WEBVTT - How Thoroughbred Horses Work 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.920 Brought to you by the Reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:17.759 It's ready, are you hey? And welcome to the podcast. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.600 I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Nice. That's 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.400 a pretty good horse. Was that a Mayor Philly whole 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:37.320 yearling gelding? Cole Stallion? Do you know a lot more 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.000 about horses? After reading? I do? And I was gonna 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.680 ask you if we could open up with a little 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.600 definition definitions with Chuck and Josh. I think we should, 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.319 But do your do your thing first and then we'll 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.479 do that. Just sometimes just going to mention Uncle Mo. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.360 Al right here, Uncle Mo is the favorite at the 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.880 upcoming Breeders Cup by the time this comes out, the 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.760 Breeders couple of Come and Gone, because it's November four 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.440 and five, which is the weekend it is, isn't it? Um? 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.280 And Uncle Mo is the favorite for the Breeders Cup, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.520 the real one because you know, like for something like 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.840 a Breeders Cup, and it's four or five, you know, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.120 the fourth and fifth, So two days, um, they're gonna 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.240 have like fifty races because on a race day there's 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.959 like usually like ten to thirteen, so they probably have. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.880 And the big one is the last one in this case, 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.120 and the Breeders Cup is gonna be at Churchill Churchill 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.640 Downs in Kentucky where they hold a Kentucky Derby and 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:36.800 Uncle Mos favorite. He's five to choice by oddsmaker Mike Battellia, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.800 who had not heard of until I read this article 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.120 about Uncle Mo. But he scratched. I was gonna see 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.720 him at the Kentucky Derby and he scratched with a 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.880 liver problem, so he didn't make it to post. And 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.640 I can't remember. I think Animal Kingdom ended up winning. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.400 But I went to the Kentucky Derby, you mean I did, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.280 And then we went to the Preakness, and after that 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.960 I was like, I have to do or about this. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.200 So I came back and started researching and wrote this 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.200 article how Thoroughbreds work. And then and now the next 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.040 horse race you go to, you will be the most 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.359 obnoxious person there. No, I'll keep my mouth. I bet 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.000 a lot of people know a lot, and I bet 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.360 a lot of people know nothing. Yeah well, were at 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.960 the big ones like that? Yeah you well, yeah you you. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.000 I would say most of the people there know nothing 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.919 at the big ones because it's just filled with tourists, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.799 and for some people it's like, hey, it's I come 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.480 here every day. It's just another race day. Get out 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.920 of here. Right. But ultimately, and because of Perry Muto 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:42.360 mew too well, betting interesting, it's what it's Perry Perry mutel, 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.720 that's what it is. But it's a French word. Um. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.000 Your odds go up and down depending on how many 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.200 other people are betting on a horse or betting against 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.920 it or whatever. So I imagine if you are like 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.120 just one of those people where the Kentucky Derby is 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.240 just another race day for you, you hate that day, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.280 the first Saturday in May, you probably skip it. Maybe 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.640 you got you got a line, well yeah, true, Yeah, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.040 this mutter is a mutter. Yeah. So let's let's do 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.519 your definition, chuck, all right. A cult is a male 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.800 under five years old. Philly is a female under five 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.119 years old, right, but from two age two to age five, 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.240 the yearling is either one or two years old. Okay. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:27.119 A foal is newborn yeah, correct, and it's also over 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.560 being folds being born right. A sire is the father, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.080 which is a stallion yep. Stallion is an adult male 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.560 horse over five years old, but also a stud if 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.560 he's doing that for money or pere or is he 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.040 a stud no matter what, he's a stud, no matter what. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.160 That's what I like to think. And then the damn 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.720 the d A m is the female, which is a mayor, right, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.440 and she is a breeder over five and she produces 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.960 a If she produces a female, it's a broodmare, or 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.360 she a brood mayor she's a brood mare. So a 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.920 brood mare and a stud are one and the same, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.720 but different breeds, different genders, genders, yes, yes, but they 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.280 are like it's that's all the act of doing it. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.840 After that, when reproduction takes over, they become a sire 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.240 in a damn, okay, in relation to the full and 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.800 a pony is just a small horse which has very 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.000 disappointing Yeah, well unless you meet one, then you're like, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.240 I'm not at all disappointed by this Shetland pony. Shetland 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.080 ponies are awesome, all right, So that'll that'll help you 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.200 out here going through this excellent article. I might add, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.279 thank you, thank you, it's very good. Well, I really 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.039 like thoroughbred horses are really interesting. They're probably new and 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.279 it's one of those that if you don't know anything 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.159 about something. You can sit down in thirty minutes and 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.200 read this and know a lot about something you never 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.159 kne anything about, which is our goal. Yeah, alright, so 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.039 let's go. Well, Um, like I said, though, breds are 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.719 pretty new. They just came about within the last like 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.560 three hundred or so years, Like they're an entirely new breed. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.719 You know that. Well, you want to talk about the 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.880 beginning of the uh yeah, the history of Thoroughbreds by 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:23.799 Josh Clark. Every thoroughbred alive comes from one of three bloodlines, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:29.240 which is really remarkable. Um. The well, let's here, you 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:30.960 give me a little background, then we'll talk about the 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:35.520 horses themselves. So, uh, the this breed has three foundation 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.679 sires is what they're called. And they're so they're three 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.440 stallions that all belong to the Oriental group, and the 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:48.840 Oriental group are Turks, Barbs and Arabians. Very fast, like 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.720 these are the ones that you see in Lawrence of 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:56.480 Arabia haulling through the desert. Exactly. Very muscular and fast, yeah, exactly, Um, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.400 and fairly light to write, like, yeah, I used to 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.359 Like I was like, how do you want me to 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:07.159 finish that? Yes, we like them. Um. The Arabians for 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.240 at least a couple of thousand years have been prized 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:17.040 for their quickness and their courage. They're very courageous horses, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:22.440 so they war horses. They serve as really good war horses. Yeah. Um. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.080 And because they were quick and because Bedouins Shake used 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.799 to like to make money however however he could, including wagers, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.560 they would be raced in match racism, match races just 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:39.760 one horse against one horse. Um and uh. And about 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:46.400 the seventeenth eighteenth century, the late seventeenth early eighteenth century, 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.800 three sires arrived in England and those became the foundation 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.159 sires for the thoroughbread Beat breed. Each one has a 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.320 really cool story. If you ask me, I agree. In 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:02.599 Captain Robert by Bayerley captured a Turk, very fine looking 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.839 horse from the Turkoman horse in the Middle East, right, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.520 and the that's part of the Oriental group, the Turk, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.960 the Turkoman. That's it's an Oriental horse. Yeah, these are 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.560 all Oriental horses, right. And they he captured this in 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.080 a in a battle in Hungary and it was like, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.960 you know what, this horse is really fast and it's 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.800 really brave. I'm taking it back to England, and he did, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.080 and UH. That was number one. Number two was the 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:32.480 Byerly Turk UH. And this was a stolen barb, another 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:37.360 Oriental obviously called the Darley Barb or the Darly Arabian UH, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.080 purchased by Thomas Darley and he was a diplomat to 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.920 Syria and he said, Hey, I love that four year 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.640 old colt Mr Bedouin Shake, and so I'd like to 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.920 purchase from you. And then the shake renigged and he said, well, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.560 I'm gonna go steal it from you then if you're 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.680 not gonna give me the horse. And in in Darley's 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.440 um defense, I believe he had paid for it already, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.160 so just outright theft he was. He was claiming the 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.200 horse he he purchased. He paid somebody to go steal it, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.320 and they smuggled it out through Turkey back to England, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.040 and that became the Direly Barb. So now the Diarly 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.720 Barb is there. And then the third one was a 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.680 little less interesting, but sort of interesting in an underdog 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.800 sort of way and a Dickenzie sort of way exactly 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.320 the Go Dolphin Arabian from Yemen and UH was given 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.880 to the King of France along with three other horses 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.920 and seventeen twenty four. I'm sorry he was born in 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.440 seventeen and being the King of France, he said, I 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.600 shall set them free, and set these horses free. It 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.679 ends up being a cart horse in Paris, which is 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.840 kind of cool when you think about it, that this 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.840 was like one of the three sires and uh eventually 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.320 was was bought and sold and bought and sold until 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.400 it was finally purchased by the second Earl of Godolphin 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.920 in seventeen thirty three. And I guess that must have 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.880 been a heck of a horse by that time. Yes, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.920 it had seen the ups in the down. And so 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:07.040 the these three horses were bred with English mayors um 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.600 and the the I guess the English horse that they 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.280 were bred with was a lot bigger, a lot stronger, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.199 but a lot slower. And so you took these oriental 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.920 group horses and these English horses, uh, English draft horses 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.439 maybe even, and what you had was a very strong, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:29.240 muscular but extremely quick horse, which was the Thoroughbred breed, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.240 don't that And so it's the three hundred year old 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.000 breed of animal, which is really cool, and that that 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.920 kind of um. It enlightens us to a characteristic of 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.840 the breed that from the very beginning, it's it's interactive 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.920 with humans, like it owes its origin to human interaction. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.960 What you get with the thoroughbred, Josh, if you want 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.600 to throw down a couple of hundred bucks on one, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.240 can you get a third bread for two hundred bucks? Can? 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.559 You could? But you'd have to stand outside of the 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:08.800 slaughterhouse and just offer. Okay, spoiler alert, you're gonna get 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.959 a horse that is weighs about a thousand pounds, very 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:16.360 light and fast light. Bones will be sixteen hands, which 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.760 is uh, a hand is four inches what you just said, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.880 So that's sixty four inches about years old, six inches 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:28.600 sixty four sixty four inches. They'll live to be about 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.000 twenty five. They can take about a hundred and fifty 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:36.160 strides per minute and race up to an over forty. Yeah, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.240 that's a cooking horse. And we should say that a 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.800 horse is measured from the ground to its withers, which 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.959 is a ridge right behind the shoulders, smithers withers. And 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.880 you said that they can run forty miles an hour. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.679 You know why they can run forty miles an hour? 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.200 Because of its stride length. Let's talk about his stride length. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.280 It's pretty remarkable. Uh. The average stride length of a 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:04.280 thoroughbred horse is twenty ft. Okay, that's long. So you 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.240 say you're subar U is fifteen ft long super outback. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.360 So a stride length is the distance between let's say, um, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.040 the moment the right hoof, right front hoof, any hoof. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.920 But let's say the right front hoof touches the ground 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.120 to the to the next point where that same hoof, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.160 that say, the right hoof touches the ground again. So 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.400 on a thirdbred and average thoroughbred horse, it's twenty ft. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.520 That's very long, longer than a Subaru wagon. Um. And 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.320 then some other horses have had even longer stride lengths 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.520 like Man of War who raced and I think, um, 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.640 he had a stride length of twenty eight ft when 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.959 he was eight and a half meters. That's that's really 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:54.960 really long. Um. And he was taller too, I guess, huh, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.679 he was a very tall horse. And also, so you've 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.880 got a stride length of twenty ft right. Um. They 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.680 can run up to a hundred and fifty strides a minute, 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.360 which means they can go up to forty. But they 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.880 can do this for like over a mile, which is 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.320 amazing when the reason that they can do this for 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.959 over a mile is because they're freaks of nature. As 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.600 far as breeds go, breeds of animal go, right they are. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.520 They have very special internal organs, specifically a very large 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.600 heart and a very efficient spleen. So while this heart 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.679 is able to pump out seventy i'm sorry, circulate seventy 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.640 five gallons of blood a minute when running, that's a 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.600 lot of blood. The spleen all all of a sudden says, 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.120 you know what, I'm gonna kick it into turbo and 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.840 I'm gonna, you know, get a bunch of oxygen rich 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.679 blood cells and shoot them all over the blood stream. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.199 And in the end it's going to increase the total 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:54.040 red blood cell count thirty five to six total blood volume. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.280 So the red blood cell count or percentage is normally 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.520 thirty five while it's running, goes up to sixty. So 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.600 it's just delivering oxygen to every part of the running machine. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.080 And the third bread has a couple of other unique 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.240 characteristics as far as it's run goes. All horses can 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.560 only breathe through their nose. Did you know that? Okay, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.360 I did not until I wrote this article. Um. And 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.920 then they breathe in while their legs are extending, and 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.560 then they exhale well when the legs come together on 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.840 the ground, so it acts like a bellows. So they're 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.079 breathing in tons of oxygen very efficiently. And then its 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.320 legs do something pretty spectacular. Well, its neck does first. Yeah, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.600 the neck moves in unison with the front legs, which 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.120 is gonna just give you more propulsion. You need to 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.800 explain the rear hind legs. Okay, So Chuck and I 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.720 had a little in atypical discussion because we normally don't 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:52.200 discuss things beforehand. But um, that the the back legs 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.439 of a thoroughbred create a spring like motion. They basically 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.440 pump up and down right, which gives the horse a 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:04.080 lot of rust. It produces a lot of gs. Um. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.760 Chuck showed me a video, the very same video I 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.640 looked at to make sure that I knew what I 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.280 was talking about when I read that, and then you 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:17.040 know wrote it. Um that it's not the legs necessarily 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.520 just staying in like a stiff up and down motion. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:25.280 It's the the overall motion that is being created by 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:31.360 the legs, the spring like back legs, springing, springing. What 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.080 I noted about behind legs is that they stay almost 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:40.440 completely straight, so it's just like buying, buying, buying, springing, 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.960 springing down, springing down. However, you look at the back 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.360 legs create like a spring like motion very much that 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.920 propels the horse forward. So that's why thorerbreads are so 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.880 prized for racing. That's right, because they take all the 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:01.560 speed and the agility of the Arabian and the strength 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.480 and endurance of the English mayors that they were bred with, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.880 and you've got the Thoroughbreds had a very special horse. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.960 Uh Josh. It wasn't just those three, as you point out, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.240 that created the whole bloodline. There was a lot of 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.960 hanky panky going on with Oriental group horses that were 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.480 brought over during wartime from the Middle East, and they 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.200 really helped the bloodline out obviously, but a lot of 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.560 them were lost to history because maybe they had only 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.040 female daughters, and that means that's the end of you, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.720 or at least your bloodline, or maybe you got it 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.920 on with a different breed and that means you're a dirty, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.400 dirty horse now, and you can't be counted as a 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.840 Thoroughbred any longer. You could be, but you're going to 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.400 be even even if they say all right, fine, I'll 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.360 go back to the Thoroughbred, They're like, Nope, you did 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.480 it with that other kind of horse, so you're done. No, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:16:00.240 I don't think so, oh what, No, it's just your offspring. Okay. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.440 So like if if the horse never made it with 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.760 anything but non thoroughbreds, then it's bloodlines lost. I thought 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:13.560 you were saying that if out, um, well that's good 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.400 to know because I thought that was a little harsh. Yeah. No, 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.760 it's not like that. But all of that is based 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.840 on a decision that was made in sevente by a 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.720 guy named James Weatherbee who created this thing called the 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.120 General Stud Book, and that is that all thoroughbreds are 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.360 traced through the sire, so they can be traced back 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.200 through the to the three and all thoroughbreds alive today 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.240 can be traced back to those three foundations sires. And 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.760 this General Stud Book is a closed registry, meaning only 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.600 Thoroughbred full Thoroughbred horses that are born to full Thoroughbred 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.400 parents can be included in this General Stud book, that's right, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.600 and more than a hundred thousand or fold worldwide every year, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.720 and so that's a lot of horses to keep track 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.800 of and trace their lineage. Although once you have it 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.280 done the first time, like that General stud Book serves 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.680 as the mother ship of which all other stud books 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.280 are based. So you've got the foundation there you do, 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.040 so it's not like you have to keep tracing back 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.639 to the original three. No, once you can link it 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.119 up to say the last one in the in the 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.240 General stud Book exactly, it's last ancestor then it takes 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.720 over from there. So thank you. Weather Bees. Well yeah, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.879 well they still do that. The weather Bees Limited is 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.080 still an incorporated company in the UK. I thot they 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.320 have a nice box there at Churchill Down. Oh yeah 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.800 they do, or anywhere anywhere, um they so yeah. James 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.680 Weatherby in se was actually the second weather be his 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:43.160 uncle um clem no also James. He was the first 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.879 secretary of the Jockey Club and uh he was hired 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.480 to keep track of purses, Chuck, what's a purse? Well, 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.840 a purse. A purse is the winnings, the the total 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.520 u amount of money that a horse can win for 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.600 its owner. I should say, horses traditionally don't get to 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.760 keep the money themselves. It goes to the owners, who 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.879 in turn pay the jockeys and all those other people. Um. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:15.520 But the the the first James Weatherby was hired in 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:22.240 seventeent um to basically keep the books for the jockey club. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.520 So the weather Bees are like a family, a long 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.440 line of accountants basically. And the reason why the first 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.960 Jeames Weatherby was hired was because he, um, he was 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.520 hanging around at a time when they really needed to 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.480 start keeping track of the incredible sums of money that 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.239 were being bet on these races. Yeah, what happened was 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.760 they you know, as soon as two rich people get 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.960 something fast, they're gonna want to race against each other. 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.119 And so that's what happened. And they were just like, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.920 let me race my horse against yours. And then that 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.480 became like, well, let's have a few races, and let's 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.480 add even more horses, and horse racing very organically. Thoroughbred 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.760 racing was very organically. And like you said, then once 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.080 things are racing, some dude's gonna want to bet and 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.640 then all of a sudden, it's a huge cottage industry 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.280 that the weather Bees were put in charge of Yeah, exactly. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.040 Back in seventeen seventy. When he was hired, the purses 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.400 were reaching something like two thousand pounds. There's a lot, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.080 a lot. I didn't see a conversion for today's dollars, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.840 but it's a lot of pounds. It's a lot. So 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.160 they hired the weather Bees and um, ultimately James Weatherby 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.240 the younger created the General Stubb Book, which, like you said, 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.720 is like the central stud book for all the others. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.520 America has its own. Um, the American stud Book goes 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:45.360 back to eighteen sixty eight, and U Thoroughbreds in America 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:50.520 go back far, far, um earlier than that. Thirty I 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.680 think was the first one. Yeah, bull Rock, which is 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.960 a pretty cool name as a heck of stallion. Yeah, 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.320 Bull bull Rock. So Bull Rock was here, and apparently 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.200 there was a horse racing on Long Island as far 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:08.040 back as the late seventeenth century. Yeah, but thoroughbred's bloodlines 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.000 are and are kept such such exact records are kept 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.840 of the bloodlines that they basically said, you guys had 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.160 a civil war, We're not sure of your records any longer. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.919 Start over, So the American stud Book goes back to 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.360 eighteen sixty eight, and that's it. It's the as far 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.400 as anybody's concerned, the beginning of thoroughbred horses in America. Yeah, 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.440 and then the in nineteen thirteen, the Jockey Club passed 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.360 the Jersey Act, which basically said a lot of these 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.280 American horses don't count because unless you're in these other books, 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.960 then you can prove that. Then uh, then your s 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.399 o L right, if your parents don't show up in 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:49.399 other general stud books that were previously published, then whatever. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.040 And since there was a break in the records, a 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.639 lot of American horses couldn't get in there, it's right 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.359 until nineteen nine, and they felt bad for them and said, 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.199 you know what, we're gonna let you in and year 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.880 now in the study. So if the stud book says 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.440 who who's in and who's out, and the Jockey Club 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.680 controls the stud book, that means that the Jockey Club 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:15.960 basically defines what a thoroughbred horses. And when I say basically, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.960 I mean in every single sense of the word. So color, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:25.200 there's nine colors cover everything, though, don't they like what colors? 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.400 Are horses that aren't listed? Is what I wondered. Any 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:33.320 kind of neon is is left out. They also determine 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.560 whether the name is appropriate, which, uh, you know, you've 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.879 seen some pretty silly horse names, but you notice that 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.600 you've never seen one that was a slur, like a 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:47.000 Rachel slur, social slur. Never one that's offensive. Uh, never 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.800 one that was named after someone famous, unless they said, hey, 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.760 you should name this after me the w C. Fields. 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.800 Well know, if you're if they're alive. Still, I thought 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.159 they had to have consent you of a living famous person. 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:05.159 I think you can't get interesting, not without reanimation. Oh, 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.040 I just thought like the state could give consenters. But 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.879 I think I think I remember seeing that part of 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.000 the rules if it's a live person interesting Uh, And 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.360 it cannot the name cannot consist of entirely of numbers, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.920 which makes sense, I guess. But and you can also 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.840 name like um, you can't name it after another winning 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:29.520 horse traditionally, unless it's like a play on it, like 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:34.640 seed biscuit was a son of like hard tack, I think, 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.119 which does that type of bread that sailors eight? But 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.320 could you name one like tea biscuit? You could, but 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.640 I'll bet everybody think you're a jeer tea biscuit nine 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.760 O nine sevent eight nine four. Well, and it says 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.760 the Jockey club has the final authority, so they might 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.600 just shut that down on you know, hinkiness alone. Yeah, 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.520 and they can say you name your horse whatever you want, 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.520 but it's not coming in the register. And you're like, okay, 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.479 al right, right, all right, all right, I'll let you. 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.040 All right, Josh, we're talking about purses and it is 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.639 big money now in the US alone, in two thousand 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.119 and ten, the gross purses UH total more than a 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:13.600 billion dollars. That was actually a pretty big decline. Well 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.840 not big, but there was, there was. It was worth 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.520 more even earlier, like two five was a huge peak 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.000 for purses in the US for horse racing. Yeah, well 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:24.879 that means if there's a lot of money to be 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:26.840 one as a horse owner, that means there's a lot 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.000 of money to be made as a horse owner and 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.880 paid as a horse owner. It's very expensive. In fact, 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.960 I looked into this when I remember when I wrote 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:39.359 that article on unusual investments for Sunny Paper, one of 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:43.800 them was investing in horses and it didn't seem like 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.520