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Speaker 2: Bubble and Squeak, cooking every move over from the night. People. Hey,

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Speaker 2: that experience? Like being on a set for the first.

434
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: Time is incredible, I am. I mean every time I

435
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: step on a set, it's amazing. But I don't think

436
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: anything can really top the first time that you get

437
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: to go and you're sitting in the hair and makeup

438
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: chair and you're handed your scene for the day, and

439
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: you know, you get to talk to the director, you

440
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: get to talk to the actor who you've been watching

441
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: on television, Like there's just something so exciting about that.

442
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: I was nervous, so nervous, and I even now sometimes

443
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: when I watch that scene back, like, oh goodness, girl,

444
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: loosen up. Read a little bit, but you know, all

445
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: in time, it was. It was a really fun day.

446
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: I was just so happy, and I remember calling my

447
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: parents and I was like, I'm gonna be on TEAMV.

448
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: It was so exciting.

449
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: But you were you were nervous, Yeah, I was.

450
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I was nervous. I was really nervous.

451
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: How many days did you have that first time?

452
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: I was there for five hours? It was not days.

453
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: A scene where we were sitting at a table, so

454
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: they did one over the shoulder, another over the shoulder,

455
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: wid at a medium. They called it okay.

456
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: You end up working on some other shows there in

457
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: New York, Bull for one, The Good Fight. Do you

458
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: do you feel like you start gaining confidence with these

459
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: guest stars, you start feeling more comfortable, or is every

460
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: time you still get nervous.

461
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I find new reasons to get nervous

462
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: every time. It's different nerves. But when I was on

463
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: The Good Fight, I was My scene was with Audrey

464
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: McDonald and then Christine Baranski's sitting right across the table

465
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: from us, and I have to be talking about my

466
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: dead friend and I'm just in the presence of legends,

467
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: trying to sitting on a stand in a courtroom, so

468
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: everyone's just staring at me, and I'm staring at Audre

469
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: McDonald and she smelled so good and I just wanted

470
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: her to come stand next to me, and so that

471
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: made me nervous, but that was also a really it

472
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: ended up being a really fun day and Bull. I

473
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: was nervous because it was my first day, my first

474
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: job where I was on for multiple days. So I

475
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: was on Bull for I think ten days, So I

476
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: was nervous about that, you know, building a character, an

477
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: arc or something like that. But all of the previous

478
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: experiences inform the next one, which is great, But it

479
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm not going to be nervous every time

480
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I step onto a set, because it's always something new

481
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: to be nervous about.

482
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you did a lot. I mean I

483
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: have seven here listed in front of me. I won't

484
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: go through all the titles, but a lot of short

485
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: films gaining experience. Now is this are these projects that

486
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: you're doing with some of your NYU cohorts. You guys

487
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: are putting stuff together, just trying to work there.

488
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of them were NYU friends that we were,

489
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, working with. Some were casting calls that I

490
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: answered in college just for other universities looking for actors.

491
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: One of my teachers had a friend who was making

492
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: a production who needed somebody and recommended me. And oh

493
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I also spent a summer at Williamstown Theater Festival.

494
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, me.

495
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Eighteen and I was an apprentice there, and I'd say

496
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: second to NYU, if not even on par with NYU

497
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: as far as networking and meeting people, that was really great.

498
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: So a lot of those short films came out of

499
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: collaboration with people from there. You know, you just pick

500
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: up people along the way, and especially with social media

501
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: now you can just get connected so easily. Right, So

502
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: people are always looking for somebody to be in their

503
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: short film, and if you have the patience to do it,

504
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: they'll let you do it.

505
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: Right. At this point, you're auditioning, trying to find work,

506
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: working some in the theater. As you mentioned before, how

507
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: do you meet the folks on the other Black Girl?

508
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: So, yes, I was coming out of When was that

509
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: so twenty twenty one? Is that twenty twenty one? Yes,

510
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, the top of twenty to twenty one.

511
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming off of like a year nothing. I had

512
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: signed with my agent in February twenty twenty, and then

513
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: we all know what happens two weeks.

514
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Later, right right, was just there was great timing.

515
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Great timing. I yeah, fresh out of school. I was like,

516
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this by the whole, nothing, nothing, silence.

517
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: So top of between twenty one, I think one of

518
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: my first auditions is I get something in my inbox

519
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: says like untitled Insidious project, and I didn't know what

520
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: that meant, so I was like, I'm just gonna submit.

521
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I get a call back, and then I find out

522
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: it's the Insidious franchise, like the horror movies, and I'm like,

523
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I actually love these. So I end

524
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: up booking that, and I while I'm on set for that,

525
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: I get this audition for the show called The Other

526
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: Black Girl. At this point, I'm sleeping on my friend's

527
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: couch underneath his bookshelf, and on his bookshelf is The

528
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Other Black Girl. And so I novel the novel the book.

529
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at my computer and I said, I've

530
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: seen that before, and I just turn around and grabbed

531
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: the book and start reading. And I was like, Okay,

532
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: well great, but I'm also trying to learn my lines

533
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: for this movie I'm doing, so I'm not really that focused.

534
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: So I when it comes time for my audition, I'm

535
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: on set for Insidious, I have to talk to the

536
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: director before Patrick Wilson. He was so lovely for this.

537
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: He gave me like an extra long lunch break and

538
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: he moved around the schedule so I could do this

539
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: zoom audition for the other Black Girl. And it was

540
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: great because I was already in hair makeup and I

541
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: was like, I feel fabulous, and so that was how

542
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I got my first audition for that, and I auditioned

543
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: for Nella and then when they called me back, they

544
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: wanted me to read for Hazel. So I read for

545
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Hazel and then they said, actually, you know, we kind

546
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: of feel like you fall in between these two characters

547
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: too much, so we're going to pass. And I was

548
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: pretty disappointed because I was like, I kind of feel

549
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: like I could do this. I feel like I get

550
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: this person character. But you know what happens. They passed,

551
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: and then three weeks later they called me back and

552
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: they said, we actually want to have you back in

553
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: for Nola. And at that point it just goes like

554
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: rapid fire. It's pretty much a call a week or

555
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: two calls a week or something like that. But it

556
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: ended up being like a July to October process.

557
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: How many times did you read for them?

558
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: Yes?

559
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: How many times?

560
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to say. I did my Nella,

561
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: I did my Hazel. I think I did one more

562
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: Nella after that, and then I did kind of like

563
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: a bracket style chemistry read which took three hours, and

564
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: then I did two chemistry reads with Ashley, who ended

565
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: up playing Hazel. And then once I got the role,

566
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I did chemistry reads with all the Owens, all the Malaikahs.

567
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: So I was on the phone with these people a lot.

568
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't.

569
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Even remember point I had the job. I was just like,

570
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: I hope there's a job at the end of this.

571
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: Wow. I had no idea.

572
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: It was quite the process. Yes, So also different countries.

573
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: I was traveling. I was on vacation, so I was

574
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: on a road trip on in a van in Iceland

575
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: when I had my first chemistry read and they said

576
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: we want to see you tomorrow. So I had to

577
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: get on my phone and find the nearest hotel on

578
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: the Icelandic like country side where the whole country's population

579
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: is like two hundred and fifty thousand people found one

580
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: room with the strongest WiFi in Iceland. I still think

581
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: about that hotel.

582
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

583
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: And I did. I did my my reads in there.

584
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: My friend sat in the van. Wow, it was chaos.

585
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Did you when you when you were when

586
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: you were sleeping under the bookshelf and you turned around

587
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: and you picked up the book. Did you respond to

588
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: the book? I mean, I know you wanted a job

589
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: and spoiler alert, it's the lead, But did you respond

590
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: did you respond to the to the to the book?

591
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: Was there? Yes? Yeah?

592
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean when I picked up the book, I read

593
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: the back or the inside cover wherever the synopsis was,

594
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: and I said, this sounds really, really good. And then

595
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: I read the first couple of chapters. And then they

596
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: had also sent me the pilot, so I read the

597
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: pilot script and between I did all of that at

598
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: the same time. So between all of that, I was

599
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: already pretty hooked. I really felt like I knew who

600
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: Nella was and I identified with a lot of the

601
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: things that I was reading about her. And I didn't

602
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: finish the book until the end of the audition process.

603
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I kind of didn't want to know how it ended,

604
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: but I was as they were sending me scripts, I

605
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: was reading little bits of the book and just kind

606
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: of getting more and more interested. And since it's it's

607
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily mystery, but thriller. The not knowing, I

608
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: thought was helping me. I Wela doesn't know what's happening

609
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: to her, so I shouldn't know what's happening either.

610
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 2: That's very That's very interesting and astute of you. I think.

611
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: By the way, the other black Girl New York Times

612
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: best selling book, Rave Book made into a series. Now,

613
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: did you have any connection with Rashida Jones.

614
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Besides being a lifelong fan. Nope. I saw her name

615
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: and I was I called my dad had Jones. That's

616
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: what it says. Unless there's another one.

617
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea. They put you guys through

618
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: the ringer.

619
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was you know, and we all got there

620
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: and I was talking to everybody else, and Ashley had

621
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: a similar experience. I think they wanted to get it

622
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: right that those two relationship, I understand, you know, it

623
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: was you could find one but maybe didn't have great

624
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: chemistry with the other. And they made Ashley and I. I

625
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: think Ashley and I tested together two or three times

626
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: and it took hours, but nobody was trying to be

627
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: aloof about it. At one point, Todd, our producing director,

628
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: straight up set He's like, we really like you too,

629
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: and we really like you two together, so we're just

630
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: going to give you some stuff to heighten it so

631
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: we can send it off to the people at Hulu

632
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: and they'll love you as much as we do. And

633
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I appreciated that transparency.

634
00:39:41,120 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. You get this job, your first obviously

635
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: central leading role of a big series. Now, is there

636
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: nerves from you in beginning to work on the show.

637
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nerves. It's a whole new thing to be

638
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: nervous about.

639
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

640
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: I I don't even know how to tell you the

641
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: nerves I was experiencing. But yes, lead of a show

642
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: that was a very well liked book, that's going to

643
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: be on a very popular streaming platform. And everyone kept

644
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: reminding me that, like, this is so cool. You're going

645
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: to be the lead of a hula show. You've never

646
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: done that before.

647
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, yeah, I know that.

648
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: So you know, I was really happy that we got

649
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: to go down a few weeks before we started shooting,

650
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: so we got to talk to everybody, We got to

651
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: do a few rehearsals, which I think is pretty rare

652
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: in the space, and had got to have a relationship

653
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: with the people we'd be spending the next four months

654
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: with ahead of time. And because the show moved so quickly,

655
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: we shot ten episodes in under four months, and we

656
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: were block shooting, so we were shooting multiple episodes at

657
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: the same time. The timeline was all messed up. We're

658
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: having different directors come in, we're having new actors join us. Honestly,

659
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: all that was going on really didn't give me enough

660
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: time to be nervous after a while, which I really appreciated.

661
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: We were just so busy and everyone there cared about

662
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: what we were making so much, and I was actually

663
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: just having so much fun because we had so many

664
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: amazing comedians on set and funny people that the whole

665
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: energy vibe was light, even though we were doing this

666
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: pretty herculean thing.

667
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because you know, there are

668
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: you and Ashley and a lot of the other actors

669
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: who well, primarily one young with less experience, and then

670
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: you know you have people coming in like Eric McCormick

671
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: and Bellamy Young. Well, I was there. I was there

672
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: for a little bit, but I really enjoyed my work

673
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: with you. I thought you were fantastic to work with

674
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: and so open and receptive to Shenanigans that I would

675
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: try to.

676
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate it with you. I appreciated it because that

677
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: was still kind of early on in our process. So

678
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: every curveball took me out of my own head a

679
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: little bit. And I remember specifically that that that we

680
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: were doing where you know, Nella's fighting tooth and nail

681
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: through an apology and we got really I don't I

682
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: don't know what you and Dodd talked about, but every

683
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: take was different and I appreciated it. It was It

684
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: was great. But yes, being the youngest, the greenest on

685
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: set was daunting until I realized nobody else cared. They

686
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: they were They just wanted us all to do a

687
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: good job. Nobody was whispering, she's so young, this is

688
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: her first big job. They were like, we'd all hang

689
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: out in the actors holding and joke around and everybody

690
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: was just there was no hierarchy of of uh, you know,

691
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: status or anything. We were all chilling together and it

692
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: was really nice.

693
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it certainly helps that you're really good. No,

694
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest about it, because if I mean,

695
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: if you were bad, yeah, there would have there would

696
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: have been tons of whisky. Yeah, yeah, there would have been,

697
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: especially from that McCormick guy. He is yeah, he is evil.

698
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: Love he can be he can be so evil. So

699
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: the show out in September.

700
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of sixty days, six days ago.

701
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: Today, sixty days ago today.

702
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: Well, maybe not six days, two months.

703
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: Months, yeah, September, that's right, September thirteenth. We how did

704
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: let me tell you something. I felt horribly for you

705
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: and for Ashley, because I I just felt like this

706
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: was not fair to the two of you. Obviously, spoiler

707
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: alert for those of you listening. The show comes out

708
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: and we're in the middle of the first actor strike

709
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: in over fifty years. That's right, the last actor strike.

710
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan was president of the Union, not of the

711
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: United States. So it's over fifty years ago since the

712
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: last strike. And so they're making up rules as we

713
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: go along because there's no playbook to what happens, and

714
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: we're told that we cannot promote shows that that is

715
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: part of our job, which it is, is to promote shows,

716
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: and we were on strike, so that is not something

717
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: we were to do. And let me tell you, I

718
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: felt horribly for you and for Ashley because your work

719
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: is so strong and the material is so good. The

720
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: end product, which I watched by myself without talking about

721
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: it either, was so strong that I felt terribly for

722
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: you that you were not able to go through the

723
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: experience and get the attention that you deserved to get

724
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: for the work that you did. Was that difficult for

725
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: you for it to come out and not be able

726
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: to talk about it.

727
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be lying if I said it wasn't difficult.

728
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: Don't lie.

729
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it was such a conplex amalgamation of conflicting emotions.

730
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: It was just, you know, highs and lows every day.

731
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: I think that the actor strike was announced on June

732
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: twelfth or July twelfth, and our show, the Hollywood Reporter

733
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: announced our show's release date, so we were almost exactly

734
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: in line with the actors strike. So we had been

735
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: told in advance, you know, keep your summer open. We

736
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: have this big press rollout. We had talks about maybe

737
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: going up to Tiff and you know, they wanted to

738
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: do the talk show circuits and they wanted to do

739
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: all this, and it was so exciting also because you know,

740
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: this was my first anything of the size, and then

741
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: to learn in one day that none of that was

742
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: going to be happening, and that they were also going

743
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: to release the show without the promo and not bump

744
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: the release date we had. Yeah, that day was tough.

745
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: That that that learning that was like, oh no, the

746
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: next six months of my life that I've kind of

747
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: cleared out for this big thing is just not going

748
00:47:54,040 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: to happen anymore. But the show did still come out,

749
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: and though we were not allowed to talk about it

750
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: publicly or promote it publicly or post about it, it

751
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: really kind of personalized this experience for me because I

752
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: still heard from a lot of people. I still got

753
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: texts and calls and messages from folks I haven't heard

754
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: from in years, or I don't even know directly, and

755
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 1: they'd be sending me random billboards from Cincinnati or Los

756
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: Angeles or Chicago or Philadelphia. People from different countries are

757
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: reaching out to me saying they've watched the show, and

758
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 1: it's given me a little bit more time to read

759
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: those messages and have conversations with the people in my

760
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: life who were happy for me and have been following

761
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: this accomplishment. And at the end of the day, as

762
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: fun as all that stuff would have been, you can't

763
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: really miss what you never had. I am excited for

764
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: whatever project will allow me to have those type of experiences,

765
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: but I am no less proud of the work that

766
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: we did on this show. I'm glad that SAG was

767
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: able to get a deal that they feel is fair

768
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: so that next time we can go all out. But yeah,

769
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was a lot of conflicting

770
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: emotions over the past couple of months, but ultimately ruled

771
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: by gratitude.

772
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Good for you. That's uh, it's it's very mature. And look,

773
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: let me be let me, let me be honest with you.

774
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: That stuff isn't fun. It's really not it's really not funk.

775
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds it's way it sounds way better

776
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: than it is. But that being said, I was really

777
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: upset for particularly for the two of you now, because

778
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: you deserved to get that attention and I wanted. I mean, look,

779
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: the point of all of that promotion, fun or not,

780
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: is to get people to watch and so you know. Look,

781
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: it's part of what the fight was about, is not

782
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: having information about the streaming. I have no idea. I

783
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: will tell you this, which means absolutely nothing. But I

784
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: was set by my publicist the day that the trailer

785
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: came out, which said, you know, hey, here's the trailer

786
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: of your new show. Don't tweet about it, don't talk

787
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 2: about it, don't share it with anybody. But just what

788
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: was it for your not for your information, but I

789
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: don't know, for your consciousness. I don't know. They said

790
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: the trailer, and I clicked on it, and I showed

791
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: it to someone the next day. So I clicked on

792
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: it the next day and there were three or four

793
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: million views of this thing within twenty four hours.

794
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it got traction.

795
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: That got subtraction. Now I don't know if people watch

796
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: the show or not, but I hope to God that

797
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: they did. Now for those of you who haven't seen

798
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: the other Black Girl one, do because I mean, jesus,

799
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm in it. But too more importantly, Sinclair is in it.

800
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: I was there through I think episode five. So we're

801
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: not going to give spoilers away here because I really

802
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: want people to go and watch the show. But I

803
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: do want to mention something because I was gone at

804
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: five there was a unscheduled and by the way, who

805
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: knows if we're allowed to talk about this, but I

806
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: don't really care. There was an unse scheduled hiatus that

807
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: happened during the course of the show because of quote

808
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: wanting to go in a slightly different direction at the

809
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: end of the series. Was this done with the thought

810
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 2: of bringing it back for season two.

811
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: I wish people would include me in those conversations. I

812
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: have to imagine, you know, like, what's the plan? I was.

813
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: No, I it's no, it's more from me watching it.

814
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: It ends differently it had than what had been when

815
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: I was there. It ended differently than what it was

816
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: explained to how it was explained to me.

817
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: We were ending You really see, I didn't. I did

818
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: not ask for the ending. I did not want to

819
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: know what the ending was, similar to like reading the book,

820
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: so I didn't figure out how they were going to

821
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: end it until I read the episode ten script. But

822
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: it does feel because it's different than the book.

823
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: So it's different than the book. It's different and that's

824
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: what I mean. No one was filling me. I wasn't

825
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: in high level meetings. It was more conversations about it

826
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: and then when I watched it, because I didn't know

827
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: really what had happened after, you know, I didn't know

828
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: the end of the story from the serious perspective I

829
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: had read the book, and I went, oh, oh, well, yeah, oh.

830
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I felt I felt like, you know, if

831
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: they're taking an extra couple of weeks to go and

832
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: rewrite the ending of a story that already has an end, right,

833
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: then that probably means that they want to do something

834
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: with the story as a whole, I would think, because

835
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's literally a book that could tell you

836
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: how to end it right, But to make a different choice,

837
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: a more left open choice, feels intentional. And obviously nobody

838
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: knew that we were going to release this show into

839
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: the strike, but I would hope that that intention is

840
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: still alive.

841
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: And well, yeah, well I hope so too. Maybe Colin

842
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: will come back and melt down in some other horrific

843
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: way as well. Hope. I so enjoyed your work, and

844
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 2: I enjoyed one. I enjoyed working with you, and two

845
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: to see your journey played out, the complex of your performance,

846
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: the depth of your performance, and the reality of your

847
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: performance was stunning to watch, and you know what I

848
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: told you is true the within I'm gonna be real.

849
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: Within twelve minutes of me getting a text that the

850
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: strike was over, I emailed I couldn't find your number,

851
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: and I emailed Jordan and Gus and said, I need

852
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: to get a hold of Sinclair because.

853
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: They've reached out, like the same day.

854
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: Because I wanted to have you on. I wanted to

855
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: talk to you about you and your experience and and

856
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: the show because it's a show that deserves to be seen,

857
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: and I just I wish it all of the best,

858
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: and I hope we get to do it again sometimes.

859
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I do too. It was truly the

860
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: most fun I've ever had on a job and exactly

861
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: why I do this and really affirming, and to do

862
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: that again would be such a blessing.

863
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: Awesome. Congratulations. I'm I'm happy to hear you just went

864
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: back and did something in the theater as well. One

865
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: of these one of these days, one of these days,

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Speaker 2: I'll follow you and Eric back. Did you see his show?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? We had three the other Black Girl members on

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Speaker 1: Broadway this fall, and I went to opening night of

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Speaker 1: all of them. Cheered my pants off. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the theater was calling, you know. Yeah, returning it

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Speaker 1: was fun. I did see Eric. He's hilarious. I didn't

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Speaker 1: expect anything less like truly just drove the whole show

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Speaker 1: with his comedic timing. It was phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: He's the best. Oh, such a good time. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming on and taking the time to talk to me.

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Speaker 2: Good luck and everybody out there. I'm serious, go and

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Speaker 2: watch on the aforementioned Hulu The Other Black Girl starring

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Speaker 2: Sinclair Daniel. I promise you this, you won't be disappointed.

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Speaker 2: You won't be disappointed. Thanks Sinclair.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Sinclair. So great to have you on today. It was

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Speaker 2: such a pleasure to talk to you, a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: work with you. I'm so happy that I could finally

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Speaker 2: talk about this show that I do, really, really love,

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Speaker 2: and truly you're a big part of why I love

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Speaker 2: it so much. If you haven't already, go watch The

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Speaker 2: Other Black Girl streaming on Hulu. You're gonna love Sinclair.

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Speaker 2: You'll get a glimpse of me as well. You probably

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Speaker 2: forgot what I look like because all you do is

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Speaker 2: hear my voice now, but check it out. Yeah, We're back, Baby,

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Speaker 2: We're back. I will see you next week. Off the

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Speaker 2: Beat is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner,

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Speaker 2: alongside our executive producer Ling Lee. Our senior producer is

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Speaker 2: Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and

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Speaker 2: Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary, and

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Speaker 2: our intern is Ali Amir Saheed. Our theme song Bubble

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Speaker 2: and Squeak, performed by the one and only Creed Bratton,