1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Marlins fans, Welcome to a new edition of Big 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Fish Small Pod for Wednesday, May fifteenth, here on the 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Fish on First Podcast Channel, presented by MPT College Consulting. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm Eli Sussman. As this game was going on on 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Tuesday night with Ryan Weathers dealing, I knew about halfway 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: through that I would have to do a pod reacting 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: to it. It was easily the best starting pitching performance 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: by a Marlins pitcher so far in twenty twenty four, 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: and even though it was unique in several regards, it 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: also was extremely familiar to me. I'll explain why. The 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: final line for Weathers eight scoreless endings against the Detroit Tigers, 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: three hits, no runs, no walks, four strikeouts, ninety seven pitches, 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: sixty five of them for strikes. No Marlin's starter had 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: recorded or even gone out to pitch this seventh ending 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: at all during this season until Weathers just did it 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: right here and more more than a quarter the way 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: through this season. This was such an outlier in terms 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: of the both effectiveness and the efficiency, the ability to 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: go deep into a game the way that he did 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: and not exactly out of nowhere. For Weathers very quietly 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: he has had. I would say this is his third 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: straight great start. Even though the final lines the previous 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: couple of times didn't necessarily reflect that this was like 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: a natural step in his progression moving forward. It was 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: also very unusual. It was not, by any means a 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: dominant outing. I would not say it was a phenomenal outing. 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: You can use a lot of high praise for it, 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Let's not confuse it with a dominance that kind of 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: pitcher controlled, overpowering performance. As I noted, just four strikeouts, 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: a ton of ground balls for Ryan Weathers in this game, 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: a ground ball rate of sixty eight point two percent 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: for somebody that entered this game at about forty five 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: percent ground balls this season, and he's somebody that, including 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: this start, he leads to Marlins pitching staff in strikeouts 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: this year. We've seen games where he has been overpowering 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: with his swing and miss stuff, including a double digit 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: strikeout game just a few weeks ago. And yet in 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: this one, only five swinging strikes out of fifty two swings. 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: That is alarmingly low. Without even diving into it, I 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: can assure you that is the lowest whiff rate that 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: he's had in any outing. This year, and yet his 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: most successful one against the Tigers. What's it out to 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: me is that the Tigers loaded up their lineup with 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: about as many right handed hitters as possible. The only 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: lefty in there was their star outfielder Riley Green, who 46 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: DHD in this one. Everybody else was either a right 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: handed batter exclusively or a switch hitter with Weathers and 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: may have gone under the radar actually how large his 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: platoons What's had been entering this outing about a four 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: hundred gap ops between righty's and lefties. He's been able 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to miss a lot more bats against lefties this year, unsurprisingly, 52 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: and this was I'd say, I think the only time 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: this year where he's had to deal with this many 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: opposite handed hitters, and yet over and over and over 55 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: again he got them to roll over hate ground balls 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: to the left side. In particular, Tristan Gray extremely busy 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: at third base, making a ton of throws across the diamond. 58 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: Eight assists for Tristan Gray on this night. He was 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: kept extremely busy with Weathers, pitching fastball velocity right where 60 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: we come to expect it in the mid nineties, topping 61 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: out at ninety eight, averaging with his vorce hemer in 62 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: ninety six point four, plenty of sweepers he mixed in 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: and plenty of changeups. Those are his two main putaway 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: pitches so far this year, and yet in this particular 65 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: game they didn't really put away that many batters. But 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: ultimately what matters is throwing up zeros getting through ennings efficiently. 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: He's somebody that probably could have gone out for the 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: ninth ending under different circumstances. Of course, on the other 69 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: side of this game, Reese Olsen of the Tigers was 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: equally effective, almost an identical final line for Olsen in 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: this one, except with a couple more strikeouts than even 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: Weather's head, and so because of that, Marlin's understandably go 73 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: to Tanner Scott in the ninth ding with the game 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: still scoreless entering the ninth ending, and they ended up 75 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: pulling it out and winning an extra endings. As I 76 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: teased a couple of minutes ago, the reason why this 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: felt so familiar despite being so unmatched by any other 78 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Marlins pitcher this season, is that had a lot of 79 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: traits of a Sandy al Contra start. Sandy, of course, 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: the most recent Marlins pitcher to give eight innings in 81 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: a single start. Even last year when he didn't perform 82 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: up to his usual standards in terms of run prevention, 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: he would still go deep into games, having several of 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: those outings where he ate up those innings, even a 85 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: couple were they were scoreless as well, and he did 86 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: it on those days for the most part. Those would 87 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: be the days when he also had lower than usual 88 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: strikeout numbers. For him, when he wasn't necessarily going for 89 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: swings and misses, he is prioritizing soft contact ground ball contact. 90 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: Sandy has made it a tradition throughout his career to 91 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: get a lot of ground ground balls, and with weathers, 92 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, this is relatively new. He has not had 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: any particularly high ground ball tendencies during his career or 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: even this season coming into this outing, and he made 95 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: that interesting strategic approach in this one in order to 96 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: get those grounders and to get quick outs. This is 97 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: a Marlins infield defense that has not performed well this year. 98 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: There have been other games where ground ball heavy performances 99 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: have backfired for those pitchers and they've not been rewarded 100 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: forgetting what should be really makeable ows. But in this one, 101 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: whethers did a good job at exactly that. I think 102 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: it was that broke up a perfect game in the 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: sixth ending. It was a ground under that was just 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: out of the reach of Josh Bell at first base. 105 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: So maybe if there is a more agile first baseman there, 106 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: that Weather's perfect game bid it goes a little longer 107 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: than it actually did. But the combination of being really 108 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: efficient getting that soft contact. Overall, I think there were 109 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: only two hard hit balls that were not on the 110 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: ground against Weathers, meaning balls ninety five miles prour or 111 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: more exit velocity. All the other ones were on the 112 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: ground and that made them easily makeable plays. He used 113 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: his change up. It is that kind of pitch that, 114 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: especially against righties, he usually leans on it to get 115 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: those strikeouts. Instead, he used it a lot early in 116 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: the count in this one to get some of those 117 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: off balanced swings and guys weren't expecting it. It was 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: not by design to get as few swinging strikes as 119 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Weathers did, but he made it work for him all 120 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: things considered, with the way that he was mixing up 121 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: his pitches that he was attacking the zone, and to 122 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: be honest, his command was not especially precise either. Yet 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: another Sandy al contra comparison, where there are times where 124 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: simply having control is can be just as important as 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: your command. That throwing strikes and getting ahead in the 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: count could be just as important as actually dotting the corners. 127 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: So in this one, Weather's for the most part, you know, 128 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily hitting his spots precisely, but he was around 129 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: the zone. He was getting himself into advantageous counts, leading 130 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: to a lot of those desirable outcomes on balls and 131 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: play for him. He's not going to be Sandy the 132 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: rest of the season, not every time out, but as 133 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned, the last couple starts entering this one, we're 134 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: also encouraging in my opinion overall, Now the last three 135 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: starts combined for Ryan Weathers, he has issued one walk 136 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: in twenty innings during that span. In his walk rate 137 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: this season, if you include Tonight's performance significantly better than 138 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: his career norms, and when he's also avoiding getting the 139 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: ball barreled, it's encouraging. Yet Another way that ties in 140 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: a little bit to what Sandy does is the differential 141 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: now between his era and his FIP. Entering this game, 142 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: there was a half run difference between them, and including 143 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: this one. It's now about three quarters of a run 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: three to eight to one. Ra for whether it's through 145 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: his first nine starts a fip A four point five seven. 146 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Haven't watched him pitch a lot this season. I am 147 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: more of a believer in that run prevention number than 148 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: I am the underlying stuff. He has made really encouraging 149 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: strides with his pitch ability this year, now having four 150 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: pitches that he trusts quite a bit in his four seemer, 151 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: his sinker, his change up, and his sweeper. All of 152 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: them got pretty significant use in this adding against the Tigers, 153 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: so that has been really encouraging development. I remind people 154 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: for a relatively overlooked trade at last year's deadline that 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: didn't make much of a difference at all from the 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: Marlins in qualifying for the twenty twenty three postseason. But 157 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: he has impressed ever since spring training. Made that opening 158 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: day rotation. He is stuck in that rotation, and I 159 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: think it goes without saying that he's has that spot 160 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: locked down in this rotation for the foreseeable future, and 161 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: comfortably at that one of the top three guys in 162 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: this rotation for the near term, along with hayesiuse Zardo 163 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: and Braxton Garrett. So congratulations to Ryan Weathers. Even though 164 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: he has to settle for a no decision here due 165 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: to the inept Marlins offense, the team itself pulls out 166 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: a win, improving if we want to say so, to 167 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: twelve and thirty two on the season, and I'll continue 168 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: to be really infatuated with where Weathers goes from here 169 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: because he continues to get a little bit better. I 170 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: don't think it's premature to think that on a team 171 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: that just like every other, needs one All Star at 172 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: some point to represent them at the Summer Classic, it's 173 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: not outside the realm of possibility that Weathers could make 174 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the case with the fact that he's been available in 175 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: that he continues to trends in a positive direction as 176 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: this season goes on. I've been Eli's husband for the 177 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: small pod here on the fish on First podcast channel, 178 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: presented by MPT College Consulting. 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