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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Giftias Charge Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Steven and I am the host and

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Speaker 1: as joining me as always is my guy Tyler. Tyler,

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Speaker 1: what's that man? How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic boy?

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Speaker 3: I like when the Chargers win. I love when the

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Speaker 3: Chargers win. It is so much better and it's especially

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Speaker 3: sweet when it's on primetime and the whole panel of

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Speaker 3: media members picks the Chargers to lose. Oops didn't work out,

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Speaker 3: did it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It certainly did not. The national narratives are are

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Speaker 1: fun today. Suddenly the Jets defense is really bad and

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert should have thrown for three hundred yards. I

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Speaker 1: guess last night certainly had a lot of fun watching

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Speaker 1: that game. We'll talk about a lot of it today.

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Speaker 1: The Charges are officially at the halfway point of their season,

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Speaker 1: so we have some bigger picture conversations as well. Today

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Speaker 1: should be a fun show, as always presented by the

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Speaker 1: Chargers Podcast Network. Tyler and I are fans of the

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Speaker 1: team first and foremost who have been giving this platform

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Speaker 1: that we are very grateful for. But the opinions that

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Speaker 1: we share on this show are just out there. Our opinions,

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Speaker 1: not the opinions of the Chargers organization, and yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: excited to dive in today. So we'll start with our

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Speaker 1: our truth segment as we always do, We'll hand out

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Speaker 1: some game balls today, and then we wanted to kind

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Speaker 1: of a zoom out looks at some bigger picture stuff

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Speaker 1: today as the Chargers are officially back in the playoff hunt.

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Speaker 1: So Tyler, we'll start with you here. What is your

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Speaker 1: biggest truth or takeaway from the game against the New

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Speaker 1: York Chess last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the truth for me is this, Darius Davis won

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Speaker 3: the game for the Chargers with that touchdown, and literally

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Speaker 3: because of the seven points they got was all they needed.

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Speaker 2: But that touchdown was just such a gift for the

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Speaker 3: You know, you and I figured the charge would need

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Speaker 3: two touchdowns, you know, maybe seventeen points to win this game.

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Speaker 3: You get to seventeen, you're probably winning, and again they

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Speaker 3: only needed seven, but he figured, Okay, going into the game,

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Speaker 3: seventeen is what you need, and then Darius Davis just

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Speaker 3: gave them seven. And it just felt like from there,

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Speaker 3: the offense and the defense, you could just feel that

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Speaker 3: the pressure was just off, especially on the offense. They

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Speaker 3: didn't have to force things. They didn't have to.

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Speaker 2: You know, Herbert did not have to be a hero.

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Speaker 3: He did not have to throw multiple interceptions trying to

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Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. And they had to score.

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Speaker 3: They had to score. No, that wasn't the case. And

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Speaker 3: the defense, I mean, it was like handing your kid

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Speaker 3: one hundred dollars in a chuck e cheese and just saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: go for it, Joey, have fun. And they did the defense.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk about the defense. I'm sure got

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Speaker 3: to just pin their ears back and go and go

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Speaker 3: have fun. And it wasn't just that they executed well,

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Speaker 3: it's that you could tell they were playing faster and

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Speaker 3: the defense was playing with house money. So the pressure

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Speaker 3: was immediately off the offense to have to score all

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Speaker 3: seventeen and the defense, I mean the Jets officially from

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Speaker 3: to score, and so the defense just got to go great, thanks, Joey,

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Speaker 3: bos is healthy too, We've got Mac, We've got Fox.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, and everybody pitched it into the tune

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Speaker 3: the stats for them forty pressures and eight sacks. I

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Speaker 3: didn't think that was possible, but Darius Davis and getting

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Speaker 3: play catchup and the defense to play free made it possible.

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Speaker 3: So Darius Davis both literally won with the game for

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Speaker 3: the Chargers with the seven points. But also I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'll get to some of the defensive

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Speaker 1: just the touchdown. It was also the pun return right

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Speaker 1: You know that Brandon City pointed out, gave them some

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Speaker 1: He actually said after the game that he felt bad

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Speaker 1: because he felt like he could have had more touchdowns

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Speaker 1: give his team an edge. After the draft, I interviewed

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Speaker 1: at Darius Davis's career in college, it always seemed like

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Speaker 1: his best punt returns were when the team really needed

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Speaker 1: them the most, Like team really needs a spark, the

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Speaker 1: Monday Night against against the New York Jets, just a

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Speaker 1: real X factor in the return game. Gave the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and nights like Monday Night are exactly why you make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they crushed that pick to LESCo Kellen Moore, Ryan

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Speaker 3: the selection crushed it. And you can only justify a

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Speaker 3: Didn't get to see that on Monday Night, but we

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Speaker 2: And look, Ryan Ficken, Primetime Ficken is.

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Speaker 3: Becoming like a thing now for this team because you

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Speaker 2: And I just don't remember.

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Speaker 3: I know this isn't really my truth here what I'm

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Speaker 3: And I don't even just mean like the players are

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Speaker 2: Badgeley's good years recently, he was great.

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Speaker 3: But they'd give up kick returns, punts were blocked, you know, etc.

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Speaker 3: know your returners. Cameron Dicker now looks like the next

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Speaker 3: great NFL kicker for the Chargers and really around the

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Chargers are close to losing him

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Speaker 3: because again, I don't recall the last time a special

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Speaker 2: He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, turning around the Charger special teams unit is certainly

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Speaker 1: a resume booster. Really quickly on camera, Dicker, because I

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Speaker 1: Last night, against the Jets, he hit his fourth field

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Speaker 1: goal of the season from fifty yards plus that ties

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Speaker 1: the Chargers regular season record. Josh Lambeau hit four fifty

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Speaker 1: And so it's just been you know, Dustin Hopkins has

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Speaker 1: Like my wife, brook is a is a new fan,

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Speaker 1: He's he's also a legitimate weapon on special teams. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers have one of the best punt returners in

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Speaker 1: we've seen that time and time again. Like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: primetime ficking is really coming out, So it was it

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Speaker 1: was great to see on Monday night football against the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ton of fun.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned before the season, my health, my blood

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Speaker 3: pressure depends on Cameron Dicker, and so thank you Cameron

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Speaker 3: Dicker for doing it for all of us Chargers fans

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Speaker 3: and just keeping me alive throughout the season. Steven, what

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Speaker 3: is your truth after watching the film? Could it be

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Speaker 3: about the defense?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's about these Chargers edg rushers. Man, this is

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Speaker 1: the best trio of edg rushers in Chargers history. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, obviously they've had Junior Sayout, They've obviously

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Speaker 1: in Chargers history in my opinion. Granted I was born

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Speaker 1: Junior say out, but that's just my opinion. Right now,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are the only team in the league with

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Speaker 1: at least three edge rushers who have at least ten

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Speaker 1: run stops. Randon Stey has highlighted run defense as a

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Speaker 1: legitimately key turnaround and the edge rushers being kind of

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Speaker 3: again I don't really care that, yes, I expected the

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Speaker 3: you're discounting the Jets and you're saying that they're players

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Speaker 3: It's now up to them next week against the Lions

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you have a much more difficult

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Speaker 3: That sets up up your ability to rush the passer.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome for Motito.

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Speaker 2: So to see that is great.

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Speaker 3: Again, this rotation is just fantastic. Big credit to give Smith.

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Speaker 1: in terms of the truth segment, looking back at kind

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Speaker 1: of the numbers, watching some of this film and looking

435
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Speaker 1: at the way this Chargers offense is struggling, I do

436
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Speaker 1: kind of want to discuss this because none of us

437
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Speaker 1: were expecting a huge output on offense. This Jets defense

438
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Speaker 1: is insanely talented, especially against the pass argent Menon, who

439
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Speaker 1: was on the show last week, pointed out that the

440
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Speaker 1: pass rush pressure justin Herbert around fifty five percent of

441
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Speaker 1: his dropbacks and they perfectly covered. The Chargers receivers on

442
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Speaker 1: around fifty percent of their dropbacks as well. So the

443
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Speaker 1: Jets defense is insane. So I'm not super surprised that

444
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Speaker 1: the offense struggled, but I think it's really time that

445
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore leans back into the run game as a

446
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Speaker 1: solution here. This is an offense that is not set

447
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Speaker 1: up how they were supposed to be set up. Obviously,

448
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is injured, Josh Palmer is now injured, Jeraldever

449
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Speaker 1: it is a little bit banged up here and there.

450
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Speaker 1: The run game has to be the answer, and I

451
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Speaker 1: know that it hasn't been pretty at times. I actually

452
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Speaker 1: thought they were able to run the football dec well

453
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Speaker 1: last night. Austin Eckler had his best game on the

454
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Speaker 1: ground of the season outside of Week one. Obviously, josh

455
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Speaker 1: ba Kelly only getting three carries is an issue to

456
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Speaker 1: me that needs to be corrected. But this was a

457
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Speaker 1: game where I think you needed to do a much

458
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Speaker 1: better job of protecting Justin Herbert and protecting your defense

459
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Speaker 1: and controlling the clock, and so you know, this was

460
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Speaker 1: this was a game that I was expecting Kellen Moore

461
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Speaker 1: to kind of lean into the run game. A little

462
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Speaker 1: bit more, and we didn't see that happen that it

463
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Speaker 1: needs to happen, Like, you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: run the football going forward, and you know they're going

465
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Speaker 1: to get into some potentially like cold weather situations here

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Speaker 1: in the next few months. They have to get this

467
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Speaker 1: figured out. The Lions are pretty similar about the Jets

468
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Speaker 1: that you in the middle of the road in terms

469
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Speaker 1: of the run defense. The Packers the week after that

470
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Speaker 1: are terrible against the run. Like that these next few weeks,

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Speaker 1: you have to get the run game going otherwise your offense,

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Speaker 1: I think is just going to kind of be stuck

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Speaker 1: in the mud again because I just I don't know

474
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Speaker 1: how many answers you have without Palmer and Mike Williams

475
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Speaker 1: out there, you know, I just you know, you can

476
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Speaker 1: only do so much with Keenan, And Keenan was fantastic yesterday.

477
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Speaker 1: But the run game needs to be a much greater

478
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Speaker 1: emphasis point of emphasis for this offensive coaching staff or

479
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Speaker 1: the offense I think is just going to kind of

480
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Speaker 1: continue to be stuck in mud a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the play of the tackles and of

482
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Speaker 3: course in particular Rashaun Slater has really surprised the team.

483
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Speaker 3: I think there's an aspect of going into the season

484
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Speaker 3: assuming that you're good there and frankly the whole, the

485
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Speaker 3: whole offense life would be better than it currently has been.

486
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Speaker 3: And I just think, in particular with Rashaun Slater last night,

487
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Speaker 3: you're just surprised by how things have kind of gone

488
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Speaker 3: and so at some point, you know, you kind of

489
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Speaker 3: hoped during the bye, but hasn't quite happened, But you'd

490
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Speaker 3: hope that at the middle point of this season and

491
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Speaker 3: heading into some very difficult games, that they can self

492
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Speaker 3: scout a bit and say, Okay, like, we've got to

493
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Speaker 3: reevaluate what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: We had a plan going in of the year. It

495
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Speaker 2: was a good plan.

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Speaker 3: Week one was great and then things people got hurt

497
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Speaker 3: and things changed. Okay, let's reevaluate after the buye okay

498
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Speaker 3: things after the bye.

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Speaker 2: We've seen what we liked that is good. We've seen

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Speaker 2: that we tried that didn't work out so well.

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Speaker 3: So what can we lean into And yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: definitely surprised that Joshua Kelly didn't get more touches. If

503
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Speaker 3: it's an issue of you know, he gets four carries

504
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Speaker 3: for six yards every game and that's why you don't

505
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Speaker 3: want to give him more touches.

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Speaker 2: I understand.

507
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Speaker 3: But statistically going into this game, and I'm sure it's

508
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Speaker 3: pretty close now, I mean, he was ahead of Austin

509
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Speaker 3: Eckler in yards per attempt, yards after contact per attempt,

510
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Speaker 3: rushing yards ever expected per attempt, avoiding negative rushing plays,

511
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Speaker 3: success rate EPA per rush. You know, anywhere you looked

512
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Speaker 3: as a runner, Joshuvac Kelly was better. And that does

513
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Speaker 3: that Does that mean that he's elite? Does that mean

514
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Speaker 3: that he's great? No, but he can't just give you

515
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Speaker 3: a bit more. And you gotta find a way to

516
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Speaker 3: avoid these third and lungs because the Chargers had no answer.

517
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Speaker 3: I can't think of a single third and long outside

518
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Speaker 3: of maybe the.

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Speaker 2: One that was the thrown to Keenan, that great.

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Speaker 3: Play, but that might have been a third and short.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't think of a third and long that what

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Speaker 3: didn't end up in Herbert getting hit or sacked. I

523
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Speaker 3: mean it was pretty rough. They had no answer, So

524
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Speaker 3: you got to find a way. Eckler can be involved

525
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Speaker 3: as a receiver when he catches the football, but Joshua Kelly,

526
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Speaker 3: even if all he does is give you three and

527
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Speaker 3: a half yards or four yards and on Monday he

528
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Speaker 3: gave you six yards to carry. That's way better. You

529
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Speaker 3: can survive elite pass rushes if you can just get

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Speaker 3: to second and six, but you can't live in second

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Speaker 3: and eight, second and nine, second and ten, second and nine.

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Speaker 3: In the same way, we discussed how great the run

533
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Speaker 3: defense was for the Charges and how that set up

534
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Speaker 3: their rush. You got to set your offense up for

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Speaker 3: a bit more success. So either that's an extension of

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Speaker 3: the run game like they sort of were doing at

537
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Speaker 3: the beginning of the year with screens or something a

538
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Speaker 3: bit different there, or just leaning into the run game.

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Speaker 3: They got to find a way to stay ahead because

540
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Speaker 3: you can't go and go face Baltimore in a game

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Speaker 3: that you basically need to win to establish yourself in

542
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Speaker 3: the AFC. You can't go face Baltimore and just say yeah,

543
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Speaker 3: we're gonna you know, this is all we got you,

544
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Speaker 3: Golllean is the run. You gotta find some different ways

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Speaker 3: to make it work, and.

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Speaker 2: So far it's not. Do you feel I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you watched the offense today.

548
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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken.

549
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Speaker 3: Yet, do you at least feel that the offensive line

550
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Speaker 3: at this point, is actually better suited to be run

551
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Speaker 3: blocking or do you feel that their strength is past pro.

552
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Speaker 1: I think it's run blocking. I think the offensive line

553
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Speaker 1: run blocking hasn't been amazing, but it hasn't been an issue.

554
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Speaker 1: Like I've been on the record that the tied end

555
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Speaker 1: blocking has been a much greater issue. I thought watching

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Speaker 1: the broadcast that Nick Vannett was was a solid contribution there.

557
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: You know, I'll see what the film says there, but

558
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Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is still struggling with some

559
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Speaker 1: of the aspects of playing against stunts and games. And

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Speaker 1: you know, watching the broadcast, the Jets would do this

561
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Speaker 1: thing where they would have, say, eventually do a stunt

562
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Speaker 1: or a game on one side, and then they would

563
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Speaker 1: kind of like fake one on the other side and

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Speaker 1: then end up dropping one to kind of spy Herbert

565
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Speaker 1: a little bit, which is something that the Chiefs stood

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And the Chiefs really confuse the Chargers

567
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Speaker 1: with that kind of look in Rashaun Slater. I don't

568
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Speaker 1: know if there's an ankle injury still there or what,

569
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Speaker 1: but you know, again, the Jets defensive line is insane,

570
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Speaker 1: but there were some instant wins from the Jets defensive

571
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Speaker 1: line against both of these offensive tackles, which, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever you think of Trey Pipkins to me, I was

573
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Speaker 1: surprised to see that live. So it's just I think

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Speaker 1: it establishing the run helps everybody here. It helps the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, takes pressure off of Herbert, it protects Herbert,

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Speaker 1: takes pressure off of the receivers, and I just in

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Speaker 1: these two games like these are the perfect kind of

578
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Speaker 1: games where you want to workshop the run game because

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Speaker 1: you're in such a positive game script. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to seem like overly negative obviously, but

581
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Speaker 1: you know, we have to be real here on this show.

582
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Speaker 1: And the Charges offense did enough, but I think they

583
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Speaker 1: did leave some meat on the bone last night and

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Speaker 1: against the Bears as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what changes them from being maybe even just

586
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Speaker 3: a okay offense or a good offense to being great.

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Speaker 3: And so you have to discuss it. There's always room

588
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Speaker 3: for improvement. Have to address I have to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Tyler, Well let's get to our game

591
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: balls of the week here. Who is your choice coming

592
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Speaker 1: off with a victory from Monday Night Football could.

593
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Speaker 3: Go many directions, but how about the guy who has

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Speaker 3: ten thousand and seven yards in his career. Please don't

595
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: get a screen and lose eight yards your first reception

596
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: next week, or you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Do it all over again.

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Speaker 3: But no, I am truly proud.

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Speaker 2: I think speak for a lot of fans.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud as a fan to have watched Keenan Allen

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Speaker 3: you know, and watched him play since his first catch

602
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Speaker 3: against the Eagles. You know, in the third quarter, I

603
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: wrote it down. It's a game that was played three thousand,

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and five days ago. It's been a while

605
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Speaker 3: since that rookie season. Don't ask me what I was doing.

606
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Speaker 3: I have no idea what I was doing that long ago.

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Speaker 3: Fitting of course that the reception was also on third down,

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Speaker 3: of course, Keenan Am caught a third down for his

609
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Speaker 3: first catch. He's just been the answer to every question

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Speaker 3: this season. You know, where do we go?

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Speaker 2: What do we do?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Who's the gargoyle on mass singer?

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Speaker 3: You know, like he's been the answer to everything so far,

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Speaker 3: and he just gets it done like he's been getting

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Speaker 3: it done.

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Speaker 2: And you don't, you know what.

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Speaker 3: A better way to pass ten thousand and seven or

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Speaker 3: ten thousand yards then with a catch that he had,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what an awesome play, one of the best

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Speaker 3: catches of his career, of course on primetime to get

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Speaker 3: that milestone. And it's just really cool to see him

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Speaker 3: rite ten thousand on that football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what a milestone.

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Speaker 3: And like he'sa said he's going for Antonio Gates next

626
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Speaker 3: and he'll get him next year. So it wasn't like

627
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: the best performance from Keenanon on the season, but he

628
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Speaker 3: picked up four first downs for this team.

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Speaker 2: I was an offense.

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Speaker 3: They only picked up twelve, and he finished the night

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Speaker 3: with eight catches for seventy seven yards, which was good enough, man,

632
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: good enough for a win against a very very good

633
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Speaker 3: corner trio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was That was basically the offense. And you know,

635
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: like I said, the Chargers did just enough on offense

636
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Speaker 1: to get those three drives, you know, a touchdown drive,

637
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: the field goal drive, and the two minute thirty second drive.

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00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Basically was all Keenan. I felt like Austin Heckler had

639
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: some contributions there as well. For sure. For me, like

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Speaker 1: I already talked about the edge rushers, I like I

641
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: could give the could give a game ball to one

642
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: of them, but I'm gonna go with a Lohi Gillman

643
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Speaker 1: in this one. I think there's just some something different

644
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: about him, the way that he's able to, you know,

645
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: spark this Chargers defense. And again, he set that tone

646
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Speaker 1: really early in the game. I was kind of convinced

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Speaker 1: that they would call him for roughing the or for

648
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: personal roughness or whatever the penalty is called on that

649
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: first play, but it just set the tone. You know,

650
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Speaker 1: he strips Garrett Wilson, he recovers Khalil Max fumble and

651
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: nearly returns it for a touchdown. The guy just has

652
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Speaker 1: a way of finding the football and it's incredible to

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Speaker 1: watch him play alongside Derwyn James. I thought that Randon

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Speaker 1: Stay had a great plan for Garrett Wilson, and a

655
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Speaker 1: lot of that was Alohi Gilman being able to move

656
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Speaker 1: around and play as a cover one robber at times

657
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: plays as the one double against Garrett Wilson. So credit

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Speaker 1: to Brandon Stay there as well, but Alohi Gimmon was

659
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Speaker 1: kind of the key from a schematic standpoint against Garrett

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Speaker 1: Wilson from what I was able to watch on tape today.

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Speaker 1: And then again, you know, he forces a turnover, he

662
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: recovers another turnover, has a couple of big hits. So

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Speaker 1: I think Alohi Gillman deserves definitely a shoutout today. So

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be my choice for the game ball.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: And dating back two a few weeks ago when he

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Speaker 3: was healthy again and playing against the Vikings, he's part

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Speaker 3: of the reason they won that game. You know, again,

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Speaker 3: forces a turnover there, should have had another one. It's

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Speaker 3: a whole story about the refs. But the last two

671
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: drives he finishes the game for them, helps finish the

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Speaker 3: game for them against the Bears, hits the receiver when

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Speaker 3: James gets his interception last night.

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Speaker 2: Of course, big.

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Speaker 3: It's I didn't I expected a Lohi Gilman to have

676
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Speaker 3: his quote unquote breakout season. Unfortunately he's been hurt a

677
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Speaker 3: couple of games. I really didn't expect like tone setting

678
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Speaker 3: to be a Lohi Gillman's thing this year.

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Speaker 2: You know, I expected.

680
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: Good plays, good coverage, be sound, be a good running mate.

681
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: You know, but Derwin James is the guy and Michael

682
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Davis is your best corner and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: And sure, but I did not expect tone setter for

684
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Speaker 3: Lohi Gilman and game changer for Lohi Gilman. And that's

685
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Speaker 3: all he's been. He's playing physical and he's changing the game.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, game ball there is is wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fantastic last night, really solid for this team.

689
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Speaker 1: But nights like Monday night, our nights where you really

690
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Speaker 1: see his value shining through. All Right, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a quick break and on the other side here, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a look at the big picture with the

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Speaker 1: Chargers having officially passed the eight game mark, sitting at

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Speaker 1: four and four. So we'll take that quick break and

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Speaker 1: then we'll come back on the other side and have

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705
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Speaker 1: we wanted to have kind of a zoo them out

706
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Speaker 1: conversation about this team sitting at four and four, they're

707
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Speaker 1: officially back in the playoff picture. The AFC is completely

708
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: jumbled up. It's pretty crazy to look at. There are

709
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Speaker 1: thirteen teams that currently have at least four wins, including

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Speaker 1: the Chargers obviously, who sit at four and four. So

711
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams are gonna have their bye

712
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Speaker 1: week coming up, like the Chiefs have. Chiefs and Dolphins

713
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Speaker 1: have there bye week this week, I believe. So. The

714
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Speaker 1: Chargers as it currently stands, sit in tenth place. They

715
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Speaker 1: are half a game back from the seventh seed. However,

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Speaker 1: as it currently stands, what are your thoughts here as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to the playoff picture, because I think there

718
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Speaker 1: are some teams that are really starting to solidify themselves,

719
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Speaker 1: and then there are other teams where it's just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know which version we're gonna get on it

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Speaker 1: given Sunday. So what are your thoughts here about this

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Speaker 1: AFC playoff picture and how the Chargers fit in.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly what I was thinking looking at it. I mean,

724
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs the Ravens and the Jaguars, mostly because of

725
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: their division two those three are going to remain at

726
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: the top. They're going to win, They're going to finish

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Speaker 3: as division winners at.

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Speaker 2: Least it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

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Speaker 3: And they are projected to Chiefs seven and two, raven

730
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Speaker 3: seven and two, Jaguar six and two, and then you

731
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Speaker 3: have you know, could be the Dolphins, could be the Bills.

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Speaker 3: It'll be one of them, and then both of them

733
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Speaker 3: are probably getting in. And that's kind of that to me,

734
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Speaker 3: the big picture and any chance for the Chargers is

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Speaker 3: not the Bengals the seventh seed. I think the Bengals

736
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Speaker 3: are going to ascend and keep moving, you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: not into the division win, but probably like the fifth

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Speaker 3: or sixth seed. To me, it's that it's the Browns

739
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Speaker 3: and the Steelers. Now, the Steelers just keep winning, and

740
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Speaker 3: it's obnoxious that they just keep finding ways to win,

741
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Speaker 3: regardless who's out there. I'm convinced that Mike Tomlin could

742
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: feeld you know, you and me at quarterback and receiver

743
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: and you can figure out who's who.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: I think they would still find a way to win

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Speaker 3: because that's Mike Tomlin. But the Browns that that team

747
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Speaker 3: is the one I think maybe even you referring to

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Speaker 3: in terms of well, I don't know what kind of

749
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: are you really a team that's a playoff contender or not?

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Speaker 3: The defense is absolutely, the offense is pretty hit or miss,

751
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: and unfortunately their record isn't great at five and three,

752
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: and I don't know where they're going to keep winning

753
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: because they have the Ravens next at Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Then they have the Steelers. That's a slug fest.

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Speaker 3: Then you got to go at Denver, then the Rams, okay, fine,

756
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: but then Jaguars Bears we've seen fine. But then at

757
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: Texans at Houston, who are I mean TJ Straut a

758
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: holy cow?

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00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: We just saw that.

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Speaker 3: Then they got to play the Jets and you're not

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Speaker 3: scoring at all, and then you got to play the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: So it's a very very tough remaining rest of the

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Speaker 3: schedule for them in terms of either opponent or just

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Speaker 3: traveling to somewhere. And also that opponent is really good,

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Speaker 3: so that's a tough one for them. I do think

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Speaker 3: the Chargers can get to enough wins that would qualify

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Speaker 3: them in most seasons to make the postseason. I just

768
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Speaker 3: don't know that if it's enough wins to win an

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Speaker 3: tie breakers and to officially get them in this year,

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Speaker 3: they're going to need a little bit of help and

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Speaker 3: a couple more losses in front of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, as it currently stands, the AFC North

773
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Speaker 1: is four of the seven spots, so all four teams

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Speaker 1: are in the playoff picture right now. They haven't really

775
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: played each other very much though, so that's gonna They're

776
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Speaker 1: gonna weed itself out, I think a little bit. The Bengals,

777
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Speaker 1: for what it's worth, to have the most difficult schedule

778
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: in left in the league according to Tankeathon and some

779
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: betting schedules as well. They have to play the Chiefs still,

780
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Speaker 1: they have to play the Ravens still. They have to

781
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Speaker 1: play the Steelers twice, Browns, Jags, and the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: They are only real like easy game that the Bengals

783
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Speaker 1: have is the Colts, and the Colts are at least

784
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: a frisky team, They're a tough out. So the Bengals

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Speaker 1: I think are probably the best team of that conversation,

786
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: that wildcard conversation, But that schedule is ridiculously tough, Like

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Speaker 1: that's that's a gauntlet. The Browns, like you mentioned, have

788
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: a tough schedule. The Steelers actually have the twenty second

789
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: easiest schedule remaining. They still play the Cardinals, the Patriots,

790
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Speaker 1: the Packers, and the Colts. So that to me is

791
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: an interesting team. And you mentioned CJ. Stroud they get

792
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: to play it's one of the easier schedules too. They

793
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: get to play the Cardinals, they have two games left

794
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: against the Titans, they play the Broncos and the Colts.

795
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Speaker 1: You know they'll they'll have a tough time against the

796
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: Jets and the Bengals and the Browns, but they don't

797
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: have a super difficult schedule. So the Chargers, it really

798
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: becomes a matter of the other AFC teams that you

799
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: have left on your schedule and making sure that you

800
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: are winning those games. So the Chargers are right in

801
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack from a strength of schedule standpoint.

802
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: But you have some of these games against AFC teams

803
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Speaker 1: that you absolutely have to win, Like you definitely have

804
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: to beat the Bills, you definitely have to be the Raiders. Again,

805
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders are still kind of have around the playoff picture.

806
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of confidence in this team.

807
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Beating the Ravens because I think I think the Ravens

808
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: are the best team in the league right now. But

809
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Speaker 1: those other AFC teams, you got to make sure you

810
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: win and you get some of these tie Reker advantages,

811
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Speaker 1: and they got one on Monday Night against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They have to keep doing that going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the rest of the schedule is really set up

814
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Speaker 3: for them to Honestly, if you just look at the

815
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Speaker 3: Vegas odds or whatever and say when are the Chargers favored,

816
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: when are they projected to win, versus when are they

817
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Speaker 3: projected to lose, it's really set up where, yeah, that's

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00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: that looks like nine to eight, right, So if I

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Speaker 3: had to guess they're projected to lose against Detroit, the Ravens, Buffalo,

820
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Speaker 3: Kansas City, that certain wouldn't surprise me, and I don't

821
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Speaker 3: think of a surprise anybody if they were, and they're

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Speaker 3: projected to win then against Green Bay, New England, Denver, Vegas,

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Speaker 3: and then Denver again. So I think that if you

824
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Speaker 3: just play out the games like they're sort of expected,

825
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: the Charges can go nine to eight. It's like what

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Speaker 3: you said, though, they need to find one more win

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Speaker 3: in there against one of these AFC opponents. To really

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Speaker 3: make it in, you got to get a tiebreaker, and

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Speaker 3: obviously you're gonna need ten wins unless something just goes

830
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: crazy for the rest of the AFC. But so you're

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Speaker 3: gonna have to beat Kansas City, You're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: beat Buffalo. Maybe you know, one of those two games

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00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: again Baltimore, like I said, like you said, I think

834
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: they are the best team. They certainly look like it,

835
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: and they have recently. And the March is playing out

836
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: of his mind and that's that's a two thousands classic

837
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: Ravens defense. So that's that's a heck of a team.

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Speaker 3: So really, those those two games, if they can beat Baltimore, great,

839
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Speaker 3: But you gotta beat Buffalo. You gotta beat Kansas City.

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 3: But I mean, you beat Detroit this week, and that's

841
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 3: a game that kind of feels like a coin toss,

842
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: will see. But you win that one, I think you're

843
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: feeling better about the rest of the season because again,

844
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Speaker 3: the rest of the games or games that you're you

845
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: should win, like Green Bay, New England, Denver, Vegas, Denver,

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Speaker 3: are they going.

847
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Speaker 2: To be easy.

848
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Speaker 3: No, you have to exercise a lot of demons to

849
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 3: win those games. At Denver, at New England even recently

850
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: for this regime in Vegas like that is, those are

851
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: rough places historically for the Chargers, either long term or

852
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: more recent. So I think they'll win those games, but

853
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: like you said, they got they got to find one

854
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: more win in there at least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to take care of business against the

856
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: teams that you should beat. For what it's worth. The

857
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: Bills game is really interesting to me. You know, obviously

858
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen, and Josh Allen is able, is

859
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: very capable of going nuclear at any moment. We've seen

860
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: that time and time again. The Bills from a success

861
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: rate and from a down to down basis, they're one

862
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: of the best offenses in the league. Josh Allen is

863
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: tend to have the occasional turnover as well, but that

864
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: defense has had so many injuries. Nate Tices pointed this

865
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Speaker 1: out earlier. They're actually twenty eighth in the league from

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Speaker 1: a success rate standpoint and an EPA per play standpoint,

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Speaker 1: since Matt Mulano specifically went down with injury. So the

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Speaker 1: Bills defense, which I think entered the season is like

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Speaker 1: a legitimately unit that legitimately had the chance to be

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Speaker 1: a top five unit in the league right now, they're

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Speaker 1: more of a bottom five unit in the league. So

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Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna have to shoot out the rest

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Speaker 1: of their games potentially. You look at their schedule specifically,

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Speaker 1: I just had it in front of me. They have

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Speaker 1: the fourth most difficult schedule remaining. They still have to

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Speaker 1: play the Eagles, they have to play the Dolphins again,

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Speaker 1: they play the Cowboys, they play the Jets again, they

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Speaker 1: play the Chiefs. There's not a lot of easy left

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Speaker 1: on the bill schedule, and the way their defense is struggling,

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Speaker 1: that is a team that I could see kind of

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Speaker 1: working their way out of the playoff picture at some point,

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers beating them would be huge. But again,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is, for my money, the second best quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league and is able to go nuclear at

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Speaker 1: any moment. So that's a game that I think Chargers

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Speaker 1: fans should be circling as kind of that's the inflection point.

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Speaker 1: That's like the game that if they win, they can

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Speaker 1: get into the playoff picture and like cement their status

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Speaker 1: as a playoff team because I think they have some

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Speaker 1: of these other games that they can win, and like

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Speaker 1: beating the Lions would be huge. But if everything kind

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Speaker 1: of goes how we think and they beat the Bills,

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Speaker 1: that's when I think we'll start to see that, hey man,

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Speaker 1: like this team is for real and they can really

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Speaker 1: make some noise in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills, it's unfortunate, but every time I watch them,

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Speaker 3: it's Okay, this player is out, this player went down,

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Speaker 3: this player went down, and it's just unfortunately chipping away

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Speaker 3: at their ability to be a stronger contender. And it

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Speaker 3: feels like, especially watching them against the Bengals, like, now,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals are a very good team, so that's understandable,

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Speaker 3: but it just feels like their momentum is starting to

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Speaker 3: slip and you can't regain that if you're turning the

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Speaker 3: ball over and you're injured. I mean, those are two

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Speaker 3: awful things that you can't do. And so unfortunately, it

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Speaker 3: just seems like, you know, the Chargers just need to

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Speaker 3: survive when the games are supposed to maybe steal one,

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Speaker 3: but just survive, be healthy, keep momentum going until that game.

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Speaker 3: And if you can do that, and if the Bills

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Speaker 3: are trending downward and you steal that game, yeah again

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Speaker 3: that that would be a huge one.

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Speaker 2: And you can see on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I will potentially be at that game,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully it should be a lot of fun. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Monday Night was huge. You know, the Chargers have been

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Speaker 1: able to get back into the playoff picture. You beat

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Speaker 1: a really good Jets team, a defense that is just outstanding.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers playoff odds have increased by like twenty percent

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Speaker 1: after winning that game. So again, that was a huge

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Speaker 1: win on Monday Night football. The Chargers defense was fantastic,

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Speaker 1: the special teams was awesome as well. The offense still

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Speaker 1: a bit of a work in progress, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll see some better days ahead in the future. All right, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: any other thoughts here before we head out.

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Speaker 3: Just keep winning boys, You're doing great, keep at it.

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Speaker 3: See you next week after a win.

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, there we go, There we go, all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the sport as always, make sure like the like

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Speaker 1: the videos, comment here on the channel, subscribe all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. We do really appreciate it. Appreciate Greg Kim

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Speaker 1: for producing and uh as always built up. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time. M mmmmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm h m hmm.