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Speaker 1: Is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of this special edition

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Speaker 2: of The Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network and

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We are live from the Steelers camp

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Speaker 2: practice here.

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Speaker 3: Is this still training camp?

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Speaker 2: We call it that?

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Speaker 3: Or what do we kind of know?

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Speaker 2: What this is? They joint practice against the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: here at Akrashuer Stadium. We get both teams offenses working

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Speaker 2: against their defenses here on both ends here little inside

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Speaker 2: run stuff and the Steelers offense dominating the line of scrimmage. Yes,

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Speaker 2: with their first units.

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Speaker 3: So apparently you can pass too, because they actually I

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Speaker 3: seen a pass or two. It's on strictly inside run.

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Speaker 3: Keep you honest. I think it's noteworthy that Fraser out

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Speaker 3: there snapping the ball to Wilson. You know, take that

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Speaker 3: for whatever you want. And we were just talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, how tempers get want and fired up, and

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Speaker 3: you know McDermott, I guess said something along the lines

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Speaker 3: of if you're get in a fight, you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: kicked out. Well, there was some boys being boys there

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Speaker 3: after the snap there, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: it's because Buffalo's D line's going backwards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers just shoving them around here a little bit.

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Speaker 2: The first two runs by Nausea Harris and Jalen Warren

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Speaker 2: both were big gainers.

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Speaker 3: And they're not tackling to the ground, but they would

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Speaker 3: have been big gainers no matter what, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's another nice run there.

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Speaker 3: They're just yeah, they're winning at the line of ceiling

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Speaker 3: things off well, the Pittsburgh offense we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm watching the other end here and the

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Speaker 2: Bills their offense not necessarily running the ball all that

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Speaker 2: effectively here in.

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Speaker 3: These say I haven't watched as much of Steeler D

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Speaker 3: but I think they've been holding up pretty well.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that, though, Matt, is the

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Speaker 2: fact that to Steelers are used to the physical practices.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering not too. Is this a different tempo

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Speaker 3: than Buffalo's used to. We have no way of knowing,

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Speaker 3: but I do know the Steelers practice as physically as anyone,

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Speaker 3: and this is not unusual for them. You know, this

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Speaker 3: could be something that the Bills are not accustomed to

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We'll see taking a deep shot out of it.

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Speaker 2: Get through the flag there. So that was Scotty Miller

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Speaker 2: down down the inside the play action, Yeah, down inside

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Speaker 2: to two off a play action double cover, but draws

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Speaker 2: a uh draws a pass interference penalty.

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Speaker 3: Defense did a real nice job to you know, keeping

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Speaker 3: the I think it's cook bottled up there well behind

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, you know, not let him go

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Speaker 3: anywhere too. So Steelers looking pretty good right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I was Ray Davis actually carrying them

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Speaker 2: on practice session. I like Ray Davis.

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Speaker 3: I did too. Yeah. It's tough low, you know, bowling

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Speaker 3: ball type guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like Benny Snell, but maybe with a

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Speaker 2: little bit more juice, I.

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Speaker 3: Say, a lot more juice. Yeah, I like him too.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a real good comparison. That run in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bells getting the best of it on that run.

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Speaker 2: That was a saw a guard pole around there, and

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Speaker 2: he just didn't I don't think he got there quite.

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Speaker 3: The time, get there in time. Yeah, But that was

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Speaker 2: That was the third team in it too.

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Speaker 3: Play action A linebacker comes free would have been a sack.

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Speaker 3: Of course. They don't sack Tribisky on the play, and

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Speaker 3: then Trubisky lets one fly that was broken up by

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Speaker 2: Nice Steeler defensive play too. Yeah, we've never seen that before.

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Speaker 2: Trubisky having a pass broken.

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Speaker 3: Up, right, it was a little shock. They were so

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Speaker 2: Got Wilson in there. Now a little handoff and again

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Speaker 2: another asshole, assholehole. It's just blowing holes open here against

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Speaker 2: this bit, and that suffs real.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what happens if the line of scrimmage is real?

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Speaker 3: I mean after he hits the hole, who's to say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't mean he's going to take everyone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean these are massive holes, massive holes. Man,

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Speaker 2: Michael P. Wrighting with that carry just blowing through it there.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't touched until he's about ten yards down the field.

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Speaker 3: So I think it was Lee that blew the one

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Speaker 3: up on the other side too. I have not seen

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Speaker 3: a lot of success from the Bills run game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now another throw deeper went up and got it,

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Speaker 2: didn't come and bounce yep. Pushed out of gancerc throw

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Speaker 2: gave the receiver an opportunity to make the play, just

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Speaker 3: Bills are Bills are really working on their outside zone

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Speaker 3: game and Steelers are stringing that out and making those

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Speaker 2: The speed very little. Yeah, the speed of this defense,

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Speaker 2: and again that was something Andy Widel talked about in

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Speaker 2: his press conference that he held before before this session began. Uh,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers assistant GM was talking about how they wanted

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Speaker 2: to improve their speed going into this offseason, and they

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Speaker 2: feel like they did that at both the second and

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Speaker 3: I'm glad addressed it because we've we've brought that up

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Speaker 3: quite a bit and it's obvious that was apparent. Every

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Speaker 3: receiver they got was a speed guy. But really the

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Speaker 3: back seven on defense was where it needed it. S

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Speaker 3: D line though again again in this drill, have been

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Speaker 3: quite impressive and same with the old line there. They're

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Speaker 3: winning both line to scrimmage from what I'm seeing here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I haven't seen is is Cam Hayward been

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Speaker 2: out there working.

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Speaker 3: I haven't noticed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is. Okay, Yeah, no, TJ Watt, No,

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward but seamal, who's out there, Queen's out there,

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Speaker 2: some of the guys that have rested before. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you know, two of your presumed better players not duitness,

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Speaker 3: All right. I think we now have only one thing

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Speaker 3: to watch. Oh good, that would be nice. Well this

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Speaker 3: is a little punt. Oh okay, we'll get to the

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Speaker 3: special teams there.

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Speaker 2: You're special teams.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so good, break off.

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Speaker 2: To do some of that. I like what I've seen

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Speaker 3: I too. I like the tempo of it all. I

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Speaker 3: and more NFL like than practice, like you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, and you've got officials out there. If

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Speaker 2: Much banging, yeah, you're getting a flag. Yeah, so there's

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Speaker 3: Nobody's giving you easy releases or you know, easy pass

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Speaker 3: So now, I think this has been a really useful

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Speaker 3: practice thus far, and they're just getting warmed up. Really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder so right now the Bills are working

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Speaker 2: their punter or their punting unit here. The Steelers have uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, the return team out there, and they actually

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Speaker 3: I think they're coming harder too. They still the machine,

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Speaker 3: uh the machine okay, yeah, but this is an opportunity

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Speaker 3: protection though. Yeah, that was a real pass rush trying

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Speaker 2: You also got your jammers out there, Yeah, working on

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Speaker 3: And it's live like it's a game too. Again, you

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Speaker 3: don't you won't see jammers ride guys deep into the sidelines,

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, in practice against your own team, or

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Speaker 3: rush the punter like you're trying to block it. But

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Speaker 3: I think that's what they're doing here. We've only seen

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Speaker 3: one rep, but it looked like full speed to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Eleven eleven, which again is very beneficial, no question, you know,

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Speaker 2: fill some of those spots. Yeah, you know, you're they're

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Speaker 2: searching for some guys here. So every opportunity that you

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Speaker 3: I honestly believe like these jammer reps or these rush

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Speaker 3: or two days from now. Yeah, I mean they're they're live.

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Speaker 2: I mean well, and the other thing about it, Matt,

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Speaker 2: is you get more of them.

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Speaker 3: You get to go over and over and over. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a jammer and there's I don't

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Speaker 3: how many of those reps do you get in a game?

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Speaker 3: Maybe four or five, I don't know. Maybe they want

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Speaker 3: I mean, they might only punt the ball five times,

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Speaker 3: Who knows, it's hard about half for five. But you know,

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Speaker 3: now you're just going over and over and over.

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Speaker 2: These are valuable, absolutely, and uh, you know see why

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Speaker 2: teams are doing a lot of these joint practice. It

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Speaker 2: also gives you an opportunity to test the guy's stamming

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Speaker 3: Running down on a punt is not easy if you're

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Speaker 3: a gunner or a jammer. Boo boo, and catch them.

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Speaker 3: BA will be good too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little fumble on that one.

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Speaker 3: There was that Austin. It looks like it hard to

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Speaker 3: tell all the jersey up. I think that is it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that Scottie Miller was. Austin is out

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Speaker 2: there now and he's going to be the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know again the whole Ques Watkins is a

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Speaker 3: bad punt returner. Yeah, he sure looks like he is.

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Speaker 3: But he's not gonna be the guy. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: may not even be active on game day, or.

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Speaker 2: A Steeler for that matter, might be and be on

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Speaker 2: the roster right right, we'll see where they. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's probably you probably put him on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: If he's not, I would imagine he hasn't be employed

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Speaker 2: That he is an NFL receiver. He's done some good

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Speaker 2: things in the league. Punt returning not.

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Speaker 3: No, no, but they are number one punt returners out

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Speaker 3: there now and he's the one you count on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you do need.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if the Steelers will be do punt team next.

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Speaker 2: I would think so.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that. I would imagine the mere image

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Speaker 3: type practice session. Yeah, yeah, I would think so.

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Speaker 2: But to your point that you always talk about the

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Speaker 2: guys who are out here on these units, this punt

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Speaker 2: first team punt unit, particularly the protection stuff. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 2: those guys are probably making the roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's something it's a little easier to tell

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Speaker 3: Advantage holes in protection. Yeah. Right, So now we are

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Speaker 2: Here and once he immediately he's out of Say Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's not that's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: Not a good rep there by either guy, either guy.

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Speaker 3: They got manipulated and pushed exactly where you didn't want

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Speaker 3: I'd say better by Rush. Watts wasn't bad. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: He tossed somebody to the ground there at the end

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Speaker 3: They drove him out of bounds. But he kept fighting,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now that was a directional kick as well, to

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Speaker 2: It's a nice end over it kitch you can you

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Speaker 3: He had a really interesting end over end over kick,

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Speaker 2: Like you're just giving the guy nowhere to get, nowhere

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that one is that that drill is

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Speaker 2: And we are back live at Steelers joint practice with

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills here today. I'm Dale Lolli. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. We're at Akrosser Stadium here and boy

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Speaker 2: that just opened up there for Russell Wilson and obviously

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Speaker 3: But but still you eluded a rusher and just took

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing some they're doing some situational work here,

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Speaker 3: No, they're running their stuff against the defense that they

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Speaker 3: The play before this one he threw this side arm

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. Now we get justin Fields out there

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Speaker 2: And the beauty of the beauty of this is to

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the first preseason game where you're

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Speaker 2: Nickel or dime? You know, nickel ware based against us,

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Speaker 3: And if with the bills, it's always got to be Nickel. Yeah, true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh yeah, so it gives it gives a

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Speaker 3: That is very beneficial. I'm not shocked, but I am

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we see Mike Tomlin out there at midfield

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Speaker 2: He's just going back.

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Speaker 3: flips tips around watching one side, then flip watches the other.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's the to be the case, because

439
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 2: the Bill's offense down there running another play here before

440
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers got there.

441
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 3: Because they're going to fool huddles like this, like it's

442
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 3: a real game too, you know, like the Steeler offense

443
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 3: is huddling right now and it doesn't look like they're

444
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 3: rushing the line until it's their turn. So I think

445
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: you're right.

446
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great. It is.

447
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 3: There's so much going on right and I know we're

448
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 3: the greatest play by play.

449
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 2: No.

450
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 3: No, we're just trying to give the the feeling and

451
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 3: the vibe and some things we're seeing here. You know,

452
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 3: we're not rob King and those guys in the in

453
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: the booth. I tell you what exactly you see, and

454
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: I apologize I can't paint a better picture, but there

455
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: is a lot going on here. Yeah, and it's fun.

456
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 3: No screen so the screen game is That one's kind

457
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Speaker 3: of messy.

458
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: That one was kind of messy, but we've seen a

459
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: lot of that.

460
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 3: Was that the Patterson.

461
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: Want the tight ends.

462
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: I think it was one of the tight ends proved

463
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Speaker 3: it was eighty one.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they've they've really incorporated the screen game into

465
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: the offense this year. Yeah.

466
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Speaker 3: That was sort of an inside tight end screen which

467
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 3: isn't in every playbook to begin with. That one didn't work,

468
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. The Bills blew that one up

469
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: and he would have been tackled for a loss. But

470
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 3: the screen game can really slow down a pass rush

471
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 3: and you mix that with play action too. I mean,

472
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,719
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things, a lot of window dressing

473
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: going on, and missed that thrown play, a lot of

474
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: motion there behind the line of scrimmage, play action. He

475
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: was open. He may have been getting his jersey tugged

476
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Speaker 3: onto the receiver.

477
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: That was justin fields out there working now with that

478
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: second unit as we see Mitch Trubisky down on the

479
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: other end, they're working against the Steelers second team defense.

480
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 3: Mitch actually had a real nice throw there that was

481
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 3: dropped and he got one on one on the outside

482
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: go route and the corner may have got a hand

483
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 3: in there, but the pass was dead on.

484
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we get little Kyle Allen here for

485
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: the Steelers. He's getting an opportunity here to get some

486
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: snaps here against this Bill's defense.

487
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: But I mean, you can you can tell, how you know,

488
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: compared to the game that was only a couple of

489
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: days ago, Wilson played zero. Field's played two series, if

490
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't recall, I think three. Yeah, and then Allen

491
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 3: played the rest. Well here, we've barely seen Alan, I mean,

492
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: just to put that in context.

493
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's been mostly.

494
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: The most important people, yeah, you know, I will fields

495
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: have taken the majority of the snap it's been Allen

496
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: and Trubisky, and Tribisky has had nice and he just

497
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: got one snap there in that one. So yeah, Allen's

498
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: got one snaping team yeah.

499
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So getting the first team offense back out there.

500
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure what we're doing here, but it

501
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: looks like we're probably getting more team because Buffalo's whole

502
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: group is still out there. Yeah, this looks like they're

503
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: gonna do some third down work here.

504
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, they're just changing the situation. Yeah, changing the situation.

505
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: And it's interesting to note they're going third downpackage. Your

506
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: Qurdero Patterson on the field out there for the Steelers. Yeah.

507
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: I again, we can't offer you any insight of what

508
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: their plan is because he has not been on the

509
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: field very much, but he I'll be in stuff.

510
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 2: I want to see where he lines up at for

511
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: this particular plan. Look, see if there's also a running

512
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: back up out there. Does not look like it. Probably

513
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: he's playing back with the first team. Oh no, Najia

514
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: Harris is out there, so you get Patterson Harris out

515
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: there together with Justin Fields in this situation, they're.

516
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 3: Both they're both in the all three in the backfield,

517
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: of course.

518
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, both in the backfield with Justin Fields.

519
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a tight end on the field.

520
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: And now Patterson splits out, okay, hand off to Harrison Boom.

521
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: I mean again, the Bills aren't game planning for a

522
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 3: quarter Ole Patterson package. You know, they did no steeler

523
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: work or very little steeler work of if this guy's

524
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 3: on the field, we have to have an alert because

525
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: it's practical. Yes, you know, you know we talk about

526
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: practice madella practice, but in week one, Atlanta's going to

527
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: have an alert for coquard Ole Patterson and all he

528
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: did in that play was line up to one side

529
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: of the quarterback nausea on the other side and just

530
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: drifted out like they were going to pitch them the

531
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 3: ball and the defense had to honor it.

532
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they might also have an alert for Justin Fields

533
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: being on the field. True, true, so you'd be alert,

534
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: a little alert alert.

535
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: Gotta think run there. But it doesn't mean it has

536
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: to be I throw by Fields. Yeah, get that.

537
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: One out quick, Get that one out out to the flat.

538
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: Is that George Pickens? Yeah, out there?

539
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, he broke that right up, right off nicely.

540
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be we got a year.

541
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: I do too. That's a laser by Allen tight quars TB.

542
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: I think that was I think that's Cater Knox. Yeah,

543
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: the dB just couldn't get his head around the Yeah,

544
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: bull came quick. I mean KZ on that one.

545
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: That the balls there and maybe you heard it coming, Yeah,

546
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: you didn't see it.

547
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: That was against Kinkaid too, you know, one of the

548
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: better young tight ends in the league. Yeah, again they

549
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: got some they got some good players here to go again.

550
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: Good practice against that. Now you get well again. Eric

551
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 2: Jones getting to work here against.

552
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: Oh that was nice.

553
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, random passed Justin Fields on that one.

554
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: And Fields kind of had a no look look to

555
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: him there. It looked like he was his shoulders squared

556
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: Hayward the outside receiver, and then flipped it real quick

557
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: and through the open player down the middle. Another nice

558
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: row by Allen. Yeah, thread the needle for a touchdown. Yeah,

559
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: Allen's all right, pretty deep, pretty good. Yeah, that was

560
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: a true touchdown. Right down the middle of the scene,

561
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: and he's pretty psyched up about it. Don't play him

562
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: as a nice nice work absolutely an upper tier quarterback. Yeah,

563
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: Wilson's look sharp too. Actually, fields look pretty good as well.

564
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. I get a little motion and uh, looks like

565
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: it passed him off there, so a zone and again

566
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: leaving him room to scramble.

567
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: The Wilson scram or a field scramble, yeah, which I

568
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: don't think would have been one of those practice sacks.

569
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: And I'm just gonna scramble now. I think he was Okay,

570
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: there's something there. I'm gonna go. Yeah, Yeah, I think

571
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 3: a first down.

572
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that he gives you, that

573
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: option to do things like that.

574
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 4: He didn't really take off takeoff, no, no, kind of

575
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: a jog at that situation, but he gives you that

576
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: ability that that's that speed that he has is scary

577
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: if you're an opposing defense.

578
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, looks like they're doing third and seven, I think

579
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: on both sides, which is you know right right, Yeah,

580
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: the situational long down and distance passing down probably eleven

581
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: personnel type situation.

582
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Right. Kind of surprised they haven't had Wilson do any

583
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: of this, it's all been Fields and he well, you

584
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: get a little off defensive holding there on that one

585
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: to kind of screwed that play up.

586
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: He was also pretty late with the ball or held

587
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: the ball for a while in the pocket. Yeah, and

588
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: Allen's front lasers out there. But yeah, I'm kind of

589
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: surprised they haven't had Wilson do any of this. It's

590
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: been out there a lot today, but in this particular

591
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: down and distance situation, it's ben Fields.

592
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they just.

593
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: Feel like Fields needs a little bit more work in

594
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: this area. Maybe, I mean the mental side of it

595
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: on Hey, you know, we get we need a first

596
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: down here. On third down, You're gonna see a lot

597
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: different defenses on third down. Then you know, first and ten,

598
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: it's a little it's lot more situational. You can see

599
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: more blitz and you.

600
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: Know, Russell Wilson knows where to gether with the football

601
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: in these Yeah, saying he's been there and done it,

602
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: so maybe that is all it is. But interesting fields

603
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: to get out. Oh he's hold them ball a little

604
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: too long, got pat bat it down, also got knocked

605
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: down to the ground and.

606
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: Picked off on an overthrow from Allen. As much as

607
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 3: I love Allen.

608
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: He Alan. Yeah, get a little pushing and shoving out

609
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: there going on right now because Field's got knocked to

610
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: the ground. Oh yeah, Steelers did not appreciate that their

611
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: their offensive linemen.

612
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: Uh so it looks like cooler heads are prevailing.

613
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: Gentlemen getting together to discuss the rules of play here again.

614
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: That's the third instance where we've had some discussions.

615
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: Hey, fellas, come on.

616
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: Today.

617
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: You can't be hitting the quarterback either. Don't knock the quarterback.

618
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: It looked like he kind of got his footstepped on. Yeah,

619
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: but I.

620
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: Switched to Allen over there. We've got Trubisky on that

621
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: side now.

622
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. But uh well that's that's all broken up now. Yeah,

623
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: and maybe that's why they didn't want to put Wilson

624
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: out there, because.

625
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: You don't want that happening. Well he's out there now,

626
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: so there we go.

627
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 2: Okay.

628
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trubisky threw well behind a cross or was pretty

629
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: well covered.

630
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: He is not as good as Josh.

631
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: No, there's a bigger difference between there one and two

632
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: than the Steelers one and two. And I think Wilson's

633
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: clearly the one here too. Yeah, you know it, But boy,

634
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Allen is a lot different with the football and Tribisky.

635
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's see what Wilson does here in this situation.

636
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: But nice throw right over the middle, looked, looked one way,

637
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: came back to the middle.

638
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, pockets started collapsing. He get hung in there

639
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: and got rid of it.

640
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: An easy pass over the mile to once again Jerray

641
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Jenkins having himself a nice little practice today.

642
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: If he's out there with Wilson, maybe they see something.

643
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like Wilson's out here with the twos

644
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: for this one.

645
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why. I don't think it's not

646
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: an indication, Like no national reporters be like Fields is

647
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: running with the ones and he's rue of the twos. Yeah,

648
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: that's what's happ.

649
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: Taking the majority of the first team snapshot today. So

650
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

651
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Speaker 2: We are live from the Steelers special practice here against

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Speaker 2: the joint practice against.

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Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Uh here today Matt at Akroser Stadium, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to get to see.

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Speaker 3: The kick off, all right, so maybe we'll see something different.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps perhaps perhaps not, but we haven't pre season really

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Speaker 2: from any team. No, no, not a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: different there, but just yeah, Steelers kicking off here. So

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Speaker 2: they've got their what would be their coverage unit out

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Speaker 2: there and I'm counting, uh three offensive players and the

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Speaker 2: rest is defense other than the kicker. Okay, your offensive

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Speaker 2: players would be Connor Heyward, Michele Pruitt, and once again,

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Speaker 2: does Fitzpatrick out there?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so most Shank Prewitt's out there on kickoff.

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Speaker 2: I don't see any big bodies out there for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I guess a couple of linebackers out there, but not

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Speaker 2: the big big bodies, so maybe that plays a part

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Speaker 2: in it.

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Speaker 3: Javon Solomon fifty six is a defensive end. Oh, but

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Speaker 3: he's not a not a big big guy. No, I

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Speaker 3: mean it looks like he's like two fifty somethings like that, right,

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Speaker 3: But he's one of the only lineman type I've seen

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Speaker 3: out there at all.

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Speaker 2: So I wonder if that affects, you know, maybe instead

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Speaker 2: of putting a defensive lineman out there for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: That means that Prewit is out there. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: that's a great question. I'm not sure on that. So

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Speaker 3: would you say Fitzpatrick, Prewitts and Hayward Hayward?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your offensive players, now we got an extra offensive

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Speaker 2: player out there now it's uh, Jack Coleto is now

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Speaker 2: out there as well. They fall back, so okay, and

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Speaker 2: again the Bill's still going with that smaller lineup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. Do they not look at it?

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Speaker 2: They're battling though, I mean, yeah, they're getting after it.

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Speaker 3: Ninety eight for the Bills and Peyton Wilson or he

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Speaker 3: paysically threw I think the flag came out. I think

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Speaker 3: that might have been legally threw Wilson right to the ground.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Medikevitch not happy about that one. He's yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Bills know about it.

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Speaker 3: His former teammates over there, and the flag did come out.

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Speaker 3: So no, But these guys are doing a lot more

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Speaker 3: than we saw a camp in terms of the collisions

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Speaker 3: between front lines of kickoff team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting after a little bit, which is what

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Speaker 2: you'd expect. Yeah, right, situation, that's why you do it.

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Speaker 2: This is a big, big period.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about this for since it's been announced

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Speaker 3: that this is gonna be something that they can gain

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Speaker 3: a lot from. Absolutely. Do you see Leao out there?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: No. Again, I think I think largely because the Bills

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Speaker 2: don't have a big guy out there and Matthew Wright

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Speaker 2: is getting that kind of frisbee kick yep, going we were

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Speaker 2: talking about that yesterday. That would have been a tackle

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Speaker 2: by twenty somebody. But he's not letting me see the

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Speaker 2: rest of his jersey. Yeah, sorry, but he got down

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Speaker 2: there well twenty eight. Yeah, we're seeing some some different

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Speaker 2: line changes in there and things that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of guys are getting the tension here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just getting different guys in there, the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: do it again, do it live, and you're rupping it

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Speaker 2: more than you may see it the entire preseason.

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Speaker 3: Right, we've had what four of them? Yeah, that might

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Speaker 3: be more more than you get on Friday already, and

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Speaker 3: they're just getting warmed up. Yeah, so that's one still

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Speaker 3: seven minutes pass to do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I like that kick. It makes it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because as soon as that ball hits the ground, you

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Speaker 2: can you can go right.

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Speaker 3: So what you're describing it was kind of like a

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Speaker 3: boomerang kick where the ball is kind of parallel to

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Speaker 3: the ground and it's spinning round and round almost like

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Speaker 3: have you seen bos do it or has it just

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Speaker 3: been right?

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Speaker 2: Right, it's been he's been the only one doing this.

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Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't seen him Boswell do that yet.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Boswell is not even in uniform today.

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Speaker 3: I say, he's not even he's got a pretty easy

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Speaker 3: camp anything.

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Speaker 2: No, you don't need to see him do anything save

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Speaker 2: it all for the because he's getting up in age.

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Speaker 3: Matthew right end up getting the job somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Though, Oh, there's no doubt I think for him.

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Speaker 3: This kind of work ideal.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this is ideal.

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Speaker 3: And once again he looks like they covered that well

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Speaker 3: before the thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doing a nice job that the return guy for

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Speaker 2: the Bills actually had to double catch that one because

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Speaker 2: again it's coming in with that weird spin on it.

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Speaker 3: I love that style a kick for the kickoffs though,

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Speaker 3: because it's low and it's hard and spinning at you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a hard thing to corral.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now they're switching things up here the Bills, we'll

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Speaker 2: get the opportunity to kick off. So the Steelers move

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Speaker 2: over to the being the return team.

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Speaker 3: So yep, keeping it the same directions.

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Speaker 2: But they got about what eight returns here something like.

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Speaker 3: That, right, and again that this period still has a

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Speaker 3: little less than six six minutes left, so you know,

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Speaker 3: that's a straight action there as as much as you're

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Speaker 3: gonna get in the game.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what the what Buffalo comes out with here

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Speaker 2: in coverage because the Steelers do have some bigger bodies

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Speaker 2: out there. It looks like, uh, well, let's see.

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Speaker 3: I don't see a Spencer Anderson type that they've used before.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't see any defensive linement out there, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of linebackers tight ends Heyward. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and maybe again because Buffalo is not putting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Is it a situation? Is it

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Speaker 3: like personnel groupings on offensive defense? Like what do they

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Speaker 3: put out there?

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Speaker 2: But the Steelers also are not using Corderio Patterson now

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Speaker 2: the guy here.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering if they would or not, but they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Save that for later. Yeah, the reason to show anybody

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Speaker 2: that I guyeah, you know what that looks like? Are

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Speaker 2: still using John Rey's plumbley back there though?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's a pretty easy guy to root

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Speaker 3: for it and he does anything they ask him, and

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Speaker 3: his face in there and you know it'll run around

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Speaker 3: even once in a while, So good for him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if plumble He's gonna take one snap

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Speaker 3: today quarterback probably not.

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Speaker 2: Nah. I guess he gives an opportunity to do something,

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Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to take.

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Speaker 3: Any snaps in the game at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I doubt he will this week either.

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Speaker 3: Not with Wilson, so I would think, yeah, why not

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Speaker 3: get some chances to, yeah, make an in some way

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Speaker 3: shape or for him? Right, Yeah, Okay, we're not tackling

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Speaker 3: to the ground, but everything else is live.

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Speaker 2: I do find it interesting though, Patterson, even though he's

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Speaker 2: not doing this, look at where he's set up at

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Speaker 2: underneath the goal. Paer just watching to see what this

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Speaker 2: all looks like.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole, that's a that's a like makeup playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he always does that on defense, like it's a deep, deep,

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Speaker 3: deep center field guy. Just to see that one to

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Speaker 3: the ground. It's pretty good between Matty Kaevitch and maybe

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Speaker 3: a former team that was well past the whistle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Patterson's back there getting the bird's eye view

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Speaker 2: of this thing.

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Speaker 3: I want to see how this opens up. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: never fielded a kick with this rule yet. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I bet he's a little to say nerve, but I

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Speaker 3: mean this is new for him. He's been fielding kickoffs

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Speaker 3: the same way forever and he's been really really good

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Speaker 3: at it. I'm sure it'll be really good at this too.

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Speaker 3: But he's never seen it. I would assume he'll at

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Speaker 3: least field one.

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Speaker 2: Preseason kick then maybe yeah, yeah, I guess you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lose a lot of sleepover either way.

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Speaker 2: But we've seen him over the years when he was

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Speaker 2: with other teams, if the ball was kicked eight yards

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Speaker 2: nine yards deep in the end zone, he'd bring it out.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he still does that in this one,

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Speaker 2: because everybody that we've seen thus far, at least everything

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Speaker 2: i've seen, everybody's kicked short.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't know. I bet he does. I mean,

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Speaker 3: especially once he gets comfortable with it. So we haven't

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Speaker 3: seen any cookie stuff, you know, reverses or and.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to see that. Yeah, somebody wants to

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Speaker 2: show that now.

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Speaker 3: But it sure seems like much like preseason, most of

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Speaker 3: these returns get to like the twenty seven or twenty eighth,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I hope that this

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Speaker 3: kickoff rule is not much ado about nothing, but it

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Speaker 3: might be. I mean if it creates a little bit

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Speaker 3: different something to talk about at least, but still a play.

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Speaker 3: It's still a team coming up and kicking the ball

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Speaker 3: out of the end zone and saying, Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: you're just gonna give it to you to thirty, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still not going to get a beer

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Speaker 3: when the kickoff has happened, like last time you could do.

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Speaker 2: You know, that was part of the impetus for this obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, kickoff returns were way down last year.

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Speaker 3: There was not a single kickoff returned into Super.

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Speaker 2: Bowl last year. Huh Okay, everything was just touch back,

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Speaker 2: touch back, touch back, touch back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's boring. It's boring. And so even if the

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Speaker 3: average you know, return gets to the twenty eight, you know,

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Speaker 3: over the course of the year, that's still probably three

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00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 3: yards more than it was last year.

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Speaker 2: And that probably still keeps you from kicking just kicking

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Speaker 2: the ball out of bonds, because if I'm keeping teams

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Speaker 2: inside it, you know, between the twenty five and twenty eight, well,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to be gained them by kicking the bought

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Speaker 2: of bonds and giving it to him at to thirty.

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Speaker 3: Great, and even if you could just across the league

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Speaker 3: get two or three more yards of starting fuel position

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Speaker 3: off kickoffs, that might lead to one hundred more points.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I know the league doesn't love

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Speaker 3: the scoring, Styn and this couldn't maybe help that As

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Speaker 3: of now, one preseason week in the books, there hasn't

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Speaker 3: been a lot of flash or a lot of craziness. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's been a touchdown, there was one, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 2: Which we didn't see many of those last year.

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Speaker 3: True, true, So now I'm intrigued by it.

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Speaker 2: I get another one going on here. One thing I

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Speaker 2: can't do is dance.

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Speaker 3: You got to you hit it. I mean, things happen

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Speaker 3: pretty darn quick the second that ball lands in the

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Speaker 3: returner's hands, because boom, that front line is to flip

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Speaker 3: around and catch dudes that are just taking off the

874
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: starting point. And you better not dance at all.

875
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we could still see this whole thing tweaked

876
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: before the start of the season.

877
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this.

878
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: Could be an ongoing thing that changes, you know, if

879
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: the league doesn't get what it wants to see occur

880
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: out of this, if they look at all the preseason

881
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: tape and say, ah, this, you know, maybe we'll didn't

882
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: do what I wanted to. Yeah, maybe we'll make the

883
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: touchbacks to thirty five. Maybe we'll you know, it just

884
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: depends on you know what what everything, how this all

885
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: goes because it's a completely different rule it is. You know,

886
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: like that one was a pretty directional kick. Directional kick

887
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: that was not an easy one to field, and it

888
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: looked like the Steelers had to kick return set up

889
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: to go the other way. Yeah.

890
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think the Bills were happy with that result.

891
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: And that is going to do it for that part

892
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: of the practice. It will get a couple more sessions here.

893
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: They've probably got six to eight good reps of roteach

894
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: and you know kickoff. Yeah, so live speed.

895
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Seeing the defensive units here had back onto the

896
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: field on the one or team, Yeah, we're gonna get

897
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: some more team here and the Steelers offense. So coming

898
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: back out onto.

899
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: The field, the lineman might be yeah, it might be

900
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: seven seven, Yeah, it might be seven on seven, yeah,

901
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: seven on seven linemen once in the middle, in the middle,

902
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: it's my hunch. Looks like all the big people are

903
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: between the forties.

904
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: The beggins. The beggins are out there.

905
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson's out there with his group of receivers. No lineman.

906
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little seven on seven.

907
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: It looks like practice will go a little later than

908
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: we're on the air too.

909
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.

910
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's been a blast.

911
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: It has been a blast.

912
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been able to die. I want

913
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: to watch all the tape. I wish I was recording

914
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 3: it or you know right.

915
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, a little incompletion there on the Steelers

916
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: first attempt. Yeah, uh yeah, broken up, same thing, almost

917
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: an interception there. I think it wouldn't surprise me moving

918
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: forward if we see the Steelers do this more often

919
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: in the future group practices.

920
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I bet Tom wins loving this. I mean,

921
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: as much as physicality as he wants, his intensity as

922
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: he wants, even whenever the teammates get a little upset

923
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: with them, He's not, you know, breaking it up quite

924
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: as soon as other coaches perhaps. I mean, I think

925
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: he wants the physicality. I mean, how often does he

926
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: say the word we want to compete, compete, compete. There's

927
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 3: a lot of competition going on here now.

928
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just competing against guys you've been

929
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: competing against the entire time. This is an opportunity, and

930
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: again with three preseason games and the potential in the

931
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: future that we might go down to two preseason games

932
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: if they go to an eighteen game schedule if you.

933
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: Can get a team to come here a couple of

934
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: days early, or vice versa.

935
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: Or vice versa. Yeah, sure, and Buffalo is a nice

936
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: dance partner. Yeah, because it's not that far away. You know,

937
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: either way, you're not going to do it against Cleveland. No,

938
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: you're not to do it against Baltimore.

939
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: Right, would you rather do it against an NFC team

940
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: in a perfect world?

941
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, it doesn't. That doesn't really as long as

942
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: they're not on the schedule.

943
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: They're not on the schedule. I mean, yeah, next time

944
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: you could play them as wildcard round again.

945
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: And to a certain degree, even if they are on

946
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: the schedule, I'm not super concerned about that because I'm

947
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: you're not showing anything.

948
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: They weren't. But I hear you, especially if it's late

949
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: in the year. So I find it interesting too. Like

950
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: we said, the big guys are doing battles here too.

951
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: The Steelers offense is going against two or three man

952
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: pass rush stuff. You know, they're twisting and stunning or

953
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: the other side. The Steelers pass rush is just one

954
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: on ones, you know. So I'm sure they agreed on

955
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 3: that before too. Hey, Hey, could we use half line

956
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: drills on this side and only do one on ones

957
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: on when we have the ball or whatever. That's all.

958
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: That was a full one right there. Right, that's the

959
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: first one I've seen that five against four. Yeah, you don't.

960
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen that in see

961
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: a practice where it's just just lineman doing the.

962
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Full I don't know that I have either.

963
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: Yea, that was definitely a new one. Maybe that's a

964
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: Bill saying I don't know.

965
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's something that they like to do.

966
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: And that's great work. I mean the guys off yeah right,

967
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean one of them Von Miller and you know

968
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: big time guys. Now there's a half line, right, so

969
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: what they're doing there was just left tackle, left guard. Yeah.

970
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: They're throwing some hands there too. Oh there's a little

971
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: it is that boogie basham. He was a couple of

972
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: hands of the face there. I think that was McCormick

973
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: in it. He doesn't back down.

974
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: To saying he is a feisty young man.

975
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh there's still so there's been some throwing in

976
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: that one. Guys not happy, not thrilled. Yeah, and hey,

977
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: I mean when you're doing five on fours more two

978
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: two and yeah.

979
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: Not real happy and Pat Meyer calls him off to

980
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: the side here.

981
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was definitely a bill that was throwing hands

982
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: out a little bit. Yeah, But on the other side

983
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: there just looks like they're working on edge stuff. It's

984
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: just one of them tackles versus edge guys. So the

985
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: drill of the near side though, pretty darn back after it. Yeah,

986
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: getting after it. It's gonna be a two on two.

987
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: And they did not pass.

988
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: They didn't, but there'd be a center there. There would

989
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: be a sentiment like, so the the outside edge guy

990
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: looped in and the right guard didn't pass them off,

991
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: but maybe in their protection scheme, that would have been

992
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: a center there to pick it.

993
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: And I wonder if this is now this being the

994
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: third time, there is just another four man rush.

995
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: It looks like it sure looks like it. Yeah, yep,

996
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: that's an interesting wag. Yes, I wonder if Tomlin's like,

997
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: maybe we'll put that in the back pocket for the

998
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: next year or whatever.

999
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: Or you know, maybe that's one that they almost Yeah, okay,

1000
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: that's not that's not bad.

1001
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it sure looks like the bills are twisting

1002
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: or looping almost on every rep. Yeah, is coming right, yeah, Yeah,

1003
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: which is awesome.

1004
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for you know, for your young offensive linemen to

1005
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: get that kind of look, because you know you may

1006
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: see it a few times during practice, but now you're

1007
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: getting an opportunity to work on a little bit.

1008
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it's full speed and these guys don't

1009
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: like you and you don't like them, and yeah, so

1010
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 3: it's I think that's a valuable you know session right there,

1011
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: for sure.

1012
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1013
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: I just keep saying that there's a lot of value,

1014
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of competition here. He kept using the

1015
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: same words.

1016
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I do think again this is this

1017
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: has been, to your point, an extremely valuable session here, yes,

1018
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 2: you know, with with a lot of good work being

1019
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: done and.

1020
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: Nope, now they're going to one on ones.

1021
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: How does this carry over do you think into the

1022
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: game on on Saturday?

1023
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. Is there a little bit of bad

1024
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: blood you know that? Or you have a little bit

1025
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: of a scouting report against that guy went against a

1026
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: few times. Okay, I have a pretty good idea with

1027
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: this guy. He was quicker off the ball that I thought,

1028
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: or you know, that corner didn't change directions as well

1029
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: as I thought, Like, I bet you'll they'll remember some

1030
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: stuff here without question. Yeah, just you know, I think

1031
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers D line is doing two man games, okay,

1032
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it looks like okay, and they're doing

1033
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: one on ones on the other side.

1034
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: That must be something that the Bills do on a

1035
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: regular basis.

1036
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I could see the value in it.

1037
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, we still have the skeleton stuff. We got

1038
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: seven on seven on both end zone areas red zones.

1039
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: A lot going on. It's hard to tell who had

1040
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 3: good practices and who didn't.

1041
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's just you have to watch tape.

1042
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: Watch the tape and go back and look it over.

1043
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: That's Broderick Ron Miller. I guess that's awesome, you know.

1044
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is not to like about that?

1045
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: You want to take? Hey, Broderick, you want to do

1046
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: five reps against the future Hall of Famer?

1047
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1048
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: I do.

1049
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I can do that every day

1050
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: and practice.

1051
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: Right, And I'm getting sick of that guy.

1052
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm getting see, I'm getting sick of working those future

1053
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: Hall of famers.

1054
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: Like on the top there, the Steelers had an interior

1055
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: D line game that really didn't go anywhere. They just

1056
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: kind of got in each other's way. But that's a

1057
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: teaching tool. You know, right, you didn't loop enough around

1058
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: or whatever it was. You know, you kind of aid

1059
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 3: into each other's space. Bills picked that one up pretty

1060
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: well too, they did.

1061
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a great kind of switch off or

1062
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't a great No, steel was not.

1063
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: I'm just looking here, I don't I don't think that was. Yeah,

1064
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: those were not. They were toys. Yeah, so maybe not

1065
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: some guys who were used to doing it. Now you

1066
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: got herbigan out there and he.

1067
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: Ended up on his back. These guys aren't getting around.

1068
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: Now, they're they're getting after it pretty well.

1069
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Both teams are playing with a lot of intensity.

1070
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and again I think that's very very beneficial. Again,

1071
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: up that up the tempo just a little bit for yeah, you.

1072
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: Guys, because this is definitely, maybe even more intense than

1073
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 3: the Texans game. Yeah, I think so, at least per rep.

1074
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've had to sustain it over a longer

1075
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: period of time as well, because you know, if you're

1076
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: a young guy, maybe you played fifteen snaps or one

1077
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: series or you know, this has been much more than that,

1078
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: and much we're sustaining it over a two hour period.

1079
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: Now it hasn't been the ones, but the Steeler O

1080
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: line has been losing the last couple of minutes in

1081
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: these one on one battles. And on that one though,

1082
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: that was well done by sixty nine. Yeah, it wasn't

1083
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: their top guys. No, it wasn't their top guy either.

1084
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm not real concerned about the third line O line.

1085
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: Top two lines are pretty.

1086
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: Strong, they're pretty good. Yeah, Matt, we are done here today. Yeah,

1087
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: this has been This is fun, right, I've enjoyed this.

1088
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: It was kind of a fish out of water in

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Speaker 3: terms of being on the air. There's so much to

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Speaker 3: and a lot to get better at.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I've enjoyed just watching it happen here talking

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Speaker 2: hope you've enjoyed catching up here on the Steelers Audio

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Speaker 2: Network and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. But for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: for Justin Miller Beck in studio doing the same, I'm dale, Lolly.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 2: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.