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Speaker 1: Hey what I'm welcoming. I'm Doug Gottlie. This is all

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Speaker 1: ball man. We'll write in the heart of college basketball season,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good stories. But this weekend d Carolina

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Speaker 1: Part one, so we thought we would give you part

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Speaker 1: two of my My pod with Tyler Hansbro. We left

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Speaker 1: off of part one. Of course, you can go back

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Speaker 1: and listen. It's in your queue. I'm sure you haven't

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Speaker 1: listened to it, but if you don't, just type in

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Speaker 1: all ball Tyler hands Bro you'll see part one. We

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Speaker 1: left off junior season Final four. That's when they got

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Speaker 1: blown out okay by Kansas, got down big, came back,

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Speaker 1: about the time when we left off with Pod one.

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Speaker 1: Let's catch back up with t bow. So you get

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Speaker 1: so junior year, you're super motivated. You didn't like your

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Speaker 1: Uh let's see here played Davidson. Yeah, so Davidson. They

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Speaker 1: Really didn't know Steph wasn't you know, Davidson was a

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Speaker 1: Davidson's a tough team. They're they're one of those teams

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Speaker 1: But now Steph wasn't Steph. Then I think Steph really

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Speaker 1: Otherwise they would have played in the final four. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy, like your first your first game. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: I remember that from that game. But uh, now Steph

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Speaker 1: and um, yeah, it gave you the psycho te Nick

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Speaker 1: who gave you the Psycho te nick? Strength coach one

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Speaker 1: it where you can go make a lot of money,

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00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: but the just like jumping off I remember I was

426
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: at ESPN, like you guys are jumping off a roof,

427
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: like that was a story like that's college's fun, it's

428
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: time you're never going to get back, and experiences you

429
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: simply don't have at the professional level because the professional level,

430
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: you've experienced it, you get done, you go to your

431
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: own thing because you're a pro, you're an adult. People

432
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: have families. And the other aspect is like you know,

433
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: you talk about some of the best stories when you

434
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: look back on your college days, or you know when

435
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: you walk in and you know you have that hard practice,

436
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: coach put you on the line, just runs you to death.

437
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: I feel like coaches aren't doing that as much because

438
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: players would just leave because of the transfer portal, and

439
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: you know, looking back on my days, I was like,

440
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 1: and you remember that practically granted eight eight and uh,

441
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: you know you're like, yeah, like that wouldn't happen and

442
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: a lot of those stories that you know that that

443
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: stuff makes you tougher as a player, mentally, physically, all

444
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: that stuff, and you know, I just feel like there's

445
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: an aspect to the transfer portal that UH teaches kids

446
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: which I don't like. Is when and I talked about

447
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: this on my podcast last episode, is I don't like

448
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: the portal because kids can leave in the middle of

449
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: the year, and you know, it teaches them when things

450
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 1: aren't going right, they can just pack their bags and

451
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: go and expect a different situation with the same mindset

452
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: at another school. And that and like, it's not teaching

453
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: kids how to handle failure or you know, how to

454
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: change things and make things better even though things aren't

455
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: going your way, which I have a big issue with

456
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: the portal right now. That's what I don't like. And

457
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: and I understand it if you allow the coaches kind

458
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: of like what the owner Dame coach did UH to

459
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: their football team a few years ago and to go

460
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: to L s U if you allow him to do

461
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: that in their most important time in their season, you

462
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: gotta allow the kids. But I don't like the aspect

463
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: of either one. I think you should stay for the

464
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: whole year. Uh. And I think you know these stories

465
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. You know, kids don't have that

466
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: experience today. Okay, you get ready for your senior year.

467
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: You've beaten Duke three times in Cameron. I want to

468
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: get to the national championship and winning it and what

469
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: that's like. But the last trip into Cameron. What do

470
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: you remember the last trip into Cameron? Um, let me

471
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: see here. I can't remember, all right, So that was

472
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: February game. Uh. What I remember, um from that game

473
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: is well, I think we controlled the game somewhat. Um.

474
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: But I remember Ty had a huge spurt where he

475
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: took over the game late and I felt like that

476
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: really secured the win for us. I thought Ty had

477
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: a really good game in Cameron and played well. But

478
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: you have to get that fourth win there. Uh. And

479
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, for for our freshman class to go unbeating

480
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: at Cameron was a huge deal. And also we could

481
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: talk a lot of smack uh two Duke fans and

482
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: everything anyone ever done that. Has there ever been a

483
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: classes that's one all four times? I think there had

484
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: just one other and I'm not sure. Uh I think

485
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: Buzz Peterson told me they did it. Uh, I'm not

486
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: really sure, but I had to fact check him. But uh,

487
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: I think one other class did it. But yeah, that

488
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: that was special going undefeated there. And then obviously we

489
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: played Duke my senior year in the Smith Center, and

490
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: so obviously we didn't want to We didn't want to

491
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: leave with an all on senior night. Obviously we remember

492
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: how j J and Sheldon left, and so you know

493
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: that that game had a lot of emotions in it

494
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: because you're dealing with all your family, all your tickets

495
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: at your last home game, your last time. But also

496
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: you gotta stay focused on the game. It's tough to

497
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: do that. Uh. And so I remember that game. Um,

498
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: we pretty much dominated. I think we controlled that game

499
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: through and throughout. It was a Sunday game, and I

500
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: remember actually Michael Jordan being there, which I thought was

501
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: really cool as well anytime he's in the building. Uh. Yeah,

502
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: and that's what I remember about, you know, beating Duke

503
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: my senior years both times. What jumps at what? What

504
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: memories do you have of that n C A t

505
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: run because I remember remember the o U game right

506
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: um against you you against Blake Yep, I remember that.

507
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: I remember the Nova game that was when they were

508
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: playing four guards, you know, that was a big thing.

509
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: And I remember the National Championship game it wasn't close

510
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: against Michigan State. What do you remember about so the

511
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: tournament we played L s U. I think it was

512
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: a second round, uh, And that was our closest game,

513
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: and Ti had been dealing with a lot of you know,

514
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: foot stuff. I think it was a toe injury and

515
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: so I think he might have left the game or something.

516
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: But I think they had Marcus Thornton and if I

517
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: recall right who who really got hot? And that was

518
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: a That was the closest game we had. And actually

519
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: I think they took the lead maybe in the second

520
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it came down. It was right to

521
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: the wire. And I think it was in North Carolina.

522
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: It is either in Charlotte or Greensboro, yep. And so

523
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, I would say that being close to home

524
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: had a huge impact. And so it was packed out

525
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: with Carolina fans and I don't know if that would

526
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: have been more of a neutral site if we would

527
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: pull that off, because that was a that was a

528
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: shaky game, and we we took that one late. But

529
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: then every game after that game we pretty much cruised.

530
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: And then you know, we uh we handled Nova, which

531
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: was a big game for Wayne Ellington because Wayne is

532
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: from Philly and so that was bragging rights, but also

533
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: was on a big stage. Uh. And Nova was a

534
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: tough team. Uh but oh you they had Blake Griffin

535
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: who was the national player, that National Player of the

536
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Year that year, who um you know, obviously he went

537
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: on to have an amazing career and he was getting

538
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot of hype and putting up some big stats.

539
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Explosive player. Uh. So that was we controlled that game.

540
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: We also, I think we played Gonzaga in the Sweet

541
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: six team. Uh but we Gonzaga a few years before

542
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: had beaten us in the Garden Madison Square Garden, and

543
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: they were a tough team, and so I think that

544
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: was a big reason why we're so motivated against Gonzaga.

545
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: We knew they were a tough team, they had some

546
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: good players, but uh, we came out and pretty much

547
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: dominated that one. And then we get to the National

548
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Championship game, which obvious, So Gonzaga, Oklahoma, then Nova. Now

549
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: we have Michigan State. So Michigan State we have played

550
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: in December and smacked him. The smacked him again pretty handidly.

551
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: And that was around when the economy was really bad

552
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of hype about Hey, Michigan State,

553
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: it's it's just their destiny. They're gonna say that, calm whatever.

554
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: And so I think coach Williams has said that something

555
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: like that. To us, he was just finding something to

556
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: motivated us. I don't know if he believed that or

557
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: not or what. Well it was in Detroit, playing Michigan

558
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: State in Detroit, Corfield, you've beat him by thirty seven

559
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the year or thirty Yeah, thirty six junior

560
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Smacked the crap out. Yeah, so

561
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: so so what what was coach Williams like for the game?

562
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: We were ready to go. Uh And to me, we

563
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: were the most talented team. And I just felt like

564
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: if even if we played an average game, I think

565
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: we win that one and they play a good game,

566
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: and then that's just being honest and maybe a little cocky,

567
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: but that's the way I felt. We had a lot

568
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: of good players. Draymond is a very good pro but

569
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't Draymond at Michigan, Uh State, he was he

570
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: was heavy. He was heavy. That wasn't even that was

571
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: even a great Michigan State team, right. They beat I

572
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: think they upset Maryland was the was the big upset

573
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: that kind of propelled them on that run. Yeah, And

574
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: they had an injury early in the game to one

575
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: of their key players, and so we just steamrolled them,

576
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: and I think the game was pretty much at halftime.

577
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, they needed a miracle to

578
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: even make it a game, and so, uh, you know,

579
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: we cruised to win. But that was that was a

580
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: good way for me to go out in my class

581
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: after you think, so there was a lot of think

582
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: you think about this, Okay, Like you're a kid from

583
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: a small town Missouri. You go to North Carolina and

584
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: you beat Duke all four times, you're an All American,

585
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: your agency Player of the Year, and progressively get it right.

586
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: You're losing the final four, you come back, you win

587
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: the National Championship. How is there a better storybook ending

588
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: to a career? There's not, And to to me, I

589
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on myself, and there's a

590
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: lot of outside pressure that you know, people would, well,

591
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: if you didn't win a national championship, would you be considered,

592
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, a great college player, and so that you know,

593
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't about uh in my mind. I tried to

594
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: make it up when we're not gonna put too much

595
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: value in one game. But it is a big deal.

596
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean if if if I didn't leave a national champion,

597
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: especially after everything that our class and myself had accomplished,

598
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: I would feel like there's always something uh in the

599
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: back of my well, you know, I didn't achieve this

600
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: the ultimate goal. You know, we came up short. But

601
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: to go out that way, UH one is a big

602
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: pressure relief, but also it's it's uh, it's the best

603
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: way to end it and to have that going Uh.

604
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, when we had the game and

605
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I subbed out, I walked over and uh tapped up

606
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: coach Williams. But I remember I saw Coach Holiday, who

607
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Coach Holiday, he pretty much took care of me in

608
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: college and gave me a lot of advice. I remember

609
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: giving him a big hug and you know, seeing excitement

610
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: on his face, but also you know, being excited I

611
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: almost felt like he was, you know, so happy for

612
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 1: what we had accomplished and so proud of us. That

613
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: that feeling of winning the national championship and giving him

614
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: a hug after we won, that was that was one

615
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: of the best feelings I've had. Um alright, plucked put

616
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: put the truth to the to the John Wall story. Okay,

617
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: So John Wall said that he was he was what

618
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Disney in Carolina and you didn't want to talk to

619
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: him because you don't talk to the coach. That that was.

620
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: That was a story he told the podcast. What's that?

621
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: What's I stand by my tweet. I I don't know

622
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. And the story did not happen.

623
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: It's not it's not true to me. I don't know

624
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: why he would make this up. I can't answer that,

625
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and that's for him. But there's no animosity or anything

626
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: towards John Wall. Uh. I will say, I do not

627
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: believe this story, and it's a I'm having a hard

628
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: time figuring out when he visited Carolina. I know he's

629
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: a local kid. And some people are making you were

630
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: you Were you ever a host? Were you a host

631
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: for a cruit? Yeah? I mean, and that's something I

632
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: need to do. I need to have a recruit on.

633
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Remember Spencer Halls came on his visit to Carolina, had

634
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: a great time, and so I need to have somebody

635
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: on that was a recruit and you know, kind of

636
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: explain what it was like being a recruit at Carolina.

637
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: Uh so, you know, I definitely, you know, I talked

638
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: to recruits, show him a lot of respect. And if

639
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I didn't, uh, Coach Williams, it would not be a

640
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: good situation. I don't care what you accomplish that Carolina.

641
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: If you have a big time to recruit, uh, you know,

642
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: Coach Williams, you know you'd pay for that. The crazy

643
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: part about it, and you alluded to it. It was

644
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: like Kentucky people forever gave me ship because they got

645
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: Eric Bledsoe and John wall It didn't make any sense

646
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: that both those guys would go there unless there was

647
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: a different reason they were going there, Like what are

648
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: we talking about? Like, come on, man, we weren't and

649
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: so we we've been on my part too long. And

650
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: you go like, oh, they get John wall and and

651
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: Marcus Cousins and they get bled so and they all

652
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: just and they get two point guards that both need

653
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: the ball in their hands, and they just happened to

654
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: go there because the opportunity to play for Kentucky, like

655
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. And the best part

656
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: about it, Kentucky fans are the easiest fans to really like, say,

657
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: say one thing about Kentucky your timeline, I mean it

658
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: is guaranteed, like, oh, you're getting destroyed, and uh that's

659
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: have been the best part about it. It is just

660
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: reading the comments from the Kentucky fans. And I follow

661
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: you on Twitter. You're great on Twitter, and I always

662
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: love how you go at some of these comments. And uh,

663
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: me and my podcast partner, we've been having a great

664
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: time trying to you know, should we attack this person

665
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: and blah blah blospen. It's been pretty great. Did you

666
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: guys get anything at cad Carolina, like anything in terms

667
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: of we didn't. We didn't get shipped nothing, but coach

668
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: obviously had the reputation from from Kentucky fair unfair. Well

669
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: how about you guys, No, we didn't get anything. No,

670
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, I wentn't here because of Coach Williams.

671
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: I didn't go here for any other reason. So crazy

672
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: funny that that's one of the reasons that coach sett

673
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: in respect to Coach Williams, you always felt like they

674
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: did the right way, you know, and uh uh and

675
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: then and then everybody does that tour right afterwards, but

676
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you didn't do it right where they do

677
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: the Barns Storming Tour and they play games. Yeah, I

678
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: did that after they're done playing, and you did. Yeah,

679
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: it was a great time. I mean it's a yeah.

680
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: So once you're done playing, Uh, all these schools we

681
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: all kind of get together and go play exhibition games

682
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: around local towns and make a little bit of money.

683
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: So that, yeah, it was a good way. I mean, yeah,

684
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: all the schools around here did it. Why are you

685
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: so bad at golf when you're playing with Fraser and

686
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: west Miller? What why why did they consulate? Well, first

687
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: of all, uh yeah, first of all, you know West

688
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: is you know there's some sneaky ways that sometimes you

689
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: just see a ball that goes directly in the woods

690
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: and somehow it ends up in the fall. I'm not

691
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: calling you by a cheater, but there's been some suspect times. Now,

692
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: I did get my handicapped down until about an eight, Uh,

693
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: so I was rolling at one point, but I haven't

694
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: played as much because I've been coming back from some

695
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: knee surgeries and I've really really gotten into pickleball. The

696
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: sounds like the sounds like excuses. I think it's because

697
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: this which that you flipped, Okay, that doesn't work in golf,

698
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: Like you just it just doesn't work in golf. I

699
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's the switch. I think you

700
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: get to you gotta get to you get to you.

701
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: You don't go. If you're a team owned you would win,

702
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: but you go psycho t and that's why you That's

703
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: why you lose all these golf matches. That's that's my

704
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: personal assessment. I have learned that golf is to mentally

705
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: challenge you every time you step on the course. And

706
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: once I heard a golfer say that, I started calmbing

707
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: down and Uh, the best part about golf is when

708
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: you hit it in the woods and you just you

709
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: just barely see the flag and you're like, man, should

710
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: I pull my five wood out and just drill it,

711
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: uh two seventy five yards straight missile and just just

712
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: kind of landed on the edge of the green. Or

713
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: should I use a club that I'm actually decent with

714
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: my seven iron and just kind of hit it out

715
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: there and then put myself in position. Once I started

716
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: taking my medicine, I got a lot better. But Fraser,

717
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: there's nobody that golfs more than Frasier, and so his

718
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: game's got be good. So I'm gonna have to start

719
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: putting a lot of work in. And by the way,

720
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Coach Williams is my he's my partner, and so there's

721
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: nobody that puts more pressure on me to start working

722
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: on my game than Coach Williams. Uh. He's also a

723
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: really really good putter. And so whenever we're about to

724
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: go on these golf trips or whatever, I'll get a

725
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: call a big fella, you're working on your game from

726
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: Coach Williams because he knows I'm gonna be his part.

727
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: He seems like a good ship talker too. I bet

728
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: I bet he's I bet there's some good trash talking

729
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: when he's your partner and you guys are going against

730
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: the other side. And he tells me in the car,

731
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, they're just beating us. Now I'm

732
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna start talking and mentally get after him. And so

733
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: that's what he does all right last thing to end

734
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: part one, because I want to do your life now

735
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: and I want to do professional basketball. Uh yeah, I

736
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: got that too. One is I don't know if you

737
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: remember some draft night I was working ESPN Radio and

738
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: I had been on Sports Center and I said, like,

739
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what I saw, said, you know,

740
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: like my my evl on you was like, man, you'd

741
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: be a good enflorcer worker, like I don't you know,

742
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: top end like you know, like a top end of

743
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: as an All Star or whatever. And you sat down

744
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: and the switch had been flipped, your first round pick

745
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: in the Indiana Pacers, and you were it was like

746
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: you were ready to go. Uh what do you remember?

747
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: It was almost like whatever energy you had taken from,

748
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: whether it's my draft analysis or sitting there waiting or what,

749
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: it was like you were ready to go. Uh what

750
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: was that like for for you? Considering your competitor, you

751
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: want to win everything, and you sat there longer despite

752
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: the fact that you won national championship and you had

753
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: all those accodectis. Yeah, Well, for me, we knew that

754
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: going into the draft I wasn't gonna be a top

755
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: ten pick, and a lot of that for me being

756
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: at the draft was because of uh my agent told

757
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: me they wanted me there because of my college career

758
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: to begin with, and we felt like I would be

759
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: in early earlier first round. I wasn't gonna be sitting there,

760
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: uh in the second for sure. We knew that, and

761
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: we felt like we had a silly net. I would

762
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: say around fifteen. Actually, I think it was maybe been somewhere.

763
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: We had a commitment in the mid uh mid to

764
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: late teens, and so we started working our way up

765
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: and actually I had um a second draft workout for

766
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: the Nets, and they had taken Terence Williams, and I

767
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: had a really really good workout for them my first workout,

768
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: and then they brought me in a couple of days

769
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: before the draft, and I had a better workout, and

770
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: so I was like they might take me, and so

771
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: I felt pretty optimistic about that. But when it got

772
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: down to it, I remember sitting there and I didn't

773
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: really even pay attention to many analysts, or I wasn't

774
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: really paying attention to what everyone was saying. I was

775
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: just trying to do my workouts and then trying to

776
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: go from there and trying to cut out the outside noise.

777
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: At the time, so I didn't know what anybody else

778
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: was saying. Uh, but I remember when Indiana came up,

779
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: I had a pretty good workout. I left there pretty

780
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good. And when they're about to pick, you know,

781
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: we kind of felt like there was a chance and

782
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I looked over at coach and Coach Wing was like,

783
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: I think this is where you're gonna go. And my

784
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: agent at the time said, I don't think so. I

785
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: don't think so. And so when Indiana called my name,

786
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: obviously I was super excited, and uh, yeah I was.

787
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: I was very excited about being Indiana. Obviously Larry Bourbon

788
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: and um so getting there, you know, I was pretty motivated.

789
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: But uh, when I got to Indiana, obviously I had

790
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries my first year, and uh really

791
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: struggled with some of those injuries. But uh, getting drafted

792
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: was a huge deal. Going late lottery. Uh, you had

793
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: to work out this is the one I heard. You

794
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: had to workout in Atlanta, Okay with I think Sean

795
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Taggert from Memphis. Any recollections workout? Uh, I remember working

796
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: out for Atlanta. Huh, I don't remember. Here's the story

797
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: that I was told. Here's the story that I was

798
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: told that uh Sean Tigger's kid played at Memphis super talented, right,

799
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: and um, they Atlanta lot loved you because specifically like

800
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: this workout where um, you know you used to tug

801
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: on your shorts all the time, right, that was like

802
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: yours that you tell your So you're playing one on one.

803
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: He gets the ball, shot, fakes, lifts you up, goes by,

804
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: and you go to block a shot and you don't

805
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: block a shot. You clapper that fucker right, just hammering

806
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: and you go back like to the Frizon line, like

807
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: tugging on your shorts like ready for you know it's

808
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: a foul next play whatever. He gets up like what

809
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: the bad like you know right, like he wants to go.

810
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: And their desire to take you was because they had

811
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: some young, immature, big dudes and they're like, we want

812
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: Tyler Hansbroll to play like that every day in practice too,

813
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: because to see if if you can get pay you

814
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: can if you can practice against Tyler Hansborough every day,

815
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: then you can pull and then you'll you'll be fine

816
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: in the NBA. That that's the that's the my favorite

817
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: three draft story of Tyler han uh I believe that.

818
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, Lena was one of those teams

819
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: that I felt pretty comfortable. Obviously jeff te worked out

820
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: pretty good for him, but yeah they were later on

821
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: and uh we yeah, we left that one pretty solid.

822
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever seen the movie Over

823
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: the Top. It's an old uh Sylvester's all right, here's

824
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: so here's the project I have for you. Okay, you

825
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: get like you get somebody or whatever, you get a

826
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: free night, throw it up. And here's why. Okay, the

827
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: switch that you flipped when you play basket a ball

828
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: is you'll see it with sly Stone. So he's a

829
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: truck driver that's in like arm wrestling tournaments. Okay, and

830
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: he's one guy when his hats on forward and then

831
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: when he flips the hat on backwards, like he's like

832
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: a different dude. That's the that's the switch that you

833
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: had when you play basketball. It's like it's like a

834
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: glaze look over your face. There's there's nothing going to

835
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: stop you from competing and trying to win. So watch

836
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: that one and tell me if you think that's that's

837
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: a fair fair comment. All right, I'll watch that and

838
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: get back to you. Okay, So your your assignment is that,

839
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: and then we need ben stories. We need NBA stories, okay,

840
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: and we need you. We need to we need to

841
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: figure out your golf game because the text I'm getting

842
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: from West, he's texting me scores and how much money

843
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: he's taken off for you, and it's just it's just

844
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: not a good look, man, West. West was talking a

845
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: lot of ship. Uh when I took that hundle off

846
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: of him that one time. What's the core? He plays

847
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: Ego Point, You know, I don't know if you played

848
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Ego Point. We've played everywhere, but we play Eagle Point.

849
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: If you've been to Durham Old Chatham, that's where I play.

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Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. How can someone get your podcast?

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Speaker 1: It's on every platform. It's sleep palk worldwide. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking all this time. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Um let's let's let's schedule part do and and then

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Speaker 1: listen to your pot Thanks for joining me. Thanks, I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you man. All right. That's it for the

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Speaker 1: amateur part of Tyler Hansborough's career. I do I want

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Speaker 1: to know what it was like in the n b A.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what it was like to be

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Speaker 1: had to be a role player in the NBA. What's

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Speaker 1: it like to walk away from the NBA. What's it

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Speaker 1: like to be Tyler Hansbro now being around college basketball games.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to watch his coach, Roy Williams will

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Speaker 1: be so close with retired Joe Holiday retired. We talked

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Speaker 1: about in part one. All that's up coming in part three.

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Speaker 1: They so much t Bone for joining us. I'm Doug Gottlieb.

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