WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: It Don't Come Easy

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<v Speaker 1>Hig and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The and you know it don't

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<v Speaker 1>come ease. Addition, as the Bengals fall to one in

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<v Speaker 1>three with a twenty seven to three loss at Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room comments from

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<v Speaker 1>players and coaches, and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's fun Facts conversation, we'll hear from a

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals tight end who is on the boat in Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay when an ineviated Tom Brady tossed the Lombardi Trophy

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<v Speaker 1>by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing since overly dramatic Ryder Cup commentary. The Ryder Cup

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite sporting events, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine how much pressure the golfers are under shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>I get jittery standing over a two foot putt with

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<v Speaker 1>a beer on the line with my buddies. Still, the

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<v Speaker 1>overly dramatic commentary during the Ryder Cup cracks me up.

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<v Speaker 1>The announcers use terms like courage and fortitude so often

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<v Speaker 1>that you would think the golfers were rushing into burning

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<v Speaker 1>buildings to save babies instead of trying to hit fairways

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<v Speaker 1>and greens. So congrats to Europe on this year's win.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on the broadcast, the golfers were roughly as heroic

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<v Speaker 1>as the Apollo eleven astronauts. Now let's get the football

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<v Speaker 1>and the radio replays from Sunday's loss at Tennessee. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a sweltering Sunday afternoon here in Nashville, Tennessee. The

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<v Speaker 1>temperature is expected to climb into the mid to upper

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<v Speaker 1>eighties today. It's going to be much hotter than that

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<v Speaker 1>on the field turf as the Bengals try to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the heat and the Tennessee Titans, and it is time

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<v Speaker 1>for the pigskin to fly here at Nissan Stadium. Second

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<v Speaker 1>down and one for Cincinnati at the thirty seven yard

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<v Speaker 1>line of Tennessee. Burrow stomps the right foot, catches a

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<v Speaker 1>chest high snap, swings it out into the flat, caught

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<v Speaker 1>by Chick great downfield blocking as he tight ropes the

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<v Speaker 1>sideline and goes out of bounds at the twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>of Tennessee. Here's money mack Evan McPherson looking to give

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati an early lead. This will be a twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>yard try. He hit from fifty seven in the pregame warmups.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Robbins, the rookie punter, will hold the placement the

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<v Speaker 1>right footed kick and the line drive boot is good,

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<v Speaker 1>giving Cincinnati a three to nothing lead, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun snap. Five man rush and Burrow gets smashed to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Oh, all five guys were getting close as

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow gets sacked at the thirty nine yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was just you talk about shrinking the pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they just collapsed that pocket on Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Tannehill back to throw, flings it deep for DeAndre Hawkins

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<v Speaker 1>catches at the Bengals forty five and Cam Taylor Britt

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<v Speaker 1>makes the stop at the Cincinnati thirty seven. He beat

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Taylor Britt and beat him badly. First down and

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<v Speaker 1>ten at the Bengals thirteen. After back to back big

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<v Speaker 1>passing plays, here's a short pass Westbrook at Keene toward

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<v Speaker 1>the pylon touchdown Tennessee on second and ten. It's a toss.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweepy bubbles the ball. It's on the ground. He picks

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<v Speaker 1>it up while he's running and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a big play for the Titans. Tannehill running to block

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and Cincinnati has to chase down Taja Spears

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<v Speaker 1>from behind. Dax Hill able to tackle him at the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine yard line. And that was a lucky play

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<v Speaker 1>for the Titans. No other way to describe.

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<v Speaker 2>It, no question. Was like he was dribbling the football,

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<v Speaker 2>dribbling the oblong ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Tannehill in the gun, Henry to his rights. Tannehill fakes it, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he gives it to Derrick Henry, breaks through a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of tackles, still running down to the ten hangling toward

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<v Speaker 1>the pylon, touchdown Tennessee. Twenty nine yards for Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 1>as he was bouncing off Bengals like a pinball. Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons is an eligible receiver. For what it's worth, the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl defensive tackle stays out there offensively. Can't rule

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<v Speaker 1>out the jump pass for the King. Derrick Henry Tannehill

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be under center. I formation backfield. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they shift Tannehill goes out wide to the right. Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>moves to the right as a wing. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>direct snap it to Derrick Henry. Henry looking to pass

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<v Speaker 1>throws caught touchdown Tennessee. Josh Wiley with his first NFL touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>burrow back to throw against the blitz pump packs gets

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<v Speaker 1>stripped and then falls on the ball and then somebody

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<v Speaker 1>jumps on top of him, and the Titans say they

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<v Speaker 1>have it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, I think the official saying was down five contact.

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<v Speaker 2>He was down. He's down by contact.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're changing the call and it is a

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<v Speaker 1>Titans takeaway. For the second time this year, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>failed to score a touchdown. They've scored the fewest of

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<v Speaker 1>any team in the NFL, and they lose in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>today by the final score of twenty seven to three.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have scored three offensive touchdowns in four games.

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<v Speaker 1>The forty nine ers Christian McCaffrey scored four on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>after driving seventy two yards and kicking a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>on their opening drive. The Bengals final seven possessions, not

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<v Speaker 1>including a one playnel down at the end of the half,

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<v Speaker 1>never even reached the titans thirty five yard line. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow completed twenty out of thirty passes, but he can't

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<v Speaker 1>extend plays due to his strained calf, and the bengals

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<v Speaker 1>longest passing play went for seventeen yards. Here's Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>on his QB.

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<v Speaker 3>He's playing, you know, he's playing through it, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>still limitations he's got, certainly, and that's probably very difficult

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<v Speaker 3>for him. But again, he's he's getting hit, he's having

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<v Speaker 3>to move, and he's doing a great job getting up

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<v Speaker 3>on the next point and responding. You don't feel, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes quarterbacks can get rattled by that stuff. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel that from him at all. You feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>next play is gonna be successful even if he does

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<v Speaker 3>take a hit. So again, I don't He's fighting through

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<v Speaker 3>it and I'm proud of him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Burroughs passer rating after four games is sixty nine point one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's averaging fewer than five yards per attempt. Frustration is growing.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever you're one and three, you're gonna be frustrated, You're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be angry, you're gonna be, you know, wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>win games, and we haven't been and we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>let anything like that, you know, come between us. That's

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<v Speaker 4>how you end up having a bad season. Sod bad

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<v Speaker 4>start about first quarter, so we got three more quarters

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<v Speaker 4>of the year to get through and go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Jabar Chase had seven catches for seventy three yards, but

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<v Speaker 1>t Higgins left the game early with a rib injury

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<v Speaker 1>and was primarily replaced by Trenton Irwin. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Trenton after the game. Tough team for the offense today, Trent,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys went down the field on the opening drive,

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<v Speaker 1>Dowt to the three, kicked the field goal, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't get anything going after that. Describe just how

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are feeling right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>We got into better on offensive, we got into better

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<v Speaker 6>all around. We got to sell ourselves love it for

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<v Speaker 6>opportunities to make players, and we got a lot to improve,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's that's why we're watched him so too.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like the offense is kind of operating in

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<v Speaker 1>a box. Joe doesn't have his usual mobility for understandable reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>and opponents know it. It doesn't feel like the margin

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<v Speaker 1>of error is kind of small.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been playing in the pocket, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 6>can he can do anything there. I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we just got to learn from our film there. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think there's a whole lot that I know exactly

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<v Speaker 6>went wrong right now. We looked great in the first drive.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought we were gonna be able to keep that

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<v Speaker 6>up the whole game, and we just weren't. So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know exactly when went down that made so we couldn't,

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<v Speaker 6>But I think our one of our goals was gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be first down efficient. In that first drive, we were

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<v Speaker 6>exactly that. I don't think we got any third downs

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<v Speaker 6>except for that one on the three, So hopefully we

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<v Speaker 6>can learn from what we did there and take it

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<v Speaker 6>on to the next one. And it was a game

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<v Speaker 6>on momentum and we just never really found any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemed like in the second quarter, when the game was

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<v Speaker 1>still three to three, the Titans had that one good

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<v Speaker 1>drive and that seemed to create the momentum you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>They made some place, They had some dudes make some plays.

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<v Speaker 7>They got after us there. They played physical.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that that's a physical team, and you know

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<v Speaker 6>we'd probably see them again later, but it's it's one

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<v Speaker 6>of those games. We just got to let go learn

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<v Speaker 6>from it and and just come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight, appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensively, after shining on Monday Night and the win over

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams, the Bengals allowed the Titans to score on

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<v Speaker 1>five of their first six drives. Derrick Henry finished with

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty two yards on twenty two carries,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ryan Tannehill had a passer rating of ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>point eight. Here's chittabe Owuje on the play of the

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<v Speaker 1>defense really shut him down in the first quarter. In

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<v Speaker 1>the second quarter, they had that one good drive and

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to swing the momentum. Is that how it

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<v Speaker 1>felt out there?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>And then something different, you know where I think we're

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<v Speaker 8>still fiting on our identity. You know, we know there

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<v Speaker 8>were resilient bunch because we have the guys that have

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<v Speaker 8>done it before.

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<v Speaker 7>But every year is different. I think this year.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like momentums playing a big factor in how we play.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, one of the momentum swings.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously the direction, it's kind of hard for us to

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<v Speaker 7>capture back.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, you know, they had that drive, had a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of e supposed to plays, and since that drive,

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<v Speaker 8>it became, you know, pretty ugly. You know, our rhythm

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<v Speaker 8>was all off, and you know it was embarrassment, to

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<v Speaker 8>be honest, and you know, we're sorry with the fans

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<v Speaker 8>that traveled that came and watched. But obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>it hurts even more for us as you know, brothers

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<v Speaker 8>and teams have to go out there and play. But

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<v Speaker 8>you know, we we're gonna use this as a stepping

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<v Speaker 8>stone hopefully to get better to lock to lock more

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<v Speaker 8>in sc We know we're we're close, bunch. We just

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<v Speaker 8>gotta play this to the details, like back to the dog.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, the dog mentality is just football, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>like move all the distractions and just play.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, got shut down Garret Kennery each of the

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<v Speaker 1>last two years he wound up having good numbers today.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of it in his case is if they

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<v Speaker 1>have the lead, they're gonna feed it to him and

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<v Speaker 1>feed it to him and sooner or later he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wear you down.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, he had a good game.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, It's one of the top guys in the league

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<v Speaker 8>at his position and also one of the guys we're

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<v Speaker 8>focused on the most coming into this week.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, unfortunate that he was able to have a

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<v Speaker 7>great game like he did.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, we have the guys that could stop him,

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<v Speaker 8>but he and you know, we're gonna go back and

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<v Speaker 8>look at the film and just look at the details.

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<v Speaker 8>Abous I can speak for me myself, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>just fitting Quicker off of cracks, you know, when the

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<v Speaker 8>receiver cracks down on the safeties or niklas, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>fitting Quicker and doing stuff like that, I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>we could do a great job because you know, a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of the team are trying to get to the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 8>We're trying to get to the perimeter on these runs,

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<v Speaker 8>so we have to have an edge to the defense.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think we as a cornerback group, we've been

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<v Speaker 8>working on that and we're gonna continue to work on

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<v Speaker 8>that and hopefully, you know, everybody kind of everybody plays

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<v Speaker 8>a part in it, and we'll figure out how to

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<v Speaker 8>you know, start to limit those runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Your disappointment is palpable. I'm guessing that after the Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night win, you guys probably felt, all right, we've got one. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start stacking wins.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, But, like like everybody always says, the NFL is

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<v Speaker 8>never easy. You know, the other team has to chip

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<v Speaker 8>on my shoulder as well.

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<v Speaker 7>They came in here more hungry.

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<v Speaker 8>They come up with a big loss last week, and

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<v Speaker 8>I was talking to some of the players over the game.

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<v Speaker 8>They said they were on their beat all week. So

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<v Speaker 8>they responded, now start trying to respond, you know. Moving

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<v Speaker 8>forward to Arizona, you know, we have to get on

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<v Speaker 8>each other and make sure that everybody's on details and

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<v Speaker 8>just feed off each other's energy. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 8>also an early start game, you know, twelve pm, you

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<v Speaker 8>know versus Monday night when it's home game.

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<v Speaker 7>All that energy.

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<v Speaker 8>We have to find a way to find our own

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<v Speaker 8>juice and our own energy as well. So these are

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<v Speaker 8>things we're gonna be working on, you know, throughout the season,

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<v Speaker 8>and hopefully now that we identified it, kind of nip

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<v Speaker 8>it in the bud and use it to our certain.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burr's given everything he's got, but he's not running

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<v Speaker 1>around like he normally would. It's limiting his superpowers, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. Do you sense that it's you know, difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for the offense right now without Joe being able to

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<v Speaker 1>do some of the things he would normally do.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, I don't wanna talk anything really about

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<v Speaker 7>that offense.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I know that, you know, you know the

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<v Speaker 8>dogs that we have over there, they've been together for

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<v Speaker 8>three four years now and have been very consistent for us.

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<v Speaker 8>And I know the rhythm is gonna be found. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>there's no doubt about that. You know, that's my quarterback.

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<v Speaker 7>It was with my sheivers, tight ends, running backs, a

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<v Speaker 7>line like. I believe in all of that.

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<v Speaker 8>So I just think that you know, the time will

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<v Speaker 8>things will come to how they're supposed to go, and

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<v Speaker 8>we know the talent we have on that side. Really

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<v Speaker 8>just focus on the leaf can focus on on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, thank you brother.

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<v Speaker 1>On their final three drives of the second quarter, the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans had six plays of twenty or more yards and

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<v Speaker 1>outscored the Bengals twenty one nothing in the quarter. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where Dave Lapham started his postgame conversation with head coach

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't see that coming. You know, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>we thought we'd respond better, play better, coach better. So

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<v Speaker 3>really you can point the finger at each individual person.

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<v Speaker 3>There's certainly plenty things I could have done better to

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<v Speaker 3>get the team ready to put us in a better

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<v Speaker 3>position to win. And now we just gotta suck it

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<v Speaker 3>up and go on the road in Arizona and find

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<v Speaker 3>a way to win.

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<v Speaker 2>When it starts snowballing like that, I mean, how hard

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<v Speaker 2>is that to try to stop that snowball from coming

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<v Speaker 2>down the side of the mountain like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you still believe that you can get in this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and even down seventeen at halftime, We've been in that

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<v Speaker 3>position before, We've overcome that before. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of belief in the locker room that we could do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he had an opportunity starting the second half.

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<v Speaker 3>You got him in third and seventeen and got him

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<v Speaker 3>off the field, and then they got called for we

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<v Speaker 3>got called for penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Extends it puts points on the board, took eleven minutes

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<v Speaker 3>off the clock, and then offense, didn't you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>resmonded with the turnover and so you know, just just challenging.

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<v Speaker 3>They really did a great job at the time of possession.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a good job playing physical and keep enough

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<v Speaker 3>off balance, and we just didn't respond the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Three of the four first down third down conversions that

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<v Speaker 2>they got would do to penalty. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like there's a ton of penalties. He came

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<v Speaker 2>into the game, you were tied for seventh feust and penalties,

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<v Speaker 2>third and penalty yards. But it's just, man, there's such

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<v Speaker 2>a painful penalty when they happen. It takes away a turnover,

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<v Speaker 2>takes away a sack, takes away a big play.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it's tough, especially when they come on third down.

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<v Speaker 3>And and that's that's disappointing. You know, we had one

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<v Speaker 3>on special teams that really flipped the field. I really

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<v Speaker 3>thought the guy that got called for the penalty US

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<v Speaker 3>was the guy that was going to be the receptor

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<v Speaker 3>of the penalty, you know, And and all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden it went the other way. So instead of the

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<v Speaker 3>ball being on the five, the balls on the forty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And and that's that's a challeng lenging part there in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half. That gave them auto momentum as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't figure that out because they declared that it

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<v Speaker 2>was an illegal block by somebody covering the punt. Now

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<v Speaker 2>why would he be delivering a block? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand how that whole thing unfolded.

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<v Speaker 3>If you find out, let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>So you didn't get a great explanation either. No interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got to, like you said, you travel to Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the short week have any bearing on it? You

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the guys were rested and ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You really took care of him this week big time.

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<v Speaker 3>We've done a good job playing on short weeks. We

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<v Speaker 3>still went pads on Thursday and knowing it was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a physical game, and so again I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>see any warning signs during the week. We have to

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<v Speaker 3>coach better.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to do a better job putting us in

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<v Speaker 3>position to score points. So that's a big starting point

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<v Speaker 3>I think with this team, and then each guy's got

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<v Speaker 3>to fix the things that we can control. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>to be better on third down on both sides of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, and we've got to be more disciplined when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to penalties.

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<v Speaker 2>How challenging is it you know, watching Joe in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's close to one hundred percent from when

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<v Speaker 2>I see but you know, when he has to try

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<v Speaker 2>to do something out of the pocket, pick a percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that percentage might be, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, he'll say it's not one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>How challenging is that To try to gain plan around that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't look at as a challenge. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>find ways to put the offense in great position to

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<v Speaker 3>go to score points. And scoring three points in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half is not good enough, which we've done several times.

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<v Speaker 3>Scoring three points in the game is not good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the poy caller, I'm the head coach. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to do a better job of finding ways till I

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<v Speaker 3>was to find some rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>for the radio guys, recapla, we have just emerged from

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals locker room. Disappointment and frustration is palpable as

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<v Speaker 1>you might expect. I think coming off the Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>went over the Rams, they thought they had everything going

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. But if the offense continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be as limited as it's been, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to win games.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. Dan. You know, you get a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>that's medically limited. He's gotten it out, but like we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about before the game, in the pocket he's probably

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<v Speaker 2>close to one hundred percent, But anytime he has to

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<v Speaker 2>move in the pocket or get out of the pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>pick a percentage, he's just not there. And the other

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<v Speaker 2>factor is that defenses know that if he tries to

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<v Speaker 2>goose it down the football field, it's bothershlome to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And so their short intermediate passing game is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>the extent of their offense, and teams are playing accordingly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's tough dynamic to game plan around

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but you know, they feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>can do much better than they did obviously. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the second quarter of this foot it was just incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>How you know, the domination. I mean, when you when

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<v Speaker 2>your defense is struggling, the thing you need to do

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<v Speaker 2>offensively stay on the field. They went oh for four

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<v Speaker 2>and third down and there was no support there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the complimentary football was non existent today, There's no question

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Offense couldn't get anything done. Defense was struggling,

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to, you know, ask for a life preserver,

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<v Speaker 2>and the offense didn't have anything to throw them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dream come true for opposing defensive coordinators because

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<v Speaker 1>they know Joe is not going to extend plays. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to scramble left and right if what he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking to do out of the pocket isn't there. The

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<v Speaker 1>defense has a gigantic advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you know that. You know you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>behind by two scores, three scores, four scores. If that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case, you just can't do it. It's impossible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the only way you're going to win football games is

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<v Speaker 2>to stay stay in the football game and make it

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, a contested battle, and have a running

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<v Speaker 2>game that will support that short intermediate passing game. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is it's hard. I mean you're playing in a box. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing in a closet. It's like you're playing in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone or the low red zone, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times. Then teams get a two or

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<v Speaker 2>more score lead and they play real soft, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>zone coverages and will let you take the underneath stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll rally up and make tackles. It'll pad

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<v Speaker 2>your numbers, but it's not going to win you football games.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a passing team, and the NFL is a

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<v Speaker 1>passing league. There's nobody out there that's successful and runs

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<v Speaker 1>it forty times a game. But Joe Mixon has been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty efficient this year. He averaged four point eight year

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<v Speaker 1>carries in this game. Do they have to run it more?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to start giving it to

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<v Speaker 1>them twenty nine times, but it wound up being fourteen today.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that's due to the fact that they were behind.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Yeah, I mean, I think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>from a game planning standpoint, when I watch a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the passing attack, it's an extension on the running game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the outside running game. I mean, they're they're running screens,

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<v Speaker 2>they're running swing passes, they're they're doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stuff that is almost an extension of of

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<v Speaker 2>of a running game as such. So I think in

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<v Speaker 2>their mind they'll probably think, like, you know, we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of covering it that way. That's our that's our outside,

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<v Speaker 2>our outside running game. I think when they probably do

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<v Speaker 2>stats at the end of the game, they'll take those

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<v Speaker 2>passing yards and kind of you know, slice them and

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<v Speaker 2>dice them between. This is really a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>are just an extension of what we're trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>done on the permanent or in our running game and

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<v Speaker 2>that and that's a problem because I mean, at some

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<v Speaker 2>point you have to challenge the defense. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>stretch it. You have to you know, at least make

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<v Speaker 2>them think that there's a chance you're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>over the top.

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<v Speaker 7>One.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense really won them the game on Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>against the Rams. The offense did not, but the defense

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<v Speaker 1>started in this game. Gave up a lot of big plays,

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<v Speaker 1>some really costly penalties. They could not make up for

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive struggles.

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<v Speaker 2>Teen plays of fifteen yards or more in the first

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<v Speaker 2>three football games. Tonight, they gave up seven of them

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<v Speaker 2>in one quarter in the second quarter, seven plays of

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen yards or more. I mean, that's that's that's getting gashed.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no no two ways about it. And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes it's hard to hard to stay motivated,

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<v Speaker 2>hard to keep saw on wood. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you're banging your head up against the wall. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting the support that you feel like you should be

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<v Speaker 2>getting or need to get. It can it can get

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<v Speaker 2>tough that way, But that's the way it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the way it's gonna looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be for a while. You just you just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how long it is going to be that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but they they obviously it's just it's snowballed.

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<v Speaker 2>Snowballed on them in the second quarter and the only

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<v Speaker 2>reason that it didn't continue is halftime game.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two games away from the by a road

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<v Speaker 1>game against Arizona, a home game against Seattle. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy basically, see if you can cut out a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of wins like you did against the Rams, and

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<v Speaker 1>hope and pray that Burrow's calf makes, you know, dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>improvement during the bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it? I guess that's it sounds like that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that the opponent that's spanked the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven to three. The Tennessee Titans lost in Cleveland

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<v Speaker 2>by the exact same score the week before, and they

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<v Speaker 2>reversed it. They made restitution, they did something differently, but

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<v Speaker 2>they came home. They were on the road and came home.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals get spanked on the road and they're still

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<v Speaker 2>on the road going to Arizona. It does make a difference,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no question about it. But there's no substitute for

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<v Speaker 2>getting back and sticking your nose on the grindstone, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you have to do. I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about things all you want, talks cheap. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to go to work. You know, there's no answers that

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<v Speaker 2>you can come up with just by conversing. You to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and put in the time, put in the snaps,

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<v Speaker 2>put in the reps, the time on task, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>just has to get better. That's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>How hard would it be to pass block right now

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<v Speaker 1>with a compromise Joe Burrow frequently playing from behind, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be difficult. But the thing that the advantage or

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that is in your favor, they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>the rid of the ball. So quickly. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like a three step drop almost every time

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<v Speaker 2>he throws the football because he's in the shotgun and

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting it out. But you know, if you do

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<v Speaker 2>a decent enough job when I'm just rushing four men,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's bringing pressure now too, and uh, you know they're

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<v Speaker 2>bringing a lot of times, maybe one more than you

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<v Speaker 2>can block, and that becomes an issue. So there's there

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<v Speaker 2>are solutions. But but the thing number one thing you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do is on a snap by snap basis

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<v Speaker 2>execute better. I mean, they weren't in third and miserable

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<v Speaker 2>situations and they went oher for six. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>that that puts you in a tough in a tough spot. Offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>in your defense is thinking, man, you know, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a conversion here, stay on the field. So they have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work to do, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people build last Monday's games must win.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to hear those words again heading into Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the one in three start. You look

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<v Speaker 2>back again, how many one and three teams make up Lass.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like sixteen seventeen percent something like that end up

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<v Speaker 2>making the playoffs. So now you've you know, you've you've

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<v Speaker 2>dug a deeper hole, and it's against another AFC team.

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<v Speaker 2>Your only winners against an NFC team, You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>play another NFC team. So you know, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>get too and all against the NFC. Whoopee, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean big nothing really much to celebrate there. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to start winning some division game and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to start winning some conference games if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>dig yourself out of the hole, because other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like when you win these NFC games, you're shoveling

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<v Speaker 2>dirt out. It's not all going out all the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of it's trickling back in that hole

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<v Speaker 2>continues to be a problem up.

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<v Speaker 1>Next road game at Arizona. The Cardinals are also one

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<v Speaker 1>in three after losing at San Francisco, but the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>did beat Dallas by twelve points in their last home game.

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<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere in the AFC North, the Ravens beat the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland and the Steelers lost at Houston, so Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>is three and one, including two road winds. In the division,

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns and Steelers are two and two, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are one and three. Now time for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>fun Fact segment where you get to know the person

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<v Speaker 1>under the pads. Time for some fun facts with tight

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<v Speaker 1>End Tanner Hudson from Big Sandy, Tennessee, a town of

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred people I think two hours west of Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe Big Sandy and what you did for fun growing up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Big Sandy is a pretty small town. We used

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<v Speaker 5>to go to Spillway, go down and fish with my

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<v Speaker 5>dad and my grandpa. We would friends would come over.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd go in the backyard, grab the twenty two's and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just go out and see what we could find.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of a lot of basketball in the backyard

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<v Speaker 5>with my sister as well, you know, beating up on

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<v Speaker 5>her every once in a while. But yeah, just just

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things outside. Really. You know, I played

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<v Speaker 5>my fair share of Xbox.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna lie, but uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we we like to get out and do some

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<v Speaker 5>things outdoors.

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<v Speaker 1>You attended Camden Central High School, where I've read that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to be talked into playing high school football

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<v Speaker 1>and would only do so if you could be the

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<v Speaker 1>kicker and punter. Was that in fact the case?

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<v Speaker 5>That is that is true?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Growing up the junior high and the high school kind

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<v Speaker 5>of played. Uh, they were really close as far as

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<v Speaker 5>practice was. And looking over at the high school every day,

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<v Speaker 5>seeing those bigger guys, I wasn't always six for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so looking over seeing those bigger guys, I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't know if football is for me.

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<v Speaker 5>But then my freshman year, my buddy Cody Hassel, he

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<v Speaker 5>eventually talked to me into coming out and I did

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<v Speaker 5>the kicking for them, and it was fun to be

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<v Speaker 5>out there. And then eventually, you know, I grew grew

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit and worked my way into actually wanting

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<v Speaker 5>to play a little bit more, and then ended up

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<v Speaker 5>playing quarterback my junior starting at quarterback my junior year.

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<v Speaker 5>So from there on it was it came pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun, so high school quarterback, and you also averaged eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>points and twelve rebounds in hoops. But I'm guessing there

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<v Speaker 1>weren't a ton of college scouts and coaches that came

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<v Speaker 1>to your small high school. Did you have many or

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<v Speaker 1>any college opportunities.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the Memphis Tigers came out and I did

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<v Speaker 5>like a small type of workout for them. One of

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<v Speaker 5>the coaches came out and just watched me throw, but

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<v Speaker 5>ended up my senior year last ready my spleen, I

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<v Speaker 5>think the third game, and so that kind of crushed

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<v Speaker 5>any scholarship hopes.

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<v Speaker 1>That I had.

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<v Speaker 5>Still had a few opportunities walk on wise, but now

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<v Speaker 5>as far as scouting and you know, teams offering scholarships,

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<v Speaker 5>it was it was non existent.

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<v Speaker 1>For visiting the Tanner Hudson. So you walked on at

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis as a quarterback, and after redshirting there for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>you transferred to Southern Arkansas the Mule Writers, where you

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<v Speaker 1>excelled as a tight end and also punted. When did

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<v Speaker 1>it start to seem possible that you could be an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL player?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably after my junior year. I had had a really

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<v Speaker 5>good junior year, and even even then, honestly, I knew

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<v Speaker 5>that there was a whole two divisions, you know, above

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<v Speaker 5>me with D one Double A and then D one,

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<v Speaker 5>So I knew the possibility of making it to the

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<v Speaker 5>NFL with slim, but I would I'd really like to

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<v Speaker 5>say my offensive coordinator, Landon Kepple, he helps me out

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<v Speaker 5>a lot, just kind of building that confidence and showing

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<v Speaker 5>me that I could play in league and being able

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<v Speaker 5>to go out and play my senior year. With that confidence,

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<v Speaker 5>I think helped me a lot along with I had

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<v Speaker 5>a great quarterback in Barrett Runner, and then a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of very very skilled receivers around me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't drafted, but you signed originally with the Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Buccaneers in twenty eighteen, and in twenty twenty you

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<v Speaker 1>were on a Super Bowl team. You're a tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>That team included Gronk, Rob Gronkowski maybe the best tight

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<v Speaker 1>end of all time. How would you describe Gronk on

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<v Speaker 1>and off the field.

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<v Speaker 5>The same exact person? You know, He's just he's a

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<v Speaker 5>very fun, going, outgoing guy, goofy as ever, always wants

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 5>to have a good time. He knew when it was

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<v Speaker 5>signed to be serious, and he knew when he had

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<v Speaker 5>to get his job done.

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<v Speaker 7>But he's just what you see.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it is what you get like, he's goofy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's fun to be around. Just a great all around,

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<v Speaker 5>all around.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Gronk caught two touchdown passes and that Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>went over the Chiefs. You almost caught one as well.

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<v Speaker 1>In the third quarter, Tom Brady threw a nineteen yard

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<v Speaker 1>pass into the end zone for you. That was just

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit beyond your grasp. What do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>about that moment.

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<v Speaker 5>We ran So we ran the same play three times

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<v Speaker 5>and it had a can on it, and we canned

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<v Speaker 5>at both times, and the third time we ended up

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<v Speaker 5>running the pass off of it, and uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>just remember being like, oh wow, I'm kind of open.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's let's make this happen. And then you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just a little bit outside of our reach. I could

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<v Speaker 5>have been a little further more towards the back pol

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<v Speaker 5>On maybe had a better chance at it. But it

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<v Speaker 5>was a cool experience. I'm gonna of shout out to

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<v Speaker 5>barn Left, which we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That chance, the offensive coordinator for the Bucks at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tampa Bay celebrated that Super Bowl victory with a

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<v Speaker 1>victory boat parade and we all remember the video Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady famously tossing the Lombardi Trophy from one boat to another.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a view and what did you think

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<v Speaker 1>of that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was actually setting repside cam Braid who caught it.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so it was it was crazy in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, just to be a part of something like

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<v Speaker 2>that was so special. Be a part of that that.

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<v Speaker 5>Memory with those guys being on that boat getting to

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<v Speaker 5>celebrate that moment and then yeah, Cam catching it and

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<v Speaker 5>holding it above his head like that was That was

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<v Speaker 5>a memory that I'll cherish and remember forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Braid's had a lot of catches. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>all time best, I'm guessing. Describe your Super Bowl ring.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's indescribable.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just big and beautiful and just perfect in all aspects.

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<v Speaker 5>The way you open it, and it has all the

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 5>details inside with the stadium where we run out the

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<v Speaker 5>scores to all the playoff games. Just the amount of

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<v Speaker 5>you know, diamonds that are in it corresponding with things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's something that's very very special.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope your Bengals ring that you eventually get is

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<v Speaker 1>even better. You joined the Bengals in December of last

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<v Speaker 1>year after spending most of the year with the New

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>York Giants. Now, as we said off the top, your

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>hometown has about five hundred people. Now you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>city or close to a city with eight point five mil.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that experience like?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot, not a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>We were actually in New Jersey, so it was fun

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<v Speaker 5>to have some of my friends come down and we

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<v Speaker 5>would go explore the city, you know, get a taste

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 5>of that. But you know, me and my wife are

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<v Speaker 5>not not big city folks. So we hungred down in

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<v Speaker 5>the room a lot, just a lot of hanging out

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<v Speaker 5>between us. But we would we would get out and

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<v Speaker 5>see this. We'd like to get out and see the city,

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<v Speaker 5>find some cool places to eat. So it was we

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<v Speaker 5>talked about it as it was a really great experience,

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<v Speaker 5>but something we like to just have the experience and

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<v Speaker 5>not really live there full time.

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<v Speaker 1>As they say, nice to visit, not a place you

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<v Speaker 1>want to live necessarily. So when you joined the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>last year, I thought Tyler Eifert was making a comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>The resemblance is uncanny. Have people in Cincinnati legitimately mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>you for Tyler Eifford.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't gotten to anybody outside the facility mistaken me.

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<v Speaker 5>Granted I don't go outside much, but no, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't gotten anybody outside. Darren he when I first

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<v Speaker 5>came around, started coming around, he noticed the resemblance and

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned it to me. So then I looked him up

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<v Speaker 5>and I was even shocked at how similar we do look.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it is two tight ends that look very

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<v Speaker 1>very much alike. All right, a few wild card topics.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for Tanner Hudson. Who is the greatest athlete of

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<v Speaker 1>all time in any sport?

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<v Speaker 5>Lebron James. I'm a big Lebron fan. I understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>old George me and my but he's go back and

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<v Speaker 5>forth with the whole Joan Lebron debate. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>think he's one of the probably the greatest. And then

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Brady is right there. Tom Brady just brings a

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<v Speaker 5>whole whole different aspect to a team, which I assume

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<v Speaker 5>Lebron does the same thing. It's just Tom Brady just

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<v Speaker 5>brings that you don't want to mess up around him,

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want to be that guy. He just elevates

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<v Speaker 5>your team to a whole another level.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you like to spend your money on golf?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably? I mean, yeah, golf, hunting every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 5>do a couple of things with that, but uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we just recently bought a farm, so that's where a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of it will be going.

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<v Speaker 1>Very nice. Do you have a bucket list activity that

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to do in an off season?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say any kind of trip to Montana, Wyoming.

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<v Speaker 5>I think somewhere in Canada like a nice It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be off season doesn't really go with my hunting seasons

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<v Speaker 5>that I like, so, but anything to do with just

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<v Speaker 5>traveling getting to see those those areas. My brother went

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<v Speaker 5>elk hunting in Montana, or he went elk hunting in

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<v Speaker 5>Wyoming and just talked about how beautiful it was there,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I think visiting those places is something that

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<v Speaker 5>I look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>Final question for Tanner Hudson, if you could meet anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in history, actor, athlete, statesman, whoever it might be. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would that person be, So.

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<v Speaker 5>It wouldn't be anybody famous. I would like to meet

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<v Speaker 5>my wife's dad. Yeah, he passed away when she was young.

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<v Speaker 5>And to be able to hear from him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I get stories from her mom, and you know those

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<v Speaker 5>are fun to hear, but to be to hear the

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<v Speaker 5>stories that she tells me about him from him, I

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<v Speaker 5>think would be something really special.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great heartfelt answer, Tanner Hudson. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your time. Best of luck this season. Percent that's going

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