WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: Week 4 of Testimony Begins 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.480 Hey, there are folks. On this Monday, June second, today, 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.480 marking the beginning of the fourth full week of testimony 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.520 in the Ditty trial. Welcome to this episode of Amy 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.160 and TJ ANDDJ Holmes alongside my partner Amy robock Ropes. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.919 We continue and been kind of amazed at just how interests, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.360 how much interest there is in this trial. We started, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.440 I guess the first week. We just want to give 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.040 a couple of updates and see how it went, and 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.600 there has been a pretty good response, so we're going 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.840 to continue to put these out as a one stop shot. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.760 Yes, we have been fascinated by this trial and have 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.440 been a little fascinated by how much all of you 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.839 listeners want to know the details of what's going on 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.800 in court. There aren't cameras in the courtroom, so we're 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.680 relying on some of the members of the media who 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.960 are there in that courtroom. And if you go through 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.479 all the different websites, you can kind of piece together 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.320 what's happening inside this rivening courtroom. I mean, one witness 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.960 after the next just keeps filling in details, jaw dropping 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.120 details that are really hard to believe. Except for all 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.280 of these witnesses seem to corroborate what the others have 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.160 been saying. It's a theme that is consistent. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.720 But yeah, it's just it's a lot. There are several 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.200 reporters in there, and look between the Washington Post and 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.720 CNN and the USA Today and the AP, and there 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.600 are a lot of folks in there who are given 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.759 us accounting of what's going on. But some of their 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.759 details can vary, and some of the details they want 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.080 to include in their coverage can vary. So that's where 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.600 Robot and I come in to try to help you 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.520 out because we do go through all of that stuff. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.080 So this has been a spot where we have been 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.479 given out that information. So thank you all for listening. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:44.080 We will continue here now with Mia Robes. Mia, testifying 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.440 under a pseudonym, had been on the stand for two 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.880 days last week, I guess a day and a half, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.840 but they didn't finish up with her on Friday, so 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.720 she will be back up first thing this morning. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.840 It's been a little surprising how long she's been on 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.560 this stand, not only given her testimony with direct testimony 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.760 telling what happened. She claims that just to catch you up, Diddy, 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.080 she says, raped her she says she was sexually assaulted 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.600 by him, and she goes through psychological abuse that she 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.639 says she suffered underneath him. And she of course offered 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:18.320 corroborating testimony about what she saw him due to her 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.160 friend Cassie van Touura. Fine, so she's been corroborating a 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.080 lot of that testimony as well. But man, the cross 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:29.280 examination where Ditty's lawyers get to question her and question 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.800 her credibility, that has been relentless. She has been on 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.640 the stand for hours dealing with his attorneys really trying 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.959 to poke holes in her testimony and question whether or 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.040 not she actually suffered the way she claimed she did, 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.520 and that is continuing today. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.560 Yeah, she was a right hand, folks. She was there 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:55.040 and she saw, She saw so much and had so 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.919 much access to his inner circle. She is definitely a 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.320 key prosecution witness. But she is also some one who 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.000 is I think there are essentially four victims that the 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.640 entire case is built on, and she is one of them, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.840 and she is testifying up there to protect her identity. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.480 But some of the things right, she is a victim 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:21.080 in that she has alleged years now of robes awful abuse, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:26.600 physical sexual assaults and rapes she describes on repeated occasions. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.160 That's one thing as a victim, but she was also 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:34.000 there as his right hand, so everything he did, she 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.000 saw so much. She saw so much of these things 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.200 we've been hearing about. She was a first hand witness 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:45.840 to it all. So she's key in that robes. After 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.120 Cassi even tour Refined filed her lawsuit, they got this 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.800 all going. She said she started hearing from Ditty and 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.560 his people because they knew immediately how much this woman knew. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.320 Yeah, and she says she did not talk to Ditty 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.520 that he tried. He said, I just need to minutes 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.160 with you. I just want to make sure I'm remembering 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.600 everything correctly. But she did not pick up the phone. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.760 She didn't talk to him. She spoke to his bodyguard, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.520 the guy who she knew d Rock. I believe he 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.200 is being referred to by most witnesses, but she said 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.359 she spoke to him. She never spoke to Diddy because 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.240 she knew what he wanted. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.200 So she goes through her testimony. Look, we talked about 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.000 a little bit last week some of her testimonies she 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.680 gave on the stand that was during the prosecution, during 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.960 direct questioning. But a couple of the details wrope this 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.200 one incident. Again, some of this, some of it we 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.200 listen to and go, okay, that's in line with the 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.800 previous story. That's in line with the previous story. But 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.760 so much of why they're having to do this, the 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.160 prosecution is building a case. This isn't just for us 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.120 and for headlines and for news, right, we have to 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.920 this is really for an audience of twelve. The jurors 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.159 in there, so they are hearing, and it's reason that 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.120 the prosecution has to go through all this. According to 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.400 legal experts, they're building a case of racketeering. So you 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.840 have to show that he there was forced labor involved. No, 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.400 that's not a sexy headline. Necessarily want to hear about 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.000 freak calls and baby old But no, no, no, no, this 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.840 is where robes. They say, they're getting down into the meat, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.159 and wow, this is so important to get so many 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:15.120 of these details, corroborating details from so many of these witnesses. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.839 That's right, And she even says, Mia says to date, 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.200 she can't get a job, She says she can't keep 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.720 a job because she's so triggered by everything. She suffered 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.320 under the hands of Ditty, and so, yeah, she testified 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.159 about so many instances, but somehow this was so interesting 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.120 to me. We've heard different versions of this from other 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.760 personal assistants. But she says she was suspended multiple times 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.120 without pay throughout her eight year employment with Ditty, and 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.720 she detailed a couple of those incidents. Once she said 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.120 she was suspended without pay because she laid out workout. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:49.880 Clothes that he didn't like. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:54.520 That's how upset he could get about little, seemingly insignificant things. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.240 And she also talked about being on a yacht in 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.279 Saint Bart's. She said she was tasked with count the 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.520 money in his safe and she said that he started 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.800 screaming at her because she was counting the money too 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.640 slowly and screened for her to get out of here. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.919 She was on a yacht, so he told her you 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.320 better learn to walk on water like Jesus did. And 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.760 so she ended up having to run up trying to 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.480 get to safety, to get on a boat to get 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.479 to shore, and before she got to shore, he called 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.600 her back and made her go to Las Vegas because 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.560 he just abruptly ended the same Barts trip to go 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.640 to Vegas. She said, that's just how erratic and stressful 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.240 and uncertain every moment was. He could be in a 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.120 good mood one moment and then seemingly just get triggered 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.279 by something insignificant. 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.039 She was the same one that was it the you 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.359 made me think of it talking about erratic behavior. I 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.440 think she testified he threw a computer at her head 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.480 because the WiFi went out. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.719 Yes, there, right, yes, So she had to duck several objects, 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.960 but for things that you wouldn't think would even be well, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.600 they weren't her fault, and things that she couldn't control, 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.760 and somehow she would suffer all of the blame. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.440 Now in court, we knew things were going to change 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.680 and things were going to switch, and she was reportedly 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:07.200 very historic composure, but she also at times was tearful 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.520 and recalling some things. But we knew there was going 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.080 to be a shift and a tone change when the 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.760 defense got it shot, and that's what they started with 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.120 the cross examination after lunch on Friday, but brothers before 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:22.480 they even started, the lawyers got into a fight around 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.640 the lunch break and reported it took at least a 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.679 half hour to get this worked out before the jury 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.560 came back in and what they were trying to do. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:33.640 The defense wanted to put on a video that showed 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.440 her dancing at one of Diddy's birthday parties. Now, the 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.720 prosecution says, wait a minute, this wasn't entered into evidence. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.640 We didn't know anything about this until now. Well, the 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.920 defense argued, well, we didn't know about it either. They say, 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.520 Internet sleuths are out there sending them stuff, and someone 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.480 out there grabbed this video and send it to them. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.240 I guess they were just trying to show that, hey, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.000 you're a sexual assault victim, then why are you dancing 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.200 so happily at this party? And they flat out said 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:03.280 she was putting on an act. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.360 On the stand, Yeah, they said that this was all 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:10.280 an act that she The video spoke clearly to the 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.520 love La fund she was having, how much she loved Diddy, 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.520 and they wanted jurors to see this video. Ultimately, the 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.080 judge ruled against showing the video, saying that it had 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.320 little relevance according to the judge, to the case and 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.680 so it was not admissible in court. But certainly the 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.520 defense went after Mia. They didn't have the video, but 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.480 they had Instagram posts, they had text and they used 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.160 them against her, saying, how could you say this about 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.600 Ditty years after you claim you were sexually assaulted by him? 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.040 That was their first hour of was just nothing but 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.920 Instagram posts. They were just scrolling through her Instagram post. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.120 Now one of them. We have a few here. One 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.160 of them she said this publicly about Diddy and I leave. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.440 This was one that was years after she claimed the 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.040 sexual assaults and rape started. Quote you are the coolest 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.520 alien rockstar, Unicorn pizza slice and we fucking love you? 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.920 Is what a row and some They actually had her 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:08.160 read herself. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:09.280 So that is tough. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.840 That is tough, and it's effective as a defense attorney. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.800 Yes, yep, we'll give you a couple other ones, just 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.560 because they had her read these out loud in court 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.240 on the fifth anniversary of the initial sexual abuses. Is 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.959 according to the defense attorney, he says this to mea 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.480 you are saying to Sean Combs on your social media 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.160 And here's where he quotes Mia, thank you for being 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.120 the good kind of crazy and continuing to inspire me 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.000 every single day. So the defense attorney read that one, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.080 and then this is the other one. He made me 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.640 a read about Combs on his birthday. This is what 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.679 Mia had to read. She had put this on social media. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:51.960 Legend rapper, actor, entrepreneur, an extra terrestrial was born. Happy birthday, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.720 thank you for showing me the path to Pluto and beyond. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.920 Well, that's effective if you are saying I am terrif 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.160 of this person, I am scared of this person. I 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.160 can't stand this person's person. It's ruined my life and 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.960 all these things. And this is years. They have messages 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.520 from years after the alleged abuse started that she is 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.040 still publicly saying this, And I guess she had two 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.559 answers for it. One was, we work for Diddy, he's controlling. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.200 We are expected to do this publicly. The other one was, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.319 I'm a sexual abuse survivor. Go talk to my therapist. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.959 Yes, go talk to my therapist. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.000 Try to understand why. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.840 Yes, yes, because that is the big question. How could 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.840 you say one thing and then be feeling another. I 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.120 do think it's interesting because this has been something that's 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.240 been alleged about him, that he had an expectation of 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.560 praise and so even from having some people pointed out 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.679 to having his kids post all of this stuff on 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.920 Instagram about his birthday, she said his birthdays were something 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.440 that everyone who worked for him knew. You were expected 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.280 to praise him and talk about him on social media 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.040 on his birthday, especially. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.960 Then she did repeatedly, But again she and again. According 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.719 to the observers in the courtroom, she was. She did 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.240 get stern at times and a little annoyed, but she 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.080 stayed composed the entire time, even when the defense attorneys 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.720 were coming after her. There was a key exchange that 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.600 it seemed like everybody was reporting about, and I'll just 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.520 give it to you the way it came about. The 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.600 defense attorney was questioning Mia and said to her quote, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.880 isn't it true that mister Colmbs never had forcible sexual 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.320 misconduct with you? MIA's response, I have not lied to 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.080 anyone at all. The defense attorney, isn't it true that 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.600 it never happened as many times as you told this jury? Mia, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.960 Everything I've said in this courtroom is true? The defense attorney, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.560 What if you're not a victim of sexual assault? Then what? 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.520 She didn't get a chance to answer. Objection from the prosecution, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.000 and the judge said, sustained. Hold up. You see where 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.640 they're trying to go here to suggest that there's at 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.080 least a question and that all you have to do 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.760 is put it in one juror's mind a question of 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.440 what her motivation was and that she had any incentive 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.920 to lie or to make any of this stuff up right? 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.000 Is it regret versus assault? Because at a certain point, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.720 if you're looking at her social media accounts, and of 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.800 course she mentioned that Instagram is a place where you 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.360 always put your best foot forward, where everyone who's on 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.320 Instagram understands that you're actually painting a picture of your 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.040 happy life and you're not posting things about what's going 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.800 wrong in your life. However, like you say, they just 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.439 need one dur or to think, hmm, she loved him, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.520 she idolized him, She wanted to do right by him. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.640 Was it really assault? Was it consensual? Was it just regret? 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.560 I mean, these are all the doubts that they're trying 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.240 to put in juror's minds in terms of her testimony, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.160 because she is one of the few who is claiming 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.160 he flat out raped her. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.120 That is what she said. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.800 She woke up to him on top of her saying 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.920 sh and she just let him do it because saying 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:46.920 no wasn't an option. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.800 Okay, to all of that point, there the defense. This 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:02.120 is that's what they really harped on. But the defense 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.320 went after her again for another message she had sent, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.640 I believe, sent to his chief of staff after she 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.360 learned that one of his companies she was working for 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.840 was going to be shutting down so she was going 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.680 to lose her job, and this is what she wrote, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.800 I'm going to kill myself. My life is over. The 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.320 defense with her asked why wasn't it a relief? Shouldn't 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.400 it have been a relief to be getting out of 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.240 there if you were going to be getting away from 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:32.080 your abuser? And her response I thought was a good one. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.360 That's when she said, I'd guess you'd have to speak 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.200 to my therapist because she can't even explain why she 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.640 was acting or reacting the way she was, because perhaps 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.679 it took time to put it on into context. I 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.320 do think it is interesting that when he did try 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.520 to reach out to her when Cassie's lawsuit became public, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.000 she did refuse to speak to him, and that is 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.360 telling when she had some space and time away from 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.720 all of it. But certainly that is a powerful exchange 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.560 for the jurors to hear, and she. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.040 Held her own. If you will the way he was 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.520 coming after you again, doing his job, doing what he's 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.720 supposed to do. And look, there were also some reports 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.040 from observers in the courtroom. Yes they did have to 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.680 go after her, but there were times where the defense 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.200 attorneys were respectful, they were compassionate, evil at even at times, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.040 and didn't really go after her like we have seen, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.000 yes in some case. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.200 I also thought one of her responses was also is 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.520 similar to asking, we'll have to ask my therapist. When 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.120 defense attorneys asked her how she could be around a 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.480 man who traumatized her so much, she just said, it's 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.600 called psychological abuse. I thought that was a very powerful 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:47.040 response to their questioning of her reaction to working for 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.040 and being around Demand for eight years, who she claims 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.640 did so many things to her that were so terrible 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.760 and so traumatizing. It's called psychological abuse. And that is 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.640 something we have heard from so many of the folks 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.360 who have taken the stand to testify. They all have 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.640 said similar things. They loved him because when he loved you, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:11.400 it was the highest of highs. And then when he turned, 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.320 when they say he suddenly became dark and did horrific, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:18.840 awful things, it was unexpected, but the moments of highs 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.440 were almost worth the low moments. It's hard to get 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.280 your head around, but that is what all of these 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.400 witnesses have testified to. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.280 She is. She mentioned it several times, made some reference 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.960 to being in therapy. I think it's clear she probably 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.160 has been, even for quite some time. Like she used 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.960 a couple of technical terms, it sounded like someone who 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.720 has been going through therapy. There was a along those 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.240 lines again with in terms of her having good answers, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.640 good responses, good comebacks, to where you you can't really 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.320 question her after that. Hey, it's called psychological abuse. I mean, 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.840 what do you say after that? Correct, it's a real thing. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.360 But there was another back and forth in which she 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.520 again messages up there when she showed a message, they 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.080 showed a message that says she loved Diddy with all 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.440 her heart. Again, this is the guy she said raped 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.680 her repeatedly, and she still wrote a message says she 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.680 loved him with all her heart. Defenses. He only asked 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.920 after she said, that's how I write to people in 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.680 my life. Now, I think that's fair. Some people you 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.920 get accustomed to writing stuff. Sometimes you just say best 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.920 or all my best or with love, or she was 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.760 trying to explain it that way. Does that mess up? 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.760 Well? You know, I think that even maybe someone you're 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.840 afraid of, you still want to keep in their good 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.400 graces because you know he had something over her. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.680 Maybe he could blacklister her. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.880 All of the things that so many of these witnesses 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.040 have testified to that they were afraid of what Diddy 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.560 could do to them if he turned on them. And 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.080 so perhaps when you have somebody they say, keep your 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.960 friends close, keep your enemies closer. Maybe she was just 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.280 trying to keep it all good between them, and I 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.120 can understand that, like just wanting it to all stay 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.880 okay and stay go, and so saying you know, yes, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.360 I love you with all my heart. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.880 So she tells the defense attorney that's how I write 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.120 to people in my life. He quickly equipped back, including 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.920 the person you're terrified of, And she quickly equipped back, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:19.000 especially the person I'm terrified of. She seemed to be prepared. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:23.679 I don't know how much of that is doing testimony prep. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.480 I don't know how much of that is just natural instinct. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.280 But she had answers when she knew she was going 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.560 to get questions about how could you say these wonderful 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:33.960 things about the person you say abused you. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.160 But that makes sense to me, especially the person I'm 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:37.879 terrified of. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.480 That speaks exactly to that. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.080 Keeping somebody who you're afraid of in a good place 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.760 with you so that they don't do any more damage. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.840 I can understand that. As a human being. I am 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.080 curious if the jurors ken as well. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.160 I think she did a good job of Even if 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.080 you are confused, you're wondering for a second, or how 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.000 could you do when you hear that response, I think 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.440 you can. As a human being, you can. You can 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.000 make sense of what of what she's saying. So she's 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.000 going to be back on the stand today. Miya will continue. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.000 One other nugget that came out of this trial that 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.240 was out of DC in fact, and out of the 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.679 White House. We should probably be surprised this is the 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.440 first time we're hearing Trump time in on the Diddy trial. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.280 But he didn't out of nowhere. He was asked, specifically 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.080 Robes a question, and given that Trump has been on 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.240 a bit of a pardon streak lately, we shouldn't be 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:29.560 surprised that he got this question. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:34.359 Yes, they asked him if he would consider pardoning Diddy, 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.320 And the big headline here is that he didn't rule 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.080 it out. He said he had not looked at any 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.399 of the details of the case, but that he and 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.480 Sean Diddy Combs were friends a while back, years ago. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:50.400 He said they hadn't talked recently. But he absolutely did 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.400 not say, if you read between the lines, he'd consider it. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.439 Oh, he absolutely absolutely said he said, what was it? 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.520 He said he hasn't been asked, but he said, I 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.480 know they're thinking about it, and I think they're close 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.639 to asking his words, I'm not sure where he's getting that. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.960 I asked you early. Is he just popping off at 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.359 the mouth on this, or if somebody actually asked him 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.840 he feels he's going to be asked soon. Now he 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.280 might just think, well, this thing is wrapping up, or 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.919 it's going to be a verdict soon. I don't know 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.600 what he was thinking, but I wonder if somebody's actually 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:22.960 in his ear already. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:27.640 And because this is a federal case, President Trump absolutely 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.000 could pardon Ditty if he's convicted, and he could also 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.000 take the like wipe away the charges if he wanted 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.640 to right now in the middle of the trial. If 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:41.200 he so chose he actually has the power to change 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.760 the course of this trial and the trial and certainly 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.240 change the course of Ditty's life. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:50.040 What's the one that gave Biden gave FAUSI what was that? 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.640 That was conditional? Like it goes back to a certain 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.800 like he hadn't been charged with anything, right, and he 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.919 pardoned them for stuff he ain't even been charged. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.280 Just in case Trump wanted to indict him on any thing. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.000 Biden tried to give him a blanket preemptive pardon, is 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.240 what they called it. I guess yes at that point. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.600 So yes, the parting being the pardoning powers of the 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:14.840 president are extreme, extensive and completely at his choosing. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.520 So we shall see on that. You imagine another son 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.399 of New York, right that did he could that Trump 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.040