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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. Let's get started

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Speaker 2: with the story of the week. So this first one's

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Speaker 2: really messed up. So this guy was going to a

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Speaker 2: Fourth of July party at a bar. I guess he

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Speaker 2: had bought a ticket. He arrives at the bar and

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Speaker 2: So if they're noticing that at the door, like, how

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Speaker 2: messed up is this guy? Right? Yeah, totally, So they

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Speaker 2: offered to refund him the ticket, which I was surprised

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Speaker 2: by because no matter what bar I worked at, if

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Speaker 2: somebody showed up like that, they would have just been

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Speaker 2: like your beat. But they really wanted to get this

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Speaker 2: killing three. Now my question is, and obviously this is

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Speaker 2: which makes this story it kind of pisses you off

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Speaker 2: even more. But my first question is just because you

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Speaker 2: don't want to serve or you don't want to let in,

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Speaker 2: why is it okay to just say I'm refusing you

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Speaker 2: entry and be on your way, knowing that there's a

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Speaker 2: high probability that that person came in a car. Well,

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Speaker 2: you don't know they came in a car because this

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Speaker 2: happened in New York City, So you can't assume somebody drove.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I worked at a bar that was in

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Speaker 2: of people also did walk there, and you had no

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Speaker 2: way of knowing if somebody drove there unless you physically

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Speaker 2: saw them get in and out of a car. And

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Speaker 2: because of everything going on in cities right now, even

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Speaker 2: if you called the cops and you were like, I

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Speaker 2: think about that. I know, it's just it's just fucked

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Speaker 2: up because I'm like, if this, if somebody would have

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Speaker 2: even able to get in his car. Well, because I

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Speaker 2: it's just as plain and simple as that they have

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Speaker 2: bigger problems. So if this happened in a really small

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Speaker 2: But like, if he's just showing up drunk, if he's

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Speaker 2: this guy killed three people. So it's essentially the same

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Speaker 2: as someone shooting three people or whatever, like this is

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Speaker 2: this is a serious crime. He killed three people in

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Speaker 2: is a big problem. Yeah, And it happened in New

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Speaker 2: York a couple times this week, right with the guy

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Speaker 2: one of them was, you know, we were like on

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Speaker 2: almost plowed into our outdoor tables, but pulled over right

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Speaker 2: So in that twenty minutes, unless somebody's physically restraining this guy,

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Speaker 2: him it's a slim, all right. So let's get to

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Speaker 2: the bottom line. And there's no obligation for the bar

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Speaker 2: It seems like his ex girlfriend or wife left him

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Speaker 2: And kudos for her for leaving him and getting her

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Speaker 2: you're kind of lying about it. Well, it almost seems

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Speaker 2: like this book was self published. And there was a

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Speaker 2: stints in jail were quote humbling, demeaning, and enlightening, and

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Speaker 2: And this is just another story where we hear some

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Speaker 2: just amazing to me how this happens. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it definitely. This guy obviously had a history of it.

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Speaker 2: The most disturbing part for me was like him writing

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So Danny Elfman is this composer, he's he has to

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Speaker 2: and TV industry, right, I mean he did the Simpsons.

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Speaker 2: I can't talk the Simpsons theme song. He worked on

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Speaker 2: most I think almost every single Timbert and movie. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you'll recognize the theme song for Beetlejuice, Batman, the

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Speaker 2: all of the Corpse Bride, all those types of movies,

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Speaker 2: every single movie pee wee too, right, Yeah, he's this

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Speaker 2: like all of them. He's also the singing voice of

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Speaker 2: Jack Skellington from Nightmare Before Christmas. Well, he's he's gross. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I mean he he has this kind of like

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Speaker 2: really not helping his case. So it appears he's being

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Speaker 2: right way to pronounce her name. It was like all

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Speaker 2: horrible in itself, but it just keeps getting worse. So

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Speaker 2: And then last summer he did an article with Rolling

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Speaker 2: she assuing him once again for defamation, saying he was

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Speaker 2: blatant lying in this article, spreading these horrible lies, saying

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Speaker 2: said that he never quote, never placed his bodily fluids

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Speaker 2: what excuse me? Yes, so he put his semen in

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Speaker 2: But then didn't he try to say that it was

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Speaker 2: set of phil lotion. Yeah, he came out later saying

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Speaker 2: You have to think about the power dynamic here, right.

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Speaker 2: She is like this young composer trying to work with

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Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, well they consented. Well maybe they

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Speaker 2: or a martini glass or whatever. Like you, you have

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad she's suing him because he's such a

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Speaker 2: is where it's really hard. Defamation lawsuits are really difficult

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Speaker 2: because you have to really prove that what this person

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Speaker 2: a reputation. So her attorneys have a lot right to

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Speaker 2: is just discussing that this accusations even out there. And

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Speaker 2: then in October last year, another person that he worked

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Speaker 2: person that took all these videos and pictures of before

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00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: and after the incident took a video of it, and

431
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: it was making like an like I don't know, it

432
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: was just such like an ear piercing, screeching noise. I

433
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: would never let my kid on that ride with it

434
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: making that noise. But also the ride operator wasn't like, hey, well,

435
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: the ride operator is always a high thirteen year old,

436
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like these people that run the

437
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 2: carnival rides, like most of the time they're just like

438
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: teenagers that are high at work or drunk, and they

439
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: don't or they just don't care. Like they're totally unqualified

440
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: people running these rides. So you know, this ride's making

441
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: the screeching noise, nobody thinks anything about it. They put

442
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: more people on it and then shocker, the whole thing

443
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: tips over with people on it and it hurts a

444
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: bunch of people. At least nobody got killed. We could

445
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: say that no nobody got killed, but six people had

446
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: injuries from it. I go back and forth with amusement

447
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: rides because when I was especially these like semi permanent ones.

448
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: I when I was a kid, I loved when the

449
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: carnival came to town. You know, like my like my

450
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: parents took us on vacation every year, but when the

451
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: carnival came to the church, like it was something that

452
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: we all looked forward to going to. So I don't

453
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: want to take that away from my kids. We're even

454
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: going to the mountains in a couple of weeks and

455
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: there's a carnival there, and of course I'm like, this

456
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: is the type of place that this happens at, But

457
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: my kids are going to want to go on the ride,

458
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: so I go back and forth. But then I'm like, oh,

459
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: there's also thirty thousand people that get injured on rides

460
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: every year, and and these are more likely I feel. Yeah,

461
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: I just think like these are so much more different

462
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Speaker 2: than amusement park rides. Think about it, like when you

463
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Speaker 2: have a ride built at Disney or Dollywood or Dorney

464
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: Park or something, right, Like, it's built by professional engineers,

465
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: it's built on site, the ride is not moving, they're

466
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: being checked regularly every day, once a month, whatever they're saying.

467
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: They set up these carnivals and they're not inspected by

468
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: any agency. So like ELL and I inspected their rides

469
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: after the incident happened, Like why aren't they being inspected

470
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: before people are allowed on them? And then you know

471
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: they're being driven around in tractor trailers that's probably knocking

472
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: stuff loose in them. Do you think the teenagers managing

473
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: them give a shit about what's going on like no.

474
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: Gabe is always like telling me that I need to

475
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: calm down when the kids go on rides, because whenever

476
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Speaker 2: they go on, I like follow them right up to

477
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: the ride and I make sure that they like double

478
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: check their seatbelt that it's clicked in because I'm just

479
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: I just am always envisioning something terrible happening with them,

480
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: and it gives you know, they went on the swings

481
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: on the boardwalk a couple of weeks ago, and the

482
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: whole time i just had a not in my stomach

483
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, I just hate this

484
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: so bad. I mean literally, like these rides in this

485
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: picture of this incident look like they were built in

486
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: the eighties and have not been updated since. And they've

487
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: been traveling to different carnival to different carnival every single

488
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: week for summers for forty years. Right, think about this, Yeah,

489
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: I mean, if you it's just this, it's the same

490
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: as everything else. Though. It's like, if you think about

491
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: how many people go on rides and how many times

492
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: they go on rides a year, the amount of injuries

493
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Speaker 2: is it is small? You just think. I think a

494
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: big fear for for any parent is that their kids

495
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: get hurt doing something that's supposed to be fun, like

496
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Speaker 2: swimming or something they didn't like getting hurt in a

497
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: car accident. It's like, sometimes you have to be in

498
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Speaker 2: the car to go somewhere. You have to be in

499
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: the car, but like, you don't have to be on

500
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Speaker 2: these rides, and it's a prevent it's a completely preventable death.

501
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: But also you want to live and you want your

502
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: kids to have fun. You know, you you enjoyed it.

503
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever enjoyed rides, but I

504
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: did to give on most most children didn't do. So

505
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: I fear being a mother because I'm just like like

506
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: I thank God, thank God you have me to to

507
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: square you away. And on top of that, like and

508
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm pretty okay. I put the anxiety

509
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: on myself, not them, But I am constantly anxious. But no,

510
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: like I think I leave it inside. I think if

511
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Speaker 2: I was at a carnival, I'd have pretty much no

512
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: problem letting my kid go on like the normal little

513
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: kid ride. Like I wouldn't let them go on the

514
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: gravitron or the zipper or anything like that, but i'd

515
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: have Yeah, but like you're that's fine, when your kids too,

516
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: you could let them on the little fire truck that goes,

517
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: you know, zero point five miles an hour around the circle.

518
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: But the kids, now, the girls are nine and eleven

519
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: years old, like, they don't want to go on that shit.

520
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: They want to go on like the extreme stuff. You know, totally.

521
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: But like if you were standing in front of the

522
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: ride and it was screeching like that, I think as

523
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: a parent you'd be like, maybe let's skip this. Yeah, exactly, Well,

524
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: think about there had to be some people there that

525
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: were like eh, and then imagine it falling and being like, wow,

526
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: I was right, actually I I yeah, I don't know.

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547
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: so we have an update about that guy that if

548
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: you remember he took He was driving into Tesla with

549
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: his whole family and he drove them off of a cliff,

550
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: trying to kill all of them. But because Tesla's have

551
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: this like really advanced technology, they were able to figure

552
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: out that he intentionally did it and nothing would have

553
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: caused him to swerve or no accident could have occurred

554
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: that made them go off the cliff, but they all survived. So,

555
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: now the time has gone by, a judge has decided

556
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: that this guy, instead of being prosecuted for the crimes,

557
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: is going to serve two years in a mental health

558
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: facility for this. So what do you think about that?

559
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: I think it's fucking ridiculous, honestly, Like they're saying he

560
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: has major depression, right, Yeah, if you could, if you

561
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: could interview any person that's done a murder suicide of

562
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: their family, I bet all of them have some kind

563
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: of depressed depression or major depressive disorder, right. I think

564
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: anybody could argue on if you're going to take the

565
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: steps to try to kill anybody at all, something's clearly

566
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: not going smooth in your brain. So, like, I don't

567
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: understand why this guy's getting passed. This guy was a doctor.

568
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm starting to feel that something's going on behind the scenes,

569
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: like he knew the judge or somebody like you know,

570
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: shook a hand of somebody else behind the scenes, and

571
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: they're letting him off. Lately, the prosecution is pissed about this.

572
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Obviously it this he tried to kill multiple people, and

573
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: they have proof. I think, I honestly think that a

574
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: big thing in this case was didn't didn't the wife

575
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: say that she didn't want him to go to jail

576
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: or something? Oh I don't remember that. Yeah, I really

577
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: think that that happened. I remember we reported that she

578
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: she wanted him to get treatment and stuff, So that

579
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: could have been the major factor and them deciding to

580
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: do something like that because she didn't even she really

581
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: felt that he was mentally ill, and which is is understandable,

582
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like people people are mentally

583
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: ill and do horrible shit, but then like then let's

584
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 2: just like not prosecute anyone ever. Again, That's how I

585
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: look at it, all right, So I just don't agree

586
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: with this decision, like a, you're gonna like let this

587
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: guy try to kill your children, and then I don't

588
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: understand what two years in a mental health facility is

589
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: gonna do. I don't think he's going to be in

590
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: a mental health facility. I think that he's going to

591
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: be staying with his parents and having this treatment health.

592
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: This is even more, he's not allowed to he's not

593
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: allowed to see his family in those two years, but

594
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: he has to stay with his parents and he's going

595
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: to get weekly treatment to try to heal. Weakly treat

596
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: me like, I, yeah, that's what I consider it said.

597
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: It said weekly mental health and therapy. So I should'

598
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: myself to be a semi normal person and I get

599
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: therapy once a month. So like that's and I haven't

600
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: even tried to harm anybody. There's lots of there's lots

601
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: of people that get treatment once a week, and I

602
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: just think I think it's setting a precedent for like, okay,

603
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: because really, any person that kills a person, somebody is

604
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: going to have an excuse as to why they did it, right. So,

605
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: and depression, I think is especially with murder suicide because

606
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: I feel like when you go in knowing that you're

607
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: going to kill yourself and then you're gonna take people

608
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: down with you, I feel like it's always a case

609
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: like that that you have that underlying thing that you

610
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: want to kill yourself anyway, whereas you're not just going

611
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: on a shooting spree and just like it like evil

612
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: intentionally just trying to kill people. The murder suicide thing

613
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: within families and stuff is complex and it always has

614
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: to do with that kind of stuff. Right now, So

615
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: this the guy's out of work, he thinks his wife's

616
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: cheating on him, he's depressed, he wants to kill her

617
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: and the kids. Like why is the same okay? For

618
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: this guy gets to go to therapy once a week

619
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: for two years, right and then what he just goes

620
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: on to live a normal life. His kids have to

621
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: live with the fact that their father tried to kill

622
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: them for the rest of their lives. I don't know.

623
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how people I just don't agree this.

624
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: You could argue it's not even an argument. Everybody that

625
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: kills somebody clearly has something going on in their brain, right,

626
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Like a normal, sane person would not commit an act

627
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: like that. So if we're gonna have this argument, like

628
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: why can't he be in jail for trying to take

629
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: the lives of multiple people and receive treatment, I wouldn't.

630
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't agree with that, Like, because there's clearly a

631
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: difference between people that have diagnosed mental health disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar, whatever,

632
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: and then people that are just truly evil and they

633
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: don't really have that underlying thing. So the major depression

634
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: falls into that category, right. But but major depression can

635
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: be seen in like a big percentage of people, right, So,

636
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: but what it's the same as this they're saying. It's

637
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: like on the same level as if a schizophrenic person

638
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: it bludgeons someone to death because they were hearing voices

639
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: that they should do it, Like that's the lioner stand that,

640
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: But like, are they then gonna let a schizophrenic person

641
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: go back into society without treatment in two years, like

642
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: they're going to do something again. Well yeah, yeah, but

643
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: they do. That's like you could. That's why they do

644
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 2: the insanity defense, right. It's kind of like on that

645
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: line there, they're choosing that like this guy wasn't making

646
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: a decision because he wasn't in the clear state, in

647
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: a normal state of mind, But in this case, like

648
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: he was that in this argument, should that person then

649
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: have a right to walk amongst society if they're trying

650
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: to commit crimes against other people because they're insane. Well, yeah,

651
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: they're doing a diversion program, so they think they're going

652
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: to be able to like save him and make it

653
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: they don't save him. Well, they said that after that,

654
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: they're going to reevaluate after the two years to see

655
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: if I just cannot agree with this decision. Like I

656
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: don't know, I just I it. If they do it

657
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: and it proves to work, I'll admit I was wrong.

658
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: But I just cannot see how this is nearly long

659
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: enough time to try to take the lives of multiple people.

660
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: I actually feel really bad for his wife, because you're

661
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: in a tough situation where you love someone and clearly

662
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: they're mentally ill, but then they also tried to hurt

663
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: you and your children. And the way I look at it,

664
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: like myself is just like I don't care how much

665
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: I love you, like you tried to hurt my kids,

666
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: fuck you kind of thing. But she's in a spot

667
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: because she doesn't like what decision does she make, She's

668
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: not really gonna make the right decision. I personally wouldn't want,

669
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't want my kids to grow up without

670
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: a dad, But I also don't think that I would

671
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: want my kids to grow up with a dad that

672
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: tried to kill me and them. I mean, like we

673
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: could all have this story now because these people are like,

674
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: don't really have any problems physically, But think about if

675
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: one of the children were like paralyzed and in a

676
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: wheelchair for the rest of their life, or or worse

677
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: dead one of them was dead one of them survived,

678
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: would that change things for the mom? I don't know,

679
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: Like I feel like she's kind of like, oh, we're

680
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: not that hurt. I don't know. I don't even know,

681
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: Like I really just can't imagine, like if Gabe did

682
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: something like that to us, I can't imagine going to

683
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: court and being on his side. I just like I can't.

684
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Well I don't can't either. And even even if you're

685
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: on the side of you don't want them in jail,

686
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: I would you would have to say that the person

687
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: needs to go into a treatment facility, not like like

688
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of a sweetheart deal, like, oh,

689
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: you get to live with your parents and see a

690
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: therapist once a week. Yeah, well, I take care of

691
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: the kids that now you're not around anymore, and they're

692
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: like healing from this act, and this is like not

693
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: something I think. I don't think when you're my age,

694
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: Like how old were these kids? Teenager kids? No, they

695
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: were like, oh, I don't think when you're like thirty,

696
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, my dad tried to drive us off

697
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: a cliff one time. Like I don't think you're ever

698
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: gonna get over something like that. That's trauma You're just

699
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: gonna deal with forever. That's what I'm saying though, Like

700
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter though, like the the moms in the

701
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: mom and the kids are in this situation, no matter

702
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: what happens, like there is no getting over it. We

703
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: report stories of this every week of like terrible shit

704
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: happening and just being like, God, imagine growing up and

705
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: know that your dad did that to your mom or whatever,

706
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: like it just is what it is. I don't maybe

707
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: they're trying to start some new thing to see if

708
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: they can heal people, because people sitting in jail for

709
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: their whole life either isn't helpful. I mean, he had

710
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: to know. He's an educated person. He had to know

711
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: that if this wasn't going to get the job done

712
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: and they survived, that he would be facing consequences like that.

713
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: So jail isn't necessarily going to deter people from doing

714
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: something like this. So it's not even to terri him

715
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: from doing it. I just love doing something again. Well,

716
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: well yeah, because I think he was originally saying he

717
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: was depressed because of the COVID pandemic and this and

718
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: that there was like all these excuses he had, which

719
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: guess what, like join the club, So was everybody else.

720
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: It freaking sucked it to go through for all of us,

721
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: So get over it. That's number one. But you have

722
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: to think, like, Okay, he's like I feel like he's

723
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: like my age, he's around forty whatever, Like there's going

724
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: to be something else that happens in our lifetime. That's

725
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: gonna make you depressed again. So you have to be

726
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: like able to overcome that. And maybe the wife feels

727
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: a certain way because she knew he was bad and

728
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: kind of ignored it. Like there's a lot of variables

729
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: that we don't know about, you know, Yeah, I don't know.

730
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm interested. I'll be keeping my eye on this.

731
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm just interested in two years, like what they're gonna

732
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: come to terms, Like, I don't know. It kind of

733
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: reminds me of that case that we reported on before

734
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: about that Remember that woman stabbed that guy all those

735
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: times and she was like high on marijuana and she

736
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: got off of it because they were saying she had

737
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: like cannabis induced psychosis, and it was just like it

738
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: wasn't really her fault that she did that. I just

739
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: think from the victim's standpoint, like let's say, for example,

740
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: this wife really wanted to press charges against him. How

741
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: would you feel if if he got out of this

742
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: knowing that he tried to kill you, he tried to

743
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: kill your kids, and all he's going to do is

744
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: like get treatment for two years. It's not it's not

745
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 2: good for the victims. No, matter how the victims feel.

746
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying like, I don't know, like and I don't like.

747
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, I I understand depression is a

748
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: really severe condition for a lot of people. But if

749
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: he was schizophrenic, would it be the same thing and

750
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: they would just let him back in society to maybe

751
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: repeat the same offense. I just I don't know, I

752
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: don't know how this would be handled. Yeah, they would,

753
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: they would treat, they would give them treatment, and hopefully,

754
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: like he would take medications and get under control. That's

755
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: I guess that's what they're they're thinking of. I don't know. Well, whatever,

756
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: all right? So in April, a fifty three year old

757
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: man was found dead in his apartment. He had stab wounds,

758
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: he had blunt injuries to his head, and the weirdest

759
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: part of this was his right thumb had been cut off.

760
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: What do you use your right thumb for to get

761
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: into your iPhone? So it turns out a couple months later,

762
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: wait you do, well, I don't I can't even think

763
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: of Wait I guess you did. Yeah, No, isn't it

764
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: like I don't know, because does it use your If

765
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: you have a newer iPhone, you use your face to

766
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: get in. But like, we just got my mother in

767
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: law a more basic iPhone, and you still use your

768
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: thumb to get in. That was the older model of

769
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: the phone, and some of the more basic models of

770
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: the iPhone still have the thumb entry where you use

771
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: your like fingerprins to get in. Right, So this guy's

772
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: thumb is missing, and then it turns out a couple

773
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: months later, these two girls get arrested and they had

774
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: cut his thumb off and were using it. Well, they

775
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: had stolen his phone as well, and they were using

776
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: the thumb to get into his phone to steal his

777
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: money out of his bank accounts. That's that is just

778
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: so gnarly, like it really is. And so the body

779
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: goes to the medical examiner's office, and this guy's missing

780
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: his thumb and it's a clean cut. Why is he

781
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: missing his thumb? It looks like it just got cut off,

782
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: you know, And so that what they would do is

783
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: look at the end or the margin of it under

784
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: the microscope to see if it got cut off before

785
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 2: he died, if it got cut off after he died,

786
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: Like what was going on? And when they look because

787
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: there's all different reasons, I guess you could get an

788
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: amputation on your thumb, but you could tell the difference

789
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: between like, Okay, this person had surgery because it would

790
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: have been sewn up and stuff, not just like a

791
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: roll cut, you know. And when they looked at it

792
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: under the microscope, they saw some hemorrhage and they were like, Okay,

793
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: it either got cut off right as he was dying

794
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: or right after he died. There wasn't a ton of bleeding,

795
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: like oh, he was still actively alive, but it was

796
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: like maybe because he was, he had blunt traumas, so

797
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: maybe it was like when he was taking his last

798
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: breast or shortly after he died, so it was a

799
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: fresh cut. And just think about it though, like once

800
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: that that thumb is removed from the blood supply, it

801
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: starts decomposing. So it's it's essentially like you're cutting around

802
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: like a chicken drumstick with you, right, I mean, when

803
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 2: it's not refrigerated and stuff. Over a couple of days,

804
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: Just think about like that thing started smelling, it started decomposing,

805
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have the issue of skin slippage,

806
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: which is when epidermis separates from the dermis as part

807
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: of the decomposition process, which would take the fingerprints off

808
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: of it, if that actually happens, if they weren't, So

809
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if they like put it in alcohol

810
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: and preserved it, like the people that are doing this,

811
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: like are thinking about skin slippage, and I don't well, no,

812
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they were thinking of it. But then

813
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: they had it for a day or two when we're like,

814
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: oh shit, this thing's starting to really smell and get

815
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: weird looking. And I don't know what they did with it,

816
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: like how long were they using it? They had to

817
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: do something to preserve it if if they were using it,

818
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: and if you was found in the beginning of April,

819
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: did and the first girl didn't get arrested till June,

820
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: so at least two months, and then the second perpetrator

821
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: didn't get arrested till like ten days ago. So I

822
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, but that doesn't really say how long

823
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: they were using but but and yeah, I mean I

824
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I think it probably starts. People

825
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: people are smart though they think like okay, this is

826
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: like a piece of chicken, Like what would you do

827
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: with it? They probably like used it and put it

828
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: back in the refrigerator or something. As far as we know,

829
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: they only could have used it one time to transfer

830
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: money to them, right, like you, But why cut it off?

831
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: Why not just unlock it? At the scene they did,

832
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: they find the thought. I don't think they found the thumb,

833
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: but they found so this guy had a history with

834
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: one of the women, and he had reported last year

835
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: that she stole sixteen hundred dollars from him, which why

836
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: are you still seeing her? So he's like hanging out

837
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: with this chick. They see on surveillance video that she

838
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: goes back to the apartment with him, and then they

839
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: see on surveillance at the apartment building that these two

840
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: women and then two other masked men are going in

841
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: and out of the apartment around the time he died

842
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: and afterwards, and then they're going through the apartment and

843
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: there's all this stuff missing, including his phone. And then

844
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: that's when they figured out that they were transferring money

845
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: to themselves to use to buy uber or I guess

846
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: they were linking his accounts to their Uber's account and

847
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: to buy weed and booze and all this other stuff.

848
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: I do you think you're not gonna I don't know.

849
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: I don't understand like like clearly it's he died on

850
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: this day, So anything that's happened on his account is

851
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: fraudulent because he's dead. Like what, why? Why do you

852
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: think you're getting away with this? People are just like

853
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: so dumb, they really are. I can't imagine they were

854
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: using it that long because they're saying the corner is

855
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: saying they found him like within a couple of days

856
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: of him dying. So don't you think any transactions afterwards

857
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: they would know immediately were flagged. But I don't know,

858
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what police are looking into or

859
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: they looking at bank accounts. I just don't know. So

860
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: it's so there's like a thumb and a ziploc bag

861
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: in someone's purse or in the refrigerator next to the milk,

862
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: And don't you think if you were smart, you would

863
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: just you know, commit the crime and then immediately take

864
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: the person's thumb, open their phone and just do it

865
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: right then and there and like leave it all and

866
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: then peace out instead of continuously using it. It just

867
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: it's it's like work smarter, not harder. It just doesn't

868
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: get you sense, Okay, So this one is deeply disturbing

869
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: for me because I used to live literally like two

870
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: minutes from this. So there's a dollar Tree in South Philly.

871
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: It was less than five minutes away, two minutes about drive.

872
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: I would walk there all the time, about a ten

873
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: minute walk from where I used to live for a while.

874
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: And I went there a couple times because we used

875
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: to have people over for the Eagles game all the time.

876
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: And I would get like plates there and I went

877
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: to the post office next door. So I'm very familiar

878
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: with the shopping center in particular. So like me, this

879
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: lady's just walking around the dollar store shopping and all

880
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this man comes up to her and

881
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: ejaculates on her leg. How like he just he? How

882
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: do you pull it out and make it come out

883
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: that fast? Just I don't know. I just want to

884
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: know how it went down, Like she was just standing

885
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: there and he came up and did that or was

886
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: he doing it for you? Don't only imagine that he

887
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: was probably fondling himself like through his pants until he

888
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: was at the point where he was about to ejaculate,

889
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: and then went up to her and did it on

890
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: her leg. And I'd have to cut my leg off

891
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: if this happened to me. Yeah, and so there was

892
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: a video going around that went viral and it was

893
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: her chasing the guy out of the store and just

894
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: freaking out, which any person would be freaking out, and

895
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: saying like he nutted on my leg and was showing

896
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: this stuff like on her leg and yeah, there's no

897
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: amount of like I'd have to get a trash can

898
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: and fill it with bleach and stick my leg in it,

899
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: and there's no amount of cleaning that off. It's just

900
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: so this video that goes viral. She started taking a

901
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: video when she was mid freak out after realizing what

902
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: happened to her, and it's him running out of the

903
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: store in her chasing him, and then she starts sobbing

904
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: obviously because that's absolutely horrible to happen to somebody. So

905
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: you know it. This actually happened a couple of weeks ago,

906
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: but I guess the video just went viral this week

907
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: and then Meek Mill, the rapper, reposted it, which is

908
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: why it went like super viral. And then the police

909
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: posted surveillance footage of him, and he turned himself in yesterday.

910
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Really the best part of this story is that in June,

911
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: he was wearing a T shirt in this video, he

912
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: was wearing a T shirt with a candy cane on

913
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: it that said quote, it's not going to lick itself.

914
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: These shirts are getting out of control. They're just so like,

915
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: what is the point of that. I don't know, it's

916
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: just it's just kind of it's just not even funny,

917
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: like it's it's just not funny. I don't I really

918
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: just don't get the joke in it. This is a

919
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: horrific crime. I mean, I understand it's a sexual totally.

920
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: I understand why she would take a video of him

921
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: to try to have it for evidence, but I certainly

922
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: would not be posting a video of somebody else's semen

923
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: on my leg. No, I think it's great that she

924
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: did that. Honestly, I don't know because that's no it's

925
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: it's good because she made it. I'm happy because in

926
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: that heat of that moment, I don't know if I

927
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: would have even thought about pulling out my phone like that.

928
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: And I think that it just adds to how disgusting

929
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: the crime is, and she wanted to show everyone like

930
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: this really happened, and that's what made it start going viral,

931
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: because it just made it even more gross, you know,

932
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: what I mean, and that really pisses people off, either

933
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: if you're a woman or you have female children or

934
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 2: anything like even it could happen to a guy too,

935
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: just like it's it's just it's it's not it's hard

936
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: to describe how gross it is, and then seeing it

937
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: I think helps even more. Honestly, what we used to know,

938
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: lady that was in the subway once and a guy

939
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: like was like a guy was sitting on the steps

940
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: and she was walking up the steps and he just

941
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: like pulled it out and started jerking off and like

942
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: ejaculated all over the place, like right in front of her.

943
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: And hearing that story to me is so disturbing. But

944
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: if I saw like a photo of it, I'd be like,

945
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's it just makes it even more real.

946
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: And imagine being in a situation like that, like you're

947
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: just at the dollar store and then something nasty like

948
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: that happens to you. Yeah, I mean, I think I

949
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: think it was good that she showed it, honestly. Yeah,

950
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: I mean when I I first saw this story, and

951
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: then when I I just saw South Philadelphia dollar tree

952
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: or whatever right at first, and then when I looked

953
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: and saw what location it was I was like this,

954
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: you have to be joking, Like I've been to that

955
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: store so many times that exact location. I just can't

956
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: even imagine. All right, let's get into medical news. A

957
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: new study has detected concentration of sixteen medals and different

958
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: kinds of TA. How did metals even end up in tampons.

959
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: It's because of the fibers and stuff they use, So

960
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: they're they're detecting these in tampons right now. This study

961
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: has shown and they haven't said yet that these metals

962
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: are affecting women's health. They're trying to investigate that now.

963
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: And the reason is is because all of these metals

964
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: could also be in in like panties and jeans and

965
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: stuff that are also very close to your vagina. So

966
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: they want to make sure that when they do tests

967
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: to see if any of these metals are in people's blood,

968
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: that it's coming from the tampons and not a combination

969
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: of the tampons and the clothes that people are wearing.

970
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: But the vagina really absorbs things like that, like more

971
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: than if you put something on your hand, for example,

972
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: like the vagina will absorb more so as opposed to

973
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: like holding a tampon. And one of the biggest concerns too,

974
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: is that women wear these things for multiple years of

975
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: their life, and they think that there's like almost fifty

976
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: to eighty five percent of women at some point where tampons,

977
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: you know, every month. It's a lot of product. So

978
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: there was news coming out, remember that there were pfas

979
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: in those kinds of period patternderwear and stuff, which are

980
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: like the forever chemicals. And it's good that they're doing

981
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: studies like that to see because being exposed to something

982
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: like this for multiple years at a time can could

983
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: turn into cancer one day or cause long term health problems.

984
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: And one of the most important things that came from

985
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: this study because you know people always say, well, like

986
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: I use organic cotton ones, they're fine, and it's like, no,

987
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: actually they're not. They said that women that were using

988
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: just like regular tampons, they had a more increase of

989
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: lead in those, but the organic cotton ones had an

990
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: increase of arsenic. Well, I'm one of those people that

991
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: uses the organic a pot So I don't feel good

992
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: about this that I think that we know now that

993
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: that could be said about anything. I honestly feel like

994
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: the whole organic thing is just a bunch of bullshit.

995
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: It's just like everything costs more money, and it's like

996
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: it's the same with food and everything. You like, you

997
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: think it's better, but it's kind of like not really better.

998
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 2: So so yeah, it's just something to keep an eye

999
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: on because I know so many women use them because

1000
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: the stuff pours out of your body so much. There's

1001
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: like no way that they're like, what else can you do? Right? Well,

1002
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: I know you can't wear a pad sometimes or you

1003
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: would be you would not be able to function all

1004
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: day because it's pooring. I feel like a lot of

1005
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: people will be like, well, I wear the cup blah

1006
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: blah blah. But can't there be these similar problems with

1007
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: the cups too, and how they're manufacturing them and the plastic,

1008
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: well they're they're plastic. Yeah, they're plastic. So it's there

1009
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 2: right now, there might not be any like like perfect thing.

1010
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: I don't I really don't know. It's just and think

1011
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: about this too, like this is this is kind of

1012
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: a new problem, a newer problem in a history of

1013
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: humans because there wasn't tampons forever, right, so women weren't

1014
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: using things like this. They were using things made of

1015
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: like real cotton that came from a field and was

1016
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: made and things like that. And yeah, but you know,

1017
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: we even talked about that story last week where that

1018
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: woman was using cloth. I mean, she wasn't like properly

1019
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: washing it and everything. But these newer tampons and pads

1020
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: have these specific design that they're like sanitary and they're

1021
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: disposable and everything. So I think you could argue with

1022
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: even older methods like using organic cotton and whatever, like,

1023
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: they could still have problems in some capacity with them

1024
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: not being properly washed or like the detergent you're using

1025
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 2: to wash them, or the soup you're using, Like oh yeah,

1026
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: but I'm just talking about like chemicals that are getting absorbed.

1027
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: You know, there's all of these studies that are being

1028
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: done that's saying that we're that we're having increased risk

1029
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: of cancer and younger people. And I think that this

1030
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: is what the whole point of this study is to

1031
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: kind of see like is this what is causing it?

1032
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: Is this a factor in what's causing it? Because like

1033
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: something's causing it, no, totally. So in March, we talked

1034
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: about a patient who had received a pig kidney transplant.

1035
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: I believe he was the third patient to get it ever,

1036
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: and there's been four patients that have now had it,

1037
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: but they have all died within two months of getting

1038
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: the transplant. So there's about one hundred thousand people that

1039
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: are on the transplant list at least and to get

1040
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: a new organ. And sometimes people aren't considered eligible, like

1041
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: older people that they think, okay, if we give this,

1042
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: like let's say, for example, you needed a kidney, didn't

1043
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: leave Selena Gomez get a kidney transplant. Yeah, so she

1044
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: was she has lupis, and she was very young and

1045
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: she needed it, but she was otherwise healthy. So they

1046
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: look at her and they say, Okay, she's very young.

1047
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: If she gets a kidney transplant, there's like a very

1048
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: high probability of her surviving another fifty years. So let's

1049
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: give it to her first because she's a good candidate

1050
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: for it. Whereas some people that need it might be

1051
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: like sixty five and they and they're not really in

1052
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 2: good health, and they think if they gave that same

1053
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: kidney to that person, they might only live two years

1054
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a waste of an organ. Like

1055
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: this is how they have to do it, just based

1056
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: upon how many people need an organ, so in these

1057
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: cases they were they're thinking, like, Okay, we're going to

1058
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: transplant pig organs and try to see if that will work,

1059
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: because then we will have access to so many more

1060
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: organs for people that are even considered maybe at like

1061
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: a low risk of surviving something like this. So it

1062
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: does make sense that some of these people that opted

1063
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: to get this very experimental treatment did it because otherwise

1064
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: they were going to die anyway because they weren't going

1065
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: to get a kidney. So I would have did it

1066
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: too if they if they said, Okay, you're either going

1067
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: to die in three months because you're in kidney failure,

1068
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: or you could try this and have a chance or surviving, Like,

1069
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: of course you're going to do that, right, And it

1070
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: was a very important thing for these people to be

1071
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: like human guinea pigs for science, and it will help

1072
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: in the future to try to see what went wrong.

1073
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: They'll do autopsies on all these people and really examine

1074
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: the organs and see why they failed. And I think

1075
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: it's a good step. It's kind of cool that they

1076
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: were even able to make people live for a couple

1077
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: months on it. So there needs to be like a

1078
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: lot more done it. But I mean, this is how

1079
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: medicine works, and sometimes the only way you could experiment

1080
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: is on real people. You just can't simulate it. I mean,

1081
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: I think the fact that they lived at least two

1082
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: months proves that there's some success behind it. They just

1083
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: you know, they're still ironing it out. It's like a

1084
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: brand new revolutionary surgery. So they just have to, you know,

1085
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: take this, like what you said, take this, see what

1086
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: went wrong, and try to progress on that until they

1087
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: have the perfect recipe for it. Yeah. Okay. So a

1088
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: new study has come out revealing the truth behind the

1089
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: pool smell that we are all familiar with. A study

1090
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: was done that says that it's not whenever you smell

1091
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: pool and you smell that strong chlorine smell, it's not

1092
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: actually the chlorine itself, but it's chemical byproducts that are

1093
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: given off when chlorine mixes with body fluids, especially urine,

1094
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: That is disgusting. It's disgusting. But I don't one hundred

1095
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: percent agree with this because when you go to the

1096
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: pool store, which I've been to many times over the

1097
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: past couple of months, the whole store smells so strong

1098
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: like chlorine and clearly like that's not even mixed in

1099
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: water yet, Like those chemicals just smell strong in the store.

1100
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: They have a very specific smell. It happened to like

1101
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: when you used to pee in a pool and it

1102
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: would turn dark blue. When that was like a thing.

1103
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: It was always like, don't be in the pool because

1104
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: you don't know which pool is gonna have this chemical

1105
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: in it that's gonna dye the water this color and

1106
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: like embarrass you. I literally have never heard of that.

1107
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: I don't It's been depicted in movies and stuff too,

1108
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: but I remember remember that place Soupy Island that like

1109
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: Joan and Joe used to take me to. Yeah, I

1110
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: feel like that pool had it. I don't know. Is

1111
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: that just like some wives tale that old people used

1112
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: to tell you so you wouldn't pee in the pool.

1113
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've not It probably is aftail, but yeah,

1114
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: like when I was a little kid, it was the

1115
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: thing when I was a little kid in like the

1116
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: mid to late nineties, was don't pee in the pool

1117
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: because you don't know if it's gonna turn dark blue,

1118
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: and then everybody will know you peede in the pool.

1119
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh I don't, I don't know. Well I could look

1120
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: into that later. But when you have so when you

1121
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: mix chlory, and this is how they did the study.

1122
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: They mixed it with uric acid, which can be found

1123
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: in urine and sweat, but there's like so much more

1124
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: of it in urine. And when they mix it, it

1125
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: causes a chemical like a byproduct which is called trichloramine

1126
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: and cyogen chloride, and those two byproducts of the mixture

1127
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: of these things is now this is something I do believe.

1128
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: It gives off a vapor that causes eye irritation, difficulty breathing.

1129
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: And they even say that people that studies have been

1130
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: done with people that are in the pool a lot swimmers, children,

1131
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: things like that they have an higher increase of asthma

1132
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: and lung disease. It's kind of interesting, and I do

1133
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: hear that sometimes, Like when I did always think when

1134
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: you went to the public pool that maybe they just

1135
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: put extra chlorine in because there were so many people.

1136
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: Because the public pools definitely have an like an extra

1137
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: strong when you walk by it, you're like, WHOA. Especially

1138
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: like a water park, it like it's very you know,

1139
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: an indoor water park that's enclosed. It almost feels like

1140
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: you're breathing in chemicals like it's too much. Yeah, So

1141
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: that does make sense to me that maybe it is,

1142
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 2: especially with all those people that it's you'rein mixed with

1143
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: the chemical that it you know, you know, if you

1144
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: breathe in like menthol like that, like it burns your

1145
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: like throat a little bit when you breathe it in.

1146
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: I get that. Like when we went to that horrible

1147
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: place on Earth, the wolf Lodge place Jesus, I don't

1148
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: know either, but that place, when we walked in to

1149
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: this enclosed water park, it like took my breath away

1150
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: of how strong the chemicals were, to the point I

1151
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: said to gabelake, is this just like is something not right?

1152
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: Is this too much? Like this is really bothering me

1153
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: right now? So I guess that that kind of makes sense.

1154
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: But I also just think that the chemical itself is

1155
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: strong too. So I don't know. But one of Lilian's

1156
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: friends actually said to us the other day, like, how

1157
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: come when I open my eyes underwater in your pool

1158
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't burn my eyes where? And she said, like

1159
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: when she goes to the public pool it does. So

1160
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: I just thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah, it is,

1161
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: I mean, another interesting thing this article said was that

1162
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people substitute taking showers with going in

1163
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: the pool, and that about forty percent of people surveyed

1164
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,959
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen said they had peed in the pool

1165
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: at sometime. So I mean that doesn't surprise for a

1166
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: Those are those percentages my children be cause like once

1167
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: the summer starts, you're just like, hey, have you taken

1168
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: a shower this week at all? And you know you'll

1169
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: say to them like, did you take a shower? No,

1170
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: I went in the pool. But I remember being a

1171
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: kid and saying that time off. That's let them be.

1172
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: Kids would think that's more unique to children because every

1173
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: time I go swimming, I like feel I have to

1174
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: take a shower after you just have that like grossness

1175
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: on you. I don't know, Yeah I went swimming yesterday

1176
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's like your hair is like kind of

1177
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: rap my hair and gets like really rubbery. So I

1178
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: have to take a shower every time we go swimming.

1179
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. But children just don't care about stuff

1180
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: like that. Duh. All right, let's get into other death news.

1181
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: So the mass shooter of the Parkland school shooting from

1182
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen is in a civil suit with one of

1183
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: his many victims, and they have come to this unique

1184
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: settlement conclusion where he is going to donate his brain

1185
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: to science to be looked at. This is great. I

1186
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: think that this is great. The only negatives I have

1187
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: for it, which makes me think that it might not

1188
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: really even help. I know, it'll make the victims feel

1189
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: better and everything, But this guy, he's only twenty five

1190
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: years old, right, and he's serving in jail, prison, life

1191
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: in prison, so he could live another fifty years, another

1192
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: sixty years, so we're not We might not even see

1193
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: this happen for such a very long time. And in

1194
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: that time, the good part is, I guess, is that

1195
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of advancements in science will

1196
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: be made. Obviously, so maybe I'm talking out of line

1197
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: here as far as the capabilities of what we have

1198
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: right now. But there's always this thing with brain injuries

1199
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: that it's like nature versus nurture, Like does he have

1200
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: something wrong with his brain anatomically, which is what we

1201
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: would be able to see now doing the studies even physiologically,

1202
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: like that's how the brain works, or is it a

1203
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: nurture thing, which is like this kid was born into

1204
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: a screwed up situation, and we don't really I don't

1205
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: know if we know much about his parents, but he

1206
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: was put in an orphanage when he was born, so

1207
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of parents he came from.

1208
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: But that's another thing, Like were they addicts, did they

1209
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: have mental health issues? I don't know. But he got

1210
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: adopted and then both of his adopted parents died. One

1211
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: of them died a year prior to him doing this

1212
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: mass shooting. And then on top of that, it was

1213
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: like this kid had behavioral problems in school his entire life.

1214
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: He was moved around to six different schools with ADHD.

1215
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: At some point he was diagnosed with autism. He had

1216
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: all the depression, this and that. So he was a

1217
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: troubled child his entire life. So what I'm trying to

1218
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: say is I'm not exactly sure that looking at his

1219
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: brain is going to really help with that, because it

1220
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: could just be because of all the trauma he experienced

1221
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: in his life. Yeah, I guess it's just interesting because

1222
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: like the brain is just so like, you know, it's

1223
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: still so foreign. Even though we have all this science

1224
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: and everything now, they just still aren't really sure how

1225
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: everything works. So I think for them to just have

1226
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: access to something like this could be a cool opportunity

1227
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: for scientists to try to see if there's any glaring

1228
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: thing that's going on and try to compare it to

1229
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: other people. I mean, like you said, he could live

1230
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: for another fifty years though, and then we're not looking

1231
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: at this for fifty years. So I think I think

1232
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: their hope is to try to look at this brain

1233
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: and see if they can see anything to prevent this

1234
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: from happening in the future. But that's a decades a wit,

1235
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: and I mean we have in the I mean, this

1236
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: is how we learned about CTE and chronic traumatic encephalopathy

1237
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 2: and stuff because of doing autopsies on people who had,

1238
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, chronic traumatic brain injuries and then you're like, oh,

1239
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: they went nuts towards the end of their life, Like

1240
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: what happened, Let's look at their brain, And then you

1241
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: look and you could see those changes under the microscope,

1242
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 2: which is like, wow, Okay, so this person definitely had

1243
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: a history of multiple blows to the head and then

1244
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: we're seeing these changes under the microscope. So I mean,

1245
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: I would be so happy if this was helpful, and

1246
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: they they really should try to do this more because

1247
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: maybe you just have this guy now, which that brain's

1248
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 2: coming in another however many years. I mean, he could

1249
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: also die next week. You just don't know. But also

1250
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: just other people like serial killers, can we get Brian

1251
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: Coberger's brain like stuff like that and that really might help.

1252
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: So hopefully with the advancement of science and everything in

1253
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: the future, we can learn more from looking at these

1254
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think from a law perspective, this was

1255
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: just awesome to have a settlement go this way. I've

1256
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: never heard of something like this, so I think that's

1257
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: a really good achievement for the victims lawyers. I am

1258
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: interested to see if we'll try to bargain that later

1259
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: with serial killers and other people that commit crimes. It

1260
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: could be really cool study to look at overtime and

1261
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: just see if there's any really obvious side effects of this. Yes,

1262
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: So our last story today is about this woman that

1263
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: died in the Milwaukee area and her family is having

1264
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: quite a lot of problems with her funeral arrangements. So

1265
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: why is that she was eight hundred and fifty pounds

1266
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: and died at home. So there's multiple issues that go

1267
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: into trying to handle a body of this size and

1268
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: Gabes had to deal with this several times as a firefighter,

1269
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: trying to get a person not even nearly this big

1270
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: out of the house, because you have to think like

1271
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: men and women fire departments. I mean, it's just like

1272
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty pounds is a lot of weight

1273
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: to carry, and especially sometimes it's a person that lives

1274
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: on a second floor in a row house, for example,

1275
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: and there's a skinny staircase, and there's just all of

1276
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: these things that you just physically cannot get a person

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Speaker 2: out of their house. So that's the first challenge, and

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: then the second challenge is that person has to then

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Speaker 2: be transported somewhere and then they have to be either

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01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: embalmed or buried right away or cremated. And in this case,

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: there was a funeral home that said they could not

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Speaker 2: accommodate them, and then there was a crematorium that said

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Speaker 2: they could not accommodate a person of this size. And

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Speaker 2: it makes sense to me. I've had this situation happen

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01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: before when I had to do an autopsy. I said

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Speaker 2: on a person that was over five hundred pounds in

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01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: the refrigerator at the hospital because the gurney that they

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: were on or the stretcher they were on wouldn't fit

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Speaker 2: into the morgue because when the morgue was designed, it

1290
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: just wasn't designed for stretchers and gurneys that were that big.

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: Because back in the nineteen fifties, this was the morgue

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Speaker 2: I was working in, people weren't that big. Yeah, so

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01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: you're starting to see now when I see it. Anyway,

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01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: when you go to the doctor's offices and stuff, it's like,

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,879
Speaker 2: especially like urgent care, for example, it's like the chairs

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01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: in the waiting room are bigger, the tables that patients

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: sit on are bigger, because it's like people are getting bigger,

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: so they're trying to accommodate it. So when we had

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Speaker 2: a new morgue that was made in a newer hospital

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 2: I worked in, we had something called a bariatric table

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 2: autopsy table, which was like twice as wide as the

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: autopsy tables that we had at the older hospitals. And

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: that happens sometimes too, that the person's even so big

1304
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: they don't even fit on that and we just have

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: to cut them in the guarney that they'd go in

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: the refrigerator on. So and the same could be said

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01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: about funeral homes, right you have, I mean all of

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01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: the funeral homes around here, especially like the two that

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: are within walking distance of my house. They're in old

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01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: Victorian homes. They're just not made to have a refrigerator

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: that big. They just and you can't have a human

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: in a funeral home that's not in a refrigerator. So

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01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: there's all of these things, and then the same could

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: be said about a crematorium. It's just not big enough

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: to fit a stretcher that big. Like this, this is

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: what happens. And so the mom wants to see if

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Speaker 2: there could be something done because she had such a

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: terrible time just trying to get her daughter, the final

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: services for her daughter, because oh yeah, and I think

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Speaker 2: the family alluded also that because of how long it

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Speaker 2: took her to get out of the house, and then

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Speaker 2: with you know, the fire department having to get her out,

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: and how long just the whole process took, they couldn't

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Speaker 2: even have a funeral like they wanted. And I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: that's because it took so long that maybe she was

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Speaker 2: decomposing and that they weren't able to have a viewing

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: because of how that developed. Well, one of the things

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01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: you have to take into considerations that bigger people take

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01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 2: longer to decompose, because what happens is your body stays

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: way warmer than an average sized body after you die,

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01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: which then increases bacterial growth and causes it causes bloating,

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: It causes the skin to start decomposing right and turning green,

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: and the skin slippage and everything like that. So there's

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Speaker 2: all these factors in the consideration. But just to think

1335
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Speaker 2: about how difficult it is for the fire department to

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: get someone of that size out of the house and

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Speaker 2: transport them somewhere they can fit. Yes, the woman decomposed,

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01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: and honestly, like even if she got to a funeral

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: home that could accommodate that. What is I don't even

1340
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: know the process of trying to embalm a person that's

1341
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: that big, because when you embalm someone, you put it,

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: You put the chemicals through their circulatory system and it

1343
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: goes through all the way from like their arteries all

1344
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: the way down to like little arterials, like these little

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01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: blood vessels and capillaries and stuff. And when a person

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Speaker 2: is that big, I just don't know that the tissue

1347
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: ever gets fully soaked in with all those chemicals that

1348
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: you would even be able to give that person of

1349
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: viewing like that anyway. I mean, that would be something

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01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: obviously to ask a funeral director, but I just think

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: that that might be really difficult to do it. Sorry

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: I did, I don't think I heard you earlier. So

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01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 2: are you saying if the larger you are, the faster

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: ud composed or the slower ud composed. Well, it the

1355
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: process is like because of your heat and everything like that,

1356
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: it just takes it's it keeps the bacteria growing and

1357
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: everything like that, so it kind of like accelerates it,

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01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like as far as I

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01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm explaining this right, but let's say

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: you have a person at your size and a person

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: that's five hundred pounds like you're they're going to turn

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: green and start bloating more faster because of all the

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,440
Speaker 2: bacteria growth. Because when you if you do an autopsy

1364
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: on a person of your size, the day after, their

1365
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: body's going to be pretty cold. You could do an

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 2: autopsy on a person a day after a heavy person

1367
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: like that, and like you open them up and like

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: the inside of their body is like still hot, and

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: that's called that heat just accelerates the bacterial growth, so

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: she she would have to get put right into refrigeration.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't know what the deal

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01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: is with the ombombing and stuff like that, but it's

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01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: just not as simple as like, you know, Nanny and

1374
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: Pop died at the house, the funeral home came and

1375
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: picked them up within an hour, took them, stuck them

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: in the refrigerator. The whole thing was done in two

1377
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: or three hours, right, But but like this person, it's like, no,

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't just get her out of the

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01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 2: house fast and even transport her fast. You'd have she

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01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: probably had to get put in some like really big

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01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: truck or a van or something like. She wouldn't fit

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: in a standard sized transport vehicle anyway. It's just there's

1383
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 2: a lot of factors to it because and if she

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01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: was you said she was in Milwaukee or something, or

1385
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: like if it was the city of Milwaukee versus like

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01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: one of these little volunteer fire departments on the side,

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: like they might not even have the equipment or the

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: staff necessary to move someone of that size, So the

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: whole thing could just take hours. And I understand that

1390
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: this is like kind of a rare situation. And but

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: this mom, if she wants there to be a procedure

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: for this, I think that she's probably right because this

1393
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: is not the only time that's stuff like this happens.

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 2: And the fact that, like so many people are morbidly

1395
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 2: obese now, I feel like maybe there should be a

1396
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: procedure in place. But I don't, like you said, she's

1397
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: not like trying to sue or anything. I don't think so.

1398
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: But I think, like you said, like we clearly see

1399
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: this shift in the world because you know, a lot

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 2: of these doctor's offices and facilities like where you worked

1401
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: and your morgue were designed in the fifties when obesity

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: it wasn't such a thing. And that's because you know,

1403
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: processed foods are a large contributing factor to that, right,

1404
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: So it's like you have to think, with how our

1405
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: culture has changed, they also have to change how they're

1406
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: handling certain things. I mean, I feel like there are

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: definitely a lot of obese people in the world. I

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01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 2: feel like this is a pretty unique situation. Like, I

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: know there's other people that are this size, but I

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: haven't heard of something like this before. But they definitely

1411
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: should be taking it as an example to alter their protocols. Yeah, sure,

1412
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: because for me, I feel like this is like not

1413
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: happening every day, right with a person of this size,

1414
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 2: but with the rate people are gaining weight in everything,

1415
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: and with the obesit crisis we're having in the United States,

1416
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: they do need to look at that and figure out

1417
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: how they're affected or how they're responding to these calls.

1418
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: It's scary for the mom's perspective because if you think

1419
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: about like, it's already upsetting that your daughter died, right,

1420
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: and then to think that there were periods where she

1421
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: was like, I don't even know where she's going. I

1422
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: don't know what they can do. I don't know if

1423
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: they could do anything for me. It. It's I guess

1424
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: that I could see that that's why she doesn't know.

1425
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: She's just being a mom, like, hey, like, if this

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01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: happens to someone else, how could this go smoother? I

1427
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to call all around and figure out what

1428
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: they can do. I mean my first thought was like,

1429
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: if they can't even get her out efficiently when she's

1430
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: passed away, what if she was alive and they called

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: an ambulace right, Well, the same shit happens it's the

1432
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah, So I mean that's you can't be

1433
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: an eight hundred and fifty pound human. Like, it doesn't

1434
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: it doesn't work for the rest of them totally. But like, yeah,

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would be interested to see if

1436
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: she goes forward and tries to push new policies. I

1437
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I just don't even know how they would

1438
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,480
Speaker 2: do it because I'm thinking about how houses are designed,

1439
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 2: and just a lot has to change for this particular situation.

1440
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: It goes smoother, So like, I don't really I don't

1441
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: have a grasp of how things would change necessarily right now.

1442
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: But I think it's a unique case. I think it's

1443
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: important we're talking about it. It's just interesting how it

1444
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 2: all went down. Really Yeah, Okay, on the Questions of

1445
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Speaker 2: the Day every Friday at the app Mother Knows Death

1446
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: Instagram account, we put a little question box up in

1447
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: the story and you guys can ask whatever you want. First,

1448
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 2: how come dead people float but when you're alive you

1449
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: can foot Well that's because when we were just talking

1450
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: about this with the decomposition process and stuff, So that's

1451
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 2: what gets it started, is the bacteria that's inside. Everyone

1452
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: has bacteria in their body, especially in their colon, and

1453
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: when that bacteria is getting pooped out and stuff, everything's fine.

1454
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: But like think about when you like yesterday I had

1455
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: terrible gas. I don't know what the hell I ate.

1456
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: I had a tofu scramble. It was probably the soy

1457
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: that was whatever that to cut you off. But I

1458
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: have a theory it was the pizza on Monday, because

1459
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: I had that horrible migraine Tuesday and that was the

1460
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: only thing I ate that I didn't cook myself. Well whatever.

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01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: The whole point is is that when you ever have

1462
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 2: that gas in your belly where you feel like your

1463
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 2: belly is like so distended with air, that that's because

1464
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: of the bacteria inside of your colon. So when you die,

1465
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,919
Speaker 2: that bacteria then can start to multiple and it causes

1466
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 2: gas to be released. The toxins that are released from

1467
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:09,839
Speaker 2: these bacteria, and they cause air to accumulate within the body,

1468
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: which makes you like more buoyant, like a float. You

1469
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: become a float, and that's what happens. So you know,

1470
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: if you drown and stuff, you'll sink down for a

1471
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: while because your body is heavier than the water weight,

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01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: and then all this air fills up in you and

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 2: now you're lighter, so you float to the top. All right, Next,

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Speaker 2: can you talk a bit about trichobzors. Have you seen them? Yeah?

1475
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: So trichobezor is a hair ball, that's all that means.

1476
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean they What happens is that in

1477
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 2: all of these cases is that it's it's a mental

1478
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: health condition called trichtylomania, and that is when people have

1479
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: a compulsion to pull out their hair. And then trichophasia

1480
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 2: is when the people pull out their hair and then

1481
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: they eat their hair. And what happens is that the

1482
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: keratin protein and the hair can't be broken down by

1483
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: the stomach acid, so it just sits in the stomach.

1484
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: And think about like eating hair eating hair. Over time,

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Speaker 2: the hair never gets digested and it just sits in

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Speaker 2: the stomach and it causes a beezore or a beezor

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01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: is a like a ball case of this hair book, Yeah,

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: I have a case of it in the book, and

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Speaker 2: I have multiple cases. I just posted a case like

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago in the groceryom like a really really

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: advanced case. And what happens is that the hair can

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01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: start once it fills up the stomach. It could start

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: going into the small intestine and it makes almost like

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01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: a tail of hair that follows the small intestine, and

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01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: when you take it out, they consider that they call

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01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 2: that Rapunzel syndrome because it looks like Rapunzel let down

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: your hair, like a big tail of hair going down

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01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: into the small bell. Yeah, So it usually it's seen

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: like children sometimes, and a lot of times the parents

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01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: know that the kids are doing this clearly because they

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01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: have huge ball spots on their head. And it's a

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01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: really terrible mental health thing. I just saw a video

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Speaker 2: of a girl that had it that was saying that

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: she was she would just had this condition, and she

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01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: was pulling out her hair and she just only did

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: it on the top of her head, and she looked

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: bald on the top with this long hair on the bottom,

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01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: and she had to wear this hair piece to cover

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Speaker 2: the bald spots. And it's a compulsion. It's just something

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Speaker 2: that they feel like they can't control doing. And so

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Speaker 2: you know, and if you have a person that you

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01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 2: know is doing that, this is one of the concerns

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01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: because they can get really sick with this and they

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Speaker 2: go with stomach pain and then they do the X

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: ray and they're like, oh my god, their whole stomach

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: is filled. They have to get surgery and they take

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01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: it out, and it's just really it's really disturbing, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it's sad that people have to go that through that,

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 2: especially kids. Yeah, for sure. So you're saying, like it's

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01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: is it more common in children or it just could

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01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: happen to anybody. That has a lot of the cases.

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01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: It could happen to anybody, But a lot of the

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01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 2: cases that I've seen are in kids. Like yeah, I mean, yeah,

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01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: it could happen to anybody. Though I don't remember how

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: old the person in the book is. I think it

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01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: was a younger person though. Honestly, all right, this last

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: question is in reference to this pair you keep referencing.

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: Couldn't direct them pair just decompose and be pooped out?

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01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: I would say no, Like, how if you left the

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01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: pair on the countertop or something like, for it to

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01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 2: decompose enough to the point where it could be pooped

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: out would be like weeks. Right, it doesn't shrive, you know,

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: this pear wasn't It was like a normal piece of fruit.

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: It was nowhere near the point that it was going

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: to be shriveled up that small for weeks, like you can't,

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01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: how would you live? You'd have to Well, let's say

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01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: it have to come out. Say you just you just

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01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: didn't address it and you just left to be there.

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01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: I think you die. Your bow would perforate. It's you can't.

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01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't leave something stuck up your butt

1541
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: because there's already if you stick something up your butt, right,

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01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: there's already poop in there because most people have like

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: you know, you let your load out, and there's five

1544
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: other ones behind it ready to come out. You know,

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01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm still my blown SI, it's like fully encased in

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01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: the body. Oh my god, I still can't believe. So

1547
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: if you if you put so, you already have Like

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01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: let's say you eat breakfast, you eat lunch, you eat dinner,

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01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: and then you go and have sex and had somebody

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: sticks something up your butt, right, so you didn't poop

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: any of your breakfast, lunch, and dinner out, it's still

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01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: in there. So that thing is stuck up your butt right.

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01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 2: So now unless you even if you never eat again,

1554
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: like that poop wants to come out, and eventually it's

1555
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: going to perforate your colon like, that's what's going to happen.

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be like a severe constipation situation. You're

1557
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to get surgery to take it out, and

1558
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: you have to eat right, So you're gonna eat the

1559
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: next day. Now you have breakfast, lunch, and dinner again.

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01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: Now you've got six poops behind it. Then you eat

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01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: the next day, then you have nine poops behind it.

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01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: Like do you understand, Like it's not it can't sit

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01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: there and decomposed for it. Just it can't. That's why

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01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: you have to go to the hospital and get this

1565
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: thing taken out. Didn't they do that in the Jackass movie?

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01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: One of them stuck like a toy car up their

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01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: butt or something like that. They're always doing stuff like that.

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01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: I honestly can't believe there weren't more problems associated with

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01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: those movies. Yeah, but what I but when I feel

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01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 2: like I remember that and then when he went to

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01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: the hospital, he looked like he was like not happy,

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: like it was very uncomfortable, which it I imagine that

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: it is everything they do looks massive, not even that

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: it was a toy car, just like anything like a

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: del do would be too like it just you know,

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01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know, but like, yeah, you have

1577
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: to take it out. There's no Like pop Up. When

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01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: I came home and told pop Up about the pair

1579
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: in the butt situation, he was like, listen, if I

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: ever did that, I would die with that pair out

1581
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: my butt because I never would go to the hospital

1582
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: and like be that embarrassed. And I'm like, yeah, you

1583
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: say that, but guess what, like you would because it

1584
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: would hurt so bad. You would just be like, fuck this,

1585
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: I don't even care what other people think about me.

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01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: I need to sing out of my body. Imagine the

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01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: medical examiner getting a person that died they don't know

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: why they died, and then finding that discovery. Yeah, I

1589
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: mean I don't I don't even know of any cases

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: of that happening. I'm sure, like listen, like anything, this

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01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: is the best part of pathology. Is that anything that

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01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 2: your wildest dreams could imagine has happened or will happen.

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01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't have any particular cases

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01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: of of it technically, Like I have cases of people

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01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: dying like after the surgery because it didn't go well

1596
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: or something, but I haven't seen any cases of just like, hey,

1597
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 2: we found this. We had no idea why this person died,

1598
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: but which I will be looking up later to see

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01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: if I could find any cases. But I definitely could

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01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: see that that could happen, Like why not anything could happen?

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