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Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network Talk.

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Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to

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Speaker 2: talks back.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, it's your girl a j holiday.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Tam damn? Hey, y'all is Tam Bam. I

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Speaker 2: love y'all so very much. How you doing there?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm alive, I'm breathing, feeling fine, looking fine.

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Speaker 2: How was your weekend?

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Speaker 1: I can't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Ooh ooh, that's good.

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Speaker 3: I had to go.

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Speaker 1: It was raining off fu a weekend child. I was

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Speaker 1: in the house, okay, laying down doing what I like

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Speaker 1: to do. So you were on your knees all you

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Speaker 1: can shut up. I bought a big ass thirty pound

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Speaker 1: box of oysters from the restaurant depot, so I need

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of uh Rockefellers Oyster Rockefellas, and a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of you know, oysters is a super apple aphrodisiac.

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Speaker 2: So you were on your knees all week and got it?

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Speaker 1: Whatever TMJ out of order.

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Speaker 2: I went to UH, I went to Atlanta. I drove

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Speaker 2: down to Atlanta on Saturday and it came right back

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. The Turn and Burn. Yeah, just hang out

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Oh, the skull sign, Yeah, just to go.

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Speaker 2: I was off, so I was like, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: not sit around. I'm just gonna go somewhere. So I

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Speaker 2: drove down there, hung out with one of my friends.

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Speaker 1: On your knees while you try to tell people, I'll

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Speaker 1: be on my knees on the weekend. That's why I

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Speaker 1: want to tell him what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: No, actually, I was not on my knees. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: that type of vibe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's get this in. Uh girl, So Clarissa Shields, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I want to really like her because she is so innocent.

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Speaker 1: She's so innocent. Why did I hear that she was

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Speaker 1: a virgin up until she started fucking with papoos?

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 1: Like a thirty year old virgin.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not true, because I watched when I was

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Speaker 2: on my way to London. There she is a movie

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Speaker 2: about her. You know that. No, yeah, huh, I watched

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Speaker 2: it and I think she was getting hit in the movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh was it?

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Speaker 2: Remember? Because I was drinking so much?

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Speaker 1: Huh was it good? The movie?

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Speaker 2: It was actually a good movie.

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Speaker 1: I remember when she was on a breakfast club promoting it,

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Speaker 1: but I hadn't watched it. But apparently okay, so she

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Speaker 1: had been soliciting a fight to Laila Ali. Now, Laila

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Speaker 1: Ali has been retired for a long time now, but

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Speaker 1: she's the champ. So I guess Clarissa wants to fight

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Speaker 1: the champ. But do you think that would be a

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Speaker 1: fair fight.

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Speaker 2: When did all of a sudden a fight old last

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Speaker 2: niggas become a thing like that's some news, get number

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Speaker 2: once for that back.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 2: Now you want to fight a woman twenty years older

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Speaker 2: than you? It's crazy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is crazy. Is she twenty years older?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because Clarissa is only thirty, I believe, and Leila Ali

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Speaker 1: is forty seven years old, so damn near twenty years Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So uh, I guess Clarissa asked about fighting her a

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Speaker 1: while ago, and somebody asked Leyla about it, like on

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Speaker 1: an interview, and she was like, the money ride, I

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Speaker 1: might do it.

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Speaker 2: No, she's a fifteen million.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Clarissa allegedly went and got the fifteen million,

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Speaker 1: and now Leila Ali is like, I'm not fighting you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm saying like she was like Clarissa trains

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Speaker 1: every day. I'm sure right, Leilai is forty seven. I

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Speaker 1: have to hit the gym hard again like that and

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Speaker 1: like get ready for a fight. It would take her

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Speaker 1: a year, I'm sure. Yeah, the mom a wife like girl, girl, get.

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Speaker 2: Out of my face.

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Speaker 1: It right, and already I.

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Speaker 2: Would have win in that ring and let Clorissa hit

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Speaker 2: me one time and hit the.

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Speaker 1: Mat and got fifty left period, Like shit, it don't

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Speaker 1: make you like no less the champ. Sometimes you win,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you lose.

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Speaker 2: Seven we are you already stamped and approved at this point?

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Speaker 2: Like it's I listen. I started boxing over last week.

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Speaker 2: I took a boxing class. I really like it. I'm

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Speaker 2: going back.

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Speaker 1: I should get your body together. Which you went to

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Speaker 1: Title Fitness?

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Speaker 2: I know, I went to boxing. No, I went to

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Speaker 2: Robinson Neil. It's a real boxing gym. So it was cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they wrapped my hands up. I didn't even know they

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Speaker 2: was doing all Like I ain't know all of that

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Speaker 2: ship and tail in boxing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta wrap your hands and then put it

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Speaker 1: in the gloves. I used to do Title boxing. That

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Speaker 1: is a good fucking workout, and my body was good

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Speaker 1: for I don't know, maybe three months.

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Speaker 2: They stopped doing that ship or even started boxing. They

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Speaker 2: had me in there doing all kinds of callous the

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Speaker 2: nicks and ship like, yes, I tell you I was

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Speaker 2: poorn sweat porn. Yes, that's real, bitch, I love it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going back this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real, like intense. Yeah, I've done kickboxing classes before.

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Speaker 1: M hitch, no, Dad, Well, my leg heavy as hell, bitch.

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Speaker 1: My fucking legs so heavy, I feel like bricks. One

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Speaker 1: thing I've never been able to do is a fucking

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Speaker 1: pull up. Like that's really like goals in life for

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Speaker 1: me to be able to pull my own body. Let

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Speaker 1: the zombie apocalypse hit, like, and I got to hang

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Speaker 1: off a cliff, bitch, I'm dead early, bitch, I've got

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Speaker 1: if I got to hold on for their life, I'm dying.

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Speaker 1: Maybe adrenaline might help me, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't done a pull up in a long time,

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Speaker 2: so I'm pretty sure I can't do one right now.

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Speaker 2: But I was in ROTC so we had to do

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Speaker 2: pull ups. Yeah, but yeah, no probably not now. My

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Speaker 2: bottom heavy at hell.

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Speaker 1: And I can never do the monkey bars like going

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Speaker 1: for the next one. To the next one.

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Speaker 2: I can never do it.

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Speaker 1: No, I always been chunky. I've never been able to

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Speaker 1: lift my own bodyweight. Bitch ever goals anyway, Clarissa relaxed.

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Speaker 1: Okay Ley Loly is first of all, too cute to

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Speaker 1: be playing with you that you don't give a Fuck's

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Speaker 1: scary lately? No, absolutely she has, but I give her

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Speaker 1: that now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you start talking.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, it's like all boxers have the

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Speaker 1: same talk though, from the men to the women. Like

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Speaker 1: I guess not Leay Lollly. Maybe she ain't get hit

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Speaker 1: enough in her head. But like Clarissa, sounds like Tank

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Speaker 1: to me, like the way they articulate their words and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Tank the the boxer. They sound slow.

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Speaker 2: Man the next one. Buster Rhymes faces AsSalt lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: I't dismiss what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious to go, I got it.

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Speaker 1: They do sound a little slow, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: from getting hit in the head. Go ahead, God.

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Speaker 2: Rhymes fut lawsuit for a former assistant so rapper. Buster

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Speaker 2: Rhymes is being sued by his ex assistant, who accuses

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Speaker 2: him of physical assault, verbal abuse, and wage violations. Busta

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Speaker 2: has dismissed the complaints as a smear campaign and is

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Speaker 2: reportedly playing in a countersuit.

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Speaker 1: Why had that so? I read this article A little

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Speaker 1: bit right and Bust rhymes whose real name is what

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 2: Trevor? Trevor something?

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Speaker 1: He said, for a very brief, brief period, Dachelle assisted

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Speaker 1: me the guy who as suited him as Doschelle gambles.

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Speaker 1: He said, for a very brief period, Dashell assisted me,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't work out. Apparently Doschell has decided to

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Speaker 1: respond uh to being let go by manufacturing claims against

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Speaker 1: me in an attempt to attack and damage my reputation. Girl,

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Speaker 1: why the fuck I got Chelsea boots All advertising to

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Speaker 1: me on the internet now? Like if I take a

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Speaker 1: picture of my fucking screen, Like the fuck Internet man,

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Speaker 1: get to my nerves.

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Speaker 2: I used to love bust around when he was what

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Speaker 2: was that? I feel like it was a Chris Brown

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Speaker 2: sound busterros was on? Was it look at me? Look

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Speaker 2: at me that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I loved him during that time. But more recently when

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Speaker 2: he's been like stroking a microphone like a dick with

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Speaker 2: his tongue out and then the spray painted hair and stuff.

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Speaker 2: What did that guy say that?

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Speaker 1: Lady? Man on that video I sent you what did

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Speaker 1: she call it? A butcher?

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Speaker 2: What queen?

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Speaker 1: Fem butch queen? That might be busted rhymes.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 4: Either, but it sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I could not translate that fucking video.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of like these people have a whole

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Speaker 2: language that I just don't know what it is. There's

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Speaker 2: something about getting chopped coming out of the bathroom, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I just don't know what that means. Is

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Speaker 2: that a good thing? Do I want to get chopped?

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Speaker 2: Because it sounds like something I would.

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Speaker 1: Like, Oh yeah, I've seen a person calling back and

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Speaker 1: it's basically like you think, you think you look good,

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Speaker 1: but then they're like, did you look bad? Type thing

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Speaker 1: like chop you like, chop your esteem. I guess men

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Speaker 1: do that to women too, Like imagine getting chopped as

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Speaker 1: soon as you I'm thinking like shot when when he

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Speaker 1: was saying that, like shot or I'm taking.

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Speaker 2: You're getting bit over and chopped down? Yeah, I like

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Speaker 2: to get Now, let's purpose that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we used to say chops, kid, It's like

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Speaker 1: that that was sex, Like y'all was chopping y'all didn't

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Speaker 1: say that in Columbia.

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Girls shut up? In high school, you used to talk

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Speaker 1: about sex. We was definitely chopping. It's cool, definitely chopping

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Speaker 1: and getting chopped. Okay, but yeah, Bust Rhymes said this

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Speaker 1: man worked for him for a short period of time.

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Speaker 1: What do y'all think that means? No, Diddy?

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Speaker 2: Shut up?

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Speaker 4: Girls?

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Speaker 2: So do you feel like every black man in entertainment

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Speaker 2: is getting sued like it's a writer of passage.

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Speaker 1: It's not a rite of passage. But these niggas do

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Speaker 1: be doing shit to get suited about. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Don't give people the amo. It's not like these allegations

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Speaker 1: come out of nowhere. They have put people in positions

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Speaker 1: to fuck them up. Yeah, stop doing stuff, stay out,

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Speaker 1: lass in the house, get a wife. As much people like.

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Speaker 1: People always try to tie jay Z to bullshit, but

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Speaker 1: jay Z keeps his slate clean. I attribute that probably

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Speaker 1: to him having a wife's stability, a family. You got

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Speaker 1: a nigga like Diddy who just got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: baby mamas and he just he he's the king of

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Speaker 1: the castle and he does whatever it is that he

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Speaker 1: wants to do. It is no structure, you know, what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Everybody's bowing down to him. Get y'all, get

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Speaker 1: y'all a wife. I look at nigga sideways. Who's that old?

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Speaker 1: When no wife? What are y'all doing?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Travel the country to meet these niggas by these dicks,

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Speaker 1: Like what what? How? Like everybody's trying to find a

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but NYPD said this is very reckless

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Speaker 2: I was scared. I don't know, you don't like dick,

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Speaker 1: Some people know they don't want to have sex with

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Speaker 2: Probably damn that's crazy. Yeah, so she's saying, if you

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Speaker 1: Know you know, I mean, that's how they be trying

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Speaker 1: Girl, By bitch, I'm cool, like I I know how

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Speaker 2: Listen to this last one poison lace beef Wellington. It's

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Speaker 2: a true crime dinner. So in Victoria, Australia, Aaron Patterson

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Speaker 2: as I saw it, said beef Wellington. I knew these

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Speaker 1: Beef Wellington? And what does that all consist of? Like vegetables?

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Speaker 2: And it's probably like some other seasoned beef wrapped in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she put she put some daily mushrooms in

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Speaker 2: that shit. She said, y'all ain't gonna talk shit to

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Speaker 1: I'm killing had a policy on everybody, you know, white folks.

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Speaker 1: White folks will take out their whole family about some money. Yep, Okay, they.

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Speaker 2: They always I just always saw them as awful, and

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Speaker 2: Damn it said all the way around.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were trying to get them out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I know the Kardashians was on

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Speaker 1: Them dudes look like some demons.

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Speaker 2: Those two, they don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't look good.

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Speaker 2: I remember them from my childhood. I remember that name

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Speaker 2: like there was big news when they their parents and Kelly. Yep,

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Speaker 2: all right, girl. We got my dear friend, Philip miller On.

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Speaker 2: He is the CEO and owner of Everybody Needs a Feel.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking all things gay, all things gay and black.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we have a lot of questions and I

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Speaker 2: So y'all stay tuned. Well, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: As like his signature jeans every.

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Speaker 5: Time you seum, he's gonna have on them, dark blue

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Speaker 2: In this I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it don't look crazy sitting there.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't look crazy, well when you keep pulling it

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Speaker 1: Keep rolling.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what is wrong?

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Speaker 1: But I saw this experiment online one time where they

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Speaker 2: In that area.

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Speaker 1: Because for whatever, people take their jeans off and hang them.

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Speaker 3: Up, which is crazy to me. Don't watch diabolical like

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Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna wear them five times and put

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that you think these men are going to

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Speaker 3: the cleaners, he's crazy. Okay. You think these men know

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Speaker 3: where are cleaners? Is? No, they don't know where? Okay, yes,

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that there's a bar These

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Speaker 5: niggas not going to cleaners. They're going to the washing

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Speaker 1: But you you like, what are you wacky to use powder?

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Speaker 4: I still will. I will use the powder if.

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Speaker 1: He's standing in your clothes. Sometimes use that bullshit. And

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Speaker 3: Yes, you do use that.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start the episode talking about something.

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Speaker 1: Talk about washing clothes.

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Speaker 4: We gotta Philip on to talk about detergent, right.

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Speaker 1: Tied in the window.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was the swingerst thing in England. You

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Speaker 2: will put the tide in the window. I let people

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Speaker 2: know the same. Yeah, kind of the same.

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Speaker 3: Make sure my t is not everybody nice to meet

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Speaker 2: How's it going on over here?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: So go ahead, started out, Oh.

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Speaker 1: I don't have an intro.

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Speaker 2: This is your home boy, well ship.

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Speaker 4: I don't do this part, all right?

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Speaker 1: Hold on.

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Speaker 2: Miller, right, yeah, Philip Miller. I don't want to just

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Speaker 2: be like, hey, he gave y'all like, so hold on,

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Speaker 2: I need a intro, all right, give me like your job.

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Speaker 3: Saw.

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Speaker 5: I'm Philip Miller, and I have a consulting company called

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Speaker 5: Everybody Needs a Feel. I help with fundraising and help

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Speaker 5: with nonprofits. My slogan is I help small nonprofits become

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Speaker 5: big nonprofits.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so listen, he did it. I ain't even got

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Speaker 2: to get the intro.

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Speaker 1: He needs a feel.

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Speaker 2: Everybody needs a feel, and it's very successful. Like I

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Speaker 2: saw you on the news or like you was on

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Speaker 5: Yeah I'm black, and shout out to my friends. They

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Speaker 5: that one.

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Speaker 1: Raising is a real skill. Like being able to get

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Speaker 1: you money is a whole skill. My homegirl texting in

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Speaker 1: the group chat right now, trying to get us to

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Speaker 1: give fifty dollars for the rifle for a golf cart.

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Speaker 3: Bitch, right right.

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Speaker 5: You got to connect people with what their what their

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Speaker 5: heart is really desiring to do, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, right, I can't garage, right, I would sell it though,

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Speaker 2: you could win it and sell it possibly.

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Speaker 1: What about a winning I just out of fifty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how raffles work.

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Speaker 1: I did not respond in the group.

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Speaker 2: But listen, I said, fill up our FaceTime. Fill up

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Speaker 2: on a random afternoon and he'll be on a golf course.

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'm trying to get this money. I'm

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Speaker 5: I love that. Sometimes you got to go where the

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Speaker 5: about connecting people to what mission they want to support

443
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 5: and how they want to show up in their community.

444
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 5: You know, your friends are just trying to force you

445
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 5: into something else, like that's not really what you want

446
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 5: to do. Like, you got to really connect to what

447
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 5: people's heart, like if you support kids, are you support

448
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 5: you know, homelessness or like low income families, like whatever

449
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 5: you want to get connected to. That's for My job

450
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 5: is to find the people with the money to connect

451
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 5: them to the cause.

452
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: Right, Well, we got a cause, call we talk back.

453
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: Can you think that's okay? That's a for profit nonprofit.

454
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: Non profits? I'm about have made me a five?

455
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: Want to C three?

456
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: I have I want to do?

457
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 5: Let me.

458
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: I can't say it because I don't want to buy

459
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: seal my idea. But you know, like I'm not a

460
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: pro life person or pro choice, I'm just anti struggle, right,

461
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: So whatever makes sense for you at the time, big

462
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: please Okay, So I would like to have like a facility,

463
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: a home or something, because in Charleston it used to

464
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: be a place like this where girls young girls that

465
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: they got pregnant. You know, you're like your child. You

466
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: could go still go to school. Like a facility, like

467
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: a house, like a home housing. I would like to

468
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: do something like that.

469
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful.

470
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: Mommy's house, Mummy's house, that's what you want to call it.

471
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: That's cute. Like what you gonna have, Like I got

472
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: some little ghost and goo to at least before before

473
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: the next four weeks. All right, So we invited Phil

474
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: on art.

475
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: Because I'm a homosexual. Yes that's yes.

476
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: I always gotta say it like that. But that is

477
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: why he's a game y.

478
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: It's literally texted again.

479
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, who gave right.

480
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: Back?

481
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: Gay?

482
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: So all right, we wanted him on for Pride month,

483
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: but Phil is very, very booked and busy. He'd be

484
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: all over the country, so it was hard to get

485
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: him on during Pride. So I'm glad you made time

486
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: for us that we talked back today, and we do

487
00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: want to talk about being black and gay, and it's sensitive.

488
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: It's probably more sensitive for you obviously, but it's sensitive

489
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: for me because I'm always afraid of saying something wrong

490
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: or asking like how white people want to know about

491
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: black people, and they'd be like scared to ask the

492
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: question because they don't want to say the wrong thing.

493
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: So that's how I feel. Like even when I text

494
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: her as like the gays are locked in, she was like,

495
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: don't say it like that.

496
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: I just literally sent back the Geese.

497
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't mean it in an offensive way, you know,

498
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: I just meant like, but when I think about, yeah,

499
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: I think it like I think about when I speak

500
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: to it, I think about, like how if a white

501
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: person was talking about the blacks are locked in?

502
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 5: Right, And it's like, like what I mean. I think

503
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: it's out to have a safe space in general where

504
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 5: you can talk openly to your friends about things and

505
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: not have to worry about the politics of it, you know,

506
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 5: like sometimes we're so worried about the policy you don't

507
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 5: ask the hard question and then really get an understanding.

508
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 5: So it's like, I'd rather you ask it in the

509
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 5: wrong way to a friend than go out and say

510
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 5: the wrong thing to like a population, especially with you

511
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 5: doing a platform and all that you guys do, I'd

512
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 5: rather be like a source of information versus like.

513
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: A few people try to come for us. It's like

514
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: even we don't even be saying nothing crazy for real,

515
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: It's like you can't say shit like and I'm gonna

516
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: say what the fuck I want, right, and I never disrespect.

517
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: And never trying to offend, you know, there's never to go.

518
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: We all, we is a loving space here, but sometimes

519
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: we do a fend. I remember one time, this is

520
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: all right, y'all, I'm just gonna I'm not gonna say

521
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: the actual word because al right, back in the nineties,

522
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands or nineties especially, the F

523
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: word was not as like we would say it like

524
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: as a joke.

525
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: To each other, to a heterosexual person.

526
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, to a head of sexual person. So I didn't Yeah,

527
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: So I didn't know that it was an offensive word,

528
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: you know. So I was using it toward gay men,

529
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: but I didn't know that it was a slur.

530
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: Right.

531
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 4: So I was in Atlanta.

532
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: And they're gonna get you together.

533
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, it's a lot of f's

534
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: out here, right, because it was a lot, and it

535
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: was at the gas station. It was nothing, but but

536
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 2: I said that. But I didn't think it was I

537
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: didn't like very loud, very loud, and I didn't I

538
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: didn't mean it. Yeah, but they let me know very

539
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: quickly that I was out of line.

540
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: But they can't use it though.

541
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: It's like the N word, right, I mean it still

542
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: I think like it's not like widely used even inside

543
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: of our community.

544
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: I don't hear a lot of people use it on

545
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: the day to day basis.

546
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: I mean you're hear it on like certain shows and

547
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: different things, but like on the day to day, like

548
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: going through life, I don't really.

549
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: Hear people use it. Like like I hear people said

550
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: the N word. You don't hear people said the F

551
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: work like that. Interesting.

552
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I thought they didn't.

553
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: Okay, So how about punk?

554
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah I used punk on a daily basis. Yeah, yeah,

555
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm likely to call somebody apart. I'm like, oh.

556
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: Wow, well they called me all right, so this they

557
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: was like calling They was like fish, they call me fish?

558
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: What did that mean?

559
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Know? We called girls fishing, so that it's generally a term,

560
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: like it's just like a fish is a woman.

561
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 5: So so they just go hand in hand. I don't

562
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: know the whole backstory where it came from But.

563
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: Is that about our vaginas?

564
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: I would assume somaid, But I don't know.

565
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 5: I just have heard it my whole like gay life,

566
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 5: that called the girl's fish.

567
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fish the trade, you know, but oh.

568
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: He given fish like that's aiment.

569
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's given woman.

570
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, you know what they said. It was

571
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: what they said in front of the fish. I wouldn't

572
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't offended by fish because I didn't know what

573
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: to me. I enjoy fish fried, you know how. But

574
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: it's like, we gonna beat your ass fish. That's what

575
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: they said, had.

576
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: They beat your glass? Yeah?

577
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: Where were you at Atlanta? And the quick trip?

578
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: At a quick trip? Y'all got to get it right.

579
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: It's the quick trip in Atlanta.

580
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: But I learned very quickly that that was a slur,

581
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: you know, and then I got myself together and never

582
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: said it again.

583
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling another woman, girl, it's giving fish to get

584
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: your gud damn it sures card out right and go

585
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: to the doctor.

586
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: Your bandmance is all okay, yeah, okay. So that's a

587
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: good thing if they like you, okay fish, But it's

588
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: a bad thing if they as is like your girl.

589
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, all right, but if there's any time anything

590
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 5: beat your ass, anything you say after that is bad.

591
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: So said, like I'm gonna beat your glass, beautiful queen.

592
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: Still get it's still the quick Trip, right.

593
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: I knew it was time to go.

594
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: Okay, this is why I drive electric, so I don't

595
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 5: have to go to the Quick Trip. But anymore, hey, god.

596
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: No more for me, not even for the ice.

597
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

598
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: So if your sister.

599
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: Could meet me at the Quick Trip? Oh yeah, so

600
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: you can get your ice to return it? All right? So, oh,

601
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: I said, I apologize for that word.

602
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: We can see that because episode.

603
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean it like that.

604
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Guys, I don't want no problems.

605
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: All right.

606
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: You had a very particular question for Philip, and I

607
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: would like to start there.

608
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Okay. So I had one of my Instagram friends, Guy,

609
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: I saw him comment on this. It was like a

610
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: like a cookout or like a concert or something.

611
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: It was all.

612
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: In that finance. Dude, he played in the Wizard of

613
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: Oars and he's he's a scarecrow.

614
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Everybody was funny.

615
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: What's his name?

616
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's fun who.

617
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, y'all. He's a gay. He clearly he's gay.

618
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: He could sing, and he played in the Wizard.

619
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: He can see every.

620
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: I got it.

621
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm already asked your question. I'm gonna find his name.

622
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

623
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was a video with a bunch of

624
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: beautiful black men that they were clearly all gay because

625
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: there's no women in the video when he was a

626
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: guy singing on the mic and whatever singing on the

627
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: mic anyway, so I saw, you know, there was a

628
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: whole plethora of feels and comments under the post and

629
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: a common theme. And I know we kind of talked

630
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: about this before we started recording. Y'all said, y'all had

631
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: never seen this, but this is actually I saw a

632
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: person that I know personally comment and say, you know,

633
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: and black women stay hanging with them niggas, you know,

634
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: like and then I've also seen like black women single mothers, right,

635
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: we are a response. I'm not a single mom and

636
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I won't be a single mom, but single mothers are

637
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: are are single handedly responsible for gay black men existing.

638
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: And also, you know, just anything bad in our community

639
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: is anything anybody perceives bad in our community. And not

640
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: to say that being gay is bad, That's not what

641
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but obviously the people who feel.

642
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: This way, have that perception exactly.

643
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's just such a it's such a

644
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 5: misspoken perception because black women have historically held up black

645
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 5: man through so many different things, you know, Like yeah,

646
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: as a culture held up, the culture held of the

647
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 5: people help lead so many initiatives.

648
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: It's just.

649
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: You can't focus on the ignorance of other people, right, Like,

650
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 5: if that's how you feel, feel that quietly in your

651
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: corner because like no one cares, and you're probably like

652
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: not doing too much in your space as is.

653
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: But for the rest of us living in life, those

654
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: of us living in the real world, Like, I.

655
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: Come from a powerful black Black woman, and I come

656
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: from a household that is a mother and father together.

657
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: My parents have been married since eighteen years old. Okay,

658
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: So to think that, oh, single moms are black women

659
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 5: make gay kids. My brother is not gay at all,

660
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: And like we grew up in the same house, in

661
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: the same love and the same light, grew up in

662
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 5: the church. The whole thing had nothing to do with

663
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 5: my sexuality. And many of my friends have married parents

664
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 5: that are black, strong families and the mom doesn't make

665
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: the person gay. Like that's just how life works out.

666
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: I know some people that have single moms and they

667
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: are straight, and know people that have single moms and

668
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: they are gay. How is that a variable? Like what

669
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: statistic did you base that off of?

670
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Right?

671
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: And nobody ever, I don't know.

672
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: I don't based off right now I'm saying from the

673
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: conversation chat. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

674
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: I just don't know. And then you know, nobody ever

675
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: says anything about the absent parent, right right, the superstar. Yeah,

676
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the absent parent doesn't get blame for anything. There's no

677
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: accountability when it comes and it's still the man, right,

678
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: The man doesn't have to take accountability for anything because,

679
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: first of all, everybody comes out the bottom of a

680
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: man's nuts. First. Okay, so we've got a.

681
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: Problem with a gay man.

682
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: He came out of your ball. Well wait, but about it?

683
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: But all right, so wait, because I thought we were

684
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: in our grandmother's before we were ever in our mother's.

685
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: Well, al right, you're talking about so that's a midochondrial

686
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: DN is transferred through all of us, through through the female,

687
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: through the woman. Right. But just like a man can't

688
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: come in the sock and create a baby, right, so

689
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: they have to put the baby in us to cultivate it,

690
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: and then some of us, some of what we are,

691
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: who we are, does imprint on the child too. You

692
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. But that is like I feel

693
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: like maybe we should just leave the kids with the man.

694
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think, like God, we should we should

695
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: focus less on that and focus more on like kids.

696
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: Why is it that somebody has to be blamed for

697
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 5: somebody's to say to be exactly to be gay, or

698
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: somebody's lifestyle that listened to be gay, like just because

699
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: of who that whoever's in those comments saying those things

700
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: like well, what about you and what decisions? This is

701
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: your mom's fault that you made a poor decision at

702
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: some point if you're looking at it from that negative mindset,

703
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: like if you've been to jail's out also your mom's fault.

704
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: Like how does that? How does that all make sense?

705
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 5: I just don't get the line that because my mother

706
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 5: did this, now this happens. Like, how about we go

707
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 5: to therapy and you do your work on yourself. I

708
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 5: understand you because you're focused so much on like this

709
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: negative light on the black gay man, but like, what

710
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 5: about working on yourself? Then you would have less time

711
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: to worry about what the hell I got going on

712
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: over here? All right, we prefer that you go to therapy,

713
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 5: work on yourself.

714
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: Mission number one.

715
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: Ain't none of that. But can I be I can

716
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: I be completely honest?

717
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

718
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: So when I saw that video and I saw all

719
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: those fine ass black men and I knew none of

720
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: them wanted to fuck me, I was sad, Like there's

721
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: a part of me.

722
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: That did get sad, like.

723
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: That one of them might have been my husband. Though

724
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: now none of.

725
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Them could be your husband, right, your husband is still

726
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: out there, like there's still more men than those men

727
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: in the video.

728
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but can you understand like where I'd be, like

729
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: feel like a way like damn.

730
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: Why can't we have fire men as well? Like I

731
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: can't have a husband too.

732
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I get it, but you get what

733
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like not jealous in that way, Like I

734
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: just feel like two men, Like the money is crazy

735
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: in the house, like two successful records people.

736
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: Households is definitely where it's at.

737
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like working in tech, two men working in tech.

738
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, say you're doing all right? Yeah, the household is good.

739
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 5: I had a thousand okay, no kids, maybe just one,

740
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 5: you know, Yeah, livings jealous. I don't know, right, I mean,

741
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: but like, statistically there's there's a small portion of like

742
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 5: gay men are gay people in the world.

743
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: We look at like the great ratio versus the gay ratio.

744
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, we did.

745
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 5: We're all together in one space often because that we

746
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: have to find a space that can reflect us.

747
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: Otherwise we spend all day in like a heteronormative world.

748
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 6: So like you think it's still like that even today, Yeah,

749
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 6: I went to work this week, but it was just me, okay, yeah,

750
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 6: you know, like I think that when you look when

751
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 6: you really look at the bigger numbers, like I'm a

752
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 6: statistics that a person that's kind of like from my career.

753
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 5: So when you look at raw numbers, like there's just

754
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: there's millions more heterosexual people than are gay people. So

755
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: when you see us, we find each other. That's how

756
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: we have pride, that's how we go out and do

757
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: these different things.

758
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: People there though, yeah.

759
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: Because we all go it's like a concentrated.

760
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's concentrated.

761
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 5: So you see it as like, oh, there's all these people,

762
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 5: but it's like it's a it's it's a call to

763
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: action because we have to stick together. Because it's a

764
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 5: smaller amount of us, so we are still a very

765
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 5: much a minority.

766
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: The stats on that, because I feel like everybody is

767
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: like queer, not everybody, But.

768
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: What's what does that even mean? Because what's gay like?

769
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: It's a lot of letters. I don't know all of them.

770
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: So it is.

771
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: So what is the difference? What is the difference between

772
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: gay and queer?

773
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: Just the way that people prefer to identify.

774
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: So some people may not want to identify as gay

775
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: as being a person who is who is just there.

776
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 5: They may be queer and have some more fluidity. So

777
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 5: it just allows you a little bit more flexibility in

778
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: how you decide that you want to identify. I identify

779
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: as a gay black man. I used to identify as

780
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: a by black man. Shout out to my ex girlfriend,

781
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 5: Nice to see you. But but you know, over time,

782
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: you know, you can choose your representation of yourself, you know.

783
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 5: So that's really what all the letters are for, is

784
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: that you're finding which space you feel most comfortable, and

785
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 5: queer just usually fits more for like an umbrella.

786
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: So then what does by me? So what's the difference

787
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: between by?

788
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: All right?

789
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: So all right, hold on, now, it's just.

790
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: What they want to go by. So some people just

791
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: like the word queer. It sounds fun, I guess.

792
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 4: So it's just just wordplay.

793
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: It's selection.

794
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 5: Like if you're given in life, you're giving options, right,

795
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 5: Like why do we have to fit ourselves into some

796
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: norm to make other people uncomfortable? Just because you don't

797
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 5: understand it doesn't mean that you don't have to just

798
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: allow them to let them live in their lives. Like

799
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: I don't identify as queer, but if you tell me

800
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: that you're queer, okay, great, Like now I respect you.

801
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: Is that if you tell me that you're a woman,

802
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna respect you. Is that right?

803
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: So it's it's just simply have a general respect for people.

804
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 5: However they want to identify, show up in the world.

805
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 5: That's their business, okay, Like you know, okay, all right.

806
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm I guess I'm old. I'm an

807
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: older millennial. So like I just try to like wrap

808
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: my mind around what exactly because I know what gay is,

809
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: I know what bias, I know what a man is,

810
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: I know what a woman is. But when I hear queer,

811
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: it sounds like it don't have like a real identity

812
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: for me. So I'm trying to like understand it so

813
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: I can know what it is, but whenever I ask,

814
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: it's still it's still like so vague.

815
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's designed to be more vague in general.

816
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 5: I think that's the premise of queers, that it allows

817
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 5: a little bit more freedom and flexibility in that space.

818
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 5: Because if I'm like, let's say that I'm I started

819
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: out as a straight man, and now I've decided I'm

820
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 5: going to experiment with guys and identify as a gay man,

821
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: like as in dating women, It's hard to go back

822
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 5: from that once you say, like on a platform like

823
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 5: oh I'm a gay man, it's a rap for you.

824
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: You're like, you know, it's like you are not getting that.

825
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: I don't. It's never happening, you know. So it's like

826
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: it gives you a little bit more flexibility to like

827
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: to explore it, is what I would feeling.

828
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: So do you feel like women can go back and

829
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: forth but men are not allowed to?

830
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think that's a conversation that people

831
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 5: have had so many times, Like women and we always

832
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 5: talk about women in college and how they were able

833
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: to experiment and they go back and they're married and

834
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 5: have three kids, happily ever after.

835
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: Right as a man, it's it's different, you know.

836
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: And if you think about your own life and scenario,

837
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: just like, are you going to date the man who

838
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: tells you that, hey, I had a phase in college

839
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 5: and I experimented.

840
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: Are you open to that? Are you not open to that? Like?

841
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: What would y'all perspective be?

842
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be open to that, right would?

843
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be open to that because I think there

844
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: is a certain mindset, right that may not align with mine.

845
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm not that fucking flexible. Okay, So I just feel like, but.

846
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: He's not that anymore. He just he just tried it, right,

847
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: you come back, you come back.

848
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's why I don't want to

849
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: compete with men and women, and it will always like

850
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: we go out and I'm looking at a fine nigga,

851
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my nigga to see if.

852
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: He looking at that nigga too.

853
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: I ain't got tied. That's too much stress.

854
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: And unless I guess, unless you're a queer woman, right,

855
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing is is that black man, you

856
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: can get whatever type of woman you want, right, You

857
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: could be honest with yourself first, that's what where it starts,

858
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: and then you can find whatever type woman that's okay

859
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: with however you are presenting right. I had a conversation

860
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: with one of my friend's friends.

861
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: He does.

862
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he even considers himself gay. He is

863
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: attracted to women because he actually asked me if I

864
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: wanted to have a baby with him, And I'm like,

865
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: what he actually asked before?

866
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: Y'all?

867
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 5: So I don't know, Like I still want when you

868
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: got it okay, and I still want to love it, okay,

869
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 5: pack it.

870
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: Up you later. Similar your friend was not he was

871
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: asking you for a baby.

872
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: And he's a big guy too.

873
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: He does here a nice looking man though, and he's

874
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: not like he always says like I'm so glad I'm

875
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: not like gay gay, like like I'm so glad I'm

876
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: not a punk, you know, because it's just different. It's

877
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: levels to this ship level. So he's more so attracted

878
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: to masculinity. I don't know what he sees in me.

879
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Maybe yes, I don't know. So he says he's attracted

880
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: to masculinity, not really necessarily man or woman, like he

881
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: and a man or a woman. But we had a

882
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: hard down conversation the first day I met him about

883
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: why it's not. He was saying, it's not important for

884
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: a woman to know if a man has slept with

885
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: another man before, and I'm like, yes, the fuck it is.

886
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: First of all, if I ask you anything, you should

887
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: be honest with me.

888
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: Right.

889
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: If you feel like you gotta lie about that, there's

890
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: a problem.

891
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but society makes a culture.

892
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 5: It's where people feel that they have to lie about

893
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: those things because you're not going to find acceptance in

894
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: most people.

895
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: So I think that's.

896
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: But I won't sleep.

897
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's well, yeah, that's the problem because he

898
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: wants you to sleep. Yeah.

899
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: So now we're back to just men being men and

900
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: just not having integrity and lying to get the draw. Like,

901
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: just tell the truth and then you'll find somebody who's

902
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: okay with that truth.

903
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: Right. I think that's accurate.

904
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: I just think people should be able to have a

905
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: little more flexibility and understanding of people, like understand that

906
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: people have had a lived experience. But then maybe that

907
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: has evolved over time. And now this is where I am,

908
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: and you know, meet him there if you can. But

909
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 5: you know, I think, in general, I think that people

910
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: have so many cutofs for people as to why not

911
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 5: to deal with them. It's like, that's why everybody's single,

912
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: and that's why won al's get married anymore. That's why

913
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: all this is going on, because everything is a reason

914
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: to get rid of that man. Anything a straight man does,

915
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: he's gay. I swear, because they said signed nigga.

916
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: That man with a hot dog, damn n.

917
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: He can't even have a hot This man can't go

918
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: to Costco.

919
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: Nigga smoke and hohokahs hookah. Like anything a man does

920
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: is automatically gay. That is so weird men doing that.

921
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: Though I don't say everything the man does is gay.

922
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: I see men doing that.

923
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's mostly men that, like, you know,

924
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: creating my content must be different than y'all because it's women,

925
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: women doing saying like, oh that's the gay. Oh yeah,

926
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: I guess you're right. There is some of that.

927
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: It might be a mixed right, it might be, yeah,

928
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: but it's not. I just I just hate when people

929
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: just be trying to act like women are the only

930
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: ones doing some shit.

931
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 5: No, it's definitely not only women. It's a societal it's

932
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: a deeper issue.

933
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, people just are added to that list

934
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 4: as a joke.

935
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: If a woman asks a man, hey, have you been

936
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: with a man before? Do you think that's something that

937
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: she needs to know or do you feel like it's

938
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: none of her business and he doesn't really have to No.

939
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 5: I think if someone is asking you anything in transparency,

940
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: you should be transparent. Like when I came out, I

941
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 5: came out as by and then when I dated girls

942
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: at that time, I would like, if they asked me

943
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 5: any kind of question like that, I would own up

944
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: to it.

945
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I've actually.

946
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: Like you know, I've done They would have god done

947
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 5: it there or two, and most of the time that

948
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 5: would be the end of the it's like dang vibe.

949
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: So it's nice to be cheap. Yeah, it would wrap

950
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: it up, you know.

951
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: But from time to time you'd come on Connor girl,

952
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 5: who will be like, okay, tell me more and have

953
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: more conversation. And then that was a better situation, a

954
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: better situation for me. But you know, I lives in

955
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 5: Atlanta for a while, and then I feel like girls

956
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 5: would approach and even know like I feel like I

957
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: present as more of a gay man now and they would.

958
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: Approach it like, oh, that's called day by guys.

959
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 5: They would kind of come more forward with the like, oh,

960
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 5: day by guys, I'm trying to I'm trying to holler,

961
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, well all right, let's go to dinner.

962
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of women, I've seen black women

963
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: say that they prefer by sexual women, And I don't

964
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: know if it's like an emotional thing, like you know,

965
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: gay men are probably tapped into their femininity more more

966
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: emotional sensitive, and maybe that maybe those women want a

967
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: little bit more femininity but still want a man.

968
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little more understanding too, like a person who

969
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 5: understands more about where you've been, where your where your

970
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 5: storyline is kind of they've had experience on both sides,

971
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 5: so can tap in a little a little bit different,

972
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: but you know, to each own.

973
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: I guess, would you date a man who's bisexual? Yeah,

974
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: you wouldn't make a difference.

975
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: You Nope, wouldn't make a difference to me at all.

976
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 5: I just feel like for me, I'm already on the

977
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: further side, Like it's harder for them to be able

978
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: to voice the outcome.

979
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, so is there any like boundaries

980
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: like like that, what are your boundaries when it comes

981
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: to dating or is it just about the individual for you?

982
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: Well, I would say I'm more I don't know.

983
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: I've never been approached by anybody that was trans to

984
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: know that if that would be something I would even consider.

985
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 5: I think like the my usual type has been more

986
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: of like a like an open man, like I don't

987
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: like to date like the d L discreet, Like that's

988
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 5: not really what I'm looking for.

989
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: I like a man who knows that he likes men,

990
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: and I'm okay with that.

991
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Openly likes men. Have you have you ever dealt with

992
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: a man who was like because I mean, you don't

993
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: want to like, have you? Because you don't want to

994
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: force somebody to like out them?

995
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 3: You know? Yeah, yeah, you don't want to force anybody

996
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: out of.

997
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: Their class weaponized being engaged sometimes like some gay guys

998
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: might weaponize it.

999
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 5: Somebody when people do that, Like people gave you the

1000
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 5: space to come through, to come find your voice at

1001
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: some point, like let other people have the space to

1002
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 5: do that. And if you're not, if they can't do

1003
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 5: that with you, then don't deal with them, Like you're

1004
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 5: making a choice to deal with them now you.

1005
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: Want to out them. It's like that's that's childish, like

1006
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: grow up.

1007
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean, but I've never been in a

1008
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: space where I felt like I had to out a

1009
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 5: man or I was going to deal with a man

1010
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 5: and then he I my younger age, you know what

1011
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like.

1012
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: I've been with some DL guys, Like I'm not avoiding that.

1013
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: It's definitely a thing of attraction, like oh, he's super masculine,

1014
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 5: like you know, he's a man nobody would ever know,

1015
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: Like it's a certain attraction that comes to that, like

1016
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: the hyper masculinity.

1017
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: But I'm not pushing that man out of closet. That's

1018
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: that man's business.

1019
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: And that's dangerous to do that to someone honestly, right.

1020
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely definitely dangerous. I just try not to mess

1021
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 5: with it. Like I've always had a standard, like I'm

1022
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 5: not messing with married people. If you' married to a

1023
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 5: man or a woman, like that's just the line I'm

1024
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 5: never willing to to cross. Like I'm not sleeping with

1025
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 5: anybody's haysband ever in life.

1026
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: What about their wife.

1027
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 3: Or their wife? You know, I've been so long since

1028
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: I've been with a girl, I was like I forgot

1029
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: I gotta put them in a mixed.

1030
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: All right, hello, I got another question. Well okay, okay,

1031
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: fan man face, we can take all of this out.

1032
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: That's a little break, Okay.

1033
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: You know I'm hot. Yeah, I don't think I say

1034
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 3: anything grazy. Yeah, but you'll send it to me before yeah, yeah, yeah.

1035
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: So in the workspace, do you feel like you have

1036
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: to like tone down your like gayness.

1037
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how to identity, I guess.

1038
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1039
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: No, I can honestly say, like, for the spaces that

1040
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 5: I've worked in, I've been able to be one hundred

1041
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 5: percent authentically myself even when I did time I was

1042
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 5: in the military as well, when you did time, when

1043
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: I did time in the military. Yeah, when I did

1044
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: six years in the Air Force, I really wasn't a

1045
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 5: place where where I was very supported, you know, and

1046
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 5: I was able to like be awarded for my work

1047
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 5: and recognize and I was openly and outwardly.

1048
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: Gay cause the military was like a kind of like

1049
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: don't ass, don't tail for a long time.

1050
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: I came in like right after the don ass don't

1051
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: tell things. Yes, because we should be able to like

1052
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 5: you should be able to be yourself. It's like, if

1053
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: I'm willing to serve my country. Why does my sexuality

1054
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 5: have to.

1055
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: Do with that?

1056
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. You can be gay, but you

1057
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: can't have eyelashes. That's crazy, right, you can't. Like they

1058
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: just have passed a new law that you can't have

1059
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 2: no eyelash. Yeah, you wouldn't be able to get in there,

1060
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: of course.

1061
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 3: Why yeah, figure, that's.

1062
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 5: A lot of it is more or less about like

1063
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: the aesthetic and more about like the gear. You know,

1064
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 5: like if you're if you deploy or something and you

1065
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 5: have these these things on, it's not it's not okay.

1066
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 5: Even like when we deploy, I can't have this. I

1067
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 5: can have my beard, it has to all be shaved

1068
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 5: off because your gas.

1069
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: Be scraping.

1070
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 5: It's gonna work, okay, It's like safety, it's safety, you know.

1071
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: But also like the military for historically has had a

1072
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 5: long lineage of like these are standing how you're going

1073
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 5: to appear.

1074
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: There's a lot of appearance guidelines.

1075
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, so it's not the same thing. Basically,

1076
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: it's not in my.

1077
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 5: Book, But I'm sure other people that are in that

1078
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 5: space of living that experience today may feel differently.

1079
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: But for me, that's how I felt.

1080
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt like you had to choose between

1081
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: being black and gay.

1082
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 5: No, I'm I'm super black, Like I'm black first, like

1083
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 5: in my mind, like I was born black.

1084
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: I came before I ever knew what gay was. I

1085
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: was black.

1086
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: So like I'm a black man and nobody can flex

1087
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 5: me on that ever, but I just also am a

1088
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 5: gay man. Like it's just these are It's a full sentence,

1089
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 5: Like why do I have to pick a side for what?

1090
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: For who? For society? Y'all can't even figure out y'all

1091
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: bill schedule? Okay? Correct?

1092
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Why is corn showing so high? I'm on the phone yesterday.

1093
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you could do auto pay and it

1094
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: takes no bitch, I'm not that responsible.

1095
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: Oh I let them auto pay everything because I'm not

1096
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm responsible, not responsible enough to remember. Yeah, so I

1097
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: just let them take their money.

1098
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: Until no, I got it, so two to three days

1099
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: after the actual dudate to pay you.

1100
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 5: If it was not auto pay, I would be fun

1101
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 5: mortgage for Okay, I forgot to right, That's how I am.

1102
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't forget to pat it.

1103
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 3: I forget everything, forget.

1104
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm no morel the one like why the funk?

1105
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 3: I'm so bro, everybody took it.

1106
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's yeah.

1107
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: I gotta eat these porky bees rice, right, because that's

1108
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: how I got that left.

1109
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 5: But everybody got their money. We don't have to pick

1110
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 5: between being black and gay.

1111
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: Some people do, though, like they think that they like

1112
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: they identified with being gay before they identify with being

1113
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: a black person. Like when the when all these different

1114
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: struggles come up, because I mean, like listen, gay people

1115
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: know how to galvanize and get shipped the funk done.

1116
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: That is what I have seen over the last.

1117
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: Ten years, right correct, Gay rights is definitely moving faster

1118
00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: than black Do you feel like, mmm, like y'all know that's.

1119
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: You really are black people? Are black gay people even

1120
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: a part of that movement? Like y'all think y'all might

1121
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: be a part.

1122
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: Of it, part of which movement of gay rights? Yeah, yeah,

1123
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean I think it's it's it's a tough question.

1124
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Because well, I notice is rapid fire shy every time

1125
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: like there's this is why I'm asking this because it

1126
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: seems like every time there's like some litered uh some

1127
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: what is the word I'm looking for? God damn not

1128
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: litigation literation. Anytime there is some like things that are

1129
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: trying to be done for black people in particular, right,

1130
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: they always have to throw like it's like they throw

1131
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: like the sub thing in there, and they throw like

1132
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: a gay element into it. We're all black, know what

1133
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like it's like a old like a

1134
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: covert way of doing things sometimes, and I don't think

1135
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: that it ever benefits the gay the gay gay people

1136
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 1: or black people. It's something else they're trying to push,

1137
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: but they use that as like a front.

1138
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that we're we can be both, and

1139
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 5: I think that you have to stop Yeah good word,

1140
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 5: yeah scrabble, right, but we have to stop trying to

1141
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: put it put ourselves in a box, Like why are

1142
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 5: we trying to limit it? You're you are also black,

1143
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 5: but you're also a woman, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1144
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: yeah you are right, Okay, Okay, congratulations, right, all right,

1145
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: you're unique. Okay, but yeah, you know, so we are

1146
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 5: who we are. So it's like, if I'm standing up

1147
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: for myself, I'm going to stand there for all of me.

1148
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 5: Why do I have to just stand up for the

1149
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 5: black piece or just stand up for the gay piece.

1150
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 5: I'm going to stand up for all of me, And

1151
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that with any apology. And

1152
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 5: like you know, people sometimes well just take the take

1153
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 5: the gay part out, well you take the other part

1154
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: of you out. How you can't because you are the

1155
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 5: whole person. I can't just be a piece of it, Okay,

1156
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 5: right you can't. You can't, right, Like it's me, It's

1157
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 5: not on me?

1158
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: Then, So what about spaces like barbershops? Do you feel like.

1159
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: I go to a Dominican barber having a time in there,

1160
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: you know his ass.

1161
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: But do you feel like like barbershops are like because

1162
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: I always think of like barbershops save spaces for black

1163
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: men to almost receive therapy. Do you feel like gay

1164
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: black men are included in that.

1165
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 5: I can only really talk about this from my perspective,

1166
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: which I feel like is a bit different because I'm

1167
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 5: so open about having conversation with people in the black barbershop.

1168
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: People have convo with me, they like, bro, let me

1169
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 5: ask you about this, Like they're willing to unpack whatever

1170
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 5: the dialogue, whether the conversation is, and have those uncomfortable

1171
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 5: conversations and say the words that they're not supposed to say.

1172
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 5: And no, I'm not going a trip and just like

1173
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 5: we can really have conversation. So to me, it's been

1174
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 5: a safe space because people are more like, hey, bros,

1175
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: waiting for you to come in this week. Bruh, this

1176
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 5: boy was I was counting he talking about and then

1177
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 5: they want to talk to me about that experience. So

1178
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 5: I think that it can be a safe space. And

1179
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 5: I think a lot of black barbers now that I've

1180
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: been experiencing, are creatives.

1181
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: In a certain way. They be in the studio, they

1182
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: got other kind of stuff going on. They you know,

1183
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: have gay barbers.

1184
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 5: So I think people are just more open to conversation

1185
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 5: if you're open to not going off every time somebody

1186
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 5: says something offensive, but really being open to having a dialogue.

1187
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1188
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 5: But growing up as a kid and like realizing, like

1189
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 5: in my journey of realizing that I was gay, and

1190
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: being at the barbershop, like, oh, let me just sit

1191
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 5: up straight and put some base in my voice, you know,

1192
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 5: let me you know, just my daddy barbershop.

1193
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: Let me get it together.

1194
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 5: But as you find your own spaces, like I'm a

1195
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 5: person where I'm gonna go where I'm celebrated. So if

1196
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 5: I go to the barbershop, but you make me feel

1197
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 5: weird this the last fifty dollars you gonna get because

1198
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 5: I go to the barber shop every week. So if

1199
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 5: you add that up and you cool missing out that

1200
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: much money because I like boys, Right, that's on you

1201
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: as a businessman.

1202
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Right.

1203
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: One thing we know about black gay man is that

1204
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 5: we have what we call expendable in Okay.

1205
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: So I go every week and get my hair cuts.

1206
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: So my barbera loves seeing me. His birthday just came up.

1207
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: I gave him a bottle, like, you know, like we're

1208
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: best friends.

1209
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: God didn't hit me up on Instagram and he uh,

1210
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: something we might have talked about on the episode he

1211
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: was speaking to and he said he he does find

1212
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: that he gets business done better with gay black men

1213
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to sexual black men. Like gay black men

1214
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: do better business. I don't know what average woman, right,

1215
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean the average man. No, the average woman is

1216
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: equivalent to like top tier man.

1217
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: That's what we think.

1218
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: Average average shit we do on a daily basis. So yeah,

1219
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: he felt like he just he never got shipped on

1220
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 1: by a gay man in business. But when it comes

1221
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: to them niggas.

1222
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know. I don't know. That's such a

1223
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: hard thing.

1224
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 5: Because I feel like I get my business mind from

1225
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 5: my dad. My dad is about his business. He's cold,

1226
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. He's always going to be

1227
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: on top of his grind. So I just don't I

1228
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 5: don't know where it comes from. I think that some

1229
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 5: people have it and some people don't.

1230
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: But and there's nothing to do with your sexuality.

1231
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 5: I don't think it has to do with sexuality. I

1232
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: think it has to do with mind state, and like,

1233
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: you know how you were brought up, you know, I mean,

1234
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: I guess, but my dad came from it, so he

1235
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 5: found a way.

1236
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: What would you tell to a young gay or a

1237
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: young black man who feels gay and doesn't know how

1238
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: to come out to their family.

1239
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 5: I would tell him, don't rush it, Like what's the

1240
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 5: You do it for you, not for the satisfaction of

1241
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 5: other people. Like if you really want to come out

1242
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 5: as you're ready for that, do that. But if you're not,

1243
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 5: don't put pressure. I don't care if everybody around your

1244
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 5: town we can see, we can tell that you're being gay, Like,

1245
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 5: it does not matter.

1246
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: Do what you need to do.

1247
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 5: Focus on yourself, build your brain, build your identity, and

1248
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 5: then when you're confident, in who the hell you are

1249
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 5: and you can stand on that, then stand on that.

1250
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 5: But until you feel grounded, don't let anybody for yeah,

1251
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: because when you come out, it's a situation where it's

1252
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 5: it's not an easy thing to reverse. So come out

1253
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 5: when you're stable and you're structured and you're in a

1254
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 5: good place. Build yourself a community of people that you know,

1255
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 5: you can trust and.

1256
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: You can rely on.

1257
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 5: Because when I came out, you know, like it was

1258
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 5: just I was confident. I was like, I don't care

1259
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: what happens from here.

1260
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: This is it.

1261
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 5: I'm moving forward. And I She told my my friend Ashley,

1262
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: and she was my brother's baby mother as well. I

1263
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 5: told her first, because like, you gotta help me tell

1264
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 5: these straight brothers.

1265
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: That I got that I are you concerned with how

1266
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: they were?

1267
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? I was shaking in my boots. I was like,

1268
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I know they love me, but I'm

1269
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: just like, right, because what.

1270
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: People like, okay with the conversation around like a man

1271
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: not being able to tell a woman because they're gonna

1272
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: be judged or whatever. Right, I really be feeling like

1273
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: men have a tough time coming out because they're more

1274
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: so concerned about what the friends that know them, you know,

1275
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: since they ever right they want to say about them.

1276
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a genuine concern because these are

1277
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 5: the people that you want love, that have supported you,

1278
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 5: that like, these are the people's opinion that you actually

1279
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 5: care about, You care less about, like when I came out,

1280
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: care less about what society thought.

1281
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: I was more worried about, like what's my brother gonna think?

1282
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: What's my mom gonna think? You know? That was the highlight.

1283
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 5: I mean, ultimately, when I told them, they were just like, oh,

1284
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 5: you fucking flame, and they laughed and they right, they

1285
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 5: laughed and they hug and it's like, we do not

1286
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 5: care like we genuinely love you. And then they came

1287
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 5: out with me. When I went out that day and

1288
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: I was telling everybody else about I told the whole

1289
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 5: world I was hanging from around, I was like, I'm

1290
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 5: body like, that's my gay brother right there, and I

1291
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 5: love them, and if anybody got something to say about them,

1292
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 5: it's gonna be problems.

1293
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: Right Well, I mean that's what what everybody would want,

1294
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: but unfortunately that.

1295
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: Is that's not always the case. That's what I'm saying.

1296
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 5: You gotta do it when you're confident because I was

1297
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: gonna do it at that day, whether or not they

1298
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 5: took my side or not. If they came with me

1299
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 5: and were willing to support me, I was ready for that.

1300
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 5: If they said otherwise they weren't gona support me, I

1301
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: was ready for that.

1302
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: I was ready.

1303
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 5: So if you're a young black gay man or young

1304
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 5: gay man in general, and you are feeling that you're ready,

1305
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 5: make sure that you're solid than who you are. First,

1306
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 5: don't ever step out on unsolid ground for the sake

1307
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 5: of others.

1308
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: Did you ever have like any older family members that

1309
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: were like mm mmm, like that wasn't supportive. Like my grandmother,

1310
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: let me tell you, God rest her soul. But she

1311
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: was just like a very old school, very traditional, very

1312
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: Bible toting, Bible thumping country ass old lady. And she

1313
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: used to always accuse me of being gay and accused yes,

1314
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: because I would wear hats and stuff like that, and

1315
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 2: she like, it's got on that man hat.

1316
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: She wasn't all born with it at all.

1317
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: Like I would walk by all right, So I used

1318
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: to wear those little It wasn't Kano it was like Kano.

1319
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: Style, but it was like it was a style and

1320
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Speaker 4: I would walk by.

1321
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: My family, like just be sitting outside or something and

1322
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, y'all and I'll walk by, and

1323
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: then I hear everybody laughing and I look bad. Yeah,

1324
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: Grandma backg reading me, Dawn. Do it like that? I

1325
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: told y'all the one right, So do you have like

1326
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: any elders in the family that was just like not

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: as supportive.

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: This is the thing about me, right, I do not care.

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 5: So like I came from a space of like, I'm

1330
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 5: gonna do this because this is who I am, and

1331
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 5: y'all gonna move around like that's just what it was like.

1332
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 5: I just didn't have space for that. And my grandma

1333
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 5: on my dad's side in particular, she was like very

1334
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 5: much for like just be the best, like well, despite

1335
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 5: whatever else they talking about, beat the coldest, be the fastest,

1336
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 5: make the most money, be the coolest, like just be

1337
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 5: one hundred whatever you do, be the best at it.

1338
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 5: So you know, when it came out to me being gay,

1339
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 5: show you the best gay, Well, I'm.

1340
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: The best man that I could be. In general.

1341
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: I got my stuff together. I own multiple properties, like

1342
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 5: I own my own business. I'm move a confidence like

1343
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 5: I'm cold, like it is what it is so when

1344
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 5: it came to like even when coming out to my mom,

1345
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 5: she doesn't remember this, but she told me right, a

1346
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 5: right that bitch.

1347
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 3: And a real nigga.

1348
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 5: But when I told my mom, she was just like,

1349
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 5: if the only thing they can say against you is

1350
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 5: that you're gay, they don't have a conversation. So go

1351
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 5: out and just succeed or whatever it is it has

1352
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 5: going to do. And then that's just what I went

1353
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 5: about doing. So like when I joined the Air Force,

1354
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 5: I was just very good at what I did, and

1355
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 5: like I do do good in my career. So it's

1356
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 5: just whatever you're gonna do, be the best. And then

1357
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 5: it tones that conversation down real goofy, because if you're

1358
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 5: trying to talk about me in a negative way, but

1359
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 5: like you don't have your stuff together.

1360
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: I just really don't have a right for you. Like

1361
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be worried about me. You really should be

1362
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: going to get some business about yourself, right, it should

1363
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: really work on that.

1364
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: I think I think more men are gaining to mind

1365
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: than they will actually be gay. I always you saying that,

1366
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: but I really believe that. I believe that there are

1367
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: men who have these uh this like a homo eroticism mindset, right,

1368
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: but they may never actually act on it, And those

1369
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: are probably the ones who'll be acting the food on

1370
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: the internet talking crazy because they are so jealous of

1371
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: these men being able to live in their truth. It

1372
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: pisses them off because they don't have the courage to

1373
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: do that.

1374
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a it's a that's a two edge of

1375
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 5: sore right there, because then that would you would frame

1376
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 5: that himson being like a gay man. And then but

1377
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: at the same time, he's not acting on it. And

1378
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 5: we all have our demons that we don't act on,

1379
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 5: so that that doesn't make me that right, right, So

1380
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: it's like, how does he win in that space? If

1381
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 5: he goes out and does it and now he's acting

1382
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 5: on this this demon or thing that you that you're

1383
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 5: calling it or whatever you no, like, he's acting on that, right,

1384
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 5: he's acting on this mindset. But then you flip it

1385
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 5: if he does, if he doesn't act on it and

1386
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 5: he comes and marriages, like gets married and has a

1387
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 5: family and stuff, then it's like, oh, but secretly he

1388
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 5: wants to be how.

1389
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: Does he win?

1390
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: You should have been yourself, they want.

1391
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 5: But that is myself. Myself is the man who doesn't

1392
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 5: want to go down that journey. I want to be

1393
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 5: Mary and half kids. I'm being myself, but that's not

1394
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 5: acceptable because I have these thoughts and unpacking and I'm

1395
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 5: working on not alone.

1396
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: You'll never know about those thoughts. The thoughts come out

1397
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: in the way some of the way.

1398
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1399
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: So you you have women, you got all these children,

1400
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: and you don't really like women, and you can tell

1401
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: about how you treat them. So is it is it

1402
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: that you're battling your your sexuality? You just can't say that.

1403
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 3: Could be?

1404
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: Could be?

1405
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 3: Could be? It could be so many things, you know,

1406
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: could be.

1407
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: He could women like I gotta deal with this stitch.

1408
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: I really don't want to. I like hanging with my homeboys.

1409
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: Right. Why think so many things are associated with the fact,

1410
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: like to connect to being gay. But he just might

1411
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 3: be a fucked up person.

1412
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 5: You may have nothing to do suality. People are just

1413
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 5: like screwing a lot of the times and they're going

1414
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 5: through what if it? What if he just disrespectful to women?

1415
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: What if that just is who he is? What if

1416
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: his daddy was that? What if he just is unpacking

1417
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: something like you know, there's so many layers, but we

1418
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 3: always jump.

1419
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 5: To he gotta have something on the low, added to

1420
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 5: the game list, Added to that man, it's just hungry,

1421
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 5: he game right. Oh my gosh, I can't believe he

1422
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 5: disrespectful to his like what how is he supposed to

1423
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 5: show him for you? Like you know, we always jumped

1424
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: straight to okay, he must be doing that.

1425
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I I do that. But

1426
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: let me tell you if I've ever been rejected by

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: a man, I'm like, he's gay.

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: If we walk inself place and we walked past like

1429
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: two three men and they none of them look at

1430
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: us like, y'all gay?

1431
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay? What if? What if he's.

1432
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay?

1433
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: Okay, you gotta be gay? Because do you see me?

1434
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 5: Especially if you've done up? Then they really like I

1435
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 5: got my makeup, all of my ears.

1436
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like okay, but as a gay man, I look,

1437
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: I look, so now what am I straight?

1438
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: Now?

1439
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: Does it?

1440
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 5: Why doesn't it work on reverse? Because if you walk

1441
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: past me with all that ass, I'm gonna check it out.

1442
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: And now you buy on Tuesdays and Wisday late on Thursdays?

1443
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: All right, every no, we gotta we gotta take a shot.

1444
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so we have a sponsor.

1445
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 4: It's Red Leebray.

1446
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: It is a female black owned tequila brand out of Atlanta,

1447
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,480
Speaker 2: and it's nice and smooth. So I have the Peach margarita.

1448
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: We are gonna take a shot of this, and here,

1449
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: pick up your drink. Let's take a shot to Its.

1450
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: Usually supposed to go something like this. This episode and

1451
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: we talked back is brought to you by jayly Bray.

1452
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: That's not even how you say it.

1453
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 3: Er to living in your truth, to living in your truth.

1454
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna have nice glasses next time, y'all.

1455
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1456
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 5: Oh, that's absolutely delicious. I'm definitely gonna need to pick

1457
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 5: some of that up. Yeah it's good, right, Yeah, it's

1458
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 5: like fruity but still smooth.

1459
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 3: I can take the whole shot.

1460
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: I could do that whole bottle like by myself.

1461
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: I feel like, okay, we did correct.

1462
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: Actually, do you have any last questions for Phil before

1463
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: we wrap it up? This is Phil, This is this

1464
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 2: is why I knew you was the perfect person and

1465
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: you didn't need another gay here?

1466
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: Okay, I am.

1467
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much, and listen, I hope if

1468
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: me are aj or Phil said anything to offend, we

1469
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: sorry right now, before y'all even send us those messages

1470
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:55,879
Speaker 2: and comments.

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01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: You're not sorry, No, I'm not ever sorry.

1472
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: Wh Yeah, I don't ever want to offend anyone.

1473
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry though, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you're not so

1474
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: when you offend people, you don't be like, I'm not

1475
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: a how is it offensive? And we sitting here for

1476
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,959
Speaker 1: conversation to get understanding?

1477
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 5: How is anything we can I'm open to having dialogue,

1478
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 5: you know, like I think sometimes things people can be offended,

1479
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 5: and it's okay, let's have more conversation and by all

1480
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 5: means educate us, like, you know, educate me, like if

1481
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 5: we said something wrong, let me know where that where

1482
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 5: that was a conversation and we can have a dialogue

1483
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 5: about it.

1484
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: Because remember we had on my friend's son and he

1485
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: said that we said things that offended here.

1486
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that.

1487
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, he told me personally, and I was like, damn,

1488
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: what did I say? Like always proved right, I'm always

1489
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 2: trying so hard not to offend.

1490
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to be on eggs shells like that

1491
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: because I don't get offended easily.

1492
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 3: I don't get offended easily at all.

1493
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, saying especially if we sitting down having actual dialogue.

1494
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 2: You do.

1495
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 3: You are definitely a kid.

1496
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: I just saying about my piky you been.

1497
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,440
Speaker 3: I am not offended, so by all means.

1498
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: That's me.

1499
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: So that's why I always I'm always trying to get

1500
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: in front of it, you know, because I just don't

1501
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 2: want to offend because I know I'll be offended quick.

1502
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 3: So no, send a message, tell us if you defend,

1503
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: if we offended you.

1504
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 5: But you know, no, we should be able to have

1505
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 5: uncomfortable conversations, and sometimes people may not have a space

1506
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 5: where they have someone they feel comfortable to have that

1507
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 5: conversation with. So your platform was creating a space so

1508
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 5: we could dive into that for those people. If that's

1509
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 5: not for you, then I understand that. But this is

1510
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 5: for those people who need that space.

1511
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: No, well I don't, but I just always want to,

1512
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: like because then now like you're cautious, you can't even

1513
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,879
Speaker 1: tell your true thoughts about things because you're concerned.

1514
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: No I said what I like, I said, I apologize,

1515
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: but no, I apologize. I just apologize because I don't

1516
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: want to. I care about hurting people, so I just

1517
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: don't want to hurt, you know, But tell everybody where

1518
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: they can find you plug all your things. Oh no, no, no,

1519
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 2: Before you do that, we gotta have a SIMP series

1520
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: from you. So we have a segment. You have to

1521
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: share a time that you got played by a person

1522
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: that I got played. I don't know.

1523
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know this was coming.

1524
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 5: Okay, ooh, I like a time I got played.

1525
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 3: Like, what's an example?

1526
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll give you one of mine that I've

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Speaker 2: shared on the show. I was dating this guy. He

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01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: would do nice things for me for a long time. Financially,

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Speaker 2: he ended up going to jail for a long time

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Speaker 2: when he came home. I was living in Europe at

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Speaker 2: the time. I flew home, took him to a nice dinner,

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Speaker 2: bottom some clothes, like tricked off on him real heavy,

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Speaker 2: and you know we were talking about like what we

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: could be again. Yeah, And I flew back to Europe

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01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: and when I landed, I turned my phone on and

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: he was like hugged up with a bitch in an outfit.

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: I bought him saying I'm back with my baby. I

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 2: got played.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah that's tough.

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that happened. So do you have like a

1541
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: story where like someone for nest, someone did something to

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: like take advantage or you know, just someone you liked

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: and it's extra simpy if you went.

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Speaker 4: Back after that.

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 3: Okay, extra simpy. I think I might qualify as an

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: extra simp. While I was dealing with this.

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Speaker 5: One guy, and I was in the military at the time,

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01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 5: and at this point we like lived together and everything. So, uh,

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01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 5: he lived in my apartment, so to start things off right,

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 5: a department even lived there would be as well. So

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Speaker 5: when it came down to it, like you know, I

1552
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 5: was in school, I was doing a lot of things

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 5: all at one time. You know, I was in school,

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 5: I was in the military, I had a job selling

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01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 5: cars on the side, and I was like building furniture

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01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 5: as well. Like you know, I'm hustling right, grind it

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01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 5: from my little family. You know, I'm trying to you know,

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 5: we're gonna make it. And I'm paying to wish it

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 5: for him to go to school because he you know,

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01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 5: his GPA was messed up, so nigga, he had to

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 5: do what he had to do to get back in school.

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 5: So I was the first semester we had to pay for.

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01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 5: So I'm paying for tuish it and it's being cheated.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. He was doing all the things I'm doing.

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01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 3: All the things I'm putting it. No, he was just

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 3: going to school.

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Speaker 5: It's like we should you to focus. We used to

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 5: focus on school and just get this GPA so we

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 5: can get some financial a next semester. Because I'm a planner,

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01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 5: I write it all out, you know. So I had

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 5: wrote out a plan. It was like, we're gonna get there.

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Speaker 5: And he definitely was cheating.

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Speaker 3: How did you find that in our apartment?

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01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: Ooh and yo.

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: Ship, Yeah, you let him stay there some more.

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, he in order to go, so say me

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: for a period of time and then I left.

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: You gave the an apartment.

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01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gone. So I left him, went and moved

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: damn to hold it city. Let him have that life.

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 3: But we're friends now though. Cool you okay, we got through.

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: Oh that was real simpy.

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01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know.

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 5: I'm like a hard for people, like if you can

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01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 5: help somebody out, like if you have the means to

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 5: do so, like show up in that way so I

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01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 5: can so like I should just go ahead and just

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01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 5: help them, held them out for a little bit longer,

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01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 5: and you know, so do.

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: You always are you in?

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Speaker 1: Are?

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: So this is the last question because I know we

1593
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: gotta go, but do you always end up like the

1594
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 2: alpha in all your relationships because sometimes you want to

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: be kept Not anymore.

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: I think I lived on that side of the corn

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 3: when I was like younger.

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 5: Now I'm just like, no, Like, if you can't show

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 5: up the way that I could show up for you,

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01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 5: or you can't invest in us the way that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like there's qualifiers. So it's like, if you.

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Speaker 5: Don't have it, we're not gonna even get there for

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 5: you to take advantage. Okay, Yes, I prefer that you

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01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 5: have your things together very much in order.

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm into that, all right, So tell everybody where they

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: can find you plug all your things.

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can find me for the most part.

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01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 5: If you want to look for me, just look for

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 5: me on Instagram at Underscore Philip Anthony m and that's it.

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01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 4: What about your nonprofit? Where can they find that as well?

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 5: You can find that on my Instagram page as well.

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 5: But it's called everybody needs a feel. Everybody there, direct

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Speaker 5: you to everything.

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01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: Else, everybody else, everybody.

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01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 4: Everybody definitely needs a feel, But not my field.

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Speaker 2: How you all feel?

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01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: Okay? Right, I am spoke doctor Field, get with him.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all. Have you enjoyed this episode?

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Speaker 4: Its hand, y'all.

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