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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And of course you can also

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Speaker 1: to see that lovely what was that lime green? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like like key lime green. Yep, yep, he's a

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Speaker 3: shirt that Jerry Dulac was always a colorful fluorescent fella.

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Speaker 3: That's a golf thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to make sure you can see you

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Speaker 1: out on the golf course so you don't get hit

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Speaker 1: in the back with a ball like by Larry David did.

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Speaker 3: I pretended like I know, and I just assume there's

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Speaker 3: awesome courses here, but they're.

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Speaker 1: They're a great course. Yeah, Florida's just littered with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would think in this area you've seen

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Speaker 3: it was a high end course. Yeah, it's very nice.

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Speaker 3: Not too shabby in Arizona last year either.

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Speaker 1: No, there's some good courses out there as well. And

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Speaker 1: well go figure that the NFL holds its meetings where

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Speaker 1: they're somewhere good to golf. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling a lot of the folks in

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Speaker 3: attendance brought clubs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did not, because we're on the air and

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Speaker 1: we're working, working man. Yeah, this is a working trip,

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Speaker 1: very much so for us in the NFL also doing

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Speaker 1: some work this today. A lot of the stuff starting

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Speaker 1: to be discussed and get voted on, and according to

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Speaker 1: Ian Rapidport, he is hearing that the hip drop tackle

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Speaker 1: has been voted on and it will be out lowed.

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Speaker 3: He kind of saw that coming. Yeah, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: defense isn't gonna like it. Their job is admittedly very,

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Speaker 3: very difficult, but the league wants more points, they want

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Speaker 3: player safety, yet.

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Speaker 1: They don't want their star players being taken off the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure we'll see plenty of flags this

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Speaker 3: year because you know, habits are hard to break. But

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Speaker 3: there are a few players like I think the especially

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Speaker 3: Bengals as just comes to mind. Just seems to happen. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think that was in the cards and makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know that that particular play. You

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Speaker 3: Sliding down with all your weight across his lower body

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Speaker 3: is just screaming for ankles and knees and muscle pools

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Speaker 3: and tendons and all those things. Yeah, it's just rough

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Speaker 3: on the human body. But I do feel for these tacklers.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's they're pretty hamstrung. I mean, they really are.

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Speaker 3: Mean sometimes you look at them like how much do

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Speaker 3: they really want player safety? But I really do believe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been something you know, and we've talked to

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Speaker 3: I mean since COVID it's been down heavy touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: just don't get those explosive returns even out to midfield.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to allow those of the top.

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Speaker 3: that I got nothing to lose.

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Speaker 1: Make him put it into turkey hole a lot. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: If he made that up or not. And I also

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that's going to start to shift a

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Speaker 3: Seen this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: This year's draft just kind of starts to balance things out.

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Speaker 3: The first stepped that the offense is counterpunched.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even last year's draft, there weren't the premium pass

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I do think the receivers have come in

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Speaker 3: the league have been great, great, great, great all along.

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Speaker 1: And now we're starting to like this year's defensive back

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Speaker 3: I mean's deep, but it's not elite.

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Speaker 1: It's not elite, but you know, the last couple of

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Speaker 3: My point there was I think the receivers over the

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Speaker 3: more drastick. But this year they're not. I mean this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Edge. Tomman was asked about that yesterday. You

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Speaker 1: they've been doing seven on sevens since they were eight

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Speaker 1: know how to run routes much better. Yeah, much better

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Speaker 1: he's like, I saw Sauce Gardner at sixteen. You know,

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Speaker 1: it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're recognized, Oh that's a pretty good young player.

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Speaker 1: He might have a future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: The seven on seven stuff is really sweeping the world,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's flag has gotten bigger as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not the same George Pickens played on

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton's Cam Newton sponsored a seven on seven team

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Speaker 3: See, I think that's only going to grow. And I've

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Speaker 1: The type of thing or even direction with the flag

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Speaker 3: So, But that being said, I mean the league showed

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Speaker 3: and I still need big people. You still need big people.

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Speaker 3: Those guards are getting huge contracts. All the running backs

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Speaker 3: in day one two they I mean I pivoted to Josh,

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Speaker 1: I So in the period between the legal tampering period

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Speaker 1: I mean that was more than any other position.

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Speaker 3: And it's never like that. At that position. You can

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Speaker 3: they've moved on. So I do think the league back

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Speaker 3: a lot of dime, a lot of too high. The

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Speaker 3: have three massive interior alignment now and they're always known

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Speaker 3: for throwing it around the yard with Stafford, Well, if

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, they ran them very effectively last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ball to Pooka Nikua and being cup in those guys here. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know the Steelers were able to win that

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Speaker 3: So I could beep bringing up the Rams because they

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Speaker 1: And I know people look at future quarterback classes and say,

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Speaker 3: Next year. I totally get that, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: At least have you at least think about it. You

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Speaker 1: It's the off season, you know it goes Omar Kahn

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Speaker 1: Right, He's got to come in and perform at a

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Speaker 3: DJ Watt and Isaac Seeamal who say Field is better,

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Speaker 3: guys and you gotta play, and.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, you know, in retrospect, you know if

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Mike Rabel, who was the head coach at

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Speaker 1: that time, after they got done with that season, said

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Speaker 1: you know what, we probably should have gone with Tanny

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Speaker 1: Hill from the beginning and put Mariota on the bench.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I did a podcast yesterday about this,

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Speaker 3: the two full seasons that Tannehill and Smith put together

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Speaker 3: over that two year stretch. I think it was nineteen

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Speaker 3: and twenty or twenty. It was nineteen and twnineteen twenty,

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Speaker 3: his all his advanced metric stuff were top three in

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Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, I mean, I'm talking like EPA.

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Speaker 1: And he had never been that guy before that gone.

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Speaker 3: For a fifth round pick because people thought he was

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Speaker 3: not a bust, but he was kind of a washout

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Speaker 3: in Miami. It's like, we gotta move on for this guy.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's when they drafted.

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Speaker 1: Two or shortly shortly after they were moving there Teddy Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: I think for a year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they had a bridge bridge over the water bridge

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Speaker 3: over very troubled water. Yeah, but I just thought that dynamic.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just wonder if that's something because if

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Speaker 1: you think about it, that Picket Trubisky camp was really

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Speaker 1: the first time in his coaching career that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: had had to maneuver through a quarterback competition.

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Speaker 3: And we talked about that a lot, because Rudolph deserves

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Speaker 3: some time too, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, he only I've seen I saw the competition that

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Speaker 1: Bill Cower had when he had three guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Miller's right down there doing serious radio and he

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Speaker 1: was one of them. And it's just it, it didn't

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to get three guys ready, it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: You can't. You don't have enough time. Is you certainly

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Speaker 1: don't have enough time in today's NFL with shortened training

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Speaker 1: camps and shortened OTAs and a shortened preseason to figure

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Speaker 1: that out.

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Speaker 3: And in a way, Rudolph got a little bit of

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Speaker 3: the short end of the stick on that. And what

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Speaker 3: I think could be different and I don't expect there

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Speaker 3: to be a three way in any way stretcher for where.

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Speaker 3: But Wilson might not need as much as Trubisky.

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Speaker 1: He won't need as.

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Speaker 3: Much, you know, his first year here at all in

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Speaker 3: terms of reps. Certainly preseason play too, Like he may

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Speaker 3: not even play in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean I assume it play

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Speaker 1: a little bit play like.

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Speaker 3: A bad number of snaps maybe or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Something ye had just enough to okay, he's he's okay,

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Speaker 3: he's run with his team. But yeah, this one's a

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Speaker 3: little different. But a three man true three man competition

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Speaker 3: is almost impossible to be fair to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with three preseason games and you just don't

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Speaker 1: have enough time.

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Speaker 3: Then there's two days anymore. But there was a lot

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Speaker 3: less practice. Yeah, for sure, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 1: and watching it on YouTube as we bring that to

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Speaker 1: you here on the video check that out on a

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Speaker 1: Steelers YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Page, getting a lot of clicks. People were into it

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Speaker 3: absolutely as they should. I mean, what more do you

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Speaker 3: want to see than us? You know, that's jazz hands

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Speaker 3: faces for radio on TV. See how that experiment goes. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna take a break. We are here at

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Speaker 3: the NFL Spring meetings. Everything happening here, people shuffling by us.

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Speaker 3: Just saw Omar Kahn walk by a little bit ago.

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Speaker 1: Uh. But uh, we're gonna get to a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson except no others. Matt. We are live here at

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Speaker 1: the at the NFL meetings here and stuff is going on.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the coaches are starting to talk. The AFC

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Speaker 1: coaches talking this morning, and Mike McDaniel was asked about

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and he said that the Dolphins have an

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Speaker 1: offer out to Odell Beckham. They're just waiting to see

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Speaker 1: what he does.

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Speaker 3: It's so odd for me for a coach to say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean they've got Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they've signed a third guy too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know how that, why that

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Speaker 1: would fit, or why they would want to. Like you,

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Speaker 1: they lost a lot of defensive players in the digit

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Speaker 1: sy in cuts, and they're gonna go more heavily on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've made a lot of moves. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I thought on the field their fifty

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Speaker 3: three man roster would get hurt a lot more in

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Speaker 3: free agency than it did. I mean, they lost some people,

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Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins being the biggest of them, cut Baker Howard

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Speaker 3: the corner. So they have made some moves and lost

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Speaker 3: some big name guys. But I think they mashed out

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Speaker 3: the credit cards again and decided we're going to take

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Speaker 3: another shot at offense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Odell Beckham helps them win a

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Speaker 1: game in Kansas City in January.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or Buffalo or Pittsburgh or does that imply Waddle

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Speaker 3: might not be back a year from now or I

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Speaker 3: don't know, probably not. I'm sure it's a one year

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Speaker 3: deal for Beckham many which way you cut it. If

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Speaker 3: they were to do any team designs them and my

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Speaker 3: old begel.

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Speaker 1: But it does you know, I mentioned before, if you're

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, and if let's say the Dolphins do sign

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and they say, you know what, we got

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Speaker 1: to pick up the fifth year option on Wattle. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. We're gonna trade him away.

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Speaker 3: We brought him up before. You know, DeVante Smith, Waddle,

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Speaker 3: a couple of guys from that class.

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Speaker 1: Me, Wattle would be the more appealing one.

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Speaker 3: Me too, Me too, Yeah, I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 3: an exceptional player. Both would be great additions, of course,

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Speaker 3: But you know, guys on their fifth year option have

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Speaker 3: been moved, even if they are very happy with their team,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. So I mean I think it's worth kicking

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Speaker 3: the tires on. He wouldn't be cheap.

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Speaker 1: And oh but again, tho those receivers that have been

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Speaker 1: traded over the years in the in these similar situations.

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Speaker 1: That was a J. Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've they've worked out, they've worked out.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you brought that up yesterday because I said

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Speaker 3: something along the lines yesterday of a lot of these

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Speaker 3: high pick for player that I have to sign moves

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Speaker 3: have it worked out? But then you corrected me. You're like,

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Speaker 3: except for the receivers.

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Speaker 1: Receivers. Receivers have, Yeah, they have, They absolutely have, so

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Speaker 1: that that would just be interesting. Not surprisingly, Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: says that McCarthy's the best quarterback in this draft. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a little biased in that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's strong that way. One thing about him that

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for. But obviously he

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Speaker 3: can go over the top with too. Is he is

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Speaker 3: exceptional or really really strong at pumping up his players.

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Speaker 3: I mean he'll do it with the Chargers, did it

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Speaker 3: with the Niners, you know, every step of the way.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's great. I mean I think it

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Speaker 3: instills confidence in his guys and gets the most out

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Speaker 3: of him. It's part of his appeal. But he could

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Speaker 3: go over the top on it too. Yeah, a little bit,

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Speaker 3: a little bit. But they're also not the quarterback part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, would it surprise you if all their

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Speaker 1: draft picks this year were Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention, he may have an ulterior motive too,

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Speaker 3: of hey, come to five and get McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some of that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it might help the Chargers, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor saying that the Bengals are encouraged by Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow's recovery. Everything is right on schedule. I think we

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Speaker 1: forget he had a wrist injury last year that side

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Speaker 1: lined him on his throwing hand.

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Speaker 3: I think we forget that he misses like every preseason

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Speaker 3: in camp since he's been in the league. It's a

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Speaker 3: bit of an issue. I think he's had one real offseason, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean the epidectomy, the one year. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: had a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: He had a knee.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a phenomenal player, but the one negative

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Speaker 3: or concern is durability.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is something that you have to

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Speaker 1: look at. And they've invested now in two gigantoys, gigantic

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles. They look like the two Colossus of Rhodes,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, standing on either end of the line.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're the most mobile.

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Speaker 3: Guys in their style is pretty obvious, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of it I think is on Burrow too. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's not Josh Allen Ben Roethlisberger in terms of bill

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Speaker 3: when he's a little leaner, but he's incredibly competitive. He

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Speaker 3: holds a ball in the pocket as long as you

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Speaker 3: possibly can to take the hit, and you know, his

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Speaker 3: teammates love him for it, and he's a great player

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Speaker 3: because of it. I think they'd love it more if

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Speaker 3: self preservation would be a little more in tow Not

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Speaker 3: to mention the Bengals game a huge contract to protection

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Speaker 3: off a little Yeah, he needs.

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Speaker 1: You out there, big guy. Yeah, if you look at

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Speaker 1: just look at here for John Harbaugh said that Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 1: who they signed in the free agency, speaks to how

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Speaker 1: we want to play and approach the game.

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Speaker 3: He sure looks like a Raven.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way around it.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think the Ravens lost a lot more

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Speaker 3: than they gained this year too, including the coordinator. But boy,

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Speaker 3: he fits in well. I mean I think the rest

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Speaker 3: of the division is not thrilled with that signing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know. He's at that magic thirty

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Speaker 1: age where you know, at some point they you know,

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Speaker 1: the running backs just happened. They fall off the cliff.

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Speaker 3: I know, And I've doubted him for three years now

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Speaker 3: from that same reason. I think he might just be

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Speaker 3: different than others. It is coming, I mean it's coming,

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Speaker 3: there's no question about it. And his wear and terror

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Speaker 3: going back to not even a college, but the high

635
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Speaker 3: school is massive. I mean, he's had more carries over

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Speaker 3: the last ten twelve years as a seventeen to thirty

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Speaker 3: year old than any times a thousand. But he's different

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Speaker 3: than everybody else too, and he was, you know, behind

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Speaker 3: maybe the worst line in the league last year in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: He was one of the best backs in the league

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Speaker 3: after first contact still, and I didn't think he had

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Speaker 3: that in them.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be interesting to see what Baltimore

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Speaker 1: does to continue to improve their offensive line because they've

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Speaker 1: had some losses. They're kind of surprised that that Morgan

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Speaker 1: Moses trade. You're you're already in a situation where you

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Speaker 1: maybe need to upgrade your offensive line and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: give up a who's a guy's been a pretty good player.

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Speaker 3: For you, and Moses isn't young, and I'm sure they'll

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Speaker 3: draft these guys like crazy, but he's a quality right

651
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Speaker 3: tackle and that line has been hit hard. Back to

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Speaker 3: the running back situation for them.

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Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins is still floating around, and I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: That's all injury related, but if I were them, I'd

655
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: probably use a third round pick on a power back,

656
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, as Henry insurance. But I think he's never

657
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: been a great receiving back, not that they throw the

658
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: backs a lot anyways. I mean, the difference between Mitchell,

659
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: who's tiny, and a good receiving back in Henry couldn't

660
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: be any more stark. But that's also a heck of

661
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: a tell too. I mean, there's a much different players

662
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: the total spectrum. So maybe they draft someone that's somewhere

663
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: in between, a Dobbins type guy to have for a

664
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Speaker 3: four year deal. You know, maybe Henry's replacement a year

665
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: from now, but their own line needs work.

666
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Andy Reid said that multiple teams came

667
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: after defensive coordinator Steve Spagnola in this offseason.

668
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Would you be anxious to go if you were Spaggs?

669
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean got a pretty good on. Yeah,

670
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: I know we're probably gonna get twenty five or so

671
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: or plus.

672
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: You know of that, and all I get to the

673
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: playoffs every year I got. I may have had more rings.

674
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's being compensated extremely well by defensive coordinator standards.

675
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: And hey, I mean it's kind of like a Dickla

676
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: Bo thing where I tried the head coaching thing. It

677
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: didn't go well at all, and I didn't like it

678
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: so much. I didn't get the X and O and

679
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: game plan against you know, super Bowl teams. I like

680
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: what I'm doing and I'm one of the best ever

681
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: to do it. Why change at this stage of my career.

682
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: He's not thirty five.

683
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye just got an email in here that the

684
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: league has officially approved some new playing rules. The first

685
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Speaker 1: one is the Detroit rule that a Men's Rule fifteen,

686
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Section one, Article one, to protect the club's ability to

687
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: challenge a third time if you get a successful challenge.

688
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: If you remember, if you'd missed on a challenge one

689
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: of your first two challenges, still you only got one more.

690
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Even if you got that one right, oh okay, you

691
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: only had two. Well, now if you get one of

692
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: the first two right, you then get a third.

693
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Speaker 3: Oh okay. That's logical to me. I would bet that

694
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: was probably an easy stamp of approval on that one.

695
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Speaker 1: We also talked about the hip throw tackle. The other

696
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: one that they approved, I'm gonna have to have somebody

697
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: explain this one is to allow the enforcement of a

698
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: major file by the offense prior to a change of

699
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: possession in a situation where there are files by both teams.

700
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: We talked about that.

701
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a little convoluted to me when we

702
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: talked through it yesterday.

703
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to hear a better. Somebody gonna have

704
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: to do some.

705
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Speaker 3: Lucy got some and yeah, above my pay grade, figure

706
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: that one out.

707
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Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a press conference maybe too. Uh, yeah,

708
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: it's going to explain that here kicking off roll. I

709
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: believe it's just kicked off.

710
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: So it seems like a flock of people are moving

711
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: at a rapid rate in that direction.

712
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe something we'll get some We'll get some additional

713
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: explaining on on that rule and exactly what that means.

714
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: People wonder why the NFL game is so difficult to officiate.

715
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: Oh man, if you've ever been down on the field

716
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: near the game, you would.

717
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: Understand completely big people moving very fast.

718
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, the earth rumble like you know.

719
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Then you get the stuff that that Hey, if it's

720
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: this much here or that much there, it's a file.

721
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: If it's not, you know, if if the helmets and

722
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: here as opposed to hear.

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all the difference in the world. Yeah

724
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: or yeah, Yeah, I don't envy the officials at all either.

725
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: I'd be terrible at it. I can't imagine what they

726
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: go through and what the answer is, but I do

727
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: think they do a much better job than people give

728
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: them credit for. It's one of those jobs like.

729
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: When you screw so the thing is you screw up,

730
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: and every it's it's immediately on social media now and

731
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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I'm as guilty as that as

732
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: anybody because because they do screw some stuff up. But

733
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Speaker 1: it's not like it used to be where, you know,

734
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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, there was not social media out there,

735
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Speaker 1: and you didn't have you didn't have any rules experts.

736
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, on the actually part of the broadcast team

737
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: is a former official explaining, well, I think they got

738
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: it wrong on this one. Where they got it right

739
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: on this one, but the fact that we have guys

740
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: like that just shows you how the popularity of the game. Yeah.

741
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: I always go back to the camera angles too, Like

742
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: was there how many camera angles were They're the immaculate

743
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: reception two, you know, I mean they probably would have

744
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: got that call right, whether it helped.

745
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: Steelers or done. You mean, they got it right, they

746
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: definitely are right.

747
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean times have changed dramatically and these

748
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: officials only have one angle where we have seven or

749
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: eight to look at full speed super slow motion. And

750
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: the fingertips did the ball at the ground, they ball

751
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: to the laces whatever it is.

752
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: So it's a brutal job. Well, at this with Jerry

753
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: Jones said that last year at this time, he's saying

754
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: that the the Cowboys were all in on winning and

755
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: now he's saying that they need to win with less. Okay,

756
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean they haven't done anything in front of He's

757
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: done nothing to me.

758
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: That just says we got to get Parsons, Lamb and Dax.

759
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: I guess the stars that they get to Ye, they

760
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: have the supporting cast. The Tyler b Oartish's of the

761
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: world are going to be replaced by Rokies, by Jeep Labor. Right,

762
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: that's a tough way to live, but it is. You

763
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: don't those guys leave either.

764
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Speaker 1: That's another team that you know they're gonna have a

765
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: decision to make on Dak Prescott.

766
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Speaker 3: A lot of people think he's gonna be the hight

767
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: pied player in the league very soon.

768
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, does he become the next Kirk

769
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: Cousins and is a quality quarterback hitting the league? You know,

770
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: hitting the open market, that.

771
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Speaker 3: He'd make a lot more than Cousins if he was

772
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: on the open market. Yeah, So I don't think he'll

773
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: leave Dallas. But I don't think so either. But you

774
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: never know, No, I mean, stranger things have happened. Oh absolutely,

775
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: But they're in a weird place. They've got, you know,

776
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: they don't pick early the San Francisco quarterback on their roster. Yeah,

777
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: Trey Lance and they also have Rush who's the two?

778
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: Really?

779
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if somebody'd be interested in Lance for

780
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 3: a four or five or something like that at this point.

781
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: They weren't a year ago. And he hasn't changed.

782
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: He still hasn't played anymore.

783
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: No, no tape on him.

784
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sean Peyton said it is realistic for Denver to

785
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Speaker 1: trade up for a quarterback in this draft.

786
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: I saw that it could be. I mean, they're just

787
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: so light on resources after the Wilson trade. They need

788
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: so much infrastructure that isn't there. They don't have a

789
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: wealth of draft picks. They haven't had draft picks that

790
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: are cheap labor from the last couple of years. But

791
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: how else do you get a quarterback? I mean, I

792
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: think you could get nicks at twelve or thirteen or

793
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: wherever they're.

794
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: At, which I think is a good fit for them.

795
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I don't even love Nicks, but I

796
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: think he would fit well with what Peyton.

797
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: I very much too too.

798
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: But I'd might try to take them at twenty five

799
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: and pick up more picks, you know. I I think

800
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: they're in for a very very long year, and I

801
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: would not be wanting to be the GM of the

802
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: Broncos right now. You know, if the thirty two jobs

803
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: get me a Super Bowl roster, if that's your job

804
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: as GM, they'd be one of my last picks.

805
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was kind of surprised that Peyton

806
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: took that job a year ago.

807
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: That well, it's paying very very well too. Well, yeah,

808
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: they're sad. Yeah, you think there's a lot of job security.

809
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean there's I was listening to some Broncos reporters

810
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: saying they thought Certain might get moved and Sutton and

811
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: you know, really blow it up.

812
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, if you move Certain, you could get

813
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: a first run draft pick. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

814
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: think So that's the thing that I think a lot

815
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: of times fans overestimate, and apparently some media as well.

816
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Overestimate the value of a player right on the open market.

817
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Because the contract contracts matter.

818
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: That's huge.

819
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a the player minus the compensation, minus

820
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: the caps face, minus how I you know, his age

821
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: and all those things too. And these guys get hurt

822
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, your asset's gone.

823
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: And the other thing that you have to factor into

824
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: it is the availability in free agency and the draft. Yeah,

825
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's a cost. That's why the wide receivers

826
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: that moved this year, including Deontay Johnson, I don't think

827
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: that the return was quite that people might expect because

828
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: this draft is loaded with wide receivers. Yeah.

829
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I also think it was telling that the

830
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: quarterbacks kind of at the picket level the howls and

831
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: mac jones and fields and didn't get there, didn't get

832
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: the picks that people thought, which also tells me I

833
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: think the league really values as we've been saying for

834
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 3: months now, rounds one through four, yeah, or premium picks

835
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: this year are pretty solid, really, and they're better than

836
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. So it's like we're going

837
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: to take advantage of this draft. And we mentioned it too,

838
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like didn't seem like much in the Picket

839
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: deal to move up or in the Johnson deal to

840
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 3: move up. That's more valuable here than most.

841
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, you want to have those extra picks in

842
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: those first four rounds are key in this particular draft.

843
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

844
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

845
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We are here in Orlando at the

846
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: NFL meetings. Some of the stuff starting to take place here.

847
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get a little more news on some of

848
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: these rule pertob program.

849
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: Sounds like thats as.

850
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: We come here back for the final segment of today's drive.

851
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: Right after this is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

852
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

853
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

854
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: And we are back Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson at

855
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: the owners meetings here in Orlando. Matt here for this

856
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: final segment. I just found this on ESPN. Here they

857
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: have their off season power rankings. Okay, room, Yeah, we

858
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: did the nfls last week. Let's see where the Steelers

859
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: come at in on this one. I would guess it's

860
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: probably right around I think the Steelers were thirteenth.

861
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: I would say twelve. I think you're right that neighborhood.

862
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: Right in that area. After the offseason moves here. They

863
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: also have the under the radar signing for each team.

864
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting.

865
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so at thirty two are still the Carolina Panthers.

866
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: They're under the radar. Move was signing defensive tackle Ashawn Robinson.

867
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 3: That's a quality player, run stuff for grown man, strength

868
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: type of guy.

869
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: And it's an interesting They did a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 3: They lost a lot. I mean, they took their defensive

871
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: allocations move them to offense, which I understand. I mean,

872
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: at least give Bryce Young a chance.

873
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw something recently too that said that Derek

874
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Brown might be available from them for a trade. That

875
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: would be interesting.

876
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 3: See he's he's a free agent to be right now.

877
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: And I saw that the other day and thought he

878
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: would fit in here really well.

879
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a really good player, a.

880
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: Lot like bent that nobody knows about, because, as as

881
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 3: Dante Jackson told us last week, nobody really has seen

882
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: any Carolina Panthers games unless you have to stumble across them.

883
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: The only thing I would hesitate there is I mean,

884
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: I bet you could get them for a reasonably good

885
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: pick because they're.

886
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: Not winning anything this year. They you know, they need.

887
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: Cap space, they need their their caps on as because

888
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: you think either but then you would have to invest

889
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: in the NFA. You got a lot of money on defense.

890
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: It's kind of this need conversation week yesterday. But boy,

891
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: he'd be a good Steeler.

892
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: At thirty one, and this is down from their final rankings.

893
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: With thirty is New England and they're under the radar

894
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: move with signing kJ Osborne.

895
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: He's fine. I mean he's a three or four. Yeah,

896
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 3: he's okay, I mean I like him. He's yeah, Yeah,

897
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: he might catch a lot of passes for him this year.

898
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: But that's more of an indictment on their pass catcher.

899
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 3: It's an indictment on what the moves that they've made.

900
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

901
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, their offense so needs a lot.

902
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: At thirty down from twenty nine is Arizona and they're

903
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: under the radar. Move is shining Sean Murphy Bunting. I

904
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: think they were much higher in the rankings on Yeah,

905
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I think.

906
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: This morn dye more of what they are though, I mean,

907
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: who who are a high end starter or an above

908
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: average starter on that team right now, there's not many.

909
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: And Murphy Binding is a quality addition too. Yeah, it's

910
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: a good starter.

911
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: At twenty nine, up from thirty one are the Washington Commanders,

912
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: and they're under the radar. Move and oh man, this

913
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: is this is a stretch hiring Lance Newmark as the

914
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: assistant GM. I don't even know who Lance Newmark is.

915
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: I have a feeling he's friends with the writer of

916
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: this article.

917
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: Apparently Lance Newmark is someone who's never been in my kitchen.

918
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this article brought to you by John Newmark,

919
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: mister Mindy Sydney Newmark, his wife. It's one he could

920
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: have just walked by us down. We just brought it,

921
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: did it right?

922
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

923
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: How great would that be if the Newmark family this

924
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: one strolled by. But this kid's start throwing stuff at

925
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: as little kids.

926
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: At twenty eight, down a spot are the Giants, and

927
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: they're under the radar signing signing offensive lineman Germaine illuminar. See.

928
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: I think they completed their own line. I like what

929
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: the Giants did. I mean they have quarterback and receiver

930
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: questions galore, but you trade for burns, I mean both

931
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: both their lines got.

932
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: Better, way better. Yeah, yeah, which is a good way

933
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: to build.

934
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good start.

935
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: At twenty seven, down from twenty three or the Broncos,

936
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: and they're under the radar. Move is signing safety Brandon Jones.

937
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: I think they should be lower. I think they should

938
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: be lower in contention for first overall pick next year. Yeah.

939
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: At twenty six, oh, down from twenty five are the

940
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Chargers and they're under the radar. Move signing tight end

941
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: Will Disley.

942
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: No, I mean he's a blocker and a run first offense.

943
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: I mean I see what they're doing, but they gave

944
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: him pretty legit money.

945
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: Their offensive coordinator came out and said that Gus said

946
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: is a bell cow.

947
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: Back who I will fear for Herbert's feature in some ways.

948
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're to utilize them.

949
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Just saying it now, Yeah, do not draft Justin Herbert

950
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: even they take in fantasy this year.

951
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: You think it neighbors or something like that. Still, they're

952
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: gonna go on the ball, run the ball. Yeah, it's

953
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: gonna be a transformation.

954
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: At twenty five, up from twenty eight are the Titans,

955
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: and they're under the radar. Move is hiring defensive coordinator

956
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: Denard Wilson.

957
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about Wilson, but that's that's fine.

958
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: I can't believe that.

959
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: At least he's somebody that does stuff on the field.

960
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean he's a coordinator. They're totally changing

961
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 3: how they play, not an assistant GM twenty four holding

962
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: steady the Raiders, and there they get two under the

963
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: radar moves, signing defensive tackles John Jenkins and Adam Butler.

964
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Both those guys I kind of like coming out of school,

965
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: but I've kind of felt like the ship sailed on them.

966
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: But it's probably it's better than what they had. They

967
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: also signed Christian wilk I mean they've really invested in

968
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: that defensive line.

969
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I guess those guys were cheap additions.

970
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: Under the radar, under the radar. Yeah, that is under

971
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: the radar. I'll give them that. Yeah, I dislike him.

972
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, at twenty three down from twenty the

973
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Vikings and they're under the radar. Move is re signing

974
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver Brandon Powell.

975
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that's real. I mean we're going pretty

976
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: far under the radar, much under the radar.

977
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: Like if I think he's this is top gun flying

978
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: in you know, under the in the valley. Yeah, if

979
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: you go above the valley, you're you get you.

980
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: I assume they think he's the kJ Osborne replacement type.

981
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Number three on the cheap at twenty two of

982
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: the Saints and they're under the radar. Move is signing

983
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: linebacker Willie Gate. That's a good one. That's a real

984
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah.

985
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean that one's not very under the radar, but

986
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: they always do high profile stuff. Yeah, at a high cost.

987
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: At twenty one, holding steady the Chicago Bears and they're

988
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: under the radar. Move was hiring wide receiver coach Chris Beatty.

989
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: Again, whoever the author here is knows some people in

990
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: the league that.

991
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: He's He coached Dj Moore at Maryland and spent three

992
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: seasons coaching Keenan Allen with the Chargers, so I guess

993
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: he has.

994
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: That's the didn't do much with Couton Johnson last year.

995
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: Interesting thing. I was thinking about this on the flight down.

996
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: So let's say, you know, when we when we do

997
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: mock drafts, and this was prior to Keenan Allen being

998
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: drafted or being traded for when we've done mock drafts

999
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: for the Bears. A lot of times we have them

1000
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: taking a wide receiver with their second.

1001
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, first dude's say yeah often, right.

1002
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: What if they do that? Now you've got DJ Moore

1003
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, and.

1004
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: You don't think I would? And the rookie, I mean,

1005
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: I would take him over any defensive players. Were the Bears,

1006
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: I'd take him over Bauer.

1007
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, now, does DJ Moore become available? I

1008
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: don't think so. They're playing in Chicago. They're gonna run

1009
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: a lot of eleven personnel in Chicago. If you have

1010
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: those three, you are. I mean, I just don't know

1011
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: if the weather is going to be real conducive to it.

1012
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1013
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 3: I think that's just a great landing spot for Williams.

1014
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: Then yeah, you know at twenty down from nineteen are

1015
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: the S. He had a Seahawks and the end of

1016
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: the radar move was keeping Tyler Lockett on a restructured deal.

1017
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.

1018
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping from a Steeler perspective, he'd

1019
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: get cut and signed to a one year deal. I

1020
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: still think he could play, and they just kind of

1021
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: restructured things.

1022
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: At nineteen up from twenty six are the Falcons and

1023
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: the end of the radar move was trading Desmond Ritter

1024
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: for Rondell Moore.

1025
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot to be

1026
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: said and there's something for this with Picket, there's something

1027
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: to be said with this with Mac Jones and how

1028
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: young starters that used to be on the billboards. It's

1029
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: probably better than gone, you know what I mean, because

1030
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: the new guy's coming to down. Rondell Moore is a

1031
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: nice piece.

1032
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: At eighteen down from seventeen or the Jets, and the

1033
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: end of the radar move is resigning safety Chuck Clark.

1034
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he was injured all last year, so

1035
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: that's I mean, I like him. He was a big

1036
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: important piece of the Ravens.

1037
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: At seventeen down from sixteen are the Buccaneers, and the

1038
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: end of the radar move was signing guard Suwa Opaeda.

1039
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: Okay, he's a guy no one's heard of, but he's

1040
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: a starter.

1041
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1042
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: That isn't going to break the bank in a guard

1043
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 3: market that was really expensive, really expensive.

1044
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. At sixteen down from fifteen are the Colts and

1045
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: they're under the radar move was signing quarterback Joe Flacco.

1046
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: I kind of get it that kind of downs. I mean,

1047
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: he couldn't be any more different than real.

1048
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: One hundred percent the opposite of what Anthony Richardson is,

1049
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: and so was Minshew. Yeah.

1050
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: I mean, but is he just a good influence in

1051
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: the room. Yeah, I mean, no question about it. Colts

1052
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: also didn't do much, so there's not a lot to

1053
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: pick for him. Yeah.

1054
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: At fifteen down from fourteen are the Jacksonville Jaguars, and

1055
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: the under the radar move was signing outside linebacker Travis Gibson.

1056
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: Ok not a guy I know a ton about, to

1057
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: be very honest with you.

1058
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: They gets him like a third pass rusher.

1059
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so he's an edge.

1060
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. At fourteen down from twelve are the Rams, and

1061
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: they're under the radar move was signing quarterback Jimmy Apollo.

1062
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: Might payoff staffords had to injury stuff and he would

1063
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: keep them highly competitive and they didn't pay a lot.

1064
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: As long as he can also stay healthy.

1065
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a backup, that's what he is.

1066
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. At thirteen are the Pittsburgh Steelers, up from eighteen.

1067
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: Up from eighteen. I don't know how they got to eighteen.

1068
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: They were playoffs and they're under the radar move. I

1069
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: don't know if this is under the radar signing inside

1070
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: linebacker Patrick Queen. Wow, it was like the biggest move

1071
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: they made. To me, it would have been Yeah, it

1072
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: would have been to Shawn Elliott. Yeah, that'd be good.

1073
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Or trading for Dante Jackson or you know, one of

1074
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: those moves. One of those moves.

1075
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: I mean as deep as they went on some of

1076
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: these teams, that one's not that one. Yeah, yeah, that's

1077
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: what put that one. That's the one you put on

1078
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: the billboard. I mean, that was your biggest price for you.

1079
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: I mean it's not the it's not on the radar

1080
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: as much as trading for two quarterbacks or getting acquiring

1081
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks.

1082
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: But I mean it's not as deep as your assistant

1083
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: GM or area of scouts or the SEC or whatever.

1084
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: Right Uh At twelve down from eleven are the Browns

1085
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: and they're under the radar. Move is signing linebacker Jordan Hicks.

1086
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: Hey, he's all right. I like them a lot more

1087
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: two years ago.

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Speaker 1: This was the argument we had the other day too.

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Speaker 1: Are the Browns right now better than the Steelers? I

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00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. But they are

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00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: right next to each other. Yeah, you know. At eleven,

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00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: up from thirteen are the Bengals. Under the radar move

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00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: is signing safety Von Bell. I like that move.

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00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: He went away for a year.

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00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: He's back the defense, get back and give your safeties

1096
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: were a mess last day. They were at ten, holding

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00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: steady of the Packers. The under the radar move is

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00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: revamping the strength and conditioning staff.

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00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: You gotta know the team pretty well. I mean, were

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00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 3: they that terrible?

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00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: At nine, down from seven are the Cowboys, and the

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00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: under the radar move was keeping assistant coaches Lounda Wells

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00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: and Al Harris.

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00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: That's till he's they haven't done anything anything. I mean

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00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: for that one, I understand digging that deep painting the

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00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: weight room doesn't count to me.

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00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Revamping the cafeteria menus.

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00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, there's a veggie burger.

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00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: At eight, up from nine the Houston Texans and the

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00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: under the radio radar move. And I didn't really like

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00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: this one was trading for an extending running back Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 1: I didn't either.

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00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: I thought that was their only move.

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00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: I didn't like it was a mistake.

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00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think he's easily defined in the

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00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: draft cheaper. I don't think he has a lot left,

1117
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: but it's a good situation for him.

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. At seven, up from eight are the Eagles and

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00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: they're under the radar. Move is hiring defensive coordinator Vic Fangio.

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00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: That's great one. That's a good one.

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00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Six of the Dolphins. I think they should be lower

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00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: than I would have him that high. They're under the radar.

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00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Move is hiring defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, but they then

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00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: gave him nothing to work with.

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00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: True, he's real highly respected in the Ravens organization and

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00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people think he's a future head coach.

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00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: But so it's a good stuff for him. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At five, holding steady and I don't know if they

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00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 1: should be holding steady are the Bills and they're under

1131
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: the radar. Move was promoting Bobby Babbage to the two

1132
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. He's got Pittsburgh tis his dad's a Pittsburgh guy.

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00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that, so I don't much about him,

1134
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: to be honest with you.

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00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: At four, down from one the Ravens, Uh, and they're agency. Yeah,

1136
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: they're under the radar. Move was trading offensive tackle Morgan Moses.

1137
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a case if you're in

1138
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: favor of it is, Hey, let's get out while we

1139
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: can still get something for him. He had some sort

1140
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: of peck surgery recently too, and he's been up in age.

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00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: He's played a ton of snaps. But how do you

1142
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: replace him?

1143
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: No, it's.

1144
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: Ye will fill the hole. Oh yeah, I don't know

1145
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 3: if he can hold the hole. Right at three, they're

1146
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers holding steady and they're under the

1147
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: radar movies trading for defensive tackle Malie Collins. Yeah he fits.

1148
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: I mean that that's a team that wants hockey waves

1149
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: a defensive lineman.

1150
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1151
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: I didn't love the gross Matos move, but they added

1152
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: quantity instead of quality, where last year they got the

1153
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: opposite with Art Grave.

1154
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: At to the Lions up from four and they're under

1155
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: the radar moves, keeping offensive coordinator Ben Johnson and defensive

1156
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: coordioner Aaron Glenn.

1157
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's huge. That was a big question Ben Johnson.

1158
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: I thought for sure he'd be a head coach.

1159
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: They won't be in the same situation next year, probably

1160
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: because they're gonna lose one or both and if.

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00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: Their season goes Yeah, that's the second best team in

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00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, which I don't know if those second

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00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: best team in the.

1164
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Speaker 1: League, but in Kansas City's number one, and they're under

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Speaker 1: the radar moves re signing defensive coordinator Steve Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling he never was threatened to leave,

1167
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: and everybody's happy about it. But interesting might have been

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00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: Marky's brown that's not under the radar.

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Speaker 1: Though, yea, yeah, no, I understand, yeah, but interesting, just

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: a little different perspective on some of those they dougrew deep. Yeah,

1171
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: you have to look some of those guys up. Yeah,

1172
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: there was a couple, didn't even a couple of players.

1173
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, but Matt, that's gonna do it for the

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Speaker 1: show to do absolutely well. We'll be back again tomorrow

1175
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Speaker 1: and then again on Wednesday. You can also watch the

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00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: show on YouTube, in addition to listening to it on

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00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: your favorite podcast downloader or Steelers dot Com or however

1178
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: you listen to the show. We appreciate that. But for

1179
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson here on uh, we've got Gerard

1180
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: Schaeffer here on site making sure we look all pretty

1181
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: well for the best that he can make us look

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00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: all pretty on YouTube and of course we have Justin

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00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: miller Beck in the in Pittsburgh keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 1: and we also want to thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio