is well, actually 77 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: probably in both, is called mucilage um, which is a 78 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: stuff that gloms onto water molecules and then expands in 79 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: a in a matrix holding that water. Yeah, and this's 80 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: like slightly sticky matrix of of molecules UM. In nature, 81 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: this is useful because it will help like a weed 82 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: dry seed, hang onto the water that it needs to 83 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: grow UM and or help it stick to say the 84 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: of an animal that might help disperse it, and or 85 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: will help it stick to the soil that it lands in. 86 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: All of this helped chia thrive in the sort of 87 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: arid hot areas that it evolved in, namely mountainous regions 88 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: of what's now Mexico and Guatemala. The mucilage is also 89 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: why chia is a great seedling for small indoor decorative 90 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: planters like chia pets, because you just mix like one 91 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: part seeds to three parts of water, and within a 92 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: very short period of time the mixture will gel up 93 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: into this like spreadable goo yeah, that you can easily 94 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: plant onto a terra cotta pot or you know, anything 95 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: else with a permeable surface up to it, including just 96 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: like a paper towel. They do germinate quickly and will 97 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: grow sprouts within a few days to a couple of weeks, 98 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: so they're they're an easy d I y science and 99 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: or decorative project. UM and Yes, you can harvest your 100 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: chia pets for for your sandwiches or smoothies. We our 101 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: Food Show, despite evidence. I've never thought of it as fur, 102 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: but I guess yeah, that's technically what it's acting as. 103 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: Scenario yeah uh huh um. Back to the muselage. Culinarily, 104 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: the muselage is is useful because it forms a sort 105 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: of a gelled texture like like gelatin or pudding or 106 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: or egg. Um. So you can use chia seeds to 107 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: thicken or add interesting texture to any number of foods. Um. 108 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: It's both gelled and it has that little crunchy crunchy 109 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: bit from the seed. Um. Tia is used thus in 110 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: a in drinks like a like lemonade or other juices, 111 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: in both sweet and savory porridges and puddings, as a 112 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: vegan substitute for eggs and recipes, or um to replace 113 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: some of the oil or egg content in baked goods. Um. 114 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: The seeds are sold whole or sessed into flowers, oils, 115 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: and gels. Yeah. Um. If anyone has not used Jesus seeds, 116 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I actually think it's pretty cool. Like he gets the 117 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: seeds in there and put some water in theno. It's 118 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: like a science experiment something I have a horror movie. 119 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: You now, they would be a good use for some 120 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: special effects type things. Sure? Yeah? Oh man, where I 121 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: miss our video series? Where's so gross? Right? Where is Tyler? 122 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: And are like time laps? Extreme close up camera? Rig? 123 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: I want it? What? What? God? Are the days? Unfortunately? 124 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Where we just spent hours watching honey drip with that 125 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: camera focused on it, And then people would come in like, 126 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Oh, we're just filming this honey drip? 127 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: All right, look at how cool it is? Okay, bestizing 128 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: it was? Anyway, maybe one day, maybe one day, I 129 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: got this package of cheese seeds. You can put them 130 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: to use. But all right, in the meantime, what about 131 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: the nutrition she had? Products are pretty good for you. 132 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: The greens have a good punch of fiber and vitamins. 133 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: The seeds are more calorie dns. They're oily, with good 134 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: fats um and with a with a good punch of 135 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: protein and fiber plus a smattering of minerals. Cheese seeds 136 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: are apparently the best known source of Omega three, fatty 137 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: acids in plants that human people eat, like even better 138 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: than flax seed um. The seeds are up to a 139 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: third oil by weight and um. They also contain more 140 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: protein than corn or wheat, or rice or cunua. They 141 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: also contain a number of antioxidant compounds that are being 142 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: investigated for helping reduce the risk of a number of 143 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: diseases and conditions heart disease and cancer for example. And 144 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: that mucilage can help soothe the digestive tract um, slow 145 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: your digestion rate, make you feel more full, and help 146 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: your body regulate blood sugar levels. So cool stuff. However, 147 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: since yes, the seeds contain this stuff that like absorbs 148 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of water if you eat them, make 149 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: sure to hydrate, I mean, always make sure to hydrate. Furthermore, 150 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: in large amounts gia seeds can have a blood thinning effect. 151 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: There's a compound in there that can do that. And 152 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: they contain another compound um that that will reduce mineral 153 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: absorption from your digestive system into your body. UM. So 154 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of tablespoons fine like a pound. 155 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, I you know. As as always with 156 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: everything um uh, our bodies are complicated. More research is 157 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: necessary before ingesting a medicinal dose of anything. Consult with 158 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: a health professional who is not us, Yes, definitely not us. Oh, 159 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: and that that muselage is also furthermore, furthermore being investigated 160 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: UM for for other uses like in manufacturing medicine capsules 161 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: and for work in nanotechnology, because the fibers that make 162 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: up that muselage are uber tiny. They're like eighteen to 163 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: forty five nanometers in length, and and the and the 164 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: matrices that they that they build can be quite strong. UM. 165 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, this could be useful and stuff like control 166 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: release drugs. That's so cool. Nanotechnology. You never know, you 167 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: never know where the research is going to take you. 168 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: You really don't. She affects a nanotech You're all over 169 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: the place. We do have some numbers for you, we do. UM. 170 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: A single seed can absorb twelve times it's weight in water. 171 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Certainly more than I can absorb. I would 172 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: have to calculate. UM. Mexico is the world's largest chia producer. 173 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: UM Apparently sprouted chia displays are part of springtime celebrations 174 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: in parts of Mexico and throughout Central America. She has 175 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: also cultivated in Bolivia, Columbia, Guatemala, Peru, Argentina, and Australia. 176 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: The biggest importers are Japan, the United States, and Europe 177 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: UM and recently though the the US and a few 178 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: countries in the Mediterranean have also started growing it commercially. UM. 179 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: The global market is predicted to reach nine point three 180 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: billion dollars in value by the end of yeah yeah um. 181 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: There are a few a dozen known varieties of chia, 182 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: both wild and domestic, and according to the guy that 183 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: made them popular, about five of hundred thousand chia pets 184 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: are sold the year during the holiday season and yes, 185 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: more on that later sold during the holidays, and that's 186 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: pretty much the only time they market the product, which 187 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: is impressive because daying that commercial sticks with you. Um. 188 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: Their website claims that as of fifteen million chia pets 189 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: have been sold, which is a lot yeah for decorative 190 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: terra cotta. I'm like, okay, yeah, no, you did good. 191 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: You made it um And yeah, we're going to cover 192 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: some of that in the history section. We will and 193 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: we will get into that, but first we're going to 194 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: get into a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 195 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So. 196 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Chia seeds originated in the Essential and South America's um 197 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: early Mesoamerican people's cultivated chia seeds, prizing them for their 198 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: perceived nutritional and medicinal benefit. I couldn't find an exact date, 199 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: or even like a general eyes date, but I'm guessing old, old, 200 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: long time ago. Yes, yes, um. They were a significant 201 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: product for the Aztec empire um, perhaps even a primary 202 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: food source and one of the main four components of 203 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: their diets. One of the very first known written references 204 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: of chia seed supports this fact, a three thousand BC 205 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: description of the importance of chia seeds for the Aztecs. 206 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, they were used in all kinds of things, um, 207 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: ground up into flour, mixed with water to make a drink. 208 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: They were used in medicines, bird feed, um, pressed for oils, 209 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: body paint and as we'd protect paintings and religious statues. Uh. Yeah. 210 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: The the word chia in fact stems from a Nahlatl 211 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: word for oily, and the shelf life of the seeds 212 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: and the flowers one of the things that made it 213 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: popular in these times. In pre Columbian societies, it might 214 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: have been the second most important crop behind beans. It 215 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: was up there, up there. The records are lacking researchers 216 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: believe chia seeds were staple for the Mayan's. Historians speculate 217 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: it was a cash crops in Central Mexico from fifteen 218 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: hundred to nine hundred b C, and that it was 219 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: being cultivated in the Central Valley of Mexico from two thousand, 220 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: six hundred to two thousand BC. Yeah, I know that 221 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: always mixes me up that reverse. Yeah, warriors in these 222 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: civilizations may have thought that chia seeds provided stamina, which 223 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: they might not have been far off on that um 224 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Chess seed consumption dropped precipitously in colonial Mexico, or at 225 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: least that's what the records seemed to indicate. It was 226 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: primarily consumed in beverage form in this region and something 227 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: called augua to chia or chia water. However, in fifteen 228 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: seventy nine, Friar Bernardino de Sahagun wrote about seeing bars 229 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: of syrup, almonds, and cheese seeds at Mexican markets. He 230 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: also wrote about the medicinal properties of chia seeds for 231 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: multiple diseases, sometimes in combination with other herbs. Yeah. Spanish 232 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: courtesies from the time talk about chia being used as 233 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: as widely as maize was. In his seventeen eighty work 234 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Ancient History of Mexico, priest Francisco Javier Clavajero described the 235 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Mexican military's use of cheese seeds in their exercises the 236 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: work wave of Farma Copia. The Mechico listed several pharmaceutical 237 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: uses of the chia seed, even as something that could 238 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,359 Speaker 1: be introduced to the eye to get rid of extraneous 239 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: bodies and talk about some horror movie fodder. Oh yeah, yeah, 240 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I don't know how I feel. Yes, 241 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: I feel, will I also feel conflicted? Um? For centuries, 242 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: the chiesa seeds seemed to have all but disappeared from 243 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: written records and didn't really resurface until the mid century. Yeah, 244 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: it's certainly I think experienced date dip in popularity during 245 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Spanish colonization. Yes, um, But okay, jumping away ahead as promised, 246 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: let's talk about chia pets. Okay, So for those of 247 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: you don't know, I'm imagining most of you do. But 248 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: this is yeah, clay pot the space for soil, and 249 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: it comes with chia gel that would grow chia hair 250 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: or fur. As you said, UM advertised with the catchy 251 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: jingle Chia popular during the eighties and nineties. According to 252 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: some sources, chia pets are partially responsible for introducing and 253 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: popularizing chia seeds in the United States after marketer Joe 254 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: pet dutt r P. Dutt Uh founded chia pet for 255 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: sale by a man named Walter Houston in the nineteen 256 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: seventies at a house wears fair Um. He was told 257 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: when he was visiting this that the items always sold out, 258 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: and intrigued, he did some research came to the conclusion 259 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: this could be a best seller with the right marketing campaign, 260 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: and so he purchased the company manufacturing these chia pets. 261 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: Houston had been importing them from Mexico, but the middleman 262 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: in between the factor in Houston. It sounds like cheating 263 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: everyone out of a bunch of money, because yeah, Joe 264 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: was like, what these should be making money? How is 265 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: this Houston guy not not rolling in the chia pet 266 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Doe but did some digging and was like, Ah, this 267 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: is why UM and craft the successful marketing campaign he did. Uh. 268 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: Legend goes that someone pretended to or actually did, stuttered 269 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: the name in an alcohol fueled brainstorming session, and that's 270 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: how they landed on the jingle, which makes sense in 271 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: some ways. Uh. It was so successful that this product 272 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: became iconic and was selected to be a piece of 273 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: the New York Times time capsule to be opened in 274 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: the year three thousand, which I don't consider myself a cynic, 275 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: but I'm like, wow, you think of me around three Okay, okay, 276 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: all right, Yeah. It contains a tin of spam, a 277 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Betty Crocker cookbook, and a purple heart metal and see 278 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: how cultural important food is. It's like three other four things. Yeah. Um. 279 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Pet Dot donated his company's papers, tv ad tapes, and 280 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: some chia pets to the National Museum of American History. 281 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: I never had one, I know. Isn't that so great? 282 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: We can't letch she is chia pet get forgotten. We 283 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: must remember always. Um. I never had one, but my friend, 284 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: one of my best friends growing up, did and I 285 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: was so jealous. I was so jealous. I think it 286 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: was Scooby Doo, which double jealous. Then oh yeah, yes. Um. 287 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: Many pop culture characters have been turned into cheapet's, but 288 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: the first chia pet's old in nineteen seventy seven, was 289 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: che a guy which is kind of a cartoony, creepy 290 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: looking man head. It unsettled me. The popular ram shape 291 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are familiar with UM was 292 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: released in nine. Over the years, all kinds of shapes 293 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: have been sold though UM Today they have arranged including 294 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: animals like like llamas, hedgehogs, puppies and kittens. Uh. Then 295 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: real world personalities like Bob Ross, Richard Simmons, Weird Al Yankovic, 296 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: David Hasselhoff. They have a whole emoji line going, including 297 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: the poop emoji, which is a little more confusing to 298 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: me because like emojis have very discreet edges. It's part 299 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: of their like definition anyway. Um uh and then uh, 300 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: fictional characters like Rick and Morty, penny Wise, the clown 301 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: if that's a thing that you want in your house, 302 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: No Gizmo from the Gremlins, Ah, all four Golden Girls 303 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: and yes, grow gou the child from the Mandalorian Um 304 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: and Chewy and Yota. Well, I I kind of want 305 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: to get one, but I gotta, I gotta say, I gotta, 306 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I've got to look up this weird al one. UM. 307 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, you know, it's just his head and 308 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: he's kind of got he's kind of got a little 309 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: fluff of hair anyway, So it really makes sense with 310 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: the with the chia it just makes sense. It's natural. 311 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Maybe one day you and I will be gia pets nightmare. 312 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Also a great honor, it would, it would be a 313 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: great honor. It is like pretty much the opposite of 314 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: either of our hairstyles. Um that is. But you know, 315 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I again, anything for chia, I guess um. The company 316 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Joseph Enterprises even claims that they're so called chia pole 317 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: predicts American presidential winners um for each election in recent history. 318 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: They released one for the Democrat and one for the 319 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: Republican candidates um for presidents, and they tracked the sales 320 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: of them. According to them, the sales of their Obama 321 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: and ram Need chia pets roughly amounted to the electoral 322 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: College win outcome of that election, and that the former 323 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: president's chia pett outsold Hillary Clinton's by about wow. She 324 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: pet poles che pet polling Okay. Researcher Wing Coats helped 325 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: expose North America to chia seeds in the nineteen eighties 326 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: as well, when he was looking into them as an 327 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: alternate crop for northern Argentine farmers. He started really researching 328 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: them and their health benefits in and became a big 329 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: proponent for them. One of the ways that chia seeds 330 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: gained super food status was Christopher McDougal's two thousand nine 331 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: book Born to Run, a Hidden Tribe, super Athletes and 332 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen, featuring a 333 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: section detailing how az Tech marathon runners snack on chia seeds. 334 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: From this, health marketers started really advertising the health benefits 335 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: of chia seeds, and companies in the health food space 336 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: are looking to get into that space began putting cheese 337 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: seeds and all kinds of items. Like you said, laurd, 338 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: they were everywhere from a minute, yeah yeah, yeah, by 339 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: um by certainly they were a legitimate food fad um. 340 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: At the time, the global market for the seeds was 341 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: still small. It was only worth some um some seventy 342 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Compare that back to what did 343 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: what did I say it was gonna be by like 344 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: nine nine point three billion? Yeah? Uh. In the decade 345 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: that followed that book's release, Google searches for chia seeds 346 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: rose eight Wow. Yeah, I kind of yeah, I kind 347 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: of remember that whole that whole thing of UM. I 348 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: say this as a runner, when all of a sudden 349 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: all these running books were coming out. Yeah, like everyone 350 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out the way to run is 351 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: without shoes or the way to run like all these 352 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: different things being bombarded with these men. Yeah. Yeah, it 353 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: was such a what a what a what an odd time. 354 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: I was working actually and um in marketing for a 355 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: company whose main client was New Balance, and so uh, 356 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: I was wrapped up in the bleeding edge of all 357 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: of this marketing about how to how to run and 358 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: when you know, the research about the midfoot strike and 359 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: pro nation and oh my goodness, just just all of 360 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: these all and the whole barefoot running trend and the 361 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: whole minimal shoe trend. I own a pair of minimal 362 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: shoes because New Balance gave them to me. I will 363 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: say that they're great for UM. I don't like running 364 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: in them. I don't like running though, but I do 365 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: love wearing them to rock Jim's. Oh I bet because 366 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: they're real grippy. Yeah yeah yeah. Topic for a different 367 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: episode or it's different podcast, I guess I edible products. 368 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but that's about where this episode she sees 369 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: has brought us we like the runners have covered much 370 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: ground we have we have um, we do have some 371 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: listener mail for you. We do, but first we have 372 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: one more quipic for words from We're sponsor and we're back. 373 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you, and we're back with mail. 374 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: Yes you see what I did there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 375 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I caught on like halfway through, solidly of the way in. Hey, 376 00:26:52,880 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: better than nothing halfway there? Hey, yeah, that's your wrote. 377 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: I was so excited to see that you made a 378 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Fallout Foods episode. I love that game and I played 379 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: New Vegas all the time in college. An interesting food 380 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: that came to mind was Ruby's casserole. You can learn 381 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: to craft it when you bring rad Scorpion poison Glance 382 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: to an NPC in New Vegas. Then you get the 383 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: following delightful quote from Ruby. It's perfectly safe as long 384 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: as you don't have source in your mouth for the 385 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: venom to find your blood, because that'll kill you. Did 386 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: it made me think? Can you eat venom in real life? 387 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Would you be able to consume real scorpion venom as 388 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: long as you didn't have cuts in your mouth? What 389 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: would it tastes like maybe this is a topic for 390 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: another episode. Yeah, that makes me want to google a 391 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: number of things right now. Yeah, I'm it's some of 392 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: those topics that I'm a little nervous to undertake. But 393 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: I think I am intrigued as well. Nervous and intrigued 394 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: just where I find myself and silent place. I think 395 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: that happens fairly often on this show. Oh absolutely, Oh goodness, 396 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: Gin wrote, I just wanted to write it and tell 397 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: you about how my family uses our fondue set at 398 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: least once a year. My parents have had a fondue 399 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: set for as long as I can remember, but as 400 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: he said in the episode, it's not something you bust 401 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: out on the regular for weeknight dinners. I can barely 402 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: remember it being used until a few years ago when 403 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: my dad hit on the idea of cheese board fond 404 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: My family goes hard on the cheese over Christmas, with 405 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of options being brought to the board for 406 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: the day itself and plenty to be consumed in the 407 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: days following. Of course, leftovers aren't exactly in short supply 408 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: after Christmas, so there will always be a few lumpy 409 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: bits of cheese of varying types and sizes, slowly sweating 410 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: their way into distastefulness as the days go on. My 411 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: dad had the idea of scraping all the leftover cheese, 412 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: plus some extra e mental and gray air um and 413 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: a healthy amount of kursh into the fond pot and 414 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: using it up that way. It was such a resounding 415 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: success the first time we tried it, we've done it 416 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: every Christmas since. I highly recommend it as a way 417 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: to use up bits of leftover cheese, especially once you've 418 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: run out of nice crackers and biscuits to go with it. 419 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: I love your show, especially to listen to as I cook, 420 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: and I'm now so familiar with it that I like 421 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: to speak your introductions and farewells along with you as 422 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: you say them. So I'd like to take this opportunity 423 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: to say that I hope lots of good things are 424 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: coming your way to that that is so great. I 425 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: think we've discussed it before on the show, but we 426 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: listened to these episodes before they publish to make sure 427 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: there are any mistakes or anything we want to take out. 428 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: And the other day I was listening to the Pimento 429 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: cheese one, and I caught myself doing this too, and 430 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is weird. I 431 00:29:54,280 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: need to step back. Oh weird. Yeah, I I don't 432 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: think I've ever done that to our shows. I do 433 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: have a friend who who listens um to one of 434 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: the other shows that I do, American Shadows, and she 435 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: says that a um. Occasionally her roommates will be like, 436 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: is Lauren over what's going on? Why are you talking 437 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: about murder? Um? And also that when I say I'm 438 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogel bum um, She's like, Hi, Lauren, So I 439 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: know right right, I love it. I love it. I do. 440 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I catch myself doing that too. Um, but usually uh to, 441 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: Like when I'm watching a movie or something, I'll talk 442 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah. And I've for some reason lately, I've 443 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: caught myself apologizing to furniture a lot. Okay, Um, Like 444 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: if I bump into something, I'm sorry, but it's like 445 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: an inanimate it's definitely inanimate. Yeah, I will. I will, 446 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: especially in frustrating moments and television shows, whether they're meant 447 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: to be frustrated or not. If a character is doing 448 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: something particularly dense, I'll be like, Dean Winchester, stop that, 449 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: just for example, just off the top of your head. Um, 450 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: well this also sounds like a wonderful cheese tradition. Yes, yes, yes, 451 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: uh no cheese left behind this. I'm so happy to hear. 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