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Speaker 1: at the Star. Glad you're with us as we continue
Speaker 1: looking back to the twenty to seventeen win the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys over the Los Angeles Chargers, and then we start
Speaker 1: looking ahead a little bit, peaking forward to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Will have some fan calls later on in the show
Speaker 1: and some tweets to answer as well. Professional football analyst
Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, a resident Super Bowl champion. Isaiah standback,
Speaker 1: We've got the Great Cowboys inside or Rob Phillips Island.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people in periscope right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder why I think it was a cow bite yesterday?
Speaker 1: You think that's what it was. It was the cowboy, man.
Speaker 1: I think it was the smelliest thing first of all.
Speaker 1: Cow bite almost I'm telling you, man, he almost took
Speaker 1: me out. I couldn't believe. It was better than the
Speaker 1: on air. That's the craziest part after the show, I guarantee.
Speaker 1: So if you go back and watch yesterday's show, the
Speaker 1: tail end of it, there's a cow bite. You can
Speaker 1: hear Rob calling Aaron for the cow bite. You can
Speaker 1: see the cow bout bite on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: He'd actually do it, but he did it. He did it,
Speaker 1: and it was hilarious on air. But I guarantee we
Speaker 1: sat here and laughed for at least ten minutes, just
Speaker 1: almost falling against the wall laughing. It was awesome. So
Speaker 1: go check it out if you haven't already. It was
Speaker 1: a good show yesterday wrapping up the Cowboys and the Chargers.
Speaker 1: But good game, Terrence Steele, Good job, good job, Terence. Terreen.
Speaker 1: Steele got some praise from Jerry Jones on a one
Speaker 1: on five three The Fan this Morning and Jerry hit
Speaker 1: on a couple extra topics as well. Rob, did you
Speaker 1: get a chance to listen, Yeah, I caught most of it.
Speaker 1: He went early today, he did. Yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: meeting today apparently, so I caught most of it. He
Speaker 1: covered some a lot of topics from an injury standpoint.
Speaker 1: We don't know yet about Amari Cooper for this next game,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like they're hopeful he's got some bruise
Speaker 1: ribs that happened. He did take a shot, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that last catch twelve yard catch on the last drive.
Speaker 1: But Mike McCarthy reference, maybe it's something that he was
Speaker 1: killing you with a little bit, maybe from week one.
Speaker 1: So we'll see you on there. And they're optimism stick
Speaker 1: that Randy Gregory will be cleared and back by tomorrow
Speaker 1: from the COVID list. So those were the Newsy items.
Speaker 1: A couple of news man. You got to listen to
Speaker 1: those Tuesday interviews because you get a lot of gems
Speaker 1: in there. You know, you don't you would expect for
Speaker 1: it if it come from coach Mike McCarthy, But Jerry
Speaker 1: is laying down some info. So I've always got my
Speaker 1: ear to the speaker. We had breaking news last week. Yes,
Speaker 1: on the right tackle situation. Yeah, Jerry came straight out
Speaker 1: and said, hey, Ter Steals gonna be the starter at
Speaker 1: right tackle, and all of us were like, wait what
Speaker 1: And then the coaching staff and even Stephen were like, oh,
Speaker 1: tap the brakes, Tap the brakes, and then ultimately ended
Speaker 1: up being the decision that was made. He also hit
Speaker 1: today on John Fossil and the decision to bring the
Speaker 1: house on the punting unit and what ended up being
Speaker 1: the roughing the kicker penalty that kept the drive alive
Speaker 1: for the Chargers in that the twenty to seventeen win. Now,
Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance to hit on special teams
Speaker 1: a whole lot yesterday because we were kind of bouncing
Speaker 1: around on offense and on defense. So Isaiah, I want
Speaker 1: to bring this to your attention because I mean, you're
Speaker 1: the special teams guy. I feel like, on this show,
Speaker 1: what did you think about the decision that John Fossil
Speaker 1: made to bring the house and try and go after
Speaker 1: this punt and it ultimately backfire and bring the house.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: feel any type of way about you bringing the house.
Speaker 1: You have a responsibility as a player to make the
Speaker 1: judgment call whether or not you can make the block
Speaker 1: or not, and you have to have that I don't
Speaker 1: know that resistance to really pull off right, even though
Speaker 1: it's like I might be close, But if I don't
Speaker 1: know for sure that I can get this thing, I
Speaker 1: have to pull off because I know the consequence the
Speaker 1: repercussions of me not getting it is a rough in
Speaker 1: the passer, I mean a rough and a kicker, which
Speaker 1: results in automatic first down, which means in my defense
Speaker 1: is now back out here and we don't get the
Speaker 1: ball on offense. So call them boys. If I was
Speaker 1: a special team's coordinator and I was able to rush
Speaker 1: the kick, rush the punter every time, and know that
Speaker 1: my guys, my hold up guys can still take care
Speaker 1: of their business on the outside, giving our return around
Speaker 1: opportunity to get a good return. I'm bringing the house
Speaker 1: every single time. But typically that's not the case. So
Speaker 1: typically you hold off, you go to hold up, which
Speaker 1: means you rush, you get about three steps off the ball,
Speaker 1: you grab your guy, you hold them, and you block
Speaker 1: them to the direction that you need to for their
Speaker 1: particular return, and you usually don't get a good hold
Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage when you're rushing right,
Speaker 1: because usually they you're now attacking them exactly, they shed you,
Speaker 1: they throw you, and now they're off running down going
Speaker 1: to cover your returner, and you don't get a chance
Speaker 1: to block them. So if you have a chance to
Speaker 1: hold your guys up, hold them up, and when you
Speaker 1: take your shots like that, go get it. They just
Speaker 1: got to make a smart decision. That's on the individual
Speaker 1: not to rough the kicker. Now, I believe it was
Speaker 1: fourth and twenty in that situation. And but why do
Speaker 1: you think that that decision has been met with so
Speaker 1: much resistance, especially with when when when coach Fossil is saying, look,
Speaker 1: we studied the tape, we saw tendencies, they lined up
Speaker 1: in the favorable lineup, and we came after it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a coach's answer. But what
Speaker 1: he's basically saying is we saw an opportunity and we
Speaker 1: took it. I can tell you this as a punt
Speaker 1: on a punt return team, you don't want to hold up.
Speaker 1: You really don't. You really don't. I don't care who
Speaker 1: you put back there. I don't care if you put
Speaker 1: Cordell Patterson back there. I don't care if you put
Speaker 1: who else that from Chicago? Who it was a return man,
Speaker 1: Devin Hester. Devin Hester's back there. I don't care who's
Speaker 1: back there. You want to go get that ball like
Speaker 1: you're out there, because you're you have the ability to
Speaker 1: go out there and get the ball. Now, everybody can
Speaker 1: hold up their guys, yippie right and get a good block.
Speaker 1: You hope that you take care of your assignment and
Speaker 1: get your return or a return. But if you can
Speaker 1: rush the punter and get a good hold up on
Speaker 1: the outside, you give your return or a chance to
Speaker 1: get to make a play. So that is not on fossil.
Speaker 1: Go get the dog on ball. Send them every time.
Speaker 1: As long as we don't rougher putter, nobody complains about it.
Speaker 1: When the punter's not roughed, nobody. Everybody likes to see it.
Speaker 1: Everybody likes to see the guy go by and goes,
Speaker 1: oh right, and it guess what, Then you forget about
Speaker 1: the fact that we that we rushed the punter at
Speaker 1: that time, right, But there's always a problem when you
Speaker 1: hit him. And again, that's not his problem, that's the
Speaker 1: other guy's problem. And then the same thing can happen
Speaker 1: even if it was called a hold up. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: if your responsibility rob people say, hey, go hold up.
Speaker 1: Heckma decides to go all the way to the outside
Speaker 1: and you got a free runt to a punter. You
Speaker 1: think you're just gonna stand there. No, you're going from
Speaker 1: the dog on ball. You're going to his foot, and
Speaker 1: you just hope that you get it. John Fossil appealed
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys nation day. He said he basically said
Speaker 1: he did it for them. He said, I think Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans aren't the play it safe type, so I was
Speaker 1: gonna give them what they wanted come after their ass
Speaker 1: on the punt rush. So I hope they're happy with it.
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't know if they're happy with
Speaker 1: it or not. I don't know. I feel like it
Speaker 1: didn't work, so yeah, I feel like it just drew
Speaker 1: more attention to the fact that it didn't work more
Speaker 1: than anything. Him answering the question that direction, and you
Speaker 1: like you, Yeah, it's all it's stacking it on, stacking
Speaker 1: it on each other. And that's kind of where I
Speaker 1: think that some of the criticism came later yesterday and
Speaker 1: then into today. I think and heck, you just asked.
Speaker 1: I think the criticism comes from he's been aggressive from
Speaker 1: the moment he got here, and yeah, and he has
Speaker 1: a history of doing that and a lot of times
Speaker 1: in his career it's worked a lot of times. So
Speaker 1: far in the last two years, it has not worked
Speaker 1: at all, you know. And this is the second game
Speaker 1: in a row they've they've played two games this year
Speaker 1: this twice. Now, right before halftime, they make an aggressive decision,
Speaker 1: you know, they kick a field goal try sixty yards
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady waiting at midfield, and it didn't cost
Speaker 1: him anything. There they got they got, you know, they
Speaker 1: could be fortunate there. They were fortunate this time that
Speaker 1: Chargers take over and miss a forty four yard field
Speaker 1: goal right before halftime in a close game that would
Speaker 1: have tied the game. So I'm just saying, I mean,
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman always says in a lot of different areas
Speaker 1: of life, scared money don't make money, right, So that's
Speaker 1: his philosophy. But when it doesn't work, that's when people
Speaker 1: jump all over it, especially in tight games where I mean,
Speaker 1: now they've they've played two games in a row where
Speaker 1: it comes down to the last play a game it's
Speaker 1: not his fault. There's somebody rushing on every punt block.
Speaker 1: On every punt to return, somebody's rushing right. But now
Speaker 1: there might be half the line that has hold up,
Speaker 1: but the other half the line is rushing right. Because
Speaker 1: if you if you rush the ball, so say there's
Speaker 1: a return right right, and how you're on the left side.
Speaker 1: Your job on the left side is to go after
Speaker 1: the dog on ball, go try to block it. But
Speaker 1: guess so, if you don't block it, guess what you do.
Speaker 1: You continue all the way around, and you come around
Speaker 1: and you form the wall on the other side, and
Speaker 1: now you're a part of the wall, right. But your
Speaker 1: initial job was to do what go after the dog
Speaker 1: on punp block right, So every tog on every player,
Speaker 1: there's a punt block called right, but it's just not
Speaker 1: the whole team. And people need to understand you don't
Speaker 1: need your return team out there to fair catch. Those
Speaker 1: guys can sit on the sideline and the punter could
Speaker 1: dictate whether or not it's a fair catch or not.
Speaker 1: This guy can sky the ball six six seconds in
Speaker 1: the air and guess what your punt return is gonna do?
Speaker 1: Fair catch? So you don't need your whole return team
Speaker 1: out there to force a fair catch. Go out there
Speaker 1: and be aggressive and get the ball. That's what those
Speaker 1: guys jobs are. That's why you have those guys, those
Speaker 1: special teamers, those core guys out there to go after
Speaker 1: it and get after the punter. And I think what
Speaker 1: people are on Bones about is situational awareness. When you
Speaker 1: talk about kicking a sixty yard field go right before
Speaker 1: half and leaving clock time on the clock, this situation, again,
Speaker 1: people are looking at it as a situational thing, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the big The thing that people complain
Speaker 1: about the most about Mike McCarthy and Bones Fossil together
Speaker 1: is that they don't have that situational awareness always that
Speaker 1: looks like they're doing what's best for the team, even
Speaker 1: going all the way down to clock management at the
Speaker 1: end of the at the end of the game, we
Speaker 1: didn't really touch on that. We didn't touch on it.
Speaker 1: And again it's ifs maybe's whatever. It didn't happen, it
Speaker 1: didn't cost us. We won the game. But at the
Speaker 1: same no, no, But that's that's exactly where I'm going
Speaker 1: with this. It's like, it's not costing us right now,
Speaker 1: but we've seen several situations before this where it has
Speaker 1: cost us. And we've looked at Mike McCarthy's coaching history
Speaker 1: where situational awareness is not as acute as it would
Speaker 1: be with some of these other coaches that we're looking at.
Speaker 1: In the least, this is a compounded problem. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's been a look there, Yeah, there's been situations
Speaker 1: that have not worked. I don't blame them for that.
Speaker 1: Whatever happened at the end of the game, because talking
Speaker 1: to people that were there, that clock thing was an issue.
Speaker 1: It did go out, and I know Rex Ryan was
Speaker 1: saying he was Mike was lying in all this note
Speaker 1: that's that's the wrong person. Even reference like that. You
Speaker 1: serve the web and you find stuff and it's like
Speaker 1: that that's not true, that's not what happened. But um,
Speaker 1: I think the other thing too is when it comes
Speaker 1: to Bones, it's like, where's Mike's role in these decisions?
Speaker 1: You know? And like, yeah, like I think fans may
Speaker 1: have an opinion that maybe Bones is just going rogue
Speaker 1: on this stuff. They talk about this stuff during the week,
Speaker 1: and like you said, they see something based off their
Speaker 1: game plan or what they've discussed during the week. He's
Speaker 1: got the authority to make the call. It comes to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it comes through. Every special team's call comes through coach McCarthy.
Speaker 1: When those guys, when you want to kick a field goal, right,
Speaker 1: you could be on a forty year online Coach McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you might kick a field goal. Let's do it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sinn field goal unit. Okay, field goal, let's go, let's
Speaker 1: go everything. He's the head coach, he's the CEO out
Speaker 1: there on the sidelines. He's the CEO of this team
Speaker 1: down there, especially if it's a call like that where
Speaker 1: it's coming after a punt, or if it's a special
Speaker 1: teams play, trick play, something like that reverse who cares
Speaker 1: whatever it is that doesn't just stem from a hunch
Speaker 1: on a sideline. That's something that you've talked about for
Speaker 1: and then you've practiced for months at a time by
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah. And the other thing I would say
Speaker 1: is that I do think a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of this made just for fans may go back to
Speaker 1: the fake punt on Thanksgiving of last year. Bad memories.
Speaker 1: It is bad memory. And you know what, as time
Speaker 1: goes by, I have yeah, I know, just checked my timeline.
Speaker 1: Taylor Start called me out on that last week too. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just the messenger, man, just the messenger.
Speaker 1: But you know what, as time goes by, like I
Speaker 1: understand more and more why they did that. At the time,
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never seen anything like that in
Speaker 1: my life. I can't believe they did it. But that
Speaker 1: team was completely wrecked with injuries, and they Mike decided,
Speaker 1: we've got nothing left in the tank. We've got to
Speaker 1: do something to try to go steal this game. But
Speaker 1: I do think that's still in the back of people's
Speaker 1: minds when they try something aggressive, it's like, God, what
Speaker 1: are they doing? Yeah, you know, at some point it's
Speaker 1: going to be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Speaker 1: From a frustration standpoint around Cowboys Nation yesterday, that might
Speaker 1: have been the straw. I don't think it's broken the
Speaker 1: camel's back yet, but it's still adding on. And like
Speaker 1: Isaiah said earlier, it's stacking on. Here's the compounding exactly
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, here's what John Fossil said yesterday in
Speaker 1: his press conference about what he thought of what the
Speaker 1: punt sent or felt like from a coach's standpoint. I
Speaker 1: didn't get who they actually my jersey number because it
Speaker 1: was a train wreck right there at the block spot.
Speaker 1: But what I got on film is that they're number
Speaker 1: forty hook Kamara and pulled them back into the punter.
Speaker 1: And you know, you can make a great case it
Speaker 1: was holding or that the punter hit his own blocker,
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of bodies at that pilot, so
Speaker 1: our goal is to come after him. I don't think
Speaker 1: we could fault the referees for the call that they
Speaker 1: made there. But I wanted to ask you that question
Speaker 1: a little earlier, Isaiah, but did you think, just the
Speaker 1: way that things played out, that that should have been
Speaker 1: a flag on Los Angeles as opposed to Dallas or
Speaker 1: a no call at all. I think you're going is
Speaker 1: going to be called on the rushing team, So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be called on Dallas if that if that punter
Speaker 1: gets hit like that is going unless it is blatantly
Speaker 1: one guy rushing the personal protector who is the further
Speaker 1: the guy who's closest to the punters. His job is
Speaker 1: ensured that the punter is safe, last last line of defense.
Speaker 1: Usually the only time you'll ever see that not called
Speaker 1: is if that one person is taking him on head
Speaker 1: to head and plain side in front of the whole screen,
Speaker 1: and he is running that guy back into the punter
Speaker 1: when he uses when his butt hits the punter and
Speaker 1: knocks the punter over, that won't be called. But what
Speaker 1: you saw the other day, that's going to be called
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent at a time. So do you feel
Speaker 1: like now that this played out the way that it
Speaker 1: did in week two? This will if in the back
Speaker 1: of John Fossil's mind the rest of the year goes on,
Speaker 1: how do you how do how do he end that statement?
Speaker 1: He said, our job is to go after the putter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just sat here and told you that from somebody
Speaker 1: who played ball for six years, and he just told
Speaker 1: you the same thing. They you're you're coming after the punter.
Speaker 1: You're not going out there lining up to say, hey,
Speaker 1: go ahead and kick the ball so he can wave
Speaker 1: at you and catch it in and go, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe an opportunity to steal some fit field position, all
Speaker 1: those things on the table for you. If you don't
Speaker 1: put pressure, you don't get fumbled, you don't get box snaps,
Speaker 1: you don't you know, you don't you don't get any
Speaker 1: of those things. If you just leave him comfortable back there,
Speaker 1: apply pressure because you never know what can happen. Somebody
Speaker 1: can be that personal protector, commiss their assignment. The guys
Speaker 1: in our front line commis their assignment. Somebody can trip,
Speaker 1: somebody can can throw their arm out there, get their
Speaker 1: arm knocked down. There's a whole lot of things that
Speaker 1: can happen that can result in you getting a block
Speaker 1: kick And guess what, it doesn't have to be called
Speaker 1: a punt block and it can still happen. There's many
Speaker 1: of the pump blocks in this league happen off misassignments,
Speaker 1: not off of just all out rushes. You're not wrong.
Speaker 1: Phones also brought up the Steelers Buffalo game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it paid off for Pittsburgh. It did. And because everybody
Speaker 1: said you're up at the time, he said, well, Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: was up at the time by three as well. So
Speaker 1: he's not gonna stop being aggressive. That's what you want.
Speaker 1: He also wants to put it in the back of
Speaker 1: the opponent's mind of we got this to worry about
Speaker 1: potentially on a punt or whatever, field goal whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: whether he does it or not. Why is it that
Speaker 1: that fans I'm not just thinking to whoever. The fans
Speaker 1: are that feel that way want our offense to be aggressive. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they wants to be aggressive on offense. They wanted to
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. They want Coop c
Speaker 1: D and all the boys to get off correct. Yep, Okay,
Speaker 1: we also want our defense to be aggressive. Sure, yes,
Speaker 1: we want to come out there. We want to see
Speaker 1: Parsons coming off the edge. We want to see guys
Speaker 1: blitz in. We want to see guys getting hit. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but special teams just be just be chill. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: one of those fans. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: this more conservative, And the reason why I feel that way,
Speaker 1: it's because your offense. You just mentioned what I was
Speaker 1: just thinking the same way. Gallup, Dak Ezekiel, Elie, Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: Lake Jarwin, Dalton Jolts. The list goes on and on.
Speaker 1: The weapons you have special teams, it's a Zert Kamara, C. J. Goodwin.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with these guys, Darrey and Thompson. The special
Speaker 1: teams personnel is not nearly as strong. I want the
Speaker 1: ball in my best but it never wants them to
Speaker 1: be aggressive. But it never don't want to be conservative
Speaker 1: with my best, but just what that's what That's what
Speaker 1: Chris just said. You know, when it works out, you
Speaker 1: had when you look at other teams where it works out,
Speaker 1: there are no complaints because what it does if flips
Speaker 1: field position, it changes momentum in the game, and that's
Speaker 1: what you want. And we man, we've talked about culture
Speaker 1: so much, and you're all three facets of the game, offense, defense,
Speaker 1: and special teams, and so now you have that. And look,
Speaker 1: I just think that people are trying to draw the
Speaker 1: line between what's risky and what's just downright reckless, and
Speaker 1: that is a blurred line. So so when you start
Speaker 1: talking about fake punts and things of that nature, or
Speaker 1: you know, are you know, surprise on like kicks, those
Speaker 1: are decisions that I can understand people questioning, right, but
Speaker 1: nobody questions whether or not you go after What about
Speaker 1: field goal blocks? Does anybody question those? Every single field
Speaker 1: goal block is called block. Yeah, it's you're coming after
Speaker 1: the kickers. It's the It's up to the person who
Speaker 1: is out there carrying out the assignment to not make
Speaker 1: a bozo decision like that. It's not the coach got
Speaker 1: to come through. It's not the coach man, when we
Speaker 1: start talking about those on site kicks and fake punts,
Speaker 1: I am all the way on board with y'all's that's
Speaker 1: just some of those things don't need to be called.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about punt block, y'all. You're talking about
Speaker 1: punt block. You go after the punter. Your job is
Speaker 1: due that. Otherwise, why do we need to keep guys
Speaker 1: on this team for special teams? Well, you can just
Speaker 1: do safe return, right, I mean just and like Kyle said,
Speaker 1: just put it in their hands and let them Yeah,
Speaker 1: but try to get a score. But you can just
Speaker 1: keep your second stringers on there. Why do you need
Speaker 1: to keep special guys? Why you need course special teamers?
Speaker 1: Then why do you need it? Why do you need
Speaker 1: a special teams coach? Of course, every everybody knows how
Speaker 1: to go out there and run safe. Everybody. Hey, coaches
Speaker 1: know how to put their guys out there. So why
Speaker 1: are we paying profits for a special teams coordinator out there? Yeah? Seriously,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to play it safe, you
Speaker 1: don't need a special teams coordinator. Kickers know how to
Speaker 1: kick at this level. Punters not a punt, Snappers not
Speaker 1: a snap. Guys know how to hold up Why are
Speaker 1: we putting coordinators out there? Why are we keeping guys
Speaker 1: on this team just because of their current contributions they
Speaker 1: have on special teams, because they make a difference when
Speaker 1: you make these calls. Now, all of that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was gold what you're talking about from
Speaker 1: a special team standpoint. Again, I just think that the
Speaker 1: technical analysis of all of this goes back to the
Speaker 1: offense that you have get the get the punt and
Speaker 1: put your offense out on the field. Don't risk having
Speaker 1: your defense have to go back out there. And again,
Speaker 1: it didn't cost us. We won the game, Yakunamatada, But
Speaker 1: we're just talking about there are situations where it has
Speaker 1: cost us and we don't want it to and it
Speaker 1: could cost you in the future. That's kind of where
Speaker 1: the I think the scariness is of it with Cowboys
Speaker 1: Nation in general. And I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: going after the punts. That's not my problem. And honestly,
Speaker 1: if you're aggressive, you're aggressive. I'm not gonna overfall you
Speaker 1: for being aggressive because that's the game of football. But
Speaker 1: if I had the decision, I would rather Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: have the ball towards the end of the half and
Speaker 1: a chance to drive down the field rather than of
Speaker 1: course what happened. Now, Like you said, sometimes it works
Speaker 1: out in your favor and then at that point then
Speaker 1: you feel good. You're about Let me get people a
Speaker 1: different scenario. So people don't don't necessarily analyze the game
Speaker 1: in the same way that I do. Sometimes I'm really
Speaker 1: analytical that way. Every kickoff, easily, based upon the kickers
Speaker 1: in this league, can be kicked out the end zone.
Speaker 1: Every single kick kick kicked the ball off through the
Speaker 1: goal posts. So all the ones that are returnable, that's
Speaker 1: my choice. It's on purpose. It's on purpose. So because
Speaker 1: they want they want the opportunity to back these guys
Speaker 1: in anywhere between the twenty five in the goal in
Speaker 1: the goal line. So are people okay? Are you okay
Speaker 1: with the ball not being kicked out the end zone
Speaker 1: just to have a chance of backing these guys up five, ten,
Speaker 1: fifteen yards because the payoff, because the other side of
Speaker 1: it is they can get a touchdown return. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: nobody talks about that. Well, the different would rather kick
Speaker 1: it out of the back of the fence too, But
Speaker 1: I mean, but people, that is strategy to try to
Speaker 1: pin them back and an angle kick it. But the
Speaker 1: difference there, I guess would be, you know, the worst
Speaker 1: thing that happens, I guess would be a touchdown. But
Speaker 1: but they're still getting the ball at their own five
Speaker 1: or whatever, or you know, at the goal line. That's
Speaker 1: if it works out your way, If it works out
Speaker 1: your way, If it doesn't work out your way, they're
Speaker 1: getting the ball out the thirty, the forty, the fifty.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a touchdown field position, you're giving this field position,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's risk. Teams is all risk. It is.
Speaker 1: But the flip side for this particular situation is they
Speaker 1: got the ball at the Dallas thirty nine with a
Speaker 1: high quarterback. And but my point is that's not fossil's fault.
Speaker 1: That's the player's fault. That's that's that's that's that's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he didn't think I don't think he
Speaker 1: didn't think it was as it's not fossils, it's not
Speaker 1: fossil's fault. I don't disagree with you. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's this isn't at all. I think this is
Speaker 1: might have been this one. I don't I think I
Speaker 1: agree with you in that regard. All right, let's step aside.
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Speaker 1: they did, Yes, they did. It was a Caliber collision,
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, guys. How are y'all doing today? Fantastic?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm glad you didn't take no calls the
Speaker 1: last two days because for like the last two days,
Speaker 1: well actually it's barely Tuesday. So the yesterday all I
Speaker 1: wanted to do was call in talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that we cannot stop a receiver from catching the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm about special teams, but man, we was like we right,
Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, like when it was a fifty
Speaker 1: six yards field goal, like I'm such an optimism but
Speaker 1: my whole family was crossing their fingers and I was
Speaker 1: just like, we're gonna freaking miss this. How could we
Speaker 1: possibly put ourselves in a situation to kick a fifty
Speaker 1: six yards field goal? What gave them, like the trust
Speaker 1: in dirt line to kick a fifty six yards field goal?
Speaker 1: Like what? Like what I just but we was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what, Like I freaking love it? What
Speaker 1: I The one thing I want to talk about the punt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about it earlier. Go back and look at it.
Speaker 1: We tipped the ball. I don't know who it was,
Speaker 1: but we tipped the ball. If you go back look
Speaker 1: at it, even in real time you could barely see it.
Speaker 1: But they slow it down on TV and you see
Speaker 1: that we tipped the ball. Isn't that Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter we run into the kicker, we kept the ball?
Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? And That's all I want to say.
Speaker 1: But if y'all can go review that and and or
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just seeing it because I'm a Cowboys fan,
Speaker 1: and like I mentioned, er, we won the game. But
Speaker 1: that's all I want to say. Guys, I freaking love y'all,
Speaker 1: each and everyone. Y'all like the way y'all mingle together.
Speaker 1: We want it. We won. That's it, sir man. He
Speaker 1: portrays a lot of Cowboys nation. I feel like in
Speaker 1: that regard, it's like, you know what, there's some bad
Speaker 1: things in there. Who cares? We won? It's a dub,
Speaker 1: that's That's awesome. Isaiah, What did you think about what
Speaker 1: he said about the punt there? Yeah, I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go back and watch it. Elista, thanks
Speaker 1: for pointing that out. But yes, by the book, if
Speaker 1: you tip the ball prior to touching the kicker, then
Speaker 1: you then negates the roughing. But that the only thing
Speaker 1: is that's not reviewable, so you had so I may
Speaker 1: it's not called on the field, then then you're out
Speaker 1: of luck. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm sure they're gonna they've
Speaker 1: already asked the league officer to take a look at
Speaker 1: that and think it's too late, and they won, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I think they gotta asked the league
Speaker 1: office to review a lot of stuff. Man, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a rough game. We didn't mention, and somebody
Speaker 1: mentioned us on Twitter after after the show yesterday. A
Speaker 1: lot of flags, man, that was as much of a
Speaker 1: penalty laden game. I don't understand how there were so
Speaker 1: many flags, but yet the game went by so fast
Speaker 1: that was a possible game. It felt like a college
Speaker 1: game in that regard, where there were flags every ten seconds.
Speaker 1: I mean there were twenty flags total combined between the
Speaker 1: two teams, is that right? I didn't see the final
Speaker 1: total twenty. It was eight for the Cowboys, twelve for
Speaker 1: the charge. And I'm still but hurt about Amark Cooper
Speaker 1: not getting the PI. I'm more, I'm more but hurt
Speaker 1: about jam and Curse blanketing Jared Cook and getting that
Speaker 1: interception and getting called that's another one. That's another one
Speaker 1: by far, was the worst call of the night in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Amark Cooper should get that call. Cooper should
Speaker 1: get that call. But man, that was y'all. Know, I
Speaker 1: love y'all and I got y'all's back. But you're not
Speaker 1: getting that call. Which one the Cooper? Cooper? It's not happening.
Speaker 1: Why I am not getting that because Cooper was coming
Speaker 1: out of his break and I know everybody's gonna be
Speaker 1: mad at me because people want to be fan I
Speaker 1: hear it. Understand this. If you go for it on
Speaker 1: fourth down, you better be ready to be physical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're not just gonna have a opportunity to throw
Speaker 1: the ball out there and just hope that you get
Speaker 1: a PI. Read the referees understand the situation. They're gonna
Speaker 1: let both guys be physical. Let them. Now, one guy's
Speaker 1: physical and the other guy's not. That's different, but both
Speaker 1: of them. They were both handsy on that play. At
Speaker 1: the top of the route, Coop did get grabbed the
Speaker 1: top of his route. Also at the top of the route,
Speaker 1: Coop wrapped his hand around his shoulder and pulled him
Speaker 1: back so that he can create separation. They're both hands there,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be no call. I'm still gonna have
Speaker 1: Vice cripts on him. Hear that. I hear. Now, that's interference.
Speaker 1: I hear. You know all you gotta do it. If
Speaker 1: Coop was just to be oh, just take it, then
Speaker 1: guess what, he probably would have got the call. But
Speaker 1: Cooper's like, he's not a pump, so he's like get
Speaker 1: your hands off me, and bit by getting his hands
Speaker 1: off him, by grabbing him as well, and the gates
Speaker 1: the fact that he can get the call. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you how it goes. I think the NBA gets
Speaker 1: it right A lot of times. You don't, do you
Speaker 1: just think you think Kobe would get that Lebron gets
Speaker 1: that call, you know, against a rookie, you give him
Speaker 1: that call. That's dude, this guy's competed at this level
Speaker 1: for a very long time. The top of his route
Speaker 1: a rookie is like completely blank sweatering him like he's
Speaker 1: got his hand around his throat. That's BEI that that
Speaker 1: part I don't like about the NBA. Actually the star calls,
Speaker 1: but but you give him that call. The NBA does
Speaker 1: make up calls, and the NFL really does not do that.
Speaker 1: And not cowboy it's but just as a general football fan,
Speaker 1: I kind of wish they did have a makeup Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris is saying that too. We might have had one
Speaker 1: right back into the game. What was the what was
Speaker 1: the PI or non p I call? I think it
Speaker 1: was the second second second quarter. There's a PI when
Speaker 1: you go back and review the table. Both Curse and
Speaker 1: Cooper were in the second quarter. I but you got
Speaker 1: to give a coop that I disrespect. I hear you.
Speaker 1: But no, not gonna happen. All right, we've got g
Speaker 1: on the line. Gee, what's going on? You're on talking Cowboys, fellas?
Speaker 1: Good morning, coach McCarthy, bones fossil As a As a
Speaker 1: lifelong Cowboys fans, all we want is for our coaches
Speaker 1: not to put us in a position to lose or
Speaker 1: not to put us in a position to fail. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the sentiment as fan base that over
Speaker 1: the course of the last two years, we've seen our
Speaker 1: coaching staff put us in positions where we're in position
Speaker 1: to lose or things just don't make sense. But fellas,
Speaker 1: I have two questions. Since since the bye week, since
Speaker 1: Week ten, bye week last year, our team has a
Speaker 1: plus of twenty one to seven, and the turn in
Speaker 1: the turnover margin we've we've gotten twenty one turnovers to
Speaker 1: seven and the opposing teams we aren't turning those points.
Speaker 1: We think we weren't turning those turnovers into points. How
Speaker 1: do we fix that? And the second question is is
Speaker 1: it's been twenty sixty is guys our offense looks like
Speaker 1: it's ready to roll and it's an elite offense. But
Speaker 1: we know what our limitations are defensively, do we do
Speaker 1: we need our front office to make a drastic move
Speaker 1: or and how what we like for them to be
Speaker 1: aggressive right now and possibly go pick up a free
Speaker 1: agent or call another team for a trade. That's my questions. Guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you, great schel. Thanks guys, Gee, I hope your
Speaker 1: team wins. All I say about that, I love that, Rob.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Should they make a
Speaker 1: drastic move? Uh? Or which let's start with that one,
Speaker 1: and then I want to go back to the points
Speaker 1: off turnovers point. My question would be where, I mean,
Speaker 1: where do they where do you where do you see
Speaker 1: they have to upgrade and and maybe not play a
Speaker 1: young player that they like at this point in the season.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get to mid season, like, okay,
Speaker 1: well his five? Okay, alright, go ahead. My answer to
Speaker 1: that is, Kelvin Joseph's coming back next week. Potentially he's
Speaker 1: he's eligible to come back next week from I R.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be ready for sure, but
Speaker 1: you know that's your second round draft pick, Like that's
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. They were a good team. They were a
Speaker 1: young team, they were getting better as the season went on,
Speaker 1: and they realized that mid season we have to do
Speaker 1: something about wide receiver, and they got Himari Cooper. I
Speaker 1: just you know, take it to mid season. I would say,
Speaker 1: before you really know your roster, know what you have,
Speaker 1: and then say if we need if we're in the hunt,
Speaker 1: which they should be, maybe we make a move then.
Speaker 1: And just to credit gives some credit to the fans.
Speaker 1: They see what's going on on Sundays. They see the
Speaker 1: guys that are out there that are giving up the yards,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out what Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: if I can see this guy giving up these yards,
Speaker 1: you should be able to see it as well. And
Speaker 1: that's and I understand the question. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, look, they're vested in this guy, Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: and his lineup. Last week, he gave up a touchdown.
Speaker 1: We did see some good things from from Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: even though you know he had a hundred yard receiver.
Speaker 1: I think this defense is just making strides. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be the negative guy every week about certain
Speaker 1: things that's happening in our secondary. I just feel as
Speaker 1: though they can get they can obviously start to get better,
Speaker 1: and you see those things change as we get pressure
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. And that game started to change as
Speaker 1: we started to get pressure on the quarterback. And if
Speaker 1: you look at the upcoming schedule for the Cowboys, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rattle off these games Eagles, Panthers, Giants, Patriots, Viking, Broncos, Falcons.
Speaker 1: So that's to the bye week, and then a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks after the bye week. Name me one of
Speaker 1: those games the Cowboys could not win with their current personnel.
Speaker 1: Cowboys certainly could win all of those games with their
Speaker 1: current personnel. Yes, weirdly without arguing now, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they will win all those games. That's almost impossible. That
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. I would love that. However, you
Speaker 1: on paper feel like you could win all those games
Speaker 1: right now with what you've got. So your next real
Speaker 1: benchmark is probably Kansas City. You've got a tough stint
Speaker 1: in November into December. Kansas City, then Las Vegas, almost
Speaker 1: said Oakland, then the Raiders, then you've got the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. That's three straight games that you'll really know
Speaker 1: what your team looks like and how you can make
Speaker 1: a run going into the playoffs. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you make a move before then maybe you make one
Speaker 1: after that or right around that time. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you make one any time previously though. Well, I
Speaker 1: think about what this defense is done with these two
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks that they played against, and I think, hey,
Speaker 1: they had an opportunity to beat Tom Brady and Tampa
Speaker 1: A right, they did what was necessary against the Chargers
Speaker 1: to get a win. I would like to see how
Speaker 1: they measure up. You know, obviously we understand that we're
Speaker 1: getting some guys back healthy and really want to see
Speaker 1: boss man Fat compete. And that's literally back to what
Speaker 1: Isaiah has been talking about about bringing in dan Quinn
Speaker 1: is the culture and everyone compete. I think all of
Speaker 1: these guys are sitting on the edge of their seats
Speaker 1: because they know that they could be replaced by the
Speaker 1: guy that comes up that plays better. We're seeing that
Speaker 1: unfold through injury with Jeron Curse. You know. So look,
Speaker 1: I just think that this defense as they go, as
Speaker 1: dan Quinn just kind of gets a feel for what
Speaker 1: his personnel is, that this thing could you know, look,
Speaker 1: we want middle of the road, just not last place
Speaker 1: you're starting to see that confidence and squae back defensively,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to derail that any sense of
Speaker 1: the imagination. Okay, I said, said a word five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's watching film. I'm going back to that place. We
Speaker 1: can talk about its. Yeah, we're going to talk about Uh,
Speaker 1: let me save it to the last No, no no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to get one more callee. By the way,
Speaker 1: great conversation, Bob is on the line, Bob, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 1: Hey Morner Fellas a great show. Appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 1: hey real quick. And I'm kind of old school, but
Speaker 1: I really think the Cowboys show just how dominant and
Speaker 1: how they can control a game when they run the ball.
Speaker 1: I think this past week with the balance was really outstanding.
Speaker 1: One thing I often wondering, I think Mike McCarthy's done
Speaker 1: it a lot over his years of coaching, is what
Speaker 1: about putting a fullback in the backfield and picking up
Speaker 1: that um initial blocker to help our running backs not
Speaker 1: have to try to move, you know, evade that first blocker.
Speaker 1: That's what you know Moose did for Emmett for so
Speaker 1: many years. And I think a fullback might really help
Speaker 1: us with our run game, especially in those critical moments
Speaker 1: when we need to run the ball. Just wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you guys opinion on that. Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Fantastic question. I don't disagree with him. I man, I
Speaker 1: wish shaw alana Lua was healthy because I feel like
Speaker 1: he would fill that role and there wouldn't be really
Speaker 1: a question about it. I think Alana Lua the way
Speaker 1: that he was looking at training camp, he could have
Speaker 1: been a weapon as a receiver. He could have been
Speaker 1: a weapon as a tailback. But my goodness, he would
Speaker 1: have filled that initial blocker role and I think we
Speaker 1: would have seen a lot of that. Rob Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that was the plan. I honestly think it was
Speaker 1: the plan. Mike McCarthy go back to Green Bay and
Speaker 1: he utilized the full back position. John Cune I think
Speaker 1: was one guy, you know, and they've done it in
Speaker 1: the past with Jason Garrett here Zeke I think has
Speaker 1: been used more to one back sets going back to college.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that something they can't use. I
Speaker 1: think there is value in it. It's just throughout the
Speaker 1: league you're just seeing less and less of it. The
Speaker 1: Mooses of the world, it's just less of a of
Speaker 1: a factor as we go to more spread offenses. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I agree, I like fullbacks. I
Speaker 1: love fullbacks. I think the only thing with this particular team,
Speaker 1: the way we're built, is it takes to the personnel
Speaker 1: grouping off the field that the versatility um. Now to
Speaker 1: your point, I can't pronounce the say shaw Shaw. I
Speaker 1: liked him a lot, and I think that he did
Speaker 1: give us the opportunity to still be a threat in
Speaker 1: that personnel grouping um and obviously multi multi faceted. So
Speaker 1: I think losing him really changed our approach in terms
Speaker 1: of short short yardage. Yeah, I love what I love
Speaker 1: what San Francisco does with number forty four. I can't
Speaker 1: say his last name, but he's he's a he's a fullback,
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that gets out in the flat
Speaker 1: A lot to catch him out there, and he does
Speaker 1: a lot of lead blocking for them. But I also
Speaker 1: think that Kelly Moore does a really good job of
Speaker 1: incorporating tight ends. Uh in that situation use check. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a lot of vowls in there, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is okay, But I'm just saying us check. They
Speaker 1: just do a really good job with him, um, you
Speaker 1: know in the run. So I mean, and that's why
Speaker 1: I love And I'm gonna get in trouble with Roxanne
Speaker 1: because she's an Ohio State grad. But that's why I
Speaker 1: love about Michigan and the way that they play. They
Speaker 1: incorporate a lot of fullback as well. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a lost art in football, but I think it still
Speaker 1: has value. Isaiah's looking at the play is this We're
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Speaker 1: we weren't in studio. I feel like we didn't do
Speaker 1: it the right way. Basically, it's the scratch and sniff.
Speaker 1: It was a joke that we made one time, and
Speaker 1: then it turned into our form of helmet stickers. So
Speaker 1: every time a player makes a player does something well
Speaker 1: on a game day, we will give them a helmet sticker. Well, now,
Speaker 1: oh wow, where I'll even I'll put the camera on it.
Speaker 1: I've got ourselves a helmet. It's Cowboys helmets replica from Radell.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fantastic. And I've also got us some smelly
Speaker 1: stickers to go with it, some scratch and sniff smelly
Speaker 1: stitch you. We gave out four yesterday and we're gonna
Speaker 1: put them on here like helmet stickers, So make sure
Speaker 1: and keep that in mind. And we'll do that starting
Speaker 1: uh next week. I'll have the four on there from
Speaker 1: this week, but then we'll actually put them on. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write the names of who got him. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put the numbers of who got him. We can't
Speaker 1: put Joe smell. It's gonna be a helmet cover. Oh goodness,
Speaker 1: the Special Team's helmet, the big drop, big one ter steel.
Speaker 1: They have the white cover. But yes, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: some scratching snips coming up here later on. But I
Speaker 1: say I wanted you guys to kind of get this
Speaker 1: out of the way talking about the passet deference called
Speaker 1: what did you see after reviewing the film? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went frame by frame actually, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: CB can actually zoom in on this from this particular angle.
Speaker 1: Can we see this here? No? Not so much? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so for a nice angle right this steel
Speaker 1: shot right here, that's p O any other down I
Speaker 1: would say yes, But understand this from the DB's perspective,
Speaker 1: the dB is entitled to that same space, not even sorry.
Speaker 1: Right there, that dB is the title to that same space. Now,
Speaker 1: have that DB's momentum being going backwards like towards the
Speaker 1: opposite goal line, and he reached back and ground PI
Speaker 1: all day long. But the fact that that dB put
Speaker 1: his feet in the ground was asante Samuel Joe right.
Speaker 1: He put his feet in this ground, and he broke
Speaker 1: exactly when Coop broke. He's entitled to that space. Now
Speaker 1: he is grabbing him. The bodies run into each other.
Speaker 1: When when one four stops runs into another force. Now,
Speaker 1: as I go to the next freeze frame, give me
Speaker 1: one second here, and if you're not watching Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: by the way, you can go check out the actual
Speaker 1: footage on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Yeah, but as you
Speaker 1: as you go to the next frame, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: it here in three two one now being held Now okay,
Speaker 1: now you guys can see that Coop is, now where's
Speaker 1: his arm at He's extending his arms. The guy is
Speaker 1: holding him at least I don't disagree. Okay, I disagree,
Speaker 1: But guess what as soon as Coop decided to extend
Speaker 1: his arm and push off, now I guess what they
Speaker 1: both have been physical. You just what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: just doctored that whole video. I didn't give me the
Speaker 1: freeze frame. What's that stuff that they do with You're
Speaker 1: trying to get your fat to look you're trying to
Speaker 1: look slim? How do you do that? That airbrush? What
Speaker 1: do you do? I'm with you there, it's air brush
Speaker 1: fighting on both sides. But I think the issue I
Speaker 1: have and fans have is if they're going to call
Speaker 1: that on curs and then they need to call it
Speaker 1: one that that's a totally different that's a totally different case.
Speaker 1: But in terms of this on fourth down and you've
Speaker 1: got two grown men going at it, fighting for the
Speaker 1: same position, there's is going to be contact, you can't
Speaker 1: expect no contact. And when there's contact on both parts,
Speaker 1: one person grabs him because that's what dbs do. The
Speaker 1: other receiver pushes his own because that's what receivers do.
Speaker 1: You can't call it one way, not not on fourth down.
Speaker 1: Wild receiver stored there, Isaiah stand back. I'm no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not staying up for anybody. I'm just saying you're
Speaker 1: not going to get that call. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: it's not a foul. I'm just saying that you're not
Speaker 1: going to get that call in that situation, that the
Speaker 1: specific scenario that led to it. I agree, and I
Speaker 1: also think it's kind of ironic in a game that
Speaker 1: was very much so dictated and will definitely be remembered
Speaker 1: for how many flags were thrown, we're arguing on one
Speaker 1: that was not thrown, which is kind of ironic from
Speaker 1: the from the talking Cowboys standpoint. But that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for us today. I hope you had some fun
Speaker 1: over the last forty five minutes or so. We've got
Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back doing great work as always.
Speaker 1: How about Aaron Gonzalez ag the Cowboy yesterday. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: The big draft out ag from Terrence Steele. We've got
Speaker 1: heck Ma Harris and Isaiahs stand back Rob Phillips, I'm
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