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Speaker 1: October twenty seventh, twenty thirteen, Ford Field, Detroit, Michigan, thirty

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Speaker 1: three seconds left in the game. Calvin Johnson lines up

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Speaker 1: out wide. Matthew Stafford drops back, looks deep, he airs

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Speaker 1: it out to Calvin Johnson. He's down at the one

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Speaker 1: yard line, just enough time on the clock to take

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Speaker 1: a shot. This is the Fake Spike Game. Hello, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Games with Names presented by Win Bett. I'm

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel. We're on in the search

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Speaker 1: to find the greatest games of all time. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Week eight. The Lions a viable playoff team

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Speaker 1: at the time, Lions versus the Cowboys, America's team the

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Speaker 1: Fake Spike. Basically, this is just an excuse to talk

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Speaker 1: about Calvin Johnson. Two three hundred and twenty nine yards

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Speaker 1: teddy and fourteen snags and he should have had like

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns. He kept getting tackled at like the two

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Speaker 1: this whole game. He's getting tackled right before he breaks in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was uh, he didn't quite get always in

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Speaker 1: the end zone, but he definitely made a lot of

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Speaker 1: big plays. A really like a crazy game that's like

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Speaker 1: a legit video game stat that he's throwing up against.

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Speaker 1: You know, a pretty good Dallas Cowboys football team. Dallas

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Speaker 1: was pretty good they. I mean, they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys. Romo was fun to watch Man, he was

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Speaker 1: fun to watch Witten to see the drama on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines with Dez Bryant. Dez Bryant was like, he's like

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Speaker 1: a girl who's amazing in bed, but she will scream

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Speaker 1: at you in the one train, you know, and people

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Speaker 1: are looking at you and you're like, why are you

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Speaker 1: with her? And you're like, there's a reason she hasn't

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Speaker 1: been released. Let me, let me explain his dynamite at

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Speaker 1: one thing that and you know, as a receiver, we

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Speaker 1: all got a little diva hoes and we're not go you.

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Speaker 1: I definitely we all do. We all do, but not

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Speaker 1: at that level. Not at that level. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got to keep that under control. And that's honestly

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Speaker 1: the reason the Cowboys haven't won a Super Bowl since

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Speaker 1: my co host, Mike Leervin, the playmaker was playing on

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Speaker 1: the team. So you know, it'll be fun to get

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Speaker 1: into that, get Calvin's perspective of being a complete polar

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Speaker 1: opposite type of receiver. Yes, a superstar receiver like Des Bryant,

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Speaker 1: if not like one of the best of all time

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Speaker 1: I mean he was Optimus Prime out there, literally Megatron.

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Speaker 1: He was a Transformer. He looked like like I say

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Speaker 1: it for Gronk all the time. He looked like like

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Speaker 1: a freshman high school kid playing against like third graders

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Speaker 1: with how how much doller he was and all these defenders,

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Speaker 1: how how he could just run by people. He can

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Speaker 1: make the catch in traffic, he could moss you jump

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Speaker 1: over you, didn't matter what kind of coverage it was.

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Speaker 1: If he was lined up there, he was never covered, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was unstoppable. It's just he unfortunately played for the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. You know it's it's it'll wear on a

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Speaker 1: guy to lose. Yeah, it'll wear on a guy. And

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Speaker 1: we've seen it here. You know, first thoughts you get

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Speaker 1: of when you when you see a game like this,

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Speaker 1: it's the Detroit Lions, and you instantly think of, man,

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Speaker 1: MEGATRONK could have had way longer career, even though he

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Speaker 1: got beat up and stuff. But like when when you're

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Speaker 1: not winning games, the motivation to go out there and

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Speaker 1: out the window. We saw it with Barry Sanders. You know,

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Speaker 1: you see these generational type players that play on franchises

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Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know that, Like, and I'm

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Speaker 1: should be like, look, I can't relate to losing because

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Speaker 1: a standard that we've always we've talked about on this show.

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Speaker 1: You know when when you go to Detroit. I mean

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Speaker 1: little annoyed the Lions are still playing on Thanksgiving. I

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Speaker 1: love it. It's tradition. It's tradition, but it's one of

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Speaker 1: those where were like, wouldn't you rather see a better team?

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Speaker 1: I Mean, you never know you're gonna you're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: we're gonna need that enthusiasm because, uh look, Detroit Pizza.

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Speaker 1: We've we've raved about it. Detroit is cool, the franchise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough it's a tough place to play,

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Speaker 1: but this is actually a freaking crazy game, great game.

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Speaker 1: I mean back and forth, the crazy amount of explosion

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush is on this team. Reggie Bush balls out

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on the sideline, but

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Speaker 1: What do you think when you see that, when you

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Speaker 1: like you're someone from such a you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: really see that on Patriots. Yeah, it's tough. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think that goes to coaching, honestly, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: And he's the type of player that's great enough to

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Speaker 1: that's not really what you want. That's gonna tell me

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Speaker 1: in late December early January to compete for a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl like distractions will literally bury your team, and you

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Speaker 1: Patriots can get away with it exactly. And that's and

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Speaker 1: that's the truth. So I don't you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan to Dez Bryant, and I guarantee

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Speaker 1: could still probably play. Yeah, I bet we'd get a

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Speaker 1: anything for just like how he played. You know. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to October twenty seventh, twenty thirteen. On

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Speaker 1: this day, twenty thirteen, the number one movie in America

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Speaker 1: was Jackass Presents Bad Grandpa. Did you ever see that?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? Was it? That was the Johnny

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Speaker 1: Knoxville one where he was the grandpa? Wasn't was it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: they have a Daniro movie called Bad Grandpa Too. I

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Speaker 1: believe de Niro was Dirty Grandpa zach Efron. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: recently though, like probably Likee's last three years with de Niro. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dirty Grandpa was twenty sixteen. That was. That's a DeNiro

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Speaker 1: Brett Favan Wranglers for like twenty two years whatever. You know.

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Speaker 1: this money grabs, money grabs de Niro too. I mean

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Speaker 1: long enough to make little fockers. Let's be real, right,

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Speaker 1: I love the Fokker movies. I love the first one.

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Speaker 1: Meet the First Meet the Parents is incredible. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: when you finger her work the clip and you're like,

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Speaker 1: imagine it just being a young guy having yeah, terrible

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Speaker 1: Harlem Shake was Harlem Shake was popping. I love but

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Speaker 1: this was the reincardinated Harlem Shake, right, because they had

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Speaker 1: mean that was probably when we were younger in high school.

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Speaker 1: And then they had the Harlem Shake like video thing

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Speaker 1: with like the heat you know, remember lebron And and

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Speaker 1: Birdman they were doing in the locker room. Hilarious. It

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Speaker 1: like that in the locker room. We weren't allowed to,

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Speaker 1: pitching that to Belichick? Like, Bill please, it's from my stories,

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Speaker 1: It's from my Instagram stories. Look, this is fucking Fox, bro, Like,

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Speaker 1: this is in fucking Hollywood. Get the fuck out of

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Speaker 1: here with that snap face bullshit he calls calls he

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Speaker 1: me like Belichick even more. That's amazing. And he always

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck is is like I

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Speaker 1: have no clue, but like the snapface this that you

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Speaker 1: you always say. This is when Michael Douglas got throat

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Speaker 1: cancer and blamed it on Catherine Zata Jones. Remember I

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Speaker 1: thought he said he he gave too much congolinus. What

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Speaker 1: whether they were winning or losing. Like, the guy could

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00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: just turn it on and off. And he saw it

422
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: in this game for sure. You saw that in this game,

423
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: and you saw it with La Rams this past year

424
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. There were times where people like, oh,

425
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, he's not gonna be able to do it.

426
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: He's not there, and what do you do? He let

427
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: his team down two minute drives all the time, and

428
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,479
Speaker 1: he learned how to do that in these early years

429
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: in Detroit, going through tough defenses in that on that

430
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: road to the super Bowl too. Definitely, yeah, Niners, I

431
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: mean that that that was a great defense. I mean

432
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: those guys the Bucks, Yeah, I mean when they need

433
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: a crucial play, he made them. Yeah, no doubt, no,

434
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna con sue. Do you think he's a dirty player.

435
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean I don't, Yeah, probably, What do you think.

436
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: I can't read minds, but I can read mannerisms, and

437
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: there's been a few of those things where you're like,

438
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: holy fuck, I don't know. That's probably not allowed uh

439
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: in uh, medieval fucking gridiron type ship, you know what

440
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean. That ain't allowing the arena back in the

441
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: Greek days. Yeah, but uh, he's always a good player.

442
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: I think he grew up though. He's growing up. Yeah,

443
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: he's a stud. He's a kype of guy you want

444
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: on your team. Though. At this time of his career too,

445
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: he was a fucking monster. A lot of talent on

446
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: this Lions team. I mean they were a decent football team.

447
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: They just they fell apart. They fell apart. You excuse me.

448
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: That was not quiet sneeze. I like to hold him in,

449
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: gives you like a little head high. It's weird. Are

450
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: you doing whippets off your sneeze? I do? I do?

451
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: It's like what? And did you know? I don't want

452
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: to you know, I don't want to spread germs. I

453
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: try to. I try to put them back into my

454
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: body and let my body defend the germs. Respect. Now

455
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: let's get to the Dallas Cowboy. Yeah, they were four

456
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: and three entering this game, figuring themselves out finished eight

457
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: and eight. Coach by Jason Garrett, missed the playoffs for

458
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: the fourth straight year. I mean crazy Tony Romo's eighth

459
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: year as a starter in Dallas. Des Bryant caught ninety

460
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: three passes in twenty thirteen, which is a career high,

461
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: even though we saw there was definitely some friction on

462
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: sidelines at times with him, and it seemed like probably

463
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: thirty percent of the team. So yeah, he's like Amber heard.

464
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure the sex was great, but he's

465
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: a lot. So they had Pro bowlers. Des Bryant defensive

466
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: tackled Jason Hatcher running back to Marco Murray. Yeah, wow,

467
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: he was a beast. Yeah, left tackle Tyron Smith and

468
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: the Jason Winton tight end leader guy great one of

469
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean so many years of the Giants fan just

470
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: watching him run all over us. A great player, He's

471
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: a consummate pro. And you saw in a lot of

472
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: these clips of this game. Hey, he's always trying to,

473
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, settle everything down. Sure, you know, and it

474
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: takes more than just one guy. You know, a leader.

475
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: You know that. I think that you know that that

476
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: has a lot to do. There's a lot more that

477
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: that picture. You know that Macro. I don't know how

478
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: to explain this, but is it going the right way? Yeah?

479
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: I think so. You know, I'm using my hands right now,

480
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: and I know watch podcasts. But twenty thirteen narrative for

481
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: these Cowboys. Romo signs a six year, one hundred and

482
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: eight million dollar contract coming off an eight and eight season.

483
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: Clearly he was the guy of the future. Hadn't made

484
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs in three season. They were the team looking

485
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: to get over the hump. They were always close, especially

486
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: in that AFC East. There's always those teams. They're beating

487
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: each other up each and every year. Romo took a

488
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: beat most of the season he had a bunch of injuries.

489
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: He started hurting his back. Are they still America's team

490
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: at this point the Cowboys, Yeah, I mean statistically and

491
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: off of winning, probably not. No, they're not. You know,

492
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: the parody of the league right now is really good.

493
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: But when you see in person how they travel their fans.

494
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of people that love the

495
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Oh yeah, a huge stadium. It's a huge stadium,

496
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: but like everywhere, like in the country. I remember they

497
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: came and played us. I think it was this year,

498
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: or it could have been two thousand, it was twenty nineteen,

499
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: one of these years we went out there. Whatever. They

500
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: came to Foxboro and they had like probably thirty percent

501
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: of our stadium, and no one comes into Foxboro getting

502
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: any of our passes, usually our tickets. It was gnarly.

503
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: Remember hearing like you could hear cowboy chants. Was a

504
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: lot of dudes our age who are Cowboys fans because

505
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: of the nineties Cowboys, because of Emmett, because of Troy,

506
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: because of Irvin and Dion. I mean, there's a lot

507
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: of dudes our age who are like, well, I just

508
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys because they won all the time. Yeah,

509
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: and then you get a lot of the old timers

510
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: with the seventies. You know, of course the seventies Cowboys

511
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: was Stallbach and and and you know, uh what was

512
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: the running he just Tony dor said, and and I

513
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: mean the countless players that they had. Gee's brain fart there.

514
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: He was a stud. Yeah. But yeah, the Cowboys, they've

515
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: had a lot of tradition of winning. It's kind of

516
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: like we need to start seeing it here in the

517
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: modern day here soon. You know, they got to get

518
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: something going. They got to make changes in there, or

519
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: they got to do something. Yeah, I don't know what

520
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: it is, but Cowboys being good and Cowboys doing I mean,

521
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: the league needs that they do. The league, the Giant,

522
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: the Giants need to be good. I'm with you, man.

523
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: We needed New York team to be good for sure.

524
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: The Rangers, the Rangers, the Yankees, they're looking all right,

525
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: We're on the up and up. I know, we'll see.

526
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: It's early, it's early. So all right, this is this game.

527
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: This is a Week eight matchup between four and three teams.

528
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: As we said, Calvin Johnson was in the middle of

529
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: a historic run at wide receiver six Pro Bowls in

530
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: a row, I mean insane. I don't know what that

531
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: feels like, all right, I think so well, you know

532
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: what super bowls feel like. Yeah, we'll see if he'd

533
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: want to switch places with you, because I don't know,

534
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: because I think you know you've said it before. You

535
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade these Super Bowls for anything, right, No, So

536
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: that's you know, things we remember, ring things. Bro. Calvin

537
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Johnson Kelvin john said, three hundred and twenty nine yards

538
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: in this game, which is as you said, video game shits.

539
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Was this NFL blitz? I mean, Jesus Christ, great game.

540
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he was getting stopped on the one

541
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: yard line, but he was making like these crazy catches,

542
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: bow routes, deep posts, and then they played way off

543
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: of me. He get these soft, like thirty yard chunk plays,

544
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: catching runs, incredible play, like he could do it all.

545
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: And that's what you saw year in and year out.

546
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: But what he also saw in these games man like

547
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: he's so damn big. These dudes they threw to him

548
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: so much. He caught fourteen balls. These guys are tattooing them.

549
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: There's so much surface area to hit, and he's playing

550
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: hurt already. As we know, he's always hurt. His back

551
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: is messed up, right, he was, he was a little

552
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: banged up. I don't know it was Jack. Was he

553
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: banged up in this game? I don't know. Said he

554
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: has been struggling with backstuff since he was young. Probably,

555
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're that big and like you're your

556
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: energy output is just like it's it's fucking crazy, like

557
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: the human body's not supposed to do what he's probably done. Yeah,

558
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then when things we

559
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: may have forgotten, I mean, we forgot des Bryant's one

560
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: handed TD catch, which was fucking amazing over there in

561
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: the red area. Yeah you know that got probably outshined

562
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: by how he acted on the sideline. Yeah, you know,

563
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: and because it was in a losing fashion. I used

564
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: to say all the time, you know, in big, big

565
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: games that like you know, a player looking at me, like, oh,

566
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: you know we're doing good here. Well, no one's gonna

567
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: remember shit if we lose the game, right, you know,

568
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna remember the dumb shit, the bad shit. So like,

569
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: let's go out and win this fucking game and then

570
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it for sure. Come back in the

571
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: last minute, you know. Vintage Matthew Stafford playing gutsy at

572
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: the end of a game, doing an improv play fake clock,

573
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: jump over the pile, score, touchdown, win, game like, pretty cool.

574
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: It was a fucking It was a pretty exciting game,

575
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: young Matthew Stafford with a just as you said, short

576
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: memory mature. Pretty cool, which brings us Sam to the

577
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:08,680
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578
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,160
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580
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581
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582
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583
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Speaker 1: Maybe not. Maybe we don't keep you guessing. I don't

584
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: going to keep you guessing. Who knows? It's up to

585
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: you if we like you. We don't know yet, do we?

586
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: We don't know. I don't so how many The prop

587
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: bet with Calvin is how many compliments can you give

588
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: to Detroit? I'm telling you, I fucking love Detroit. I

589
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: like Detroit, and you love Detroit. I love Detroit because

590
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I went there in like two thousand and seven for

591
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: like MAC Media Day. We went to like what do

592
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: they have Greek Town some some casino is like my

593
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: first time going to a casino in Detroit. Then we

594
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: went to like the MGM or something, met up some

595
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: other guys. Larry Larry English on Northern Illinois was there.

596
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: He was a first round pick, and we've always talked

597
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: about just the fun stories we had in Detroit, and

598
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: like we went there and stayed in Detroit and practiced

599
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: training camp out there like a few years back. And

600
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: we went to like the four Museum, which is like

601
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: one of the biggest square foot museums indoor under a

602
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: roof or something. They had everything from like all the

603
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: president assassinated cars that presidents were assassinated, and they had

604
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: the Rosa Parks bus. They had like the bench that

605
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: fucking like I think like Abraham Lincoln like sat in

606
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: or they had the chair that he got shot at.

607
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: Like they had so many crazy fucking things, which as

608
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: a kid, like you hear about and learn about this

609
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: stuff and you're like, oh, that's cool, but like when

610
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: you get older, you start to appreciate stuff. So I

611
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: experienced that. The pizza, as we talked about, phenomenal I

612
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: mean we've already this is how many compliments do we have? Uh? Yeah,

613
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: how many compliments? Also, I should say that you did

614
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: tarry a c Allen Detroit. So it's fucking terrible field. Okay, okay,

615
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: so is that a negative one for the compliments? All right?

616
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: You know what, like I will I fuck with Detroit.

617
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: But the plane surface, yeah, you know, I was gonna sue.

618
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna sue. How how are we a professional?

619
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: It's a multi billion dollar company and we got a

620
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: fucking sticky surface. Would be a bad look for people, though,

621
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: if you if you were the only wide receiver to sue, Yeah,

622
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: probably bad, Yes, it would. I mean, I'm not saying

623
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have done it. I I and I just

624
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: say that because that's you know, you get emotional after

625
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: something like that in a fucking preseason game. It was

626
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: actually the trip I went to the fore Museum actually

627
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: got to meet Missus Ford two. That was a huge

628
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: That was crazy, you know, being mechanics Sun and meeting

629
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, one of the cornerstones of the automotive world. Amazing.

630
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, the fucking field, I don't think it was safe. Well,

631
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: and that's where Calvin had to play. Yeah, and I

632
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: would retire too. I would have retired after fucking two

633
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: years in that place. Detroit Lions figure it out, guys.

634
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: But the people in Detroit as fun people are cool.

635
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: I've played them many times in comic. I love the

636
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: people in Detroit. And one other thing, you know, tip

637
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: the tip of the cap to Detroit. You drive on

638
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: those those streets, you drive on the freeways, all you

639
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: see is American made cars. Respect. I had grown up

640
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: in California. I've never seen that in my life. Yeah,

641
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I was like, what, wait a minute, There's no Honda's,

642
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: no Toyo. It's like Ford, GM, Chrysler, Jeep, and that's it.

643
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why I saw my dad's a So

644
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: I always see that kind of shit, you know what

645
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean. I can't drive, really, so I respect anyone

646
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: who can drive. Well. You can't catch either. Because I

647
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: threw you the bathroom keys, I don't think we'd bring

648
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: that up on air. Let me tell you something I

649
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: felt terrible. Julian tosses me the bathroom key. It's a

650
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: weird shape, it's disc like I fumbled it. I thought

651
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: about diving it like you and the super Bowl. But

652
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: that would have looked weird to die for. We got

653
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: a camera, we gotta yelled at what if I caused

654
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: this like twenty grand diving for a bathroom? Ky? Would

655
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: if you made the catch? I think it'd be worth it.

656
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna live this down. This is like Julian

657
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: told a story on this dropping a pass from Tom

658
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Brady early on. So it gives me hope that I

659
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: can regain Julian's respect. That's a terrible past that come on.

660
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be on your toes over here. Hey,

661
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: just can't say that's Brady. I don't know, man, I've

662
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: never said that to you. You can never blame the quarterback.

663
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 1: Did it touch you? It touched over here? But touch

664
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: it skimmed my jacket? All right? We got a skimmer fuck?

665
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: All right, enough of these antics. Let's get Calvin Johnson

666
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: on this. But before then, let's take a quick break. Jackie.

667
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: We got something. Yeah, what do we what do we

668
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: want to set this prop bet number at? I'm going five? Yeah,

669
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: we gotta set this prop back for four and a half. Yeah, alright,

670
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: four and a half. All right, let's let's hear from

671
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson. But before that, let's take a quick break. Calvin,

672
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: what's happening. How you doing, ju? I'm doing good man.

673
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing great man? Thanks for having

674
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: me on. Dude, I just got a little I just

675
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: got a little nervous when I was hey, when I

676
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: started going, when I started bawling, he was like already

677
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: the guy forever, like the best. Appreciate it all right,

678
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: Welcome Calvin Johnson to games with names presented by win Bet.

679
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Now this is a special tree. Okay, we got we

680
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: got a guy that caught, not a guy, a goat

681
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: that caught three seven hundred and thirty one receptions, eleven

682
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards eighty three tuds, six foot five, two hundred

683
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds, second overall pick behind JaMarcus Russell. Which

684
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: that was a complete bus. I bet you the Raiders

685
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: are probably saying we should have got him first. Spent

686
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: his entire career in the beautiful, the great. I love Detroit,

687
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: Rock City, Hall of Famer, six time pro bowler. You

688
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: throw it up, they call him fifty to fifty balls. No'

689
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: that's ninety ten balls to Calvin. Those are ninety ten balls.

690
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: Those are those halfway jump balls. They call him Megatron,

691
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Megatron Megatron, one of the coolest nicknames of all time. Megatron,

692
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, bro. Hear gready to be here, man,

693
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Man. Well we're over here.

694
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about the fakes over in twenty thirteen. You

695
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: just so happened to set a record on that game.

696
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: I know it's called the Fake Spike game. You just

697
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: so happened to go for fourteen three and twenty and

698
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: one touchdown, but you could have had like five. For

699
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: some reason, they kept getting you like in motion at

700
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: the three or at the one. You were like this

701
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: close to get have like a five touchdown game. Yeah, yeah,

702
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I got to talk about it one a couple of times.

703
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: How's retirement life treating you? Man? You know, been a

704
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: lot more busy than I thought i'd be, you know,

705
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: having your own business out here. You know, it's just

706
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: an everyday thing, you know, just dealing with your people,

707
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: your culture, and your numbers on a daily basis. You know,

708
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: it's should I meet more than I do now than

709
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: we did? I want to play ball, I know, it's crazy,

710
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost like you can say yes now.

711
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: You know, when you were playing it was like, I

712
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: can't do it. I got ball, I got you know,

713
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: not yet, I'm not now you now like they're like,

714
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: you're not playing, So what else do you want to?

715
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it's it's it's a

716
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: crazy dynamic. Roy Williams, he's one who nicknamed came up

717
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: with Megatron. Like, what do you think of this nickname?

718
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: It's probably one of the sweetest, craziest, dopest nicknames that

719
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I I parlayed off a little nickname off of you know,

720
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: just but just the fact that it was the dopest nickname. Yeah,

721
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I have to say, man, it's it's one of the

722
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: coldest ones out there. Man, when you know when it happened,

723
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: it didn't catch on in two thousand and seven, that's

724
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: when Roy gave me the nickname, and it didn't really

725
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: catch on until two thousand and eight, really when I

726
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: really had a pretty good year of my second year

727
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: in the league. But the name Megatron, Yeah, it's just

728
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: I can't really say what other name? Give me another

729
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: name out there, Megan, I mean, what other nickname? Give

730
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: me some more nicknames and sports that are like just

731
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: that's good, I mean, that's dope. Yeah, Kobe and Black Mom,

732
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: but we had Paul Pierson here. The truth is a good,

733
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: truth is dope, Alan. The answer Iverson is pretty damn

734
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: answer love a. I Yeah, you know Tom Brady the goat. Yeah,

735
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: the goat. So I got to ask you this, Calvin.

736
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: Have you heard this that Julian during one of his

737
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: breakout seasons was referred to as mini Tron. You know

738
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: what prior to Julian just saying that before, I've heard

739
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: that before. You know you you were an animal out

740
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: there and I appreciated the workoutic more than anything. But

741
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: then you out there making place for the goat. Man,

742
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: that was dope. Man. So I commend you, bro, because

743
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: that was you. I watched you, I saw you out there.

744
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: You can't help, but you're in freaking you have there

745
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: playing with the goat. But man, you did your thing

746
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: up there. Excuse my language, No, it's you can. You're

747
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: a Detroit guy. If you don't say fuck at least

748
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: one time, you lose money. So how good is the

749
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: pizza in Detroit? Man? It's so many options. You know.

750
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: One of my business partners, I feel like he eats

751
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: pieces like five days a week just because he has

752
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: so many options, but yeah, we have great pieces of it.

753
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't even touch all the national

754
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: change because we have so many local spots that just

755
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: do a great job. It's it's unbelievable, great restaurants. It's

756
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: coming from Calvin himself. Michigan, I'm telling you, man, Michigan

757
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: has everything, dude. You can do in summertime, you got beaches.

758
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: In the wintertime, you snowboard, and there's everything else in between,

759
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: voting everything, beautiful vacation area. Are you still in Detroit

760
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: right now? I love Michigan. You know I'm not in Detroit.

761
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm just outside of Detroit. But yeah, I mean Detroit, Michigan.

762
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: Is this home for me? Now? I thought one of

763
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: the dopest things about Calvin Johnson was when he was

764
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: in college he rocked twenty two as a receiver to

765
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: rock twenty two. Like, that's so fucking dope. Think of

766
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: like Emma Smith. You don't think of a wide receiver, right,

767
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: it's twenty one, it's twenty one. I play twenty one

768
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah yeah, but uh, the fact that he

769
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: wore that it was because it was a triple option, right,

770
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: you guys ran the triple option and then they would

771
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: just throw it. That's what everybody thinks. Like when I

772
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: was there, I had Chang Gaily as my head coach,

773
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: so like two years after I left, it was Paul Johnson.

774
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: He was the one guy that brought the triple option

775
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: from Navy. And Damarius Thomas. I guess he was the

776
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: one that was lighted in that offense because you know,

777
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: every time it was third down, everybody knew who the

778
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: ball was going to. But you couldn't stop it, do

779
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: it DT and you just couldn't do nothing about it.

780
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: But I was fortunate to have Chang Gaily. He had

781
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: a PA, had a pro style offense. Yeah, he coached

782
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: eight man and those guys out in Dallas back in

783
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: the day. Dude, that's a low key receiver. You Georgia Tech.

784
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: That's insane. Marus Thomas, Calvin Johnson, you guys had a

785
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: couple others. No, yeah, we had a couple others. Shoot Jason.

786
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: It was Jason's last night. He went to New York. Uh,

787
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: he went to the Jets. I think Waller, the tight

788
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: end out on which you call it raiders, came out

789
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: of there too. But I can't say I can't. I

790
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: can't claim warp Suv Yew anymore after they kind of

791
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: blew up the program with the triple option. I know,

792
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: I know what was What was it like playing with

793
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: a gunslinger like Stafford? You guys had really good chemistry.

794
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: It was dope, man, to have somebody that can put

795
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: the ball anywhere on the field at anytime. You know,

796
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: Stafford was that guy as we saw this year. You know,

797
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: the great thing about what he did, man, was the

798
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: fact that we all knew, you know, as teammates, you know,

799
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: people in Detroit, we knew he could do that. But

800
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: it's just really just putting all the pieces around. And

801
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: then that's what you know, La did. They They fully

802
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: invested in their team. They had a great defense, and

803
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: they were missing that one piece at quarterback, and they

804
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: went and got it and we see where it took them. Yeah,

805
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree completely with with you. I remember

806
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: Stafford would go out to Long Beach and he would

807
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: throw at the Tom House and Adam over at that

808
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: little camp and I threw with him time. And I've

809
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: gone out there and throw with a bunch of quarterbacks

810
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes they're timings off or they miss

811
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: you on a deep ball that they can't track you,

812
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: they don't know your speed. They get all weird out

813
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: of in and out of cuts, you know, like me

814
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford went like forty four for forty four,

815
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: never met him, never did anything. Does it feel like

816
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: you're cheating on Tom when you do that? It actually does?

817
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: It does. And then he asked me to go have

818
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: beers with them, Like, oh, that's the cool thing about

819
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. He kissed your neck and like, what hell?

820
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: This team? Also? Hey, Reggie bush Lok, Reggie was balling

821
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: this year. You guys had a pretty good team. We

822
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: had a great team. We had a squat man. We

823
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: just just couldn't put it together. I mean, we think

824
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: that we're going to playoffs that year? No, not that.

825
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: What year was that? Twenty thirteen? Yeah? Yeah, man, you

826
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: started pretty high. I think you were five start high,

827
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: and then we fell off. I guess, yeah, yeah it

828
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: should have. We had some pieces there, just not all

829
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: of them. Was that frustrated? I mean, you're such a

830
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: great wide receiver. Was it frustrated to not be part

831
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: of a culture that that put it together for you guys?

832
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: You know, the funny thing is that you know, when

833
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: you're there and the time that I was there in Detroit,

834
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: you don't know what you do. Well, you know what

835
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: you have, but you don't know what you don't have,

836
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: And you know, until you go to another team or

837
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: until some other guys come from other teams and they're

838
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: like why is this this way and why is this

839
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: that way? I'm just like, well, this is all I know.

840
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: What's an example. And I have to say like when

841
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: I when I retired, I was able to go to

842
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: visit some of my other coaches that or other other

843
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: teams and you know, just trying to impart some wisdom

844
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: on the receiver groups, and you know, you just see

845
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: the different the differences in the programs and how they

846
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: maybe take care of the players, or the things that

847
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: maybe administration and management might do for their players, you know,

848
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: to affect them, you know, with their business careers after

849
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: the game, you know, you might those are just things

850
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: that were just like, wow, I didn't know that this

851
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: was done in other places because we didn't get that

852
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Yeah, well I'm I got the complete different,

853
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: opposite perspective that I'm sorry to have to figure it out.

854
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: It's all good I'm happy for you. It's all good. No,

855
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's true. But it's also like

856
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: you don't know, like I don't. I don't know how

857
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: it is at other places. When you play all your

858
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: career at one place and you know it's it's it,

859
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, you get kind of like an institutionalized almost

860
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't. It's kind of hard to say, but you're like, hey,

861
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: well this is how I get it. I guess I

862
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Let's get into this game. So,

863
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: first drive or you hit the dart route? Was that

864
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: a dart route of called plass where you go for

865
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: like eighty seven? Oh okay, yeah, that was just a slant,

866
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, laying out with it. Was it a built

867
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: in slant with a run play called? Yeah, it was not.

868
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: I believe that was. That might have been a kill call.

869
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: It could have been a it could have been a

870
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: run play action, not play action, but a run and

871
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: play option there. I remember if we had the one

872
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: on the one high look with the with the single covers,

873
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go or he's gonna come to me with

874
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: the slant. It's just automatic, you know, and it's press coverage.

875
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: That's what we like, you know, and slants. I love it.

876
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: And with Brandon though, Brandon like to play a little

877
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: leveraged inside, so it makes a little bit harder, you know.

878
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: Either I have to get his shoulders turned, and with Brandon,

879
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: I really have to push him down and feel like

880
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: almost ten yards to get his shoulders turned because he's aggressive,

881
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: but he plays a little catch technique, so I have

882
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: to really get a run in. But I don't have

883
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: the time to push down field, you know, seven eight

884
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: yards to get his shoulders turned. So with Brandon, I

885
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: just wanted to get a little uses the residence against

886
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: against him, get into his shoulders and just use my

887
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: shoulder pass to bounce off of him and at contact

888
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: and at the point of contact, you know, be ready

889
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: to sit that foot in the ground and separate. And

890
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: basically what's exactly what happened and that and that's what separated. Calvin, Like,

891
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: what do I call you? We don't really know each other,

892
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: is it Calvin? Do you call you Magatron? Do I

893
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: call you? I'm not making sure A lot of people

894
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: really know my name, and they just talking me megatron

895
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: that all the time. But Calvin's cool, all right, Maybe

896
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: cal Megatron is better than like Chief for bubb though,

897
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: if you forget someone's name, that's at least a cool place.

898
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean you're balling out already. Do you

899
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: do you know when it's going to be a hot

900
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: game for you? Do you just feel like, oh, they

901
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: can't hold me? Do you just know this day? Yeah?

902
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: When I went for that one, I was like, Okay,

903
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: this is this is easy two hundred yard game. I

904
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: don't have to do much to get two hundred. I

905
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about going for three of that because I

906
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: haven't done three before, but two hundred. I had a

907
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: couple of those, and I was like, yeah, this is

908
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: the two hundred yard game. And you and you say

909
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: something to Matt like they can't hold me something like that.

910
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: Now when when Matt no, it's just like a feeling

911
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: when Matt's hit him and we're hot and we're going

912
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: like one for one, two for two, then it's just

913
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: that kind of day that Okay, we're he just going

914
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: to keep feeding me until he can't. And the crazy

915
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: thing is, which which makes it outrageous to me, You

916
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: guys turn the ball over? What you guys turn the

917
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: ball over? A bunch four times. Yeah, it was the

918
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: first time, Like it was like one of like thirty

919
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: two times that it's ever happened that a team with

920
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: four turnovers won a game. And it's because of pretty

921
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: much you You able to go out and get all

922
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: these explosion plays like to keep this, keep the game close.

923
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Like when you're when you're balling out like that and

924
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: you feel this, what are you thinking? You are you

925
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: going to Matt in the huddle just saying like if

926
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: they're off, hit me. If they're not, let me hit

927
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: me on that bow route. If it's too high, just

928
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: put it high. I can't get it, No one can

929
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: get it. Like you guys are just an emotion. It's

930
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: just you know, a lot of our routes have like

931
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: whether it's the conversions or a lot of routes on

932
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: one or just have they have covers beaters, so with

933
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: two different coverages, there's always an option, you know. And

934
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: that's the kind of a situation that the coach had

935
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: to put me in. Just give me a lot of

936
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: options on my routes. And because every time, I mean

937
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: every game we play, I'm always either I'm in a triangle,

938
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: I got double coverage, too high, the whole game. Two man,

939
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: the whole game. They have to find options for me

940
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, have variances in my rocks.

941
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: And then really at that point, it's just myself and

942
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: Matthew practicing this and during the week, and you know,

943
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: for me, you know all that stuff that happened during

944
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: the on game base, all those things happened during the week.

945
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, all those plass plays. I had to get

946
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: those reps. I know that those were going to be

947
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: the play as called. And I wasn't satisfied during the

948
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: week unless I got had a good rep at least

949
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: probably a couple of times at all those plays. So yeah, well,

950
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: in this last minute drive, you're down thirty to twenty four,

951
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Stafford hits you for seventeen, Stafford hits you for twenty two,

952
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: You get down to the one yard line. Are you

953
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: expecting is this a play? This fake spike tried a

954
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: bunch of times. Are you expecting him to do it?

955
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: That was just Matthew, man. I think Matthew might have

956
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: done that one other time I noticed in his career.

957
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: I think he did it. Maybe it was a rookie

958
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: year or something similar. But yeah, nobody that was not

959
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: a you know, I don't know coach could have told

960
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: him to do it on on the thing on on

961
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: on the overhead, but I doubt it. That might have

962
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: just been that could have just been all Matthew. I know,

963
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: you know. I never sat back and asked Matthew, like, hey,

964
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: did somebody tell you do that? Because it was just

965
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: I guess we're just so overtaken in the moment. We

966
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: just came back and and we we just never had

967
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: that conversation. But I was over there tired as crap.

968
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: I was a little bit concussed because I just got

969
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: my bell wrong on the one I'm just over there

970
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: just I just not even had my foot on that

971
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: on that yard on the on the one yard line,

972
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: so I'm one size and uh and Matthew's gonna spike

973
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: it and then then Reggie gonna come out here and

974
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: pound it in or they're gonna throw me a fade,

975
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: you know. So uh, you know, I did not expect it.

976
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: And it was a great Oh, it was a great

977
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: way to end the game. I don't even remember how

978
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: much time was left on the clocket during that moment. Yeah,

979
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: I think you had a couple of seconds. I think

980
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: you had a kick like a little kickoff maybe and

981
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: kind of ended or something. I don't think it was

982
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: a walk off, but it was close. Yeah. Out you know,

983
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: another premier receiver on the other side, Dallas Cowboys, Dez Bryant.

984
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: You guys are kind of like probably a little opposite.

985
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: But did you see or did you guys know or

986
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: hear did you ever like look at the matchups whenever

987
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: you're playing at a ball or receiver. Of course, of

988
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: course couldn't help it, man, because I felt like every

989
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: week we're playing against I mean, every team has has

990
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: their has their stet of receiver, you know. So I

991
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: mean my division, you had the Green Bays, you know,

992
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: so you had you know, yeah, you had Greg Jennings.

993
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: You had Donald Driver. At the beginning, you had Jordan Nelson,

994
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: we had uh, you know, the Vikings. You know, Greg

995
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: went over there as well. Trying to think who else

996
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: about Vikings had at the beginning, I forget who they

997
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: had at the beginning. The Bears had Brandon Marshall. So

998
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: there's always some top tier talent that was on the

999
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: other side of the field that you know, you always

1000
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: want to compete. Yeah, you're competing against the defense, but

1001
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: at the same time, you definitely want to have a better,

1002
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: better game than that on the other side too. Could

1003
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: you sense the frustration on the other sideline from Dez

1004
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: or anything like that, Like you could always peep over there.

1005
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: You ever said that that that uh Dallas game man,

1006
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: because there was some stuff said in the paper before

1007
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: the game that kind of you know, I don't let

1008
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: this bother me at all, But I mean when the

1009
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: people just talking reckless, like uh, wonder Ryan Brothers, Uh,

1010
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: I think he's a decordinator at the time. I think

1011
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: Daz is over there talking reckless. You know, there's a

1012
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: little give you a little more edge, a little bit more,

1013
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more juice, you know, go out there

1014
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: and really want to you know, you know, you know,

1015
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: flick some damage on the other team. And I think

1016
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: it was funny just seeing because we were able to

1017
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: literally see uh days on the other side. You know,

1018
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: his little pissed off is going through it over there.

1019
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Oh Dez and Jason Whitten looked like Johnny Depp and

1020
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: Amber heard and you guys are having a great time

1021
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: on your side, you know, I mean, it was it

1022
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: was crazy. What was it like seeing Stafford get the

1023
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: ring with the Rams. Are you guys still close? Yeah? Man.

1024
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I talked to Matthew during the season. It's funny. I

1025
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: had talked to him right before they hit that little

1026
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: lull in the middle of the season, and I was like, bro, man,

1027
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: like this is like, you got everything you need to

1028
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: win the championship. And you know, from that point on

1029
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: we talked a couple more times. I didn't really like

1030
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: to buy I didn't bother them too much during this

1031
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: playoff run, but I had to keep in contact with him,

1032
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: just like, hey, man, because like when they're going to

1033
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: that law, just you know, just encourage him. Y'all got

1034
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: everything you need on that team to win. Take it all.

1035
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: And for us, all his brothers back here in Detroit,

1036
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: all his old teammates, I can't I'm pretty sure everybody's

1037
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: suit was a static that he was able to do it.

1038
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: And I think just in the fashion that he did

1039
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: in that first year, that they brought him out here

1040
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: to do exactly what they wanted him to do. So

1041
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty sweet. Matthew Stafford, Brett Favor,

1042
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: who's more gun slingery? Oh uh? Far? You know FARV

1043
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: get out that pocket part Farv like, you know, he

1044
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: liked to use his legs a lot. You know, that's

1045
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: one thing where like Matthew, Man, you use your legs

1046
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you might win. You wanted two more,

1047
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: but because Matthew is always gonna look downfield. But I

1048
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: was like Matthews, like, he's not the biggest, He's not

1049
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: going to use his legs just to use him. Brett

1050
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Fahr will break that pocket and definitely be ready to

1051
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: run down and feel a little bit more probably than

1052
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: matt But as far as the arm man, I can't say.

1053
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: I haven't seen. I mean, shoot, Aaron Rodgers is probably

1054
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: probably right there. I'd say Aaron Rodgers and Matthew were

1055
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: like kind of the same tear as far as firepower,

1056
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, but Matthew probably throws a little bit faster.

1057
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: I got the fingers to prove it. Wow, cheeze. How

1058
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: hard was it to walk away at thirty when you're

1059
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: still a great player, you're still a pro bowler? How

1060
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: difficult was that? It wasn't difficult cause I told myself

1061
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: at the beginning, and I had goals. I wanted to

1062
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: play ten you know, I wanted to have like ten

1063
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: thousand yards and we really just have a huge impact,

1064
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: you know. And I was able to do most of

1065
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: those things, stuff for play the ten. But at the

1066
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's about quality of life for

1067
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: me and for me just going out another year and

1068
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: having to put in all the work, it just wasn't

1069
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: really worth it, you know. And it wasn't not that

1070
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't worth it. I didn't feel like fighting through

1071
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: the pain to do what I had to do to

1072
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: get myself ready to go back and play a whole

1073
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: nother season. And you know, honestly, when I told Coach

1074
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: cal Well, that was the hardest thing trying to figure out.

1075
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell him that. The whole year I knew,

1076
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, I would tell drop a hints to my

1077
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: homies in the locker room, like, man, I'm gonna retire

1078
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: like Kobe did, because the same year that he had

1079
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: announced his I'm out here like Kobe. They ain't believe me,

1080
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: but I was coming. I was. I was straight, authentic

1081
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: and finally told the coach, you know, at the end

1082
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: of the season and I check out whatever you call them,

1083
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: exit physicals, and I told Coach cal Well and he

1084
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: asked me if I was sure, and he asked one

1085
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: time because you know he could see, you know, the

1086
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: weight lifted off the shoulders immediately. You know, it just

1087
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: felt like a free man almost. You know, I don't

1088
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: know if I don't know how to describe it. I

1089
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: was toub describe that feeling, you know, just to weight

1090
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: off the shoulders and now I'm free to do what

1091
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: I want to do. And I thought, you know, just

1092
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to just go sit down and do nothing

1093
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: for a while, to play involved. But that didn't last long.

1094
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: That lasts like two weeks. You know, we got we're

1095
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: so built off that just you know, we're we've lived

1096
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: structured lives for so long being athletes. Creature always, yes,

1097
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: exactly what creatures that happened? We're just looking for that

1098
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: next thing to do, next thing to accomplish. And so

1099
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: it didn't take me long to really put on the

1100
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: business hat and figure out what I really wanted to do.

1101
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Who's the Who's the dB that you think could play

1102
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: you the best? Or who did you respect the most?

1103
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: I love playing against Pat p. I was playing against

1104
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Pat Pat Peterson Arizona his rookie year, and I feel

1105
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: like I didn't don't understand why the heck why we

1106
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: played Arizona at Arizona for like every year for like

1107
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: it was like a five year stretch, Like We're going

1108
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: to Arizona, Arizona, Arizona. I'm like, damn, did he really

1109
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: just want to see this matchup? Because like I really

1110
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: don't want to play him because I hate playing to

1111
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: do it because he's a big guy. He's not I mean,

1112
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: he's to say big, he's like howl Is pat like

1113
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: six foot six to one as a corner. He's a

1114
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: big guy as far as he's long. He's powerful, and

1115
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: he's fast, you know, and that for me, Uh, he played,

1116
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: he varied his technique. You know, sometimes he'll be be

1117
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: up in your face jam. Sometimes he'll catch, sometimes he'll

1118
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: play off and uh, just for for me as a receiver,

1119
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: just giving me all the different just keeping me, you know,

1120
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: trying to keep me off my toes a little bit,

1121
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, give me thinking a little bit. That was

1122
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: probably that was that wasn't a bad thing. You know,

1123
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: he didn't just dig in and say I'm gonna play

1124
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: this way or that way. You know, he switched it

1125
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: up based off of all what I was doing with

1126
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: the situation was so just all around smart player, physical player,

1127
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I respect the hell out of his

1128
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: game because we had some good battles there. He wont

1129
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: some I want some how about white outs that you're

1130
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: liking in today's NFL. Man, You know, I don't want to.

1131
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Don't feel like anybody gets any shade because you don't

1132
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: mention everybody. But you know, I love right now. I

1133
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: love them kids from the boys who came out of LSU.

1134
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: The last you know, several years. We've got a man

1135
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: in UH Minnesota Jefferson, and then we have a man

1136
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and thew boys. I just love the way

1137
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: they catch the ball with their hands, the way they

1138
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: the way they run with the ball after, the way

1139
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: they run their routes. You know, I mean, I love,

1140
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: I love, I love it all. I love. I love

1141
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: everything about about their game. Guys, like you know, I

1142
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: always try to, you know, pick out guys that are

1143
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: like my size, to like d Ks of the world,

1144
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, knucklehead, trying to think who else out there.

1145
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I always like to see those guys in what they're doing,

1146
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: you know. So you know those big guys, I guess

1147
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: DK is probably having the most success. You know, I

1148
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: hate to see that he lost his quarterback last year, Russell.

1149
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: I thought that might have been a great fit for

1150
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: a little while. But yeah, who do y'all got? Who

1151
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: do you who? Who? Who do you got? I I

1152
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of jam Chase. Chase the Cincinnati

1153
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: is incredible. He's dude, his his his routes are explosive.

1154
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: He's fast, he's quick, he's sneakily big, He's about like

1155
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: a six to one, and he runs away from people

1156
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: like his yak is just it's insane, but like very

1157
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: much like you just you were so much bigger than everyone.

1158
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: He's doing it on every route. You know, he's going

1159
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: up mosson dude, he's getting the one on one he'd

1160
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: never get. I think he's getting They started, you know,

1161
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: putting that coverage safety over that too high over him.

1162
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: A lot more coming, you know, at the end of

1163
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: the season. But you know, when he got those one

1164
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: on ones, he would make people pay. And you know,

1165
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: I love them. I love. Another thing I love that

1166
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm seeing right now is a quarterback and the receiver

1167
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: combo from college. You know you're going to see a

1168
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: little bit of that, so that that chemistry. I mean,

1169
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: I expect those guys be dangerous for a while. And

1170
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: just the evolution of the receiver. These receivers are picking

1171
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: it up so much quicker now, and I think it

1172
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: has to the ability. I think it has to do

1173
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: with the fact that there's so much information out there now.

1174
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, hey, you could watch how your favorite receiver trains.

1175
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: He's on Instagram, he's doing a story, he's doing this.

1176
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: And when you're a little kid and you're sitting you

1177
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: practice every single thing, you know, little gym rats, guys

1178
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: that shoot her, you know what I mean. It's just

1179
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: the evolution. You're getting this information how to take care

1180
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: of your body and the games you know, a little

1181
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: safer now, and you know, it's just it's it's crazy

1182
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of young receivers. Jamar Chase prime example.

1183
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: Last year. I mean, this dude put up some crazy,

1184
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: crazy numbers, right, it doesn't seem like it's a rookie. Yeah,

1185
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: And that goes to your point with you know, having

1186
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: his college quarterback and Joe Burrow. That connection, that chemistry

1187
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: that goes a long way as well. But you're seeing

1188
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: that chemistry develop a lot sooner. I think because also

1189
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: at the college level, they're doing a lot. It's the

1190
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: games turning into the college game. So it's it's similar,

1191
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, type of offenses, spread shred this, you know

1192
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: what I mean one word terms, let's play fast match up.

1193
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about a lot of people when

1194
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: they go to college. They want to know, what is

1195
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: this this program going to be doing to help my

1196
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: son or the kid. What's gonna help me to do

1197
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: to get to the next level? You know, are you

1198
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: are you doing things that's gonna help them, that are

1199
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: going to help you translate to the next level, you know,

1200
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: run the triple option. It's not things that's gonna translate

1201
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: to the next level. But some of these programs, they're

1202
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: starting to evolve, like you say, in that way so

1203
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: that those kids can have had s sets at an

1204
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: earlier age because they're doing some of the same things. So, well,

1205
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: why don't you educate this new generation on primitive and

1206
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: why they should probably be looking into this to potentially

1207
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: get their athletic performance to the best possible factor make

1208
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: their body feel good. Vitamins, What is this? Yeah, yeah,

1209
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little background. Primitively, well, our name

1210
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: is primitive because we truly believe in plant medicines and

1211
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: we see, we know that plant medicines were the natural

1212
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: healers from the earliest of ages. People are using plant

1213
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: medics a long as time loans and long times ago.

1214
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: And for me personally, anything natural, any thing of this

1215
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: earth and going to my body. Really, I try to

1216
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: keep things that are not that are synthetic away because

1217
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: those things produce a lot of toxins, So that comes

1218
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: that goes the same from with my food too, how

1219
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: I mediicate myself and that's where plant medicines come come

1220
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: into play. And that's why we call our Princess primitive

1221
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: because this is a way of this is a primitive

1222
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 1: way of healing people that we're just trying to add

1223
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: innovation to to give people with new applications, and specifically

1224
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: in talking about cannabis and what we're doing in that space,

1225
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: we're going to be providing a new nano emotion and

1226
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: nano technology and cannabis is kind of new. You see

1227
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: it a little bit on the West Coast, but when

1228
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: it comes to cannabis, it just allows the user to

1229
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: have more bioavailability with the product that they're consuming, meaning

1230
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: that if you took it edible. Just for instance, you

1231
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: had an edible take the edible forty five minutes to

1232
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: an hour to really you know, take its effect. Whereas now, okay,

1233
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: whereas that nano edible is going to hit you within

1234
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: five to fifteen minutes. And why does it do that

1235
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: Because it's able to bypass the intestinal track and go

1236
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: straight into your bloodstream. And our visits, you know, we

1237
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: have some relationships with Harvard upn John Hopkins and they're

1238
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: part of this International Fio Medicine Institute, and what this

1239
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: is just a way of finding better healthcare practices around

1240
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: the world to kind of get rid of some of

1241
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: the disparities when it comes to the costs of healthcare.

1242
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: And so just to be a part of a platform

1243
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: like that, you're able to see what they are, how

1244
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: they're advancing plant medicine today and how they're already using

1245
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: what they're called drones, which is this nanotechnology. And they

1246
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: call them drones because they're able to go specifically where

1247
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to go. And that's because it's able to

1248
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: go through the in testament track and get right into

1249
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: the bloodstream and turn infecting the part of the body

1250
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: that we needed to, but more specifically when it comes

1251
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: to Primitive, we're coming out with a new product line

1252
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: called Performance and that's going to feature this nanotechnology that

1253
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're going to have an oral rehydration

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: solution with your vite you know, vitamin d's, but some

1255
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: of them will have TAC and there will be a

1256
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: CBD component as well, so that we can go straight

1257
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: to e commerce and provide us to those who are

1258
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: just looking to elevate their willness on a daily basis. Well,

1259
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: this sounds amazing. I've also heard of concure COVID, so

1260
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: get on it right now. It's no This stuff sounds awesome,

1261
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: so definitely check this out. That's really cool work you're doing. Yeah,

1262
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: thank you. When you start saying Nano, I don't know why,

1263
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: but it instantly put me in the mindset of Nano.

1264
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: What was it the pagachi or remember those little things

1265
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: that you used to play tamagotchi was I felt like

1266
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: there was like a Nano egg or a Nano. I

1267
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: don't know why. That's where my mind instantly goes. It's crazy,

1268
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: but this sounds amazing, dude. Man, it sounds like you

1269
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: got things going just like you did on the field.

1270
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: This was an unbelievable game. I remember this game back

1271
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, throwing on the box score after we

1272
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: played a game, seeing what the fuck three hundred and

1273
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards? What's going? Fourteen catches? I think I

1274
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: got that in like five six seven games. I mean,

1275
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: what's this guy doing? He must be on that primitive

1276
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: I love it. No, hey, it's great talking you, Calvin.

1277
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: Hey man, you're so insightful. I could tell by the

1278
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: way you talk about coverage, technique, catch that this guy

1279
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: wasn't just a freak, wasn't just a fucking just straight

1280
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: monster out there because of his size, speed, able to

1281
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: catch in traffic all that. It was because he studied

1282
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: the game. He loved the game. It was unfortunate that,

1283
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, the beautiful city of Detroit couldn't give you,

1284
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, what you you deserved because you're a generational type,

1285
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: talent type player on and off the field, and I

1286
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: looked nothing. I looked forward to seeing you succeed because

1287
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: this was the Lions. It wasn't the city of Detroit.

1288
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: It was the Lions. I love the city of Detroit.

1289
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: I know you, you really love it. My dad was

1290
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: a mechanic, right, My dad's a mechanic. That's why I'm

1291
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: wearing a Pontiac cat worked on American made cars. No,

1292
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: he's not from there, but Detroit is like a big

1293
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: part of you know, our lives because the mot you know,

1294
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: Motor City. He fixed America made cars. So I just Detroit, Man,

1295
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: Detroit is a good It's a great place, man. Yeah,

1296
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: they've revamped the city the last handful of years. It's

1297
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: a great place. Anything else, we forget about the fake

1298
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: Tuck game, any last things, The fake Spike game, the

1299
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: fake Spike game, man, Matthew, do you like we call it?

1300
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: We call it a different name. Oh Man, just putting

1301
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: twenty nine? Man three nine? Flippers and Flipper Anderson had

1302
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: more than three twenty nine. But it's only because they

1303
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: went in overtime, official time. Like that's the most an

1304
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: official time. You know, it's pretty dope. But Jamar Chase,

1305
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: my break into what he's playing out here got me

1306
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: out here nervous. You should have told him to mess

1307
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: the extra points. So you should have gone for four hundred,

1308
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: you know more than anyone. You gotta now, Jamar Chase,

1309
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: he had an unbelievable year. But those fucking coaches are

1310
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: scheming up things in his division. Everyone's gonna be looking, hey, this,

1311
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: we're gotta take this guy out. And that's what even

1312
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: makes it even better that Calvin Johnson still going in

1313
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: every year. Was just fucking a monster. Thank you, Bro

1314
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 1: for coming out good. You gotta send me some primitive.

1315
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: It's already having it, already having it good. I can't

1316
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: wait one of those nanograms in me already. We'll take

1317
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: care of both of y'all. Thanks for having me on

1318
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: you good. Thanks Bro, appreciate it well. I mean, he's

1319
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: a sweetheart, he's awesome. He did the Lions. He deserved

1320
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: more from them. I know he had an amazing career.

1321
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: I know he made a ton of money. I know

1322
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: he his stats are insane. I just wish he was

1323
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs more. I wish he was part of

1324
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: an organization that took better care of him. Yeah. I mean,

1325
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: when you get to know guys like that that literally

1326
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: did things the right way, worked his tail off. He

1327
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: was probably a guy that didn't say much in the facility,

1328
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: but showed a lot to younger football players through example

1329
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: of practicing hard performing. You know, each and every week

1330
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: at a consistently high, high, high level and not being

1331
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: a distraction. I mean you you root for those guys

1332
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: for sure. And also the way he kind of just said,

1333
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, you see how other organizations do things, and

1334
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: we know the types of organizations he's talking about. You

1335
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: played for one. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's always,

1336
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: it's always. You know, like when you got a guy

1337
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,440
Speaker 1: that's just an absolute monster and every like physical attribute

1338
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: you can have plus brains, like and he's not a dickhead. Yeah,

1339
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: like that's a goat. Yeah, those are those are guys like,

1340
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: and there's asshole goats, don't get me wrong, But like

1341
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: he's just a fucking cool ass dude that you root

1342
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: for for sure, you know. And he's got it looks

1343
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: like he's got his post life going crazy and you

1344
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: know what quality of life is something, and he probably

1345
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: is a great life. Yeah, I got yeah, I get that.

1346
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: You know, like he didn't have the motivation of going

1347
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: out and you know, hey, we're gonna go play and

1348
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: for a super Bowl this year, and they know they

1349
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: were planning golf trips, you know, after the Thanksgiving game

1350
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: that they had to play on you know, but that's

1351
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: That's that's football, man, It's crazy. What what How many

1352
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: times do we do we? How do we do that?

1353
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: On the prop? Bat Jack? Jack? Do we? How was

1354
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: our prop? Bet? Oh? You guys at home had the

1355
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: under We came in at four and we hit a five.

1356
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: We needed five? Damn, I thought I had it, Jack.

1357
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: Are you sure you threw one down at the end?

1358
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: For sure? But correct you? We needed four and a

1359
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: half came in at four, So I think a couple

1360
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: of those back to backers I may have blended into one.

1361
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't. It's a debatable. The count ended

1362
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: it for in my book, I'm sorry for all the

1363
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: overbidders out there. You know, Jack, he don't make the law,

1364
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: he just he just practices and forces it. It's like

1365
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: when of Hitler soldiers, little foot soldier. Yeah no we uh,

1366
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: I guess you hit the under man. I mean, but

1367
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: you look. No one could deny you do. Love Detroit.

1368
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: It's a cool spot, man. I enjoy I enjoyed Detroit.

1369
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: I fucking love kid Rock, I love eminem Yeah, you

1370
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: know Tim Allen, Chalaxy Quest was a classic Tim Allen.

1371
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: They're making a new Buzz Lightyear movie and he's not

1372
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: in it. He's not in it. No, it's Chris Evans.

1373
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: I like Chris. Chris is great. I like Chris. I

1374
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: like Chris Captain America. I know he's a Boston guy.

1375
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean Chris. No, we're a pretty friendly with each other. Yeah,

1376
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: not like that. What was that? I don't know, but

1377
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's still I grew up with. You know,

1378
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: Reddit's having a field day with this. Chris Evans and

1379
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman have had gay sex. We had socks on Okay,

1380
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm joking. So he had two playoff appearances. Calvin Johnson

1381
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty one total receptions. You heard the

1382
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: stats before, eighty three touchdowns, two playoff games. He should

1383
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: have and look, I mean those numbers for someone who

1384
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: retired at thirty are insane. Yeah, it is, but we've

1385
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: already gone over this. It's the motivation factor, the quality

1386
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: of life that is. I mean, I love Detroit, but

1387
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to play there. How hard is it to

1388
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: walk away from the game someone in your situation versus

1389
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: someone in his h I think it's I left every

1390
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds equal the same. He felt like

1391
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: he left everything on the field, and he chose that.

1392
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like I had nothing else to

1393
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: play for. He felt like he's the same same thing.

1394
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: You know, it's the energy output to but you're gonna

1395
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: get out of it. And and you know what that

1396
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: you just you break down, you get old, you're smarten up.

1397
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't feel great to not be able

1398
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: to walk until Thursday. And he was, you know, getting

1399
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: beat up every week. He didn't miss many games. We're

1400
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: talking about guys who got beat up, like another guy

1401
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: like Terrell Davis, you know, an unbelievable career short. And

1402
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: then you have guys who thrived on you know, longevity

1403
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: of Barry Sanders, another one by the way, longevity, durability,

1404
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: guys like Frank Gore, Like what what do you make

1405
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: the difference of those? A lot of his luck, A

1406
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: lot of it's you know, some guys are wired different. Yeah,

1407
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: you know there's guys that are. Frank Gore just loves

1408
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: to compete. That guy just loves to play football and

1409
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: he's not really like human and especially when you're running

1410
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: back taking the hits that he did for as long

1411
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: as he has, you know, and then some guys are different,

1412
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, just people are different. And and and you

1413
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: never know where that competitive because like once he said,

1414
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: he started talking about it, When you start talking about retirement,

1415
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: you're done. Yeah, And that's what everyone says in the

1416
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: locker room. When you don't, don't start talking about it, Hey, don't, don't, don't, don't,

1417
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: don't start talking. When you start talking about it, you're done.

1418
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: You're done because you mentally get out of it. And

1419
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: you can't be half in half out at that game

1420
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter how big, how fast, whatever, if

1421
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: you're not fully committed to like going in and working

1422
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: your ass off and doing everything you have, Like, that's

1423
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: how you get hurt. Of course, you know it's not

1424
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: you can't, it's not. I don't know how other sports

1425
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: are didn't play professionally in other sports, but like, you

1426
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: have to be on all the time, and when you're not,

1427
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: that's usually when bad shit happens. Absolutely the top wide

1428
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: receivers of all time. NFL's top one hundred rankings has

1429
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson number eight. Where do you put Megatron? Does

1430
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: that look right here? Think you should be higher or lower?

1431
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: What do you think? That's tough? So many great receivers

1432
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 1: they have Jerry Rice one Don Hudson two, Randy Moss three,

1433
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: uh Allworth at four, Steve Largent, t O at six,

1434
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 1: Larry Fitz at seven. I mean, so many great Marvin

1435
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: Harrison's nine. Yeah, you know, it's with the receiver position

1436
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: for me, you know, you know, you know number one,

1437
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: it's it's got to be Jerry. It's Jerry. What do

1438
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 1: you think about putting Randy too? And now see, I

1439
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: don't I have to watch more Don Hudson. Yeah, I

1440
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: don't really know anything about you know, and that could

1441
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: be recent like what is it recency bias? Yeah, yeah,

1442
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, just because Steve Largent was awesome and I

1443
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't, I gotta, I gotta watch more

1444
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,480
Speaker 1: all Worth, you know. But the guy, I mean, Randy's

1445
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: Randy was pretty insane too, three, you know, and he

1446
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: did it with the Vikings Vikings pats he had, yeah,

1447
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders. He was good for a little

1448
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: bit and then he you know, but you know, Rnny

1449
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: Moss was absolute freak. And I have a bias because

1450
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: I saw in practice how he was. So of course,

1451
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, would you take how about t O or

1452
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson? Who would you want on your team I'm

1453
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: taking Calvin Johnson, and it's not just because of athletic

1454
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: performance or or SI speed numbers. This, you know, like

1455
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: we never heard about anything bad about him, right, you

1456
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: know you're you're gonna get an insane receiver and no

1457
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: drama and no drama. You're not, you know what I mean.

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01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: And that's a big thing. And that's what I've been,

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01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: That's what I that's what I was around, you know,

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: that's what I've been brainwashed into because of you know,

1461
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: the the organization I played for. Like I was always

1462
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: taught distractions will fucking murder you. And we had so

1463
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: many goddamn distractions from Gate this, Gate, that fucking that.

1464
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: Like we always had distractions. But because there's always going

1465
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: to be a distraction, the more you can eliminate him,

1466
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: the more you could worry about football, you know what

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01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: I mean. So I don't know, no drama. Roman Polancy's

1468
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: a great director, might sleep with a minor. Give me

1469
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg. That's what I say. Guaranteed product, you know

1470
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be. It's gonna be big box office

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 1: for sure. You know. It's yeah, best nickname in the NFL.

1472
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: We got Megatron, the refrigerator. Sweetness, that's a good one.

1473
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: Broadway Joe is Primetime, Primetime is good. The Boss is

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01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: a good one. Uh Minatron's a damn good one. That

1475
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like my real one though, Manatron's kind of fun.

1476
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a parody. I was like,

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01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: you know what, that's kind of like what It's kind

1478
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: of like when Steve uh Swayze and Farley they did

1479
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: the like Chippendale's thing, and like it's like a it's

1480
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: a fucking joke, all right, that's what that Isntron is

1481
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: a joke. It's not a joke. You you were, you

1482
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: were a machine man. I gotta I gotta vote Broadway

1483
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 1: Joe as in New york Er. It's just so iconic,

1484
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: you know. I loved Sweetness. That was always pretty cool.

1485
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: And then also I loved Primetime prime Time. He can't

1486
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: go wrong with prime Time Prime. I mean, that's that's

1487
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: what everyone wants to play. Love you, I mean he

1488
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: was one of your guys. He was one of my guys. Yeah.

1489
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: I used to have his shoes. I used to have

1490
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: his jersey Sport guy to two sport guys. In fact

1491
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: that Dion and Bo Jackson played two sports. Well, I

1492
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: think Dion Dion played in the same day an NFL

1493
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: game and a baseball game. I think is that Jack?

1494
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: Do we get a little Dion and didn't he play?

1495
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: Didn't he helicopter? I believe he didn't. They made a

1496
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty about it. Are they allowed? Are you

1497
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: allowed to do that anymore? Absolutely not? Probably, that's insane

1498
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: unless you're that good. If you're that good, where you

1499
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: could say worst nickname, OJ the Juice, I'd go with

1500
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: a OJ the Murderer is a worst nickname than the Juice. Oh, Jack,

1501
01:18:55,160 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: what do we forget? Let's see here we mentioned the

1502
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Harlem Shake early on. That the meme dance that gained

1503
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: popularity in twenty thirteen. That is nothing to do with

1504
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: the original Harlem shake developed in the eighties. To me,

1505
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: that's the real Harlem shake. We mentioned the Michael Douglass

1506
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: in the game that did indeed take place in San Francisco.

1507
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: Thank you. The Ford Museum, largest indoor outdoor museum complex

1508
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: in the world out there in Dearborn. Yeah, I'll correct myself.

1509
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson twenty one, not twenty two. I'm sorry I

1510
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: gave you. Oh, I should have known that though that

1511
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: one's on me. Brother. We mentioned Patrick Peterson. He's a long,

1512
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: six foot one. Calvin hated going up against him. They

1513
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: also played six times over the course of Calvin's career.

1514
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: Detroit lost all six unfortunately, Oh Dad, and then Oh

1515
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: we talked. We were talking Nano, the Tamagotchi Nano released

1516
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. Well done. See I knew there was

1517
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, I never thought we'd bring up Tomagatchi. But

1518
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: this is this is a podcast where we reminisce, we

1519
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: think back of old times, weird trends, movies, games, music,

1520
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: I love it. And then one last one here Julian.

1521
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: We mentioned diva tactics from wide Receivers earlier. I got

1522
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: to ask you, what's your biggest diva tactic? Mine was

1523
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: always like behind the scenes, like in the facility at work,

1524
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: if I if I knew, like I can always tell

1525
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, just through the game plan, through personnel groups,

1526
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: who they were trying to get the ball to and

1527
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 1: who they weren't, and your competitor you want the fucking

1528
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: rock and so sometimes you know, Chattio would have to

1529
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: ring me back and be like, hey, bro, you can't

1530
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: be fucking doing this. Chat o'she he's he's a coach

1531
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: over in Cleveland right now, and uh, you know, I

1532
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: but like that's that that gives you an example of

1533
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: having the ecosystem of coaches and shit like, hey, this

1534
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: isn't going to cut it if you get if the

1535
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: big man sees you're acting like this, yeah, you know,

1536
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna get you the funk out. He's doing it

1537
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: for you, he's doing it for me. He put me

1538
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: in my place to let me, you know, like and

1539
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: then then I recalibrate me. You know what I mean,

1540
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, my back coude you know, but

1541
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: you know those are I didn't do anything really on

1542
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah that's too bad. Yeah that's it sounds

1543
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: to me just like you're a competitor. That's pretty healthy

1544
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: on it. Tom would always he'd always say, other ship.

1545
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,560
Speaker 1: It's like what if Jule doesn't get the ball in

1546
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: the first quarter? Like I have to see these little

1547
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: fucking faces from him, Like all right, bro, I don't know,

1548
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: we have to maybe maybe if Tom comes on and

1549
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: does our podcast. I mean we got both maiming guys,

1550
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: We got Bruski, I mean, we get mom. He's busy

1551
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: he's busy. He's busy. You're very busy. You're still playing,

1552
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: But we'd like to see on this podcast. He's prepping

1553
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: for calling games right now. He's prepping for a season.

1554
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna better way to prep than to do broadcasting

1555
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,440
Speaker 1: with his old teammate Julian Edelman. You know, I don't know, Yeah,

1556
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I would be his weather man or something. Hecause,

1557
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: what that'd be a great gig. Yeah, let's name this game. Yeah,

1558
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a three two nine game. He said it,

1559
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 1: he said it, three two nine, regular time, most in

1560
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: the most in the most in a game. Yeah, no overtime,

1561
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: just three two nine. Let's score it steaks, low stakes,

1562
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: it's a regular season. Yeah, it's a five steaks even

1563
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: even five is kind of Yeah, I go three point

1564
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: five three five three five. Star power, I mean we

1565
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: got we got Calvin, we got Stafford, we got Romo,

1566
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: we got Dez, Jason Winton, we got some Bush. Yeah,

1567
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush is a star. But who's gonna be Hall

1568
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: of famers there? Matt Stafford, Megatron winning witting will be

1569
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: probably one absolutely Yeah. Yeah, alright, so star power? What

1570
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: maybe who Tyron Smith? Made Smith? They got some Lineman

1571
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: two over those Cowboys teams that are you know, you

1572
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: gotta give some shout out to the Hogs. So we

1573
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: do what do we do? We always star Power six

1574
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: six gameplay. It's good. I mean, anytime someone goes for

1575
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: three twenty nine and it ends like this, you got

1576
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: to get props to the game. And anytime you got

1577
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford fake spiking jumping in no one in the

1578
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: arena knows he's doing it. He goes full rogue Rogue

1579
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 1: one over here and fucking pulls pulls that trick. Underrated

1580
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: Star Wars flick too, Rogue one. It's honestly one of

1581
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: the better new ones. It's the best new one. Yeah,

1582
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: I would have to agree for sure, don't you think? Guys?

1583
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? All right, Jack, you haven't seen it.

1584
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a big Star Wars guy, Star Trek guy,

1585
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: or no, you don't want to stars you like Lord

1586
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: of Rings like BDSM Back to gameplay. We'll give it

1587
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: a we'll give it a seven. The name three nine,

1588
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: I think like a six six? What do you say?

1589
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Six eight, six point eight? Really, this is an excuse

1590
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: to celebrate the Great Megatron more than anything. Calvin so

1591
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: megas the name Megatron. I'll give a I'll give a

1592
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: high as score or two, but the name of the

1593
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: three twenty nine is not as Yeah. Yeah, So what's

1594
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: that come out to, Jackie? Five point eight two five

1595
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: five point nine. All right, well it was. It was

1596
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: a good one. It was, and he was great. He

1597
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: was great. And that's all for this episode of Games

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01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: with Names, presented by win Bet. Thank you guys for listening.

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully we're entertaining you by note, hopefully we got some

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01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: good shit going. I think I think we're doing a

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, thank you our sponsors. You guys make

1602
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: this thing go, and make sure to follow us on

1603
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: all the social platforms at Games with Names, write a review,

1604
01:24:54,880 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: click like, swipe, whatever they do, do, do it all.

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel. Thanks for listening, guys,