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Speaker 1: Everybody's saying the same thing. It's one more thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: Just just stay in practice. Whatever it is, whatever you're proposing,

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Speaker 2: I'm against it.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the uniform political analysis, here's a joker.

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Speaker 3: Authorities in the Czech Republic are searching for a kangaroo

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Speaker 3: that escaped from a prison. And if you're wondering what

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Speaker 3: a kangaroo is doing in prison ten years for insurance fraud.

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Speaker 2: That's a funny joke.

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Speaker 1: That is funny. Why was a kangaroo in prison? I

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Speaker 1: just told you can't even might have to insurance fraud.

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Speaker 2: A bastard, line bastard.

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Speaker 1: So it hasn't escaped us. That pretty much everybody who

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Speaker 1: does political analysis of presidential races, left right and center,

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Speaker 1: they're all saying the same thing. If Trump can basically

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Speaker 1: change into a different personality, he can win this race.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, going away. But he is not doing it.

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Speaker 2: And I would say it's mostly on the right that

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Speaker 2: you're hearing this increasingly frantic point of view expressed. Let's

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Speaker 2: start with Nicky Haley, then we'll go I think you'll

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Speaker 2: recognize most of the names. I'll shout him out before

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Speaker 2: we roll each clip.

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Speaker 4: The Republican Party needs to make a serious shift here.

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Speaker 4: And the first thing is the Republican Party Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: People here at Fox quit complaining that she's not giving

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Speaker 4: an interview. You don't need an interview from Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: We need him to win. But you got to go

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Speaker 4: out and do the work. And the one thing Republicans

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Speaker 4: have to stop. Don't quit whining about her. I want

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Speaker 4: this campaign to win, but the campaign is not going

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Speaker 4: to win. Talking about crowd sizes, it's not going to win.

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Speaker 4: Talking about what race Kamala Harris is, it's not going

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Speaker 4: to win. Talking about whether she's dumb, it's not. You

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Speaker 4: can't win on those things. The American people are smart.

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Speaker 4: Treat them like they're smart.

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Speaker 2: She was right on all of the last several points.

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Speaker 2: That first point, pressuring Kamala to do a debate or

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Speaker 1: A good strategy. Absolutely wrong about that. But crowd size, nicknames, race, come.

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Speaker 2: On, Oh, it's worse than a waste of time. Here's

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: You've got to make this race not on personalities. Stop

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Speaker 1: questioning the size of her crowds and start questioning her position.

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Speaker 5: Kelly Anne Conway, the winning formula for President Trump is

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Speaker 5: very plain to see.

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Speaker 3: It's fewer insults, more insights, and that policy contrast.

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Speaker 2: And Jonah Goldberg with a kind of tangential objection.

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Speaker 3: To be chumming with Elon Musk, who's the only major

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Speaker 3: car manufacturer in the country that is not unionized and

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Speaker 3: is just not a great signaling from Donald Trump. And

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Speaker 3: so I think the Dunocrats were smart disease on this,

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Speaker 3: and it was a silly thing to do the Twitter

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Speaker 1: So we got a text that said, this is a

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Speaker 1: pretty good idea. Trump should have a large video screen

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Speaker 1: next to him at every rally and ask Kamala questions

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a brilliant idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your Hey, Kamala, what's your since you won't

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Speaker 1: your stance on insurance for illegals? And then have her

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Speaker 1: answer and you can do that with the budget. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel I think we should be energy independent.

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Speaker 1: But and we can be with fracking, But how do

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Speaker 2: You gotta hammer that, absolutely hammer it. That's a brilliant idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot better than complaining about crowd sizes

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Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff. And then one this is

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Speaker 1: for I'm a Democrat in the Wall Street Journal today

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Speaker 1: writing an opinion piece. But Bill Galston, if Trump wants

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Speaker 1: to contend seriously, he will stop challenging miss Harris's racial identity,

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Speaker 1: now that simple of a presidential race. The issues are

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty. But if he's Brian Kemp. But if

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Speaker 1: He won't win. It might be just that simple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Nikki Haley went on to say Republicans need

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Speaker 2: Who is this? Noah Rothman the National Review, agreeing, if

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Speaker 2: it's about the issues, you win going away. I mean,

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Speaker 2: because the who gets who do you prefer on this issue,

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Speaker 2: that issue, that issue. The numbers have shifted significantly in

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Speaker 2: Kamala's direction. Remember when Trump had like a fifty point

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Speaker 2: numbers have changed. But that is the point of making

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Speaker 2: get much more healthy for Trump again. But it's got

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Speaker 2: to be about the issues, and everybody knows it. And

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Speaker 2: everyone knows it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mark Alpern's reporting over the weekend was when Trump came

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Speaker 1: out to do big fundraising thing swinging the West coast

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Speaker 1: kidding me. It is amazing. It's an interesting personality trait

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Speaker 1: that multiple people can tell you, hey, that's not it,

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Speaker 1: worked throughout his life. I'm sure he got all kinds

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Speaker 5: Yes, Michael, I know Trump's always been a character. Is

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Speaker 5: it possible that this is an age thing creeping in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what a lot of people wonder.

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Speaker 2: It's not inconceivable. Here's here's a bit of a devil's

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Speaker 2: advocate question for you. Is there anybody in his inner

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Speaker 2: circles outer circle? JD Evance, Eric Trump, anybody saying let's

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Speaker 2: keep hammering on the fact that she's exaggerating crowd sizes.

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Speaker 2: We got to keep workshop and devastating nicknames for her,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, let's let's just really go with she's stupid.

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Speaker 2: I think that's how we win the election in November.

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody advocating that.

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Speaker 1: If there is, fire them now?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Does anybody know what Kamabla is? That's what he calls

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Speaker 1: her and when he posts.

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Speaker 2: Well, all I can do is guess And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is it blah is in blah blah? But there's no

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know, And I don't want to

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Speaker 2: spend any time thinking about it because it's a good

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Speaker 2: way to get Democrats elected and ruin the country.

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Speaker 1: Boy, that interview her on stage with her answers is

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Speaker 1: a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Every single flip flop that she is now notorious for

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Speaker 2: the ones we mentioned, there are several more too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you just have her original answer and

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Speaker 1: then make us what I'm saying. Yeah, make her come

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Speaker 1: out and say that no, that's not what I think anymore.

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Speaker 2: And with that, yeah, hammer it all over and over

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Speaker 2: and over again, say I think she still believes this stuff?

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Speaker 2: She well, she hasn't come out and explained that she doesn't.

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Speaker 2: So Yep, this is what Kamala Harris believes hammer the

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Speaker 2: shit out of that. Do you think Trump till she

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Speaker 2: emerges from her cocoon and makes an ass of herself?

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Speaker 5: Do you think Trump is just going out and doing

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Speaker 5: his own thing? In other words, he may be getting

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Speaker 5: this good advice and he's just ignoring it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what people who've worked for him say. I

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Speaker 1: think he's been doing his own thing his whole life,

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Speaker 1: and it's worked pretty freaking well for him, so I

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Speaker 1: can see why he continues to follow his gut.

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Speaker 2: Sorry I made you believe that, Hanson, I apologize.

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Speaker 1: I think you enjoy dropping s bombs, so.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: It's very satisfying.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the glee in his eyes? Language seasoning?

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it as well. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like it, except you almost did it on the air.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's a pleast. He saves it for the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what she said, maniac?

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess that's it.