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Speaker 1: heckma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon, Cowboys Nation, and welcome inn to the

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Speaker 2: is mix Shots and I'm mcmaharrison, he's Everson Walls, and

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Speaker 2: that is Mickey Spagnola. And guys, has the days countdown

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Speaker 2: towards this game with Green Bay, it gets a little

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Speaker 2: more hopeless and a little bit more hopeless as come on, guys,

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Speaker 2: come on now, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Remember you're checking your head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're next man up, y'all. Remember that that that

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Speaker 2: three stooges and they slowly myself, it's imminent. You guys

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Speaker 2: are feeling the pressure and everywhere you go. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the line is, but as this game gets

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Speaker 2: to uh gets close to the Sunday night, the national

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Speaker 2: media is piling on this team and basically, man, everybody's

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Speaker 2: got the clicker out. Everybody's got the clicker out showing

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Speaker 2: ebra Flus's defense and you guys have seen the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it. There's got to be a way

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Speaker 2: to fix this. And going into Sunday, your faith is

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Speaker 2: what I'm asking on. Oh, come on, ever, so let me.

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Speaker 4: Get that question out your faith that we could fix this.

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Speaker 2: Mickey, I heard you this morning on one O five

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Speaker 2: to three the fan. So you got to tell me

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Speaker 2: where are you you in between that interview and the

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Speaker 2: coaches interview on this actually getting fixed.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's what I like to hear today from he

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Speaker 5: said what we talked about yesterday. One of the one

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Speaker 5: of the terms he used, he said, better eye discipline.

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Speaker 5: Did we not talk yesterday about do these guys see

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Speaker 5: just look at what's happening. Well, one of the things

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Speaker 5: he said today is we've got to have discipline with

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Speaker 5: our eyes, and that they put in extra sessions, extra

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Speaker 5: time trying to go overthing. And as he pointed out,

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Speaker 5: today is another day. Yeah, okay, so maybe they can

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Speaker 5: see better tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow the sun was shying.

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Speaker 5: Here's what they can't say. We can say it.

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Speaker 2: What can we say?

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Speaker 5: You've got to have players, right, think about it. Think

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Speaker 5: about this yesterday? All right, Doron Bland is limited. That's hopeful,

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Speaker 5: But that means he didn't take every snap in practice

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Speaker 5: right now, Great, he was out there, he had the

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Speaker 5: helmet on when we were out there, shoulder pads and

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Speaker 5: so he did limited work. Trayvon Diggs didn't practice. Can't

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Speaker 5: get those two guys in the field at the same

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Speaker 5: time for something.

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Speaker 2: Have they ever been in the same room at the

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Speaker 2: same We haven't seen photo.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just incredible, right, So so put it

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Speaker 5: this way. There's no digs out there, there's no uh

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Speaker 5: for every play when they practice. Obviously no Bland, right

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Speaker 5: tri Quiz Bridges, how about that? You know why I

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Speaker 5: wrote it down?

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Speaker 3: Wow, I was just looking at it.

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Speaker 5: He was limited. So that means by process of elimination,

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Speaker 5: like who's available at cornerback after losing Zaire Childress, you

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Speaker 5: got Kayir Elam on one side and Robert Rochelle on

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Speaker 5: the other side. Yeah, right, practice squad cornerback who actually

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Speaker 5: got elevated last week and when they went sometimes to

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Speaker 5: five dbs, he was on the field. But those were

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Speaker 5: your corners. Those would ben your corners if all those

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Speaker 5: other guys aren't on the field. Now, how do you

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Speaker 5: feel about that? I see what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 5: You can sit there and go, well, they just don't

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Speaker 5: have divisil or they don't communicate, But who's communicating? I

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Speaker 5: don't want the B squad out there. But that's what

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Speaker 5: you right now.

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Speaker 2: So in the secondary, the can of worms that you

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Speaker 2: just opened was the conversation that I was having with

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Speaker 2: ever since before we came on air, and I basically

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Speaker 2: was questioning whether it was a talent thing versus a

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Speaker 4: That's not how he said it.

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Speaker 5: Would you interpret?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He said, well if they just saw it his hell?

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Speaker 4: What if they just saw his hell? That's what he

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Speaker 4: just said. What we went on air. Now he's trying

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Speaker 4: to be Jones to build it up. I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: build it up.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so but look, but but consider it, consider this,

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Speaker 5: Please consent.

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Speaker 3: He depressed me when he said, if there's if there's.

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Speaker 5: No digs and plans land out there, now you're out

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Speaker 5: without five of your top six corners. And when you

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Speaker 5: traded for a Kyir, I don't know that they meant

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Speaker 5: for him to be the the salty veteran starter among

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Speaker 5: the bunch. Right, he was supposed to be some depth, right,

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Speaker 5: take a chance. Now he's the last guy standing of

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Speaker 5: the top six.

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Speaker 4: I understand you have a drop in productivity, but to

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Speaker 4: this degree is the problem. I remember Jimmy put me

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Speaker 4: on the bench in eighty nine after the Arizona game,

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Speaker 4: and Robert Williams took place too, took my spot. He's

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Speaker 4: out there doing the best he could. Robert Williams didn't

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Speaker 4: make all the plays that he probably wanted to make,

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Speaker 4: you know, to make you know, to to feel in well.

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Speaker 3: But he still knew where he had to be.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: See, that's that's I get it. That a b player

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Speaker 4: can't make plays. He can't get out there and play

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Speaker 4: one on one. He you know, he can't come out

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Speaker 4: up there and make the big hit, punch the ball out.

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Speaker 3: But just.

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Speaker 4: Be where you're supposed to be. That's the difference. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're not even where they're supposed to be in order

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Speaker 4: to make a play. It's as if they weren't even

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Speaker 4: being coached before they got out there.

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Speaker 3: The understanding of a starter versus.

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Speaker 4: Of of a third down player or maybe just a

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Speaker 2: You still gotta know.

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Speaker 4: They knew where they were going, they knew where they

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Speaker 4: had to be. It was just tougher for them to

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Speaker 4: make plays. That's why they were second team. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: because they were dumb. It's because they just couldn't make

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Speaker 4: the plays. I just want us playing zone, okay, playing

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Speaker 4: zone to be able to just minimize the productivity of

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Speaker 3: That way we can get our offense on the field

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Speaker 3: and we won't have so much catch up to make

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Speaker 3: up for. Does that make sense? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yes, So you.

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Speaker 4: You physically, okay, physically you might not be that good,

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Speaker 3: So we just saw that was it a was as

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Speaker 3: I are. We just saw.

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Speaker 4: I keep to Lee was critiquing the Cowboys offense and

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Speaker 4: he was talking a defense, and he was talking about

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Speaker 4: how the plays that Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Made, they weren't great plays.

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Speaker 4: That was just us screwing up mentally, and that, to

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Speaker 4: me is the way our secondary is playing in a nutshell.

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's why they're having extra sessions.

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Speaker 2: I guess I have.

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Speaker 5: His point was and his point was He said that

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Speaker 5: he thought yesterday's practice was one of the better ones

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Speaker 5: they've had all year. But you got to be consistent.

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Speaker 5: And so what you're saying is, okay, if if you're

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Speaker 5: batting five out of ten on your assignment, hang good god,

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Speaker 5: my hundreds not here, right? And so those are the

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Speaker 5: things that I think you I've got to button down.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I was a very naive player because I was just

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Speaker 4: so into what I was doing. I'm going through the

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Speaker 4: whole Cowboys career here, and then when I went to

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Speaker 4: the Giants, uh that Super Bowl year, they would have

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Speaker 4: our scores on the door.

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Speaker 3: I never with the scores.

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Speaker 5: Your personal performance was that before that other place gives

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Speaker 3: I don't know who who talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the other place.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they saw. But this is like

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Speaker 3: the coaches.

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Speaker 5: This is in house, and so some guy in a commuting.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, these are guys on our coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: That was their job was to grade us every week.

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Speaker 4: And I did not know this until like week ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we were winning, you know, rookie. No, I was with

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Speaker 4: the Giants with the Giant No, no, I never I

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Speaker 4: don't know if we did that here because I kind

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Speaker 4: of cared about what someone else said about because I

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Speaker 4: but I didn't know grades came into play. If that's

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Speaker 4: to those freaking negotiations.

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Speaker 3: I ever pat, But I didn't know anything about grades.

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Speaker 4: So I go to New York and uh Myron got

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Speaker 4: my safety, he says, Now. I said, man, ever since

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Speaker 4: you get an A every week? And I said, what

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Speaker 4: to say this, what are our grades for our secondary?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Not Once again, it wasn't about if you make a

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Speaker 4: Not on your grade. Your grade is if you're what

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Speaker 4: are you supposed to be?

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Speaker 3: Period?

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Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure all of our starters, this is

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Speaker 4: New York, we got on TV. We gotta call banks.

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Speaker 4: You know you got guys that that thought the game.

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Speaker 4: Pretty sure everybody got around alb I'm pretty sure I

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Speaker 4: wasn't unique in that. But what are our grades here?

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Speaker 4: I would like to see what they grade us on,

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Speaker 4: just responsibility wise, not playmaking.

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Speaker 2: What was your when you were in New York, what

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Speaker 2: was you guys's base deferentt D two cover two CO two.

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Speaker 2: So if all us fails, and I'm sure y'all had

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Speaker 2: a signal for what cover two was, if it's something

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Speaker 2: else had been called and it had been reversed back

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Speaker 2: to cover two, you could go back to what that

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Speaker 3: Easily, easily.

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Speaker 2: You knew your base defense like the back of your hand,

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Speaker 2: because that's if all else fails. Take glass off of button. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the base defense here is zone and so.

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Speaker 3: And that's good. That's good.

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Speaker 4: But you have to make the adjustments within your defense

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Speaker 4: depending on the team, right, Yeah. I mean, if you've

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Speaker 4: got a team that's going deep all time, to think, hey,

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Speaker 4: maybe our corners maybe play a little softer. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: make sure you bring him inside as much as possible.

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Speaker 4: But instead of going for the flare or the dump off,

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Speaker 5: Ar if it's third and eight, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: So you already know how they're great and now based

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Speaker 5: So figure it out.

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Speaker 3: They talked about they were talking about eyes. That's what

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Speaker 4: First of all, the rhythm is no way there's gonna

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Speaker 3: So come on, man.

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Speaker 5: you're thinking the defense is coming out going Okay, we're

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Speaker 5: But I know, I know when you when you see that, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: You gotta know that. That's what they know. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's that's why I know, that's what they know.

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Speaker 5: That's why I thought the play was perfectly called at

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Speaker 2: Well, when do we get to the point where we

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Speaker 2: I mean I would everything were dragging guys.

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Speaker 5: But now are they capable?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the that's the million dollar question because

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Speaker 5: But that's what they got.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly if the Calvary is not coming in the defense,

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Speaker 5: Jadavian clowning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're talked about. Hope he comes to it.

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Speaker 2: Listen to me.

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Speaker 5: He goes absolutely, and I go in. He goes twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 5: I got traded from the Texans to Seattle. He was

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Speaker 5: he didn't sign his franchise tag and they finally had

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Speaker 5: so he hadn't practiced, no training camp, no off season.

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Speaker 5: He goes up to Seattle and he tells me. He goes,

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Speaker 5: you go look it up just like that. I said,

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Speaker 5: well I will. He said, I played forty six snaps. Wow,

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Speaker 5: I said you did not. He goes, I played forty

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Speaker 3: Look it up. That's a odd number. Specific he remembered it.

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Speaker 5: So I go get the play by play. I looked

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Speaker 5: it up. He played forty six snaps, two tackles, one sack,

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Speaker 3: Well, he has always been known to be special.

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Speaker 5: So let's see it. Because they're saying he's trending. He's saying,

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Speaker 3: May he may give him some leeway and give him

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Speaker 5: Or just put his put him out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope he still has that twenty nineteen body

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Speaker 2: We got your favorite subject coming up here and it

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Speaker 2: is Micah Parsons and that defense returning to AT and

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Speaker 2: But Micah is on a defense that quite honestly is

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Speaker 2: you can look at the next couple of games, fourteen games,

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Speaker 2: they could be the number one defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: As you've continued to dive into that dope sheet you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do a nice job up front, but they

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Speaker 5: Mike is lined up at right defensive end, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: I don't know to pick up parsons, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If it's the uniqueness of his speed and momentum. When

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Speaker 4: you go inside. It's inside rush. To me, it's his strength.

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Speaker 4: That's where he really shows what he can do. He

443
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: comes with the rip that always got him in the face,

444
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: you know, in the side of the helmet, but he's

445
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: always ready to lean in on that stunt. Now this

446
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: I wouldn't call it a stunt. I guess you cook

447
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: good called a stunt. But when he if someone's going

448
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 4: to shield off his man and that gives him a

449
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: chance to have momentum going in to I guess the

450
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: guard then going around him, well, Yeah, because there's no

451
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: one there. Well, he could he could shake him down,

452
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: he could break him down like a basketball movie.

453
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: He can do all of that.

454
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 4: But when you have that much room between you and

455
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: that offender, uh, it gives him a lot of chances

456
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: to increase here, crease there, or even just.

457
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: Bull rush agains.

458
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 10: Well.

459
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 5: A lot of what Cleveland was doing, they were running

460
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 5: right at him.

461
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: So do you think that was because of the run.

462
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: They were doing that that they the green Bay was

463
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: doing that because of the run protecting.

464
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: Well, they were doing that in passing.

465
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: Situations, so they were catching them. Okay, So basically what

466
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: they were doing is catching them out of position when

467
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: they were stunting, and that was using the big leaving

468
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: a big hole behind.

469
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: But they ran at him and the success and they

470
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: neutralized it against the run, yeah, seventy nine. I didn't

471
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 5: look up the tackle. I think it was their left tackle.

472
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 5: I want to say against the run, he was no

473
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: factor and there were times where they take him out

474
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 5: of the game.

475
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: So that that green Bay defense, of course, they played.

476
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: But the rest of them to win that they got

477
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 5: two They got two sacks in the game. Both were

478
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: Gary's right. So you just gotta keep them occupied by

479
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 5: running the football well or efficiently. You don't have to

480
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 5: run it a lot, just and we've been good at that,

481
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 5: and as long as they hold onto the ball at

482
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 5: the end of the run.

483
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: And guys, we've talked about the opportunity that George Pickens has,

484
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people were so high

485
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: up on George Pickens when he first came over, because

486
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: when last season all you had was CD and the Maybies,

487
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully a guy would come on and so

488
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: that next man mentality that we're talking about, we're seeing

489
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: that front and center. But there are other guys that

490
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: are going to have to replace the production of George

491
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 2: Pickens as a number two wide receiver. Who's gonna be

492
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: that amongst the Jalen Toberts, the Flinoise and the Turpins.

493
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 5: Gotta be that's your only three choices.

494
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: It's gotta be back committing. It has to be back

495
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: committed they have.

496
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know which one I would rather

497
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 4: have as the number two, but I think Terpin is

498
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 4: definitely someone that if yoused properly, he could really take

499
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 4: the top off of this thing. If they just I

500
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 4: would have to give him a try, I would go,

501
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: I would at least give him two tries for a

502
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: deep touchdown. They just run a straight nine from the

503
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: slot and let me see what you got.

504
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: Why didn't neither one of you guys say correct me

505
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: and say, Jake Ferguson, Well, I mean it was a setup. Question.

506
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson's next, Jake Ferguson. As far as the stats

507
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: are concerned, As far as the numbers, he's number one

508
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: amongst tight ends right now. As far as receptions is that.

509
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: Thirteen catches last week.

510
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: For what fifty yards?

511
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: More than more than? Maybe it was? Yeah?

512
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 3: More than Wait I was joking, is it sixty?

513
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

514
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: Come on man, yeah, wait wait, and you're telling me.

515
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm asking, I'm asking now you have seemingly yeah,

516
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna need skill. Come on, eighty two. He had

517
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: eighty two. But none of you even said, like to

518
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: even think that the slack could be made up by

519
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: your tight end who had thirteen catches.

520
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: I just haven't see them using him effectively. If they

521
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: want to change how they use him, then that's fine.

522
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: Are we still going to have to keep him in

523
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 4: for protection and then leak out? Because if you do

524
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: that then of course he has no room to get downfield.

525
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: And the pressure. This is how they play the Cowboys.

526
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: When you're sitting down on routes and we're not trying

527
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 4: to take that top off down the field, you're going

528
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: to have not just pressure. That means the second level

529
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: of your defense, they're not going to be back here.

530
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: They're going to be right here supporting their front line.

531
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 4: And that means that Ferguson will always have somebody looking

532
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: right at him when he leaks out.

533
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: See that.

534
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: That's what happened in the Chicago game. There was somebody

535
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: on the entire time. He couldn't break tackles. That's not

536
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 4: his I mean I wish he could break some tackles.

537
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: But those guys they played, they get paid as well.

538
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: And that there was no yak at all.

539
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 5: Well, he was the relief guy of course, right just dumping,

540
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 5: but after protecting right, which is you know we needed that,

541
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: we needed that. And here's the deal for him to

542
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: be as effective as we've seen him, Like on that

543
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: same pass, your outside guys have to occupy some defenders, right,

544
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 5: and the guy in the slot's got to take another corner.

545
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 5: So maybe he's on a linebacker and the safety's got to.

546
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: Hover over right right, that's usually way.

547
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: But if if they think, like we're thinking, okay, Pickens

548
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: is the guy, well, what are they going to do?

549
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 5: Dublin double them right, So the guy on the other

550
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: side has got to produce. The guy on the other

551
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: side has to attract some eyeballs. So the middle of

552
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: the field opens up. Now in there, if they're in

553
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 5: two tight ends, you're in two wide receivers. Right, Well,

554
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: can Tolbert FILNOI do something on the outside out? It

555
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: would be neat if they had Mingo available and he's

556
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: at the soonest next week, right, he's got one more year.

557
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: Why do you because he's available.

558
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: I'se he's big.

559
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 5: He's big, and he's fast, and he's strong and and

560
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: he's the guy that was going to be I think

561
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: he might have outplayed Tolbird in training camp. Really, I

562
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: thought he had a good training uh and he was

563
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: a target down the field. But again, he's not available.

564
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: But here's a here's a Tolbert because.

565
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 5: Turping on the outside, they'll just back up, but he

566
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: can carve him in the middle. If the linebackers are.

567
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: Okeay, well that's what they did. On the crossing route, right,

568
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: And that was all the time they knew that someone's

569
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: going to be over the top looking at him, and

570
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: he actually beat two guys coming across the middle.

571
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: So they're going to have to be creative to to

572
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: keep this passing game going. It's not going to be

573
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: just okay, throw it to George Pickens because they thinking

574
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: they're gonna throw it to George Pickings, So.

575
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: So faith his I guess My question is is do

576
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: you view George Pickens before George Pickens got here? Did

577
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: you view him as a number one wide received? Yes?

578
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: I did so, And when he got here, I viewed

579
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 5: him as a number one right.

580
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and so same here away from the Dallas Cowboys,

581
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: the rest of the NFL. Most number one wide receivers

582
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: in the league draw a double team. Correct, So this

583
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: shouldn't be He's not in foreign territory according to what

584
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: we know about number one wide receivers. So how does

585
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: your game plan change because he's now? It should now,

586
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm what I'm saying. I'mplying is your game plan shouldn't

587
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: change because now he's the number one wide receiver.

588
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it should change because now you have

589
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: you had two number one true, Now you only have

590
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: one number one absolutely and now who number double team?

591
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: Now who do you double team? If you if CDs

592
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying now. But before CD got hurt,

593
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: you had you had to pick your poison on which

594
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: one you go double team?

595
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: And think about it. There's only two teams in the

596
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: NFL that have a one A one B wide receiver.

597
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: And I would say that's Detroit and Cincinnati. I was

598
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: gonna say, right, And so those that'll give you to

599
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 2: make you think, Okay, who's the double team gonna go to?

600
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: All right, But in this case, I guess before ced

601
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: Lamb was hurt, you it was a picky poison kind

602
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: of situation. But now, even though that changes with the injury,

603
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: the double team is gonna go to George Pickings. But

604
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: still George Pickens is in a situation with us where

605
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: he has to prove his worth.

606
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: Right now, Well, you've got to scheme something to defeat

607
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: the double team. Like the guy that's doubling. You've got

608
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: to do something to.

609
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: Get you got to rub routes, all rub routes, blaunch routes,

610
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: all of that. There's really there's ways to do it,

611
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: if that's what you want to do. I never see

612
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: the Cowboys doing that. I have never seen them try

613
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: to create space with combination.

614
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: Routes and like run into the Yes.

615
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never seen the Cowboys.

616
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: Now, let me give you an example. So in that

617
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety two NFC title game against San Francisco, San

618
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: Francisco decided they were gonna double Michael Irvin and single

619
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: Alvin Harper. Okay, Michael Irvin repeatedly beat the double. They

620
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: changed at halftime. It was like, okay, we're not doubling

621
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: him anymore. Dion get over there and cover it. Because

622
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 5: Dion started off on Elvin Harper right, and they said, okay, Dion,

623
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: you got him. We're not doubles that.

624
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: Day.

625
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: And then Michael showed Dion what he could do. It

626
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: wasn't like okay for fans call that's right, they're coming

627
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: back and win the game, right, yeah, man, because when

628
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 5: they started the game off, I'll never forget.

629
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: I've never seen look so tired. I've never seen him.

630
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: They started the game off. First play, Dion's on Harper

631
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage and he basically slapped his knee right

632
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: like I'm with you. You know, you getting off right, It's like, okay, fine,

633
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: but your double's not working on Michael Irvin. So they

634
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 5: put him over there, and Michael Irvin wore him out,

635
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 5: and we.

636
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: Might want to call Mike and see if he has

637
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: any eligibility because the truth is, Mickey, how unfair to

638
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: start an argument with Hall of Fame wide receiver Michael

639
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: Irvin and a double team.

640
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: Using that as an example. How we can we Mickey?

641
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: I love going down I talking.

642
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 5: About a barnas Hey, George ways.

643
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: To George of the Lucky Room and say George will

644
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: tell you ninety two, and he would say I can

645
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: do it? Yeah he should, right, yeah he should.

646
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 5: I love his confidence.

647
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Now this is this is a young man that obviously

648
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: before he got here was in flux with Pittsburgh, but

649
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: needed to prove himself as he as a number one

650
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: wide receiver. He's the numbers are there for sure.

651
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: Right the touchdown he's done extremely well, Yeah, I mean

652
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: he's done it.

653
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: He can't. He's come in with a reputation and I think, man,

654
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: look this game to me. In the next couple of

655
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: games that ceedee Lamb is out. If he's a guy

656
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: that could carry the weight for you in that passing game.

657
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: And guys like Jalen Tobert Interpin because they have the

658
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: more advantageous matchup. You know, they have the third and

659
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: fourth guy on them that they could absolutely take advantage

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Speaker 2: of their matchup and be productive in the passag.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they could, but they're third and fourth guys. I mean,

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Speaker 4: so you know what kind of confidence do they have

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Speaker 4: in themselves? And that's what you look at when I

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Speaker 4: like what I like about Pickens versus the double team CDs.

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Speaker 4: His expertise to me is getting open and you know

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Speaker 4: he loves to body catch, and I don't mean unnecessarily

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Speaker 4: he's in he makes he puts himself in the position

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Speaker 4: to where Dak can put that thing right there and

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Speaker 4: he can catch it like this or like that.

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Speaker 2: And he's gone.

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Speaker 4: Pickens, I think against the double team he's more effective,

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Speaker 4: first of all, with his win span is stronger and

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Speaker 4: his catching ability is strong. I think you could have

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Speaker 4: two guys on him and that's you know, fifty to

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Speaker 4: fifty balls. We've seen it, and he's gonna he can

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Speaker 4: out catch two guys going for the ball. He can

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Speaker 4: do that, I think on the consistent basis as long

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Speaker 4: as he puts himself in position to do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want him to have.

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Speaker 4: To be covered like CD was on that great pass

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Speaker 3: I don't want to have to be covered back and forth.

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Speaker 4: I want him to be in front of both guys

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Speaker 4: because he can body them out with his size and

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Speaker 4: with his wingspan.

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Speaker 3: He looks good though.

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Speaker 3: I did my rally day.

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Speaker 11: Okay, you just get one a year.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, unfortunately he's going to the Packers rally. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 5: going to maybe there's money, No, there is chicken and

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Speaker 5: pickle grapevine? Really yeah, Packers rally.

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Speaker 3: See that goes. He's undercovered, undercovered, under covered. Growing up

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Speaker 3: a Packer fan, and you were.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you grow.

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Speaker 3: Out of things.

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Speaker 2: You know, this guy lived in Chicago, grew up in

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Speaker 2: Chicago and is a Packers fan. Do you know how

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Speaker 2: much arguation? Do you know how much arguing Mickey Spagnola

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Speaker 2: is done in his life? The Packers fed.

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Speaker 5: The Packers won five championships in Chicago, A different thing.

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Speaker 5: If you fans couldn't say a thing. They won five

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Speaker 5: WANs a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like being a Philly fan in Dallas.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, get me up to speed on once transpired.

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Speaker 10: The first forty minutes of this show.

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Speaker 2: Well we got two schools of thought here. I was

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Speaker 2: saying that, you know, maybe the players are no good,

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Speaker 2: and ever since is saying maybe the philosophy is no good?

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Speaker 3: And wait wait, how did you say it?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, okay, and I said their eyes were

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Speaker 5: no good.

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Speaker 3: Mickey said their eyes, which is what the coach said.

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Speaker 2: Wait, he had that backed up.

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Speaker 5: So secondary iber Fus kept talking about I discipline.

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Speaker 11: Okay, I'm here to bring you hope, hope for a

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Speaker 11: new tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Keep hoping.

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Speaker 3: Go back to the nineteen no.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 11: I watched the coaches film.

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Speaker 10: They're all twenty two of the Packers offense, and we

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Speaker 10: talk a lot about the injury issues that the Cowboys

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Speaker 10: have on the offensive line. Of course with CD, but

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Speaker 10: if you look at what the Packers are dealing with

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Speaker 10: right now, you can make a great case that there

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Speaker 10: have more issues on their offensive line with injuries than

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Speaker 10: what the Cowboys do right now. Tell me what I

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Speaker 10: got to do is go look at that Cleveland game

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Speaker 10: and yeah, Cleveland's got a really good defense. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 10: And so I had just shoked it up to Cleveland's

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Speaker 10: got a really good defense until I went and watched

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Speaker 10: the film and I saw that Zach Tom the right

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Speaker 10: tackle for the Packers. You know, I mean plays he

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Speaker 10: played in that game. He did start the game and

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Speaker 10: on the first play of the game, he was lined

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Speaker 10: up against Miles Garrett, who bull rushed him, and he

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Speaker 10: came out of the game after one play.

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Speaker 2: He got it.

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Speaker 11: He got one play of Miles Garrett and yeah, never

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Speaker 11: to return. And he had he did not practice yesterday, right, Nope,

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Speaker 11: I got the injury bleak there.

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Speaker 10: He's got an oblique injury and he had already was

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Speaker 10: dealing with him. He had missed the previous game. And

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Speaker 10: so it took one play, one one bull rush from

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Speaker 10: Miles Garrett, and that oblique injury that he had kept

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Speaker 10: him out of us It sent him out of the

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Speaker 10: Cleveland game too.

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Speaker 5: So it was like the old DeMarcus ware female.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So they replaced Zach tom with Jordan Morgan number

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Speaker 10: seventy seven, who was their first round draft pick last

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Speaker 10: year out of Arizona. Okay, Now, he did not get

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Speaker 10: on the field much last year, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 10: six snaps for the Packers, even despite the fact he

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Speaker 10: was their first round draft pick taken just prior to

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Speaker 10: when Tyler Geiton was taken. He was the twenty fifth

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Speaker 10: overall pick. Jordan Morgan was okay, and he six games,

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Speaker 10: one start, So he gets thrown into the mix and

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Speaker 10: you could tell right off the bat. It didn't take long.

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Speaker 11: Cleveland took advantage of him at right tackle.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So then about well it was thirty snaps into

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Speaker 10: the game, the Packers lose their left guard, Aaron Banks,

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Speaker 10: who they signed as a free agent from San Francisco,

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Speaker 10: gave him four years, seventy seven million dollar. They lose

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Speaker 10: him to a groin injury. So now Jordan Morgan seventy

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Speaker 10: seven moves to left guard, and here comes their second

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Speaker 10: round pick this year out of North Carolina State, Anthony Belton,

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Speaker 10: into the game to play right tackle.

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Speaker 11: And what was the injury?

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Speaker 10: The practice report on Aaron Banks from yesterday, did he

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Speaker 10: groin injury? Did not practice, So that's something to keep

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Speaker 10: an eye on for Sunday night. Left guard and right tackle.

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Speaker 10: And when they moved Morgan to left guard, the Browns

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Speaker 10: took advantage of that, and they took advantage of Belton

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Speaker 10: at right tackle as well.

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Speaker 3: So that also contributed to the lack of output.

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Speaker 10: So when you look at why the Packers only scored

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Speaker 10: ten points in that game against Cleveland, it had a

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Speaker 10: lot to do with Cleveland's defense, but it had probably

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Speaker 10: had just as much to do with the injury issues

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Speaker 10: they have on their offensive line, which they.

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Speaker 3: May have this week too, So we're going to go

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Speaker 3: with the misery loves company. Yeah, that's gonna be our

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Speaker 3: game plan. We loves company.

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Speaker 2: The confidence level that the Cowboys could take advantage defensively.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure they're being told that. I mean, here,

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Speaker 4: we have a chance now. Having said that, you had

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Speaker 4: an offensive line against from the New York Giants and

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Speaker 4: Chicago Bears. Yeah, but I thought the Giants was worse

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Speaker 4: back they I mean, they were in disarray and yet

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Speaker 4: they scored what forty points.

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Speaker 5: On us Packers only through for a gross one hundred

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Speaker 5: and eighty three.

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Speaker 3: How many times the love gets sacked? Did he get sacked?

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Speaker 10: He got sacked five times? Oh wow, he got sacked

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Speaker 10: five times. And it was a product of the new guys.

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Speaker 3: On their own.

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett got sense the Pro Bowl in this game

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Speaker 2: so well.

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Speaker 10: Faith Offenberg actually tweeted out a picture with the some

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Speaker 10: of the All twenty two he was looking at. It

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Speaker 10: was hilarious because the Packers had three guys blocking Garrett.

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Speaker 11: So that may be a fact too.

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Speaker 10: They're literally three guys locked on Garrett on the left

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Speaker 10: side of the backfield.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, they know when they know when they were compromised

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Speaker 2: and back.

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Speaker 10: And I just take Brian Schottenneimers show and you take anything. Well,

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Speaker 10: he expects the Packers to run the football. And that's

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Speaker 10: probably without saying it, that's probably probably one of the

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Speaker 10: reasons they need to settle things down on their offensive line,

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Speaker 10: so they need to establish the run. Jacobs had thirty yards.

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Speaker 10: Josh Jacobs had thirty yards on sixteen carries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did a lot out of the backfield in

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Speaker 2: the pass.

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Speaker 10: Bro five catches for forty four yards last week. But

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Speaker 10: so anyway, and and the Cowboys will be running the football.

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Speaker 10: You know the cow did you see the Cowboys are

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Speaker 10: second in the league and yards per carry?

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Speaker 3: Not surprised at all? Seven yards of carry. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: start off running the ball in the second.

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Speaker 2: Half, Well, they did.

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Speaker 10: They started off running the ball in the second No,

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Speaker 10: they it was five or six plays. They got to

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Speaker 10: midfield and then it was a second and five at

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Speaker 10: the forty five, the plus forty five, and they dropped

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Speaker 10: back to pass and here comes somebody around the gutting

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Speaker 10: on the left side, and they were also rushing up

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Speaker 10: the middle ten yard loss.

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Speaker 11: It wasn't just a sack.

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Speaker 10: It was a ten yard sack, and now you're throwing

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Speaker 10: it on third and fifteen, and I still say that

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Speaker 10: was the biggest play.

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Speaker 2: Of the game. And then you completely abandon the run after.

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Speaker 10: Well because you had a nineteen play drive that made

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Speaker 10: it a seventeen point lead that you gave up.

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Speaker 3: And now it was.

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Speaker 11: Literally the fourth quarter now and you had to throw it.

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Speaker 11: It had to go tempo and throw it at that point.

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Speaker 5: So I mean they started going no huddle too, right,

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Speaker 5: I remember.

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Speaker 10: That's right, yeah, because it now becomes you're not going

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Speaker 10: to have enough possessions unless you do this thing fast.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a philosophy thing. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: watch enough football. You see guys even when they're behind,

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Speaker 2: still running the ball and keeping team. I mean you

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Speaker 2: talk about the average of Carrie. That's something that benefits

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys greatly. And it keeps that defensive end off

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Speaker 2: of guiding in this game right here, even if you

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Speaker 2: get behind, you're gonna have to continue to run the ball.

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Speaker 10: That's what and that's what Sean Nimber was doing in

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Speaker 10: last week's game. And then one play you get sacked,

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Speaker 10: you try to throw downfield. One time you get sacked,

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Speaker 10: and now you're third and fifteen and what are you

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Speaker 10: gonna You're gonna run on third and fifteen And.

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Speaker 5: They did not get the ball back until nine.

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Speaker 10: Seconds nine seconds left in the third quarter. Quarter, right,

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Speaker 10: the drive, that's where it's complimentary football.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess we did mention that they got the

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Speaker 2: ball to start the third quarter, right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: That's what we talked about, that they had the sack

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Speaker 5: and that ended that drive because they started the third

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Speaker 5: quarter with Williams.

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Speaker 11: With a nine yard run that was his last carry

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Speaker 11: of the game.

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Speaker 5: Threw an out to Williams.

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Speaker 11: First down, Sanders.

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Speaker 5: Was Sanders came in six, Sanders five, and then they

932
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Speaker 5: had a down and then Sanders five and they went deep.

933
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Speaker 5: So when they got the ball back in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 5: it was no huddle.

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Speaker 10: All of that gives me hope for Sunday night. Nobody

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Speaker 10: said I'm the eternal optimist. I have hope for Sunday night.

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Speaker 10: And I can't wait to hear what my pick is

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Speaker 10: going to be.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: You on the lip, Well, I'm gonna try and look

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Speaker 5: up some former scores here.

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Speaker 11: Well, you look that up, back to mail it.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately for Bill, the Cowboys have lost nine of the

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Speaker 5: last ten games to the Packers.

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Speaker 11: There's one game in twenty sixteen, Yes there is.

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Speaker 10: Riscott led the victory on the road at Lambo and

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Speaker 10: he had to score thirty points.

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Speaker 12: To do it.

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Speaker 2: Can it be done again?

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Speaker 3: Nothing has changed? All right?

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Speaker 2: Does it?

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Speaker 11: For mix shots for a Thursday?

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Speaker 10: And it's fight Song Friday tomorrow Here on mix Shots,

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Speaker 10: Oh Cowboys.

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