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It has been 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: a bad month for Wells Fargo shareholders and for the bank, 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: the bank agreeing to pay in order to settle allegations 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: related to fraudulent accounts being opened, and also the appearance 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: before two sets of regulators in Washington of John Stump, 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: the company's chief executive. We're gonna have more on Wells Fargo. 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Find out maybe Wells Fargo stock is on sale right now, though, 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Let's go to Catherine Cowdy in the Bloomberg news room 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Business Flash. Thank you, Bam and Bloomberg. 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At 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg first word desc company del judais Bloomberg Radio 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: we take the markets every fifteen minute throughout the trading 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: day and Bloomberg Radio down. Industrial averages up two hundred 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: nine points one point one percent, trading at eighteen thousand, 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: three hundred fifty two. SMP five funded up twenty three 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: points one point one percent seventy four. The nasdact is 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: higher by fifty four points, a gain of one percent. 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Is trading at fifty three twenty three less. 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You're listening to 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: taking stock with Kathleen and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio. 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: The shares of Wells Fargo, they are up about two 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: tenths of a percent right now forty dollars and forty 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: nine cents. But earlier in the year this was a 88 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: fifty four dollar a share stock and would know that 89 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo has not had the best of months. The 90 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: chief executive John Stump peering before two sets of regulators 91 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: in Washington this week to speak about allegations and efforts 92 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: on the part of investigators to learn more about accounts 93 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: that were open for people that for all intensive purposes 94 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: did not exist. Here to tell us more. Peter Anderson 95 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: he his chief investment officer, a fiduciary trust company. Peter, 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: always a pleasure, Thanks for joining me. You're welcome. Now 97 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: let's separate what is going on at Wells Fargo in 98 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: terms of investigations and the chief executives performance and role 99 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: in future and the actual bank because that may help 100 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: us guide, you know, the guide the conversation about what 101 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: the stock is actually worth exactly, and you know, I 102 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: think they're in line with problem him Uh. This past 103 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: week there has been a lot of focus on the 104 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: CEO's activities and appearing before two agencies to discuss this. 105 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: And while we don't want to understate the damage of 106 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the scandal, I think a lot of focus has been 107 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: lost on the value of the stock and going forward, 108 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: what the plans will be to recover uh investor confidence. 109 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: And we're waiting. A lot of investors are waiting on 110 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: the sidelines, kind of in a holding pattern, to get 111 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: a sense of what the board of directors, for instance, 112 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: what they're thinking and what they might uh possibly propose 113 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: as a solution. There has been uh, they've been silent 114 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: on the issue so far. And you're a shareholder, Yes, 115 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: we are. We have a long term shareholder and uh, 116 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: we have a lot of confidence and faith in the company. However, 117 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: this period of I would say lack of disclosure is 118 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: somewhat of concern because we think we need more information, 119 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: as any stock analysts would to get a sense of 120 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: what the future cash flows are in factoring in what 121 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: their proposed solutions would be to the scandal. Well, let 122 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: me just play you a clip of Elizabeth Warren, senator 123 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: from Massachusetts, speaking on the panel. They were questioning the 124 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: chief executive John Stump of of Wells Fargo. Just listen 125 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to what she had to say. You should resign, You 126 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: should give back the money that you took while this 127 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: scam was going on, and you should be criminally investigated 128 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: by both the Department of Justice and the Securities in 129 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Exchange Commission. Harsh words from Senator Elizabeth Warren. Uh, Peter Anderson, 130 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: this has got to affect the brand? Or am I wrong? Well? 131 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: You know, I think what it should affect is the 132 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: board of directors. You know, their duty bound to respond 133 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: to this and UM. While the CEO certainly is in 134 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: the center of this firestorm right now, at least in 135 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: the public eye. You know, as an analyst, I would 136 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: say that you need to know what the the highest 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: leadership is thinking, which is higher than the CEO. Right 138 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: is that? But he's also the chairman, right, I mean 139 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: John Stump is also the chairman and chief executive. He is. 140 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: And you know a lot of government experts have been 141 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: saying for years that you should always separate those two 142 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: authorities because of situations like this. But there are independent 143 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: directors that certainly our duty bound to come forward and mentioned. 144 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Not only what I would say is disclosed and proposed, 145 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: So disclose what's happened. And I well, John, I give 146 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: you an example. John Chen, the chief executive of BlackBerry 147 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: is on the board, yes, of Wells Fargo. Have you 148 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: received any information from them? Have they given you any 149 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: indication about anything uh? Publicly the board? As far as 150 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: I know, the only uh disclosure they've given was the 151 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: notice about clawback UH for the the two very highlighted 152 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: individuals right now, the CEO and the other person. But 153 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: other than that, we do not have anything official. So 154 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: for instance, let me give you An example him that 155 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: might help investors modeled future cash flows is if the 156 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: board were to have an investor conference call and disclose 157 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: and propose what they are thinking in terms of fixing 158 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: this going forward. I think that would give more clarity 159 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: to the situation. You know, as investors, most analysts are 160 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: looking to companies for guidance rights for things as basic 161 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: as earnings. So this I put this kind of in 162 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: the same category, only even uh more highly ranked in 163 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: the sense that if they can give us information and 164 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: how they might fix this, there would be clarity and 165 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: we could go forward with our analysis. And Peter Anderson, 166 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: I just wanna offer a little bit up of your resume, 167 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: uh Harvard, Yale, Northeastern Physics. Maybe the physics will come 168 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: in handy with this with this particular situation. And also 169 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: previously the head of multi asset wealth management at Congress 170 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Wealth Management. Um, is there a click a time a 171 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: time frame here? I know we're on a time clock, 172 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: give you about ten seconds. Is there a time clock 173 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: for the board of directors? Well, time is their enemies 174 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: of him, and as I would urge them to quickly 175 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: propose a solution and then we can get back to 176 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: our Bloomberg terminals and do the analysis. I want to 177 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining me. Peter Anderson is 178 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: the chief investment officer at Fiduciary Trust Company. They're based 179 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: in Boston, home to Bloomberg, shairs of Microsoft. I mean, 180 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: beg your pardon. Shares of Wells Fargo are up a 181 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: quarter of our percent. Right now, you're listening to taking Stop. 182 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: This is bloom Blog coming up on taking stock. We're 183 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: going to take stock of the election and what would 184 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: happen if there's a big post election market move. Which 185 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: way would it go? That's next