1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: World Course at the Star in Frisco's. 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee, Live 7 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: from the Star and Frisco. We're here in the s 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 3: WBC podcast studio. I'm here with Nick Harris, Isaiah standback, 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: John Machoda. I am Josh Rodriguez filling in for Kyle 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeoman who is on paternity leave. Shouts to him taking 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: care of his kids. 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: What a good father he is. 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: He is a good dad. 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: Take them dad. 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: We'll miss him for sure. And just hear filling filling 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: shoes as it were. We got Chrispy in the back. 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Boys. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 5: How we doing fan Tabby Loso? 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I can't complain. Draft We did this draft? Yeah, 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 6: Draft Week players. 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a lot of players. 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 6: Trading. 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they just acquire a ton of picks next year. 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 7: Uh No, today's there's a press conference with who's all 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 7: going to be on this press conference panel? We got 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 7: Steven Jones, Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy and Will McLay. 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 4: For this one today. 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Lunch provided, that's all I know. 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 4: Lunch Yeah, lunch. 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 7: Provided, which is a yeah, that's that's new. But yeah, 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 7: so we'll we'll hear from them today. Obviously they won't 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 7: give too much as far as draft strategy goes. But 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 7: certain things that I'm I'm curious about to address is 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 7: are they open for business and trading back? Do they 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 7: want to acquire a Day three pick? You know, what 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 7: does that kind of look like for them? 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 8: Uh? 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 7: And their conversations up there in the building. So excited 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 7: to see what comes with that. And then man, draft time, 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 7: I'm excited. Man, It's yeah, it's one of my favorite times. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 7: It's sure time to shine, right, It's just my favorite 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 7: time of the year. 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: Well, we got news and notes to get to kind 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: of first off, before we get into the draft stuff. 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 9: Uh. 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, he had some comments this week or I 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: guess last week. I kind of wanted to get into 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: that as far as his future goes in Dallas. He 49 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: made some comments about that. John, did you want to 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: kind of kick us off? And yeah, tell us what 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: he said? 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 8: So Nick and I were both there and I don't 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 8: know if this jumped out to you immediately when it happened. 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 8: But the way he talked about not being nervous or worried, feared, 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 8: I don't feel fear. I don't fear about whether it's 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 8: you know, his futures with the Cowboys or something. And 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 8: that's the first time I ever heard him kind of 58 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 8: talk like that. I like, I liked it from his 59 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 8: perspective because it just shows you that he's dug in 60 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 8: and that I mean, he's a competitor. So I did 61 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 8: it just he is so used to always saying exactly 62 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 8: whatever the right thing is or whatever, you know, towing 63 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 8: the company line, and for him to say that, that 64 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 8: was the first time that I've ever been around him 65 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 8: where I was like, oh, yeah, he's ready for He's 66 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 8: ready for the a If if you guys think that 67 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 8: you're better off without me, well maybe maybe maybe we'll 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 8: find out. 69 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 10: Now. 70 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 8: Of course he didn't say that, but that's I mean, 71 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 8: you read in between the lines. I thought that was 72 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 8: that was pretty interesting, that part of it, and then 73 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 8: the other part is just the whole. Yeah, he's talked 74 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 8: to Jerry Jones about the contract, but haven't had quote, 75 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 8: real talks. Yeah, And that one to me was a 76 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 8: little surprising, just because that's all we talk about is 77 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 8: just DA contract, CD contract, MIC A contract, and you're 78 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 8: just thinking, well, no, they're they're having these conversations everything, 79 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 8: and the fact that they're not really having any substantial 80 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 8: conversations it just I mean, I said this before free 81 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 8: agency started. I know you've said it way before then, 82 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 8: but just like every day that goes by, it's more 83 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 8: and more likely that he's going to play out this 84 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 8: final year of this deal, and that's just gonna be wild. 85 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of pressure 86 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 8: on him, but there was pressure on him before for 87 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 8: that last deal and he broke his ankle pretty significantly 88 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 8: and still got that deal. So that doesn't mean that 89 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 8: he's not going to be with the Dallas Cowboys. But 90 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 8: I think that, I think that right now is just 91 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 8: more than ever you have to start thinking about that 92 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 8: being a possibility. I know a lot of Cowboys fans 93 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 8: probably don't want to think about that. I mean, if 94 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 8: you're a Cowboys fan, you're used to whoever is your 95 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 8: franchise quarterback. They don't wear anybody else's jersey, you know, Yeah, 96 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 8: they don't go anywhere else. 97 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 7: When was the last time a quarterback left the Cowboys 98 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 7: like it's still still in good standing. I guess as 99 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 7: far as his career, I don't think there's a like 100 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 7: a good one. I don't think there's been one. Yeah, yeah, 101 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 7: was that fist pump? Like a yes fist pump or 102 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 7: like a darn fist place Listen. 103 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 11: Like you mentioned, I foresaw that he was going to 104 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 11: have to play in his fifth year, and it's still 105 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 11: up in the air. But I like the fact that 106 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 11: they're making him seemingly leaning towards him playing on his 107 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 11: last year of his contract. I like it because all 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 11: the respect in the world to Dak Prescott, great human being. 109 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 11: He's been a good player for the Dallas Cowboys. But ultimately, 110 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 11: your goal and your mission every year for every single organization, 111 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 11: all thirty two teams, is to win a Super Bowl. 112 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 5: That's your over archie go. 113 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 11: Now, everything else underneath that umbrella is pretty much like 114 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 11: pats on the back or progress. It's either pat on 115 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 11: the back, Hey, good job got to the first round 116 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 11: or guess what, you know, we got further than we 117 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 11: got the year before, so we're heading in the right direction, right. 118 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 11: Those are really the two boxes that get checked every 119 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 11: single year. But if your ultimate goal is to win 120 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 11: a super Bowl, and you're serious about winning a super Bowl, 121 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 11: then you have to take the regular season work kind 122 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 11: of out of the picture. 123 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: You really have to separate. 124 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 11: Your emotional your emotional ties to an individual and the 125 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 11: success that they've had during the regular season, and you 126 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 11: have to look and say, during the postseason, what have 127 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 11: we done? 128 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: And when you look at. 129 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 11: Tony Romo's career here, which you moved on from him, 130 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 11: he was two and FoEI in the playoffs, correct Dak 131 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 11: Prescott's two and five as. 132 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 5: It currently stands, there's not much difference there. 133 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 8: Well, they're one difference though, I will say with Romo 134 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 8: and Dak is that Tony Romo could still be the 135 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 8: starting quarterback of this franchise for all we know if 136 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 8: his if his back could hold up good, we don't 137 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 8: know that, he wouldn't still be here right now. So 138 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 8: his his health kind of forced the hands. So the 139 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 8: idea that well, they're just not gonna put up with this, 140 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 8: We're going to move the next one. 141 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 6: We haven't really seen that from them. 142 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 11: I understand that, and I totally agree with you. His 143 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 11: tenure here got cut short because of the succession of 144 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 11: Dak Prescott based upon an unfortunate situation with with Tony Romo. 145 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 11: The thing is, the record at that point in time 146 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 11: remained the same. He was two and four in the playoffs. 147 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 11: Right now, Dak Prescott's two and five. So as an organization, 148 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 11: regardless of how outstanding of a citizen he is, how 149 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 11: how how much of a great model he is for 150 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 11: the organization and great spokesperson, great human being, great regular 151 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 11: season demon right killing it runner up to MVP? Does 152 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 11: that get jewelry on your finger? And has it gotten 153 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 11: jewelry on your finger? And if that is the ultimate goal, 154 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 11: then why would you not put somebody's back up against 155 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 11: the wall. Say, before I reward you, I have to 156 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 11: actually reward you for performance. 157 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: You're leading the witness a little bit. Obviously, no, there 158 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: are no rings on his finger. But I also think 159 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: that was Dax Prescott's job to take. I mean, if 160 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: it was what the Cowboys intended, if it was Paxton 161 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Lynch on this roster, I think Tony Romo would still 162 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: probably be the quarterback in some capacity. I don't think 163 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: he overtakes Tony Romo in that position. But because you 164 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: had Dak Prescott on the roster. He took that job understood, 165 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: he really did. As painful as that for me to say, 166 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: as much as I left Tony Romo a little bit 167 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: more context if I could on yeah, on the on 168 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: the day last week and his availability. So first off, 169 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: the event was for the Children's Cancer Ball on gala 170 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and Troy Yeigman or co chairman's of the 171 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: of the Cancer Fund. And there was fifty to seventy 172 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: five kids that walked and over one hundred that were 173 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: able to come back and you know, participate in the 174 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: festivities after participating in previous years. So a really good 175 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: cause overall. I wanted to be sure and hit that. 176 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 6: Hey Romo ended up being there too. 177 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 7: Roma was there too, which was very fascinating seeing all 178 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: three of them together like that. It is very fascinating, 179 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 7: especially given the context of all of them as well. 180 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 7: But a couple of more things, uh, Dak Prescott has 181 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 7: had a meeting with Jerry Jones in recent weeks. He 182 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 7: was able to tell us and just he said that 183 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 7: there's not any gray area. So at least whatever the 184 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 7: understanding is, Dak Prescott and Jerry Jones are on the 185 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 7: same page as far as where this contract, where these 186 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 7: contract negotiations stand, he said, I talked to Jerry, so 187 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 7: I understand where we are. Obviously Jerry's mentioned the same, 188 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 7: so there's not any gray area in that sense. We 189 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 7: had a great conversation that put us aligned and where 190 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 7: we are in this moment. And he made he said, 191 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 7: in the moment now, focusing on now. That was kind 192 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 7: of the theme around his availability in my eyes, and 193 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 7: he's maintained that he has kept that same ridic rhetoric 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 7: throughout his career. He said, you could go back to 195 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 7: earlier in my career when there wasn't a contract in play. 196 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 7: I'm a guy who focuses on the now, what I 197 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 7: can do in this moment. Yes, yes, there's something you 198 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 7: can pull from that, but also I think it's it's 199 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 7: a little bit more ambiguous when you look at it 200 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 7: with the context, given the fact that he's entering a 201 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 7: final year of his deal, and also the fact that 202 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 7: you go back and you look at his previous availability, 203 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 7: which was for the same cause a couple of months ago. 204 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 7: I believe it was early March, right before a free 205 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 7: agency started there at North Park. I think it was 206 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 7: around early March, and he was like, I'm confident we're 207 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 7: gonna get a deal done. 208 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 9: You know. 209 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 7: There's that's that's where that's where we stand. You know, 210 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 7: I'm confident it's gonna happen and the team needs it, 211 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 7: so you know we're gonna get it done. To now, 212 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm just living in the now. You know, 213 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 7: when when talks get here, they'll get here, you know. 214 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 7: And so it's like it's it's a little bit more 215 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 7: more ambiguous and you kind of read between the lines 216 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 7: in that sense, and you wonder where and when this 217 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 7: conversation might happen. And then yeah, the final quote that 218 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 7: he gave on the last question, I'm not gonna say 219 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 7: I fear being here or not right now. 220 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: It's with the Dallas Cowboys. 221 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 7: After the season, we'll see where we're at and if 222 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 7: the future holds that, if not, we'll go from there. 223 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 7: So yeah, it's it's fast standing he is standing on 224 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 7: business and another another thing, I want to be sure 225 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 7: and hit with CD apparently, you know, preparing to hold 226 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 7: out for a new contract. He was also asked, hey, 227 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 7: will you still be able to get working with CD 228 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 7: if that holdout takes you into training camp, et cetera. 229 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 7: He said, we'll get some work in. I've been in 230 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 7: communication with CD. Maybe a deal gets done, and if 231 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 7: it doesn't, I guarantee that we'll still find a lot 232 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 7: of time to get the work that we feel comfortable. 233 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 7: One note on both of these topics with Dak Prescott 234 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 7: and CD Lamb is that the Reliant Home run Derby 235 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 7: is next Wednesday, and both of them are expected to compete, 236 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 7: So there's could be a lot of headlines that come 237 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 7: out of next week. 238 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: For sure, the. 239 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: Home runs will not be the headline. 240 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, no, no, not quite. 241 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: I also kind of wanted to touch on he made 242 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: a few comments regarding the Cowboys offseason moves or lack thereof. 243 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: Did you kind of want to touch on that a 244 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: little bit? 245 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had. 246 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 7: I didn't really put it on this in this quote 247 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 7: box that I have here, but that was another thing 248 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 7: that he had talked with with Jerry about a couple 249 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 7: of weeks ago, and that was kind of playing into 250 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 7: there's not any gray area, so he understands where the 251 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 7: organization is at. He understands where things are at. He said, 252 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 7: He's focused on the guys in the locker room and 253 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 7: what he can do to pour into them over the 254 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 7: course of the off season. So I mean that was 255 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 7: that was you know, a typical deck answer and good sense. 256 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 257 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: So another topic that we have h Stephen Jones is 258 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: on the fan discussing offensive line. He discussed Trey Lance 259 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: a little bit, another thing that you touched on last 260 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: week at length. But I kind of wanted to get 261 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: your thoughts on this now that he actually said it 262 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: onto the record. You know, this is out there for 263 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: the world. With Mike Zimmer in the building. Obviously, the 264 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: defensive scheme is going to change a little bit, and 265 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: he said, we're going to be relying on a three 266 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: linebacker system. Bigger in the middle and uh less of 267 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: the uh uh yeah, just bigger in the middle basically. 268 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 8: So he said more, he said, more three linebacker as 269 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 8: opposed to two linebacker and three safety. 270 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: That's yeah, true, true, as pretty much a base defense. 271 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, but how four down, four down, three linebackers. 272 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 8: Historically, if in the last two or three years, I'm 273 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 8: not talking NFL has changed the entire. 274 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 5: League, NFL has changed personnel. 275 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 11: So if you are going to be in a more 276 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 11: traditional type setting where you have four down, three linebackers, 277 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 11: you better have some you better have some dbs, and 278 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 11: you better have some great covering outside linebackers. Because the 279 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 11: game of football has changed. It's eleven personnel. It is 280 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 11: eleven personnel. And for those that don't know what eleven 281 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 11: personnel is. One tight end, one running back, three receivers. 282 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 11: That is primarily what most teams line up in, whether 283 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 11: it's run or pass. Now, if it's a second and short, 284 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 11: third and short, yeah, you're gonna come out in a 285 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 11: twenty one or twenty two, whatever it might be personnel 286 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 11: to change up. You know the amount of tight ends 287 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 11: and running backs that you have in the backfield. But 288 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 11: I can't foresee this team turning into a traditional base 289 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 11: defense in this NFL. And with the lack of picks 290 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 11: that you have in this year's draft, and the fact 291 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 11: that most of free agency is gone, So where are 292 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 11: you going to acquire all these extra assets that are 293 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 11: going to now feel the voids that you have in 294 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 11: this new system. 295 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: It was my concern last week. 296 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 11: It was my concern as soon as they brought Zim 297 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 11: Roun staff, I was like, I can't see it. I 298 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 11: don't know how they get there with the current roster 299 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 11: that he's walking into. 300 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 7: So let's frum the tally. What would you need to 301 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 7: be able to put together a base defense right now? 302 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 7: Based on what this team needs, probably two defensive tackles, 303 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 7: at least one more linebacker another end. 304 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say two. 305 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 11: You need at least two more linebackers because you would 306 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 11: love over Showing to come back and be healthy. 307 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. You got pretty healthy. 308 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 5: I mean, but we had, you know, we have. 309 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 11: Unfortunately, what happened to Jabrill Cox kind of gave you 310 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 11: a peek into the window of what could happen when 311 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 11: Oversheon gets back. You just have to be obviously I'm 312 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 11: not putting that on him, but that just you have 313 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 11: to be realistic about that about what he's coming back as, 314 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 11: because you would you had a really athletic you know, 315 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 11: Cox and linebacker. He was a beast fast, and then 316 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 11: he got hurt and then he came back and he 317 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 11: just wasn't that right, whether it was confidence, whether it's ability. 318 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 11: So you're hoping that that's not the story for overshone. 319 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 11: So I would like to come into the season without 320 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 11: the expectation that Overshow is going to be what he 321 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 11: was prior to injury, and plan for his replacement and 322 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 11: in hope for the best, right and then just have 323 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 11: that extra depth there. So if I'm not factoring overshown 324 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 11: into it, now all of a sudden you got Damon 325 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 11: Clark and you got Kendricks. 326 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: That's it. 327 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a minimum too and then hope for 328 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: the best basically with overshown and you know, let him 329 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: do what he needs to do to kind of get healthy. 330 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 11: But you talked about the size up front. You're severely undersized, 331 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 11: like not just a little bit. Yeah, you are severely 332 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 11: undersized for not only what mister Jones just said, right, 333 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 11: Stephen Jones just said about going to a traditional four 334 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 11: to three seemingly or historically what Zimmer has done with 335 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 11: a three four. Either way, you are severely undersized. And 336 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 11: how do you rectify that? 337 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 338 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 7: M just add more beef, as to add as much 339 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 7: beef as you possibly can. 340 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 11: And the draft I think, I think training table is 341 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 11: going to change the type of foods are serving. 342 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: It's not gonna be training table, it is gonna be 343 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: fatting table. 344 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 8: I mean, you're gonna be able to fill out the 345 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 8: roster and get the right body types. The problem is 346 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 8: that are you going to have quality there because this 347 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 8: team's gonna I think they're gonna make I don't know, 348 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 8: two three, four undrafted guys, the guys that possibly make 349 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 8: this roster just because they're gonna need extra body. 350 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 6: I can see a linebacker they don't even draft. 351 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 8: That's a guy that's depth but also special teams that 352 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 8: makes this roster. I mean it's kind of like last year, 353 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 8: like you had a pretty good idea with that when 354 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 8: they signed TJ. Bass after the draft, Like, yeah, as 355 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 8: he good as maybe a top three pick, top you know, 356 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 8: first three round pick, probably not, but he had a 357 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 8: good chance of making the roster because hey, look at 358 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 8: what they need. You know, that's why he signed with 359 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 8: the Cowboys because it was gonna be a great opportunity 360 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 8: to make the roster. I think linebacker you can fill 361 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 8: out a little bit that way. The defensive tackle, particularly 362 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 8: the big one technique, that's the one where I'm just like, 363 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 8: I don't know where you're really finding somebody like this. 364 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 7: There's not many in the draft either, Yeah, a lot. 365 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 11: So you're going and obviously you can speak to that 366 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 11: all day long. You're going into this season heavily relying 367 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 11: upon rookies. Let's just call it what it is. Yeah, 368 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 11: young guys in general, young guys in general, rookies, undraft 369 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 11: second year guys, you're going into this season heavily relying 370 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 11: upon it in a year in which you did not 371 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 11: get a lot of productivity out of your draft. 372 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 373 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 8: So if you have this big breakout year two for 374 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 8: Mazzie Smith, are you feeling a lot better? 375 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 11: I feel a lot better. But I mean, we have 376 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 11: his work to look at, right, That's all we have. 377 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 11: You know, we can hope all day long. 378 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 5: We can wish. 379 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 11: I had a lot of wish sandwiches growing up, you know, 380 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 11: I wish my sandwiches were actually has some meat on it. 381 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 11: But there no a lot of times it was just 382 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 11: honey and bread, you knows. 383 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 8: And it's not only that I hate to be I 384 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 8: hate to be the downer here on all this, but 385 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,359 Speaker 8: name the last player that really didn't give you anything 386 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 8: year one and just super ascended the next year. Like now, 387 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 8: there could be like a little bit in year one 388 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 8: and then they take the next step in your two. 389 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 8: But I'm talking like, you get almost nothing from and 390 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 8: then year two you're just like, whoa where did this 391 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 8: guy come from? 392 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 5: We're on the podcast, Let's do it. 393 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 6: I can't think. 394 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: I was at Broadcast boot camp. 395 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 11: There were offensive linemen there who played against the Dallas 396 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 11: Cowboys last year. We had conversations on the on the bus, 397 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 11: you know, lunchtime, and one of the offensive linemen that 398 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 11: I was with was literally laughing at He was like, 399 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 11: he didn't even know the name, but I knew he 400 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 11: was talking about. He was talking about Mazi at the time. 401 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 11: He was laughing about it. He's like, man, who was 402 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 11: that little dude they brought in here? He's like, man, 403 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 11: I was moving him all over the dog on field. 404 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 11: He was so light in the butt. This is coming 405 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 11: from somebody who plays. 406 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: Early in the season or late in the season. 407 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 7: I'm curious because if you say earlier the season, that'll 408 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 7: worry me more. 409 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no way he was light early in this later. 410 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 11: But he was like, but the way in which he 411 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 11: was talking about it was like, why is he out here? 412 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: And that was disturbing to me. 413 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 11: Obviously when you're having good conversation, but obviously as a Cowboys. 414 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: Analyst, I'm like, Ooh, that's not good. That's not good. 415 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 11: So if that's who you're relying upon currently, obviously you're 416 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 11: hoping that he puts on more way obviously you're coming. 417 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 11: You're hoping that he comes in with a different mindset, 418 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 11: has a lot greater impact. We can hope, hope all 419 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 11: day long. But just going up, that's the reputation that 420 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 11: he currently has around the NFL, and guys are confident 421 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 11: going against them. 422 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: So I'm saying you're relying heavily upon him. 423 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 11: To make a one hundred and eighty degree change in 424 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 11: size and effectiveness, as well as trying to fill voids 425 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 11: with other guys who, as we know today, are unproven. 426 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 6: I'm seriously going through my head right now. 427 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 8: Don't know if you're looking it up, but like I'm 428 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 8: going through my head right now the entire not that 429 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 8: I wasn't listening. I was just no if I'm going 430 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 8: through like all the draft picks and like I'm thinking 431 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 8: all the Trayvon Diggs, Micah Parsons, Drawn Blands, all these 432 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 8: guys showed you a flash in year one. They showed 433 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 8: you something where you're just like, no, no, no, no, there's 434 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 8: there's probably there's a little bit more there. I'm not 435 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 8: saying that you can't all of a sudden just be 436 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 8: like especially defensive tackle is a position like that where hey, 437 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 8: you might not see the best of the best of 438 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 8: that player year one, year two. It takes them some time. 439 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 8: So this is certainly a possibility here. I'm just going 440 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 8: off of the Cowboys track record of drafting generally. The 441 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 8: players that have contributed, you've you've known pretty early on, 442 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 8: oh yeah, there's something here. We saw flash heck, I 443 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 8: thought last year a training camp and even before that 444 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 8: preseason game, you saw some of that from de Marvion overshow, 445 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 8: And that's what made me think, oh, no, no, no, 446 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 8: this dude's a rookie, but I can see him being 447 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: part of packages because we saw little flashes here or there. 448 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's gonna step in and be something. 449 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 11: There's something exactly, yeah, And that was what kind of 450 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 11: disturbed me about the conversation that I had with some 451 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 11: of these players that were at the same event. It 452 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 11: was the fact that I didn't even hear the word 453 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 11: fight or resilience or he got that dog or you know, 454 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 11: it was not even associated with his effectiveness of play, 455 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 11: but just like yeah, like I was able to move him, 456 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 11: but like, yeah, that boy fights, Like there was there 457 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 11: was none of. 458 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: That just lighten lightening the butt. 459 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 7: Right now, what I'm doing is going through this photo 460 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 7: that they posted at that boot camp to try to 461 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 7: figure out who Isaiah's talking about. 462 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: All right, well, let's take our first break, Chris. 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Now, 513 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 18: just a reminder that I don't need to be a 514 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 18: real doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the one 515 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 18: you deserve. 516 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 12: To Talking Cowboys. 517 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome back to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Raffle Coffee, 518 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 519 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: Our next segment is brought to you by Quaker. 520 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: Oats the uh A supercrested superfood Quaker Oats, the official 521 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: oatmeal sponsor of Dallas Cowboys. I'm gonna turn over to 522 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: the oat goat, Isaiah, standback. 523 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: Did you get your oats? Insight? 524 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 18: It not? 525 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 11: Unfortunately, by the time I got to the building, even 526 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 11: though I got here substantially earlier than I normally do, 527 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 11: because I was coming from an event they had a 528 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 11: ready shut down the Oats. 529 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 4: You gotta be careful, saying oak goat. 530 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: All right, we got to get into the NFL Draft. 531 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: It's this week. 532 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 4: It's just let's get it. 533 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? 534 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 12: Man? 535 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: Come on? 536 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 5: All right? 537 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: I was looking at Twitter this week. A really good question. 538 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry X this week refuse really good topic brought 539 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 3: up by at John Machoda trade up or trade down? 540 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's good. Give him a follow on ask 541 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: that do you expect the Cowboys to pick. 542 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: At twenty four or would you trade up or trade down? 543 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 7: So I said this on the Draft show yesterday. This 544 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 7: is this is my feeling as of today, Tuesday, April 545 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 7: twenty three to ten twenty five am this. This could 546 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: change your quote right now, yeah, in the moment, as 547 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 7: of now, I think I think if one of three 548 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 7: guys are on the board at twenty four, I think 549 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 7: they pick at twenty four. If either of those three 550 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 7: are off the board, I think they trade back. This 551 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 7: is just this is just my opinion. Troy Faltanu guard 552 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 7: slash tackle out of mister standback Washington there. 553 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he'll be there either. 554 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 7: JC Latham tackles slash guard out of Alabama, third year guy, 555 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 7: and then Graham Barton tackle guard center out of Duke. 556 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 7: I personally have a little bit more pessimism than I 557 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 7: think most when it comes to either of those three 558 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 7: guys being on the board. I give it like a 559 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 7: thirty percent chance that at least one of them will 560 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 7: be on the board. That's kind of what I feel 561 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 7: right now. If none of those three guys are on 562 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 7: the board, I don't think they pick at twenty four. 563 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 7: I think they're para shooting back and getting on the 564 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 7: phone with Baltimore at thirty or Casey at thirty two. 565 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 7: You also got San Francisco at thirty one. Also, wouldn't 566 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 7: be surprised if they trade out of the first round entirely. 567 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 7: I mean, they need to pick up some extra capital 568 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 7: that not having that fourth round pick not only does 569 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 7: that hurt, but they don't pick until the end of 570 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 7: the fifth So they're going from eighty seven on day 571 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 7: two in round three to one seventy four on day 572 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 7: three in round five. That's eighty seven picks in between 573 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 7: that you're just watching go by. There's a lot of 574 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 7: really good talent there. For me, I feel like the 575 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 7: Day three talent obviously it is at the top, but 576 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: I feel like it's really top heavy. I feel like 577 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 7: once you get into round six, round seven, you're starting 578 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 7: to reach a little bit more than you would in 579 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 7: past years. 580 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: In round six. 581 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 7: In round seven, they need to pick up an early 582 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 7: Day three pick, and I think the best way to 583 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 7: do that trade back six, seven, eight, nine, ten spots 584 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 7: in the first round or go back into the second 585 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 7: round and get that extra pick. 586 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: Would it hurt to get out of the first round 587 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: for you just oh no, no, no, I'd I'd be 588 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: completely okay with it, especially if you could pick up 589 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: two picks along the way. Yeah, just kind of based 590 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: on trade packages and things of the sort, you could 591 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: get a third and a fifth, you know, if trading 592 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: back into the trading out of the first round. But 593 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean even trading back to thirty two with Kansas City, 594 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: you run the opportunity of getting a third and a fourth. 595 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: So it's I think picking up those extra picks. 596 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 7: I think that would be huge, especially if you can 597 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 7: sneak one into the top one hundred so that you 598 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 7: can still get a top one hundred pick. And I 599 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 7: feel like they could still get a quality offensive lineman 600 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 7: there in the early thirties to mid thirties. Maybe not 601 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 7: the guy that they could get a twenty four, obviously, 602 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 7: but I think they could still get a guy in 603 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 7: the early to mid thirties that can contribute immediately on 604 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 7: the offensive line, or just go ahead and get the 605 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: number one linebacker in the class. So that would I 606 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 7: think those are the options, and certainly everything that's being 607 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 7: talked about up there, for sure, John, it was your question. 608 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 8: So yeah, so I think they're gonna do everything possible 609 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 8: to trade back, but obviously you need a partner, and 610 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 8: so that'll be the key thing. 611 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: So at the Athletic we do. 612 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 8: A couple different mock drafts throughout this time of the year, 613 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 8: and we just did our final one yesterday, and so 614 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 8: every writer picks for their team. And my whole goal 615 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 8: was to get out of twenty four, just to see 616 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 8: what else would be there if you move back. 617 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 6: And I tried. 618 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 8: So hard to get a trade back with so many 619 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 8: different teams, and the only one I could get was 620 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 8: with Kansas City, and all I got was their third 621 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 8: for it, and I did it. And I will tell 622 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 8: you this right now, if you get all the way back. 623 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 6: To thirty two. 624 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 8: Man, you're gonna get nervous about those offensive linemen. And 625 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 8: here's the thing. If you go back thirty two plus 626 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 8: a little bit more, and let's say you get out 627 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 8: of the first round, then your first pick and your 628 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 8: your draft could be like Junior Colson or Jonathan Brooks. 629 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: Like, are you fine with that? 630 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you would have to be. 631 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 7: I think if you're going back to the mid second round, 632 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 7: I think the hope would be that Edrin Cooper or 633 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 7: Peyton Wilson is one of those top two linebackers. I 634 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 7: this kind of based on hearsay. I think there's a 635 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 7: little bit more preference with Cooper just because there's not 636 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 7: as many medical concerns. But I think you could still 637 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 7: get back in those mid thirties and then you try 638 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 7: to address offensive line later in day two, which you're 639 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 7: running that risk. But there's some good tackles there in 640 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 7: the second round and third round that you can move 641 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 7: around with and you can be flexible with. But it 642 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 7: sounds like Kansas City is probably the most likely partner 643 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 7: because they need a receiver, and I think there could 644 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 7: be a drop of a couple of receivers just based 645 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 7: on other positions being valued a little bit higher here 646 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 7: in the first round on Thursday night, And if there's 647 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 7: names like Brian Thomas Junior and Xavier Worthy and ad 648 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 7: A Ni Mitchell, Lad McConkie still available there at twenty four, 649 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 7: then it would not surprise me if Buffalo or Kansas 650 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 7: City get on the phone with the Cowboys to try 651 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 7: to go ahead and move up to twenty four take 652 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 7: that receiver before the other one does it. Because both 653 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 7: of those teams are receiver needy right now, you would 654 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 7: have to assume both of them are taking one. 655 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 8: Not to give away too much because the mock draft 656 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 8: comes out tomorrow morning. 657 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 6: But so I did that thinking the. 658 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: Same thing, and they didn't take a receiver. 659 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 8: Kingsley Sue Matteah and I was like yes, And I 660 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 8: was like, Okay, this is not good. 661 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 6: This is not good. Like I'm already regretting this, like 662 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 6: moving all the way back. 663 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, because I'm fine with the trade back. But I 664 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 8: got to get an offensive lineman out of it. That 665 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 8: just me personally, because this team's drafted very well offensive lineman. 666 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 8: They and honestly, when I say that, it could even 667 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 8: be a guard, like it needs to be an offensive lineman. 668 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 8: For me personally, I don't know if you guys feel differently, 669 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 8: but I was saying that last year during the season 670 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 8: that I felt strongly at their first round pick would be. 671 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 6: An offensive lineman. 672 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 8: And that's before you know they lost obviously Tyron Smith 673 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 8: and Tyler be Ottish. 674 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: So uh yeah. 675 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 8: It's tough though, because you don't want to move back 676 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 8: too far and then all of a sudden, you know 677 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 8: you're kind of wiped out of this clump of players. 678 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 8: And I think that's I bring that up because I 679 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 8: think that's the way that they'll look at it too, 680 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 8: is that there will have to be a group of 681 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 8: players where they're like, all right, we got these five 682 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 8: or six guys, we can move back five or six 683 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 8: spots because we know we'll get. 684 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 6: One of these guys. 685 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 8: Whereas for me, I was just like, let me just 686 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 8: move back because it's an exercise. I just want people 687 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 8: to see what could potentially be there if you move 688 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 8: all the way back to thirty two and it gets 689 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 8: kind of thin, man, Yeah, it gets kind of thin 690 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 8: back there. 691 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: Isaiah, stand trade forward, trade back? Stand Pat, what do 692 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: you think stand back? 693 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 11: I think I'm on the mindset of Nick I think 694 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 11: that they have a handful of guys that they would grab, 695 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 11: but if they're not there as much as they will 696 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 11: want to pick at twenty four, I think you have 697 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 11: to look at your roster. Then you have to look 698 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 11: at your salary cap, and you have to look in 699 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 11: and say, how many players can we get for the 700 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 11: least amount of money. That's really what this decision is 701 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 11: coming down to. Either we get a really good, really 702 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 11: good impact player who's just sitting there that we really want, 703 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 11: or dang it. 704 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 5: He's gone. They're gone. 705 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 11: We got to add value now because you know, I 706 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 11: got twenty bucks and I got five kids defeet you 707 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 11: know what I mean. 708 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: Like, that's the situation they're in. 709 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 11: They have a little bit of money, and they got 710 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 11: to try to get as much as they can for 711 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 11: that amount of money. So sometimes you got to go discount, 712 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 11: double check, and you got to go find you some 713 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 11: value with more picks. And even though that's not the 714 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 11: most popular thing, that's the responsible thing. And I think 715 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 11: that as hard as it is for the front office 716 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 11: right now, for the Cowboys, I think they're doing the 717 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 11: responsible thing just holistically as an organization, and it's not 718 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 11: fun for fans. And it's not cool, and it doesn't 719 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 11: make headlines, and it doesn't add it doesn't equal up 720 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 11: to the going all in and all that jazz stuff 721 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 11: that everybody expected. But as they're doing the responsible thing 722 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 11: by waiting guys out, making guys prove it, holding on 723 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 11: to as much money as they can, trying to get 724 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 11: their books back in order, they're not just continuingly swiping 725 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 11: their credit card. 726 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 6: What's the move there on twenty dollars feet five kids? 727 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 6: What would you do? 728 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 5: Listen here? 729 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 11: It's not none of our sponsorsa up. 730 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've stressed that, all right. 731 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: I got another post from x year from at Nick 732 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: Harris DC, A really good person to follow, who is 733 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: one player, regardless of round, Gray, that you're most confident 734 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: will be in a Cowboys uniform by the end of 735 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: the week. 736 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, there was an overwhelming consensus, and I honestly I 737 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 7: was thinking about putting a little disclaimer out on the 738 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 7: tweet before I sent it out. You can't say Jonathan Brooks, 739 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 7: but I didn't, and everyone just said Jonathan Brooks. So 740 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 7: Jonathan Brooks out of Texas a running back. I mean, 741 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 7: every mock you look at has him pinned to the 742 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 7: Cowboys at fifty six running back from Texas As I said, 743 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 7: he's from Howlettsville, originally down in central Texas. He's a 744 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 7: top five rusher all time in Texas high school football history. 745 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 7: Almost want to stay championship at AT and T Stadium back 746 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty, but went to the University of Texas, 747 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 7: sat behind Roshawn Johnson and b John Robinson for two 748 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 7: years and then got his opportunity to start last year. 749 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 7: Man super productive almost six yards per carry, but he 750 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 7: tours ACL late in the season against TCU. It was 751 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 7: late November. Had his ACL surgery performed by doctor Dan Cooper, 752 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 7: who is the Cowboys team physician. So the Cowboys have 753 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 7: more medical intel on him than arguably any other team. 754 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 7: With that being said, it's probably kind of caught up 755 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 7: by now because when he goes to the Combine, when 756 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 7: he goes on these thirty visits, they can evaluate him 757 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 7: to the very needle of where that surgery kind of 758 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 7: was performed. So a lot of other teams have that 759 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 7: same information, but the Cowboys they just kind of had 760 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 7: a leg up and doing the homework on him. They 761 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 7: met with him at the Combine. I believe and know 762 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 7: for sure. They brought him in for a thirty visit, 763 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 7: so they have definitely done their homework on him. I 764 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 7: think the only concern that you run there is will 765 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 7: he be there at fifty six. There has only been 766 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 7: one draft in the modern draft era that has seen 767 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 7: the first running back come off the board after pick 768 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 7: fifty six, So you would have to assume that that 769 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 7: would need to happen again this time around, because it's 770 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 7: between Jonathan Brooks and Trey Benson out of Florida State. 771 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 7: To my right, Johma showed us Florida State seminals. One 772 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 7: of those two guys will most likely be the first 773 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 7: running back off the board. And if it's Brooks, does 774 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 7: he get to fifty six? You know, there's there are 775 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 7: other teams that have brought him in for thirty visits. 776 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 7: The Panthers they pick at thirty three, and at thirty 777 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 7: nine they brought him in for a thirty visit. 778 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: I believe the Packers as well. You could also look at. 779 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 7: The Eagles being a sneaky contender there for Jonathan Brooks's 780 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 7: there's some there are some teams in front that you 781 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 7: would kind of have to sweat out not picking Brooks 782 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 7: but I think that's the safest pick right now. It 783 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 7: was like going into the draft last year, Demarvin Overshown 784 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 7: was It was kind of the one that everyone was 785 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 7: looking around like, Okay, this one just feels right right, 786 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 7: and he ended up happening. 787 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: There in the third round. 788 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 7: It feels a little bit of the same, But I 789 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 7: don't think there was as many concerns with Overshown last 790 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 7: year about him getting picked before whatever that pick was 791 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 7: last year. 792 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit more with Brooks. 793 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 5: You hear something I. 794 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: Do, Sorry, okay or nuts just asking mainly for the 795 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: fan here. Do you think picking up Royce Freeman changes 796 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: your strategy at all at drafting a running back at two? 797 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: No, I don't believe. 798 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 7: So I think you still need to go get an 799 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 7: RB one. Think like, think about the signing of Ronald 800 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 7: Jones last year. Granted, take it a little bit more 801 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 7: seriously because Ronald Jones had the cases had the issue 802 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 7: at training camp last year where he was suspended for 803 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 7: the first two games. I feel like he never was 804 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 7: able to get a fair shot as a result of that, 805 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 7: and he was dropped as soon as that two game 806 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 7: suspension was up. 807 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 4: So I think I think. 808 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 7: Ronald Jones with a little bit more health and as 809 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 7: of now a little bit better standing with the league. 810 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 7: But I think it's just training camp competition and to 811 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 7: bring a veteran in the room. I mean, that'll help 812 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 7: whether there's a rookie in there or not. 813 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 11: Isaiah, I agree, I agree. It doesn't change my approach. 814 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 11: It doesn't change my approach. You have to get a 815 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 11: running back. 816 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 7: Do you need to because there's something that say you 817 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 7: need to running backs in this draft? Do you need 818 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 7: to know you need one running back? I think, I think, 819 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 7: I agree, yeah. 820 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 11: But you need a But you need a starter, and 821 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 11: that's what that's what causes you. That's what causes me 822 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 11: concern because you need a starter at running back, but 823 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 11: you need to start two starters at offensive line, and 824 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 11: you need a starter at defensive line. I'm sorry, Yeah, 825 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 11: that's four four positions, four starters, four starters. 826 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 8: You can draft a running back and find one and 827 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 8: undrafted rookie free agency. 828 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 6: But if that's the if that's the happen, then. 829 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 11: But I'm saying, but you need starters, you need a 830 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 11: you need a star running back, you need two star 831 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 11: officeive lineman. 832 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 5: You can get away with one. Yeah, I'll get away 833 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 5: argue one. So you can get away with one. At 834 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 5: the very least, you need a star. 835 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 11: You need a big boy office a lineman, and you 836 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 11: need a big dog on the defensive line. Oh and 837 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 11: you need a big boy linebacker. You need a lot 838 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 11: of big boys in terms of like people to come 839 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 11: in and play now, not to supplement what you already have. 840 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 11: You need them to come in and be the guy. 841 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 11: And that's what concerns me about this year's draft. You 842 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 11: need the guy at running back, the guy at office 843 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 11: of line, the guy at defensive line, the guy at linebacker. 844 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's realistic. 845 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 7: I think you need the guy at linebacker. You see 846 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 7: the guy at linebacker. 847 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 5: Okay, you might I agree with you. 848 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 4: You might need the guy run back, defensive tackle. 849 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: I don't necessarily with linebacker, but yeah, I mean still, 850 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 7: there's there's too many there's too many holes. You need 851 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 7: a guy on the offensive line as well. So it's like, 852 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 7: because as of now, as of today's stance, the offensive 853 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 7: line would be left tackle Tyler Smith, left guard TJ. Bass, 854 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 7: center brock Hoffman, right guard Zach Martin, right tackle Terrence Steele. 855 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 4: You need some competition in that interior. 856 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 7: Whether that's putting Tyler Smith back inside, or it's uh 857 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 7: bringing in a guy like Graham Barton or Cedric Vampur 858 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 7: and Granger out of Georgia to be able to have 859 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 7: a little bit more competition in that interior. But I 860 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 7: think one thing that could also, man, this would this 861 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 7: would be a fun topic to talk about after the 862 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 7: fact if the Cowboys take one of those receivers at 863 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 7: twenty four that are slipping and I I would hate 864 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 7: that personally. I just think that's that's a that's a 865 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 7: bad strategy because you could you could sell that pick 866 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 7: for a little bit more than probably what it's worth 867 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 7: and move back to that Kansas City spot and pick. 868 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 5: Up an extra pick. You take it back right now. 869 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 4: I'm telling you what my stance is. 870 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 7: I'm saying it would be an interesting thing to talk 871 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 7: about after the fact if they do take a Brian 872 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 7: Thomas junior, because yes, this is an instant playmaker, He's 873 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 7: going to be able to, you know, sit right next 874 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 7: to CD. But I could also be like, hey, CD, 875 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 7: we got this other guy that can make plays too. 876 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: You know. 877 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: It's it's one of those senses. There would be a 878 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: lot of conversations, be able to get the ball to 879 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 3: him in time exactly. 880 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 4: That's the question. I'm not for it. 881 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm not for it. Don't get me wrong. 882 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 5: They're still dude by the name of Cooks here there is, but. 883 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 7: He's only got one more year left on his deal. 884 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 7: You know, you would have to think you have to 885 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 7: start planning for the future outside of him. I think 886 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 7: you need to draft a receiver on day three. But 887 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 7: what if they're like, hey, this guy's here at twenty four, 888 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 7: we have him, let's say fifteen on our board. Let's 889 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 7: let's not win a dress it. Let's take the guy. 890 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 7: And so they take the guy at twenty four, and 891 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 7: then they don't they wait till day two to address 892 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, I would I would be very upset. 893 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: Take a hard boys, we got to take all. We 894 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: got to take our second break more from Talking Cowboys. 895 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 9: When we return, they say champions are remembered, but legends 896 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 9: are never forgotten. 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It's available for 971 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 7: say ten bucks. You can order it now and it'll 972 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 7: be on your doorstep by by draft night, you could 973 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 7: be the smartest person in the room. 974 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 5: Baby. 975 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 7: Shout out to ky me and him put on a 976 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 7: lot of legwork on that. On that thing, man, look. 977 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 5: Now, why there's no Washington player on a cover? Hate 978 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 5: it man? They put an Organ guy right in the middle. 979 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 7: Whenever we were thinking about like who we should put 980 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 7: on the cover, we were like, you know what we 981 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 7: should not do. We should not put a wash that 982 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 7: sounds we can piss off. 983 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 11: Washington guy is definitely going to going to get drafted 984 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 11: before Organ guy. 985 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,959 Speaker 5: Maybe two guys. 986 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that's valid. 987 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 7: But uh, anyway, as far as Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Uh, 988 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 7: we'll be putting out a lot of draft content this 989 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 7: week for me personally, putting out a top one hundred 990 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 7: list as far as and position rankings leading up into 991 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 7: the draft. Yeah, just kind of preview that as of 992 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 7: right now, and I think this will probably stand. I 993 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 7: have nineteen first round grades and uh, I'll be able 994 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 7: to touch on those a little bit. I think there 995 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 7: might be a couple of surprises depending on who you 996 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 7: ask as far as who's in the second round grades. 997 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 7: A couple of guys that I'm higher on than others. 998 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 7: Andrew Phillips Kentucky corner. I have him as of right 999 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 7: now thirty four on my stack. I think he's a 1000 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 7: guy that's an early second round type talent. Haven't really 1001 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 7: heard a whole lot about him as far as going 1002 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 7: in the second round. Another corner is Kyrie Jackson out 1003 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 7: of Oregon, a press guy who I think is big 1004 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 7: time and has crazy length that I think would work 1005 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 7: in a Mike Zimmer system, although I think he could 1006 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 7: be picked earlier than some imagine really good corner draft man. 1007 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 7: It was really tough to kind of stack these corners 1008 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 7: up because there are so many of all the positions. 1009 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 7: I had more corners in the top one hundred than 1010 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 7: any other position. So if you're looking for day three 1011 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 7: value to go ahead and go grab a corner, I 1012 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 7: think there might be some guys there. If you're thinking 1013 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 7: from a Cowboys perspective, if you feel like they need 1014 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 7: to go get a corner on day three, then maybe 1015 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 7: that's maybe that's the Maybe that's the play there. Corner 1016 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 7: a wide receiver you have to draft one and you 1017 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 7: can only draft one. Which which one are you going? 1018 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 5: Corner? 1019 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 6: For sure? 1020 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: Corner corner? 1021 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: I just think that the depth there is it's underrated 1022 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 3: to have depth at corner, and I think wide receiver 1023 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 3: we've kind of made do with. 1024 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 5: Or not having guilt round give me like a. 1025 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: Fifth or after. 1026 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 7: More so six to seventh, probably a corner, Probably a corner. Yeah, 1027 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 7: I think there's a case to be made for both 1028 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 7: because outside of Ceedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks this next year, 1029 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 7: you have a lot of unknown behind those two. Granted, yes, 1030 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 7: Jalen Tolbert stepped up and did what he was asked 1031 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 7: to do last year, and there's probably if he stays 1032 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 7: on the same line in trajectory, there's probably another step 1033 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 7: that he can take. And man, they are relying on 1034 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 7: him to be able to take that next step and 1035 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 7: be the solidified wide receiver three. Is he ready for 1036 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 7: that type of role? 1037 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 2: Though? 1038 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 7: Then you also have Turp, who I've heard is ready 1039 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 7: to be lined up for a big offensive opportunity next 1040 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 7: season as well, even bigger than what he had last season. 1041 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 7: You also have Jalen Brooks, who was wide receiver five 1042 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 7: on the roster last year and still has an opportunity 1043 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 7: to step up and be that again this year. 1044 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 5: Greatest camp out of anybody last year. 1045 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did have an awesome camp, Yeah 1046 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 7: he did. 1047 00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: Him and Hunter Luk. 1048 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 7: Honestly, Lipy was awful, like the first three weeks of 1049 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 7: camp and then that Oakland or Vegas preseason game, he 1050 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 7: just exploded. But I think there is a case to 1051 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 7: be made for receiver. But yeah, you look at corner, 1052 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 7: you look at the depth there, you would have to 1053 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 7: assume you lose to Von Gilmore. He hasn't signed with 1054 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 7: anybody yet, but you would have to assume you lose him. 1055 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 7: If one of those three guys gets hurt, Digs Bland Lewis, 1056 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 7: then you're you're in a real pickle. 1057 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm probably with you guys on corner. 1058 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 7: And the depth is so good at corner, I think 1059 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 7: you can get a guy on day three that can 1060 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 7: be a reliable depth option, more reliable than Naseean Wright 1061 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 7: was all right, we're gonna have to. 1062 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 8: I was gonna say real quick, the whole corner thing, like, 1063 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 8: there's gonna be a good corners available at twenty four. 1064 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 8: The one thing I will say about that is as 1065 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 8: great as it would be to put three stud corners 1066 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 8: all together, can you pay three stud corners? 1067 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 5: You know what? 1068 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 8: I'm saying, can you put that much money you already 1069 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 8: know you already got the money and Digs, you already 1070 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 8: know that you're gonna pay dround Bland, Like, can you 1071 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 8: really afford to have a first round pickt That's the 1072 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 8: only reason why I don't see that being up. 1073 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, it won't be a first round for sure. Yeah, 1074 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 7: I don't think it'll be early pick at all. I 1075 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 7: think it's more so you get a guy on Day 1076 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 7: three and hope he can just be a reliable depth 1077 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 7: option for you, because man, I think had they had 1078 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 7: reliable depth last season to be able to tell Stefunk Gilmore, hey, 1079 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 7: you can rest this game against the Packers. 1080 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 4: We have a guy that we trust to be able 1081 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 4: to lock. 1082 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 7: It down and be able to keep true to ourselves schematically, 1083 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 7: then I think there may have been a little bit 1084 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 7: a different result there. I'm not saying they win that 1085 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 7: game because there were so many problems with that game, 1086 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 7: but I think there would have been a little bit 1087 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 7: of a difference there. 1088 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: I think a difference could have been made. 1089 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 7: But you see how much that the lack of depth 1090 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 7: hurt at times last season, and even when Diggs was down, 1091 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 7: I mean there was a lot of concern early on, like, hey, 1092 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 7: can Bland step up and do this? You're just fortunate 1093 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 7: that you had a first team All Pro waiting behind, 1094 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 7: So yeah. 1095 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: For sure, and if, especially if we don't bring Gilmour back, 1096 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 3: I think that would it would just make sense to 1097 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 3: have depth there. Overall, any other position groups you kind 1098 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: of are looking at, as far as the top one 1099 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 3: hundred goes. 1100 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 7: I think offensive line if you're looking at if you're 1101 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 7: looking at the Cowboys to take a tackle, I think 1102 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 7: if they wait until round three, it might be too late. 1103 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: And that's that's where it gets a little dicey. 1104 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 7: You got Blake Fisher out of Notre Dame, Roger Rosengarden 1105 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 7: out of Washington, who I really love. I think he's awesome, 1106 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 7: and I think he could go anywhere from late first 1107 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 7: round to late third round. There's a huge range on 1108 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 7: how teams view him. But if either of those guys 1109 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 7: are available there at eighty seven, you haven't taken that tackle. 1110 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 7: I think either of those options could be solid, But 1111 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 7: after that there is a huge drop off. So getting 1112 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 7: that offensive tackle on Day three, especially if you don't 1113 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 7: have a fourth round pick, my goodness, that would be 1114 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 7: extremely tough, and I think we could go into Day 1115 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 7: three comfortably saying, Okay, Tyler Smith is starting at left 1116 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 7: tackle this season, so that's one thing to keep an 1117 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 7: eye on. Also, you know, taking a guard early on, 1118 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 7: could that possibly, you know, be more realistic than we think. 1119 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 7: You know, that's something to kind of think about as well. 1120 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 7: Do they view some of these tackles as guards. That'll 1121 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 7: be immediate questions that you know we would have when 1122 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 7: they take a lot of versatile guys in this draft. 1123 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 7: But yeah, there's gonna be a lot. There's gonna be 1124 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 7: a lot. Man, I'm really excited about it. 1125 00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 5: Now. 1126 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: Final question for you guys. 1127 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to get into like the actual pick necessarily, 1128 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: but first pick Cowboys make in the NFL Draft, what 1129 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 3: position will it be? 1130 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 5: Off the line? 1131 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: Offensive line? 1132 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 5: Line? 1133 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 3: Just line, no center, guard, specific off of the line, 1134 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 3: offensive line, easy. 1135 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 6: Boom, I'm gonna say left tackle. 1136 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 7: Oh specific, Yeah, I'll I'll go I'll go safe pick 1137 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 7: here and just say offensive line too. Yeah, Because I 1138 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 7: mean those three guys that I mentioned earlier, you look 1139 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,439 Speaker 7: at Troy FALTONO, JC Latham, Graham Barton, and my eyes, 1140 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 7: those are all interior guys. You could put jac Latham 1141 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 7: at left tackle. I think I think that you would 1142 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 7: have the most flexibility with him. And I'm curious with 1143 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 7: what you think about Troy Faltono. Do you think he 1144 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 7: could be a left tackle at the next level. I 1145 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 7: think he's I like him inside as well. I think 1146 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 7: he has the mobility in athleticism to try him out 1147 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 7: at left tackle. 1148 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 4: He is a dog. 1149 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 7: But I think if you don't get any of those 1150 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 7: three guys and you're trading back, then you're probably looking 1151 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 7: at a Jordan Morgan out of Arizona, who I also like, 1152 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 7: is a guard. 1153 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 4: You're also looking. 1154 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 7: At potentially, Uh gosh, I'm trying to think a guy 1155 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 7: Tyler Guyton. 1156 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that would be a tackle option. 1157 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 7: But I'm starting to think more and more that there 1158 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 7: might be a guard that is the first pick, and 1159 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 7: Tyler Smith is just a. 1160 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 6: Little It's funny. 1161 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 8: It's funny, you said, because if you go back three 1162 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 8: hundred and sixty five days, there was nobody talking about 1163 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 8: Matthew bergeron and you see that those video from that 1164 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 8: draft room come out. Now it came down to Berger 1165 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 8: around and Mazzie Smith and how close it was. And 1166 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 8: I just thought of it when I was reading Dan 1167 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 8: Bruger's Draft Guy because he compared Jordan Morgan to Matthew 1168 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 8: bergeron and that immediately maybe like kind of like, yeah, 1169 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 8: we wouldn't have thought that last year, but they were 1170 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 8: really into that whole idea of of going after Berger 1171 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 8: around if they didn't if Mozzie Smith wasn't there. 1172 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 4: So so they're taking bergeron this year? 1173 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 7: Is that what you're saying, maybe maybe check the Athletic 1174 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 7: mock Draft. 1175 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 3: I'm living in the chaos and I'm looking at linebacker. 1176 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: I'm looking at linebackers the first pick. 1177 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 4: As a first pick. 1178 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: I want to see it. 1179 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be it would be interesting. They would 1180 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 7: have to trade back. There was the guy. 1181 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 6: There that was worthy of twenty four. I think where worth? 1182 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 5: All right? Boys, you guys, but no. 1183 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 8: There's just not There's not like one of those linebackers 1184 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 8: that there are in some drafter you're like, oh yeah, 1185 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 8: you know, like like a ro Quand Smith type, you know, 1186 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 8: like that where you're like, well, this is obviously the 1187 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 8: best guy. That's a bunch of guys that like are 1188 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 8: kind of all in a group that people think will 1189 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 8: go early mid second round. 1190 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 14: You know. 1191 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 7: So I think if Peyton Wilson didn't have the medical concerns, 1192 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 7: he'd probably be that guy. 1193 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: But the medical concerns push him to Day two comfortably. 1194 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 3: Fair enough, our boys. That'll be it for the UH 1195 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 3: for Talking Cowboys. 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