1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: to fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and Nathan Segura. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Alright, let's you a live on a Tuesday edition of 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: the program. Merely Bo the Great z uh We're just 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: just firing dudes showing up to work. Firing them. Brought 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Bob Sala out in New York the news of the 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: day in the National Football League. 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: And I realized that that Bob Sala is not the 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator there. 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: The new interim head coach. 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: Is that he was the defensive cornat But Bob Sala 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: got the job because he was a defensive coach. That's correct, 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: and all of those things. Their defense is I think 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: top five in the league. The offense is. 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Near to the bottom. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: Good the whole time he's been there, that offense is 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: near the bottom. Yeah, this is what happens. My opinion 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: is not based on I have no scores. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people talking like they have scores 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: and around the cover of the NFL that have no scores. 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Notice us, Yes, about our organization first, which is embarrassing. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: Said it's not an agenda pushing and inaccurate at all. 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: And those art. 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: Scores, that's a fact what I'm saying right now. In fact, 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 3: there he is big l let's go right there. Yep, 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: it seems this is Aaron Rodgers said I'm not playing 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: for this guy anymore. 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: And what he said, Okay, if you watch tard Knocks 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: and again, we have no connections to the Jets organization, 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: we have and I think sometimes this happens in our 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: situation as well, and maybe there's a lesson to be 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: learned from that. 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: Who knows. 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: But when you watched Hard Knocks, and you saw those episodes, 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: and it was a pretty unvarnished and completely all encompassing 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: look at how the Jets went about their business. If 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: you drew the conclusion, any conclusion other than Aaron Rodgers 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: is running the ship with the Jets, then you were 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: watching something different than I was. Yes, so that's the 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: way that it looked. I get it from what he 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: Johnson's perspective too, like he's Deak who win and to 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: get a quarterback and finally Brady and belichicker out of 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: his hair and then he's got to deal with the 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: Bills in Allen and it's like, my god, what can 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: I do. I've tried drafting them. We drafted Darnell, we 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: drafted Zach Wilson. My people told me to draft these guys. 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: Who draft them, they don't hit. They're not hitting. None 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: of them are hitting. Wait a second, Aaron Rodgers is available, 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: and I've got Garrett Wilson, and I've got this defense, 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: and I've got these I got Breise Hall, I got 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: these weapons. All we needs a quarterback and we're set. 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: And so they get him and he shows up and 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: tears as Achilles, and then you wait a year. In 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: the meantime, you're stuck with what happened last year to them, 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: which is basically a treadmill year you did. 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: By the way their offense through five games a year ago, 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: it was the same as it is this year. 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: It's exactly the same. Yeah, the only reason you have 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett is because Aaron Rodgers wanted him. It's not 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: like there was a boy a job market for Nathaniel 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: Hackett to call ball plays now based on what happened 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: in Denver, which was maybe the most ill prepared team 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: we've ever seen in our lives. So yeah, I think 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: the conclusion you're drawing is the correct one. There's nothing else, 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: honestly that makes any sense. 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, and he's gonna go on McAfee tomorrow and probably 70 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: talk about it. 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: The question I have is where did it go wrong? 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Because when you brought up that Hard Knocks, one thing 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: that was pretty clear on that Hard Knocks as it 74 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: seemed like they got along pretty well, and then this year, no, 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: they did not get along well at all. 76 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: Do you think it is necessarily that the two of 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: them didn't get along, which could be true, but also 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: how much of it is we just have to make 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: a change. This ain't working. 80 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: But what's not working is on offense. 81 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: I understand why would make body he can't fire his buddy. 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: You're right, of course, but you can't fire his buddy, 83 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: So where else are you gonna go? I was actually 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: a surprise Hackett was it named the interim? And I'm 85 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: guessing that's just for appearance's sake, because he's the only 86 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: one on their staff who's been a head coach before. 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: They wouldn't have the respective, of course not but my 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: body anyway, respected apparently the defensive side. 89 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what salvage it is is Ulbrich is respected 90 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: on the defensive side. So that's how they'll be able 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: to live with it. By the way it went down today, 92 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: it seemed like it was like he showed up to work, 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: you're fired, get your stuff. Here's two security guys walking 94 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: you out. 95 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: You made me get to address moteam nothing. 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: He's been there for a while. 97 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: I think messed up three and a half years. 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: I think that was bush the way that that was. 99 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: That was handled in the negative sense. I don't like 100 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: that word said in the negative sense. In the negative sense, 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: I think it's stunning, though right stunning. 102 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: It feels very unfair, to be honest with you, but 103 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: that is the nature of this business. 104 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: At times. It can be cruel and unforgiving. 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: And I think, you know I was trying to I 106 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: started to make a point like it they did get 107 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: along on hard knocks. 108 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: Two years ago, Oh yeah, they did. So where did 109 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: it go wrong? I think? 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: And we know Aaron Rodgers will hold a grudge. He 111 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: is a relentless grudge holder. 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: Terrific at it. 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it went down Remember when Rogers had 114 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: that another like Ayahuasca trip to and that. 115 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: Was during Mini Caamp Mini camp. 116 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: And the way that Salah first said it was like 117 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: he wasn't didn't really have our blessing to do this, 118 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: but then it kind of went and then he changed 119 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: after that and what he said, and I think that 120 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: that was I think that was it. I think that's 121 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: when the grudge holding began. And then now you can 122 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: make you can make. 123 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: I mean that would connect that dog. 124 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: And when he went to hug him in that game 125 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: and he pushed him away, that was so uncomfortable. 126 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: And yes, I like adding the extra syllable to that word. 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: That was was that week I just pulled up that's 128 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: when they beat the Titans or beat the Patriots. So 129 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: they lose to the Niners in the opener. We actually 130 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: played pretty good. It got away from him because they 131 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: got off a script, but they you know, they were 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: in that game. They beat the Titans at home, and 133 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: they beat the Patriots. They lost to the Broncos ten 134 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: to nine at ten to night when Nick's had negative 135 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: yards passing in the third quarter of that game, and 136 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: then they lost to a very good Vikings team. The 137 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 2: other thing that's really strange about this is they play 138 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: on Monday Night football this week. After that they play 139 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Football. Yep, so then they're Patriots. Then 140 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: it's a short week for the Texans and then they 141 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: get their bye. So what was the what made it 142 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: necessary to make this move? Now? How do it become 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: so untenable? Is this like a flight back from London 144 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: and it's just like this, ain't it? 145 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: I think you have a lot of time to think 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: on those flights back from London. You know they lose 147 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: that game. He didn't He wasn't great in that game. 148 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: He throw three picks. 149 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, well he was quite honestly terrible, terrible. 150 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's torrible. Let's you be terrible. 151 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: You look like a shell of your former self, and 152 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: we're going to let you then decide the future of 153 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: the organization. 154 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: Rogers in the game in London was twenty nine of 155 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: fifty four, not good for two forty four, two touchdowns 156 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 2: and three picks. A quarterback rating of fifty four point nine. 157 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: That's a forty yards something attempt. 158 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: Four point five. 159 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 160 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so his I mean I just was curious, like 161 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: if he has played, he's still one thousand, ninety three 162 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: yards seven touchdowns, four picks. His rating. His quarterback rating 163 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: on the season is eighty one point six. He's got 164 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: one game over one hundred. That was against New England. 165 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: He was twenty seven to thirty five twenty one, two touchdowns, 166 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: no picks. He was ninety eight points seven against Tennessee 167 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: when he was eighteen to thirty for one to seventy 168 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: six is all two touchdowns, no picks. But yeah, he's 169 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: not the same. And in terms like I think you 170 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: made the great point yesterday, like his inability to escape 171 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: pocket and create more time, which is something he was 172 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: always just a maestro at all of that is gone. 173 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: That's gone. 174 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: It's gone. 175 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that part's gone. I did not know Kareem Hunt 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: had that in him, so did you. No, he seven 177 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: for one hundred and two. Yeah, then bens in twenty twenty. 178 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: No, I did not know that he had that in 179 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: him that we haven't seen him coming off of last season. No, 180 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: if you would have gone to some of the years 181 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: where it was Kareem and Nick and they were working, 182 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: you would have said, you know, twenty twenty twenty one, 183 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: sure you would have said, yeah, I definitely think so 184 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: what I found to be so interesting about it was 185 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: and I can I'm actually going to go more inside 186 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: the numbers here in a second. But I don't know 187 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: if Andy Reid, and I know he gets a lot 188 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: of credit, I don't know if he gets enough credit 189 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: for how easy these things look. Now one hundred and 190 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: two yards, folks, let's that's three point eight to carry. 191 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: Yep. 192 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: So he was in the three. He's been in the 193 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: threes for a while. 194 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: So that's more volume saying that's how you get there 195 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: than necessarily like breaking long run. His long run on 196 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: twenty seven carries, by the way, was eight yards. 197 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: No, but what he was was incredible on short yard 198 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: Well that's what he was here, so I knew he 199 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: had that in him. But he had a burst, he 200 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: had a bounce like he was. He looked good. 201 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 4: It kills. Long run on twenty seven carries was eight yards. 202 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: Dude, how many of our running backs would you have 203 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: to combine to get to one hundred? Ford's done it, 204 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: but like it's been many, you know, Like. 205 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: Well that was the point is it? Make it? It 206 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: is easy? 207 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: My guest right here is that he and I'm going 208 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: to get into the pff. I bet he didn't have 209 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: a ton after contact, he was getting like a couple 210 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: of yards down the field and they just kind of 211 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: falling forward. 212 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to pull that up. 213 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: I'm not sure to luck, I'm gonna pull it up. 214 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: But it's not just him, it's oh sith Ster goes 215 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: for one thirty. Like they are down, they are down 216 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: Rashid Rice, who's their biggest weapon. They're down Pacheco, who's 217 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: their bell coow back. Yeah, Mahomes is eighteenth in the 218 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: league in QBR and quarterback rating, Like, he's not rating well, 219 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: he's not playing great. And yet they're five and zero 220 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: and they've got Travis Kelce throwing full sprint laterals in 221 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: the middle of plays. They're having the time of their lives. 222 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: And they get these old throwback games from Kareem Hunting, 223 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster who nobody wanted either one of them, Nope, 224 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: And they're both the focal points of an offensive attack 225 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: on Monday night football to beat the Saints. Bless you, 226 00:09:59,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: thank you. 227 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he averaged about two yards before contact and two 228 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: yards after just under two yards before contact and then 229 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: two yards after contact, which was south. 230 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: I mean, he did did a good job. 231 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: Very that's he is a grinder like that he hasn't 232 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: gotten that opportunity, and I couldn't be happier for him. 233 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: I loved Kareem when he was here, I think absolutely 234 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: big loved him. How could you not. 235 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Get him in last year after the after Chubb got hurt, 236 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: he came in studio with us and we talked about 237 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: like would you have ever thought? Because I think we 238 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: made the statement last year when he had the in 239 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh game, and certainly remember, but like just this 240 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: notion of like I think he was like the second 241 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: most popular Brown behind Miles Oh yeah last year until 242 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: Flacco came in in December. Nuts, but like after the 243 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: Chub injury, like the biggest ovations were for Kareem other 244 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: than Miles yep, Like he was that guy like did 245 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: you ever would you ever for seen this? And he 246 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: was just so blessed to feel like he was back here. 247 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled for him. He was obviously mistakes a long 248 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: time ago, but the entire time he was here himself 249 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: at the very last level, was an incredible leader, always 250 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: had a smile on his face. Him and Nick's personality 251 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: was so polar opposite, and yet they worked together so 252 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: well Yeah, so cool that when Nick went down, he 253 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: came in to kind of fill that spot and go. 254 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: So when Kareem went down in twenty one, it was 255 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: such a big loss at this time because he had 256 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: been so good. 257 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: But here's a crazy thing. 258 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know how many carries you'd have to 259 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: go back into twenty two, but from the start of 260 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: the twenty three season, Kareem Hunt has run the ball 261 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy six times. He does not have 262 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: a single run of more than sixteen yards. 263 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he he goes forward. 264 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you need two, he'll get you three. Yeah, 265 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: you need one, he'll get you three. You need three, 266 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: he'll get you three. 267 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: You need Four'll probably ere it where he is. Yeah, 268 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: he goes but he is h I miss him. I 269 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: miss him greatly. Yeah, it was great see him getting 270 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: the end zone. You know, folks, last year his nine 271 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns were a rear high that. 272 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: He had with the Browns last year. Yeah, that's just 273 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: he is. 274 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: He is a tough, tough dude, and I think it 275 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: was so cool for him to get twenty seven carries. 276 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna look, when's the last time. It's got 277 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: to be a chub injury. Even then, I don't think 278 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: we would have got him. Twenty seven might have been 279 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: back to Kansas City days. 280 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: Honestly, all right, twenty the most he ever had with 281 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: the Browns was twenty carries for seventy two yards, and 282 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: that was in Week five against Indianapolis. In the twenty 283 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: twenty season with US Kansas City, he had twenty nine, 284 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 3: twenty nine, twenty seven, twenty five, twenty four, twenty two, 285 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty one, twenty and when he's been given 286 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: nineteen or more carries, he's got. That's eleven games with 287 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: nineteen or more carries in those eleven one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 288 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: just like Dante Foreman. Seven games of one hundred yards 289 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: or more. Yeah, and he's got nine with eighty five 290 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: or more. 291 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 292 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: Are are the Chiefs the best team in football? With 293 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: all these injuries? I mean they're undefeated, that's them in 294 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: Minnesota that are undefeated. 295 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: Are they scary? No? Do you think you're gonna beat them? Also? No? 296 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: So they're just clutch. And there was something that. 297 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: Was said in the in the Many cass which was 298 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: I thought spectacular by the way. It was Archie Manning 299 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: obviously not arch Manning. Oh it was, I was gonna say, 300 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: but it did say on the thing that I saw. 301 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: Maybe I misbet my eyes deceived me, but I thought 302 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: it's at arch Manning. 303 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: And I was that with the three of them because 304 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: I bailed a point. Were they because. 305 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: He oh yeah, Eli was like constantly on Peyton for 306 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: sucking up to his dad. Archie was loving it. It 307 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: was no, they were. They were good. Paul Rudd was good. 308 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: Belichick is Oh my god, it's so good. 309 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: I wish that there was a way that they could 310 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: all suck it up and be in the same room 311 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: together together with Belichick, because there's it was better this week. 312 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: I got there deaf way better this week on the delay. 313 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: Get there like end of the first core by the 314 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: time I was done with some stuff, and so it 315 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: was Beamsy's birthday yesterday, so by the time we were 316 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: done with the end of first and I was able 317 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: to watch all of the second with them, and I 318 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: thought it was a football masterclass. But I do wish 319 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: that they it was better because they weren't talking all 320 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: over each other. No, but there were still instances where 321 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: Eli would be really committed to a bit and they'd 322 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: put it up graphically, and Belichick's like, just can we 323 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: replay that play? 324 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 325 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: And I'm like just follow him because I would like 326 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: to hear what he had to say about the play. 327 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing when Manning basically called out 328 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: on the on the play where they tried. Him and 329 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: Belichick were so pissed off at the running back who 330 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: tried doing the fake or doing the the diverse mask. 331 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: Carson Steele lon, as you fumble it, but you now 332 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: I can't run that play again ever. And as soon 333 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: as Manning saw it before there was even a replay, 334 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: He's like they were gonna sneak Kelsey out on the 335 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: wheel route, like he knew the play before they even 336 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: did it. 337 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, there was there was some good stuff. 338 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: What was the thing I sent you one? Bless you? 339 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: I sent you one thing last night that I never 340 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: got it. Enjoyed that, he said, where was it? Manny 341 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: Kiss Belichick incredible addition, didn't say it, No you did not, 342 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: but there was something. Oh yeah. Eli was zinging Peyton 343 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: on the rules changes. 344 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: How they like back when you defensive basket like hit receivers, 345 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: but you got all the rules changed. Peate or whatever, 346 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: and Belichick had this like devil's grin on his face, 347 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: just love it. 348 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: Loving it, absolutely loving it. It was. It was amazing. 349 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: All right. One other thing from last night. I know 350 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: what you're say, do you, just because you saw it 351 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: in our text exchange, It's possible that Taylor Swift has 352 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: never watched football before right. 353 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: Now, before her relationship, Yes. 354 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Before her relationship with You think that it's possible that 355 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: a girl from Pennsylvania who's been traveling and recording music 356 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: she was sixteen, Yes, you think it's possible. Yeah, okay, okay, 357 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: if that's that's fine. 358 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: She might have been watching more wrestling that she grew 359 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: up next to Jeff Jarrett. 360 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: There you go, that's the like those two connected a lot, by. 361 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: The way, you know it was one and oh agains 362 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: Steff Jarrett. 363 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: Got two thumbs sitting to my left. She reacts to 364 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: every catch of his, and I've coached a lot of 365 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: little guy football the way like a five year old 366 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: mom reacts to her son catching it for the first time. 367 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh my god, that was like me caught it? 368 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: Can you believe it? Her first bucket? 369 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: She could score like that. She's acting as if she's 370 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: never seen him catch a pass, or that it's shocking 371 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: that he catches a nine yard pass. 372 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: By the way, I can't wait to see it. So 373 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: do you think it's the end zone? Because yeah, I 374 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: definitely think it's possible. 375 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: Okay, So you think that, like in her upbringing, she 376 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: just really never watched. You also think it's possible that 377 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: she had no idea who Travis Kelsey even was until 378 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: what is the story? Aaron Andrews introduced them. That's the story? Yeah, yeah, 379 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: I think. 380 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: Connect I get in the end zone for me be nice. 381 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: Do you get credit for both his receiving end the 382 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: lateral or what is how does that work statistically? 383 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: The lateral? 384 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: You get the catch and then hit the yards that 385 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: he got and then that and then it becomes then 386 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: it's a rushing the other guy. 387 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: I've never seen that. 388 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: It was very nice. 389 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: I've never seen that in a game of football at 390 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: any level. Somebody do because that is like the how 391 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: you throw the ball back to the official, you know, 392 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: give it this one. Yeah, it was great and I've 393 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: never seen it. I didn't know what the hell he 394 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: was doing when he was doing it. I tend to 395 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: agree with Manning when he tells the story that basically 396 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: he's been doing it, and then he goes to Andy 397 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: Reid and says and reads like, yeah, I trust you, 398 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: And basically everybody on the Chiefs is if if Kelsey 399 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: catches the ball and you're behind him, be ready, be 400 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: alert because he could spin it to you. Yep, because 401 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: they were prepared. I don't know that that was the 402 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Did you think that was the play to do that? 403 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: You think they called that play to do it? Do 404 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: you think that was an ad lib? 405 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: Ah, that's a better question. 406 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: I think it probably was an add liable that we're 407 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: seeing a lot more of teams doing that on purpose. 408 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: Because the one that he did, I want to say 409 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 3: it was to Cadarius Tony last year. That was an 410 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: ad lib and it ended up being a touchdown. So 411 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: I think he's just looking around being. 412 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: Like, hey, hey, this guy's open. 413 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 4: Yep, let me give it to you. 414 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: I was such a cool play, such a cool play. 415 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: I was so bummed when he didn't get the touchdown 416 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: on the shovel because as soon as he went in 417 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: that motion, I said, oh God, here comes the shovel. 418 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: But I guess if I was sitting at home and 419 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: I knew that. Then turns out the Saints did as well, 420 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: and they they got it. 421 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like in the boothline on Sunday. 422 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: There was early in the game there was a two 423 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: play sequence where I basically said exactly what was going 424 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: to happen before it happened, and then I was like, well, 425 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: I guess if I know that, maybe maybe they had 426 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: their spies. 427 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: And they didn't. It turns out they didn't know it. 428 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out as it were that they did. 429 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: What do you make of the Saints unis? I liked 430 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: them black hats look clean too. They had like the 431 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: old school striping. 432 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: I liked that. 433 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: I do think that that one would look good with 434 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: a gold helmet or a black helmet either way either. 435 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: Derek Carr's first interceptions that you weren't on the Manning cast. 436 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: When he threw that interception, He's just trying to throw 437 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: it away but just didn't throw it far enough and 438 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: it ended up getting picked. 439 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: And yeah, Pate was just can't have it. 440 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: Oh, He's like, that happened to me once and pay 441 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: he always works in they diagram some blitz that the 442 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Chiefs had done that worked really well. And then he's like, 443 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: and I talked to Spags and he's like, when I 444 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: saw it, I thought it was a bust. I thought 445 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: somebody came who wasn't supposed to come. And I talked Peags, 446 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: He's like, it's right. 447 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: He says. 448 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: He's like, I hate when the defense busts because that's 449 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: when I throw my interceptions. Somebody's where they're not not 450 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: supposed to be. He's like, all my interceptions were defense busts. 451 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: He is always getting that in the essentially he always 452 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: did the right thing. Yeah, it was actually the defense 453 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: screwing up that led to the defense having success. 454 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're not, but you're not supposed to be there. 455 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: Last night was why was an example of why I 456 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: love the Manning cast. That's a game I would not 457 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: have much interest. It's fine, Like, but I'm footballed out. 458 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 2: It's fine. It wasn't anything I need to see. But 459 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: as soon as you are also calling one game on 460 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: Sunday and you're on a plane, like you're not watching 461 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: twelve hours of football on Saturday, and then all of 462 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: the Sunday and like I'm football though, and so what 463 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: I what I do think needs my house would indicate 464 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: that maybe you do. Yeah, twelve hours. Yeah, I mean, 465 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: how many teams in the top eleven loss this week? 466 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 2: Did you have a count? I was just asking, I 467 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: was curious. 468 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 4: It felt like six pretty close? 469 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Five? 470 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: Five? What? 471 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: That's a manning cast game for me though, that was 472 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: great because I'm Obama. 473 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: Losing to Vandy was the big shocker for me, though. 474 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: That was your big shocker you and everybody else, because 475 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: Mandy has actually never done that before, never one of one. 476 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 477 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: What did you make of how far the tide fell 478 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: in the polls? 479 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 4: Not far enough? Not far enough. 480 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 2: Where would you like to have seen him out all 481 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: the way? Yeah? One day out. I do you think 482 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: of alternate world where you are the commissioner of college football? 483 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: It would be just abasing. 484 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: Right now. 485 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: You could just go like my dad and yours and 486 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: just answer emphatically to everything and just see what happens. 487 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun. It'd be fun. 488 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: I'd like that too, Buck Eyes one, Texas two, Oregon three. 489 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: Big ten, Big ten powerhouse, Oregon three. Yeah, I think 490 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: that makes sense. 491 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: You're in a good spot. And then I'd actually say four. 492 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: I'd actually go Georgia. 493 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: We got this later in the Shell Boys, oh, we 494 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: don't want to. Oh, oh, i'd actually go Georgia. 495 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 5: Man. 496 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: I know they lost the Bama, but you have me 497 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: out for a week, you're out of top twenty five. 498 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: And then you can come back in. I don't mind 499 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: that rule. 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He's on my. 514 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: Team, he's on your team. 515 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: There you go. 516 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: I agree, like something get done. 517 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: Fortunately I had a hunch about because of my Again, 518 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 3: we'll go back to my sense of college football knowledge. 519 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: I thought the steal of the draft. 520 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can go back to the draft they 521 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: broadcast and verify this was Brian Thomas, and so I 522 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: fortunately have him in all of it. So even though 523 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: I'm not playing Davante, I'm playing Brian Thomas, who produced 524 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: one of the great still photos of our time. 525 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't see it. 526 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: That may have been by Was that by our boy Gibbe? 527 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: Was that a Chris Kim photo that's making the rounds. 528 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Is down there? I saw him and Stones. 529 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: It's the one where he's running to the end zone 530 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: and the guy from the Colts is basically like full Superman, 531 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: one hundred percent parallel to the ground, fully outstretched trying 532 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: to get him, and he's just it's a great picture. 533 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't seen it. I will check that out. 534 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: We will also check out one thought from every NFL game, 535 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 2: Greg Newsom at the podium. Lots to get to are 536 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: often running. 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Beam Distilling Company, Claremont, Kentucky. 546 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: Drink Smart. 547 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 4: Hello, givee hi, good afternoon. Good to see you, buddy, 548 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 4: Good to see you guys. 549 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 5: What a day? 550 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: What a day out there? Kids. 551 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: I have missed all a fall, and I'm fairly couch 552 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: of it, to be fair. 553 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: It was basically the end of last weekend and this week. 554 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: But like Indian summer, yep, oh that you missed. Yeah, 555 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 6: I have missed all of it. And we'll get back 556 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 6: from Philly and it'll be in the fifties and forties 557 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: and raining for the whole rest of the month while 558 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: we're home. I'm sure that's how this will go. 559 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: Are we surprised that there's not a little bit more 560 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: of the foliage that has turned? It's still pretty green 561 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: for October eighth? 562 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: No, actually, dude, it's still it's every shift. Who June 563 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: is no longer June August is no longer. August is 564 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: now June, September is July, October is August. 565 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: You're not gonna get any of this until November. 566 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: I think you just do one month move instead of two? 567 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: Can I do? 568 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: How about all do August? 569 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: Can I meet you in the middle go it's a 570 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 4: month and a half, Okay, thank you. 571 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: I don't mind that. 572 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 6: I I mean, I've got leaves coming down just because 573 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 6: it's so dry, right. 574 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 4: They're not turning colors. They're literally just dying. I haven't 575 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: seen a nice red Where is uh? 576 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: When is peak foliage? It's got to be soon. 577 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: I mean, I know in the East coast it is. 578 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. 579 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: It's typically like right now over the next week, because 580 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: this is when I used to have fall break in 581 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: uh in college and low those many years, go up 582 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: to with Danny. 583 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 4: We'd go up, but we'd go up to Maine, and 584 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: it was at that time gorgeous. 585 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's gorgeous. 586 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 4: It wasn't Kenny Bunkport. It was a small town called Friendship. 587 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 6: Friendship, man been there been there some good water, there's 588 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: a good couple of good breweries. 589 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 4: There's a nice resort and set. 590 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: There you go, isn't that where That's where Tony Soprano 591 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: took Meadow to Bowden to go look at colleges was 592 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: in Maine. That's where he found the hit man that 593 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: visit Universe. Yeah, I'm back. I was excited by it, 594 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: by that Sopranos doc. So we watched that. 595 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 4: I got a lot unbelievable. 596 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. And then I started watching mcmahondoc. It's so good, 597 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: especially for me because I don't know all of this stuff, 598 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: Like you know it, I didn't know it. It's so 599 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: there's so many things to it that I just I 600 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: didn't know, and it's it's really good, really very very good. 601 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: So there you go. 602 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 6: One thought from week five. Let's do it all right, Yeah, 603 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 6: if you want to give one thought from the game 604 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 6: that got Robert Solid fired. Vikings twenty three Jets seventeen. 605 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 6: Vikings remain unbeaten five and zero. The Jets fall to 606 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: two and three. Somehow this counts as like road game 607 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: home game, and I don't I don't know if it should. 608 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 6: It's like it's a neutral site game. 609 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: Here's this road or home too. 610 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: I was home for the Vikings. 611 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh so they gave up. 612 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: A home Yes they did. Okay, it's very interesting, bo Bishop. 613 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 4: One thought from you. 614 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: I think the team that gives up the home game 615 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: should only be that should only have because they operate 616 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: every other year, like NFC teams this year should be 617 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: the home teams because. 618 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: They get nine to nine games anyway. 619 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: So like I think, if there's a situation where a 620 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: team goes len and the home team has always got 621 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: to be a team that has nine home. 622 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Games, that seems to be the right thing to do. 623 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: I agree with you on for get. 624 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 4: Me running college are of all sports. 625 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: I think I'll do the Viking side of this. I 626 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: think the fact that they were able to win this 627 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: game in large part because of their defense, because of 628 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: the pressure they put on Aaron Rodgers. This is the 629 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: first time they've won when Donald hasn't been really good. 630 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: He was kind of Jets Donald in this one wasn't great, 631 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: made enough plays but not great, But it was really 632 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: their defense. And then they are now in a position 633 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: where they're just used to winning and we're used to winning. 634 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: You make the plays when you need to. They're legitimately good. 635 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: They are legitimately good. You look at this one two things. 636 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Number one, Nick Mullins comes in for one play when 637 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Donald got banged up and throws a bomb to the 638 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: running back on a go route for twenty four yards 639 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: and then leave the game enough not to return. I 640 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: thought that was an incredible cameo by Nick Mallins. Aaron 641 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: Jones obviously ended up going out heard in this one, 642 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: but what jumped out to me is Rogers just looks. 643 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: He doesn't look great. And the thing that is just 644 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: the Jets inability to run the football, so they become 645 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: one dimensional and it's not a great dimension. Twenty two 646 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: targets for Garrett Wilson that yielded one hundred and one yards. 647 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: That's not even five yards of target. That's insane. And 648 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: he had some big plays to be made there that 649 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: he that he being Rogers missed. 650 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: Yes, I think the fascinating thing the Vikings get a 651 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 6: bye week coming out of one. 652 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: Jets, don't they get the Raiders. They get the bills 653 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: Monday night. 654 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: They got bills on Monday Night, and then they the 655 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: next weeks. 656 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: The Steelers play the Raiders. 657 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: They go, they go bills and then they got Sunday 658 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: night football. Yeh yeh yeh yeah, yeah, they're going Prime 659 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: time back to back. 660 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: So they're giving them the Monday to give them a day, 661 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: a dextra day. That's not much. 662 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: They're coming back from London. 663 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 6: I remember when you played London, you always had the 664 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 6: bye week the following. 665 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: Here's the thing for them though, them flying to London 666 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: is US flying to La sure, so it's really not 667 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: that crazy for them. 668 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: No valid ballid It's just I do agree with you though. 669 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: The timing of the firing of Sala is wild to 670 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: me because to go into Monday night football and then 671 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: Sunday Night football back to back is a lot. 672 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, it's a lot. Up next one hoot graphic 673 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: it's great. One thought, that's great. 674 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 6: The Bears have won two in a row. Bears now 675 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 6: three and two on your By the way, every rookie 676 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 6: quarterback that played Sunday one easier than ever Bears thirty 677 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: six Panthers ten zegirl one thought. 678 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 4: Caleb Caleb Caleb looking good, looking, tough, three. 679 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Hundred and four yards, two touchdowns, twenty of twenty nine, 680 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: ten and a half in attempt, got it to DJ Moore, 681 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: got it the cole Comet, got it to Roma do 682 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: They were looking great if I was them, honestly team 683 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: that's looking for a receiver, I'd ship. If I were 684 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: the Bears, ship Keenan Allen out let a Dunes a play. 685 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: We don't we don't need. 686 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: Him and he hasn't done much for them. But yeah, 687 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: I thought this was Caleb Williams. It's starting to come 688 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: together and you see his immense, immense talent. 689 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 6: Daniels are Caleb. If you had to pick one today. 690 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: Either way, No, I don't have a pick. 691 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: I'll take Daniels because what he can do with his legs. 692 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: I'll stick. I'll stick with Caleb just and trust the 693 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: long term of it all. But I think I do 694 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: think that Daniels is getting They are really taking care 695 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: of him offensively with Cliff and I don't know that 696 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: the Bears have that type of offensive acumen that did 697 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: Cliff As, But I believe we had this. There were 698 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: signs in the Colts loss for the Bears that it 699 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: was headed in the right direction. They finally unlocked DJ Moore. 700 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: Now they've really unlocked Dj Moore, so that this Bears 701 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: seems going to be a problem for a lot of 702 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: teams going forward. I cannot imagine the bitter pill for 703 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: Panthers fans to look over and say, all of that 704 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: could have just been ours. We could have just had 705 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: all of that instead of what we did. It's got 706 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: to be just brutal on their end of things. 707 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 6: Yes, up next from the AFC North, the Ravens have 708 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 6: won three in a row. After starting the year oh 709 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 6: and two, Ravens now three and two on the year. 710 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 6: They take down the Bengals in Northern Kentucky forty one 711 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 6: thirty eight overtime Bengals now oh win three in conference play. 712 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: Pretty crazy. 713 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: Bo bish of one thought you could make an argument 714 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: that Joe Joe Burrows off to the best start of 715 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: his career at quarterback. He has been lights out every 716 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: game since the opener, three hundred yards routinely. He was 717 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: thirty of thirty nine for five touchdowns and three to 718 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 2: ninety in this one. They got Jamar Chase going, they 719 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: got t Higgins going. Brown is the better back. They 720 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: realize that, like they all, everything offensively is clicking and 721 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: they still lose. They've lost on field goals twice at 722 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: the end of games. They have a real problem defensively 723 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: and that they do not create pressure without the blitz. 724 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: They can't really. Hendrickson's the only one who creates any 725 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: sort of pressure you saw with Hubbard when one. So 726 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: they've got big problems defensively. Now dex Hills out for 727 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: a while, they have real finite problems on defense. They 728 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: are just going to bank on that Joe can outscore 729 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: people going forward, and that's probably a decently safe Betz girl. 730 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: So just a buttress. The great point of my incredible 731 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: colleague gear. Twelve touchdowns, two picks, three three hundred yard 732 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: games or two three hundred yard games so far through 733 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: five last year, Burrow through five games had five touchdowns 734 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: and three picks, one three hundred yard game. Back in 735 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, through five games he had three six 736 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: eight nine touchdowns and five picks through five games with 737 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: no three hundred yard or one three hundred yard game. 738 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, one three hundred yard game. Again 739 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: he was he was good here four seven, nine eleven 740 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: touchdowns but six picks through the first five and then 741 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 3: in his rookie season it was six and two with 742 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: three three hundred yard games. So yes, the best start 743 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: that he's been off to getting t Higgins back, they 744 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: look they definitely look like they're gelling. But the one 745 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: takeaway from this is that Lamar Jackson's singular greatness and 746 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: playmate in you know, this was one where they had 747 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: to answer the call in a comeback fashion and he 748 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: did it. And what he's become so dangerous in these 749 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: hurry up situations. It's you have to spy him, which 750 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: makes it easier for them to throw, and if you don't, 751 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: he runs, and so he becomes such a dual threat. 752 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: They're going hurry up. Everybody else is getting tired. He 753 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: never seems to get tired. He's an incredible condition. And 754 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: he goes out there the final one and I know 755 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: it's only one thought, but the final is a half 756 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: a thought. That woman who got in his face at 757 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: that restaurant and was talking a bunch of smack to him, 758 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: he said, at the time, we're going to beat the 759 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: Bengals and it's on you. 760 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: He was right, he was. Have you seen that clip. 761 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 4: He's like in a restaurant in Cincinnati. 762 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this lady comes up and is definitely all 763 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: up into space and is like, they're gonna whoop you? 764 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: And he's like, who's gonna beat us? And then she 765 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: like who day? 766 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 3: Who day bangles, Oh god son, Yeah, and then he's like, well, 767 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: well we're gonna beat him, and it's gonna be your fault. 768 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: Burrow said he had to play perfect to beat the 769 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. He damn near did and they still didn't. 770 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: That's a big sense of frustration down there. 771 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 6: Up next, I was watching the halftime show on ESPN 772 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 6: last night with Chris Berman's fastest two nuts. 773 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 774 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 6: I love watching that. He gets to this game and 775 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 6: he goes Dolphins, but Patriots first fifteen wins. Dolphins won 776 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 6: fifteen to ten. Moving on Dolphins, pretty good fifteen Patriots ten. 777 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: Uhs. The girl one thought, make it a quick one. 778 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 4: This game sucked. I go back. 779 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: That rule needs to be fixed that changes the outcome 780 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: in this game. I'm happy for the Dolphins and stupuntley 781 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 3: that they won, but they need to change that rule 782 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: where if you are toes in heels up in the 783 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: back of the end zone, that's a touchdown. 784 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: That was the demonstration. Yes, yes, that was the demonstration. Issually, 785 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 4: you're welcome. There was that. 786 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: The other is from a fantasy football perspective, is Drod 787 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 3: Meyo trying to become like Mike Shanahan where you just 788 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: can't trust anything, he says. He said they were benching 789 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Rimondre and I did, and so did I four Gibson. 790 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: Gibson took the first carry of the game, and then 791 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: it felt like every redre ended up in the game. 792 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 3: Seventeen touches, I'm sorry, sixteen touches, ninety two total yards 793 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: and a touchdown. Antonio Gibson ended up with seven touches 794 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 3: for fifty six yards, which he did a good job 795 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: on seven touches. 796 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 4: But hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 797 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 6: All honesty, in all honesty, come on, Bishop, do you 798 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 6: have a thought on all right? I think the interesting one. 799 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 6: Miami has been outscored one thirteen to sixty and New 800 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 6: England's been out scored one oh two to sixty two. 801 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 6: Just gross, uh, next little shootout? I thought, honestly, I 802 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 6: thought Yellowstones had won this. And then I sent a 803 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 6: text to Yellowstone. I was like congrats, he goes, no, man, 804 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 6: we blew it. I was like, oh I didn't. I 805 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: didn't even see it. I'm on the bus. Yeah, Jags 806 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 6: get their first win of the year. They down the 807 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 6: Colts thirty seven to thirty four. 808 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: Bo Bishop, I don't understand how the Jaguars have their record. No, 809 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: they have a lot of talent, and it doesn't make 810 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: sense that they're now tank. Buzzby's in there, Bigsby and 811 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: he's he's running like a man possessed. No relationshimas he's great, 812 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: by the way, no relation there. Lawrence looks good. I 813 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: don't understand why their record is what their record is. 814 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why this was so hard for them. 815 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: Flacco was unbelievable for the Colts. Thirty three or forty four, 816 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: three fifty nine, three touchdowns, no picks. 817 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: So girl flacoh great. Trevor Lawrence looked great in this one. 818 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: Bigsby I think might become their primary runner. 819 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, they can use Etsy in the other way, so 820 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: like that's fine, Like they can throw it to him 821 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: totally change of pace and throw it to him. It's fine. 822 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: By the way, if you like big plays, this game 823 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: had him sixty five yard touchdown run by Bigsby, eighty 824 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 3: five yard touchdown catch by Thomas, sixty one yard pass 825 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 3: to Kirk, sixty five yard touchdown pass to Alec Pierce 826 00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 3: from Flacco. 827 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: And you want big plays, baby, you got them all right. 828 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 4: Next fun game, fun, fun, fun fun, Yeah that between 829 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 4: that one and Ravens Bengals, and then we're like, can 830 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 4: we get to twenty points? No, just kidding, Yeah yeah 831 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: not yet. Uh yeah. 832 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 6: Houston hands the Bills another loss. Texans twenty three Bills twenty. 833 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 6: Houston's actually been out scored on the year. One hammered in. 834 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: They got hammered by the Vikings. 835 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, Buffalo falls to three and two. Houston now two 836 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 6: in a row. They're a four and one and their 837 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 6: lead is two games in the AFC South cigirl one. 838 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: Thought coaching Malfeasans throw the ball. They took what ten 839 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 3: seconds off the clock gives Houston enough time for fair 840 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: Baron to make the fifty nine yard er to win 841 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: the game. Outrageous. Uh do you guys have any idea 842 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: what Josh Allen's numbers were in this game? 843 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, nine for thirty throwing the football, nine 844 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 4: thirty for thirty throwing the football. 845 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 6: And they put him back, Well, it looks like is 846 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 6: he going to be in concussion protocol this week? 847 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: How could he not be? They put him back in. 848 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: They need they need to get a receiver. They're a 849 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 3: team that should be trying to get DeVante Adams. 850 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: I think we said this four months ago. Oh my goodness. 851 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nico Collins right now, you can make an argument 852 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 2: is the offensive player of the year y National Football 853 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: leagu Yes, he is weak to week, not day to day. 854 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: Week to week. They said that, yeah, and before that injury. 855 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: That makes me really sad. 856 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: They fell off a cliff offensively. Once he went down, 857 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: they don't have. He gives him something they don't have 858 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 2: anywhere else. So that is something to watch big time. 859 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: They are four in one, but that could be a 860 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 2: catastrophic injury for them week to week on Nico Collins 861 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: not great. Talk about somebod who maybe need to trade 862 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: for a receiver. Maybe they do. Their best players are 863 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 2: in rookie deals like I don't know, but that's that 864 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: could be a major loss for them. 865 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 4: Week to week. When did you see this? I thought 866 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 4: I read day. 867 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 2: To day week? 868 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 4: Look, oh man, sorry, Assuming Snakes draft a tremendous start 869 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: in the AFEL there it is. 870 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 6: Oopsis uh to the four o'clock games. Bo Nicks has 871 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 6: won three in a row. Kids, he doesn't like his 872 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 6: coach Calin plays, He's going to do it himself. Broncos 873 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 6: beat the Raiders thirty four to eighteen. Broncos go to. 874 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 4: Three and two, the Raidus fall to two and three 875 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: Bho Bisios. 876 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: Broncos defense is awesome Sirtan with one hundred yard pick 877 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 2: six in this one. But the big story here is 878 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: how gorgeous that uniform is and how beautiful it is 879 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: juxtaposed to the rest of the league, which I know 880 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: how you don't feel you feel about those uniforms, But 881 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: the reason it works is because there were all these 882 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: independent uniform suppliers back in the eighties and nineties, and 883 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: so the shades of orange could be different. There were 884 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: subtle differences in the shades of orange. There were subtle 885 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: differences in the blues. So like that blue on that 886 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: helmet that they wore and that orange that they wore, 887 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: nobody else in the league looks like that. So when 888 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: you see it pop up, whether it's on red zone 889 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: or you flip and you land there's a score highlight, 890 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: you're like, wow, that's a color explosion. Same things happened 891 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 2: with Seattle when they were Theirs. The cream Sickles, the Falcons, 892 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: red hats, all of them were just not used to 893 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 2: seeing that huge color burst. They are I don't understand, 894 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 2: Like you have the ability to wear those all the time, 895 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: how do you. 896 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: Not Seahawks, Falcons, Dolphins, go back, change this logo to 897 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 3: that logo, change it all. These are the uniforms you 898 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: wear every single week. The white versions are beautiful too, 899 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 3: because I have the blue number. It's they looked fantastic. 900 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: That was I was funny. That's what was gonna be. 901 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 3: My one thing from this game was that the other 902 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: would be Boggers were eating. They were on national television. 903 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: It happened. I don't understand how you do that? How 904 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 2: do you do it to begin with? But like like 905 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: it's studying. There was a little kid in the pickup 906 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: line last week when I was picking up one of 907 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: the boys. That's when he was seeing it something to dig. 908 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 2: It's another thing to take the next step to eat, 909 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 2: Like where does that happen? Like do you want a 910 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 2: taste of it? 911 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 4: I don't say nobody. 912 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: Hell are we doing? For gods? 913 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 3: What's crazy to me is not only that it happened, 914 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: but that like at that point he had been benched 915 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: and that he's on somehow there's a camera on him 916 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 3: to capture the moment. 917 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I don't know what. 918 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: Makes someone why do you come back? Is that the 919 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 4: end of his career? 920 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 6: I think so I am torn by the unis. They're beautiful, 921 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 6: reminds me of a horse face and those its all 922 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 6: got to move on. 923 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: They look great though they do look great. 924 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 6: No, we don't. We'd never forget. We think about punching 925 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 6: him in the face. 926 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 4: I remember when the gibbe or Aaron Rodgers. For sure, 927 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 4: you're damn right. Somehow Pittsburgh, well, Pittsburgh. 928 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh gets a bye because. 929 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 4: By the way, great, great, not past Sunday, Okay, rank 930 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 4: the two Washington ahead, Okay. With a brisk it there 931 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 4: was a brisket. It was a pulled pork. I think, No, 932 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 4: it was a brisket. I asked them. They said pork, 933 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 4: but they were not. It wasn't a convincing answer, so 934 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 4: maybe it was a brisk guy. But I did ask, 935 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 4: and that summarizes all lot I wanted to ask. 936 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 3: And it was a pork right on top of it too. 937 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 3: It was delicious and good all right. So Pitsford people 938 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 3: at least still understands the difference between out of a 939 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: bag into a metal tray with a vat of the 940 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 3: melky cheese and that's it. That's what they call not 941 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 3: just specially had multiple sauces. This had the pulled pork 942 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: and fresh hollo penios. 943 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 6: Now we're living now this was that's yeah yeah next 944 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 6: uh the payedros go to two and three on the year. 945 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 4: What happened Cardinals twenty four? Nina's twenty three? 946 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 2: Where is so? 947 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 3: We got to sit on the We had the joy 948 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: of sitting on the runway for about three hours before 949 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: we took off the comeback. 950 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 2: It's nice private your own chair, and. 951 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 3: In that in that time I was able to watch 952 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 3: me too, to watch the entire second half. 953 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 4: I had the whole exit row. 954 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 6: Nothing I didn't. 955 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 4: I have never recled. 956 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 6: I never reclined my seat, reclined my seat on that flight. 957 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: He was an exit row. He just loved it. 958 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 4: I sat with him on the way down. He did 959 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 4: it was not on the way home. The disrespect is outrageous, outrageous, 960 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 4: Like my tenure company, I've been here longer than you. 961 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 4: That's not true. It is true as a full time 962 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 4: sort of romantics a decade. Bro. 963 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you get for that? Don't crash out? 964 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 4: Talk? 965 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: I got I got for years. I got a silver helmet. 966 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: Ye a big that says ten on it. 967 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 4: Chipper with my Actually, I don't think I got it? 968 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 2: What's Pedro? Who's he blaming? 969 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 4: Pedro is not by the way I asked, I said, oh, 970 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 4: so you could still got it? Huh. 971 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 972 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: They's mad at Debo Deep only one catch e elevenyards. 973 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 3: He doesn't understand it, he is, He's baffled. The Niners 974 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 3: had a ninety some The Niners didn't score in the 975 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 3: second half. It was twenty three to ten in the 976 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 3: third quarter. 977 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 4: Tys. 978 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: This year they've been up two scores in the fourth. 979 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: Kyle had never lost a game as the head coach 980 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 3: of the Niners when he was up two scores going 981 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter, as he did in this game. Stupefying. 982 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 3: I will say though, two things. Niners are still very talented. 983 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to play them, but you gotta. You can't 984 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 3: lose these silly games that they lost. And they should 985 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 3: be four and one at worst. 986 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 987 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's ability to run fast without picking his legs 988 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 3: up is wild. The fact that he gets into a 989 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 3: hole at the forty three and goes p size out yeah, 990 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: and then scoots because that's what he does to the 991 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 3: end zone crazy. I So I got to watch the hole, 992 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 3: as I said, basically the second half the first. I 993 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 3: saw highlights of the first as I'm prettyure Kyler run happened 994 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: in the first half. So Tom Brady, one of his 995 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 3: styles as an announcer is just to make like strange 996 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 3: noises during big plays. 997 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 4: Have you noticed that? 998 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 2: No, because I haven't listened to him since. 999 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 3: You got to go back and watch the Kyler Running's 1000 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: just like and they did it on a long one 1001 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 3: to Ayuk, it was. 1002 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 2: Alright, it's watch Yeah, I think it's a bit of 1003 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: a struggle, like in the middle of the cause he's 1004 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: like he's making noise, yeah, randomly. 1005 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 4: Like I did that once and it was for a 1006 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 4: walk off fifty eight years. 1007 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: Field well. 1008 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: Somewhere, but family listening, that was too much of a 1009 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 4: peak behind the curtainrun. 1010 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: You said it, brother, she's Kyler's frist. Kyler's not. He's 1011 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 2: not Lamar. I'm not project. I'm not saying he is. 1012 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: But on a one off he's becoming that difficult to 1013 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 2: prepare for because of how unorthodox he plays juxtaposed to 1014 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: everybody else that you play. So he went seven for 1015 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 2: eighty three on the ground in this game, outed a touchdown. 1016 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: He's been awesome. He's got nine ers and seventy two yards, 1017 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: seven touchdowns, two picks, seven yards in attempt, sixty eight 1018 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: percent completions. Like they're frisky. We knew they'd be frisky. 1019 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 2: And the pets Yeah, Drew Petsky. He's gotten dialed up 1020 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: andrew up. Next. 1021 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 6: Packers twenty four, Rams nineteen. Nice little back and forth, 1022 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 6: but Lafleur gets the best of his mentor both. 1023 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: You know, some teams you look at them and you say, well, 1024 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 2: they deserve their record. They're playing abysmally, and what you get, 1025 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: you reap what you saw. Certainly, I do not think 1026 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: that is necessarily the case with the Rams. They have 1027 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: been for a team that is one in four. They 1028 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 2: really could have beat the Lions and the opener, They 1029 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 2: could have beat the Bears last week, and they could 1030 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: have beat the Packers and this one. They are just 1031 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 2: so so limited by their injuries. They have no cup, 1032 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 2: no Nakua, no offensive line, none of it. Yet Stafford 1033 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 2: stands in there and makes plays and keeps fighting and 1034 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: they somehow have a chance. And they had a chance 1035 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 2: in this one. He made a ridiculous pass. I didn't 1036 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 2: even understand the arm angle. It fell in complete on 1037 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 2: their last shot on fourth down. But like he gives 1038 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: them a fighting chance every single week. 1039 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,479 Speaker 4: He certainly does. 1040 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 3: The one thing to me is, I know people are 1041 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 3: have been lamenting the tight end position in fantasy football 1042 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: this year. Tucker Craft is I think real four for 1043 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 3: eighty eight, two touchdowns. He's had a couple a good game, 1044 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 3: a couple good games in a row with Jordan Love there. 1045 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 3: Jayden Reid's obviously the superstar there, but Tucker Craft, all 1046 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 3: of a sudden. 1047 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 4: He's been pretty pretty pretty. 1048 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 3: Solid his last few weeks five for eighty eight and 1049 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 3: two nine for fifty three in a touchdown that's all 1050 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 3: with Love. 1051 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 4: So he's I don't. 1052 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: Think he'll be available anymore, but if heez, if you 1053 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 3: need a tight end, that's the. 1054 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 2: Guy up next. 1055 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 4: The g Men are two to three. Fun game. 1056 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 6: They knock off Seattle twenty nine to twenty. 1057 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 4: Uh's a girl. 1058 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 3: There is nothing quite like a walk off, blocked kick 1059 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: touchdown to seal a win. And they did to the 1060 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: Seahawks what Miles did to the Indianapolis Colts last year. 1061 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 3: And did you see who was the one that blocked 1062 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 3: the kick? I did, I didn't do, sounos, Was it 1063 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 3: really jo jumped over? 1064 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 4: It was awesome. 1065 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: Blocked the kick, form shivered the kicker and take him 1066 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: out of it. And the ball the block kick bounced 1067 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 3: literally right to a guy who was like it was 1068 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 3: a bounce pass. Yeah, to a guy streaking in and 1069 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 3: he was he was able to go ahead and get 1070 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 3: in the end zone. 1071 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 4: But that was awesome. 1072 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: And how about for the is Danny Dimes what's renaissance? 1073 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 3: Two fifty seven, two touchdowns, no picks, runs for thirty 1074 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 3: eight yards and does this without neighbors. Darius Slayton just 1075 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 3: steps in eight for a buck twenty two and a touchdown. 1076 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 3: Crazy one other thing real quickly, And I'm sorry for 1077 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 3: monopolizing Exen Smith and Jig but had one of the 1078 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 3: great plays I've ever seen in football. And it didn't 1079 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: involve him catching the ball at all. Gino Smith scrambling 1080 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 3: out to the right. He's got two guys with him 1081 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 3: and makes it look like with a safety at the top, 1082 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 3: makes it look like the balls in the air and 1083 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 3: he's tracking and he goes like he's gonna catch it, 1084 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 3: and they just keep running with him, and Gino Smith's 1085 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 3: like running right behind him, like laughing. 1086 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 2: It's next level to do that, to have that in 1087 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: your head. That's heartline, Like that's a lot of that 1088 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: early second season, do that that early to fake it 1089 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: because they chase him like the ball's coming and Gino 1090 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 2: is running is running right up like It's the opposite 1091 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: of George Pickens in terms of what happens on a 1092 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: play by play basis, it's the opposite of that. It's 1093 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 2: possible Seattle is not good. Let's just take that as 1094 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 2: a possibility. They're wins. They beat the Broncos, they won 1095 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: at New England, and they beat the Dolphins without Tua. 1096 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 2: They were beaten by the Lions and beaten. It was, 1097 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: but they were beat by the Lions by two scorers. 1098 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: They were beaten by the Giants at home. It's possible 1099 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 2: that that maybe a little bit of fools gold with them. 1100 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 3: Definitely, defensively, I don't think they're very they have not 1101 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 3: been good. But just keep in mind that had he 1102 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 3: made that field goal, they. 1103 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 2: Would have you get to overtime at that point. No, 1104 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: it had been wasn't it would be a game tying 1105 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 2: field goal. 1106 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right one more real quick, we've got about 1107 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 6: thirty second Sunday night foosball Cowboys twenty Steelers seventeen. By 1108 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 6: the way, uh Russell Wilson full participant in practice. 1109 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 4: He had a starter him the starter. 1110 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 2: Now he said the doors ajar is what Tomlin said today. 1111 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 2: The door is ajar. I don't I actually think that 1112 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 2: there's a lot wrong in Pittsburgh right now. I think 1113 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 2: the pick and stuff is real. Like the play the 1114 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: plays that he warn't sharp. Put some video of the 1115 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 2: plays that he actually did participate in, and he at best, 1116 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 2: I would say, half asked, did you see running routes? 1117 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty embarrassing. So he's got big problems. 1118 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 2: They can't lose this game at home with Micah Parsons 1119 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: out and with demarkt with, with Lawrence out, you can't 1120 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 2: can't lose the game like that. There there was nothing 1121 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 2: to fear from Dallas, and. 1122 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 4: They turned it over twice. 1123 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 2: He did in the red zone, so there was every 1124 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: opportunity for them to win it, and they didn't. I 1125 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 2: think they are despite their record at three and two 1126 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 2: and their their schedules navigable over the next few weeks, 1127 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 2: but they're They're no threat. They got a lot of 1128 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 2: trying to keep it together. 1129 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 4: We got problems. They they also they've got some problems. 1130 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 4: Uh My. 1131 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 3: One thought on this one was this game produced so 1132 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 3: Jalen Tolbert plays because Cooks is out catches the game winner. 1133 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 3: The play before, he had been hit in the pravats 1134 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 3: with great force, and his teammate gave an unreal postgame 1135 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 3: answer about that and said that basically he had sprained 1136 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 3: his testes play before, which I've never heard. 1137 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 4: Somebody say that. He came back and made the catch 1138 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 4: and he was just he was a big fan of 1139 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 4: the fortitude of Jalen Tolbert. 1140 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 2: Boost your game this season, the ballet Bet sports book 1141 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: app plays your first bet of fifty bucks more Eon 1142 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty back in bonus bets. Bally Bet 1143 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 2: official sports winning partner of your Cleveland Browns played by 1144 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 2: play voice Andrew Siciliano. 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Andrew Siciliano joins us, I, well 1154 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't. I'm just gonna ask it. What the hell? 1155 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: It's a tuesday. I see you doing these lovely beachwalks 1156 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 2: when you're breaking down. I mean, it just looks great. 1157 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 2: It looks like you're living the best possible life, buddy, 1158 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 2: can you Yeah, a proximity of where that be? I 1159 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 2: have quite a bit of a knowledge of the southern 1160 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 2: California areas a lot of time out there. Give me 1161 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 2: a ballpark of where this beachwalk is, just so I 1162 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 2: can next time I see it, I can place myself 1163 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: there with you. 1164 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 5: Good morning, no morning here, good afternoon? 1165 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 4: Area. 1166 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 5: Yeah it is. That is in the South Bay in 1167 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 5: Los Angeles, So the the area south of lax and 1168 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 5: Manhattan Beach for most of the beach Redondo Beach area, 1169 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 5: the South Bay as we call it. And I can 1170 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 5: tell you right now, I'm looking out my window and 1171 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 5: it is beyond ugly. It is peace soup. 1172 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 4: We have had fog. 1173 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 5: An a dog advisory for like a week. I mean 1174 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 5: you could barely see your hand in front of your face. 1175 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 5: I had the doors open last night, like the windows 1176 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 5: open yesterday afternoon, watching watching the Guardians, and like sheets 1177 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 5: of fog coming in the window. 1178 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 4: Wow, such a hard Yeah, no, not what do you 1179 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 4: expect now? You expect you normally. 1180 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 5: Quite funny and quite beautiful and quite lovely. But if 1181 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 5: you notice, Bode that that walk we did to the 1182 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,959 Speaker 5: Browns insiders they post on Instagram on Saturday last week 1183 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 5: was was ugly with cloudy and foggy and that and sad. 1184 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, just her waves crashing, you know, 1185 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: it just seems like that's it. 1186 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 4: Hey. 1187 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 5: I could hear the way some nights, like if the 1188 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 5: wind's blow in the right way, get hear the waves, 1189 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 5: but not a lot now. 1190 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, natural natural noise machine. Give me a Southern California 1191 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 2: sport power ranking. Right now. You have media day for 1192 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,439 Speaker 2: the Lakers. The Dodgers are enthralled with the pods. You've 1193 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 2: got rams and chargers, you got sc where are where 1194 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 2: are we? What? What is the give me the give 1195 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: me your top five power ranking? What's most important to 1196 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 2: Southern California right now? 1197 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 5: I would say Dodgers won Laker Media Day. Two day, 1198 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 5: they unveiled these like City connect or whatever they call them. Jerseys. Yeah, 1199 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 5: are good, kind of like Lake Show purple, kind of weird. 1200 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, mixed reaction to it. I like them. 1201 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 5: I'd say those are the top two right now. The 1202 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 5: you know, I live around a whole bunch of USC 1203 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 5: people and uh they I mean USC fans, boosters, whomever, 1204 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 5: and they are collectively very sad after going from eleven 1205 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 5: they were eleven in the top twenty five to out 1206 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 5: of the top twenty five by losing to the fighting 1207 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 5: PJ Flex. So they are down and they are sad, 1208 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 5: and they think their season is over. I remind them 1209 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 5: as a twelve team playoff just went out and you 1210 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 5: never know. 1211 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 4: I mean to see what happened. 1212 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 5: At the top ten this past Saturday. It's it's not 1213 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 5: over at all, but they are. They are quite sad. 1214 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 5: The Chargers are kind of just boring. They're coming off 1215 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 5: of buy. I mean, if I could say that they're 1216 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 5: even at two and two and hardball has you know, 1217 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 5: a little bit of a buzz. They're not a fun product, 1218 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 5: but winning cures everything. Maybe they do that this week 1219 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 5: and the Rams are I mean, it's not the Brown 1220 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 5: situation per se, but they were very similar out of 1221 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 5: the gate with all the injuries on the offensive line right, 1222 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 5: trouble protecting the quarterback. And you know, they too have 1223 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 5: had some really close calls the week one game, the 1224 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 5: loss on Sunday night to the Lions. But you know, 1225 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 5: their injuries, not only the O line but Cooper Cup 1226 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 5: and Poking a coup of both out that is that 1227 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,240 Speaker 5: is just devastating to the their star power. So they're 1228 00:55:59,239 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 5: both kind of down. 1229 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully they get those guys back sooner rather than later. There, 1230 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 3: But it was nic see a little Blake Korum sighting 1231 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 3: for those still holding him on the in fantasy football. 1232 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 3: That was nicely big news of the day. Obviously a 1233 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 3: little bit of a shocker in New York let go. 1234 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 3: There are reports now that they had a heated argument 1235 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 3: after a postgame press conference for Rogers refused to look 1236 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 3: at solid team. 1237 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 1238 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 3: Their relationship began to touriating after Roger's trip to Egypt, 1239 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 3: which is actually what. 1240 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 4: We had said earlier. 1241 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: Thought that Wow, to come out, Yeah. 1242 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 4: We don't have scores. What'd you make of this? Pretty wild? 1243 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 3: And not only did he was he relieved of his 1244 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 3: duties and he was not allowed to speak to the 1245 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 3: team and was escorted out by security. 1246 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 5: I mean, how about that, the like you can't? 1247 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 4: I mean that is just bonkers crazy. 1248 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 5: First of all, firing guy week five when your team 1249 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 5: is two and three and you have a Monday night 1250 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 5: game coming up, your soul daring. I mean, if they 1251 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 5: weren't that Monday, that game they have a shirt for 1252 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 5: first guys, think about it, they're there. I look, it 1253 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 5: was one of those ones where you wake up this 1254 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 5: morning and you see it on your phone and you 1255 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 5: let out an expletive and then you get what what 1256 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 5: what because someone thinks that, you know, there's some emergency 1257 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 5: and you say Robert Sala got fired like it was 1258 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 5: just I was stunned. I don't get it. And I 1259 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 5: know people want to say that that Aaron Rodgers fired him. 1260 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 5: I think it's just red a great column, and I 1261 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 5: think it was News Day. I don't remember. Somebody wrote 1262 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 5: the column. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers the bad quarterback got him fired. 1263 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 5: Not necessarily. Aaron Rodgers, the behind the scenes deal maker, 1264 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 5: got him fired. He's not playing well. You put his 1265 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 5: numbers up against Zack Wilson's from last year. Believe they 1266 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 5: or not, they're not that dissimilar. They're not. But I 1267 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 5: still don't get it. I mean, the defense is playing 1268 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 5: reasonably well, but the offense. Are you going to fix 1269 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 5: the offense with the defensive coordinator taking over? I mean 1270 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers Nathaniel Hackett are still calling the shots. I 1271 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 5: don't know if that changes the offensive line is what 1272 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 5: it is. It really speaks to a fact that the 1273 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 5: owner was embarrassed in London and the owner thanks as 1274 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 5: many players have said that the players aren't held accountable. 1275 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 5: Same mistakes every day, every week, and they figured to 1276 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 5: do this now or the season is going to get 1277 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 5: out of hand. I was stunned. 1278 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the timing of it, at the very least is odd. 1279 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, they have Sunday night football there, Monday night football, 1280 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: then Sunday night football the next two weeks. So obviously, 1281 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 2: big big microscope on them and that entire operation. Our 1282 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 2: operation under a microscope is not pretty either. We talked 1283 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: on this is not a pleasant talk Andrew obviously, but 1284 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 2: on Monday we led the show off with it, and 1285 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 2: I think it was been around here since eighteen. To me, 1286 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: it was the low spot of that tenure in terms 1287 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 2: of just juxtaposed to the expectations of the season and 1288 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: just the way it looked, and you just thought that 1289 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 2: you're hopeful that something positive would come and then nothing did. 1290 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 2: It was one of the worst performances. How do you 1291 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 2: make sense of what happened on Sunday? And where do 1292 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 2: you go from here? 1293 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 5: It was as disheartening a loss in a non Ozhen 1294 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 5: sixteen seasons as I can remember. And I know Nathan 1295 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 5: and I, you and I were looking at each other 1296 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, and I think the conversation was 1297 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 5: just like I like, what what now? And I don't 1298 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 5: know that there is a magic this fixes everything? Answer. 1299 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 5: I do find it. And I was like, you know, 1300 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 5: everyone else on the zoom and watching from afar, I 1301 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 5: do find it interesting that I thought the door was 1302 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 5: open a crack a bit by by Kevin on his 1303 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 5: Monday Zoom to perhaps giving up play calling duties. I 1304 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 5: don't know that that fixes things, though, I'll be honest 1305 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 5: with think guys like Nathan, I, I'm with you what 1306 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 5: you said yesterday on the show. I think Kevin's fancy 1307 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 5: is a heck of a play caller and a heck 1308 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 5: of an offensive coach. I don't think which plays we 1309 00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 5: ask for on this sheet next fixes what a this offense? 1310 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 5: I don't ye, I just oh, I don't see that. 1311 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 5: I mean I see receivers running open at times. Brian 1312 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 5: Baldinger just posted a great one, Nathan. You and I 1313 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 5: had talked about this. If Jerry Judy open to the 1314 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 5: end zone on that on that third quarter possession after 1315 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 5: the sudden change, where you're like, how is that ball 1316 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 5: not thrown? I don't see it. But there are plenty 1317 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 5: of plays as well where there are receivers that are 1318 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 5: open where de Shawn simply doesn't have the time to 1319 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 5: get the ball out. And rarely do those two concepts 1320 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 5: coincide on the same play where there's a guy open 1321 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 5: and he sees it and there is also time given 1322 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 5: to the quarterback. 1323 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 3: You need more of those, yeah, And that's what we 1324 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 3: talked about, you know, yesterday, and you and I talked 1325 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 3: about it that kind of that one sequence down at 1326 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 3: the goal line, in many ways was a microcosm of 1327 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 3: every single thing that is ailing this offense. Pre snap 1328 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 3: penalty erases a touchdown on first down. Now you're back 1329 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 3: at the seven, and oh and you had to burn 1330 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 3: a time out after that. Then at the first down 1331 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 3: at the seven, Jerry Judy and the play that you're 1332 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 3: talking about, Brian Baldinger breaking down wide open on kind 1333 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 3: of a mesh and then slip to the back of 1334 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 3: the end zone. The Shawn doesn't see it, ends up 1335 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 3: taking a sack instead of a touchdown, it's a sack. 1336 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 3: Then the next play he gets out actually makes a 1337 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 3: good throw to Judy who drops it. So a touchdown 1338 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 3: now from a drop, a touchdown from a misread, a 1339 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 3: touchdown taken off from a penalty. And then on the 1340 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 3: final one, the pressure just gets there, which has been 1341 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 3: a problem all you're lying. 1342 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 4: You has to throw the ball away. We end up 1343 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 4: a twelve minu on the field, we end up kicking 1344 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 4: a field goal. 1345 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 3: And that in many ways is a microcosm of these 1346 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 3: self inflicted wounds. And yeah, I'm with you. There are 1347 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 3: so many things that need to be fixed. And like 1348 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: I said yesterday, I don't know if it has to 1349 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 3: be a change in you know personnel. I don't know 1350 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 3: if it's a change in coaching style. I don't know 1351 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 3: if it's a change in play color. I don't know 1352 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 3: if it's a change in the way that you approach 1353 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 3: the week to prepare for the games. And then obviously 1354 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 3: you need a big change in execution. But at some 1355 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 3: point something's got a change or else this team is 1356 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 3: going to it's going to be over before you even 1357 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 3: have a chance. I was joking yesterday, thirteen and four 1358 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 3: is still on the table for this football team. But 1359 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 3: you can't get there without winning this next game and 1360 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 3: stacking a lot of wins together. 1361 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,919 Speaker 5: Listen, I'll go back there. And I think I said 1362 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 5: this yesterday doing another radio interview. Once you give a 1363 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 5: play call, you don't get it back. I don't know 1364 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 5: that they're there. I don't know that that is the 1365 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 5: move that all of a sudden fixes everything. And this 1366 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 5: goes back. I've had this conversation with plenty of coaches 1367 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 5: in the past, offensive coaches, Brian Billocks specifically, because we 1368 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 5: used to talk about this all the time when he 1369 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 5: worked in our building an NFL network, And that is 1370 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 5: it's a slippery sloe. You know, if you give it 1371 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 5: if you give it up, you can't take it back, Like, 1372 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 5: what if it doesn't work, You can't just go Okay, 1373 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do this again right then? Then you know, 1374 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 5: then where are you? 1375 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 4: So? 1376 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 5: I'm kind of with you, Nathan. I would love to 1377 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 5: get back to what succeeded in Jacksonville, for example. Just 1378 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 5: try to go big and try to run the ball. Try, 1379 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 5: you know, if you have to pare down the playbook, 1380 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 5: do so. I don't know, but there have been so 1381 01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 5: many times where they're this close. I mean, I hate 1382 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 5: to play the what if game. What if the suspect 1383 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 5: call on Nick Harris isn't made, you have an eighty 1384 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 5: two year touchdown, your three hundred yards of offense, You 1385 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 5: win the game, period, And this conversation is a heck 1386 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 5: of a lot different. 1387 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 4: Now. 1388 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 5: I don't know, you get a better performance overall from 1389 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 5: the entire team in Washington. I'm not suggesting that one 1390 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 5: bat holding call all of a sudden crumbled, you know, 1391 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 5: the entire house of cards goes down. I don't know, 1392 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 5: but you know, Jerome doesn't fumble the ball midfield against 1393 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 5: the Giants, I'm convinced they're scoring. They're winning that game 1394 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 5: as well. Does that make you a better overall operation 1395 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 5: and a better overall team. I don't know. It Probably 1396 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 5: mask is the masks rather the bigger issues, but they 1397 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 5: are and it's the margin of it, the margins in 1398 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 5: this league. They are so close to having a better record, 1399 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 5: but probably the same issues. And so then where are you? 1400 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a tough spot, and it's it's 1401 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 2: not made easier by what you've got to deal with. 1402 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 2: You've got a Philly team that's coming off of a buye. 1403 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,040 Speaker 2: Then you've got a couple of divisional games, and so 1404 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 2: unfortunately the easy part, as it were, we're through this 1405 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 2: is about ready to get much much more more difficult 1406 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 2: going forward. I think we can all kind of acknowledge 1407 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: like that's the path forward is to get back into that. 1408 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 2: But we're honestly where going to put just win a game, 1409 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 2: Andrew like, we can't worry about big breacher stuff. We're 1410 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 2: just we're just win a game mode now, Like find 1411 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 2: a way to win a game and then try to 1412 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 2: win another one. 1413 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 5: Okay, so you want to focus on stopping saqeuon Barkley, 1414 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 5: let's do that. You want to focus on, you know, 1415 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 5: another running quarterback, obviously focus on that. You know, that's 1416 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 5: what you got to look at. You can you can 1417 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 5: you beat these Eagles corners? Heck, yes, of course you can't. 1418 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 5: You got to focus on that. You got to give 1419 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 5: the quarterback time to do that as well. He's got 1420 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 5: to see it downfield. You got to focus on that. 1421 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 5: So I'm with you. It's not about winning during the 1422 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 5: three game homestand it is about winning this week. And 1423 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 5: you're facing an Eagles team that is well rested in 1424 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 5: Eagles team that is getting healthy, an Eagles team that's 1425 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 5: obviously taken a lot of fire from its local media 1426 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 5: for its underperformance as well. And that's what you're walking into. 1427 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 5: You're walking into a situation where a team, I don't 1428 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,439 Speaker 5: want to say he's desperate for a victory, but they've 1429 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 5: had time to think about it, they've had time to 1430 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 5: get right and get healthy, and you're going to get 1431 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 5: their best game, you would have to think, or maybe 1432 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni's you know, the next guy after Robert Saw. 1433 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1434 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that. 1435 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. You've got a team that's got 1436 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 3: two weeks to prepare for you correct and unfortunately, like 1437 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,439 Speaker 3: the book is out, blitz the Browns. Bring your linebackers, 1438 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 3: blitz us. We have no answer for that, and then 1439 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 3: stress us horizonically as well as vertically. In the past 1440 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 3: game and in the Jets sweep game, and our defense 1441 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 3: has had problems with that. 1442 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 4: And this is a team in terms of talent. 1443 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 3: You think about AJ Brown's gonna be back, DeVonta Smith 1444 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 3: can run. Saquon Barkley's averaging over one hundred yards a game, 1445 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 3: has one hundred plus total yards every game this season. 1446 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 3: They've got a quarterback that can run, which gave us 1447 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 3: plenty of fits last week. They've got a lot of 1448 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 3: the things that are difficult for this Cleveland Browns football 1449 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 3: team to deal with. And so it's all out there 1450 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 3: on tape, and that's the hard part. And tell you 1451 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 3: can turn your deficiencies into strengths. You're going to see 1452 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 3: the same things week in and week out, and so 1453 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 3: far we have proven kind of to be unable to 1454 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 3: deal with them. And so that's a scary thing to me. 1455 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 5: Andrew, Yeah, you're you're you're making middle linebackers national stars. 1456 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 5: I let me some pretty Lulu. He's the tack of 1457 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 5: a player, but he's doing the national media tour this week. Yeah, 1458 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 5: the book is out. You're you're you're no, it's true 1459 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 5: true out. You're setting your backers. They're not going to 1460 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 5: either pick them up or be if they do, stop 1461 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 5: them from harassing your quarterback. And and that's that's how 1462 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 5: Deshaun's getting beaten up, at least one of the reasons 1463 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 5: and one of the ways he's getting beaten up. You know, 1464 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 5: there are other plays as well where you look at 1465 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 5: the tape and say, wow, you had a guy open, 1466 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 5: you ran yourself into a sack. That happens as well. 1467 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 5: All of those things can be true. You got to 1468 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 5: fix them both here because the Eagles, you know, what 1469 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 5: did they do last weekend? Not as if NFL teams 1470 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 5: don't prepare when they had an opponent at the same 1471 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 5: time you're playing, but they sat at home and they 1472 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 5: watched Sunday Ticket and they saw they they watched the 1473 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 5: sand game. 1474 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,439 Speaker 4: They most certainly did. 1475 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 3: Andrew, this is week two of the Bar Tank and 1476 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 3: Browns fans, you can get this podcast with Andrew Siciliana 1477 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts or on YouTube dot com 1478 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Slash Browns. What can you tell people about the bar 1479 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 3: Tank and what do you have for him this week 1480 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 3: on episode number two, I well. 1481 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 5: Thank you for the thank you for the shameless flood, Nathan. 1482 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 5: I was in this one obviously. Look, the game was 1483 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 5: the game. We just talked about it. It was hard 1484 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 5: to hard to make it sound better than it felled 1485 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 5: in the moment, and it fell to the fans sitting 1486 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 5: there watching and listening. I just tried to take him 1487 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 5: and I will try to do this every week, take 1488 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 5: him inside the booth. Boy, you and I saw it, 1489 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 5: not just the amazing food at Northwest Stadium and the 1490 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 5: amazing angle as well. I mean as good an angle 1491 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 5: and as good a for you as you could get 1492 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 5: in any stadium in America. That's right, But just you know, 1493 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 5: our view from the booth and how you got to 1494 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 5: move forward and things like that. In weeks to come, 1495 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 5: we'll have guests and and and you know, other fun stuff. 1496 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 5: But this was just basically get back home one Monday 1497 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 5: and do thirty minutes of what we saw. But you know, 1498 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 5: we thank everyone for listening and watching. It's been great 1499 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 5: to work with and work on it so far, and 1500 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully big things ahead. 1501 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 2: You are one of the one of the people who 1502 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 2: has seen Oregon in person and Ohio State in person. 1503 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Saturday? 1504 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 5: It's fun? How about that? First and foremost? I think 1505 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 5: that building is going to be loud. It is an amazing, 1506 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 5: amazing atmosphere. Oregon has speed on the perimeter. They're going 1507 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 5: to try to beat you deep. Dylan Gabriel is amazingly accurate. 1508 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 5: He can move a little bit, not that much. I 1509 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 5: know early in the season there were some obvious lanes 1510 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 5: where he chose not to take off, where it almost 1511 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 5: seemed as if we'll sign the ROC was telling him, Hey, 1512 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 5: don't put yourself out there at a risky injury. Just 1513 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 5: throw the ball. I'm curious to see if they incorporate 1514 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 5: a little bit more quarterback run game and let him 1515 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 5: go a little bit. I think their offensive line play 1516 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 5: has gotten better the last couple of weeks. I'm fascinated 1517 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 5: by the Ohiose State pass rush, how often they can 1518 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 5: get to him. And I think the Oregon running backs 1519 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 5: look a lot healthier and faster than they did a 1520 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. I think Whittingham was not really 1521 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 5: fully back from the ACL when we saw him. I'm 1522 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 5: not saying three weeks all of a sudden magically made 1523 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 5: him the guy he was a year and a half ago. 1524 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 5: But he seems a lot faster than he did when 1525 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 5: we saw him a few weeks and then that game 1526 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 5: he had a long touchdown as well. He just looks 1527 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,440 Speaker 5: like he has an extra birst to George James is special. 1528 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 5: I think their suspect organ is at corner a little bit, 1529 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 5: so I think Ohio State certainly has the advantage there 1530 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 5: as well. 1531 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 2: All right, buddy, good stuff, Enjoy your walks. I look 1532 01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 2: forward to him Friday when they drop us. Great, it 1533 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 2: looks good, especially as the weather starts to get dicey here. 1534 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 2: Keep You've given us a little window, buddy, appreciate you. 1535 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 5: Oh what's what's the weather like there? 1536 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 2: It's gorgeous today, It's sunning. It's bluebird sky high sixties, 1537 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 2: gorgeous everything you wow. Okay, but they are left, so 1538 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 2: we acknowledge that too. 1539 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,679 Speaker 5: Okay. Well, I can't wait to a set up shop 1540 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 5: there next week. So I'll see you in person soon. 1541 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 2: Yes, very exciting, very exciting. Andrew, Thank you, buddy, and 1542 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 2: play by play voice of your Cleveland Browns on the 1543 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hotline presented by twisty hard iced tea after 1544 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 2: further review. 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There's not a whole lot to 1558 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 3: get into. Okay, not much positive, brother, not much positive anyway. Offensively, 1559 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 3: you missed reads, you drop passes, you had pre snap penalties, 1560 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,560 Speaker 3: your quarterback was under pressure. 1561 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 4: YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Not great, not a whole lot. 1562 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 3: But if you were to single out a few things, 1563 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 3: this is what I would single out. 1564 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 4: Pleasant surprises, right. 1565 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 3: Jed Wills Yeah, Jed Wills was actually prett day, prettday, 1566 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 3: prettday good in this game. Jed Wills in terms of 1567 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 3: pass blocking, and this one was not credited with allowing 1568 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 3: a He was a credit with allowing two pressures one 1569 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 3: sack that came on the twist that we talked about 1570 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 3: where he got on the round hip. 1571 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 4: But overall I. 1572 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 3: Thought he actually played pretty well. He and Joel Batonio 1573 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 3: were our highest graded pass blockers. That was that he 1574 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 3: stood out in a positive way, So that certainly that 1575 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 3: was something that was good to see. Our quarterback was 1576 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 3: under dress on forty seven percent of his dropbacks. That's 1577 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 3: not you can't you can't win that way. No, he 1578 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 3: was three for ten for twenty one yards when under pressure. 1579 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 3: For that's thirty nine point six quarterback rating. We're not good. 1580 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 3: Off of play action lot not good. Shaun Watson in 1581 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 3: this game on passes that went more than ten yards 1582 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 3: in the air was four for eleven, so not good. 1583 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 3: We couldn't run the football again either. 1584 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 4: Not good. 1585 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 3: Defensively, some things that stood out that I liked. Obviously, 1586 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 3: j Oka continues to be awesome to mistackles. We're just 1587 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 3: gonna have to live with him because he flies in 1588 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,839 Speaker 3: and makes such at crazy angles and makes incredible plays. 1589 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 3: Two takeaways in this game. I mean, this game could 1590 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 3: have been even worse if it wasn't for Jeremiah. So 1591 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 3: he had the interception near the goal line. He's got 1592 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 3: the force fumble, which was an incredible punch out, like 1593 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 3: he really wound up and punched that ball out. 1594 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 2: I show them how many times I paid places last 1595 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 2: seventh grade football game tonight, I'm like, ye, just once, 1596 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 2: if somebody has somebody held up like that, punch it out. 1597 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Punch the football man. 1598 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,839 Speaker 3: I mean five, let's go five games. Leads the Browns 1599 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,759 Speaker 3: with thirty nine tackles. He's got six tackles for a loss. 1600 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 3: He's got a sack, he's got two passes defense, he's 1601 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 3: got an interception, he's got a force fumble. 1602 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 4: The guy is he has been sensational Devin Bush. 1603 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 3: And I know there's the play out there that was 1604 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 3: not good on that Jets sweep where I don't know 1605 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 3: what he was diving at, But overall I thought he 1606 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 3: actually did a pretty good job. Ten tackles in this one, 1607 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 3: did not miss a tackle. I guess it's not a 1608 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 3: mistackle if you dive the wrong direction. It doesn't even 1609 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 3: count as a tackle because he didn't touch them. Do 1610 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,480 Speaker 3: you have to touch somebody for it to be a mistackle? 1611 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1612 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,480 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. 1613 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 3: There was that one other little positive. Zadarius Smith got 1614 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 3: his third sack of the season, had at season high 1615 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 3: five pressures, so he'd had two sacks on four pressures. 1616 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 3: I want to say coming into this one got five pressures. 1617 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 3: That was great to see there, and then you know 1618 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 3: the bonus on the special teams unit. Folks, put your 1619 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 3: hands together for Cory Bojorquez. Cory Behorcz is averaging fifty 1620 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 3: one point nine yards per punt. That's third best in 1621 01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 3: the NFL. He leads the NFL with thirteen hundred in 1622 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 3: eighteen punting yards trustway of the commanders. I don't even 1623 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 3: know why he's getting paid. He only has three hundred 1624 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 3: and seventeen yards of punts on eight punts. Our guy's 1625 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 3: got thirty punts. How about that thirteen hundred and eight 1626 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,160 Speaker 3: yards everaging fifty one point nine. He's averaging forty three 1627 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 3: point nine net. He's top ten in that, and then 1628 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 3: inside the twenty he's already put fourteen punts inside the 1629 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 3: twenty that's the most in the NFL. So Corey Bojorquez, 1630 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 3: you're doing a great job. Brother also has the longest 1631 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 3: punt in the NFL this year, eighty four yards. 1632 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the end, Yeah, there's not much I. 1633 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 4: Will get sound effects. They don't want to play that 1634 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 4: after further review sound. 1635 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 2: Effects in this center. It's it's where we're at. I mean, 1636 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 2: it's tough spot. I did get this. You remember we 1637 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 2: were talking about use of the of the Native American 1638 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 2: chief on the helmet, right, and I meant I told 1639 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 2: the story about Blackie Wetzel designing it and his family 1640 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 2: members trying to get that back or try to find 1641 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 2: a way to get that that logo back. And Buddy 1642 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 2: h a guy that that follows a brown longtime Browns 1643 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 2: fans out the Montana area. Talked with Lance Wetzel before 1644 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 2: the game, who is relative of and they feel pretty 1645 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 2: confident there could be a Redskins throwback uniform in the future. 1646 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 2: So apparently working towards paying homage to that history. 1647 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 3: So I felt like they kind of were trying in 1648 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 3: their current kit to look as much like the Redskins 1649 01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 3: as they could the old the former look. Yeah, they're 1650 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 3: wearing the yellow pants they had the maroon top. I know, 1651 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 3: it's a different red. 1652 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 4: It's more of them. 1653 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 3: It's a darker red. It feels like than what they 1654 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 3: wore before. That was that was a decent look. They 1655 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 3: of course bring them back and of course find a 1656 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 3: way to do that and honor. 1657 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 4: The name was the issue. The name was the issue, 1658 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:48,719 Speaker 4: and you still have the chiefs. 1659 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 3: It's yes, there are still things that are celebrating Native 1660 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 3: American history and culture in a very positive way. And 1661 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 3: I think that that is a beautiful regal logo. And 1662 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 3: I think and I know that people the community do, 1663 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 3: which is significantly more important than than my opinion. 1664 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that would be awesome. 1665 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 2: Did you sense, like, just what did you notice difference 1666 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 2: from the previous times you'd been there with the Snyder 1667 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,879 Speaker 2: ownership versus the Harris ownership. 1668 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't remember. 1669 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 2: The nachos really weren't impressive. 1670 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 3: Well, at halftime, we were looking for any type of 1671 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:26,680 Speaker 3: solace anything. Yeah, those chos are pretty good type. 1672 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 2: So give me something to make it all go away. 1673 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1674 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 3: It was funny though, and some people on Twitter thought 1675 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 3: that it was I don't know if they appreciate it. 1676 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 2: Or not. 1677 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 3: But after one of the touchdowns like that Major Tuddy 1678 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,439 Speaker 3: is the most it's an absurd mass And I said that, 1679 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, we're at. 1680 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,799 Speaker 4: The point where the announcers are attacking the other team's mascot, 1681 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,799 Speaker 4: Like no, it's just a bad mask. It looks ridiculous, 1682 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 4: And well what else were we going to talk about? Yeah, yeah, 1683 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 4: it was bad. 1684 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,759 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, because we have the picture 1685 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 2: of when Zigura met Major touch we do the bus. 1686 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 2: We don't have it here. My god, there's a there's 1687 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 2: a picture of you meet you meeting Major Tuddy like right. 1688 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,640 Speaker 4: At me, right into your mix Oh my god? What 1689 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 4: did I say to him? Like? I was like, I 1690 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 4: don't remember what I said, with something like are you 1691 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 4: see it? Come on, man, come on? So Ciliano's laughing 1692 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 4: in the background of the picture. Who has the picture? There? 1693 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 4: It is? I have? Aready got? This is news to me. 1694 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. 1695 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 4: He's getting it pulled up right now? 1696 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 2: All right, make sure that everything else is down before 1697 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 2: you put it on a screen, jam master J. 1698 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 4: I don't want your subscription. I don't know in the public. 1699 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 4: You don't need all your. 1700 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Your subscription choices made public, buddy, boy, make sure you 1701 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 2: do it once right? No, that wasn't it. If you. 1702 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 3: Look at you look, I'm just like, come on, man, 1703 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 3: look at the look on your face. 1704 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,720 Speaker 4: Come on, what are you doing here? Man? I think 1705 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 4: that's what I said, like, what are we doing? 1706 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 1707 01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 4: Bad enough? 1708 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,679 Speaker 3: That whole times like a suit Who took this picture? 1709 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 3: And is it a live photo? So there sounds you 1710 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 3: have no patience for Tuddy none. I'm not get up 1711 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 3: like this is kindly embarrassment? Pro are you embarrassed. 1712 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,839 Speaker 2: Walking around in the jacket? 1713 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? The best was the in broadcast harm done to him. 1714 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 1715 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,440 Speaker 4: All I said was that he's a ridiculous mascot. Ceciliana 1716 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 4: was ready to fight him in the snout. 1717 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 2: It's like a man, oh that is good, all right, 1718 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 2: we're gonna do the fastest growing segments. 1719 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,000 Speaker 6: That's what's actually, this is so much more to come 1720 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 6: and it is. Yeah, excuse me, I don't think so, 1721 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:44,160 Speaker 6: GiB it. 1722 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 4: Were happy. 1723 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm happy to go. Doesn't feel like that map is 1724 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:49,559 Speaker 2: gonna add. 1725 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1726 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 6: I thought we were going to stag at fifty three. 1727 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 6: But if we don't want to we no, no. 1728 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 2: But right now, hey, we just got out of Siciliano, 1729 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 2: like we we gonna have to further review. So I 1730 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 2: think what we have is four downs coming up next correct, 1731 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 2: so then so then and then after that is so 1732 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 2: much So the thought. 1733 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 6: Was after further review was actually going to go longer. 1734 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 6: But now that I'm looking at the time, all good, 1735 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 6: as you were, OK, we'll break, We'll break with so 1736 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 6: much more. There will be another segment. All right, very good? 1737 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 4: Go home. 1738 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley bed Now 1739 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESP and Cleveland. 1740 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 2: Brown's Fans Got Party with Josh Cribs, Kevin mac Show. 1741 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,799 Speaker 2: Hey to more True Fan Travel hosting premium trip packages 1742 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,560 Speaker 2: for Browns fans to New Orleans and Denver. Flight so tells, tailgates, 1743 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 2: tickets and more. It's all taken care of, is it true? 1744 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,520 Speaker 2: Fantravel dot com today and reserve your ultimate Browns travel package. 1745 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 2: Those are two very different and fun trips. 1746 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 6: Yes, yes they are, Yes they are. When is I 1747 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 6: don't even Denver is a Monday nighter. That's like right 1748 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 6: after Thanksgiving? That might Denver game weekend? 1749 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 2: You go, what do I know? 1750 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 4: There? 1751 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 2: It is December second, It's a Monday night. That is 1752 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 2: a Monday nighter. Tough game too, That is not. 1753 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 6: No, that's not out there around then, because four days 1754 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 6: later we're headed to your water. 1755 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. You love Pittsburgh. You love the food, the permanna, 1756 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 2: you love the fact they put those those fries on, 1757 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 2: the sandwich is with the Coleslaw, all of it. Suck 1758 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 2: it down. Iron What are those what are those beers? 1759 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 4: Like? 1760 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 2: Iron City? I know he's threatening my children now, the 1761 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 2: Iron City life. It could be. That's fine. Look, the 1762 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:17,720 Speaker 2: truth hurts Pittsburgh, PIPA, I am not no. You were 1763 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,680 Speaker 2: quick to bring up Pittsburgh and give them all of 1764 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 2: this credit. 1765 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,639 Speaker 3: The only justification for praising those nachos was just using 1766 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 3: them as a pawn to praise Pittsburgh, because otherwise those 1767 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 3: are the most forgettable nachos in the history of the world. 1768 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,680 Speaker 3: It was just your affinity for Pittsburgh that caused you 1769 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 3: to bring attention to them. 1770 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 4: That's it. 1771 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 2: It's Patty Hurst. He's fall in love with his captors. 1772 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 3: Yes, it's crazy. Never thought it's it's Stockholm syndrome. Stock 1773 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,679 Speaker 3: He's falling in love with them. Is I do enjoy 1774 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 3: this bit? 1775 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 4: I'd like this guy I mean it is more than 1776 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 4: my father. I will be. When we were sitting on 1777 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:00,679 Speaker 4: the run will everything. 1778 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 3: When we were sitting on the runway for four and 1779 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 3: a half hours prior to departing. 1780 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 4: You should get ready for that against prior to departing. 1781 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore reasonable amount of time. 1782 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, felt great, which, by the way, is a girl 1783 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 6: is like a child. Every five minutes, his head is. 1784 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 4: Like between my seat, going, hey, what is going on? 1785 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 4: Why have we left yet? Why ever we left? 1786 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1787 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 4: What's going on? Hey? 1788 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 6: What is going I'm like, I am in row thirty nine. 1789 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 6: I have no idea what is going on on? The 1790 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,600 Speaker 6: thirty eight answered and what's by the way, it was half. 1791 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 4: Saying what is going on? In three quarters? This is 1792 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 4: ridiculous complaining. Yeah. 1793 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 3: But the weird thing was while we were sitting there, 1794 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 3: all of a sudden somebody's phone rang and it was 1795 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 3: playing Renegade and everybody was like, wait what And I 1796 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 3: just like, pipa in here, just like it's not, Oh 1797 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:00,040 Speaker 3: my god. 1798 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 4: Is even want I wanted? I will reserve the right 1799 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 4: to throw back it up. Man. 1800 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,519 Speaker 3: We know that you're good at finding obscure pieces of 1801 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 3: art and plastering them by the way. I don't want 1802 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,919 Speaker 3: to say anything, but the slide of this franchise coincided 1803 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 3: with you posting those pictures up, so perhaps you're to blame. 1804 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,480 Speaker 3: But I think that I'd love to see a Steeler's 1805 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 3: bedecked people plasterlater holding up hold holy nachos, listening to Renegade. 1806 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the quote from Woodie Johnson today. This is 1807 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 2: one of the most talented teams ever assembled by the 1808 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 2: New York Jets. So somehow that the change that I made, 1809 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 2: I believe will bring new energy and positivity that will 1810 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 2: lead to more wins starting now. Most talented teams ever assembled. 1811 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 2: So that's which might be true. So don't have a lot. 1812 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 4: That's a vote of confidence right for the front office. 1813 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 3: But reports that he didn't even tell the front office 1814 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 3: he was so that seems like not a vote of 1815 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 3: confidence for the front office. Jeez, oh, man, I just 1816 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,320 Speaker 3: saw some five Power rankings. 1817 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,799 Speaker 2: Not good, but I don't like. I don't I imagine 1818 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:19,760 Speaker 2: that ain't gonna be a lot of fun. 1819 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:20,719 Speaker 4: Higher or lower. 1820 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 2: We're going to work on something different, something else. Yeah. 1821 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's get going college football for four downs with 1822 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 6: Uncle Bo and everybody's favorite college football analyst. 1823 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 4: I didn't realize was this. Did this happen on Tuesday? 1824 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 2: Last week? We had to push it. We had to 1825 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 2: push it last week because we got full up on 1826 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 2: a Tuesday. Let's go there it is. Yeah, her enthusiasm and. 1827 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 4: Energy electric factory. Go ahead, here we go. 1828 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 6: Biggest X factor for Ohio State Saturday Night versus Oregon 1829 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 6: not named Jeremiah Smith. 1830 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 2: College Football Nate. 1831 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 3: Biggest X factor in the Ohio State Oregon game not 1832 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 3: named Jeremy Smith. 1833 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,480 Speaker 6: Bucky's first trip to Eugene since nineteen sixty seven. 1834 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 2: Last time they played Oregon got him pretty good at 1835 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 2: the shoe. 1836 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll tell you what, not only is Jeremiah 1837 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 3: Smith that transcendent talent and as I was proven right 1838 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 3: very quickly after proclaiming the number one pick in the 1839 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,719 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven NFL Draft, as he continues to impress, 1840 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 3: I couldn't help but notice a teammate of his who 1841 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 3: was awesome. Because teams are going to come out, they're 1842 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,160 Speaker 3: going to try to take him away. But a Mecca Abuka, 1843 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 3: that's right, is a stud. He's a stud, and he 1844 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 3: is the biggest X factor in this game. Because you're 1845 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 3: going to have to score to beat the Oregon Ducks. 1846 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 4: You score. 1847 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 2: Good answer. It's a very good answer and made fun. 1848 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,720 Speaker 2: I think what you're going to see out of the 1849 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 2: Buckeyes in chip Kelly offensively is a bludgeoning. I think 1850 01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 2: they are going to run it, run it, run it, 1851 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 2: run it, and run it a little bit more and 1852 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 2: than play action off it. I do think that the 1853 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,920 Speaker 2: biggest X factor, though, is the Buckeye secondary. David Igmnoson, 1854 01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 2: Denzel Burke, Caleb Downs, Lathan Ransom, those guys are dudes. 1855 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,640 Speaker 2: And Dylan Gabriel will throw it to you. He had 1856 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,640 Speaker 2: two picks in the red zone last week the other 1857 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 2: game against Sparty, So I think the Buckeye secondary could 1858 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 2: have a little bit of a day. 1859 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 3: Next second, I have a question College Football, Nate, College 1860 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,200 Speaker 3: Football Nate. Cfn's got a question here when you think 1861 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,439 Speaker 3: of the Buckeyes running game in this one, because you 1862 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 3: mentioned them as possible, you know other which running back 1863 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 3: are you more focused on or is it them as 1864 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,480 Speaker 3: their can? 1865 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, and people's is really good. To the 1866 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 2: true freshman, it's quinch On Judkins because he is a 1867 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 2: beast better than Henderson. He's better and he's stronger. He's 1868 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 2: just physical, like he just put a physical toll that 1869 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 2: he puts on defenses, like every game he's had two 1870 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,200 Speaker 2: called back, like he will just stiff arm somebody to 1871 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 2: the ground, like just. 1872 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 4: Physically Atron means business. 1873 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 2: He's got. He doesn't have the Christian speed of Nick, 1874 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 2: but he runs like Nick, like he's one cut upfield 1875 01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 2: and boom like christ Like love nightmare. I don't want 1876 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 2: to go that far. He doesn't have that size, that 1877 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,680 Speaker 2: much girth that Ako had. But a Larry Johnson there 1878 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, Nick Chubb minus the top end speed. 1879 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, second down reality or overreaction. Alabama will 1880 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,799 Speaker 6: miss the first twelve team college football playoff. 1881 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 3: They're not gonna miss it. Please, They're not going to 1882 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 3: miss it. They just shouldn't be in the top twenty 1883 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,200 Speaker 3: five right now. They will work their way back. But 1884 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 3: this is to me, be in the top twenty five 1885 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 3: I like it. They shouldn't be. 1886 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 4: You lost the Vanderbilt I agree, were talking about king 1887 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,240 Speaker 4: through the door clos This. 1888 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 3: Is an outrageous loss. They shouldn't be in the top 1889 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,759 Speaker 3: twenty five. They will likely earn their way back, however, 1890 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,280 Speaker 3: to me, as the Czar. 1891 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 4: They are. They have no another loss, They're out. That's it. 1892 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 3: I don't care if it's the Georgia in the SEC championship. 1893 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 3: You lose one two lost team, with one of those 1894 01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 3: loss being the Vanderbilt, you're out. 1895 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,920 Speaker 2: Problem is, there's only one undefeated team in the SEC, 1896 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,200 Speaker 2: and that's Texas A and M. Everybody else as a loss, 1897 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 2: so the loss are going to start to stack. Their 1898 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,920 Speaker 2: remaining schedule just has Tennessee and Oklahoma of possible missteps. 1899 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,720 Speaker 2: So I think they'll be reorganized. I do think they'll 1900 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 2: make the playoff. They do not play Texas in the 1901 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 2: regular season, g man, they would play them in the 1902 01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,799 Speaker 2: SEC title game. How dare you correct me? No, Texas 1903 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,639 Speaker 2: A and M in Texas, Texas A and M and Texas. Yeah, 1904 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 2: you're right, undefeated. I thought you're talking about Bama playing Texas. 1905 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 2: Texas and M is undefeated in Texas is undefeated in 1906 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,599 Speaker 2: the league, in the league. He was right, he was right. 1907 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 2: Oklehorns is still. 1908 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,880 Speaker 4: Turned down reality or overreaction. 1909 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 6: The ACC is a two horse race, with Miami and 1910 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 6: Clemson the two other ranked teams. Pitt and SMU are pretenders. 1911 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,639 Speaker 6: Mister Finebaum, the floor iss. 1912 01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,280 Speaker 3: You know SMU storied history, fun program, watch the thirty 1913 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:54,839 Speaker 3: for thirty. Are they serious contenders this year? No, Pitt, 1914 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean they used to celebrate the days of Kenny Pickett. Unserious. 1915 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,040 Speaker 3: So it comes down to two teams, Miami and Clemson. 1916 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,680 Speaker 3: And of those two, I've been told clems in his 1917 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 3: back until they beat Miami, I won't believe it's right 1918 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 3: now to me, the only serious team in that conference 1919 01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,280 Speaker 3: are the Hurricanes of Miami. 1920 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right that those are the 1921 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,720 Speaker 2: two most serious. I do think SMU could they made 1922 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 2: a change with Jennings at quarterback. He run, he throws 1923 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:21,720 Speaker 2: for two hundred, runs for one hundred every time out. 1924 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 4: I like his dual threat to nature. 1925 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,880 Speaker 2: I knew that you would. I need like his style. 1926 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 2: I think that they are closer to the other two. 1927 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 2: It's certainly than Pitt. 1928 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,160 Speaker 6: All right, one final one, last one, boy, it's down 1929 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,680 Speaker 6: because we can't get to the bonus. We'll get to 1930 01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,600 Speaker 6: the bonus at some point this week, because I do 1931 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,519 Speaker 6: want to circle back to that. YEP ranked the top 1932 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,880 Speaker 6: five remaining unbeaten teams. There are twelve overall, but these 1933 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:48,639 Speaker 6: are the top five. Ohio State Texas, Oregon, Penn State, Miami, 1934 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 6: Nate Fine bomb. 1935 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 4: Penn State out Georgia in let's go. 1936 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 2: In terms of rating the top five remaining undefeated, I 1937 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 2: would go Texas, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, Miami. 1938 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 3: I already said what I said. I said, I went. 1939 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,600 Speaker 3: But he's Ohio State beats. 1940 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 4: I don't care. Penn States doesn't matter. 1941 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:09,160 Speaker 2: They're not real. 1942 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 4: I don't They're not real. 1943 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,240 Speaker 3: No, They're like the three and oh Steelers were Sorry 1944 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,720 Speaker 3: PEEPA truth hurts. 1945 01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 2: It does, It does hurt so much more to come 1946 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,479 Speaker 2: you listen to Cleveland Browns ESPN. 1947 01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Ballely Bet 1948 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 1: now live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 1949 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,479 Speaker 2: Voting is now open for a high school football game 1950 01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 2: of the Week. The Browns will select one high school 1951 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 2: game in northeast Ohio to be featured the high School 1952 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,639 Speaker 2: Game of the Week presented by Ohio Cat and Associate 1953 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,840 Speaker 2: Weight and Association with Forever Long or Matchups Ursuline at 1954 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:52,040 Speaker 2: the SSJ Crestwood in Berkshire, Glenville and Hoban and Ravenna 1955 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:56,080 Speaker 2: and Streetsborough. Vote now in Cleveland. Browns dot com real quickly, 1956 01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 2: you have some some transactional things. 1957 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Browns have waved guard Javon Co and defensive 1958 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,760 Speaker 3: tackle Sam Kamara and tight and Blake Whiteheart. The club 1959 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 3: has also released linebacker Michael Barrett, running back Royce Freeman, 1960 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,360 Speaker 3: and tackle Ricky Lee from the practe squad. My guess 1961 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 3: is they would like all three of those guys to 1962 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,479 Speaker 3: come back to the practice squad. Whiteheart, of course, had 1963 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,559 Speaker 3: the touchdown in Vegas, was on our show last week. 1964 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 3: That tells me Moe Hurst is ready to come back. Yeah, 1965 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, Michael Dunn is back and they probably need 1966 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:21,960 Speaker 3: some spots at lineback or so that's why they're freeing 1967 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:22,880 Speaker 3: up some roster spots. 1968 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:23,360 Speaker 4: There you go. 1969 01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 2: The next level is coming up next. Thanks for listening, buddy, 1970 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,839 Speaker 2: Cleveland Rouns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1971 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,760 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1972 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland