1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Let's do this thing. Excited. Here we go, Here we go. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: All right, I tried something a little different, so let's 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: just feel it out. Okay, okay, pray, He's gonna look 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: and see if he's the right rock. Look before he 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: does anything. Whoa the top in motion, second in gold 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: to the end zone and right on the goal line. 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: It is caught by Hogan for the touchdown, becomes the 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: on side kick, and it is grapped with complete control 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: by Ebner. They got one shot for the game. One 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: play in Evans to the end zone, abits and complete 11 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and the Patriots hold on for the victory. Yes, the 12 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Patriots held on for the victory. Tom Brady through for 13 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: three three yards and one touchdown. And uh the Patriots defense, 14 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: which has been so maligned historically bad in the first 15 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: quarter of the season, stepped up against the New England 16 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the help of Nick Folk, 17 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: of course, a nineteen fourteen win for the Pats that 18 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: improves the defending Super Bowl record it's champions record to 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: three and two. And um, I'm here because Dan Hans 20 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: is here with Greg Rosenthal and uh Erica Tamposey behind 21 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: the glass celebrating like a maniac. It's tam Posey's world. 22 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Loved the remix at the top of the show. Yeah, yeah, 23 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: that didn't sound good. I didn't like that, But what 24 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: can I do at this point? Um, all right, let's 25 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: get into it. Greg. Uh. This was not a perfect 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: performance by the Patriots, but the defense really did uh 27 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: step up, especially in light of how how how terrible 28 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: they've been and the short week and all that. The 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: defense deserves a lot of credit and the Bucks seem 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: to be just out of sorts right now. They are offensively, 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: and I think you give Bill Belichick and Matt Patricia, 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, kudos for their game plan. They backed up 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: all night. They really took away the deep ball. They 34 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: made Jamis be patient and worked the ball slowly down 35 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the field and execute and he really wasn't up to it. 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: And yes it was close at the end. And I 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: think the Patriots offensively will really regret not putting this 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: game away. That was really on. That's really all old Tommy, 39 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: who had a couple of great quarters, but they were 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: quiet in the fourth quarter because turnovers to by the way, 41 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: you know, one of them not really on Tom Brad 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: free guy hits him in the back. But that those 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: turnovers point out what complimentary football this was. Because the 44 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Bucks didn't score off of either of those turnovers. The 45 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Bucks had a hundred and sixty yards going into the 46 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, so until until late when the Patriots offense 47 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: really couldn't get anything going. Uh, the defense to the jump, Yes, 48 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: the defense played very well. I was extremely Uh and 49 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: by the way, I locked this up thanks by the way, guys, 50 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: Biluser moves the three and two. I'll take a Patriots 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: lock any for me either either you you know, either 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots win or you get the lock run. Yeah, 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: but you did follow another half game behind in the 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: lock standing. So let's let's let's be honestly down with 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the lock standings. No one's even defined what a lock 56 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: has to be. But that's beside the point. Look at you, salty, 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: so salty? Um, all right? So the problem I was 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: so disappointed in the in the Bucks, and and I 59 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: thought they played a terrible game. Jamis Winston. Can you 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: make a play, buddy, I mean, you go the whole game. 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: He finally heats up a little bit near the end, 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: and and you can't completely blame him. Uh, And Nick Folk, 63 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: you know they have. It's a curse or something going 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: on in Tampa with a kicker situation. Uh missing a 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: thirty one yard or that. That was outrageous to me. 66 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: But so yes, the to me, the story of the 67 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: game is the Hatriots getting it together on defense, but 68 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks are as biggest story to me that they 69 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: just don't seem to have it together. Doug Martin comes back, 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Doug Martin to me look good, and for him to 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: come on the field look good. And Winston to miss 72 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: so many throws, to have a lot of unforced errors, 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: to miss those field goals, I mean, it just it 74 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: was not a cohesive effort by Tampa. They haven't been 75 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: cohesive all year offensively, and it's early and we're seeing 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: it with this Patriots team. These teams figure themselves out 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: as they go. But if you're a Buccaneers fan or 78 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: your dirt cutter or Jamis Winston, you have to be concerned. 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: Because I've watched all four of these Buccaneers games and uneven. 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: This is very similar to the to the rest of 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: them where they'll have little stretches where they pop and 82 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: you see all the different weapons and that gets you excited. 83 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: But for the most part. It's a lot of erratic 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: play and Stefan Gilmour and you know, Malcolm Butler certainly 85 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: deserves some credit for doing a good job on the 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: back end. It was definitely a good day for the secondary. 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: But sometimes you're right, you gotta make a play. And 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who had the worst quarter I would say 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: of his season in the first quarter with an overthrow 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: a couple other off target throws, was on fire for 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: a couple of quarters, second and third quarter. I mean 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: some of the prettiest throws you ever want to see. 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: And that's a quarterback making a play. And ultimately that 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: was enough to get them to win. And you know, 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: the Bucks are missing several key players, including Lavante David 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: and that can't be over the safety's Kawan Alexander. It 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: was a night I would have expected the Patriots to 98 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: score a lot more than nine. Yeah, and the Patriots 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: missing Gronk who who's a late scratch right before the game. 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I I thought. On the Patriots side of 101 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: the ball, the um Danny Amidola is as long as 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: he stays healthy, he's going to continue to be a 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: productive guy. Eight targets, eight receptions. Chris Hogan continues to 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: be a guy. I mean, the Patriots always gonna be 105 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: fine on offense. I want to see what happens next 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: after this week. I think they did catch the Bucks 107 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: in a weird place. They did not play well, and 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: they got a little they got a little lucky. Let's 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: be honest, it was let's be honest, they got a 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: little bit lucky that Nick Folk couldn't make a kick misses. 111 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: That's a big deal, absolutely, but it's not you can 112 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: just add those nine points and say, oh, they would 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: have won because the Patriots played this game from ahead. 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: For a while, I thought Belichick was gonna love this. 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: It was like the first ugly sort of game. They 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: really controlled the whole time. They did not play well 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: with the lead in the fourth quarter, but they would 118 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: have played everything differently if Folk had had hit those kicks. 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: But but you mentioned Amondola. I mean, I don't know 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: if you watched the Loose Cannon's Twitter account during this 121 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't track it too closely. It was hot, it 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: was on fire. I mean there was a lot going on. 123 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: There was a lot going on. I mean a lot, 124 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: A lot of slacks sent my way of looking just 125 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: like uh, run. You know she was she was hurt. 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean when Danny Evendola tripped that one time, I 127 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: don't know. Wow, what a special moment for the throne 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: of ease. And one one other thing that really jumped 129 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: out to me and shows you, you know what a 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: bad night the Bucks had on offense, Uh six seven. 131 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: The Patriots have a lead, they can line up and 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: kick a fifty two yard field goal or tempted two 133 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: yard field goal and they're kickers look good, uh and 134 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: hit what a fifty eight yard or a week before 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: they choose to punt and Tony Romo, who had another 136 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: excellent game by he had the best game of the night. Players, coaches, 137 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: announcers included another great game by Tony. He said, they 138 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: don't think they can score on them twice. Think about that. 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots evens that came into the game 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: on pace that the worst defense ever and the Bucks 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: were so poor that the Pats had enough their chest 142 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: supping to think we can beat these guys with our defense. 143 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: That's interesting and and to that point of the game 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: and made total sense. The Bucks almost proved him wrong. 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: You gotta give the Bucks some credit for three straight 146 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: long drives there in the fourth quarter, including one where 147 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: where folk Um missed it. I also give you know, 148 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the Belichick and Brady some credit that late in the 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: game they're going empty. No one's in the backfield when 150 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: it's clock killing time, it's third night, they're just throwing 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the ball anyways. They're not worried about incompletes. They're just 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: trusting Tom. I did I think, you know what, when 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: you got Tom Brady, you can do those things. Not 154 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: many teams skin um. All right, So that's it for 155 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: the Thursday night football game. We have so much more 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: to get to. So let's get uh connected with Mark 157 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Sessler and start the week five preview We run Yeah Baby, 158 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: do you Around the NFL Podcast knows where the hot 159 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: dogs are kept? Welcome back to another addition of the 160 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas and 161 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: I am joined by Rod Philda sub heroes, Mark celer 162 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: and Greg Rusal. What's up voice? Hey? Hey, hey, hi, 163 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: hi hi. It's that was catchy from Greg. That could 164 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: be a new kind stand in for we hear it again? 165 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, that's what I think of when I 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: think of Greg. Do you want to make that the 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: official like substitute. We missed Christopher Westling in countless ways, 168 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: and that's one of them. That's show. I yeah, I 169 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: mean Greg Mark was pounding the table for you a 170 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: little bit there. I was not. I'm just saying I 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: thought that fits Greg. You did a good job with it. 172 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: It's what it's a sound drop that makes me think 173 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: of sort of Greg esque things. Yeah, okay, I see 174 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying there. I'm reading between the lots there. 175 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: This is the UH Week five preview episode, sponsored of course, 176 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: and presented by Head and Shoulders. You heard at the 177 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: top of the show our recap of Patriots at Bucks, 178 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: But we got a lot more to get to. Although 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: this is well, I shouldn't say that. I was gonna 180 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: say this is the first week with teams on by, 181 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: but hurricane stuff led to the Dolphins and the Bucks 182 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: and two other teams having byes. Is that correct? They 183 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: were They were the only paying each other and so 184 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: it feels like a long time agolready. So those yeah, 185 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: those two teams had the week one by, but this 186 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: week the Falcons, Broncos, Saints and Redskins all on by, 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: so fewer games to get to. But that doesn't mean 188 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: that it's going to be a lesser effort, Greg, we are, 189 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: and it might be to the contrary. In fact, that 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: would be a strange reaction if we take the less game. Damn, 191 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: let's just it's not really care this week. And you 192 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: know what, just everybody want everybody like I want to 193 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: say at the top of the show, just to keep 194 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, keep I'm nextally keep an eye because you 195 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: can't but keep an ear out for Tam Posty. She's 196 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: very fired up with the Cam Newton controversy and general 197 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: like she you know, a lot of aggression toward us. 198 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was misguided a little bit before the show. 199 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: I want to see if it carries over when the 200 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: when the the old tapes a rolling. How you doing 201 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: doing good? Yeah? We you know that we are big 202 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: time supporters of you and all women in sports media. 203 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: It's making that clear. Yeah, no, it's cool. Don't don't 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: be a man about it and get all emotional. It 205 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: wasn't that you. It's like Cam Newton. Yeah, um, it's 206 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: way to make it about you. See, I see this 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: is what I was talking about. I just try to 208 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: talk Dereka and then I walk into these traps. I 209 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: got no way out checks out on some level, but 210 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: we'll let's for jump anyway. So we got the loose 211 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: canter behind the glass. We're happy to have her. Uh, 212 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: and we have a lot to get to. So why 213 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: don't we get into the games? Uh? No, need to 214 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: to mess around any further. Uh, and let's start, gentlemen. 215 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Am I forgetting anything? I feel like I'm forgetting something, 216 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: but I'm not. Do you want to play the Cam 217 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Newton thing? Now we're gon We're gonna get to that. 218 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we talk panthers. But let's start. 219 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: Let's get going. Oh, Mark had a a newborn daughter. Congratulate. Yeah, 220 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: Isabel Rose, that's right, thank you. Wow, you gotta shut 221 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: that thing down. Mark. Wait really, Now, I was just 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: trying to Oh my god. I was like, I wasn't 223 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: going to announce it on this show. I didn't think 224 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: it was, you know, big enough to make the rundown. 225 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: But Dan's shoved it into the lineup and by now 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: there will be an Isabel Rose Cessler Twitter handle out there. 227 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: It's about twenty four hours, so I'm excited about that. 228 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: Um Okay, yeah, let's get into the games and we'll 229 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: start with sneak one of my favorite games of the week, 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. The Buffalo Bills three and one, first place 231 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: alone in first place in the a f C East, 232 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and now they go on the road to face a 233 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: one in three teams. So you're thinking yourself, WHOA, things 234 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: are looking good for the Bills. Not only are they 235 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: in first place, they get to play one in three teams. 236 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. I'm gonna let you set 237 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: this up. Um, but I got fields on this. I 238 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: don't I'm not ready to count out Cincinnati, and I 239 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: feel like they have a really good chance this week. Well, 240 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I already feel like I'm getting in the way of 241 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: your love little game. If it's not, I don't think 242 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: it's too late for you to claim this game as 243 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: the one you watch on Sunday morning. I don't feel 244 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be you guys mind. I don't think 245 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition on Bill's Bengals the hot 246 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: game of the week. Well, I here's the thing. Watching 247 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: the Bills this week, but not only this week, every week. 248 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: One of the best coach teams in the NFL, and 249 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: everyone in Sean McVeigh I get it is a rock 250 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: star at this point in time in the NFL season. 251 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: But h McDermott's getting a little overlooked. I love what 252 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: he's done with this Bills team up till now. Well, 253 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to figure out how to score some 254 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: points in this game because the Bengals defense been solid 255 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: third in the league and points allowed. No Jordan Matthews. 256 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: You think, okay, yeah, he's a solid receiver, but he 257 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: is very valuable to them because they don't have any 258 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: other wide receivers. Ay Jones has been targeted seventeen times 259 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: this year with four catches. That is ridiculous. Tyrod Taylor's 260 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: already second to last in the NFL in attempt So 261 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: this is a team that just doesn't throw the ball much. 262 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: But you got a somewhat and Charles Clay is having 263 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: an okay season, but you really don't have much else 264 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to generate offense. It's fair 265 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: to look at what happened in that Falcons game, and 266 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know if we dug into this on 267 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Sunday night, but Matt Ryan had a pass that clearly 268 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: was forward motion. He was he was finishing it, the ball, 269 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: scored it out of his hands though at one point, 270 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: and they called it a fumble and the Bills took 271 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: it in for a touchdown. They would not have won 272 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: that game had they correctly called that. That said the 273 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: Bills to me, I like, how about this Eddie Yarborough guy. 274 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: They're getting guys like Micah Hyde involved. It's just Sean 275 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: McDermott doing what he did in Carolina, which is taking 276 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: role players and players that weren't necessarily stars and making 277 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: them incredibly productive on defense. This is a lot of 278 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: the same parts that Rex Ryan had had generated to 279 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: create a completely confused roster. These guys are playing and 280 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: they're talking about this defense is easier, simpler to learn, 281 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: and it shows. I think this is a tough game 282 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: for Buffalo. If they win, they'll definitely have my respect 283 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: and I'll be buying in a little bit. But I 284 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: have to say, um, I'm excited about this Bill Laser arrow. 285 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: They're up like seventy five yards a game since he's 286 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: taken over. They're they're scoring twenty eight points a game, 287 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: almost averaging there. Andy Dalton looks like a much different 288 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: quarterback now, and I think when you factor in their 289 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: defense with an improved Dalton, and there's still the remember 290 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Tyler efforts always hurt now, but there's still pieces in place. 291 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon hasn't really broken out yet. I think this 292 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: team could get hot, and I think I were gonna 293 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: see it this week. That's why I'm taking Cincinnati. I 294 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: like Cincinnati to win too. I don't feel that much 295 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: differently about the Bengals right now than I did before 296 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: the season. You look at their Football Outsiders numbers, which 297 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I like, the way they do their efficiency their nineteenth 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: in the league. That sounds about right. That's ahead of 299 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: teams like Dallas, New England, Oakland. I think they're a 300 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: fine team. I think they do get a win. I'm 301 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: going Bills, all right, let's move on next up. Oh 302 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: here it is Mark. One of these days, one of 303 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: these years, this will be a game that other people 304 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: or anybody is looking forward to. We're just not there yet. 305 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Just the it's just the truth of the matter, not 306 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: even close to be the New York Jets. You have 307 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: to go back to like nineteen eighties six for people 308 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to be plugged into this matchup. But the New York 309 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Jets are two and two, a surprise two and two, 310 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: and they traveled now to Cleveland to face the Browns, 311 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and uh, Mark, I want we've talked about the brown struggles. 312 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Let's zero in here and focus on Deshaun Kaiser. Um. 313 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have the supporting cast. I know 314 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues that he has no control of, 315 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: but looking past that, do you see a guy that 316 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: should be on the field right now and is growing 317 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: or is he going in the wrong direction in your 318 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: opinion right now? Well, I I don't see another option 319 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: on the roster, so let's start there. I think he's 320 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: the guy that you got to ride out this season 321 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: before you head into another critical draft. I'm not sure 322 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: what that even means at this point for the Cleveland Browns, 323 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: but look, Kaiser, I still think that you see moments 324 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: in games where he does things very well and it 325 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: gives you little moments of hope. But I can't assess 326 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: some of his play when this is a team that 327 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: we thought would run the ball with was with Isaiah Crowell. 328 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: The only player I can identify an offense that's of 329 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: any help to the Shaun Kaiser is Duke Johnson. There 330 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: either number one option on and what's rumbling? What's number two? 331 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Because because I and Kenny britt has he'll give you 332 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: two good plays a game and then he essentially takes 333 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the game off. And they are just 334 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: signing receivers off the street to fill in the blanks 335 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: at this point on the jet side of the ball. 336 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: And this is the point I was gonna make on Sunday, 337 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: so I'll make it now. So it's been I'm waiting. 338 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: It's been cooking, and I've been luxuriating in this team. 339 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: I've been based in Greg like a turkey getting ready 340 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: for my marinating. Um. Not a hot take, but just 341 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: more a general, you know, viewpoint on what's been going 342 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: on with this team. So they did unload everybody. They 343 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: got rid of everybody that had a name brand in 344 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: the off season, and that's what led to the talk 345 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: that they were going to be potentially historically bad. But 346 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: then you look at like then you take a look 347 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: at it. Sheldon Richardson, Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, David Harris, 348 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Nick Mangold, uh fits Magic Gino Smith. I'm sure I'm 349 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: missing people to um. All those guys that they lost, 350 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: they have not been either in the league or thrived 351 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: where they've went and then you look on the other 352 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: side of it. A boy, Big Mac has not done 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: a bad job here. Josh McCown has has been steady 354 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: for the most part. Cony Eally had four batted down 355 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: passes uh last week and the Jets win against Jacksonville 356 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: and has been active. Uh. Not a game changing guy, 357 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: but a nice addition for a guy that the Pats 358 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: gave up on and cost him a second round pick. Uh. 359 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: Terence Brooke move nine, moved, they moved back. Okay, then 360 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: move back, but you know it was not a successful 361 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: move by the Patriots. It was a bad job. Terrence 362 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Brooks a safety that they got in a trade for 363 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: Dexter McDougald before the season started. He was Player of 364 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: the Week last year with two picks. Jermaine Curse has 365 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: stepped in and been a nice part of their offense. 366 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: So Claiborne has been a great one year signing, and 367 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna leverage that into a big contract. I 368 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that big contract is gonna be worth 369 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: it whoever gives it to him, including maybe the Jets. 370 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: My point is is that the reason and not so 371 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: terrible is all those guys they purge haven't been weren't 372 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: really guys that could help them, and he's brought in 373 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: guys quietly that are doing a nice job, and that's 374 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: how you got the two and two. It's a great point. 375 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: And the way we talked about these two teams before 376 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: the season, it's obvious we thought, if anything, this would 377 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: be a body switch game where it would be the 378 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: Browns who would be two and two with a lot 379 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: of front this moves. It would have us buzzing and 380 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, young players playing above their heads, and that 381 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the that the Jets would be this team. It's impossible 382 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: to watch. You go watch every single team in the league. 383 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns right now are the one club that 384 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: does not look like they are organized like a professional 385 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: football team. They are hard to watch on both sides 386 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: of the ball. It's not fair to the fans. They 387 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing to hold onto. They are thirty in the 388 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: league in offensete and defense and thirtie and special teams 389 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: on football, so it's like there's nothing to just grab 390 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: ahold of and feel like, okay, that's what we have alright. 391 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: Moving on. Okay, so let's talk about the Panthers. The 392 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Browns will win. It's just that's the the karma of things. 393 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: I don't gotta win a game. I do not, and 394 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: that's why I watching up the Jets were moving trying 395 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: to chin anything. You have that whole segment to lock 396 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: a team up, I did it my own way. I 397 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: locked my own way. All right. Before we get into 398 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Panthers lines, let's address Cam Newton first. I'm sure you 399 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: heard of it. In case you didn't, Uh, here's what 400 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: the comment that Cam made during and otherwise mundane mid 401 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: season press conference. Uh, let's listen to it. You know, 402 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: you take a lot of pride in seeing your receivers 403 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: playing well. Devin Bunches has seemed to really embrace the 404 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: physicality of his routes and and making getting those extra 405 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: yards because that give you a little bit of an 406 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: enjoyment to see him kind of trust seeking people out there. 407 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: It's funny to hear female talk about routes like I can't. 408 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: All right, So that's what he said, I can't. Here's 409 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the thing that I'm the most surprised about. And we 410 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit before the show, like 411 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: in a news conference. There's no adrenaline, there's no reason 412 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: why you would there's no excuse for that type of 413 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: comment no matter what's going on with you. But the 414 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: fact that like it showed a basic lack of common sense, 415 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: like to to let that slip out of your mouth. 416 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: That just showed to me and West and I had 417 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: been kind of uh talked about Cam and West famously 418 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: is called Cam Newton preening shimo. And I know now 419 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are saying, well, there's 420 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: a you should separate Cam from the past and the 421 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: people that have criticized him the past from this incident 422 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: where he deserves to be criticized. In my opinion, Cam, 423 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: this has always been part of the Cam Newton experience, 424 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: which is he could be a knucklehead sometimes and sometimes 425 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: he does things I never let him. I I wasn't 426 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: one of the people that let him off the hook 427 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl fifty press conference. I know a 428 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: lot of people did, uh some of his other behavior 429 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: throughout the years. This to me is just a continuation 430 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: of what's been an issue with Cam Newton and and 431 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: some of his behavior. That's just my take. You know you, 432 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: I will never forget back in as a rabid young 433 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: sports fan when the Lisa Olsen incident occurred. She was 434 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: a Boston Herald writer who went into the Patriots locker 435 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: room covering the Patriots and was harassed by Patriots players 436 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: and wound up suing the team. And they talked about 437 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: that as they call a watershed moment for sports writers 438 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: in general, for females covering sports, that we had crossed 439 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: the rubuts for that picular Patriots ownership too, which handled 440 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: it so poorly, they handled terribly the league. The league 441 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: did what they could at that point. They did not 442 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: necessarily handle a great either. Twenty seven years later, nothing's changed, 443 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: nothing's changed. Well, I think something's have changed in that 444 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: this second that Cam Newton makes a comment like this, 445 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: he pays for it. And and that's the thing where look, 446 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: he lost a sponsorship over it. He's getting he's paying 447 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: for he's paying a price for it, like he's learning 448 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: a quick lesson. I think the difference now, maybe between 449 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: and then, is that sort of thing will happen. Yeah. 450 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: The one thing I'd say is that I think people 451 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: now are trained to know that you must respond in 452 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: a certain way to that incident, where before it was 453 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: not the same world. And I wonder how many people 454 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: quietly agree with Cam Newton, whether or not they say 455 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: something verbally. It's one of the things that I've learned. Um, 456 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: having worked at the NFL for seven years and having 457 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: worked with a lot of like talented women. Uh, our 458 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: girl Erica behind the Glass is one of them, Colleen lindsay, 459 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: all these different people we've worked with over the years, 460 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: when you get close enough to them, uh, and and 461 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: you get an up close view of that women that 462 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: work in the sports industry have to deal with from 463 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: sexist men and people that just don't view at the 464 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: end of the day, that that a woman should be 465 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: asking a question about routes. Like the fact that I 466 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: sent out some tweets yesterday, um, just you know, going 467 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: after cam on it like a lot of people did. 468 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: And then there were people coming out of the woodwork, 469 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: like you know, saying that you know, oh yeah, you're 470 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: too sensitive, blah blah blah. Like it's a really, it's 471 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: out there, it's still there. It's greg's right, it's still 472 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: something where it's still there and it's somehow more accepted 473 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: out there than than racial I mean, it's it's it's different. 474 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're fired up about it. Eric Erica, you 475 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: came in here with a lot of comments comments like 476 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: it certainly rubbed you the wrong way, right that like 477 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: seeing someone in your industry talk like that, it's just 478 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: so calm that that's why it's so frustrating is that 479 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: we as as female in any industry and especially sports, 480 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, and in any situation, that this is stuff 481 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: that we deal with all the time, that someone went 482 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: on a public platform can stand up there and be like, oh, 483 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: it's funny to hear you talk about routes and it's 484 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: like you've had a few good games, but you've had 485 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: a ton of bad ones to cam like, maybe you 486 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: should focus on your routes, like just because someone else 487 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: has their research done, and it just it just it 488 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: blows my mind that it happens so often, and that's 489 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: why it's so upsetting. The reporter, by the way, it 490 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: was Jordan and Rodrigue, who is like a author weekly 491 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: of tape study pieces that we we looked at David 492 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Eally and I were looking at one among the panthers, 493 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: like by the way that she knows exactly what she's 494 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: talking about. So enough with this, and here's the good news, 495 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: like Greg said, there is the progress is that there 496 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: is an instant outcry when someone is an idiot like this, 497 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: I got a statement to read this one all the 498 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: way to the yogurt industry, folks, and in corp, let's 499 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: get some missive music. We are shocked and disheartened at 500 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: the behavior and comments of Cam Newton towards Jordan Rodrigue, 501 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: which we perceive is sexist and disparaging to all women. 502 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: Is entirely inconsistent with our commitment to fostering equality and 503 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: inclusion in every workplace. It's simply not okay to be 504 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: little anyone based on gender, and we have shared our 505 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: concerns with Cam and will no longer work with him. 506 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: So Cam loses his yogurt sponsorship, which is a huge deal. 507 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: By that, that's a big deal. There's not only is 508 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: that a lot of money, but not many NFL players 509 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: crossover and that's like the goal. Like that's part of 510 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: the reason why Cam, who is beloved for his work 511 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: with kids, and kids love him and he has a 512 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: show on Nickelodeon, Like that's part of the reason he 513 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: does stuff like that is to get, you know, to 514 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: have that crossover appeal. And he just got bang for 515 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: it in a big He killed himself with this and 516 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna stick with him the rest of his career, 517 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, it's hard to feel sorry for him. Okay, 518 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's move on now and talk about the games. 519 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: So the Panthers three and one tied first in the 520 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: NFC South and how they traveled to Detroit to face 521 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: the lines. Also three and one coming off that really 522 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: nice uh win over the Vikings where they got the 523 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: they got to stop they needed at the end of 524 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: the game. Um, Greg, your thoughts on this matchup? Which 525 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: team has impressed you more when you've been studying the 526 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: tape this season? The Panthers have impressed me more. I 527 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: I like both of these teams, and Lions fans think 528 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: we're not giving them enough credit. They've been there three 529 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: and one, They're one of many teams have been close 530 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: in almost every game. But the difference is I think 531 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: the Panthers can be really good on both sides of 532 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: the ball. The Lions, I think Greg Robinson is going 533 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: to cost them a win one of these weeks. And 534 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: this is a week where it makes sense You're going 535 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: up against Julius Peppers and Mario Addison and Kawan Short 536 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: who are all playing well, the Panthers offense to me, 537 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: hasn't looked as bad and Cam Newton as their reputation 538 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: throughout the year. I think they're kind of slowly getting 539 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: it together, whereas the Lions, like like last week, like 540 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: their offense has not looked great. I would say in 541 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: back to back weeks, it's a little more conservative. You'd 542 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: like to see Matthew Stafford go down the field a 543 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: little bit more than he has been. I'm with you. 544 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought as much as Greg Robinson, Ricky 545 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: Wagner was victimized last week by the by the Vikings, 546 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: they almost lost that game. It's it's a different type 547 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: of Lions offense to some degree. I mean a mirab 548 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: Dullah I think the positive he's running the ball well, 549 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: he's coming nearly crossed that hundred yards threshold, which I 550 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: think they have not done in fifty six straight games, 551 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: which is outrageous. The next team I think is the 552 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: Ravens a fifty fifteen or something. But you're watching Matthew 553 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Stafford last week, and I get it because it's against 554 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: the Vikings defense, but checking down into the run, I 555 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: mean often like they are running the ball higher percentage 556 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: than they have they're almost like to the percentage of 557 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: last year's Cowboys they were getting. They're crawling into that 558 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: space to some degree. And the Lions, to your point, 559 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: mark like Abdulla has been a big part. He's not 560 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: having a big time season, but he's coming along. They've 561 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: ranked I think thirty second something like that the last 562 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: three seasons running in the football. And you've gotta have 563 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: some type of balance. So if Abdulla can stay healthy, 564 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: that gives him that balance. And then on the other 565 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: side of the ball, they are doing a great job, 566 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is sustainable. So like 567 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: I put them, I should have had them lower, And 568 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking, I had like eighteen than our 569 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: little power pole thing, it definitely should have better position. 570 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: I should have had him in a better position, probably 571 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: in the ten to twelve range if I could do 572 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: it again, But I can't. That's gone. You gotta give 573 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: up the ghost. But I can tell you the fact 574 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: that they've been so opportunistic. They have a plus nine 575 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: turnover differential, and they have forty seven points off turnovers, 576 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: which is tied for the most in the league. Um 577 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: and almost half their points have come off turnovers. This season. 578 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: The question is are they going to regress. Is that's 579 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: something that can keep up. I don't know if they can. 580 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: That's my only concern there. Yeah, they they're having people 581 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: emerge though. Glover Quinn has kind of been a forgotten 582 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: guy on that defense, but is maybe the key to 583 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: it in the in the back end has been playing well. 584 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Zette, who I talked about early in the season, 585 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: continues to perform. So they are more of a balanced 586 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: team and and they could run the ball, unlike the 587 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Panthers who want to be a running team. And it 588 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: was maybe slowly coming around, but they really haven't been 589 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: a running team yet. And Christian McCaffrey especially not really 590 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: been a good running back so far. He's been a 591 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: good player in the passing game, but he's under three 592 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: yards per carry, Like I don't they're starting almost to 593 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: reduce his role in the running game, which is interesting. Yeah, 594 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: he's almost extremely passed from on the on the on 595 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers side. To Jordan's point, Devin Funcs, who I 596 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: think I wrote a and making the Leap type piece 597 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: about it during one lazy summer day years ago, thinking 598 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna finally like had this monster season and 599 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: it never materials. He's starting to be used more and 600 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: more each week, and he's only twenty three years old. 601 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: It feels like he's been in the legal while only 602 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: twenty three years they were counting on this before. This 603 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: is good that they're getting a good game. If you 604 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: win this, Lions, you'll get plenty of lo I always 605 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm always surprised by how often the Making the Leap 606 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: series comes up on this podcast. And but now I 607 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: think about it, when you take a step back, it's 608 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: like if you wrote a Making the Peace Leap about 609 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: Devin Funches two or three years ago, and then he come, 610 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: he breaks out on a somewhat on some way validates 611 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: your piece, even though you kind of didn't get it right. 612 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: You could say like, I didn't know was in him 613 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: this whole time. So I think that's why it comes 614 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: up to a very self serving series if you wanted 615 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: it to, and then you just simply, you know, if 616 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to magnify the ones that went completely 617 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: south off the Let's move on to San Francisco. Forty 618 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: niners winless uh and three straight narrow losses. UH. They 619 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: now traveled to Indianapolis and they get the Colts, who uh, 620 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, they beat Cleveland at home a week three. 621 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: In week four, things are looking okay against Seattle on 622 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: the road. They're looking very good for the Cults at halftime, 623 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: and then the wheels came off and they lost forty 624 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: six eighteen. Uh. Andrew Luck is practicing in a limited capacity, 625 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: but he it doesn't sound like he's anywhere close to 626 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: coming back yet. So it's more Jake Brisket, h mark 627 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this game. We don't have to dig 628 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: into deep here. Let's be honest. It's a bit of 629 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: a strange game. I I think it's good for the 630 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Cults that when they do get Andrew Luck back that 631 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: this week they're getting it. Sounds like Ryan Kelly their 632 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: center back, and you're starting to see these pieces come 633 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: into place. My question, we're the Titans, Jaguars and Bengals 634 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: up after this week? Will it be too little too 635 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: late when they finally do get Luck. I like this 636 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: forty Niners to schedule though, Titans, Jaguars, Bengals. Well, if 637 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: you if you drop two of those, that's your division, right. 638 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: This is sort of a must win is I think 639 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: they have to and I think it's a game they 640 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: can win. But the thing about the forty Niners, I 641 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: know they're are in four and if you don't want 642 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: to watch them at all, you can just dismiss them entirely. 643 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: But I like what's happening with their defense in areas 644 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: they get pressure and Brian Hoyer is holding that team 645 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: back with his mistakes. But I do believe that the 646 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: forty Niners are gonna win one or two games with 647 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: their defense. Solomon Thomas has his first this would be it, 648 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: and I just think it's kind of a It's a 649 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: weird game for the Colts, and if they lose this one, 650 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: their season is in deep trouble. Frank Gore needs I think, 651 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: just three or four yards to pass Eric Dickerson four 652 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: number seven Gorbo. Yeah. The Niners reporters, who all clearly 653 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: love Frank Gore, we're just loving writing big features about him, 654 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, getting Jim Harbaugh to to speak, I mean, 655 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: you listen to Gore talk and he can break down 656 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: the Colts Cole, I mean, the forty Niners team right 657 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: now better than anyone. And I got it talking to him, 658 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: like no one loves football more than Gore, Like he 659 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: just seems like he's obsessed with the game, and he's 660 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: still that way. The last three losses have been by 661 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: a total of eight points. But if they don't win 662 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: this game, I'm I'm just looking to the schedule at 663 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: what well they're done. But I'm just talking about let's 664 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: get some wins. Boys at Washington home to Dallas at 665 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: Philadelphia to close out their first half schedule. They might 666 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: go into the second half. We're seeing the limits of 667 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. I mean, Kyle Shanahan can help you to 668 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: a point, and he is. But Aldrick Robinson still their 669 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: number two receiver and Brian hoyerre still their quarterback. What's 670 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: the limits of their offensive rosters. That's what I mean. 671 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's all I mean. Let's move 672 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: on the Tennessee tit tuns uh to and to sit down, 673 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: be humble after a harrowing loss in Houston. I mean, 674 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: I feel like harrow wing is a good way to 675 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: put that. When the a fifty burger dropped on you, 676 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: damn it, nearly a sixty burger. Now they travel to 677 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: Miami to face the Dolphins, who are a mess. Let's 678 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: face it. So if you're the Titans, and you're looking 679 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: your wounds after that, and your quarterback has a bum 680 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: hamstring and you're hoping that he's gonna be able to 681 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: play and be effective. You've got a team that's either 682 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: this is either a great matchup to get the Dolphins 683 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: out because they've been playing so poorly the last two weeks, 684 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: or you look at it where the Dolphins greg are 685 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: not as bad as they have indicated these last two weeks, 686 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: and and you could be in trouble if you're Tennessee. Well, 687 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: they haven't been home for more than a month. So 688 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: if you're a Dolphins fan that wants to pin your 689 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: hopes on some sort of turnaround, and you have the 690 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: one in four start last year, and you have the 691 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: fact that they literally, I think I've only been home 692 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of days in five or six weeks. 693 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: So maybe that stabilizes things. And maybe when you play 694 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: the Titans, even if Marcus Mariota is out there and 695 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: we're not sure yet whether he can play on his hamstring, 696 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: he's not going to be moving and they've they've basically 697 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: said that he would have to play from the pocket, 698 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: and movement has been a huge part of their offense 699 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: and his really effectiveness this year. He struggled to start 700 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: last week and Matt Castle. If you want to see 701 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: the worst twenty five minutes of the game of the 702 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: season by any quarterback, that was Matt Castle. That's tough 703 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: for you to say that's your guy. I mean, this 704 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: is two of my Castle was one. West always would 705 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: just say it was my guy. Uh, well, I'm just 706 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: playing these these are two. These are two quarterbacks. At 707 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: the very bottom, Cutler's found a quarterback he's better than Well, 708 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: it's hard right now, Cudler, I mean, honestly, in terms 709 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: of a downfield passing game, has really only been better 710 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: than Joe Flacco. Color has been astonishingly bad. It's it's 711 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: you made the point that he looked up at that 712 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: announcing booth that he would have been a part of 713 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: in London, probably thinking would that have been an easier 714 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: situation than this. He's answering questions about while he's out 715 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: wide on a wildcat play, looking like he's taken a 716 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: nap standing up. It's not a good situation though they've 717 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: barely been on the field. If ever, there's a matchup 718 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: to get right though, this is it that the Titans. 719 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Who U you know you? If I was gonna say, 720 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: if you wanted to use that other insulting nickname, the 721 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: secondary and their defense would be a reason to get 722 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: after them. Their thirty feet in the league and in 723 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: points allowed. Their cornerbacks were among the worst in the 724 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: league last year. Dorry Jackson come back to us. They 725 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: were they replaced, They replaced them, and it's Lashawn Sims 726 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: and McCain and Jackson. It's like this. If the Dolphins 727 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: can't throw on this team, they can't throw on it. 728 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: I think Jay gets right this week, healthy type of game, 729 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: and then suddenly the Dolphins are two and two and 730 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: it's like nothing ever happened. That's your nightmare. That's definitely 731 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: not my nightmare. Well I'm not. I'm not worried about 732 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Put it that way. I seem like sneaky 733 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: sort of sneaky heat between you and handsome Hank every 734 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: time you beat in the hallways. Well your friends, so 735 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: you know you're not enemies. It's always a little hot 736 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: during football seasons. Dolphins. Dolphins fans and Jets fans. They 737 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: don't just they don't like each other. That's it, right 738 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: that you should know this you're from the region. I mean, 739 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: I can get along with with Dave Damnak, a Steelers fan. Yeah, 740 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: but he simply doesn't even respect the rivalry. So you 741 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, when's the last how am 742 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: I supposed? How am I supposed to take that? Acting 743 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: like your two and two jets are going to take 744 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: the A f C s. Please definitely not definitely not. 745 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: Um listen, don't don't lure me into your spider web. 746 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, Um. By the way, anybody missed Chris Burman 747 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: when you said castle for some reason? I got it. 748 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: I got like, if Chris Burnman is here, when you 749 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: brought out castle back, you'd go handrink back and castles 750 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: made of sand fall into the sea eventually back after that, 751 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: if I missed him, you filled that need right there, 752 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: and then I'll not think about him again. He's it's 753 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: just weird. He is gone for the first time in 754 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: our lifetime. That's a nobody's talking about it, right he was. 755 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: He was somehow overshadowed by Tom Petty this week. I 756 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: don't understand what do you mean? You know, the absence 757 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: of chrisp Them in our lives was you know, continually 758 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: overshadowed by something on a weekly So maybe next week 759 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: Chris burn moving. I like the guy. I don't don't 760 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: know where I'm going with job by the Titans. This 761 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: have bad castle in this position, by the way about yeah, 762 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: and also Tytoons fans, if you go and beat Jay 763 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: Cutler on the road, stay out of my inventions. You 764 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: got a big win. You just have fifty seven dropped on. 765 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: He's gonna take a few weeks now. For me, even 766 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: that game was the greatest thing that's ever happened to 767 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: you on our show. You liked that they're back in 768 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: their position. They are so back in the old Juicers doghouse, 769 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: and I love it. I love that we're like thirty 770 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: five minutes into the show and have gone over three 771 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: low watted games. Let's move on the Los Angeles chart 772 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: you how about this, Let's let's put turn the wattage up, 773 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, and four Chargers travel to the meadow ends 774 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: to face the Owen four Giants. Somebody's got to win 775 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: this game, right Mark, Well, I mean it could. It 776 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: could end in a tie as zero zero tie. I 777 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: this is a depressing game. It's uh. I'm one of 778 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: four analysts to pick the Giants to go the Super Bowl. 779 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: But I'm the only one, unfortunately to pick the Uns 780 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: and the Chargers after this week and now in this 781 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: room as well. And I don't know. I mean for me, 782 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers to me have looked desperate on offense. They 783 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent, but there it's not a 784 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: cohesive unit. I thought that the moment for them this 785 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: season when Philip Rivers the mouthpiece comes out and he's 786 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: just jawling at the O. C. Wizzen hunt at the sideline. 787 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: He's super upset, and he should be. It's been the 788 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: most frustrating season you could ever have scripted for Philip Rivers, 789 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: who did his best too. He's got the Rivers Mobile 790 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: going up and down the West Coast and it's gas 791 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: mileage amounting to nothing so far. That they missed Mike's here, 792 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they missed Mike momoy or I don't know 793 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: if it's just a coincidence because Ken Wizzen was there 794 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: last year and that was one of the reasons I 795 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: like this Chargers offense. I thought, Okay, there's continuity, but 796 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy is coming out the other end. I mean 797 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: Chargers fans the one of that stuck with them moving 798 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: from San Diego to l A. Have to be thinking 799 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: like maybe that wasn't so bad at least are off 800 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: it was fun to watch. Now you're right, there's a 801 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: lack of rhythm, a lot of miscommunication, a lot of 802 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: not being on the same page. Um, yeah, I forgot 803 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. I mean it's probably it is. 804 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: I have a personal question that do you ever get 805 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: on the phone with with Charlie cast Early and add 806 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: Kinka Wala and Judy Batista whoever Charlie did. I'm actually 807 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: just making up the names who actually like, do you 808 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: guys just like talk about It's not it's not reached 809 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: phone level. We have an online a forum, a support 810 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: forum for you know, predictions that are beyond horrible that 811 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: we're not the people have not stopp reminding the apologies 812 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: to the other you know ladies. Yeah, I think you 813 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: put two people into that. Maybe I did not make 814 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 1: this just they're kind of they're in that like they're women. 815 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: Well they're in that. You know, Greg, grab right into 816 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: that trap you have. You have painted yourself into a 817 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: tough corner. This uh, this is the week for Joey Bosa. 818 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: Moving on to UH to get right. He's been very 819 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: Is that how you you save yourself America? You just 820 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: don't address it. Change the subject, all right, I'll try that. 821 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: I'll try that. I have no need to because I 822 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: believe I'm in good standing with Erica. Let's move on. 823 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals are two and two and UH kind 824 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: of boring and they're just another team, but some people 825 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: support them, and we talked about every game. So we 826 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: talked about the Cardinals traveling to Philadelphia. I mean, they've 827 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: got a legend, you know, if nothing else. Larry Fitzgerald 828 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: put a couple more memorable moments into his cand Larry, 829 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: how about Larry Legend? At the d Backs Rockies UH 830 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: one game playoff yesterday, they cut to him. It was 831 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: like the seventh inning, it was eight seven. Fitzgerald all 832 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,959 Speaker 1: the way in. UH actually had the nerves. He looked 833 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: like he had fan anxiety. He's just like my favorite player. 834 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: Probably the last twenty years never changed, Bunny who won 835 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: that baseball Snakes? The Snakes advanced to the NL. I 836 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: don't need them going. Finally, one of the great rival 837 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: reasons sport, Diamondbacks Rockies reunited again. UM, all right, here 838 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: we go. Let's talk about uh this game. Uh. We'll 839 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: start with you on this one, Greg, the Eagles, Um, 840 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: there's they're feisty. You're in on the Eagles, aren't you. 841 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: I I am in there are my preseason prediction. One 842 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: of the only things that that are turning out well 843 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: so far to win this division. And one of the 844 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: reasons why it is because it's because they're so good upfront. 845 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: I think that they're tackles right now. And it really 846 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: struck me playing the Chargers. When you can shut down 847 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: Ingram and Bosa for the most part, and you're getting 848 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: big time space in the running game, you're doing something right. 849 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: These are This is one of the best offensive lines 850 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: in the league, and they push you around on both 851 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. I think that's gonna be a 852 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: tough spot here for the car I'm with you. I 853 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: think we all saw what La Gary blunted, and that 854 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: feels like if that can continue, this is an incredibly 855 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: balanced offense. It takes a lot of heat off Carson Wentz, 856 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback that was asked to do so much last year. 857 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz has been a big security blanket for him 858 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: and here's my issue though with the Cardinals. I really 859 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: don't see I actually think that Carson Palmer has been 860 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: enjoyable to watch this season. You talked about Larry Fitzgerald. 861 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: He is not gonna last this season with the way 862 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: he's getting hit. That game against the Niners, and this 863 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: is what I was talking to before the Niners. Yet 864 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 1: they didn't win the game, and you people probably didn't 865 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: even watch the thing they battered him. They have so 866 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: many issues along their offensive line. That's the wrong quarterback 867 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: to be sitting back there. He is as immobile as 868 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: anyone else out there. To The Cardinals will be to 869 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: watch if they lose Palmer and David Johnson. They're they're 870 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: a bad two and two. They're very lucky to be 871 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: two and two. I think they're probably one of the 872 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: worst five or six teams in the league right now. 873 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: And then they're going up against a guy and Carson 874 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: Wentz that I'm a little surprised, and maybe it's just 875 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: they haven't been in national games that he doesn't get 876 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: a little more love from the average fan. Not that 877 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: he's there yet as some great quarterback. I don't know 878 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: if he's gonna get there. They need to have that 879 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: big moment. When that people were like, that's what we 880 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: remember about Carson, because I don't know if he's gonna 881 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: get there. He's a little slow in the decision making accuracy. 882 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of a young Dante Culpepper 883 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: or a young Cam or young Ben Roethlisberger. The just 884 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: the athleticism in the place he makes. He's just so 885 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: much fun to watch, and I think this is a 886 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: matchup where he's going to be especially fun to watch 887 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: at home. They're getting a little momentum. You got the tackles. 888 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are week Timmy Journ again blowing up the spot. 889 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm locking it up. Snuck up on 890 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: me there like it. I like you he was. He 891 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: was heating up. You need a big lock up, Greg. 892 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: You're struggling badly this year. UM one and three. I believe, 893 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: So this is I feel like this safe I went. 894 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: I think I've gotten I've gotten underdogs four straight weeks, 895 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: and so that's that hasn't worked. Eagles win this by 896 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: ten plus. And let's keep an eye on the Carson Wentz. 897 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: He he was even better through four games in his 898 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: rookie year and then the wheels kind of came up 899 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: from the Eagles who lost eight of their last twelve 900 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: and and went struggled. But we'll see this is will 901 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: he make those gains and go to the next level. 902 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 1: This is a better offense around him, it's more balanced, 903 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: it's got it's built to last. He's doing less. They're 904 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: asking him to do less, which is a good thing. Yes, 905 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: moving on the Jacksonville's Yeah, you ares are two and 906 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: to after I mean, did you guys watch that Jets game. Yes, 907 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars had no business losing that game once they McCown 908 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: had a couple of turnovers. The game was basically handed 909 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville on a platter. But again, no one's you know, 910 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: I pick on the Titans, but um, the Jaguars are 911 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: are even worse. Like, you can't be taken seriously as 912 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: a team until you find out a way to win 913 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: those type of games, and they did not. So now 914 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: they're two and two, and now they got the Steelers. 915 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: Uh they're on the road against the Steelers and uh, Greg, 916 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: excuse me, Mark, you have a Steelers team that looked 917 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: like they might have been getting on track against Baltimore 918 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: last week on the road I feel like maybe that 919 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: explosion on offense is coming. I think it is because 920 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: Levi on Bell looked great for moments of that Baltimore game. 921 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: And I really love Pittsburgh's defense. We've talked about them before, 922 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: but again, you were playing Flacco and a Ravens offense. 923 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: That's a tough It's not exactly hard. It's hard to 924 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: measure what you are if you're thriving against them. But 925 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Schiziar is having an incredible season. You know, West 926 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: and I were tweeting just about this guy Mike Hilton 927 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: who picked off Flacco as well off a tip pass. 928 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: They had to have so much athleticism on that defense 929 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: that I think that they everyone talks about Jacksonville's defense Pittsburgh. 930 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it's the way he's got a better situation 931 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: going on. I like the James Conner that they're able 932 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: to spell Levy on Bell with James Connery has looked 933 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: actually pretty good, and it's just about I think the 934 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: passing game is the thing that we're still waiting for 935 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: the top to come off with Big Ben in the past, 936 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: he keeps missing, he keeps missing deep. But they're kind 937 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: of back to their late season offense, which was just 938 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 1: run it through Levy on Bell and they are more bounced. 939 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: It's a little tough to get a field. They are 940 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: dominating teams, but you tweeted about it yesterday. They haven't 941 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: played a quarterback. That's remote. I mean, if the Patriots 942 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: had played this group of Tomato cans, their defense would 943 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: not be the worst in the league. That the Steelers 944 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: have not played anyone. But hey, guess what, it's continuing 945 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: this week, so they should be fine on the Steelers 946 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: side as well. With specifically they're passing game, because I 947 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: think nobody was really worried about Levy on Bell even 948 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: though he wasn't having Levy on Bell games, and then 949 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: he had one last week. Roethlisberger's issues going down field, 950 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: so you addressed it. They're greg four of twenty, no touchdowns, 951 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: one interception, thirty four point two pass rating U passes 952 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: of twenty plus air yards this season, according to NFL research. 953 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: Uh that same metric. Last year, those same uh you 954 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: know details, he had fourteen touchdowns and a one thirteen 955 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: point four passer rating. So we'll see there have been 956 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: drops there. It's not all on him. It's not like 957 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: they're that's getting to my point. So it's either it's 958 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: either an issue of um bad luck, um of rust 959 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: with Martavis Bryan, who's their primary deep band uh, or 960 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: it could be a small sample size and it's like 961 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: just let's wait this at a little bit. Or it 962 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: could be the other thing, which is Big Ben's getting old. 963 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: It's not the same guy. Nam. I don't think he's 964 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: played as well since the start of last season then 965 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm used to, so maybe that's gonna change back. But 966 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,959 Speaker 1: I think that it's been a fairly long sample size 967 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: and they're starting to play to it, which is interesting. 968 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: They ran the ball on third and eight in a 969 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: key spot last week, which I really was surprised to 970 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: see the Steelers do that, and I think it's because 971 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: they trust their defense now. I mean, Cameron Award to me, 972 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: has been one of the best defenders in the league, 973 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: and they trust Levy on Bell and uh. That's that's 974 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: like with how they're built old school Steelers and what 975 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: Greg mentioned, Deshaun Kaiser, case Keenum, Mike Lennon, Joe Flacco 976 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: who's not Joe Flacco of old, and Blake Bortles. That's 977 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: the first five quarters they have totally dominated and that's 978 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: what you need to as fans like you can't judge 979 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: the schedule. I'm not. I'm just saying you have not 980 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: faced a murderers row of something and Jaguars, if you 981 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: want to show us something, go go show it this week. 982 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: I've heard some Jaguars fans saying like we've got a 983 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: top five defense and we're waiting, like Jalen Ramsey, I, 984 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: if I'm a Jaguars fan, I'm very worried about a 985 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles blood bath. Good past defense, you're probably I 986 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: mean Bordles has had a couple of moments, of course, 987 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: the one game in London, which I'm gonna mark down 988 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: as an outlier. This guy, when he misses passes, I've 989 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: never seen a guy who's incomplete passes are more errant 990 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: than Blake Bortles. He's a special kind of bad and 991 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come out big time at hines Field. 992 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of a special kind of bad, I do want 993 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: to correct since you, since you called me out for it, 994 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: Loose Cannon Web the Giant, the predictions were incorrect. You 995 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: know that I named the wrong people. Ike Taylor, former Steeler, 996 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: he had the Giants in the Super Bowl and Maurice 997 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: Jones Drew also had the Giants in the Super Bowl. 998 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: So those are two man those know mind Barry and 999 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: the two of them will appreciate you, you know, you know, 1000 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: cycling back to call them out on a podcast that 1001 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: has listened to in about thirty eight countries. Moving on 1002 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: more than that, we're in like Turks and Caicos were everywhere. 1003 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: Eight felt felt pretty good, though I think it's closer 1004 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: to thirty nine. How many countries now, I mean, at 1005 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: least for having a down at some point. If you 1006 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: scroll through those lists, it goes on forever. I think 1007 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: it's over. It's in the hundreds one million countries strong 1008 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast. How about that? I don't know 1009 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: if there were hundreds of countries speaking. I'm gonna look 1010 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: this up while you can go, Yeah, Google, how many 1011 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: funny to hear you guys talk about countries? All right? 1012 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: You know what? All right, here's the here's we're openly 1013 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: academically dumb. We we've always maintained that we're not. There's 1014 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: no pride. There hundred and nine countries. So I was right, 1015 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: they're not hundreds and hundreds. There's a hundred I think 1016 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: we've been heard in over a hundred territories. How much 1017 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: time do we have left on the show. Enough enough, 1018 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk the Seahawks at the Rams. The 1019 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks seem to get healthy against the Colts in primetime, 1020 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: as we all expected them to. It just took them, 1021 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: uh two quarters to get the engine ravving. But when 1022 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 1: it did, it was at eighteen laugher. And now they 1023 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: faced the team that's been the biggest surprise in the 1024 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: league this year. I think the Rams the they are 1025 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: the team of a t L. And if some people 1026 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: talk about they used to say the s I curse, 1027 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: and then they said the Madden curse, and that all 1028 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: feels past it now Now I think the real buzzy 1029 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: thing is the team of a t L curse. So 1030 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna see right away here, Greg, if the Rams 1031 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: could handle the pressure of being the team of a 1032 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: t that's a that's a silly theory because the first 1033 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: team of a t L had a terrific season, the 1034 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. You could cite those things with the Madden 1035 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: curse in the S but that's like the first example 1036 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: of it. So teams started five and oh and then 1037 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: literally had a nuclear pa since that first season not 1038 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: as great. You know, the Cardinals were rolling along till 1039 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 1: that old torn a c l by Carson Paul Marks 1040 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: not either. The two thousand six Vikings had a nuclear 1041 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: bomb dropped on their facility just minutes after we anoint them. 1042 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: That was that was problematic, as is this matchup buried 1043 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: in the news a little bit A little bit. First, see, 1044 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't just look at this Rams team 1045 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: and think they're a juggernaut. Each one of these games 1046 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: have been tight, and this is a tough matchup, and 1047 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: it's the one matchup the one coach in the NFL 1048 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: that is thrilled to see Sean McVeigh on the other 1049 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: sideline instead of Jeff Fisher. Pete Carroll couldn't beat Jeff 1050 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: Fisher for three straight years, five out of six times 1051 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher took out Pete Carroll in the Seahawks. So 1052 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: this is a matchup. Obviously, these teams are totally different, 1053 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: but I do think it's a big NFC West game, 1054 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: and if the Rams can win it, it's like you 1055 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: get some separation. I think Seattle comes down here knowing 1056 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: that knowing this is a big game that they want 1057 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 1: to stay right there and not dig a big hole 1058 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: in the division. Well, we just did our NFL network 1059 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: here where we talked about two and two teams that 1060 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: we are on board with that we trust to bounce 1061 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: back and keep going. And I picked Seattle. But if 1062 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: you lose to this game, I don't know what you 1063 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: hang your head on if you're the Seahawks, because this 1064 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: is the if you're going to, you know, go onto 1065 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you need to take care of this thing. 1066 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: And I look at the Rams front seven in there 1067 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: and there, I think it's starting to come around under 1068 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips. I don't think that there's some players who 1069 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: were not maybe the most natural fit for his three four. 1070 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,919 Speaker 1: But how about lay All Collins getting dominated last week, 1071 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's making plays, Rocks ogl Tree starting to make 1072 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: plays from that inside linebacker position. So I don't know 1073 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: if they can If they can take what they did 1074 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: in the second half against Dallas defensively and translated against 1075 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: a terrible offensive line with Seattle, this could be an 1076 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: interesting matchup for the Rams. Let's pick this game. I 1077 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: need to see a little something out of Robert Quinn. 1078 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: Have been I've been was expecting a lot this year. 1079 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: This is this is a week to do it. I'm 1080 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: going to pick the Rams at home. I just think 1081 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: I don't feel like before the show, I was like Erica, 1082 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: what we want to do with that shortened team of 1083 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: a t L drop. We want to kind of sprinkle 1084 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: it in once or twice a week, maybe once a show, 1085 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: but that doesn't have to be We've been like Erica, 1086 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: Erica who is clearly we are having ill chemistry with 1087 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: her today based on stuff that may not be our fault. 1088 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: We're not Cam Newton America. He has gone totally guerilla 1089 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: warfare on us. I am going Rams. I'll tell you why, 1090 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: because I think Todd Durley looks the best running back 1091 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: in the NFC right now as not just a runner, 1092 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: but as a receiver. Teams can now do not just 1093 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: sit there and wait for Jeff Fisher to have the 1094 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: ball handed off to Girly three times in a row. 1095 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: You have to deal with the passing game. There's a 1096 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: lot of new elements here, and Gurley has been fascinating 1097 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: to watch. Rams are a game plan. It's catchy. It's 1098 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: now like Carrie Underwa. Yeah, it's kind of bits stealing, 1099 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: though it's now carry under it. This is the team. 1100 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm impressed how they can be a game plan team 1101 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: that changes things up so much from week to week 1102 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: when it's such a new team. But last week they 1103 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: really use tempo in an effective way, like speeding up, 1104 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: slowing down, speeding up, slowing down. One week they'll go 1105 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: to their wide receivers. The other week, everything's up the 1106 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: middle to their two young tight ends and Cooper Cup. 1107 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna get with this, Ramsey, 1108 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,439 Speaker 1: what a coaching you can run on the Seahawks team. 1109 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,240 Speaker 1: I have a I have a bit of a sessler 1110 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: that this means they'll being correct by the way the 1111 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: Legion of Boom was gonna show game and Jared Goss 1112 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: gonna come down into earth a little bit. I mean, 1113 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: what's the point of having a team of a t 1114 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: L if you don't believe in them and just don't 1115 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: mean that you think they're to go fifteen and one. 1116 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: I think it could be a bump of the road. 1117 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it doesn't mean that they're shot. I guess 1118 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: I figure, we don't know what's gonna happen, so you 1119 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: might as well just pick them. I'll do what I want, 1120 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: You do what you want. That's how the world works, 1121 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: So how America works. That's what makes us the best 1122 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: damn country in the world. Moving on, the Baltimore Ravens 1123 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: travel to Oakland to face the Raiders. The Raiders will 1124 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 1: not have Derek Carr, of course, who has a transverse 1125 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: fracture of his lower back, which is going to sideline 1126 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: them for a couple of weeks, at least one week. 1127 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: So a huge break for the Ravens, who, uh now 1128 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out how to get their season 1129 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: back back on track. It's not gonna be easy in Oakland, Mark, 1130 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: but having a chance to face a Raiders team, uh 1131 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: that is vulnerable without their number one quarterback, This should 1132 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: be a game they should hang in and possibly take out. Right, 1133 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. You take the Browns out of the 1134 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,479 Speaker 1: equation and these might be over the last two weeks 1135 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: the two worst offenses in the NFL with Derek Are 1136 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: you kidding me? What? The first two weeks? That's from 1137 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: saying the last two weeks they can't run the ball. 1138 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: Your star receivers have barely one literally was hurt. So 1139 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: I get that Amari Cooper drops all over the place 1140 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: in Dan's parlor. Actually's off the reservation, going to drug 1141 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: test you soon. That's coming soon. In my parlance, I 1142 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: really like that that came in there, correct, But I 1143 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: mean maybe the Ravens. We gotta say to us, come 1144 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,919 Speaker 1: back to us, Amari Cooper, you're the last ranked wide 1145 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: receiver in Pro Football focus. You have a miscommunication or 1146 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 1: a drop every week. What's going on? It's a great 1147 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: come back to us. We're getting EJ. Manuel and Joe 1148 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: Flacco who looks like one eighth of Joe Joe flat 1149 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: what's going on with Joe Flacco? Not healthy? One eighth 1150 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: of the Joe Flacco that we've seen when he had 1151 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: that amazing January run. The twelve and a half percent 1152 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: of Joe flac That's what we're getting right now. They 1153 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: have zero downfield passaga and the only thing they have 1154 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: that I see on offense is Alex Collins, which they 1155 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, they picked up off the street. Are you 1156 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: are you calling him a fluco? Are you pretty fluco? 1157 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 1: At this point, e J Man, everybody's excited about e J. Manuel. 1158 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, all corners on Twitter, all the 1159 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: white Knights out there. Oh e J. Manual, he's a 1160 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: great backup. This guy is there. They're in great position. 1161 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: It's out there in the ether the football center. Yeah, 1162 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: it's not the Cognis Center. He came in and he 1163 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: moved the ball better than Oh, yeah, it's you. You 1164 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: were going nuts on Sunday about EJ. Man was like, 1165 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: why won't they let EJ Manuel live? But horrible sub tweet? No, 1166 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: I was forgetting it. But it was Greg you were 1167 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: excited about, wasn't it wasn't I said he played well 1168 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: for a quarter. I certainly wouldn't. Do you want me 1169 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: to call it? Twitter? Find the tweet? Well, now you 1170 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: have a week to prepare. Yeah, that's true. I said 1171 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: he was doing legendary things and his receiver. Don't you 1172 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: think that was true? This Ravens defense, I know what 1173 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: but in England, but this is this is not a 1174 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: bad defense. I think it's just that they're having They're 1175 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: on the field way too much. But they're on the 1176 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: field because they can't get off the field. Like the 1177 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: Ravens offense has been bad, but get off the field. 1178 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: Ravens defense in the first half of the game. The 1179 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: Steelers started last week with a ten ten minute drive 1180 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: that had ten or eleven runs like this is not 1181 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: a tough Ravens defense. The Steelers pushed them around. The 1182 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars pushed them around. There's not a lot of pass rush, 1183 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: not enough juice, show me something. All right, let's move on. 1184 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: This is Fox game, so I think you're gonna get 1185 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: a little Joe and Troy in the evening. Packers at Cowboys. 1186 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: Love this matchup, um um. One of my favorite rivalries. 1187 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: And uh guess what rematch up? A playoff game from 1188 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: last year the best playoff game. I didn't think Super 1189 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,919 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one was the best playoff game. I thought 1190 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: it was Packers beating the Cowboys in Big Day. It's 1191 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: very really, that's very hipster of you point come back 1192 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Yeah, alright, passed, this was the game. 1193 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, now we get a chance to see how 1194 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys react here Greg, because they let one get 1195 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: away last week. They did, and you could say that 1196 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: they let one get away last season. Dak Prescott before 1197 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady ever did it, had an incredible fourth quarter 1198 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: comeback to put this team back in position. It really 1199 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: put it over the top with me in terms of 1200 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, the way he handled that this year hasn't 1201 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: been as easy for him, and that's partly because of 1202 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant there. They really can't stretch the field does 1203 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: Bryant sixteen catches on forty targets. And this is the 1204 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: reason the Packers drafted Kevin King was because des dragged 1205 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: the Packers secondary up and down the field in that 1206 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: playoff game. I kind of can't see Dez doing that. 1207 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: Prove me wrong. Maybe maybe he can do it. I'm 1208 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,959 Speaker 1: with you. I mean, for me, it starts that every 1209 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: week this season. I don't see the same offensive line 1210 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: from last year. Doc is getting pressured. I think the 1211 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: run game is not as automatic as it was. Although 1212 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: I do think that Zeke Elliott is running as well 1213 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: as we've seen all season. Last week he looked good. 1214 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: It's just that you can't grind out these ten minute 1215 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: drives with this offense. Right. I think the Cowboys aren't 1216 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: there yet. I think they might be getting there. It 1217 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: might take some time, but I think they're getting the 1218 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: Packers at the right time. Here. Davante Adams, who got 1219 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: just drilled by Danny Trevathan leading to that suspension. Uh, 1220 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: he was taping this on Thursday afternoon. Limited in practice. 1221 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: He might play, but also do not consider a surprised 1222 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: if you don't see him. And then time Montgomery that's 1223 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. So he's there starting running back. 1224 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: He has multiple rib fractured ribs, and it's like, oh, 1225 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: he's practicing, we might see him. Yeah, you're gonna actually 1226 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: take hits as a running back with maybe you know 1227 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: the one you got. You mentioned Sean Lee. He did 1228 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: not practice on Thursday. His defense is totally different without 1229 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: Shawn Lee and the Packers, it sounds at this point 1230 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: are gonna get back, or at least they're optimistic. Brian 1231 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: Bulaga and David Baktiari there are two great tackles. I 1232 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: loved what I saw out of Rogers last week. It 1233 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: is a very mature game, kind of letting the game 1234 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: come to him, that he's not trying to do too 1235 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: much in with less people around me. I think he 1236 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: played really fantastic. I want to see if that's that's 1237 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: a way to keep get going like and just outsmart 1238 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: other teams like Cowboys. I liked how you put it 1239 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Greg in your QB index that it was almost like 1240 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: you didn't put this, but all kind of what your 1241 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: sentiment was. It was like a Porsche type version of 1242 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: a game Manager game by Aaron Rodgers, or like a 1243 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Ferrari game Round Manager or whatever. Is a fancy car. 1244 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a car guy. I can get under a 1245 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: hood and pop a couple of lug nuts lug nuts 1246 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: and to get some things fixedly and then send it 1247 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: back on the road. You need an all change, I'll 1248 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: take care of that. Pop the hood, get me under there, 1249 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: get me under the old muffler. I can do that too, 1250 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: But you don't have like Carl. It's like it's like 1251 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: sometimes you know Rogers, he's he gets he's tries to 1252 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: be a little too fancy. This time he's got two 1253 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: hands on the wheel. And then every once in a 1254 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: while and he really needs to rev it up. He 1255 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: does tending to the ref al right, Mark, So I 1256 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 1: know you use uh a automatic transmission, manual transmission. You 1257 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: could rev it bang bang it and then you could 1258 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: really take off in your car. And those four wheels. 1259 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Every car's got four wheels. I mean, I'll say this, 1260 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: if you're not a car guy, I don't know what 1261 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: category that puts me. A car girl. I'm not going 1262 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to call myself a car girl. I'm 1263 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: a car I'm a car person. I'm not a car person. 1264 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking no possession over in. I spell woman with 1265 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: a Y by the way, that's Erica knows I'm on 1266 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 1: her side. Are you Are you into cars, Erica? No, 1267 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: this is not a group of car people. West West 1268 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: didn't even have West West West. At one point one 1269 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: point he had people coming up. He was trying to 1270 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: sell his car. He gave his car away like two bucks. Well, 1271 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: he gave it to him and said, yeah, pay me 1272 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: when I get back. Never like again. When that was 1273 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: like yeah, old Irish we called it. It was like 1274 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a nineteen thirty seven Toyota camera but us in the seat. 1275 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Uh No. Like West, I think he had been on 1276 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: the island too long because he got to l A 1277 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: and he had this this piece of car, and then 1278 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: the um he found a man that would take the 1279 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: car off his hands, and yeah, he said, oh can 1280 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: you okay, can you get like some money for it? 1281 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: And the guys like I think the guy offered West 1282 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: money and was like, I'm going home, hit me up 1283 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: when I get back. I just never heard from the 1284 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: guy again. Well, I mean, you know, a little hard 1285 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: knocks lesson there for the mail Mayo in retrospect, missus, yeah, 1286 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: go easy, and the poor guy, you're just burying him 1287 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: in a big and I'm kiddie, just one of my 1288 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: favorite West car was worth about U. Basically it was 1289 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: an it was an incident that cost him. Probably. Let's 1290 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: move on and talk about Sunday night football. The Kansas 1291 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: City Chiefs four and oh uh and uh coming off 1292 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: of that on Monday night against the Redskins, now traveled 1293 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: to Houston and this is excellent, excellent games. Sometimes the 1294 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Sunday night football scheduling gods works out perfectly, and it's 1295 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: like this is paying them back for Jacoby Bursett. Is 1296 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: you get Deshaun Watson at this place, You get him 1297 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 1: exactly when his star moment, when he's just kind of 1298 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: bursting into the national view. And this is a huge game, 1299 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: uh for the Texans to me because I we just 1300 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: talked about this on our NFL Network hit earlier today. 1301 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I am of the opinion that the Texans all they've 1302 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: ever been looking for, They've had all these other pieces, 1303 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and I like their head coach, they've always needed a quarterback. 1304 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: And it very much looks like now they have an 1305 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: answer at quarterback and a difference maker quarterback. If he 1306 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: comes out in primetime and Sunday night and whips up 1307 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: on a very good Chiefs defense ranks second in the 1308 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: league and making big plays every week, then you know 1309 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you're for certain that there's something very special going on 1310 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: down in Houston. Absolutely, And who would have thought late 1311 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: August that we would be looking in Week five at 1312 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: one of the best quarterback matchups of the year between 1313 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Alex Smith and Deshaun Watson. And you know what Alex 1314 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: Smith does belong in that in that in that claim, 1315 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: because what I saw him do on Monday night and 1316 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: you just said about it with a game manager type 1317 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: guy who does something much more. Whatever the car reference was, 1318 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: I you lost me with all the cars Ferrari, but 1319 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: al manager with a couple of extra little Polex Smith 1320 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: was was that and more on Monday night. He really was. 1321 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 1: And he and this is another guy that has so 1322 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: many parts around him and with the Texans. This is 1323 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 1: the first time with Bill O'Brien Week one, seven points, 1324 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: week to thirteen, and that's when we started. Then the 1325 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: then the switch fortson Al was Watson. But then but 1326 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: then the jump thirty three points the next week fifty seven. 1327 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 1: You always had to plan around the quarterback when you 1328 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: were Bill O'Brien. Terrible quarterback play, How do you mask 1329 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: it with the defense and whatever you can get out 1330 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,919 Speaker 1: to Andre Hopkins and fill in the blank signal caller. 1331 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Now teams have to look at de Shaun Watson and say, 1332 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: how do we deal with that? And everything else to 1333 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: bring it? Well, teams are gonna start to adjust. I 1334 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: don't think it will necessarily happen this week. They'll come 1335 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: up with ways to to bug Watson. But the thing 1336 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: that I love watching them is he helps their running 1337 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: game so much. And maybe O'Brien underrated that when he 1338 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 1: chose Tom Savage as the week one starter. Not just 1339 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: Watson's ability to run, but the threat of him running 1340 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: and how they're using him in play action and an 1341 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: option routes. And suddenly this Texans offense doesn't look so thin, 1342 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Like suddenly the offensive line looks okay with when Deshaun 1343 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Watson's out there. Now Will Fuller's back, I thought he 1344 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: was a big addition last week. I thought he looked 1345 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: better last week than he really did during his rookie season. 1346 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Suddenly you get Dante Foreman in the mix along with 1347 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. It's like you got some pieces here. It's 1348 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: not just one guy. Will be a great challenge with 1349 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters on the in the secondary for Kansas City, 1350 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,479 Speaker 1: this is this will be I'm finally thankfully we're getting 1351 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: a primetime game that I really get rid of. Houston's 1352 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,919 Speaker 1: performance against Tennessee. They scored five straight times to start 1353 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the game. And it's funny because when Watson first entered 1354 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the Fray way back in week two. Now he looked 1355 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: very much like a rookie and they still won the game. 1356 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: But he did you could tell he was not comfortable 1357 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: because of him too. But yeah, he made a big 1358 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: play at the end of the game. But the difference 1359 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,919 Speaker 1: between him three weeks ago and now, the guy looked 1360 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: like he was in total control. Uh. And it's just 1361 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: I think it's something special that we're watching. You mentioned 1362 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: the first half. The most impressive drive for me was 1363 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: right after halftime. He did one of those game manager 1364 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: take what the defense gives you. They basically decided after 1365 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 1: he ripped them to shreds in the first half, let's 1366 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: back off let's make this rookie work his way down 1367 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 1: the field. See if he makes a mistake, keep everything 1368 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: in front of us. And you know what he did. 1369 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: He just patiently, kind of calmly looked through his receivers, 1370 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: did eleven play, twelve play drive got the touchdown that 1371 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: way too, And I was just like, Wow, this kid, 1372 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: he's mature. He's comfortable in the pocket. He sells um 1373 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: you know different, He's able to sell the handoffs and 1374 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: the and the flips that Lamar Miller touchdown. He just 1375 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: looks so comfortable as a pro quarterback. So who you 1376 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: guys got in this game bout? I'm gonna take the 1377 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Texans at home. I feel like the Chiefs are just 1378 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: due for a loss. I'm gonna go Chiefs. But I 1379 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: that's not a knock on the Houston Texans. I think 1380 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really really good game. Yeah, I got 1381 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Houston in that all right. Lastly, Minnesota and Chicago Monday 1382 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: night football, and this one wasn't shaping up too hot. 1383 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Let's face it, um a week ago. But now we're 1384 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: gonna get Mitch Robinsky, Greg Rosenthal making his NFL debut, 1385 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Michael Lenon to the bench for the Bears, which adds 1386 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot of intrigue to this game. Uh your thoughts. 1387 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Going back to to his preseason and watched a little 1388 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: of it again, checked out what I wrote and and 1389 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 1: it was a lot of what I just said about 1390 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson that he see. Trabinsky looks so comfortable 1391 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: in the game. He had a natural rhythm, like an 1392 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: anticipation like Jake Cutler. You still don't see him anticipate routes. 1393 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Trabinsky was throwing it before guys made their rake like. 1394 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: He just looked like he was made to play football 1395 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 1: and so accurate moves well should help the running game. 1396 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 1: It got me wondering, like, actually, we should stop having 1397 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: opinions on things in the NFL draft. What why do 1398 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I know about Mr robisk I still don't know. But 1399 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be slamming them for giving up a lot 1400 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: to trade up for number two, because if he's a 1401 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, they haven't really had one and forty years. 1402 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't just you, it was everyone really had fun 1403 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 1: at the Bears expense of that pick. And it's so 1404 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: funny because because of Glennon and they weren't planning for 1405 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: that all to happen in order they would obviously take back, 1406 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: partly because Glennon, but also everybody basically saying, oh, what 1407 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 1: a reach and all. This's like nobody knows and we're 1408 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: not even gonna start to find out until Monday, which 1409 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 1: is like six months later. So whatever, everybody. To Greg's point, 1410 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: it's been four thousand, few hundred and nine days on 1411 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Monday nights since the Bears started a rookie quarterback who 1412 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: was Kyle Orton way back in two thousand and six. 1413 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 1: They don't draft quarterbacks, they don't really develop guys. They've 1414 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: always done this sort of signed the Mike Glennon type 1415 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: figure over and over. And if you talk to Bears 1416 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: fans down on our newsroom, you know the Adam Rank 1417 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: for instance, they're a bunch. But Adam Rank has his 1418 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: top five Bears quarterback was good for that team, by 1419 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: the way, he was okay, But he doesn't even go 1420 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: to five. It only goes to three. And Robinsky is 1421 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: already on the list, if I'm not mistaken. So at 1422 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 1: least this turns what would have been a horrible It's 1423 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 1: depressing when Monday night football has a crap matchup and 1424 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: you can you can try to shine it up and 1425 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: say it's great, Look at me, I'm a league guy. 1426 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: But like, no, honestly, some of these games, what is 1427 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: the subtweeting going on here? Look at me, I'm a 1428 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 1: league guy. Shign it up, I'm great. I mean, that's 1429 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 1: what our entire network must do, is act like that 1430 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: toward it is not towards Greg. If you're gonna say it, 1431 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: to say it, I don't think you would have liked 1432 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: what do you like this game? If Mike Glennon were starting. 1433 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm also like Lennon made it unwatchable. Now it's exciting. 1434 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm hoping who has played really well? I thought he 1435 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 1: played really well against I don't know if he played 1436 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 1: it was really well against the line I I do? 1437 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I think well I three drives ended with there was 1438 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: from his teammates and other a couple others did Was 1439 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: he not totally out of sink down the stretch on 1440 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: the right tackle let him down to I'll tell you what, 1441 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: at the end of that game, it didn't even give 1442 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: him a chance and he took that second third and 1443 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback plane really well in the NFL. That's not 1444 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: what I saw in the fourth quarter against the Alliance, 1445 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: but you did fun. I guess my point is he's 1446 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: been played well, but we still need a little Sammy 1447 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: Sammy Brad. I think it sounds like he might be back. 1448 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll be back. I guess it did. We 1449 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: were doing our pick Hum segment. We were shooting it 1450 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: at the cornhole boards yesterday and Greg was getting all 1451 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: excited about cas keen him on the road in primetime, 1452 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: and I was just shocked to hear it. But I 1453 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: think he's played well, and I give credit to Pat 1454 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 1: Sherman and not a guy who's gotten a lot of 1455 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 1: love on this podcast, because guys are open. He's throwing 1456 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I really did think it 1457 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: was his teammates all around that let let him down. 1458 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Three fumbles, a couple of drops, right tackle, all that, 1459 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 1: and their defense is playing really well. This is not 1460 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,799 Speaker 1: an easy matchup for Trabiscuit. A secondary is a tough matchup. 1461 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin's playing fantastic for Minnesota. All right, So there 1462 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: you go. That is the Week five preview. You next 1463 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: time you hear from us, it will be on Sunday night, 1464 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 1: our flagship program where we'll break down all these games 1465 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 1: we just previewed, but it won't be your last chance 1466 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: to see us. That's called the transition and the business 1467 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: and show business. But unless and until you start to 1468 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 1: explain that it was a transition starts Welcome to show business, folks. 1469 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Richiss never like. What about that NFL Pick Them, which 1470 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,560 Speaker 1: is the NFL network program that we are a part of. 1471 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Airs uh nine am, eleven AM and two pm on Saturday, 1472 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,759 Speaker 1: all Eastern Standard time and Sunday at six am Eastern, 1473 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 1: which of course leads into Game Day Morning with our 1474 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: good friend County Fox. So make sure you check that out. 1475 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: So let's uh, let's let's get out of here. Let's go, 1476 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: let's talk to Erica. We gotta talk some things out 1477 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: with Erica. Clear the air. The stand hands is signing 1478 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:02,719 Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm, the Boss and the two thousand 1479 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: seventeen podcast Woman of the Year. Erica tamp Post until 1480 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Sunday m HM.