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Speaker 1: Welcome in Klay Travis buck Sexton show Bucket Eye. Working

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Speaker 1: late into the evening last night in Nashville. Buck now

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Speaker 1: back in Miami. I am still here in Nashville. I

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Speaker 1: spent my morning thank you to my son's fourth grade

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Speaker 1: class at career day. Fun time, going in for career day.

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Speaker 1: Lots of the parents are listeners, by the way, so

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you. I don't know that we have

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Speaker 1: very many fourth grade listeners, but if we do, we

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Speaker 1: love all of you, and you're all very smart.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. We got a lot to dive into.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be joined by Senator Roger Marshall of

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Speaker 1: Kansas in the third hour. Just FYI, lots of senators

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Speaker 1: wanting to come by and talk with all of you

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Speaker 1: about a variety of different issues that are going on

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Speaker 1: out there. But Buck, I wanted to start with what

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Speaker 1: seems like a clear identity crisis in the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: They spent all morning fighting the censure of Al Green,

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Speaker 1: a seventy some odd year old man who was kicked

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Speaker 1: out of the speech Tuesday night that Trump gave and

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Speaker 1: has now been censured by the House. But really he

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Speaker 1: just looked like a doddering old man kind of waving

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Speaker 1: his cane randomly and haphazardly in the well of the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives. And this morning I wake up and

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Speaker 1: as I'm getting ready to go talk to the fourth

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Speaker 1: graders at my son's elementary school, I saw a video

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Speaker 1: that I thought was satire, but it's actually a bunch

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Speaker 1: of Democrat congresswomen, including AOC, pretending that they are actually

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Speaker 1: boxers ready for the fight. And the amount of just

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Speaker 1: cringe worthy videos that I have seen from the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Party as they attempt to connect with I presume young voters,

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Speaker 1: is the idea of what they're trying to trying to

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Speaker 1: get into. I just they are lost, and I thought

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Speaker 1: that this was a good representation of the loss. Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: who is I would say, a middle aged lesbian woman's

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Speaker 1: idea of a man that will appeal to men? Is

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Speaker 1: that fairback, doesn't Tim Walls look to you like a

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Speaker 1: lesbian middle aged woman would be like, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that's really going to speak to men? Your analysis

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Speaker 1: is always as a stute, sir, Tim Walls, a middle

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Speaker 1: aged lesbians idea of a masculine man is asked, who

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Speaker 1: is the leader of the Democrat Party, And this is

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Speaker 1: what it sounded like on CNN.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy Sir, who do you think the leader of the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party is right now?

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Speaker 4: I think the voting public right now is what I

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Speaker 4: would say, and I keep doing that. We're not going

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Speaker 4: to have a charismatic leader right in here and save

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Speaker 4: us from this. And I would argue that the key

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Speaker 4: party as it arose out of the ACA, well, where

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Speaker 4: was that charismatic leader? John Bayner and Mitch McConnell and

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch of angry folks at town halls that

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Speaker 4: had members of Congress like myself answering questions. So when

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Speaker 4: people are looking around, where's the leaders or whatever? They

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Speaker 4: are going to organically step up?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Buck, the pause was telling. He eventually said the

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Speaker 1: leader is the American public because they picked their okay,

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Speaker 1: But I think the silence was telling their buck because

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Speaker 1: he didn't say Kamala Harris, which I think would have

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Speaker 1: been an easy answer, and he could have just said, look,

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Speaker 1: she was the nominee for president twenty twenty four. She

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Speaker 1: got seventy five million votes. She's the most popular Democrat

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Speaker 1: politician right now. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are retired.

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Speaker 1: Kamala would have been an easy answer here. It's not

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Speaker 1: a crazy question to expect that you might get. What

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Speaker 1: is your take on Tim Walls eventually saying Oh, the

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Speaker 1: American people are the leader, and what does it say

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Speaker 1: about the Democrat Party right now?

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Speaker 5: I think if you ask Tim Walls a really simple

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Speaker 5: and straightforward question, you're unlikely to get a particularly intelligent answer.

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Speaker 5: So to ask him something for which I think, to

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Speaker 5: be fair, there really isn't a good answer right now, yes,

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Speaker 5: puts him on the spot. To me, it's it's more

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Speaker 5: is how Walls answered the question one way or the other,

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Speaker 5: because to say Kamala would be to steer right into

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Speaker 5: more of the defeat that they've already been suffering the

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Speaker 5: They used to love to say that we have a

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Speaker 5: I can't even and it's up to the Democrat voter

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Speaker 2: He looks completely flabbergasted.

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Speaker 5: And I think that a big part of that is

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Speaker 5: the names for the Democrat leadership right now, even among Democrats,

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Speaker 5: out of the nosedive that it is still going through.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that when you look at Democrat leadership,

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Speaker 5: problem that Democrats have fundamentally is that they became a

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Speaker 5: doesn't look good, and Tim Walls, of course try the

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Speaker 5: JD Vance is weird. Jd Vance is maybe the least

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Speaker 5: weird politician I've ever seen in my life. That was

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Speaker 5: not a good attack.

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Speaker 1: Also to me, the answer says Tim Walls maybe thinking

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Speaker 1: that he is the answer and that he's planning on

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Speaker 1: running for president, and because if he says someone else,

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Speaker 1: then maybe it's a little bit harder to fundraise, Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit harder to actually argue that you

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Speaker 1: should be the face of the Democrat Party. To me,

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Speaker 1: when he's saying, oh, it's the people, he's then going

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Speaker 1: to claim, oh, I can go be the voice of

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Speaker 1: to claim that he he's actually a moderate, middle of

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Speaker 1: is aware of just how toxic the left wing of

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Speaker 1: them is not necessarily the worst thing that could happen

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Speaker 1: for his political future. I think the problem is do

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Speaker 1: you really believe that one Democrats want to want to

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Speaker 1: put forward a white guy? Maybe they do, But two,

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Speaker 1: that Gavin Newsom, coming from California, given what just happened

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Speaker 1: to Kamala Harris, is a California Democrat really on the

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Speaker 1: national stage damaged by what happened with Kamala Harris? Or

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Speaker 1: do you think buck Kamala is her uniquely own character

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Speaker 1: and so her background doesn't really matter because she's got

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Speaker 1: is its own funny story as well.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: I think you can only have one alpha dog in

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Speaker 5: Right So I think that Gavin Newsom is very clearly uh.

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Speaker 5: I know he just launched his podcast. Claire, are you

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Speaker 2: I haven't been invited, but I would.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go and talk to anybody as long

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Speaker 1: as it's not edited, Like I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: As long as it's the full conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'll go on anyone that has a substantial, by the way,

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Speaker 1: substantial audience. I don't want to go on you and

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Speaker 1: your brother's podcast that you just started, but yes, I'm busy,

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Speaker 1: Yes I would do it.

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Speaker 2: Would you? I would go on you and your brother's podcast.

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Speaker 2: I think Clay is being very mean.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't have time to go on you and

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Speaker 1: your brother's podcast unless it was the Kelsey brothers. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they have a big podcast, would you following? Which is

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Speaker 1: amazing to me. I don't understand that at all because

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Speaker 2: What would you do Gavin Newsom's podcast? Absolutely? I think.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm it's funny because they asked if I would go.

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Speaker 2: On Fox this afternoon, Clay, and they have a.

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Speaker 5: Former Obama Obama guy who we're going to have some

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Speaker 2: I mean, it'll be three minutes long.

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Speaker 5: We'll both get to talk one and a half times, probably,

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Speaker 5: It's interesting, though, because Fox News for a while was

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Speaker 5: So you're going to see more Democrats crossing over into

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Speaker 5: he deserves it. But the Democrats don't have anybody right

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Speaker 5: It's sad out there right now for the Democrats, which

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Speaker 5: is why Trump's got to hit the accelerator and keep going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but I really think I know next

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Speaker 1: That's eight seats. Buck, that's eight seats. It's not even

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Speaker 2: And a majority in the House. Although we got to

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Speaker 1: First, sixty Senate seats would truly allow transformative outcomes in

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Speaker 5: I think the last time the GOP had fifty six seats.

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Speaker 5: You know what's really interesting is Scott Jennings having a

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Speaker 6: I was here, say see Walls attack Fetterman.

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Speaker 5: He's rough shot, running rough shot over the opposition. So

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Speaker 5: question for you, and let's talk about this when we

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Speaker 5: come back. CNN and MSNBC are tanking. The conflict debates

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Speaker 1: Do you think we'll talk about it when we come back?

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Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of the program. Buck, I asked you

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Speaker 1: The President's basically state of the Union, which is a

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Speaker 1: So those don't really rate and exist now is there

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Speaker 5: Calling them the mainstream media? Why are they mainstream? So

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Speaker 5: I mean, when you start to compare this to the

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Speaker 5: all of this, you know, gets gets completely injected into

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Speaker 5: the American body politic for eight years of Obama, but

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Speaker 5: then things just got crazier and crazier and under Biden,

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Speaker 5: well under COVID really and then you know, for Biden's term,

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Speaker 5: I think they just reached I don't know if you know,

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Speaker 5: there's like terminal velocity. Isn't that when you're you jump

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Speaker 5: out of a plane and you go to the absolute

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Speaker 5: fastest speed that your mask can travel. I think that's

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Speaker 5: terminal velocity. It was there was a bad movie in

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Speaker 5: the nineties based on that. That's what immediately comes to mind,

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Speaker 5: is the movie, right, But yeah, I think it's terminal velocity.

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Speaker 5: I think Democrats under Biden politically have reached terminal insanity.

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Speaker 5: Uh they got about as crazy as they could be,

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Speaker 5: and now they're dealing with the backlash from a majority

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Speaker 5: of the American people of you guys can't just be

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Speaker 5: totally insane. You can't have a dementia puppet as the

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Speaker 5: president and we all then see it and we all

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Speaker 5: know it, and you don't suffer political consequences. The Democrats

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Speaker 5: deeply deserve the pathetic and ignominious post election party that

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Speaker 5: they are mired in right now. It's exactly what they

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Speaker 5: should have. They earned this, they own this, So let

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Speaker 5: them wallow a bit, let them be sad.

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Speaker 1: They don't make good arguments, and to a large extent,

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Speaker 1: they don't make good arguments because they don't have to

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Speaker 1: grapple with the other side's argument. Because when you have

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Speaker 1: convinced yourself that your opponent is Adolph Hitler, your argument

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be that good, right, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that's in their mind what we saw. Even Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 1: who I think is a relatively intelligent Democrat, Ron de

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Speaker 1: Satas wiped the floor with him. When Sean Hannity hosted

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Speaker 1: their debate about a year and a half ago or

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. You remember that basically came down to

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Speaker 1: the COVID leadership, of course.

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Speaker 5: But on the Hitler comparison, which we used to talk

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Speaker 5: about here with some frequency in the lead at the election,

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Speaker 5: because it was daily programming at MSNBS.

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Speaker 2: He was Hitler.

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Speaker 5: He was Hitler, and it's you're really, how can you

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Speaker 5: think you're a serious person worthy? How could you think

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Speaker 5: of yourself as a public intellectual or however they want

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Speaker 5: to a pundit, whatever, How are you want to describe

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Speaker 5: yourself if you're going to say that a recent American

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Speaker 5: president who is leading your candidate in the polls, who

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Speaker 5: also happens to be by far the choice of the

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Speaker 5: entire state of Israel, if they were able to we

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Speaker 5: all know this. I think Trump is outside of America,

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Speaker 5: probably more popular in Israel than any other country in

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Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 1: Not that I generally hope is popular in Israel, like

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Speaker 1: he's popular in West Virginia or Wyoming. States that he

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Speaker 1: won by the largest Ish margins in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four election, that contextualizes it.

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Speaker 5: And I just think if you can, if you were

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Speaker 5: to say, I don't think the guy who has the

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Speaker 5: overwhelming support of the entire pope of the Jewish State

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Speaker 5: is Hitlarian.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think you could be a serious person.

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Speaker 5: And if your remember, you know I when I had

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Speaker 5: the sit down, you mentioned Bill Maher, and Bill was

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Speaker 5: trying to be reasonable, and there were a couple of

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Speaker 5: Democrats at that table. They were just shrieking about the

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Speaker 5: same nonsense about racism and the insurrection and all this stuff,

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Speaker 5: and they forgot that people actually care about what's happening

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Speaker 5: in the country right now. That's reality to them. They

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Speaker 5: care about the economy, they care about the border, they

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Speaker 5: care about crime, they care about things that are measurable

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Speaker 5: and real, not just narratives that create emotionally destabilized zombies

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Speaker 5: running around talking about the insurrection all the time. And

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Speaker 5: so this is I think it's this is my way

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Speaker 5: of saying Clay Democrats need this. It's like a cleansing

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Speaker 5: of their souls that is going on right now. It's

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Speaker 5: a reset that must occur because they really went insane.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of truth to that, and

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Speaker 1: there is on social media a great demand for the intersection.

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Speaker 1: We'll play some Gavin Newsom, and it seems to me

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Speaker 1: that Gavin Newsom is trying to engage in some way

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Speaker 1: with people on the other side of the aisle. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a desperate demand actually for that, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure it translates on television because Buck, you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: Fox News in a little bit, and I know Fox

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Speaker 1: News has a massive audience. But from a social media perspective,

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Speaker 1: it often feels like basically television exists so that small

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Speaker 1: segments of television can be clipped and shared on social media,

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Speaker 1: whether it's TikTok, whether it's Instagram reels, whether it's whether

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Speaker 1: it's Twitter. If you go on and look at oftentimes

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Speaker 1: what is popular or what is trending, A huge percentage

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Speaker 1: of the time, it's somebody taking a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: from video. It doesn't just have to be television, right,

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Speaker 1: It could be a podcast version of video, whatever else

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Speaker 1: popular on YouTube. It is just video that's pulled and

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Speaker 1: then put to circulate on social media. So I guess

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Speaker 1: one of the things I wonder about, as we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Scott Jennings is to what extent is what's popular

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Speaker 1: on social media reflective of what would be popular on television,

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Speaker 1: And in many ways, given the fact that television is

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Speaker 1: running into video all over the Internet, what does television

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Speaker 1: even exist and look like in the years ahead. What

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Speaker 1: I do know is Democrats have lost the ability. If

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Speaker 1: you look at that video they put up of all

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Speaker 1: the women boxing and everything else to connect with younger

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Speaker 1: people on social media, they just look profoundly dorky and

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Speaker 1: on fun And that is not a good recipe for

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Speaker 1: how to cut through in this current era. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's emblematic of why Republicans have done so well

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Speaker 1: with men, because men look at some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that's being put out by Democrats just roll their eyes

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Speaker 1: over the fact that they have gone completely insane.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I don't think it's going to get better

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Speaker 5: for them anytime soon. I think it's likely to continue

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Speaker 5: as it is right now. On the points about democratic leadership,

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Speaker 5: I mean, Harry Enton, this is cut five. He says

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Speaker 5: that at the speech the Democrats reaction to Trump' speech,

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Speaker 5: which we talked to you about earlier in the week,

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Speaker 5: shows just why the Democrat Party is really at its

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Speaker 5: least popular has ever been. This is cut five player.

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Speaker 8: There's a reason why congressional Democrats have like a twenty

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Speaker 8: percent approval rating, and even amongst the Roman Party has

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Speaker 8: like a forty percent. The Lowes Quinnipiac has ever measured,

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Speaker 8: and I think last night and sort of what's been

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Speaker 8: going on over the past few months as a gosh darn.

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Speaker 2: Good illustration of that clay.

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Speaker 5: There's really nothing for them to point to right now

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Speaker 5: that I think is positive for their party in a

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Speaker 5: broad sense of trying to go into the midterms and

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Speaker 5: the inevitable presidential campaign, and I think if anything, they

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Speaker 5: may put themselves in a position where they're preparing to

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Speaker 5: fight the last political war, because all they've done now

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Speaker 5: for ten years is run against Trump unsuccessfully. In the end,

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Speaker 5: I might add, right when push came to shove, Trump

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Speaker 5: beat them, and their whole party turned into this anti Trump,

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Speaker 5: they they have to go through a metamorphosis. There is

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Speaker 5: a transformation that I think Democrats will have to. Now

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Speaker 5: it's not going to be on every I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: they're going to become a pro life party or you know,

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Speaker 5: they're not going to change that kind of stuff, but

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Speaker 5: in the way they present and in the way they

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Speaker 5: focus on issues and fight the media war to try

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Speaker 5: to sway that middle three to five percent of voters,

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Speaker 5: you know, which doesn't It's funny, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: That's all we're really talking about.

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Speaker 5: But they're going to have to change the way that

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Speaker 5: they're presented because there are a lot of people that

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Speaker 5: will vote Democrat no matter what. We know that they

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Speaker 5: just seventy five million of them voted for Kamala. A

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Speaker 5: couple a quarter of a million people voting for Democrats

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Speaker 5: over Republicans in a handful of well in half a

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Speaker 5: dozen states would have changed the election toward the Democrats.

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Speaker 5: So it's not like we're sitting here saying the Democrats

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Speaker 5: don't have a massive infrastructure and millions and millions of

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Speaker 5: people who are voting for any Democratic candidate they put up.

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Speaker 5: But how will they not have the same result going forward?

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Speaker 5: And also how will they avoid the public repudiation that

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Speaker 5: comes every time they try to present their arguments. Now, well,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know there's stuff. The stuff they're saying

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Speaker 5: is silly. They look silly.

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Speaker 1: I think there are so two things that build out

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Speaker 1: of that. One they have not reached the look in

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Speaker 1: the mirror and acknowledge that you have a bad message

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Speaker 1: and that's why people didn't vote for you, not because

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Speaker 1: your message wasn't heard well enough. That's the debate that

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Speaker 1: they're currently having. Second, part of this, Buck, and this

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Speaker 1: is where I think they're going to end up. I

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Speaker 1: think they will move from Trump is Hitler. Watch how

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Speaker 1: fast this happens and clip this save it for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years in the future. As we get ready

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Speaker 1: for twenty eight this pivot's going to happen. They're going

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Speaker 1: to move from Trump is Hitler to Trump is a

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Speaker 1: uniquely talented politician that Republicans cannot replicate, and that's why

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Speaker 1: he won in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four. Initially

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Speaker 1: it was Russia, then it's he's Hitler. All of his

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Speaker 1: supporters are racist. Buck, get ready for this. There's once

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Speaker 1: he's out of the picture, they're going to start arguing

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Speaker 1: how talented he actually was, and they're going to argue

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Speaker 1: that trump Ism the MAGA universe does not translate to jd.

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Speaker 1: Vance or whomever is seen as the successor, and they

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Speaker 1: are going to struggle to produce the support that Trump did.

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Speaker 1: Much like we've pointed out, Obama really didn't have very

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Speaker 1: many cotails. He was a uniquely talented individual politician that

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Speaker 1: was not able to bring his party that much success.

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Speaker 1: They're going to start to argue that Trump is that

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Speaker 1: get ready for it.

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Speaker 2: They're going to go from Trump is Hitler.

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Speaker 1: Russia's the only reason he won to Boy, he's really

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Speaker 1: good at this, but it's not going to translate to

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Speaker 1: the next Republican That is I think the cope that

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Speaker 1: they will move towards in the wake of the term

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Speaker 1: elections when Trump is coming off the ballot.

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Speaker 2: Get ready for it.

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Speaker 5: I'll let call her Mike. Tell everybody call her Mike

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Speaker 5: from Houston. What do you What have you got to

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Speaker 5: remind everybody of? It is quite a day on the calendar.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Hi, Yeah, I'm Mike. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Everyone can?

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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Speaker 7: Perfect? Okay? So yeah, today is March sixth. We'll call

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Speaker 7: him Texas Alamo Days, the day the Alamo fell the

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Speaker 7: Santa Anna's troops after thirteen day siege, and uh so

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to actually, I wanted to bring up

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Speaker 7: have you guys heard of the Travis letters?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course Liberty or Death?

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Speaker 7: Yes, exactly. So I just thought, for you know, Clay's namesake,

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Speaker 7: William Barrett's William Barrett, Travis's letter was just relevant to

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Speaker 7: what you guys were talking about earlier in the week

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Speaker 7: about why you were talking actually about Musk and you

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Speaker 7: were talking about what what finally seemed to bring him

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Speaker 7: over to Trump's side and his his response to fight,

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Speaker 7: fight fight after being shot at, And it just reminded

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Speaker 7: me of being Texas History Week because we had Texas

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Speaker 7: Independence Day on Sunday, March second, and then of course

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Speaker 7: a few days later with the Paul de Alamo, and

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Speaker 7: of course the letter was ten before that, but it

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Speaker 7: just reminded me of like, you know, how he addresses

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Speaker 7: that letter, which and I know you guys are history boffs,

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Speaker 7: but I just.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, well, look, with Mike, we're at time. I appreciate

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Speaker 5: you calling in reminding us about alumal day will remind

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Speaker 5: York Times headline, they're trying to sell it like Gavin

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Speaker 5: Newsom is having a big break with his party on

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Speaker 5: the transgender issue. Remember I asked the question here, I said,

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Speaker 5: who could break with the Democrats? That would be the

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Speaker 5: beginning of their leaving this transports thing behind.

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Speaker 2: You want to tackle this week, come back, let's dive

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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 1: What did he actually say, how is it being covered,

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Speaker 1: and what is it telling us. We'll dive into all

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Speaker 1: that more when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Second hour