1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Yankees are definitely going to get after it. Brian Cashman 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: has said, We're go into town the Boston Red Sox. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: They're buyers, so why not strengthen your strength. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Let's hit the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken, 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: great to see you, Happy second half of the season 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: to you and trade deadline season. So I want to 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: start with the AL West leader. The Houston Astros could 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: have a number of starting pitchers returning in the second 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: half of the season. They have a lead in the 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: AL West. Jeremy Pania and Jordan Alvarez should return at 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: some point in the second half of the season. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: Do you think they. 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: Will be aggressive buyers because the American League has been 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: kind of weak the past couple of years, and who knows, 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: maybe the Astros mess around and end up in the 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: World Series again. 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: Right, certainly can't rule that out. 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: And I do think they will be aggressive and it's 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to see what they try 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: to accomplish. 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: Channel the Road. 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Athletic and of our network speculated that they would go 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: for Merrill Kelly strengthen the rotation further because you don't 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: know what you're getting from Christian Vasquez and Luis Garcia 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: and the pitchers who are coming back. You can't be 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: sure of that, so why not strengthen your strength. Put 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Kelly with from ber Valdez and Hunter Brown, and then 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: you really have something. We know they have a great 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: back end of the bullpen. Their offense once Alvarez is. 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: With them, should be okay. 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: The one thing that they've also needed and have talked 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: about is a second baseman, and preferably a left handed 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: hitting second basement. 34 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: If the Rays over the next ten days Falter. 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they make Brandon Lau available. But I'm putting two 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: and two together. I have no idea whether that would happen, 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: But yes, to answer your question, Scott, I do expect 38 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: them to be aggressive. 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: I think we have to check to see if my 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: mic is on or if anybody's mic is on in Seattle, 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: Jerry Depoto, like is this thing out? Like we haven't 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 5: seen any moves from Jerry to Poto. What can we 43 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: see from Seattle that needs to like get this team 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: over the hump and get this vaunted pitching staff in 45 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: the playoffs. 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Eric, we haven't really seen any moves from anyone, So 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't think we should single out Jerry Depoto or 48 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: any other president of. 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 4: Base Operations or head of base operations. 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: At this point, which July eighteenth, we are thirteen days away, 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: and really they've only been a couple of very minor 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: deals so far. Now to the question of what Seattle 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: needs and what they want, they've been talking about a 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: corner infield bat Could it be a Johanno Suarez, Could 55 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: it be Josh Naylor, someone along those lines, And I 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: would expect that they're going to be active along those fronts. Now, 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: could they do other things as well? Could they strengthen 58 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: the bullpen? Could you maybe even at a starter. Jerry 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Depoto is the kind of head of base operations I 60 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: put nothing past and you never know. 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: What they might think of. 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: But the rotation still seems to be a strength. Now 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: that pretty much they are healthy except for Bryce Miller, 64 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: and offense is where they can. 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: Really make the biggest upgrade. 66 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: The question with all of these things that we're going 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to talk about for the next two weeks, guys, is 68 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: where is the quality in this market? Where are the 69 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: good players that are available. They're not that much of 70 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: a supply. There's not that much of a supply right now. 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: And that is the issue. That's the problem that teams 72 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: are going to face. There are some executives predicting it's 73 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: going to be a boring deadline because just of what 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: I said, there are not that many good players available, 75 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: and it's going to be tough for teams even to 76 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: pry away some of the ones that. 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: Are What are you hearing about the market for Luis 78 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 5: Robert Obviously twenty twenty three All Star and super feenom 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 5: coming up possibly in the last two years have been 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: a dud, But what have you been hearing out there 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: about his availability but also his desire from other teams 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: to want him. 83 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: He's highly available and the White Sox eric hole the 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar club option on him for next year. 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: They're not exercising that option. So you have to trade 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: Luis Robert Junior to get anything in return for him, 87 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: and I mean anything, whatever it might be. Now, if 88 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: you're the White Sox, you will tell teams hey still 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: a great defender or good defender in centerfield, steals a 90 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: lot of bases. Of course, has to get on to 91 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: steal bases, but we believe he can still be a 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: contributor for your contending team. Contenders are going to say 93 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: in response, he's hitting one ninety or whatever the number is, 94 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: and we're not paying a premium for this dude, especially 95 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: when he's got some money coming to him. 96 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: So I expect to be traded. 97 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: I don't expect he's going to bring back a lot, 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: and I expect the team that. 99 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: Acquires him will say, change his scenery. Maybe it will 100 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: do him good. 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: If you look at what happened with Andrew Vaughn in Milwaukee, 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Vaughan was one of the worst offensive players in 103 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: the league and suddenly he is a significant contributor for 104 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: the Brewers. Now, maybe it's only one good week, I 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: get it. But at the same time, maybe getting guys 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: out of there and having them join a new team, 107 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: team that will refresh them and bring them perhaps to 108 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: a greater level of performance. 109 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 5: Do you know, maybe this is something that's way out 110 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: of your scope. But Luis Robert his contract you've said 111 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 5: about they have a team option to pick it up 112 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: if he gets traded. Does he have the opportunity to say, hey, 113 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: I want them to pick up this trade. I don't know, 114 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: if he's like no trade clause any of that stuff. 115 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 5: Would teams be afraid to then not trade for him. 116 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: If that were the case, I. 117 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: Would expect that if he gets traded Eric, the. 118 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: Team that acquires him will be operating under the premise 119 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: that they're not picking up the option. Now, maybe he 120 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: goes NOTHS in the final two months and you say, 121 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll take it for twenty million next year. 122 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: But what are the odds of that. I don't think 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: they're very high. So there's no no trade clause. As 124 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: far as I know, he can't demand them to pick 125 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: up an option, and teams would laugh. 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: At him if he did that anyway. 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: So that's my expectation that any team that acquires him 128 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: looks at him as a rental. 129 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 6: A lot of AL teams hovering over that five hundred mark. 130 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 6: As we've seen, it's going to be a battle to 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 6: the finish. That's exciting for baseball, exciting for everybody that's 132 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 6: a baseball fan. You do you know any sellers or 133 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: buyers right now of those AL teams are as a 134 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: wait and see closer to the deadline as we get there. 135 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Todd, there are a number of teams that are waiting 136 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: to see and I will go through them as quickly 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: as I possible in the as I can. In the 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: American League, the Boston Red Sox their buyers, but the 139 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays, after losing twelve of sixteen, they don't 140 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: know where they are. Next ten days are critical for them. 141 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota and Cleveland four four and a half games out 142 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: in the wildcard race. Next ten days also critical for them, 143 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: and even Kansas City, which just acquired Adam Frasier and 144 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: clearly wants to compete. If things go south for them 145 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: in the next ten days, they're going to have to 146 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: look at trading Seth Lugo. 147 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: And then you get to the Western Division. 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: The Texas Rangers are another team that are kind of 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: in this We're not quite sure who we are. They 150 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: want to contend they have built this team to be 151 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: a really good team and it hasn't happened. So if 152 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: they do not fire in the next couple of days 153 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: and weeks, I would expect they're gonna have to take 154 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: a hard look at some things too and maybe consider 155 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: themselves more of a seller. 156 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: Can I'll flip over to the National League. I like 157 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: this term that you use sometimes, bell of the ball. 158 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: Do you think the Pirates might end up as that team? 159 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Because they do have assets in Dennis Santana and David 160 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Bednar in the back end of the bullpen. If there 161 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: aren't significant starters available, like let's say the Diamondback's going 162 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: to run the next ten days, they take their guys 163 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: off the market. Mitch Keller might be the best starting 164 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: pitcher available at the trade deadline. Do you think the 165 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: Pirates could be this very popular team. 166 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: I do. 167 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: And it's not just miss Keller, of course, It's Kip 168 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Hayes, It's Brian Reynolds, it's the two relievers you mentioned. 169 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: They could do annumber of things. Now will they do them? 170 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. And they're in a really. 171 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Good position with Keller in particular, because of the shortage 172 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: of starting pitchers. 173 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: Who is the Max Schurzer of this year's deadline. 174 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: There is none, So you're looking at Sandy Alcantra, who 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: has struggled, Zack Gown, who has struggled. 176 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: Merrill. Kelly is good. 177 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks probably will only trade one of Kelly and 178 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Gown if they trade at all. 179 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: And then there's Mitch Keller and maybe a few others. 180 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Adrian Howser with the White Sox, Charlie Morton with the Orioles. 181 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: It's not a killer group. 182 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: By any stretch of the imagination. So Scott, to answer 183 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: your question, yes, the Pirates do hold a lot of pieces. 184 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: They have no reason to hold on to them, and 185 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I would expect, because they've made it known that the 186 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: only untouchables are Skeins and McCutcheon, that they will be 187 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: quite active. 188 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: One more team in that division. Let's say the Cardinals 189 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: fall off over the next ten days. Do you think 190 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: they could open things up with a Ryan Helslee and 191 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: maybe even a Sunny What was he saying, Kratz that 192 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: he would maybe consider a trade at the deadline. 193 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 5: He said no in the off season. Okay, possibly consider 194 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: it at the trade deadline. 195 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: That would be a big name. 196 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: It would be, and their team to watch as well. 197 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: They fall into that same uncertain category that I lived 198 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: with the American League teams. 199 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: Hellsley is a guy. 200 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: Yes, if he became available, teams would love to have him. 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: He'd be an easier pitcher or closer to acquire than 202 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: Classe or Durant or Jackson in the American League. Those 203 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: guys have control left. You'd have to pay a higher price. 204 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Helsey would be a rental The Cardinals are a team 205 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: that is played beyond where they thought they would be, 206 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: beyond where really everyone in the. 207 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: Industry thought they would be. 208 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: I don't expect John Mosey Lock as President Baseball Operations 209 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: in his final year, is going to want to concede 210 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: if they're anywhere close. But yes, Scott, under the scenario 211 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: that you just presented, if they fall off, sure I 212 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: would expect that they would open things up. 213 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 6: Go back to the Northeast. Here we got to ask 214 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: this question, Mets. The Yankees also having a really good year. 215 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 6: What do you see these two teams doing at the deadline. 216 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 6: We know what the Yankees need, maybe a third base, 217 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: maybe another starting pitcher, Mets, I mean they can use it, 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 6: you know, another starter or two as well. Like what 219 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 6: are their specific needs and do you see both those 220 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 6: teams getting after it. 221 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: The Yankees are definitely going to get after it. 222 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: Brian Cashman has said, we're going to town and they 223 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: have very obvious needs, starting pitcher being one, bullpen help 224 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: being perhaps the most important thing that they can do. 225 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: And yes, the third basement as well, especially now with 226 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Jazz back at second and they don't really get any 227 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: offense out of Parraza at third, so they want to 228 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: improve in all of those areas. The Mets are a 229 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: little bit different that they can do some things too, 230 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and Will Bullpen, I would expect would be their primary 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: area of focus. Yes, certainly they could use a starter 232 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: given the situation that they're. 233 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: In, but it's good to know with them. 234 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: They've got Senga healthy, now, they've got Manaia back, and 235 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Montas looks like he might be okay too. 236 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: You put those three with. 237 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: David Peterson, I don't know that you need to play 238 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: on a big starter. 239 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: Maybe you just need a depth guy. 240 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: And then they've also talked about centerfield and maybe Harrison 241 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Bader coming back someone like that. So I expect them 242 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: to be active as well. And their form system is 243 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: deeper than it was, so to get what they want, 244 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: they might not have to trade their top guys. And 245 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: in this market, I don't know that there's anybody worth. 246 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: Your top guys. So we'll see how that plays out. 247 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 5: What phrase did Cashman use that you just said going 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 5: to town? Going to town. That doesn't sound like Brian 249 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 5: Cashman at the trade deadline. That sounds like Yankees fans 250 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: at the trade deadline thinking what Brian Cashman should do so. Historically, Historically, 251 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: he doesn't go to town. Is there a team that 252 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: is going to be reckless at the trade deadline or 253 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 5: should be reckless based on the fact that maybe this 254 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: front office doesn't have a job anymore. 255 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, the Ekis have been generally active at the deadline 256 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: when they've had a chance, So going to town is 257 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: not a phrase that I've heard him use before, but 258 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: he has been active. 259 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: He does not hesitate. 260 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: The Toronto Blue Jays are a team that their front 261 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: office has been under some scrutiny in recent years. And yes, 262 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: their contracts are essentially up Mark Schapiro this year as 263 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: the team president, Ross Atkins next year as the general manager. 264 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 4: Obviously they are linked. 265 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: They have the ability to do some things to upgrade themselves, 266 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: and they are willing, I am quite certain to trade 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: from the fums to do so. 268 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: And I don't know that I would say they're trying 269 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: to save their jobs. 270 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: Baseball executives don't operate like that too often. They are 271 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: generally pretty responsible, trying to protect their teams present as 272 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: well as their future. But the Jays are certainly motivated 273 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: because they haven't played well in recent years and here. 274 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: They are finally back at the top of the division 275 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and they've got a chance with this. 276 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: Particular group of players to do something special. So yes, 277 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that they'll do anything reckless, but I 278 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: expect them to be active and aggressive. The other team 279 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: that we have to watch because aj Preller is so 280 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: creative and aggressive always is San Diego. 281 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: And I don't know that they're going to go crazy, 282 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: and their system is not what it once was, and 283 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: we don't know how much payroll flexibility they have, but 284 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: they have a clear need in left field. They could 285 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: certainly use another reliever because as good as their bullpen is, 286 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: with three All Stars and Estrada could have been an 287 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: All Star, those guys are all up near the league 288 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: lead in appearances, and then a starting pitcher as well 289 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: would be something that would behoove them a controllable starter, 290 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: ideally with CEC and King both eligible for free agency. 291 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: I can't predict and will not predict what aj Preller 292 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: might do. 293 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: But do I expect him to be busy? Oh? Yeah, always, 294 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: that's what he does. 295 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: I think you should. 296 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: I love their bullpen. I mean that bullpen caused problems 297 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: last year in the playoffs. Could have got them to 298 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: a World Series. It was close, so I'm all for it. 299 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: Two more to go, Ken. We're taking you away from 300 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: the teams and the player specifically for some bigger picture topics. Actually, 301 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: this one does involve a player, but it's not trade wise. 302 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: I was crushed annihilated yesterday when we went through your 303 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: athletic notes column. Okay, and we were going down the 304 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: line and we got to the Kyle Tucker conversation. AJ 305 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: and Kratz bullied me like never before on this show, 306 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: saying I was absolutely insane for even considering that Kyle 307 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: Tucker would ever sign with the Rays based on a 308 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: new owner coming in and spending money like that. Can 309 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: you help defend me since you actually put the article 310 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: out and I bought into it. I said, it's not 311 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: the craziest thing in the world. 312 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: Is it likely? No, But we don't know this guy, 313 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: and sometimes owners come in and spend. 314 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Big I don't know why you would be bullied over that. 315 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: It was speculative, yes, but yes, that's the whole thing. 316 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker's from Tampa. He is a guy that is 317 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of quiet to himself, doesn't necessarily need the bright lights, 318 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: and if an came in and was willing to pay 319 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. 320 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: Admittedly that's a long shot. 321 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: No matter who the owner is in Tampa Bay because 322 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: of their market, I can't imagine he wouldn't entertain the idea. 323 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: And if you remember a couple of years ago, they 324 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: went pretty big for Freddy Freeman. 325 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Now, one hundred and fifty million, which is what they 326 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: were offering Freddy, is different than four hundred to five hundred, 327 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: which is what Cayle Tucker's going to get. 328 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: I understand all that, but there's no reason you should 329 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: have been bullied about this. 330 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: It was merely a note and not even the lead 331 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: note in a column, and just kind of an idea 332 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: to throw out there for people to kind of think about. 333 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: I didn't present it as anything that's going to happen. 334 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: But it's an intriguing thought because once they do get 335 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: a new owner, I would expect a new owner is. 336 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: Going to act differently than the previous owner. 337 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Whether he goes out and signs a Kyle Tucker that's 338 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: another question entirely. But yeah, when a new owner comes in, 339 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: generally things change. 340 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: I was getting a side eye from Crats just now, 341 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: but ken they even came back with me at one 342 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: point and said, new owners take time, and I gave them. 343 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: Cohen and Mark Walter. They that that doesn't count. Then 344 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: I brought then we both brought up the Orioles. But 345 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: wait the Orioles. They're like, well that hasn't worked out. 346 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: Wait the ools up there. Yeah, he said so he 347 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: actually said it wrong. 348 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe the peril increased by the second highest 349 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: amount last year. Now did they spend well, that's another question. 350 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: But he did come in and spend. It wasn't like 351 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: they went crazy. They didn't resign Corbyn Burns, but they 352 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: did spend some money. 353 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: Yes, they offered. 354 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: They offered Corbyn Burns some cash. 355 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: They did. They did the. 356 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: Big offer. It was four that's a big offer. 357 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: Up in the highest highest av I think. 358 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: Yes it was, but it wasn't. 359 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Ken. I appreciate you being on 360 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: our side because one we didn't bully him. You were 361 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: on our side. You understand on your side, he's on 362 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 5: our side. 363 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 6: Thank you. 364 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: You brought up the exact same argument that I had 365 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: Freddy Freeman for one hundred and fifty is way different 366 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: than Kyle Tucker. So you're on our side, and you 367 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 5: don't even know it, so you're a bully to Scott. 368 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Also, all right, ed, last one, Okay, let's see if 369 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: we can find common ground here. Topic of the day. 370 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: Should we push the trade deadline back two weeks? 371 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: I know that's a hot topic, and I understand where 372 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: it comes from, because by August fifteenth, things will be 373 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: clearer than they're going to be perhaps on July thirty. First, 374 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: the problem I have with pushing the deadline back is 375 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: the impact wouldn't be the same, and you're getting a 376 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: guy for six weeks instead of two months. I know 377 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: it's not that much of a difference, but the action 378 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be quite what it is now. 379 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 4: You wouldn't give up. 380 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: The same quality of prospect for six weeks on a rental, 381 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: for instance. 382 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: So I'm not for it. 383 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I understand the sentiment, and in this particular case, let's 384 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: look at this year's deadline. Even if we have more 385 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: clarity on August fifteenth, I don't know that we're gonna 386 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: have many better players available. 387 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: So I am not in favor of that. 388 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: And I know the argument and understand the argument for it, 389 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: and there's a valid argument there, but in my view, 390 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: it's more exciting to force teams to make decisions with 391 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: two months to go, and you get better prospects involved, 392 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: you get just more interesting traits. 393 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: Okay, fair point. I see both sides. 394 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: And this is the first time I have ever been 395 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: accused of being a bully. 396 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm five four. 397 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't really happen too often where people ask that 398 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: or people call me a bully. 399 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 6: Exciting. 400 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 5: Listen, I saw you, Ken, I saw you at the 401 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 5: All Star break. You are you can be a bully. 402 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 5: You could be a bully, and I like it. I 403 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 5: like that side of you. You're standing up taller now 404 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 5: that you feel like a bully. 405 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, except he doesn't agree with you, so good. Try 406 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: our two six foot billion catchers picking on me. But 407 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: I can take him. Thank you, Ken, have a great weekend. 408 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: We'll catch you on Fair Territory on Monday. 409 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 4: Thanks guys. 410 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: That's Ken Rosenthal on Fair Territory Monday and Thursday. 411 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 412 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: Next week is big, obviously, it's the week before trade 413 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: deadline coverage fires up, and we're gonna have a longer 414 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: show during the trade deadline day. Of course it'll be 415 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: I think one to six, but Fair Territory part of 416 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: the FT Network Live Monday morning, Ken recapping the weekend 417 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: and going over whatever trade chatter arises. Popcorner, let's pizzle, 418 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: it's powered by Next Playground and sitting next to the 419 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: home run heroes Legends of Next Playground Todd Father. 420 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that later. 421 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: Jim Bowden wrote this article yesterday should MLB move the 422 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: trade deadline? Why pushing it to mid August makes sense? 423 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: And he's got Zach's on the record talking about it. 424 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: He asked Dave Dombrowski, legendary baseball executive. His answer quote, 425 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea, So he's essentially in 426 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: favor of moving it. 427 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: Back, simple and right to the point. 428 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: He asked John Mazzaylock, longtime executive in the sport, very 429 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: successful with the Cardinals from a years and he said, quote, 430 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: I think it's worth the conversation. Boden writes about how 431 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: the draft has pushed back the conversations between executives because 432 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: they focus on the draft for a while. We also 433 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: have a ton of injuries in August and you can't 434 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: do anything about them anymore besides waiver pickups, which did 435 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: create the dump deadline a couple of years back with 436 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: the Angels, getting rid of all those players, but that's 437 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: not the norm. And I think the most important part 438 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: for the marketing Sidecrats was how he said a later 439 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: deadline would help the sports visibility because it would shine 440 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: a light on MLB more than ever before for the 441 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: first two weeks of August, when many people shift their 442 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: attention to NFL training camps and exhibition games. 443 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: He's got a great point there. 444 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: MLB owns July, but there shouldn't be a ton of 445 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: competition yet in August when there aren't real NFL games. 446 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: This would keep the narrative going online. Audience loves trade talk. 447 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm part of that, right. I'm a fan that loves podcast, 448 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: YouTube TV. I can't get enough of the trade talk. 449 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: That's me and I'm looking for that. I'm searching for that, 450 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: so are many other fans. I want to know what's next, 451 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: who is my team trading for, or who's being traded 452 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: in the league. Keep that conversation going another two weeks. 453 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 3: I would say. 454 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: The only downside is that some teams might say it's 455 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: not long enough and I'm going to shave some of 456 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: what I'm giving you off the return, and I say 457 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: I don't care as long as we get the deal done, 458 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't care if the prospect package isn't as good. 459 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: The same players are going to move, but you'll get 460 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: more players in the pool because more teams will be 461 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: out of it. 462 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 5: But then they're not going to move them. I think 463 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 5: it's going to be the adverse, Like teams are going 464 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 5: to be like, oh, I'll take a compic yeah, Like 465 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: they're not. They're not because we've already devalued the player, 466 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: like the I mean by two weeks, but that's two 467 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: weeks less of a chance that somebody, the owners or 468 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: the owners and the teams want this because then they 469 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: can tell are we in it or are we out 470 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 5: of it? Now they're like, I'm not sure I could 471 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 5: lose my job because I think we're out of it, 472 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: and then we're back in it. So it's creating more 473 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 5: certainty for them and less value for the You want 474 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 5: to go to a team that you're going to play 475 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: an extra month and try to win a World Series 476 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 5: with for two months or a month and. 477 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: A half, I don't think it makes a difference. I 478 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: think it. 479 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: Makes a huge difference. They're going to take what is 480 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 5: that seventy at bats away from a Juhenniosuarez on the 481 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 5: on the Yankees, on the Tigers. That's huge to me 482 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: if you are a team aspiring to be a winning team, 483 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: and we have less teams that really aspire to win 484 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: that we do teams that want to win, you want 485 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: to get this done. So to me, if if they're 486 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 5: gonna move it, I would be in favor of an 487 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 5: earlier deadline that gives them, you know, maybe you get 488 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 5: some type of compensation for the teams that actually want 489 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 5: to win and they're like, hey, halfway through the season, 490 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 5: So June fifteenth, there's some type of deadline, because we 491 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: want to move the other deadline back to August. 492 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: So two deadlines again, two. 493 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: Deadlines again, because the second one helps teams make that 494 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: change the first one. The Rockies knew they were should 495 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 5: be selling in that early one. The crappy teams you 496 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 5: don't care about winning, Hey, you know what, you don't 497 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 5: care about winning? Will incentivize you to trade ex players 498 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: with years of service. By June fifteenth, you get something back, 499 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 5: whatever the currency that they want, right whatever currency they want, 500 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: a third round pick, and then you have the regular 501 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: deadline moved back to mid August. If that's what they want. 502 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: I don't like it any later with it just being one. 503 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: That's fine. 504 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: I just think two weeks later will create more attention, 505 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: more action, and if you're worried about the return. The 506 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: one other thing you might have to figure out down 507 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: the road is getting rid of the qualifying offer, which 508 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: is not actually crazy. The league did offer to give 509 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: that up, and then they wanted the international draft. They 510 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: didn't come up with it, but the qualifying offer is annoying. 511 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: I think that eventually will go away anyway. I think 512 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: it'll eventually go away completely, And if it does. 513 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: It's gonna sound like something different. 514 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: And you're a team and you have a guy and 515 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: you let him go till the end of the contract 516 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 2: and he just leaves, you get nothing, and that's how 517 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: it should be because that forces you again to get something 518 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: for that player. And because that even happens right now, 519 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: sometimes the team will be like, hey, the best prospect 520 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm being offered, I don't think is as good as 521 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: the thirty fifth pick which I'll get. 522 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: For this guy leaving, so I'll just keep him. I'm 523 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: trying to think of things that will create more action 524 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: and activity. 525 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 6: More buzz too. 526 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it later. 527 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 6: I like it. There's a couple of things. I mean, 528 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: the draft should be a different time. All Stars should 529 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 6: be a whole week long, so everybody that gets picked 530 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 6: start the gat him on the Friday or Saturday. So 531 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 6: now all of a sudden, you know, you can go home. 532 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: But I feel like guys that get picked, they don't play. 533 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 6: You want to see all these guys play, try it out. 534 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 6: I mean, what's the worst that can happen? But yeah, 535 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 6: I do like I do like the trades to be 536 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 6: a little bit closer to the September start because if 537 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 6: an injury does happen, or if you're going into you know, 538 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 6: you're down two or three games and you need a 539 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 6: fifth starter like Boom and other teams are going to 540 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 6: get better too because they're gonna get rid of some 541 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 6: of their best players, so or prospects at least. So 542 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm all in for that, Scott, thank you. 543 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 5: My thing with it? If you're going to move it back, 544 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: is that just drumming up more publicity hubbub about the 545 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: trade deadline? 546 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: Yes? 547 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: Or is it making a better product on the field, 548 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 5: Because Ryan McMahon playing for the Rockies does not make 549 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: a better product on the field, and you're Henningosuarez playing 550 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 5: for the Diamondbacks right now is not a better product. 551 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: The best players on the best teams that want to 552 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: win or I know the Braves want to win, but 553 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: they're not in a winning window right now, putting those 554 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 5: players on those teams. Think about the Dominican Republic. Your 555 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: team is out, you get drafted to the teams that 556 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: are in the playoffs, like so, they have the best players. 557 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: You want the best players on the field to make 558 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: the teams the best, to make that product the best 559 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 5: that's out there. 560 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: You will have more trades if you push it back 561 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: two weeks because there will be a few other teams 562 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: that say, am tiptoeing, Okay, we just lost seven out 563 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: of ten. Our percentage chance went down even more. You 564 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: will have a couple more teams that fall out of it. 565 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: You will occasionally have a big injury in those two 566 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: weeks where its. 567 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: Team gets desperate too yeah, and they're like, hey, I 568 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: gotta make this move. I just lost my third basement. 569 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: Just had the August thirty first one back, the waiver one. 570 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 5: Yes, it was so asinine in my in my opinion 571 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 5: with that. 572 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: One too, but I just want more in August. August 573 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: gets slow for no reason. 574 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, overall, and this is a show that loves talking trades, 575 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: which we're gonna do with Ken Rosenthal coming up. But 576 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: first a reminder. Next Playground still has that sale running. 577 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: You can hit the QR code on the screen right 578 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: now for twenty percent off. That's a fifty dollars savings 579 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: play over forty five games. 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