WEBVTT - Ep. 216: Roasting Coffee In The CIA 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.360 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.600 can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.160 the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.440 Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. Nor 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:36.599 where you stand with on X? All right? Everyone? Uh 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.680 take two on on Uh you know, not not not 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.519 making the show the way we're supposed to make it. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:48.000 We're all sitting there, all tight, smelling each other across 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:53.400 the podcast studio table. We're remote again. Uh so Quarantine 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.080 episode Part two. But I got a piece of good news. Um, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.360 I just got an email about this this morning that 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.400 if you know, but the Trump administration has done a 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.840 number of things around access enhancement. Um, and that could 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:16.240 be the thousand things right. Access is really popular. All 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.200 people that hunting, fish and recreate are like the idea 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.160 of access or voice the idea that they like access, 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.680 and the access could mean different stuff, right. Um. So 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.960 I've heard people take the access argument being like access 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.560 enhancement and use that as a way to say we 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.600 should carve up our wilderness areas with roads in order 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.680 to give us more access in our trucks, so you 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.440 can take in different ways, but this is a good 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.480 access where they got a plan. There's rolling out a 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.160 new plan here which would uh it's a proposal which 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.400 would expand hunting and fishing opportunities across more than two 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:01.240 point three million acres at nine in the seven National 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.800 Wildlife refuges. So there's there's always been a lot of 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:09.079 refuges where you can hunting fish or hunt and or fish, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.440 and they're trying to roll that out and also rolling 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.920 out pushing the roll out hunting and fishing opportunities on 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.160 some fish hatchery lands. So it's just like taking existing 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:24.720 lands and getting it so you can use it for 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.160 you know, pursuing your activities in places where maybe you 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.080 can't but it doesn't really make sense while you're not 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.400 allowed to, uh what the what they look at is 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.120 they look at distinct new hunting and fishing opportunities. The 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:43.480 way they define this is it be a species at 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.760 a field station in a state. So for instance, if 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.600 you opened up um you had a refuge, and a 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.040 refuge had a bunch of large mouth bass on it, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.480 and you opened up the refuge in Delaware for large 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:02.239 mouth bass. You're creating a distinct new hunting and fishing opportunity, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.079 meaning uh, at a specific refuge, you're allowed to catch 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.480 a specific fish in a specific state. They're projecting that 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:16.280 this proposed rule would create nine hundred distinct new hunting 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.760 and fishing opportunities. Uh, on top of last year they 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.440 you know, we had access expansion at one point four 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.840 million acres. Now onbably the last guy to say that 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:33.320 that everything that's uh, you know, every administration has got 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.280 that stings that does right, and it's things that doesn't 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:40.160 do right. But I in terms of access enhancement, in 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.600 making areas that you previously weren't able to hunt and 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.960 fish open for hunting and fishing, these guys doing a 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.200 pretty good job there. We've got a guy. I just 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.680 got a bumper sticker. The guy sent me that says 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.960 ice fishing is not a crime and it's meant to 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.920 look like the Yeah, I remember the skateboarding was not 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:03.560 a crime, buddy Maya op My mom's BEATIX Skylark era 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:10.280 probably like eighty eight had one of those stickers on it. Yeah. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:15.040 This guy, he's connected somehow to Harvard University. He invited 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.080 us one on our live tour. Our dates keep getting 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:22.760 postponed because of COVID nineteen. Uh. He had he already 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.159 had a ticket to go to our show and are 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.679 our show in the Boston area, and he was inviting 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.880 us that we could come tour Harvard. But he was 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.800 pointing out that he had to make ice fishing is 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:39.400 not a crime bumper stickers because ice fishing is so 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.120 unfamiliar to the people in his area that but when 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.919 people see someone out on the ice, they their first 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:50.560 impulses to call the police. I haven't dug into it, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.560 but I thought it was funny. I almost put it 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.360 on the I was gonna put it on the podcast 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.560 studio window, but we're not there. Some neat to do that. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.760 I don't know what the hell do with the thing now. Uh, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.839 follow up on another question, go ahead, and I'm just 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.120 gonna say, minds on my freezer. That's where my sticker 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:11.720 collection lives these days, on your home freez. Yeah, maybe 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.920 that's what because no one's gonna take your damn freezer 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.320 from you. This hasn't gone that far yet. Another quick 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.120 follow up on a past conversation. We were talking about Yadi. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.520 Who are we talking about? A dude told a story 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:30.200 about his dad's blood transfusion, and I was I was 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.479 incredulous about how could you give someone fourteen units of 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.279 blood when the human body, like your body, only holds 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.400 eight to twelve quote units of blood. So how do 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.360 you give someone fourteen units of blood? It's like you'd 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.240 over they'd overflow in it all run out their ears. Yeah, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.880 which is what are you talking? Because a couple of 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.520 people wrote wrote in to clarify that. Yeah, so what 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.480 was he There was a good analogy that someone used. Well, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.920 a surgeon, a surgeon road in, he's done he's done 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:06.680 a lot of trauma surgery and uh, he was saying, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.320 it's real common to use that much blood. And they 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.839 call they use what's called a massive transfusion protocol. And 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.839 he said, they keep bringing in little red Coleman lunchable 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:21.800 type coolers containing a combination of packed red blood cells, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.960 fresh frozen plasma, and platelets. There's six units in a 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.599 cooler and you just keep pumping those things in until 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:35.159 the bleeding stops. And he says, his personal high, he 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.920 had a patient the guy actually lived. He ran. Uh, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.880 he'd been shot in the gut with a forty five 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.160 and the surgeon ran seventy two units of blood through 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.480 that dude whoa he had injuries to his a ord, 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.080 to his inferior vena cava, which I'll know what that is, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.640 his left renal artery, which i'all know what that is, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.599 plus some other stuff. The whole time they're trying to 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.920 fix him. Um like when you take your you have 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.400 to like take a valve off or whatever. I'm blood 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.600 vessels and uh yeah, dude bled so much that they 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.320 gave him what is it again, your body holds eight 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.200 to twelve And they ran seventy two units of blood 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.240 through the dude after getting shot by forty five a 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.320 doctor named Sam out of Amarillo, Texas. This other guy 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.600 wrote it on the blood thing he had to say. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.880 He talks about how he's a real he's a good 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.920 blood donor, and he's got a kid who has down 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.960 syndrome and they had uh some other complicating health problems 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.720 and the kid had to have an open heart surgery. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.080 The he's got good insurance, he said. The itemized bill 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.640 for the surgery came out to two hundred thousand dollars. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.600 And he went through the itemized list and they had 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.000 a single unit of blood ready for him in a cooler, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.400 a little lunch cooler iglue lunch cooler that the kid 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.080 never even needed because the surgery went well apparently, But 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.560 on the itemized list that unit of blood that you 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.120 donate when you need it back, it comes out of 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.480 price tag of eight D twenty seven bucks. I was 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:20.480 just wondering how much one of those was. Yeah, the 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.000 a couple more good things we were complaining. I think 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.400 that cal was complaining about this, like with all these 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.840 questions going on right now, like what's an essential service 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.760 and not an essential service? And um, we're talking about 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.240 how could it be that you could close like a 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.319 fishing access site down, but a liquor store could remain open, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.000 Like who determines what's serious or what's essential? And how 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:48.440 can booze be essential? And a social worker wrote in, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.360 and he says he works in addiction services. He says 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:56.199 when people detox it could be real ugly, and detoxing 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.920 often requires a hospital bed. With anticipation ations of hospital 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.359 beds being in short supply, we don't want folks detoxing 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:12.800 right now. Right now, we're focusing on harm reduction, basically, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.360 trying to help people stay safe while drinking. They'll sort 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:22.680 out the addiction issues down the road. Um. He also 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:27.480 pointed out a revenue issue and trying to minimize the 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.840 economic chaos. Right. Uh, you know a lot of restaurants, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.360 alcohol pays the bills or I'm sorry, you know, um, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.200 beer pays the bills. Liquors allows stay open or whatever 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:42.160 that mantra is in the restaurant business, meaning restaurants without 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.559 alcohol sales business gets very difficult. Um. And in trying 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.959 to minimize the chaos here, that can be helpful to 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.760 allow restaurants to do to go booze and things in 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:02.480 order to help them stay solvent right and keep food flowing. Um, 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.600 in a time of like very stressed situations. Yeah, we 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.920 heard about that too, right, because I think cal had 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.000 included that and his his statement there that's one of 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.600 the states had thrown that in and he didn't understand why, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.240 but obviously that's why. Yeah. I'm just dude, Yeah, just 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.040 dude was writing in about that and the ongoing debate. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.360 I'll interrupt these updates here and tell what we have 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.960 on the beautiful and lovely Evan Halfer right was like 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.600 how you say it? Hay for from Black Rifle coffee 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.199 company we met. I was at the I was m seeing. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.240 It turns out I don't feel like. My wife pointed 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.560 this out to me, that I'm not a UM. She 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.720 feels that I'm not gonna make it into the MC 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:53.040 Hall of Fame. UM. Everyone has their talents, she pointed out, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.120 but she doesn't know that I'm a gifted m C. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.520 I'm like a functional MC, like I get done but 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.160 I don't, but I get it done without a lot 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.880 of fanfare. Anyways, I was m seeing at the National 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.439 Wild Turkey Convention or the you know, the National Wild 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.640 Turkey Annual big blowout Convention in Nashville, and I met 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.079 Evan hay For there and then we became kind of 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:21.520 like email friends recently. Yeah, yeah, that was that was 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.400 a great That was the first time I've been out there, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.560 So that was a that was a great event. It 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.600 was huge. I didn't realize it was that big. It's huge. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.280 Uh did you take in any of my m seeing 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.840 or you just backstage and doing stuff the whole time? No, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.800 I was. I was down in the crowd. I was 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.439 taking in the m C. I thought, you did you think? 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.840 Did you think to yourself, man, this young man this 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.360 young man really has m seeing dialed. Yeah, I was. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.160 That's exactly what I was thinking the entire time. I 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.000 didn't I didn't think about much else. I was just 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.960 this is impressive, Steve, what your wife say? Your weak 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.640 points were weak points that I didn't do a lot 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.440 of the um. I didn't do a lot of the 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:09.600 really sort of corny drumming up, you know, like drumming 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.080 up enthusiasms. It was more I did more of it. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:17.880 Was it felt more transactional. That was her, That was 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.520 her takeaway. Uh, we have, Evan, we have now that 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.520 we've brought you into the conversation here we're doing our 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.640 run downs. We have an ongoing debate and you probably 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.600 have some feedback on this because you you spent time 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.679 in the Special Forces, and we'll talk about that. But 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.280 we have an ongoing debate about whether or not a 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:41.240 real man or a real woman can wear flip flops, like, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.960 because my buddy Ronnie Bam feels that you're not ready 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:49.040 to defend your family m in flip flops and feels 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.320 it like he's like when I have flip flops on. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.760 I asked myself, what if there's a volcano, what would 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.199 that mean from my feet? What would that mean for 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.760 my family? And so we have lot of people right 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:02.959 in Like we had a guy one time his wife 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.840 got assaulted by a rat and he was able to 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.960 kill the rat with a flip flop. But because he 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.800 was he could get it off quick. Yeah, this guy 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.920 just got caught up in the earthquake. There he's in boys, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.240 he got caught up in the earthquake. He was running 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.040 around his house and his flip flops, and he got 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.520 to worrying about the structural integrity of his house and 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.600 went the book outside and on his way outside tripped 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.400 in his flip flops and then made it outside. And 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.600 here he is. The world's falling apart. He thinks his 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:36.840 house is gonna fall down, you know, the Yellowstone Volcano 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.640 might erupt. And he's outside and his flip flops now, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.719 and it made him think that this is not an 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.800 appropriate footwear for American living. I should I should put 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.520 I should put it to you. Yeah, I would tend 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.079 to agree with that. I know a couple of guys 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:56.160 out there that they always point out that the Afghans 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.680 have been fighting wars and in flip flops for since 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.319 the d S so when when they talk about combat footwear, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.840 they think about the Afghans fighting, you know, the Soviets, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.320 and you know, you've got all these other factions in 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.760 Central Asia that have been fighting worse for decades and 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.199 flip flops. So they're always like, it's combat footwear. It's 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.440 kind of a joke. Actually, it's it's kind of a joke. 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.760 I it's interesting that you brought that up, because it 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:27.600 is a debate even internally. Whereas if I wear a 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.560 flip flop, I'm typically I know that it's it's because 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.160 I'm in a boat or I'm in the water and 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:39.600 it's recreation time. I don't typically wear them as casual footwear. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.520 But my partner, Matt, he wears them every day. I've 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:47.440 actually barely seen him wear shoes. So it's an internal 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.720 debate over here too. Did you guys have a company policy, no, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.440 no flip flops. No, we have a company policy which 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.600 is um carry your firearm most of the time. But 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.680 that's typically the only company policy we were Really if 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.640 you want to do it in flip flouts, that's your business. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.120 You do it, you know, And I think most guys 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.520 are more concerned with uh, you know, how how how 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.560 fast can they react, And so they try to become 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.720 as proficient as they can in their footwear. That's kind 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.680 of their mentality. So they wear them all the time 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.560 just to just to just to stay to stay trained, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.960 to stay trained, stay trained. Yeah, just stay trained, stay 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.520 in the staying the mindset, stay in the mindset. Another 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:33.280 thing we had, we recently had the Turkey Doctor on UM. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.040 That's a great show. What was the name of that episode, 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.520 do you guys remember gobble your ass off? Was that 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.160 it sounds Go back and listen to that one after that. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.760 Jared Oakley for he's kind of a friend of the show. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.920 His brother, he's a conservationist, works with meal deer. His 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.600 brother works with Mexican gray wolves. Anyways, he wrote in 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.640 you saw about hunting in the Black Hills of Wyoming, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.680 he found what looked like a bear ship, like a 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.840 large bore not b o a r like not like 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:09.000 a large bore male, I mean large bore like large caliber. Yeah, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.640 at large caliber bearship. And he got to inspect in 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.040 it as one does, and saw that it had a 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:21.200 white coating on it, that white frosty coating that you 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.000 see on bird ship, which I always think resembles that 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:28.080 the white mold that you get on good Italian salami. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.320 But he says the biggest bird shit you'd ever seen. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.560 Um he got talking later to an expert on turkeys. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.120 Don't know if you guys ever heard of John Hutto. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.160 I think I don't know how he pronounces his name, Hutte. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.360 I think he's that guy that lived with turkeys. He 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.440 raised up turkeys and learned how to communicate with him, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.000 and he talks about that. He believes there are It 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.440 really changed his viewpoint on hunting a fair bit. I 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.280 think right now he's living with some mule deer, but 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.360 he lived with turkeys for a long time and learned. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:02.400 He he he feels that he's identified twenty seven vocalizations 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.919 that turkey's make or something. Uh. He's got a lot 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.400 of interesting stories about turkeys, but learned to communicate with them, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.240 and you kind of gotta watch his own story of it. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.159 H u t t O. Interestingly, he's married to the 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.159 singer Rita Coolidge, but he he was Jared Oakleff was 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.399 asking about these giant turkeys, which he called ask goblins, 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.879 and it says that when a hen sitting on her nest. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.920 It seems that they don't want to defecate. I should 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.359 ask a Turkey doctor about this. But they don't want 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.879 to defecate near their nest because it increases the odor, right, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.000 and it could be attractive. It could attract predators. So 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.720 they build up these giant deuces and then wander off 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.879 and drop these giant duces, which are the size of 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.680 bear scats. What do you think of that? You? Honest? 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.400 It might be Joe. That's what I said, right. Oh, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.800 I thought you were saying John My bad. Oh yeah, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.119 I could have said that Jared oak Leaf was the 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:05.760 guy our friend wrote in. Yeah, Joe, hut toel, I'm sorry. Um, 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.960 sounds very possible. It sounds like what I would do 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.200 if I was sitting on a nest, hiding, not wanting 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.520 to go off, just to drop a deuce, stay low key, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.760 hold hold it for a few days. Yeah. Another We 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.639 talked about four, but another word for that would be 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.320 to take a growler. Um. You know. We another quick 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.760 quick note before we get started here. No, two things 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.560 and and one of these is gonna be great for Evan. Uh. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:33.840 The first one, I don't know if this is up 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.840 Evans Aali or not. But you know, we talked a 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:43.360 lot about Bergman's rule or Bergman's principle. Uh, fill the engineer, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.720 you know Bergman's principles. I don't know. So when you're 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.679 when you're working on the shows, you don't you're not 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.800 actually listening to anything anybody's saying. I think that Bergman's 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:59.080 maybe hasn't been mentioned since Phil started. I do not. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.760 I do not recall ever hearing about it. Okay, So 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.840 maybe you're right, or maybe Yannia, Maybe Yanni's right. For 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.840 anyone who's ever wondered, why is it that white tailed 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.040 deer in Florida are real dinky, and white tailed deer 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:18.920 in say Alberta have big, huge bodies. Um, why is that? Well, 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.439 Bergman's rule is this thing or Bergman's principle is this 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.200 thing that mammals when you look at the mammal's range, okay, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.639 and you imagine it's range from north to south. When 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.720 you look at an animal's range, you will find that 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.880 within its range, it will tend to have a bigger 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.520 body the more north you go. So within its range, 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.720 smaller specimens live in the south, Larger specimens live in 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.760 the north. We're talking about body size here. Uh, it's believed. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.119 Like a way to explain this is that has to 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:57.960 do with heat retention and heat dissipation, being that the 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:06.520 a let's say this, a two pound person has less 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.720 surface area, So a two pound human has less surface 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:17.080 area than a fifty pound human um, meaning the measurement 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.040 of your body that's exposed to the air relative to 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:25.160 the mass of the body is less. So those bodies 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:30.359 are better able to retain body heat. When in the 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:35.560 South where it's hotter, smaller bodies tend to have greater 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:41.280 surface areas, so they have greater ability to shed uh, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.080 greater ability to shed body heat. And someone pointed out, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.240 as much as I like talking about Bergman's rule, he 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:50.800 pointed out, there's also Allan's rule. And Allen's rule is interesting. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.240 I had never heard of it. It's the animals have 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:59.280 longer extremities and hot climates. You take the antelope, jack 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.199 rabbit and think about that, and what's interesting there is 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.199 it points out that I think it's true that the 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:12.040 mule dear defies Bergman's rule, that the mule dear. There's 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.000 a lot of confusion where you have some larger specimens 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.160 of mule deer and more southerly latitudes, and so it's 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.520 an exception to Bergman's rule. But I think when you 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.119 look at their ears, I think that they addhere to 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:31.959 Alan's rule um in terms of length of ear and 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:38.520 how much you're putting out for heat dissipation. Last one, 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:44.000 this is the one where Evan can feel helpful. We 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.640 had a debate. We've been having a debate that goes on, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:51.119 uh where we're talking about accidental discharges. And even if 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.359 I'm not mistaken, in the military, they trained you up. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.920 I know in the Marines, they pound it into your head. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.360 There's no such thing as an accidental discharge. Now, it's 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:04.439 negligent discharge. Okay. A guy's a guy decided to challenge that. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.360 And he's from the he's from the Air Force. Well, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:12.120 of course, okay, we'll hear him out. Hear him out. Okay. 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:17.000 They're on the firing line. They were getting ready to deploy, 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.800 and they were going through some tactical exercises. They were 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.520 firing M sixteens and they had fired dozens of rounds 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:31.200 in the last few minutes. Barrels are hot. Yep. They 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.880 finished another round of shooting, but still have loaded rifles. 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.760 The range in structure tells everyone to point the rifles 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.640 down to the ground and down range, but one guy 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:42.840 didn't get the down range part and only got the 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.040 down to the ground part. All of a sudden, bouch 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.159 gunshot goes off. He looks over and a guy just 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.840 falls down in a way that he thinks the guy 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:58.280 just somehow killed himself or killed someone, killed their neighbor. 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.280 But it turns out he'd only shot himself in the 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.600 foot and then and then instantly passed out. Is why 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.040 he looked like he was why he went down so hard. 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.880 Everybody laid their weapons on the ground to give first aid. 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.159 His rifle, which was now a few feet away on 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:20.479 the gravel and pointed down range, went off again on 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:25.000 its own, and pointed out that it turns out the 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:30.840 weapon had cooked off around the barrel, got so hot 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.200 it ignited the round without trigger pull. Right, they found 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.120 the cartridges. They did not have dents in the primer, 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.000 but there was a bulge where it had been pressed 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.240 against the bolt. Right, the pressure of the round going 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.720 off on its own had pushed the brass into the 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.199 hole on the bolt where the firing pin lives. So 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:56.520 actually an inverted dimple m hmm. So he says, basically, 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.280 put that in your pipe and smoke it when it 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:02.080 comes down to negligent discharge. But he points this out 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.760 just reminds you watch where your muzzles are pointed at 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:14.280 all times. Yeah, kind of right. So, Uh, there's something 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:20.359 called the negligent discharge. And obviously, when you don't point 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.800 your weapon at anything, you don't seek to destroy it, right, 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.440 That's that's one of the rules of handling a firearm. 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.200 So you never pointed in anywhere but a safe direction. 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.399 So he was false and that because he's pointing it 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:37.480 at his foot. Uh. Two, I've I've heated a lot 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:42.560 of barrels in my day, Like I've sent hundreds of 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:49.000 thousands of rounds down range, and that doesn't happen very often. However, 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.359 it is something that as the training n c O, 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.359 the guy that the non commissioned officer that's in charge 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.480 of your block of training, they have to be conscious 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.639 of how many rounds are be you put through the 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:05.119 barrels and what time frame. So I would say the 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.520