WEBVTT - 9/11/25: Charlie Kirk Assassinated In Utah 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.159 Hi, everyone. Immediately after we finished our recording, there actually 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.120 was some new information. We're going to add this to 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:06.760 the very top. So I'm just going to go ahead 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.600 and share some of the latest from law enforcement. This 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:13.399 is from the law enforcement press conference. This is at 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.840 nine to twenty six am Eastern time. Just for dating purposes, 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:19.560 I'm going to go ahead and play this about what 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:20.840 they know about the individual. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.599 We were able to track the movements of the shooter 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:28.880 starting at eleven fifty two am. This subject arrived on 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.440 campus shortly away from campus. We have tracked his movements 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.440 onto the campus through the stairwells up to the roof, 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:41.240 across the roof to a shooting location. After the shooting, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.760 we were able to track his movements as he moved 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.920 to the other side of the building, jumped off of 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:50.279 the building, and fled off of the campus and into 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:55.440 a neighborhood. Our investigators have worked through those neighborhoods, contacting 0:00:55.480 --> 0:01:01.760 anybody they can with doorbell cameras, witnesses, and have thoroughly 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:07.560 worked through those communities trying to identify any leads. We 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.840 do have good video footage of this individual. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.280 We are not going to release that at this time. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.720 We're working through some technologies and some ways to identify 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.440 this individual. If we are unsuccessful, we will reach out 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:21.959 to you as the media and we will push that 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.520 publicly to help us identify them. But we are confident 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.640 in our abilities right now, and we would like to 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.000 move forward in a manner that keeps everyone safe and 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.840 moves this process appropriately. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.560 So that's big news. They do have what we really 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.560 discussed in our segment about how it was pretty shocking 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:43.560 that they had not released any any information or video there. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.160 We do have one more thing that we can play 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.600 here about the rifle, which the weapon they believe that 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.320 they've discovered. I'm going to go ahead and play that 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:51.720 as well. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:53.320 This morning. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:54.880 I can tell you that we have recovered what we 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.680 believe is the weapon that was used in yesterday's shooting. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.960 There's a high powered bolt action rifle. That rifle was 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.000 recovered in a wooded area where the shooter had fled, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:13.480 so the FBI laboratory will be analyzing this weapon. Investigators 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:18.000 have also collected footwear impression, a palm print, and forearm 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:23.000 imprints for analysis. I understand there are a lot of 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:28.520 questions about motive. I assure you that all leads, tips 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.360 and tips are being fully investigated. As of this morning, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.920 we received more than one hundred and thirty tips. We 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.840 think the community for that. This morning, I can tell 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:38.680 you that we have recovered. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.280 So there you go, they've recovered a high powered rifle. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.200 So those are the two kind of addendums that just 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.080 to add into that, keep that in context. Anything else 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.880 you want to add, Crystal before we throw to our 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.160 original comments. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:50.840 No, I think that's it. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.880 Yeah, just guys, we record our whole thing and then 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.280 right afterwards there's this press conference, so you know, just 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.720 take that additional information in as you're listening to our commentary. Obviously, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.480 the some of the specifics have changed about what we 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.679 know about the potential suspect, but I think all the 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.200 overall commentary on what it means for the country, et cetera, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.640 continues to stand. So all right, guys, we'll keep you 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.799 updated best we can. And Ryan, Emily and I will 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.480 be doing a Friday show tomorrow as well. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.920 Hello everybody, it is It's Thursday, and we had to 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.080 do a little bit of special programming today because conservative 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:31.239 activist Charlie Kirk was shot and murdered yesterday in Utah. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.760 So we're coming in from home. I think people can hear. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:40.880 You know, it's a it's a very difficult story to cover, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.360 and we're going to take everybody through it, and we're 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.160 going to talk a little bit about kind of what 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.920 it means, you know, to us, and kind of what 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.320 I think we means, you know, to the mission of 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.360 the show, and just generally about the country and all 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.480 of that. But we do think, you know, this is 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.400 a place where we have to show up. We've got 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.280 to do the news. So so why don't we just 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.560 go ahead and start, you know, with everything that we know. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.200 You know. Crazily enough, it was literally happened as we 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.560 were planning the show for the next day, and we 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.680 all found out in real time. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.680 So yeah, Emily started sending us messages and none of 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.479 us could believe it. And before we get into what 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.600 we know, which frankly, I mean, we waited to put 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:27.160 anything out last night because there's always you know, misdirection 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.520 and things that are wrong, et cetera, and usually things 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.159 shake out and you get a clear picture of what 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.279 the hell happened. And I can't say that we know 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.200 that much more this morning than we did yesterday. From 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.560 everybody at breaking points from me. Sager, Ryan and Emily 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:45.919 also wanted us to convey our horror at the at 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.400 the whole thing, and our deepest consolences to Charlie's family, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.400 his wife, his two kids who were there on the 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.839 scene when he was shot and murdered in this political 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.440 assassination that happened in broad daylight. So here's what we know. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:02.680 Let me go ahead and set the scene a little bit. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:07.159 This was you know, Charlie has known for his college tours. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.960 This was the first stop of a college tour. This 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.080 was in Utah at Utah Valley University. And you know, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.880 it looked like a looked like a normal day. He 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.919 was out, he was throwing hats into the crowd, and 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.560 then suddenly gunfire erupts and you can see everybody scattering 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:31.160 and screams and chaos. You guys have probably seen the 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.960 actual video of his murder, which was captured on camera, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.960 and if you haven't seen it, I recommend you don't 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.680 watch it because the image will haunt you for. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.239 The rest of your life. Absolute horror. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:51.080 Single shot to the neck and he instantly collapses. The students, 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.640 of course flee as we showed you there, and what 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:59.520 we have come to find out from video, and you know, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.120 from from what we've learned at the scene, is that 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.479 the shooter was apparently on a nearby roof. Let me 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.680 go ahead and share this piece so you can see 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.320 a little bit of you know, what this looked like. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:18.479 So you can see this image here appears to be 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.800 the shooter and Sagar, you know, as we're putting the 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.560 pieces of this together, and Charlie was taken to the 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.960 hospital and then you know, later died while he was 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.480 there receiving medical care. And anyone who saw that wound 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.599 I think was pretty convinced pretty quickly that he wasn't 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.960 going to be able to make it. But the shooter 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:43.720 was quite a distance away. Immediately, the police arrested an 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.120 older man who was in the crowd. There were some 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.240 eyewitnesses who said that he had claimed responsibility, this old 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.520 man that was in the crowd, even though yet was unarmed. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.760 There's video also of him being dragged off where he's saying, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.200 shoot me, shoot me, acting very strange. Meanwhile, the actual 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.800 gunman was on this the roof. Estimates are some two 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:06.159 hundred yards away. I'm not expert on guns, but you know, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.040 we've all sort of spoken to people in our lives 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.640 that we know who say this. You know, this would 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.280 be a difficult shot, and it was a single shot, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.160 and obviously, you know, shot to kill, and so far 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.400 has successfully evaded capture. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.640 Yeah, the circumstances beyond the sheer horror of the actual murder, 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:27.440 the circumstances of this assassination are really honestly shocking. So 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.000 I'm going to go ahead and put this map up 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.800 here on the screen just so that people can see. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.600 So this was if you're watching exactly where Charlie was shot, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.679 kind of in a lawn, you know, almost auditorium style 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.200 place at the Utah Valley University campus, and a video 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.800 showed a person on the roof before the shooting about 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.360 four hundred and thirty feet away. So if you're looking 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.520 at this diagram, you can actually see the rooftop where 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.280 some of the video actually captured. You know, this individual 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.560 are suspected individual. Part of the thing is, you know, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.640 we really don't still know a lot right now. You 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.800 had that initial suspects, not even suspect. You had a 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.440 person who was taken into custody who faced questioning and 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.080 definitely was acting very strangely That was followed by the 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.920 FBI Director Cash Ptel, who said that there was a 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.400 subject in custody that was a second subject actually in custody. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.200 I can go ahead and put that up there on 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.400 the screen as well, because it just shows the chaotic 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.319 nature so far of a lot of the communication from 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.640 law enforcement. They say that the subject in custody has 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.480 been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.560 continues and we will continue to release information in the 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.400 interest of transparency. But that is the last communication that 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.800 we had gotten from the FBI director so far, and 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.920 the manhunt remains underway. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.400 And incredibly irresponsible, frankly to put out such a you know, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.400 his initial statement. People really felt like, oh, they got 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.400 the guy right. There was a press conference with law 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.600 enforcement and other electeds that they were contradicting each other 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.559 at that point, whether they had a suspect and custody 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.320 or not, whether there was an ongoing manhunt or not. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:15.200 In addition to the old man that was seemingly acting 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.800 very bizarre at this at the scene but has now 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:23.520 been released, there was another another guy that they arrested. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.880 I think that actually is the subject that Cash was 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.000 Pashtel was referring to here. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.000 Also turned out to be uninvolved. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.840 He'd been like a Heritage Foundation staff or so, just 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.839 you know, part of the sort of conservative firmament. I 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.600 don't know why they picked him up at all, but 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.400 extremely bizarre. You know, at this point, basically the only 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:46.040 thing that we have heard definitively about the appearance of 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.240 this you know, of this individual, the assassin, is that 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.600 they were dressed all in black. There was some audio 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.360 released from a police scanner that you know, said we're 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.160 looking for a subject who's dressed all in black. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:09:59.640 That's basically it. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.440 We don't have any any photos of any suspects. We 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:08.280 haven't heard anything about any any tips or intelligence. Now 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.640 maybe there are things going on behind the scenes, but 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.800 the fact they had two separate individuals in custody that 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.800 they questioned and released and have not put out any 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.440 information to the public to try to apprehend anyone, I mean, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:21.880 it's it's deeply concerning. 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:23.880 And uh, all. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.640 The experts who've looked at this say, this looked like 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.760 an extremely professional job. You know, the shot itself would 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.320 be would be difficult, and you know, single shot, single 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:40.800 kill shot. Then he's able to seemingly flawlessly escape and 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.680 escape justice at least up to up to this point 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.760 in the day. You know, soccer, can you do you 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.120 mind putting that map up on the screen if you 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.199 have it, because if you look at that building, uh, 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.520 there is a parking lot too that is right behind 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.679 the building that you know that the shooter was a 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.000 lleged you know that we think that the shooter was 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.000 on when he murdered Charlie Kirk. And so the thought 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.080 is that he was able to, you know, escape from 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.800 this building while the crowd is fleeing, while they're bothered, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.120 you know, busy arresting this old man who has apparently 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.960 nothing to do with it, he's able to probably go 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.400 to this parking lot and escape and vanish so far 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.880 into thin air. So from the difficulty of the shot, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:27.400 the execution of that, to the ability to get away 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.760 from the scene and you know and take advantage of 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.079 these you know, diversions, makes it seem like it was intentional. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.240 I guess that's not completely onto the question, but take 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.320 advantage of this chaos to be able to exit. This 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.400 was someone who knew what they were doing. This was 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.160 not some random radicalized in cel on the internet or whatever. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.560 This was someone you know, someone who had a lot 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.840 of experience in marksmanship and who had a plan and 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:53.760 was able to execute it. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.000 Yeah. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.840 What I heard from a few gun experts is they 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.040 were like, look, it's not that two hundred yards is 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.080 a difficult shot. It's their life. You know, somebody could 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.920 do it. They would have to know some familiarity. Generally, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.600 laying in the prone makes it a lot easier in 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.080 terms of the sniping direction. But I think actually you 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.320 have to combine it with the totality of what we've 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:19.440 seen in the executions so far wearing black also, you know, 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.319 laying in the prone, finding a position, planning the attack, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.800 having a way of egress, evading capture, some thirteen out. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.240 Keep in mind, everybody, we're recording this around eight thirty 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.959 am Eastern Standard time, Eastern time, so people should just 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.480 remember that, you know, information can break very quickly. But 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.920 this is largely not just our you know, assessment, it's 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.200 also the assessment of some law enforcement experts. You know, 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.600 the CNN actually had a guest on who made this 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.520 very point. So I'm going to go ahead and play 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.880 a little bit from what they were saying. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.760 In a case like this, you're looking for someone who 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:00.480 has detachment and a lack of empathy, who likes to 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:06.600 be in control the offender. Characteristics of the assassin sniper 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.680 are something that's been studied very closely, especially by the 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:16.319 Secret Service, and it's someone who's methodical and patient, self reliant. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.600 In other words, Caitlin, this is the kind of person 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:24.080 who would have planned to get in silently, try to 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:29.120 be invisible, take this shot, accomplish the mission, take the 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:33.080 gun with them, and leave little evidence behind, which is 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.760 why I think they're having a very difficult time getting 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.600 started on this. This is someone who was a. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.959 Planner and John Also, what stood out to me from 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.040 what we heard from officials earlier was they said it 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.080 was a single shot that was fired. It wasn't multiple 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.080 shots in Charlie Kirk's direction. They said it was about 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.320 two hundred yards away from where he was sitting under 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.280 that tent. What does that tell you about the person's 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.120 familiarity with firearms? 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.640 That tells you that the person is not new to shooting. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.280 That they understood exactly what type of long rifle to bring, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.440 what kind of optics in terms of scopes and sites 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.840 to have on that What the windage was that might 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.440 affect a shot from that distance. This is someone who 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.680 knew exactly what they were doing and is probably known 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.680 to others, and this may be working to the advantage 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.520 of law enforcement as someone who has a long history 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.400 in shooting an amateur. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.360 So I think that that's very important to keep in 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.200 mind here. That's what they're saying now so far, you know, 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.360 in terms of the initial assessment, and I think, you know, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:44.520 again combining the totality of the shot, of the execution 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.720 of getting out. If we think a little bit more recently, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.240 one of the more high profile assassinations that we saw 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:55.080 with Luigi Mangioni, there's a couple of differences because Maggioni, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.680 you know, came up very close to the United Healthcare CEO. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.320 Of course, you know, he was able to escape, but 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.760 he also was you know, he made a couple of 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.360 mistakes there with security camera footage they were releasing images. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.280 Law enforcement again to this point, has not released any 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.800 image at all of the suspect. In fact, the press 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.840 conference that they gave so that the CCTV footage was 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.880 grainy and it just simply showed a person in black. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.600 Presumably Also, the FBI is going to be doing like 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.880 a cell phone location ping, which they're able to do 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.320 and they've done in high profile investigations as well, to 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.960 try and narrow all of the individuals who were there. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.800 I was looking at some maps of the area. There 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.880 was a freeway very close by and obviously was a 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.240 very chaotic situation, you know, to be able to go 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.080 away and get in. There's some three thousand people who 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:48.360 actually attended the event. But broadly, you know, at this point, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.640 the fact that you've evaded capture for some twelve hours, 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.320 more than twelve hours now since this attack does show 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.600 and also the release of two suspects says this is 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.440 a difficult investigation right now for the f and it 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.200 does tell us also, you know, with the information, the 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.800 conflicting information and all the stuff that came out, it 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.520 is it's pretty shocking, and it does I think also 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.240 what we can focus on is this, you know, if 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.040 we look at some of that you were talking about, 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:18.800 the crazed lunatic attacks, very often those lead in suicide. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:25.040 They are martyrs who immediately are identified confronted by law enforcement. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.720 In this particular case, I think the fact that the 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.640 shooter fled had a plan in the very beginning that 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.960 there's been no claim, manifesto, et cetera. Actually is a 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.400 message in and of itself that this person, at the 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.280 very least, you know, wanted to evade capture. Now again 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.119 keep in mind that could be still a single individual. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.840 The DC sniper case. If we originally think back to that, 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.280 there was a lot of speculation to the planned nature 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.080 of it. It was it's crazy. Actually we're talking on 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.680 the day of nine to eleven, the twenty fourth anniversary 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.120 since the nine to eleven attacks that happened in the 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.000 wake of that, and there was a lot of worry 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.639 about terrorism, etc. Obviously it turned out to be you know, 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.959 a crazy guy and his son, but he did have 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.840 military training and they certainly did, you know, plan a 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.320 lot of this round Luigi against similar situations to somebody 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:20.000 who conducted an assassination, high profile assassination, was able to 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.359 flee of their own accord, got away for a couple 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.320 of days. So it is certainly within the realm of possibility. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:31.159 But the nature, the political assassin nature of this is 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.439 so extraordinary and it really doesn't have a lot of 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.399 parallels in modern American history, which we can return to. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.160 But you know, there's also some pretty kind of crazy 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.240 information now that's coming out. I want to keep in 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.600 mind in speculation, but there was John Solomon over at 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.320 who works for I think Real America's Voice, was recently 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.639 reporting here on Fox News that there was actually some 0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:00.399 foreign intelligence lead involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. And keep 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.960 in mind, look Solomon, you know, he is his own 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.040 track record. You can go and look for yourself. I 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.280 will say he's the person who broke the Charlie Kirk's 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.280 death story. He was the first person to report it 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.440 actually over at Real America's Voice, which was the outlet 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.399 which hosts the Charlie Kirk program. But here's what he 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.320 had to say late last night. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.280 And that we all lost, no matter what side of 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.680 the political all you're on too, we lost something important 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.920 in America today. But the case goes on, the investigation 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.280 goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.480 We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.639 of leads, a couple of people that were released that 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.920 probably aren't the shooter. They a couple of hot leads, 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.560 is a little bit of foreign intelligence, and I think 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.840 over the next couple of days, we'll learn a lot 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.760 more and hopefully we will bring to justice the evil 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.280 person who did what they did to Charlie today. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:48.920 Yeah, I hope. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.000 So John Solomon's there saying a little bit of foreign intelligence. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.359 It look, it's not deniable. He's got a lot of 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.359 sources in the Trump administration. Is one of the favorite 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.840 journalists of Donald Trump himself. And we know that Donald 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.520 try Trump has actually spent a lot of time actually 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.800 on the phone there is let's see, I'm Crystal, if 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.840 you just talk, there's some new information. I'm just going 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:10.359 to review it. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.199 Okay, Yeah, go ahead and take a look at that. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.119 So Soccer and I also actually actually both have personal 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.600 experience with John Solomon. He worked he was our boss 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.240 effectively at the Hill when we both started there. I 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.679 will say he is not always the most reliable character, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.840 but as Soccer said, he is very well sourced in 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.720 the Trump administry. He's close to Trump, He's close to Charlie. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.520 He you know, is I'm sure close with people in 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.880 the FBI, probably Cash Betel himself. So you know, that's 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.160 why it's worth paying attention to what he says there. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.880 To go back to what Soccer was saying about, Okay, well, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:42.639 what is the what is the profile? What do we 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.879 know of this individual and what they wanted to accomplish. 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:51.280 Unlike we can compare to the recent school shooting in Minnesota. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:56.240 You know, that person posted long video, there were long journals. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.760 They wanted people to know about them and their psychology 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.920 and what they were doing and why with all this symbology. 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.199 They also intended to be killed on the same and 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.760 killed themselves on the scene. You know, that is a 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:13.640 typical trait oftentimes is you'll see you know, you'll see 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.600 a manifesto. You'll see someone who either dies by their 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.840 own hands or intends to be killed by the cops. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.560 There's a desire for sort of infamy and notoriety. You 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.080 also have, you know, the desire to make some specific 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.919 political point and make it really clear and apparent to 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.960 the public. In this instance, you know, you have two 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.080 things that you can say for sure. This person wanted 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.399 a public execution. They wanted it to be on camera. 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:45.080 They wanted all of us to be scrolling through our 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.520 Twitter and seeing the gore and the horror, the absolute 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:53.240 horror of this. That was the message they wanted to send. 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.760 They wanted all of us to see it. They wanted everyone, 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.720 certainly who's a public fee, They wanted everyone to feel 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.600 un safe and know that even if you're you know, 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.560 Charlie Kirk and you got the president's ear and you've 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.720 got a security team around you, that no one is safe. 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:14.320 And we also know that they wanted not to be found, right. 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.199 They wanted to do this from a distance. They did 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.359 not want to be captured. They wanted to evade justice. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.760 They wanted to get away. As far as we know 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.440 at this point, we haven't found or located any sort 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:29.320 of specific manifesto. Now that doesn't mean that this wasn't ideological. 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.320 I think, I think, you know, it's very very very 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.000 likely ideological. Although you know, you can't rule out there's 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.679 all sorts of types of people that this could be. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:40.919 But I and I think the third thing we can 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.520