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Speaker 1: Thirteen Days of Halloween Penance, a co production of iHeart

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Speaker 1: three D Audio Blumhouse Television and Grim and Mild from

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Speaker 1: Aaron Nankey. Headphones recommended, Listener discretion advised.

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Speaker 2: What is there to say about prison life that hasn't

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Speaker 2: been said a million times before? It is so boring.

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Speaker 3: Likes up on your feet, the same shit every.

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Speaker 4: Day you again, move along.

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Speaker 3: I imagine some people thrive on that routine.

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Speaker 4: Checkmate.

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Speaker 1: Not if I move here, checkmate, still.

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Speaker 3: Know and that it beats down those who fight back.

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Speaker 5: Checkmate.

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Speaker 6: No, that's oh darn.

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Speaker 3: They say.

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Speaker 2: The pen gets everyone eventually, either by force or attrition.

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Speaker 3: What's nuke all? My question is what are they after?

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Speaker 1: It's your turn to share today, sireen.

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Speaker 3: But I don't have anything to say.

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Speaker 5: How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 2: If they can keep us physically detained, I'm going if

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Speaker 2: they have ways to enter our minds.

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Speaker 7: Any side effects from the medication.

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Speaker 3: Makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe time to up

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Speaker 3: your dosage. What's left but the soul?

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Speaker 7: Take and receive all my liberty, my memory, my understanding,

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Speaker 7: and my entire will. All I have and all my

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Speaker 7: own You have given all to me.

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Speaker 2: I swear no matter what, I refuse to submit choice.

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Speaker 3: But I also wonder how long can I hold out?

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Speaker 2: Already I'm starting to lose track of time, Identical days

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Speaker 2: turning into identical weeks, filling identical months against a clock

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Speaker 2: and calendar that I have no reason to trust. I

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Speaker 2: wonder what is all this time doing to me? How

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Speaker 2: is it changing me?

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Speaker 5: Has something changed about you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've practically quit smoking.

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Speaker 5: Good for you.

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Speaker 2: I've started going to church at least more regularly. I noticed,

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Speaker 2: and well, I was just so angry when I got here.

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Speaker 2: I'm still angry, furious. Actually, if I could, I'd trample

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Speaker 2: those guards, break straight through the wall, burn this whole

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Speaker 2: place of the ground, and never look back.

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Speaker 5: But something's changed.

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Speaker 2: Well, that kind of rage was hurting more than it

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Speaker 2: was helping me specifically, And if the anger isn't gone,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's a little more contained.

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Speaker 7: If you were to give it a word, would it

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Speaker 7: be fair to say patience?

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Speaker 3: I hate to think that I'm just waiting around. That

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Speaker 3: makes me feel so weak.

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Speaker 7: I would say it demonstrates tremendous strength. Whoever is patient

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Speaker 7: has great understanding, But one who is quick tempered displays folly.

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Speaker 2: But understanding about what how to marchin a line, what

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Speaker 2: not to eat in the cafeteria, who to avoid contact

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Speaker 2: with if you don't want a knight stick to the gut.

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Speaker 7: Maybe a more personal understanding. Humans have an innate desire

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Speaker 7: for control over their own lives. It's a fallacy, really,

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Speaker 7: but even the sense of control can be powerful. The

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Speaker 7: freedom to make your own choices, to set your own

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Speaker 7: goals can come to define your very identity. So what

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Speaker 7: happens when that illusion of control vanishes?

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Speaker 3: You lose your mind or you grow Ah crap, do

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Speaker 3: you know what time it is?

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Speaker 5: About twelve thirty?

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Speaker 3: I think, well, I gotta get to the rec center.

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Speaker 5: Exercise can be good for the soul.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe it's just uh, I'm supposed to.

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Speaker 7: Meet someone, meet someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't keep them waiting.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, chaplain.

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Speaker 5: I hope to see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Why what's tomorrow?

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Speaker 5: Christmas? Eve?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Snap, I gotta find a gift. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Leaving the chapel means libraries on my left, TV rooms.

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Speaker 6: On my room.

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Speaker 3: Here's a weight room, the art room. I just need

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Speaker 3: to go down these stairs. Rodriguez, I'm never gonna get

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Speaker 3: used to that.

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Speaker 4: What do you think you're doing?

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Speaker 3: Uh, recreation, not like that. You're not, but I'm sure

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Speaker 3: this is the right door. That hair, my hair. What's

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Speaker 3: the last time you had a cut. Hmmm, well I

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Speaker 3: came in before Easter.

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Speaker 4: Weekend, so right, Captain has strict policies.

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Speaker 3: Mm okay, I'll get right on that.

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Speaker 4: Now with me, let go, I said I could walk, Lorena,

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Speaker 4: you got space for one more. This one here has

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Speaker 4: never seen a brush in your life.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, didn't know. I was here to impress.

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Speaker 4: Your hair is like a nest birds or spiders. I'm

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Speaker 4: afraid to look.

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Speaker 3: Then don't go. Go.

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Speaker 4: I'll take care of this one. Don't be afraid to

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Speaker 4: use a little force.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I do need a trim.

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Speaker 4: No, you needed a trim three months ago. Now, Mirena,

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Speaker 4: what you need is a miracle good thing. I'm mean. Come,

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Speaker 4: I wash first, then we gleam. So what's your style?

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Speaker 4: Are you more a pixie cot or maybe a little framing?

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Speaker 4: Give some shape to that pretty face.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not listening. I don't want you to do anything,

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Speaker 3: just a trem.

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Speaker 4: Oh, but indulge me. There must be something you want.

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Speaker 4: Come on, you can tell me.

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Speaker 3: Don't fight it.

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Speaker 4: She'll get it at it you always does do.

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Speaker 3: What I wanted before I did.

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Speaker 4: She's always right. By the time I'm done, I'll have

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Speaker 4: you a feeling all new.

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Speaker 3: Look. It's nothing personal. I just don't spend a lot

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Speaker 3: of time thinking about how I look.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Jerre one of those?

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Speaker 3: Aren't you one of those?

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Speaker 4: Here? Sit lean back?

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Speaker 3: What is that supposed to mean?

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Speaker 4: I'll change you if you sit, Let me guess you'll

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Speaker 4: turn away makeup and hair styling. And she close, saying

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Speaker 4: you're not into fashion? But nonina, no service. Is that

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Speaker 4: that's a fashion statement in itself?

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Speaker 3: No, that's not I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Deny, then I deny, but I seen you?

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Speaker 2: Oh and what because you cut someone's hair gives you

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Speaker 2: license to judge them.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot you learn when you shape someone's look.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how we present is a mask. No one

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Speaker 4: is exactly what they look like. How painfully boring. So

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Speaker 4: while they're in my chair letting me chop away at

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Speaker 4: little pieces of them, you get to drop the mask

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Speaker 4: and I listen. Like a therapist, I heals me or

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Speaker 4: no therapist. They want to fix you. I prefer to

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Speaker 4: enable better dips twenty years at the same overpriced salunge

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Speaker 4: you hear every entitled complaint. Convertible in a shop AND's

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Speaker 4: in the lakehouse, and now myn as sources out of

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Speaker 4: town and my husband is canoodling with the maid. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I always hope for something with more substance. Maybe I

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Speaker 4: hope too hard. One day I had this woman come

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Speaker 4: in sunset of her life, glory, silver hair down to

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Speaker 4: her chest. I loved it. I wanted it, oh, to

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Speaker 4: age like that, But she said it made her look witchy.

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Speaker 4: Now who could have put that idea in her head?

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Speaker 4: Turns out kids were shattering her windows with rocks.

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Speaker 5: They riding on.

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Speaker 4: Their bikes, dark of night and no one awake. Then crash,

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Speaker 4: kill the witch, they yelled, and then they were gone

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Speaker 4: just as fast because acido, poor woman. I could hear

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Speaker 4: it in her voice. No not chop it off, chop

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Speaker 4: it all off.

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Speaker 6: I don't want it anymore.

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Speaker 4: How it heard her to lie about, let's get you

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Speaker 4: in a chair.

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Speaker 3: Did you cut it off?

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Speaker 4: No, that would have been a crime. Instead, I listened

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Speaker 4: to what she really wanted here sit?

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Speaker 3: What did she say?

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Speaker 4: Nothing at first, but I pushed. I always had that gift,

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Speaker 4: you know, getting people to open up. Usually it's a

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Speaker 4: lot of cheesemay. By this time this was different. Something

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Speaker 4: in her eyes and how her lips scrunched like she

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Speaker 4: was chewing on her words. Benures and all lone and all.

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Speaker 3: I want to take those rocks.

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Speaker 4: I want to find her houses and I want to

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Speaker 4: break their bones. Al rinkled little thing. And then she left,

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Speaker 4: Lift your hair, got wrap fist around your neck.

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Speaker 3: Do you think she did it?

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Speaker 8: How could she?

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Speaker 4: No? That would have been insane. At least that's what

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Speaker 4: I thought, And it's what got me through the night,

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Speaker 4: because as soon as I got home, there was a

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Speaker 4: stamped in my brain. Horrible, horrible headache that whole week,

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Speaker 4: actually my last week on the outside of horrible.

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Speaker 3: Oh careful, what the scalp?

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Speaker 4: This is nothing? They after another woman came rolled out

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Speaker 4: a magazine and pointed at a model wanted her seventies

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Speaker 4: disconneon prom emitra. I'm divine at what I do, but

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Speaker 4: my conscience wouldn't let me, so I tried to wear

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Speaker 4: her somewhere safe. And you know what she said to me.

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Speaker 4: If I wanted safe, I wouldn't put nails in my salad.

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Speaker 3: What I can't believe she met that literally.

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Speaker 4: I didn't either until she smiled, teas cracked and chipped

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Speaker 4: gums blead. She needed a dentist, not a perm. I

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Speaker 4: don't know why she told me, But then the nasia

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Speaker 4: first in a toilet, feeling like there was a hole

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Speaker 4: in my got. I think one of the other girls

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Speaker 4: ended up giving her a PERM. I didn't care anymore.

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Speaker 4: I'd swear there was something in the air that week,

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Speaker 4: but all the crazy seemed to ask for me, And

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Speaker 4: the next one was even worse.

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Speaker 3: Worse than eating nails.

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Speaker 4: There's always worse, Melina, and it's never who you expect.

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Speaker 4: Tilt your head for me, wouldn't you wait?

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Speaker 3: How about are you taking off?

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Speaker 4: Really had to get either? Don't you want to know.

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Speaker 3: Who came next? Just a trim? Got it?

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Speaker 6: Mm?

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Speaker 4: Now? This girl so thin and twiggy, it was like

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Speaker 4: she floated in on a breeze Carolina with her heart

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Speaker 4: on the eye. That's how she signed in in for

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Speaker 4: a trim, just like you. She didn't make so much

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Speaker 4: as a sweek. For the full hour, I could tell

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Speaker 4: it was something heavy, something ugly, building up. But who

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Speaker 4: am I to pry? If a client wants silence. I

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Speaker 4: gave them silence. I was nearly done styling her before

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Speaker 4: she finally spoke, turned to me with her dull eyes

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Speaker 4: and asked if I was married. No, no, no, I said,

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Speaker 4: I love myself too much to share. She liked that.

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Speaker 3: She was jealous.

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Speaker 4: What about you, I asked, and she went quiet again.

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Speaker 4: She jamed me in and whispered, I'm going to kill

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Speaker 4: my husband. I just haven't figured out.

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Speaker 3: How I was frozen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you say back? Don't do it?

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Speaker 3: Good luck?

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Speaker 4: I couldn't tell if she was kidding, Or maybe I could,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't want to admit it. It's not like

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Speaker 4: she waited for me to react. She just got up,

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Speaker 4: dropped a tip on the counter and left.

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Speaker 3: Or was it a good tip?

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Speaker 4: Best of my life? But not even close to worth it?

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Speaker 4: My fever that night was like a.

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Speaker 8: Caulduring fluids, boiling skin, melting every nerve on fire, or

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Speaker 4: Will you kin me? Chris? Good luck, Si, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: You know that. I didn't want to be I didn't

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Speaker 4: Clado ruined my upholstery and pushed the absolute limit on

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Speaker 4: He just kept going, unloading repulsive details after details. Even

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Speaker 3: How long were you there?

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Speaker 4: Not long? Grass, sadios? I suppose eventually somebody listened to

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Speaker 3: What gave it? The way they dragged you here too?

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Speaker 4: Dragged me? No, they offered the help, said they could

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Speaker 3: Why would you choose to come here? We can't leave?

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Speaker 4: What makes you think I want to free meals, free

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Speaker 4: You mean? Though? I still hear people's secrets sometimes, but

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Speaker 3: But we'll see. So then you have heard things while

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Speaker 4: Of course, stranger and stranger every day.

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Speaker 4: How oh no, no, no, I do what you're doing?

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Speaker 4: Do you think knowing more is always better? But you're

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Speaker 3: What do you mean hurt me?

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Speaker 4: What I mean, Sayuri, is how will you handle the

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 3: While I was here? Were you? Is she ready yet?

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Speaker 4: Almost? There's no rushing beauty. Take a look in the mirror.

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Speaker 4: Do you like who you see?

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Speaker 3: That's not me?

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Speaker 4: Clad o ca see? Like I said, when it comes

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Speaker 4: to my work, I'm divine, don't worry your secrets safe

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Speaker 3: What do you mean.

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Speaker 4: Now? Are you done? Yes? I'm done? But out you

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Nighty night o?

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Speaker 3: Damsa same shit every day?

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Speaker 3: Did she leave a bobby bit in my hair?

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Speaker 3: I thought we had a date. I know, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I got caught out for looking up haggard was the implication,

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Speaker 2: I tried, but I couldn't get out. It looks nice, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess I've never liked to be fussed over, and

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Speaker 3: Can I fuss over you for a second. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: I wish we didn't always meet like this, these damn

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Speaker 1: Editing and sound designed by Trevor Young, featuring the voices

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