1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. Coming up after two thirty, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Blake Trolley from KFI News. Well, they had a bill 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: up in the Uh, let's see, it was the Setate 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Public Safety Committee. Oh, there are a bunch of pranksters. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: The bill was simple, you couldn't sit or lie down, 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: or sleep or camp on a street or a public 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: sidewalk if you're within five hundred feet of a school, 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: a park, or a major transit stop. Huh that doesn't 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: sound controversial, Well it was. We'll tell you how a 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: bill did. Blake will be on to give us the tails. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: But first the circus in New York, Day two of 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Trump jury selection, and we've got Dave Packer from ABC 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: News who's going to tell us what went on today. Dave, 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: how are you well? 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: We made some progress, Yeah, John, some progress today in 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: this because we have six jurors now pick now. Yesterday 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: there was nobody the whole day, and you know, out 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: of over ninety people that were taken out of the 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: jury pool. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: But today they made some decisions. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: They made six people here, a software employee, a charter 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: school teacher, a lawyer. There's an attorney on the jury 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: as well, which is interesting, a nurse and a man 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: born in Ireland who works in sales now in Manhattan. 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: And what made these jurors golden? Like what was the 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: difference between them and the other ninety that they kicked out? 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: Right? 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, it's tough. There's a lot of 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: psychology that goes on. I mean, they obviously asked this 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: long list of questions that start out sort of generic. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: But get specific for this case because. 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Talking about well, you know, what TV channels do you watch? 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: Do you watch Fox, you watch MSNBC? What do you 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: post on social media? They don't know who these jurors 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: are when they come in the room, but as soon 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: as they start being questioned, they get their name, and 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: the defense starts to googling and going through social media, 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: and then they started questioning some of these folks out 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: there social media posts and even something maybe someone posted 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: five or six years ago derogatory towards the president. 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Can I ask you about that? Because I saw a 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: news report on this that the attorneys were looking at 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: past posts and that might lead them to want to 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: disqualify the juror, But they were checking those posts in 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: real time in the courtroom. I thought maybe they had 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: gotten the names, you know, a week ago, and they've 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: been spending all this time doing this research because it's 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: not easy to find in sundiary posts that quickly. 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you can do it. 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: They don't really know. 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: First of all, if you're in that jury room downstairs 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: from the courtroom, they don't know who's going to be 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: called to this pacific case. There are multiple courtrooms in 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: the building, and over the course of the day, you 56 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: could be called to a number of cases. If you've 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: ever served in jury duty, you know that you don't 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: know until you walk into the courtroom. So they don't 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: know who's going to be called for this particular case. 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, there has to be sort of a you know, 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: sort of a last minute aspect of this. But they're 62 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: they're digging information up and and they're you know, some 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: of it was questioned, some of it they the judge allowed, 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: and some of it the judge said, okay, you're dismissed. 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: So so the juror's name is announced and the lawyer's 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: scurry to their computer screens and just in a matter 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: of minutes say, oh, look, what he posted, you know, 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: three years ago about Trump. 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure of the logistics, but I'm sure 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: that off site they could probably do that and went 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: back to them via email. 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: I say, that's fascinating, all right. So, I mean some 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: some people I guess were rejected by their past posting. 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one person who you know, he had 76 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: a couple of lock it up posts. That doesn't you 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: don't want a juror who's posting lock lock them up. 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: That's probably probably not the most objective person, a little biased, Yeah, 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: but you know, really, I mean, who doesn't have an 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: opinion about Donald Trump in this country one way or 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: the other. The question is can you put that opinion 82 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: as side and can you not be impartial? But can 83 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: you judge this impartially? So basically, how professional can you 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: be sitting on that jury and how how much ability do. 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: You have to put that all aside? 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody is super inflamed on one side 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: or the other, that's not going to bode well. But 88 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: they're looking for somebody who can, you know, reasonably say 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: I'm taking this seriously and I'm going to judge this 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: on the merits and not based on what I think 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: about you know, Trump when he was president, or things 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: that he says, you know, on every social media feed 93 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: or whatnot. 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: Trump got fined. 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: Trump has got to make sure that he doesn't talk 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: during these proceedings, and he was doing that with his lawyer. 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: And he is also of course, you know, this was 98 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: during the jury selection. He was admonished for that. The 99 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: judge is also concerned that, you know, he's having these 100 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: these discussions with the press every time he comes in 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: and out of the courtroom. And you know, he was 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: doing that during the eg and Carroll. 103 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: Case that was a civil case. 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: I think this judge is not gonna there's a different 105 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: standard with a criminal trial. And you know, he wants 106 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: to also make sure that these jurors are all protected, 107 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: that you know, they're not intimidated in any way. 108 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean I read something that he was muttering and 110 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: that the judge took offense at the muttering, thought it 111 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: was an attempt to intimidate the juror. But the judge 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: couldn't hear what Trump was saying. 113 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he has a tendency to react, I guess, 114 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, so it's sitting there, you know, with your 115 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: mouth shut and your hands. You know, sitting on your 116 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: hands is a hard thing for anybody over the course 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: of hours of it, and for Donald Trump, I imagine 118 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: that's going to be that's gonna be tough. 119 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: One more thing, how long is the juris selection supposed 120 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: to take? They're looking for twelve jurors and six alternates. 121 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Is that the right? 122 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, there was talk to all This 123 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: could take weeks and weeks. This is kind of interesting. 124 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: The judge told the ones that were picked today to 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: come back on Monday. Does that mean the trial will 126 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: start on Monday? Not necessarily, but it does mean that 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: the judge is maybe a little bit more optimistic that 128 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: they'll make some progress. Uh there, you know, recess tomorrow, 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: but they'll be back Thursday and Friday. If they could 130 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: pick six more on Thursday and then pick the alternates 131 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: on Friday, they'll be in business for Monday. But it 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: seems like things are moving a little faster than we 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: thought they would even earlier today. So I would guess 134 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: that probably by at the latest midweek or next Thursday, 135 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: we should should be up and running. 136 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: All right, Dave, thanks very much for coming on. All right, 137 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: take care you bet Dave PACKRABYC News. He's in New 138 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: York on this Trump trial. All right, we got sketches. 139 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: I don't mean artistic sketches, but outlines of what these 140 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: first six jurors are about. The fourth person that is 141 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: the is married and oh it's the guy Dave mentioned. 142 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: He lives in West Harlem, works in Sane, and is 143 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: originally from Ireland. Okay. Another juror is a young black 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: woman who is who has friends with Ah. I thought 145 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: it says a woman who has friends. No, she has 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: friends with opinions about Trump, but she said she's not 147 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 1: a political person and she respects that Trump always speaks 148 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: his mine. Okay. Third juror an Oregon native who works 149 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: as a corporate lawyer at Gunderson Deltmer and then he 150 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: enjoys hiking and running. Lives in Chelsea. Another female software 151 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: engineer who lives in Chelsea. Jour Ner five, a forty 152 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: year old Lower East Side resident who he found He 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: said he found Trump fascinating and mysterious. He walks into 154 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: a room and he sets people off one way or 155 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: the other. I find that really interesting. Really, this one 156 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: guy can do all this. Wow, that's what I think. 157 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: He's an IT consultant. People are weird, aren't they really? 158 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 159 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: The sixth draws a female on collegey nurse at Memorial 160 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Sloan Kettering, and twelve people a few alternates, and then 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: maybe they will get this done in a few days. 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: But yesterday was rough. They had ninety six people selected Monday, 163 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: but only six out of the first ninety six. We 164 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: will continue after two point thirty. We've got Blake Trolley on. 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: There was imagine this. There was a proposed law for 166 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: the Senate Public Safety Committee to get all the vagrants, 167 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: drug addicts, mental patients off the streets, off the sidewalks, 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: especially if they're near schools and parks. Guess what the 169 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: Senate Public Safety Committee did. We'll tell you next. 170 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 171 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: six forty. 172 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: Did you hear I missed part one of this story. 173 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: But the attorney for the remains of OJ Simpson, the 174 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: rotting remains of OJ Simpson, he still has an attorney. 175 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: This guy is the executor of OJ's estate and he's 176 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: now changing his public comments that he made. Obviously, OJ 177 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: still owes. Originally it was thirty three and a half 178 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: million dollars to the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and 179 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Ron Goldman. Now with interest since the judgment, which was 180 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. If I remember, now, we're twenty 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: seven years later and he owes over one hundred million 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: dollars and has paid almost nothing. I read the other 183 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: day that maybe the only money that the Simpson and 184 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Goldman families got was when Fred Goldman, Ron's father got 185 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: the rights to that. Remember that stupid book he wrote, 186 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: If I Did It, where it was a confession disguised 187 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: as well, maybe this happened? Well, what if a confession 188 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: disguised as a hypothetical Because in his sick, twisted brain 189 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: he did want to talk about the murder obviously couldn't 190 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: admit to it or didn't want to, and so he decided, though, 191 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how I did it, or how he 192 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: wants to portray that it happened, And so he wrote 193 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: this book If I Did It. And you know, there's 194 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: a huge uproar. In fact, I think we led much 195 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: of the uproar at the time. After a while, the 196 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Goldman's got the rights to the book and they released 197 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: it and they got whatever money came from it. I 198 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: don't know if that's sold or not. Anyway, he's got 199 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: an attorney O Jay's remains, Malcolm Lavergnier. Guessing looks like 200 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: a French name, and he had said last week it's 201 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: my hope that the Goldmans get zero, nothing them specifically, 202 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and I will do everything in my capacity as the 203 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: executor or personal representative to try to ensure they get nothing. 204 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: What a nasty jackass. Huh. Now that doesn't sound legal, 205 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: does it. If somebody has outstanding debts, outstanding judgments, the 206 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: estate has to pay it. You can't get an executive 207 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: who says, well, I'm not following the law. I'm going 208 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: to violate the law. Well this where did I guess? 209 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: When you're OJ, you just get you just get the 210 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: riff raff, the riff raff attorneys. Malcolm Lavergnier. Well, he 211 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: got an interviewed about a Hollywood reporter yesterday and he's 212 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: singing a different tune now. He told the Hollywood reporter, 213 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you in advance, Fred Goldman's claim will 214 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: be accepted and his claim will be handled in accordance 215 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: with the Vada law. Yeah, how about that? Following the law? 216 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: Wow? 217 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: You know what I don't know where this I don't 218 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: know where this guy graduating in his class. So I'm 219 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: not casting aspersions, but I always remind people that, wow 220 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: is somebody. You know, you might have a valedictorian of 221 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: the class, they graduate first with honors. There's always somebody 222 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: who graduated last and next to last, like Joe Biden. 223 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: I heard graduated seventy six out of eighty five students 224 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: in his Syracuse law class. And that's what you get 225 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: for a lawyer. You got a Joe Biden. And there's 226 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys. But you know, there's there's, uh, 227 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: there's dark corners of the legal system that these guys 228 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: can thrive all the uh, you know, all the irritating 229 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: law and maybe they well I'm not going to disparage anybody, 230 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: uh but uh, I'm just walking a tightrope today. I'm 231 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: on the verge of saying really awful things today. Anyway, Huh, 232 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: come on, no, no, you don't know what goes on 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: in my head. It's far worse than anybody can imagine. 234 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Anytime somebody gets upset, it's like, oh, yeah, I can 235 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: do better than that. Wasn't that bad? Lavernier is now 236 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: admitting to the Hollywood Reporter that his original remarks aimed 237 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: at the Goldmans were pretty harsh, and he's now going 238 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: in the other direction. He says his initial response was 239 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: primarily due to anger directed at the Goldman's attorneys, and 240 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: he's now going to be hyper transparent with the Brown 241 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Simpson Goldman families. Hyper transparent. I'm going to show my 242 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: homework before I even have to give it to the 243 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: courts and see what we can do in terms of 244 00:13:52,640 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: getting this state in order. Oh, Ojay will be cremated. Boy, 245 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be fun to watch? Wouldn't you like a 246 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: seat right in front of the oven? How much would 247 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: you pay for a ticket? I pay a lot of 248 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: money for a ticket. I mean, I mean, what a 249 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: great what a great thing to get? Huh front row seat? 250 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Watching OJ's body go into the crematorium, into the oven? 251 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what is there? I mean, how does that work? 252 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: How our bodies cremated exactly. 253 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: Like that? 254 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: Do they do? They do they go through fire? And 255 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: and how do they extract the ashes? I'm actually interested 256 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: in the mechanics of it, the physics of it. 257 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 258 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: No funerals planned, although a celebration of life will be 259 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: held at some point a celebration of OJ's life. Well, 260 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: that'll be great. Uh, family and friends though, will be invited. 261 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: See oh. Laverne also said that OJ was diagnosed with 262 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: prostate cancer several years ago and it went into her 263 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: mission before it made a comeback recently and then that 264 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: was it. He was done. So, if I remember correctly, 265 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: back in ninety seven when the judgment was first made, 266 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: OJ was getting a pension from the NFL. I think 267 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: it was two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year 268 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: because of how much money he made the NFL or 269 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: maybe the players Union, I forget which. And then he 270 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and he had moved to Florida because in Florida those 271 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: kind of pension would be would be shielded as an 272 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: asset against any civil judgments. And then he moved to 273 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and after he got arrested in Las Vegas, 274 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever left that state. And 275 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, there are no laws in Las Vegas, so 276 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: you I'm sure all his money was safe there. But 277 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: if if this stuff becomes public, I wonder how much 278 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: he had at the end. I wonder if he had 279 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: somebody investing it for him and he made millions out 280 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: of it. He was always selling his memorabilia, but it 281 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: was always a cash deal. I read he sold a 282 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: ton of memorabilia to all the scumbags that wanted wanted 283 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: to show off to their idiot buddies. Look at this. 284 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: OJ sign this for me, but never did it on 285 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: the record because he didn't want the Goldmans to get 286 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: at any of that money. We come back. We're going 287 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to talk with Blake Trolley up in the Sacramento. They 288 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: had a great bill, and normal people would pass this bill. 289 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Normal people would have passed this bill years ago that 290 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: you can't sleep or sit or camp on a street 291 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: or sidewalk within five hundred feet of a school or park. 292 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: You know a way to keep child molesters and and 293 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: and sexual criminals away from children? Well, what do you 294 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: think the Public Safety Committee did tell you about it? 295 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: We come back. 296 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am six. 297 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Forty on the radio from one until four and after 298 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. That is the 299 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: podcast version. If you missed the show, part of it, 300 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: or all of it, or you want to hear it 301 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: again because it was so good. After four o'clock on 302 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. John Cobelt Show on demand, how are 303 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: you doing on moistline calls Eric, We're doing all right? 304 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: Still some room, all right? Still, get you some juice. 305 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: So if you've got to rant and rave about everything 306 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: that's wrong in the world, and everything is wrong right now, 307 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: I went through a list this morning, everything is wrong 308 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: eight seven seven moist eighty six, eight seven seven moist 309 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: eighty six. If you are alphabet challenged, it's eight seven 310 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: seven six six four seven eight eight six sixty six 311 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: four seven eight eight six. You can also, and this 312 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: is even easier, use the talkback feature on the Heart 313 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Radio app, and if you are deemed worthy by mister Squarer, 314 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: you will get on the radio on Friday. We now 315 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: go to Blake Trolley from CAFI News. Let's say you 316 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: have a gang of child molesters living in a tent, 317 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: homeless on a sidewalk near a school or a park. 318 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: Can they stay well? They Senate Public Safety Committee voted 319 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: on that this morning. And who do you think they sided? 320 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: With the school kids or the child molesters? You decide. 321 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: We've got Blake Trolley here. 322 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: What happened? 323 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 5: Well, of course, John Yeah, this ban from this band 324 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: of homeless camps within five hundred feet of schools, transit stops, 325 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 5: and open spaces failed in the Public Safety Committee. I 326 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: think at this point, if you pitch a bill to 327 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 5: these guys, you should just yell poll so that they 328 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: can shoot it down. 329 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to call it the Public Endangerment Committee. 330 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: I think that's where we're gonna rename it. You know. 331 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 5: The interesting thing about this bill is actually spearheaded by 332 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 5: Republican Brian Jones out of San Diego, but its principal 333 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 5: co author was Catherine Blakespear. Senator Katherine Blakespear, a Democrat 334 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 5: out of Incinitas. Both of these lawmakers are out of 335 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 5: the San Diego area and the I'm sorry, John, is 336 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: this car alarm behind bleeding through? 337 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it adds to the ambiance. It makes it 338 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: sound like you're in danger. 339 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 5: It literally went off as soon as we began this. Anyway, 340 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: So both of these lawmakers are out of San Diego, 341 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 5: and this bill is actually a direct model out of 342 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: a policy that San Diego passed, and they say it's 343 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: having a lot of success in the city of San Diego. So, again, 344 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 5: as I said, this ban would ban camps within five 345 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 5: hundred feet of schools, transit stops, open spaces. It would 346 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 5: ban camping on sidewalks if a shelter is available. It 347 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: would require a three day notice for encampment sweep so 348 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 5: that homeless people could get a chance to accept services, 349 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 5: and officers would be required to give information for you know, 350 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: in places these people could go real life artisan effort. 351 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: They so they would get warning that they got three 352 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: days to pack up their stuff and they would get 353 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: a list of places that they could move to get 354 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: some kind of service. So exactly what was the controversy 355 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: about this? 356 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so some of the pushback was that this will 357 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 5: criminalize homelessness. There was one woman who testified out of Fresno, 358 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 5: and what she said was is they have a similar 359 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: law in Fresno and that what it's effectively done is 360 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 5: pushed a lot of homeless people out of the city, 361 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 5: away from services, away from water, away from resources, away 362 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: with some of uh oh way for some of the 363 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 5: pushback that they got, you know, Senator Nancy Skinner said 364 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: that she didn't want to create a statewide housing loss. 365 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 5: She also said that it would criminalize homelessness, but she 366 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 5: mainly said we should leave this up to the up 367 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: to the cities to come up with their own loss here. 368 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand how does a criminalize lawlessness. They're not 369 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: arresting anybody. They're just saying you have to move, and 370 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: then you move. Nobody's getting arrested, nobody's getting charged with 371 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: any crime. You simply have to move. 372 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was one of the things that Skinner said. 373 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 5: It was it almost kind of works in favor of 374 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: what you're saying there, John. She said, this doesn't solve 375 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 5: the homelessness crisis, but what it really does is masks 376 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 5: it and makes it invisible, which I think a lot 377 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: of people would be kind of content with at this point. 378 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: That would be a big win if we could make 379 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: it invisible. And yeah, you take it away from schools 380 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: in parks where little children hang out, because a lot 381 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: of these guys are child molesters, they're sex molesters, they 382 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: have long criminal records. The criminals people good. 383 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 5: Some of the most powerful testimony that we heard in 384 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 5: support of this bill came from John Franklin. He's the 385 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 5: mayor of Vista. For those who don't know, Vista is 386 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 5: an interior city in San Diego County. It's just Inland 387 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 5: from Carlsbad, a few miles there. It's a town of 388 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: about one hundred thousand people. And John Franklin went out 389 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: in front of the Senate Public Safety Committee and he 390 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 5: just read testimony from educators, parents and students on what 391 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 5: they're seeing with homeless camps near schools. 392 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 6: From a parent, this morning, a homeless man became aggressive 393 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 6: and hostile toward me simply because he was asked to 394 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 6: leave the area that children were walking to school. The 395 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 6: person refused to leave when law enforcement was called to 396 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 6: remove them, and all of the young kindergarteners watched. This 397 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: is not something that kindergarteners or any student should be 398 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 6: experiencing on their way to school. From a student while 399 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 6: walking to school, it makes me feel very unsafe to 400 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 6: have them walk by and sit on the sidewalk, and 401 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 6: even at one of the exits to our schools. It 402 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 6: makes me feel anxious. I don't understand why the police 403 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 6: department won't help us. From another student, I feel nervous 404 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: sometimes when I walk to school, and usually try to 405 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: walk with other people because the homeless scare me. I 406 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 6: don't think it's right that I should feel nervous when 407 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 6: all I want to do is go to school from 408 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 6: a parent. The behavior of these homeless individuals is not 409 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 6: only vulgar, but it is harassing, also unsanitary. Their living 410 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 6: conditions often result in unsanitary uncleanliness, which poses a serious 411 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 6: health risk for the children in our community. And finally, 412 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 6: from the portrait one of our schools, every morning I 413 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 6: have to clean pee and poop off of the entrance 414 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 6: to One time a homeless man smeared his poop all 415 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 6: over the emergency door. 416 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: Wow, can you give me his name again? I want 417 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: to get him on the air. 418 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: I figured you would. Yeah, that is John Franklin. And 419 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 5: again he is the mayor of Vista, and he spoke 420 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: in support of this. I want to say, John, that 421 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: the activist groups and many other I guess you could 422 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: say organizations, nonprofit organizations came out in opposition of this. 423 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 5: They really lined up at the mic. A lot of 424 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: them didn't really, I mean some of them, and I 425 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 5: kind of touched on some of the opposition that we heard, 426 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: but a lot of them just simply named their organization and. 427 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: Said, yeah, we are opposed to this. 428 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 5: Well, these were, you know, I'll just name a few 429 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 5: corporation for Supportive Housing California, Public Defenders Association Housing California, 430 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 5: Disability Rights California. So you kind of get an idea. 431 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: These are the organizations that get some of that twenty 432 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: four billion dollars that the state is spent over the 433 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: last six years that the state cannot account for, and 434 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: it goes to organizations like this and all those people 435 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: get paid very well, and part of their job is 436 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: to show up at hearings whenever they want to pass 437 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: a bill that would restrict public homelessness, and they speak 438 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: out against it. That's what they're paid to do, so 439 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: they'll read the script whatever is handed to them. People 440 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: running these organizations are making six figures. It all comes 441 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: from the twenty four billion that Gavin Newsom and everybody 442 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: else in the government can't account for anymore. Can you 443 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: also get us that tape that you played of John Franklin, 444 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Could you send that to Eric somehow? 445 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, no, absolutely. 446 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to do a whole thing on this 447 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: because this crystallizes what's wrong what he's laying out. If 448 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: any rational person would would say, Okay, that sounds really 449 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: awful for those kids, So let's pass a law to 450 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: stop this. To change it, and instead you had these 451 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: Do you know what the final vote was in the 452 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Senate committee? 453 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 5: The vote it was, I believe, so it's a five 454 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: member panel. I believe it was three to one in 455 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 5: one abstaining and the only one vote, the only one 456 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 5: vote it had in support. And I can tell you 457 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 5: this was the Republican on this. This is Kelly Sciardo 458 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: out of Marietta. And you know Brian Jones. I had 459 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 5: spoken with him. I said, listen, you have bipartisan support 460 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: on this. Are you thinking about bypassing the committee and 461 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 5: just seeing if you can get a full floor vote 462 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 5: on this? And he said, yeah, he's going to be 463 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: talking to his co authors about bringing this to the 464 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 5: full Senate. It'll be interesting to see, you know, how 465 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 5: it lives on the actual floor, not just in this 466 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 5: micro committee. 467 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: I hope so, because there's always tricks like that you 468 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: can you can pull even if you're you get voted 469 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: down in a committee. The committee's not always the final say. 470 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: And I would love to make this really uncomfortable for 471 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: all the legislators if they voted against this. I'm all right, anyway, 472 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: get that tape over to to Eric Ray, all right, 473 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: and I want to talk to John Franklin on the air, 474 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: and we'll do more on this. In fact that we 475 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: got to, we gotta. I want to talk about the 476 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: people who are against this bill when we come back, 477 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: because we have their names. Thanks, Blake, very good, A right, John, 478 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: All right, even more material now, all right, after three o'clock, 479 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: we got Katie Grimes on from California Globe. Because the 480 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: Democrats in the Assembly are trying. They're very worried about 481 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: that proposition that would fix Prop forty seven, so they 482 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: want to muck up the atmosphere. I'll tell you about 483 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: that as well. 484 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: After three, you're listening to John Cobels on demand from 485 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty. 486 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Blake Tarley just did a great report covering what's going 487 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: on with the Senate Public Safety Committee up in Sacramento. 488 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: This was a bipartisan bill and this is simple. I 489 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: think we have this to a limited extent. Even in 490 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. You can't sleep on a street or sidewalk 491 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: within five hundred feet of a school or a park. 492 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: What's so complicated about this? And it lost in the 493 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Senate Public Safety Committee three to one. Now I'm going 494 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: to play again. This is John Franklin, the mayor of Vista, 495 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: explaining what having encampments near a school due to the children. 496 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 6: From a parent. This morning, a homeless man became aggressive 497 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 6: and hostile toward me simply because he was asked to 498 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 6: leave the area that children were walking to school. The 499 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: person refused to leave when law enforcement was called to 500 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 6: remove them, and all of the young kindergarteners watched. This 501 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 6: is not something that kindergarteners or any student should be 502 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 6: experiencing on their way to school. From a student while 503 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 6: walking to school, it makes me feel very unsafe to 504 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 6: have them walk by and sit on the sidewalk, and 505 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 6: even at one of the exits to our schools, it 506 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 6: makes me feel anxious. I don't understand why the police 507 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 6: department won't help us. From another student, I feel nervous 508 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 6: sometimes when I walk to school, and usually try to 509 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 6: walk with other people because the homeless scared me. I 510 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 6: don't think it's right that I should feel nervous when 511 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 6: all I want to do is go to school from 512 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 6: a parent. The behavior of these homeless individuals is not 513 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 6: only vulgar, but it is harassing also unsanitary. Their living 514 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 6: conditions often result in unsanitary uncleanliness, which poses the serious 515 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: health risk for the children in our community. And finally, 516 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 6: from the portraite one of our schools. Every morning I 517 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 6: have to clean pea and poop off of the entrance 518 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: to One time a homeless man smeared his poop all 519 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 6: over the emergency door. 520 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: One time a homeless man smeared his poop all over 521 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: the emergency door. Think about that. Think about what these 522 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: kids see when you hear that the homeless often act 523 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: vulgar Jaye, do you think maybe they're pulling out their 524 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: genitals and masturbating in front of the kids. That happens 525 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: a lot of are sex beings, they're child molesters, They've 526 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: got sexual felonies on their record, and they were let out. 527 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: There was a story that Steve Gregory had recently, and 528 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I knew this story was going to disappear, and we're 529 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: not going to let it. He found the transcripts of 530 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: a police commission meeting. Found the audio. It said that 531 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: seventy thousand homeless people in the city of Los Angeles 532 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: had been arrested over the last four years. Seventy thousand arrests, 533 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: many of them, I'm sure, multiple multiple times. Seventy thousand 534 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: arrests of homeless people in the last four years. Well, 535 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: they're living in these encampments, and these encampments have been 536 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: in front of schools. They're criminals, obviously, seventy thousand arrests, 537 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: and you heard what the children described that the homeless 538 00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: are doing. So who votes against it? Women vote against 539 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: this in the legislature? Why is this? Is it outrageous? 540 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: When we're told that we should have diversity, right, we 541 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: should have female legislators. They'll bring a more compassionate viewpoint? 542 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: Did that compassion extend to the children that they're capable 543 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: of bearing. Nancy Skinner is a woman, a Democrat. She 544 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: is from Berkeley. I guess she wishes that all the 545 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: children grew up in California the way children in Berkeley 546 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: have to grow up with, you know, crazy people screaming 547 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: at them, drug addicts howling into the night. I'm very 548 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: familiar with Berkeley. I've seen what goes on there. It's bad. 549 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: It's been bad for a long time. So I guess 550 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: we're all supposed to We're all living with unhealthy privilege, 551 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: and so we all our towns have to be dragged 552 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: down to the level of Berkeley. According to Nancy Skinner. 553 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: Then here's another piece of work, Aisha Wahab from Hayward. 554 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Hayward's another jewel. I guess she wants all the other 555 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: towns to be like Hayward Is, where everybody's scared for 556 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: their life. This was not about criminalizing the homeless, because 557 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: there's no there's no crimes here. It's simply you can't 558 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: lay down within five hundred feet of a school or park. 559 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: Excuse me a second, got an allergy or something? Five 560 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: hundred feet within a school or a park. This is 561 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: not sending them off to a camp, sending them off 562 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: to a prison. You get seventy two hours notice if 563 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: you're a vagrant, and then you have to clear your 564 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: own camp, and if you then create an encampment, it 565 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: would be a misdemeanor or an infraction. Well, none of 566 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: that's jail time. That's hardly criminalizing homeless. There has to 567 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: be something to enforce the law. You must enforce the law. 568 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: There's a penalty criminalizing the homeless. How many times do 569 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: you have to be told that you can't camp near 570 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: a school or a park. This doesn't ban homelessness, It 571 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: sends it away from schools. In parks, so little boys 572 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: and girls don't have to watch people injecting drugs into 573 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: their system, acting in a crazy, threatening, vulgar manner, sexually 574 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: pleasing themselves, making sexual comments to the kids, threatening the kids, 575 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: making them nervous. But Nancy Skinner of Berkeley and Aisha 576 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: wah Hob of Heyward thinks those kids should endure that 577 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: kind of torture. Hob said, just because people that are 578 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: unhoused make people uncomfortable does not mean it should be 579 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: criminalized making people uncomfortable. We're talking about little little boys 580 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: and girls here. Do they have to be made uncomfortable? 581 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: But some guy who shoots himself up with all these 582 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: poisonous drugs all day screams and yells and froths at 583 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: the mouth. Aisha Wahab and Nancy Skinner, Wow, it's good thing. 584 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: They good thing women are in the legislature to bring 585 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: that other point of view. You wouldn't want those cold hearted, 586 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: unfeeling men to be running things. Let's have some cold hearted, 587 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: unfeeling women too. I don't know, I don't know how 588 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: anybody who's a mother or could be a mother would 589 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: ever wish that on little kids just trying to go 590 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: to school. That's what we're gonna anyway. We're gonna have 591 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: John Franklin on tomorrow Mayor Vista. He's the one who 592 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: heard speaking in that tape. Just to recap because I 593 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: don't know if they introduced it right. In the second segment, 594 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: it's the Assembly Public Safety Committee. The bill lost three 595 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: to one to move the homeless away from schools and parks. 596 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: We have Katie Grimes coming on to talk about the 597 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: Democrats up in Sacramento being afraid of this referendum that 598 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: fixes Prop forty seven. Katie Grimes next, and we have 599 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: Ashley Johnson live on the IT with KFI twenty four 600 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: hour News. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt 601 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Show podcast. 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