1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the Reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: It's ready, are you hey? And welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Nice. That's 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: a pretty good horse. Was that a Mayor Philly whole 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: yearling gelding? Cole Stallion? Do you know a lot more 6 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: about horses? After reading? I do? And I was gonna 7 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: ask you if we could open up with a little 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: definition definitions with Chuck and Josh. I think we should, 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: But do your do your thing first and then we'll 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: do that. Just sometimes just going to mention Uncle Mo. 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Al right here, Uncle Mo is the favorite at the 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: upcoming Breeders Cup by the time this comes out, the 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Breeders couple of Come and Gone, because it's November four 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: and five, which is the weekend it is, isn't it? Um? 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: And Uncle Mo is the favorite for the Breeders Cup, 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: the real one because you know, like for something like 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: a Breeders Cup, and it's four or five, you know, 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth, So two days, um, they're gonna 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: have like fifty races because on a race day there's 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: like usually like ten to thirteen, so they probably have. 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: And the big one is the last one in this case, 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: and the Breeders Cup is gonna be at Churchill Churchill 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Downs in Kentucky where they hold a Kentucky Derby and 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Uncle Mos favorite. He's five to choice by oddsmaker Mike Battellia, 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: who had not heard of until I read this article 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: about Uncle Mo. But he scratched. I was gonna see 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: him at the Kentucky Derby and he scratched with a 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: liver problem, so he didn't make it to post. And 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think Animal Kingdom ended up winning. 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: But I went to the Kentucky Derby, you mean I did, 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: And then we went to the Preakness, and after that 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I have to do or about this. 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: So I came back and started researching and wrote this 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: article how Thoroughbreds work. And then and now the next 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: horse race you go to, you will be the most 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: obnoxious person there. No, I'll keep my mouth. I bet 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people know a lot, and I bet 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people know nothing. Yeah well, were at 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: the big ones like that? Yeah you well, yeah you you. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I would say most of the people there know nothing 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: at the big ones because it's just filled with tourists, 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: and for some people it's like, hey, it's I come 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: here every day. It's just another race day. Get out 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: of here. Right. But ultimately, and because of Perry Muto 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: mew too well, betting interesting, it's what it's Perry Perry mutel, 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: that's what it is. But it's a French word. Um. 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Your odds go up and down depending on how many 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: other people are betting on a horse or betting against 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: it or whatever. So I imagine if you are like 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: just one of those people where the Kentucky Derby is 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: just another race day for you, you hate that day, 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the first Saturday in May, you probably skip it. Maybe 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: you got you got a line, well yeah, true, Yeah, 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: this mutter is a mutter. Yeah. So let's let's do 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: your definition, chuck, all right. A cult is a male 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: under five years old. Philly is a female under five 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: years old, right, but from two age two to age five, 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: the yearling is either one or two years old. Okay. 59 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: A foal is newborn yeah, correct, and it's also over 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: being folds being born right. A sire is the father, 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: which is a stallion yep. Stallion is an adult male 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: horse over five years old, but also a stud if 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: he's doing that for money or pere or is he 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: a stud no matter what, he's a stud, no matter what. 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: That's what I like to think. And then the damn 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: the d A m is the female, which is a mayor, right, 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: and she is a breeder over five and she produces 68 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: a If she produces a female, it's a broodmare, or 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: she a brood mayor she's a brood mare. So a 70 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: brood mare and a stud are one and the same, 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: but different breeds, different genders, genders, yes, yes, but they 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: are like it's that's all the act of doing it. 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: After that, when reproduction takes over, they become a sire 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: in a damn, okay, in relation to the full and 75 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: a pony is just a small horse which has very 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: disappointing Yeah, well unless you meet one, then you're like, 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm not at all disappointed by this Shetland pony. Shetland 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: ponies are awesome, all right, So that'll that'll help you 79 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: out here going through this excellent article. I might add, 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, it's very good. Well, I really 81 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: like thoroughbred horses are really interesting. They're probably new and 82 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: it's one of those that if you don't know anything 83 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: about something. You can sit down in thirty minutes and 84 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: read this and know a lot about something you never 85 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: kne anything about, which is our goal. Yeah, alright, so 86 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: let's go. Well, Um, like I said, though, breds are 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: pretty new. They just came about within the last like 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: three hundred or so years, Like they're an entirely new breed. 89 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: You know that. Well, you want to talk about the 90 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: beginning of the uh yeah, the history of Thoroughbreds by 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: Josh Clark. Every thoroughbred alive comes from one of three bloodlines, 92 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: which is really remarkable. Um. The well, let's here, you 93 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: give me a little background, then we'll talk about the 94 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: horses themselves. So, uh, the this breed has three foundation 95 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: sires is what they're called. And they're so they're three 96 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: stallions that all belong to the Oriental group, and the 97 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: Oriental group are Turks, Barbs and Arabians. Very fast, like 98 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: these are the ones that you see in Lawrence of 99 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: Arabia haulling through the desert. Exactly. Very muscular and fast, yeah, exactly, Um, 100 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: and fairly light to write, like, yeah, I used to 101 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: Like I was like, how do you want me to 102 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: finish that? Yes, we like them. Um. The Arabians for 103 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: at least a couple of thousand years have been prized 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: for their quickness and their courage. They're very courageous horses, 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: so they war horses. They serve as really good war horses. Yeah. Um. 106 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: And because they were quick and because Bedouins Shake used 107 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: to like to make money however however he could, including wagers, 108 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: they would be raced in match racism, match races just 109 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: one horse against one horse. Um and uh. And about 110 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the seventeenth eighteenth century, the late seventeenth early eighteenth century, 111 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: three sires arrived in England and those became the foundation 112 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: sires for the thoroughbread Beat breed. Each one has a 113 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: really cool story. If you ask me, I agree. In 114 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: Captain Robert by Bayerley captured a Turk, very fine looking 115 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: horse from the Turkoman horse in the Middle East, right, 116 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: and the that's part of the Oriental group, the Turk, 117 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: the Turkoman. That's it's an Oriental horse. Yeah, these are 118 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: all Oriental horses, right. And they he captured this in 119 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: a in a battle in Hungary and it was like, 120 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: you know what, this horse is really fast and it's 121 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: really brave. I'm taking it back to England, and he did, 122 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: and UH. That was number one. Number two was the 123 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Byerly Turk UH. And this was a stolen barb, another 124 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Oriental obviously called the Darley Barb or the Darly Arabian UH, 125 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: purchased by Thomas Darley and he was a diplomat to 126 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Syria and he said, Hey, I love that four year 127 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: old colt Mr Bedouin Shake, and so I'd like to 128 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: purchase from you. And then the shake renigged and he said, well, 129 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go steal it from you then if you're 130 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: not gonna give me the horse. And in in Darley's 131 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: um defense, I believe he had paid for it already, 132 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: so just outright theft he was. He was claiming the 133 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: horse he he purchased. He paid somebody to go steal it, 134 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: and they smuggled it out through Turkey back to England, 135 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: and that became the Direly Barb. So now the Diarly 136 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Barb is there. And then the third one was a 137 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: little less interesting, but sort of interesting in an underdog 138 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: sort of way and a Dickenzie sort of way exactly 139 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: the Go Dolphin Arabian from Yemen and UH was given 140 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: to the King of France along with three other horses 141 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: and seventeen twenty four. I'm sorry he was born in 142 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: seventeen and being the King of France, he said, I 143 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: shall set them free, and set these horses free. It 144 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: ends up being a cart horse in Paris, which is 145 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: kind of cool when you think about it, that this 146 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: was like one of the three sires and uh eventually 147 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: was was bought and sold and bought and sold until 148 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: it was finally purchased by the second Earl of Godolphin 149 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: in seventeen thirty three. And I guess that must have 150 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: been a heck of a horse by that time. Yes, 151 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: it had seen the ups in the down. And so 152 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: the these three horses were bred with English mayors um 153 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: and the the I guess the English horse that they 154 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: were bred with was a lot bigger, a lot stronger, 155 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: but a lot slower. And so you took these oriental 156 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: group horses and these English horses, uh, English draft horses 157 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: maybe even, and what you had was a very strong, 158 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: muscular but extremely quick horse, which was the Thoroughbred breed, 159 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: don't that And so it's the three hundred year old 160 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: breed of animal, which is really cool, and that that 161 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: kind of um. It enlightens us to a characteristic of 162 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: the breed that from the very beginning, it's it's interactive 163 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: with humans, like it owes its origin to human interaction. 164 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: What you get with the thoroughbred, Josh, if you want 165 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: to throw down a couple of hundred bucks on one, 166 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: can you get a third bread for two hundred bucks? Can? 167 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: You could? But you'd have to stand outside of the 168 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: slaughterhouse and just offer. Okay, spoiler alert, you're gonna get 169 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: a horse that is weighs about a thousand pounds, very 170 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: light and fast light. Bones will be sixteen hands, which 171 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: is uh, a hand is four inches what you just said, 172 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: So that's sixty four inches about years old, six inches 173 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: sixty four sixty four inches. They'll live to be about 174 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: twenty five. They can take about a hundred and fifty 175 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: strides per minute and race up to an over forty. Yeah, 176 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: that's a cooking horse. And we should say that a 177 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: horse is measured from the ground to its withers, which 178 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: is a ridge right behind the shoulders, smithers withers. And 179 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: you said that they can run forty miles an hour. 180 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: You know why they can run forty miles an hour? 181 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: Because of its stride length. Let's talk about his stride length. 182 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable. Uh. The average stride length of a 183 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: thoroughbred horse is twenty ft. Okay, that's long. So you 184 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: say you're subar U is fifteen ft long super outback. 185 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: So a stride length is the distance between let's say, um, 186 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: the moment the right hoof, right front hoof, any hoof. 187 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: But let's say the right front hoof touches the ground 188 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: to the to the next point where that same hoof, 189 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: that say, the right hoof touches the ground again. So 190 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: on a thirdbred and average thoroughbred horse, it's twenty ft. 191 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: That's very long, longer than a Subaru wagon. Um. And 192 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: then some other horses have had even longer stride lengths 193 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: like Man of War who raced and I think, um, 194 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: he had a stride length of twenty eight ft when 195 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: he was eight and a half meters. That's that's really 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: really long. Um. And he was taller too, I guess, huh, 197 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: he was a very tall horse. And also, so you've 198 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: got a stride length of twenty ft right. Um. They 199 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: can run up to a hundred and fifty strides a minute, 200 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: which means they can go up to forty. But they 201 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: can do this for like over a mile, which is 202 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: amazing when the reason that they can do this for 203 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: over a mile is because they're freaks of nature. As 204 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: far as breeds go, breeds of animal go, right they are. 205 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: They have very special internal organs, specifically a very large 206 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: heart and a very efficient spleen. So while this heart 207 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: is able to pump out seventy i'm sorry, circulate seventy 208 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: five gallons of blood a minute when running, that's a 209 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: lot of blood. The spleen all all of a sudden says, 210 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna kick it into turbo and 211 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, get a bunch of oxygen rich 212 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: blood cells and shoot them all over the blood stream. 213 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: And in the end it's going to increase the total 214 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: red blood cell count thirty five to six total blood volume. 215 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: So the red blood cell count or percentage is normally 216 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: thirty five while it's running, goes up to sixty. So 217 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: it's just delivering oxygen to every part of the running machine. 218 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: And the third bread has a couple of other unique 219 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: characteristics as far as it's run goes. All horses can 220 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: only breathe through their nose. Did you know that? Okay, 221 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: I did not until I wrote this article. Um. And 222 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: then they breathe in while their legs are extending, and 223 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: then they exhale well when the legs come together on 224 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: the ground, so it acts like a bellows. So they're 225 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: breathing in tons of oxygen very efficiently. And then its 226 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: legs do something pretty spectacular. Well, its neck does first. Yeah, 227 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: the neck moves in unison with the front legs, which 228 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: is gonna just give you more propulsion. You need to 229 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: explain the rear hind legs. Okay, So Chuck and I 230 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: had a little in atypical discussion because we normally don't 231 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: discuss things beforehand. But um, that the the back legs 232 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: of a thoroughbred create a spring like motion. They basically 233 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: pump up and down right, which gives the horse a 234 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: lot of rust. It produces a lot of gs. Um. 235 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Chuck showed me a video, the very same video I 236 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: looked at to make sure that I knew what I 237 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: was talking about when I read that, and then you 238 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: know wrote it. Um that it's not the legs necessarily 239 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: just staying in like a stiff up and down motion. 240 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: It's the the overall motion that is being created by 241 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: the legs, the spring like back legs, springing, springing. What 242 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: I noted about behind legs is that they stay almost 243 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: completely straight, so it's just like buying, buying, buying, springing, 244 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: springing down, springing down. However, you look at the back 245 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: legs create like a spring like motion very much that 246 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: propels the horse forward. So that's why thorerbreads are so 247 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: prized for racing. That's right, because they take all the 248 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: speed and the agility of the Arabian and the strength 249 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: and endurance of the English mayors that they were bred with, 250 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: and you've got the Thoroughbreds had a very special horse. 251 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Uh Josh. It wasn't just those three, as you point out, 252 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: that created the whole bloodline. There was a lot of 253 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: hanky panky going on with Oriental group horses that were 254 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: brought over during wartime from the Middle East, and they 255 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: really helped the bloodline out obviously, but a lot of 256 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: them were lost to history because maybe they had only 257 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: female daughters, and that means that's the end of you, 258 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: or at least your bloodline, or maybe you got it 259 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: on with a different breed and that means you're a dirty, 260 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: dirty horse now, and you can't be counted as a 261 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: Thoroughbred any longer. You could be, but you're going to 262 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: be even even if they say all right, fine, I'll 263 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: go back to the Thoroughbred, They're like, Nope, you did 264 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: it with that other kind of horse, so you're done. No, 265 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so, oh what, No, it's just your offspring. Okay. 266 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: So like if if the horse never made it with 267 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: anything but non thoroughbreds, then it's bloodlines lost. I thought 268 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: you were saying that if out, um, well that's good 269 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: to know because I thought that was a little harsh. Yeah. No, 270 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: it's not like that. But all of that is based 271 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: on a decision that was made in sevente by a 272 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: guy named James Weatherbee who created this thing called the 273 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: General Stud Book, and that is that all thoroughbreds are 274 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: traced through the sire, so they can be traced back 275 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: through the to the three and all thoroughbreds alive today 276 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: can be traced back to those three foundations sires. And 277 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: this General Stud Book is a closed registry, meaning only 278 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: Thoroughbred full Thoroughbred horses that are born to full Thoroughbred 279 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: parents can be included in this General Stud book, that's right, 280 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: and more than a hundred thousand or fold worldwide every year, 281 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and so that's a lot of horses to keep track 282 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: of and trace their lineage. Although once you have it 283 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: done the first time, like that General stud Book serves 284 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: as the mother ship of which all other stud books 285 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: are based. So you've got the foundation there you do, 286 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: so it's not like you have to keep tracing back 287 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: to the original three. No, once you can link it 288 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: up to say the last one in the in the 289 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: General stud Book exactly, it's last ancestor then it takes 290 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: over from there. So thank you. Weather Bees. Well yeah, 291 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: well they still do that. The weather Bees Limited is 292 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: still an incorporated company in the UK. I thot they 293 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: have a nice box there at Churchill Down. Oh yeah 294 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: they do, or anywhere anywhere, um they so yeah. James 295 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: Weatherby in se was actually the second weather be his 296 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: uncle um clem no also James. He was the first 297 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: secretary of the Jockey Club and uh he was hired 298 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: to keep track of purses, Chuck, what's a purse? Well, 299 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a purse. A purse is the winnings, the the total 300 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: u amount of money that a horse can win for 301 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: its owner. I should say, horses traditionally don't get to 302 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: keep the money themselves. It goes to the owners, who 303 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: in turn pay the jockeys and all those other people. Um. 304 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: But the the the first James Weatherby was hired in 305 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: seventeent um to basically keep the books for the jockey club. 306 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: So the weather Bees are like a family, a long 307 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: line of accountants basically. And the reason why the first 308 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Jeames Weatherby was hired was because he, um, he was 309 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: hanging around at a time when they really needed to 310 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: start keeping track of the incredible sums of money that 311 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: were being bet on these races. Yeah, what happened was 312 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: they you know, as soon as two rich people get 313 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: something fast, they're gonna want to race against each other. 314 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: And so that's what happened. And they were just like, 315 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: let me race my horse against yours. And then that 316 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: became like, well, let's have a few races, and let's 317 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: add even more horses, and horse racing very organically. Thoroughbred 318 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: racing was very organically. And like you said, then once 319 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: things are racing, some dude's gonna want to bet and 320 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's a huge cottage industry 321 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: that the weather Bees were put in charge of Yeah, exactly. 322 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Back in seventeen seventy. When he was hired, the purses 323 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: were reaching something like two thousand pounds. There's a lot, 324 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot. I didn't see a conversion for today's dollars, 325 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: but it's a lot of pounds. It's a lot. So 326 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: they hired the weather Bees and um, ultimately James Weatherby 327 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: the younger created the General Stubb Book, which, like you said, 328 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: is like the central stud book for all the others. 329 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: America has its own. Um, the American stud Book goes 330 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: back to eighteen sixty eight, and U Thoroughbreds in America 331 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: go back far, far, um earlier than that. Thirty I 332 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: think was the first one. Yeah, bull Rock, which is 333 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: a pretty cool name as a heck of stallion. Yeah, 334 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Bull bull Rock. So Bull Rock was here, and apparently 335 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: there was a horse racing on Long Island as far 336 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: back as the late seventeenth century. Yeah, but thoroughbred's bloodlines 337 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: are and are kept such such exact records are kept 338 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: of the bloodlines that they basically said, you guys had 339 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: a civil war, We're not sure of your records any longer. 340 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Start over, So the American stud Book goes back to 341 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty eight, and that's it. It's the as far 342 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: as anybody's concerned, the beginning of thoroughbred horses in America. Yeah, 343 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: and then the in nineteen thirteen, the Jockey Club passed 344 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: the Jersey Act, which basically said a lot of these 345 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: American horses don't count because unless you're in these other books, 346 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: then you can prove that. Then uh, then your s 347 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: o L right, if your parents don't show up in 348 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: other general stud books that were previously published, then whatever. 349 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: And since there was a break in the records, a 350 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: lot of American horses couldn't get in there, it's right 351 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: until nineteen nine, and they felt bad for them and said, 352 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna let you in and year 353 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: now in the study. So if the stud book says 354 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: who who's in and who's out, and the Jockey Club 355 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: controls the stud book, that means that the Jockey Club 356 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: basically defines what a thoroughbred horses. And when I say basically, 357 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean in every single sense of the word. So color, 358 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: there's nine colors cover everything, though, don't they like what colors? 359 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: Are horses that aren't listed? Is what I wondered. Any 360 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: kind of neon is is left out. They also determine 361 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: whether the name is appropriate, which, uh, you know, you've 362 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: seen some pretty silly horse names, but you notice that 363 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: you've never seen one that was a slur, like a 364 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Rachel slur, social slur. Never one that's offensive. Uh, never 365 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: one that was named after someone famous, unless they said, hey, 366 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: you should name this after me the w C. Fields. 367 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: Well know, if you're if they're alive. Still, I thought 368 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: they had to have consent you of a living famous person. 369 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: I think you can't get interesting, not without reanimation. Oh, 370 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: I just thought like the state could give consenters. But 371 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: I think I think I remember seeing that part of 372 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: the rules if it's a live person interesting Uh, And 373 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: it cannot the name cannot consist of entirely of numbers, 374 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: which makes sense, I guess. But and you can also 375 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: name like um, you can't name it after another winning 376 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: horse traditionally, unless it's like a play on it, like 377 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: seed biscuit was a son of like hard tack, I think, 378 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: which does that type of bread that sailors eight? But 379 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: could you name one like tea biscuit? You could, but 380 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: I'll bet everybody think you're a jeer tea biscuit nine 381 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: O nine sevent eight nine four. Well, and it says 382 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: the Jockey club has the final authority, so they might 383 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: just shut that down on you know, hinkiness alone. Yeah, 384 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: and they can say you name your horse whatever you want, 385 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: but it's not coming in the register. And you're like, okay, 386 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: al right, right, all right, all right, I'll let you. 387 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, Josh, we're talking about purses and it is 388 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: big money now in the US alone, in two thousand 389 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: and ten, the gross purses UH total more than a 390 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: billion dollars. That was actually a pretty big decline. Well 391 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: not big, but there was, there was. It was worth 392 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: more even earlier, like two five was a huge peak 393 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: for purses in the US for horse racing. Yeah, well 394 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: that means if there's a lot of money to be 395 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: one as a horse owner, that means there's a lot 396 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: of money to be made as a horse owner and 397 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: paid as a horse owner. It's very expensive. In fact, 398 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: I looked into this when I remember when I wrote 399 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: that article on unusual investments for Sunny Paper, one of 400 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: them was investing in horses and it didn't seem like 401 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: a very good idea at the time. This is before 402 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: the horse bubble though, because of how much it costs 403 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: to maintain a horse, you know, and just like you 404 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: can buy into it without owning a horse, like almost 405 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: like stock in these operations. So there I think the 406 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: problem is then would be like the the chance, the 407 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: percentage percentage of a chance that you have of that 408 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: particular horse really bringing home big money. Well, you've got 409 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: the chances in here. Six of all year lings fold 410 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: in a given year will be trained to race, so 411 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: almost all of the our trained to race, almost literally 412 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: born to race, and only about five percent of those 413 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: will win any kind of substantial purse. And I think 414 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: you said, was it like point two percent of that 415 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: will ever win a Grade one stakes race? And Grade 416 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: ones are the big ones like the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness. 417 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: Point two percent. Man, that's very low. It is extremely low, um. 418 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: And I mean, if you have a horse that wins 419 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: like a daily race a couple of days a week 420 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: and it's forty grand and it's just a reliable winning horse, 421 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: you're still going to make some money off of it. 422 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: But still the big problem that all thoroughbred horse owners 423 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: face is you have a very very limited time to 424 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: raise your horse, like all prime athletes except even Shorter, 425 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: very much shorter. Cigar Um was a very long lived 426 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: or had a long racing life. He was he had 427 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: sixteen consecutive wins. But he raced until he was five. 428 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: He was five when he raced UM, so he raced 429 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: even longer than just his fifth birthday. UM. But for 430 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: the most part, like I mentioned Man of War, he 431 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: raced like eighteen times I believe, and it was over 432 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: the course of like nineteen nineteen and nineteen twenty. It 433 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: wasn't like two full years UM. And he is one 434 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: of the greatest race horses of all time. Well, the window, 435 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, just to be at that peak of physical condition. 436 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: The window is just so small because they're the best 437 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: of the best. So if you drop off by what 438 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: are the links called like a head length for long? 439 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: An eighth of a mile is a for long. If 440 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: you drop off by just a tiny the tiniest bit, 441 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: you're done. So that's why I guess most of the 442 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: Colts and Phillies are two to three, even though all 443 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: the Triple Crown races are three years old only, right, 444 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: and fact of the show, they're all born on well 445 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: they're not all born but they all have the same 446 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: birthday to help keep track of bloodlines. And what is 447 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: that just January one? January one, But that means that 448 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: the horses racing could potentially be three hundred and sixty 449 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: four days apart from each other in age, but they're 450 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: all considered one year old. They're all considered one um, 451 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: which is a problem. If you are a horse, uh 452 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: that's born on December thirty one, uh, two thousand eleven 453 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: January onwelve, you're considered one um and if you are 454 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: going to race, you're gonna have to race horses of 455 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: your own aid for like the Kentucky Derby's only open 456 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: to three year olds. So yeah, there's the other horses 457 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: in your class have the same have a whole year's 458 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: worth of training ahead of you, and they're gonna dust you, 459 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: which means that if you are a damn and you're 460 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: pregnant and you're about to give birth on December thirty one, 461 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 1: your owners are probably injecting you with drugs that are 462 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: going to keep you from going into labor. Yet another 463 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: example of how humans have like always uh, they play 464 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: an interventionist role in the thoroughbred breed. And if you 465 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: are a little baby born fold that's born in let's 466 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: say June, you're not gonna be very valuable. They want 467 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: horses that are born probably in the first couple of 468 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: months of the year, right, usually the first half of 469 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: the year. Um. And there's I guess here now we 470 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of reach like the somewhat depressing part, well, the 471 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: extremely depressing part of thoroughbred racing, and why I don't 472 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: go to horse or dog races any longer. Well, so 473 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: we talked about injecting damn with um with drugs to 474 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: keep her from going into labor um. The If you're 475 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: a sire, it might sound cool at first, right, but 476 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: having a lot of sex, I'm sure it adds up 477 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: if you are, especially if you're a stud. If you're 478 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: collecting stud fees, um, that means that you're probably owned 479 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: by a breeding syndicate that just makes their money, like 480 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: an investment group, um, that makes their money by by 481 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: hiring you out for stud called covering, that's what it's called. 482 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: When horses do it, um, And they're going to make 483 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: you do it very very, very frequently, as many as 484 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: three females a day for six month stretches for twenty 485 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: years or more. Yeah, And Uh, if things don't go well, 486 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: you will be killed. Slaughtered for the most part in 487 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Great Britain alone. In two thousand eleven, the U The 488 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Observer reported that almost eight thousand horses were slaughtered there 489 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand ten, which was at increase over two 490 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: thousand nine. And they don't let you slaughter horses in 491 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: the United States anymore since two thousand seven, so we 492 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: ship them to Canada to do it right. And then 493 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: in Canada, about two thirds of all thoroughbred race horses 494 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: UM are youthanized, slaughtered or abandoned from racing. I'm sorry, 495 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: not in Canada, but just in the United States, UM, 496 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: after they retired, After they retire from racing. UM. In Canada, 497 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: about a hundred and twenty thousand horses, including thoroughbreds, not 498 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: just for thoroughbreds, were slaughtered in two thousand nine. UM. 499 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: So that's a big problem. And we actually know where 500 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: this problem came from. You said it earlier. It's a 501 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: horse bubble. Yeah, I mean it was literally almost the 502 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: exact same scenario as the housing bubble, except we didn't 503 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: go out and kill houses. No. So basically what happened was, UM, 504 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot of money to be made in horses. 505 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: People started um getting their sires to cover more and 506 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: more frequently, which means that more and more folds were born, 507 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: and the the number of foals born in a given 508 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: years called the full crop um. More and more folds 509 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: meant the market was saturated, which meant that prices dropped 510 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: finally normalized, which meant that there was a lot of 511 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: and I'm making quotes here because I don't actually think this, 512 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: but surplus folds, which led to a an increase in slaughter, euthanasia, 513 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: and just general like abandonment of folds that didn't quite 514 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: meet the requirements. It couldn't be sold very well, which 515 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: meant the horse bubble burst, which is good in one 516 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: way because it means that the breed is no longer 517 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: being rampantly abused as it was a couple of years ago. 518 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: It also means that if you're an enthusiast or a breeder, 519 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: that the breed itself is going to get better because 520 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: apparently rampant reproduction lead to kind of a decrease an 521 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: emphasis in quantity over quality. That's going to change, um. 522 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: But the problem is whether or not anybody will learn 523 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: anything from it. Well, yeah, and the problem too is 524 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: this breeding, very specific, scientific breeding of this horses. Even 525 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: when they do it perfectly right, you've got a scenario 526 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: where you've got a horse with very light bones. Um. 527 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: But you know this one writer said the heart of 528 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: a locomotive and Champagne glass ankles. So as we all 529 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: saw in two thousand six when Barbaro very gruesomely broke 530 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: its foot. Um, they tried to fix it, but I 531 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: think that was I don't know, they didn't fix it. 532 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Youthanized in two thousand seven, and then eight Bells, Uh, 533 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: they just youuthanized her right on the track, which was 534 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: very sad at Churchill Downs in two thousand eight. So 535 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: Animal eight. If you want to look into organizations like that, 536 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: they do a good job. They documented seven twenty nine 537 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: horses that were injured and euthanized and from March two 538 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: thousand seven to August eleven, and uh, you know, depending 539 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: on which way you fall on that fence, the information 540 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: is out there. Yeah, there's also a ton of um 541 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: thoroughbred and just horse in general. But there's a lot 542 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: of thoroughbred rescue organizations that UM taken abandoned or retired 543 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. Thoroughbred horses that aren't wanted any longer and 544 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: care for them one riding around your property exactly real fast, 545 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: keep it as a as a watch horse. UM. Also, 546 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: I want to mention something before anybody writes in UM. 547 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: January one is the universal birthdate for UM. Thoroughbred horses 548 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: in the Northern hemisphere. In the southern hemisphere is August one. 549 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: Thoroughbred horses lovely, lovely, lovely animals. They're beautiful, they are UM. 550 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Let's see, there's a pretty cool documentary. UM. It's sad 551 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: because Barbara is in it. Oh man, it's sad. UM. 552 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: It's called I think the First Saturday in May. It's 553 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: a documentary about the Kentucky Derby and specifically the two 554 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: thousand six Kentucky Derby. UM and all the horses that 555 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: are starting to make their way toward it's really um. 556 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: And then, of course you can read my article on thoroughbreds. UH. 557 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about thoroughbreds, can read 558 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: that article. Type in thoroughbreds t H O R O U, 559 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: G H B R E B S in the handy 560 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: search bar how stuffworks dot Com and that will bring 561 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: up this article. And I said handy searchbar. So it's 562 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: time for a listener mail. Josh IMNNA call this cool 563 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: kid from Minnesota. It's from Gauge. He has a cool name. 564 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Hey, guys, I'm fifteen years old. I 565 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: am from Moose like Minnesota, where it is winter for 566 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: about nine months out of the year. Cool play hockey, golf, 567 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: and I water ski is the water skis in those 568 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: three months. Um in the tenth grade, I'm on track 569 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: to be one of the youngest graduates in school history. 570 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: People are starting to ask me what I want to 571 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: do when I'm older. I usually say doctor because I 572 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: find the human body and especially the brain, extremely fascinating. 573 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Mostly the same time and the explanation of what I 574 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: really want to do. Guys. Ever since the first episode, okay, 575 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: maybe not the first, for a long time, I've wanted 576 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: to work for how Stuff Works dot com so neurologist 577 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: or right for how Stuff Works a neurologist. I'm wondering 578 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: what kind of qualifications I would need and if there's 579 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: any way to get a leg up on the competition. 580 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm a major fan. I won't say biggest because you 581 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: then you wouldn't believe me, but you two have been 582 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: big role models for me, and I hopefully will continue 583 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: to look up to you. No pressure, hopefully as long 584 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: as we're gonna screw it up. So please write back 585 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: with any advice and good luck to you. I did 586 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: write Gauge back. Did you tell him that a good 587 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: way to get a leg up over the competitions for 588 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: his parents to give us some money? Yeah, and then 589 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: just to submit your letter and your portfolio and your 590 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: a little tryout article. It's really easy to get a 591 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: job here, or it was. Now we're not hiring a 592 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: lot of full time writers anymore. Unfortument Wow, what can 593 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: read what your poce? Can we give him? Uh? I 594 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: think we should make him a blogger for stuff you 595 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: should know. Oh that's a good idea, huh. In fact, 596 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: our boss even mentioned I showed him the scene and 597 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, what if we can get just 598 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: get some work? And I said, sure, you can blog 599 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: for me? So what did he say? He kind of 600 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: died there, But it could be it could be resurrected 601 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: if if Gauge was up for something like that. I 602 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: feel like you really just applied the pressure. Maybe. So alright, Gauge, 603 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: let's get this ball rolling. Why don't you write us 604 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,479 Speaker 1: back after you hear this and take a nice little 605 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: victory lap around your high school. Um, wearing a parka 606 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be cold. Um. And uh, if you 607 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: think Gauge should blog if we want to hear about it, right, 608 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: I think you should under the name Charles W. Bryant. 609 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: If if you want to, if you want to see 610 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: if you can tell the difference between a Chuck blog 611 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: and a Gauge blog, let us know, Cage just about it. 612 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: We'll get this started. We'll figure out what shape is 613 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna take eventually. But just show us some support so 614 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Chuck can get out of blogging. UM, tweet to us 615 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe pound go Gauge or something like that. Uh. That's 616 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: s y s K podcasts. Um. You can do something 617 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash stuff you Should Know, 618 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: and you can send us regular old emails at Stuff 619 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: Podcast at how Stuff works dot com. 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