WEBVTT - “I’VE BECOME A GOBLIN”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, So Hi, what is your name?

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<v Speaker 2>My name's NICKI go by Nikki the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Niki? What's going on? How can I how can

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<v Speaker 1>I get you today?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ecstatic to be gecked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it says here you wanted to talk about being

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<v Speaker 1>homeless by choice for the past two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of been like a house hopping situation,

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Honest, Okay, what's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like more peaceful and I kind of get to

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<v Speaker 2>like be wherever I want. Like I live in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of nowhere in Ohio and I've gotten to like

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<v Speaker 2>go everywhere in Ohio in a sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say that you are okay, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>been homeless by a choice. So you say that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been the house hopping for the past ten Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I just went through my third toxic roommate.

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<v Speaker 3>This one was the worst of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I went over to his house to pick up my

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<v Speaker 2>staff ultimately, and he kicked the side mirror off of

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<v Speaker 2>my friend's car and like throwing the blatta gun and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It was before we get that what. So, So you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is house hopping mean? Like what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Whose houses are you hopping?

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of just I'm a stripper and a porn star. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>like this that's my full time profession. But it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just like it's really toxic men that I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>move in with, and it's it's not great. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the cycle at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so the homeless. So you're homeless by choice,

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<v Speaker 1>hopping around the houses of different guys and you're living

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<v Speaker 1>there for a little bit of time, and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for two years all over Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I'm no, I don't know what Chat's saying

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't don't, I don't. I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the chat. We're not. I'm not this is We're

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<v Speaker 1>just don't don't think about the chat, don't think about

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm just curious, okay, we don't think about any

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I'm just I'm just asking, you know, So,

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<v Speaker 1>is that so that's what you're doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, how is that gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm homeless as of yesterday, But ultimately, like my

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing is I've had the money at multiple points,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm homeless, carless. I've never bought an apartment or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like, and I've had the money to do so,

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<v Speaker 2>but for some reason, it feels more comforting to do

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<v Speaker 2>it how I'm doing it, So I call myself like

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<v Speaker 2>nomadic by choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you've so you've made money stripping and doing porn,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've made enough money that if you really want it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could rent an apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like I've had all the I've had all

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<v Speaker 2>the things to put my life back together, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really just have.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Okay, And so instead you're how are you meeting

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<v Speaker 1>these guys that you're you're living at their houses?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually know. It's a really bad habit of

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<v Speaker 2>kind of moving in with strangers. I'm just like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>careless in a destructive sense.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you meet these strangers that you move in with?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I have like memory issues from a

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<v Speaker 2>little brand image, and I can't remember the stories of

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<v Speaker 2>how I meant most of them. But I do end

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<v Speaker 2>up moving in like shortly after meeting these people.

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<v Speaker 1>How many different people's houses if you stayed.

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<v Speaker 2>At over the passage, I think over four or five.

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<v Speaker 2>It only lasts a couple of months and then I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like gotta fund one.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you, like, do you have stuff? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>do you what do you do with your stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I've lived in toads, right, I own three totes worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Of planes and I kind of just live like that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And what uh in these past like five

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<v Speaker 1>dudes houses that you've lived in, what has the experience

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<v Speaker 1>been like?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, most of them ended up really badly and me

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<v Speaker 2>getting kicked out in like a really traumatic manner.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you have the money, why do you

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<v Speaker 1>not get your own place?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, currently I'm on like probation and stuff, but prior

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<v Speaker 2>to this, I don't I'm I don't know. I have

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<v Speaker 2>like a weird outlook on life. I've been through like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of trauma and a lot of like changing experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>I got really heavily into like a lot of psychedelics

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<v Speaker 2>for a while too, So I feel like introspective about

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<v Speaker 2>the world. But like, I have a condition where I

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<v Speaker 2>have seizures if I get too stressed out. So in

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<v Speaker 2>order to like keep my seizures to a minimum, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to live completely stressed free. So I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>everything about owning a house or in a parka.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stop you. I need to stop you

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<v Speaker 1>right there. Oh no, I'm sorry. Would you say your

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<v Speaker 1>name was again?

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki the Star?

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me by choice, you believe that you being

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<v Speaker 1>homeless and staying at the houses of strangers that you

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<v Speaker 1>just met is less stressful than just having your own apartments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I how did you come How did you come to

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<v Speaker 1>that concision?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also just like I started off doing this when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in like a really bad position, Okay, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately mean it's it's easier and less stressful for me

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<v Speaker 2>not to change my situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Nikki, do you do you want better for your life?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that better is like a good word, is.

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<v Speaker 1>A good word. I think better is a good word

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be one hundred percent honest. Even in

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<v Speaker 2>my situation, my current situation, it's not optimal. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>nobody dreams of this life. I feel the best I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever felt in my life. I feel I feel honestly fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>About my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, part I mean it's not all optimal, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I've been to the bottom of the barrel because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like every I get to enjoy everything else

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more. The little things in life mean a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me more why you feel like you know

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<v Speaker 1>these these past two years. Why do you feel why

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like your life is the best it's

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<v Speaker 1>ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>I had like a whole traumatic assault case when I

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<v Speaker 2>was really young. I was like fourteen fifteen, and my

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<v Speaker 2>whole childhood I was just like sheltered this like I

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<v Speaker 2>turned eighteen. I got kicked out before I turned eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is when all of this has started.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I chose to.

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<v Speaker 2>Spend my adult life so far not worrying about being

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<v Speaker 2>an adult as much as like, okay, enjoy, like I

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<v Speaker 2>have a good quality in life, which I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people can say. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I've been working on. Okay, my mental health and my

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<v Speaker 2>physical health are really bad off.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're right, Yeah, No, I'm not crying. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>No I'm going to you're not. That's what a great sentence. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not crying. I'm just smoking a joint. Okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you know what, But all right, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many things going on here that are interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, when I think, actually I watched I

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<v Speaker 2>watched all of the adults in my childhood. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>with their life because they never spent time trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find quality in life and they just spent time living life.

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<v Speaker 1>I I I really, Nikki, I really do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you are reaching positive conclusions and then making wrong decisions

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<v Speaker 1>based off of those positive Because here's the thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm happy to hear that you are. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>to me like you're just like, oh, things were so

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<v Speaker 1>bad and now they're not as bad, and I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for that. And I think that's sick. But I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't understand why. By if you're telling me the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and this really is by choice, that by choice, you

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<v Speaker 1>are opting to meet strange guys in ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember and sleep at their houses instead of

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<v Speaker 1>just getting an apartment with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Money, and it sounds really bad for everybody. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that I had money at the time that

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<v Speaker 2>I moved into their house. I'm more so saying I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about today, I'm talking about I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right now, I just got kicked out of the

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<v Speaker 2>last one. I don't currently have money for all that

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<v Speaker 2>because life's been a shit show this year. But like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, everybody kind of looks at my life

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<v Speaker 2>from a distance and doesn't really understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think people don't understand about your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I I nobody, nobody would do the things I

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<v Speaker 2>do but me and my breast friend, and we call

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves goblins and we just kind of like I've been

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<v Speaker 2>living the past two years is just like a street goblin.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you think people don't understand about being

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<v Speaker 1>a street goblin?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I do goblin shit twenty four seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's permanent goblin time over here. Just my whole

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<v Speaker 2>day is dedicated to whatever the fuck flies to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and like it's it's always goblin shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, I think that you can kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want as long as you're happy and as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you're safe. Do you feel like you're safe?

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<v Speaker 4>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you this too? Like you're like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your what's your deal with your family?

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<v Speaker 2>My family is not great and I have I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They just didn't like how it turned out, which I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. I mean, I'm a stripper in porn starr

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<v Speaker 2>and I do like let people know this proudly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of my career choices and my family doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>vibe with strippers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you said you have a you have a

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<v Speaker 1>goblin friend. What's how do you How do you know her?

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<v Speaker 2>My goblin friends? I actually met at the strip club

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<v Speaker 2>the first time we ever met. She worked at a

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<v Speaker 2>sixth store at the time, and she had it they'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you freezies when you work there if they're like

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<v Speaker 2>getting rid of stuff, and they gave her butthole loop

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<v Speaker 2>and she does not do any so, so we befriended

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<v Speaker 2>each other over butthole loop.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Do you do you have any concerns at all

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<v Speaker 1>about the way that you live or about or or okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well how about this? How about this with this? If

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<v Speaker 1>not any concerns about your present, do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>concerns for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have concerns for the future, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are your concerns for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't spend too much time worrying

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<v Speaker 2>about like what's going to happen, because I do have

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<v Speaker 2>some significant brain image, Like I got to focus on

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<v Speaker 2>processing what's going on now in this current moment. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really do like plans or schedules or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I don't worry horrifically about the future, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do, like I have been wondering lately if there's

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<v Speaker 2>something else that's going to be better one day?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there something else in.

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<v Speaker 2>Your getting a house like I have been in the

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<v Speaker 2>longing for Like I have decorations, but they've stayed in

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<v Speaker 2>a box for two years now, so I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere long enough to decorate. H Like that that sense

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<v Speaker 2>and like similar.

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<v Speaker 3>To confidently.

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<v Speaker 2>Call a home definitely like gets to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hm hmm. Have you ever seen, like have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen a real therapist or a doctor to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>any of these things?

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean I have in the past, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>all been very traumatizing, But I almost like to think myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little delvisional, and I'll put it out there now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do find myself like very therapizing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a lot going.

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<v Speaker 2>On in my brain and like a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 2>some really serious mental stuff, but I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>understand my own brain better than I could explain it

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's ensure. That's an interesting thought. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>telling you. I'm not even saying, I guess explaining you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was therapy? Was it?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it helpful for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like so. I'm unmedicated and parawell i'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to call it. I don't go to therapy and

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<v Speaker 2>it never helped me, and medications never helped me either. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just smoke some weed and I get

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<v Speaker 2>on with my day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Do you feel like you'll be Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's very retrospective. I didn't get to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>why I feel a little bit safer because I also

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<v Speaker 2>do have background in like dominatrix work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, h what the funk was I gonna say?

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<v Speaker 2>Just now, there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there is sure Uh all right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm debating, uh how much concern? Uh? This

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<v Speaker 1>is raising? I guess because I don't I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But where do you? Well, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna ask where are you calling me from? Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I am currently at It's it's the guy I'm sleeping with.

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<v Speaker 2>Sisters and her girlfriend's birthday today, so we're having a

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<v Speaker 2>seafood boil and I'm allergic to seafood.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you started hooking up with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>and it's his sister's birthday, so he brought you to

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<v Speaker 1>this seafood boil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, there's I'm like, they're little pet. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>their little stripper pet. They just bring me everywhere. I

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<v Speaker 2>like pretty and stand in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well shit, I mean is there anything else that

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to talk about in this regard? I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, look, I think it's good that you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your life. That you're enjoying going goblin mode. I

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<v Speaker 1>just would think that, like, like if you like, even

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're making money and you have money, I

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<v Speaker 1>would think if I were you, about how you can

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<v Speaker 1>use the money that you're making and the money that

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<v Speaker 1>you're saving and the money that you know, whatever you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how you can invest it, how you can

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<v Speaker 1>use it to gain a sense of stability so that

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<v Speaker 1>you know your God you can still goblin mode. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually like you can still like because to me, look,

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<v Speaker 1>goblin mode. Okay, I have thoughts. It took me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit to come up with my thoughts. I've decided,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this goblin mode that you

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<v Speaker 1>are describing? This freedom? This? I do what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what other people think about me. I've

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<v Speaker 1>spent my whole life fucking whatever, bowing down to parents

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<v Speaker 1>or bowing down to whatever the fuck, And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do what i want. I'm gonna live how I want.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents just did whatever they were told forever, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do what i want. I'm gonna go goblin mode.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's cool for real, I do, okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can have that mindset and live your

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<v Speaker 1>life with that mindset without being homeless. I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said this during this call. I've said this, You've

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<v Speaker 1>come to positive conclusions. It's just the actions that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like some of the actions that you have taken

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of the positive conclusions you've comfort to

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<v Speaker 1>are are are wrong turns, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not saying I disagree at all, Okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very delusional life that I'm living, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I mean, I'm happy. My quality of life

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's great, and that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Get past eighteen years and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not hav great and that's great. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe me, but I think you can maintain

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<v Speaker 1>that level of happiness, if not even increase it by

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<v Speaker 1>choosing not to be homeless and live with strangers that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't remember meeting. That's that's that's my word. You

0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.720
<v Speaker 1>can think about it, you can take it, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can leave it. But that's that's I guess what I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's valid. I feel like I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and I'm not really like vibing with the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being an adult at the moment. So the least

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<v Speaker 2>amount of adult shit I could possibly do so that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't wake up every day and cry is alright

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<v Speaker 2>with me. Like I still go to work and I

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<v Speaker 2>still like pay my bills. There's a couple that are necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, well, Nikki, is there anything else you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the computer before we go? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I just love walking your show. I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. I've been waiting forever. I was sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and they were I was admiring them tearing apart crawfishells

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<v Speaker 2>and then I saw that you'd called, so I ran outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, take care of NICKI good luck, good luck, good luck?

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<v Speaker 1>Yea goblin mode. I don't know. I don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>else to say that I didn't already say while I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to her.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 1>A shit, I don't know, man. It's like, it's like

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're a homie told you that he was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if like, what's the story, what's that that?

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<v Speaker 1>Into the wild? You guys know, into the wild? It's

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<v Speaker 1>with that guy. Christopher McCandless was his name. I think

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.280
<v Speaker 1>that's his name. It might not, that might be the

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<v Speaker 1>name of something that could. But there's this guy who

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<v Speaker 1>went into the woods by choice to survive off of

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<v Speaker 1>berries and nothing else, and in a weird way, in

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a weird way, he went. He went faral mode when

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<v Speaker 1>christopherm you can look this up. Look up. I don't know, people,

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<v Speaker 1>look up Into the Wild, Christopher McAndless, you wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>whole book. There's a movie about it. He'd by choice,

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<v Speaker 1>was homeless and went into the woods. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he told anyone. I don't know. I really don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he did, right, like if he did, if

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<v Speaker 1>your friend was like Hey, I'm gonna go live in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods because nobody can tell me what to do,

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going goblin mode. You you'd like, you'd be concerned, right,

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>he'd be concerned. But a lot of Look, a lot

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 1>of people think Christopher McCandless was awesome, and they egged

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.400
<v Speaker 1>him on, and they were like, you know, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is a hero. He's sick, he defied convention, and he's

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 1>he's inspired me to also exit the capitalist healthscape that

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<v Speaker 1>I live in and go live in the woods. Other

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:53.879
<v Speaker 1>people are like, hey, you know, he did do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know exactly how long, but pretty soon

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<v Speaker 1>after he did that, he died. He super died. He

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<v Speaker 1>died a lot. He very much died after doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he I don't think he lasted that long. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are like, hey, you know, he died,

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<v Speaker 1>so it probably wasn't the greatest idea for him to

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<v Speaker 1>go goblin mode, which camp was, right. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a matter of personal philosophy. I suppose I will

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<v Speaker 1>not be going goblin mode anytime soon. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>sitting and eating chips.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, Hi Gach.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your name?

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<v Speaker 4>Millie?

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<v Speaker 1>Millie? What's going on has life?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess I just kind of wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>H go ahead, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever me or my brother don't talk to him for

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<v Speaker 4>a few days or like we're mad at him, he

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<v Speaker 4>will go on Facebook and say that he passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>How does he say that he passed away? Does?

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<v Speaker 6>Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he pose as making the post?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what we don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>So he just so like, what, what's what's your dad's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Or give me a fake name. What's like, what's his.

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<v Speaker 4>Jacob?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Jacob goes, Jacob Frankfort, that's your fake last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Frankfort has died. Post by Jacob Frankfort.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So what exactly happened was he changed his Facebook banner.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like a blurry photo of nothing, and

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<v Speaker 4>then someone replied to it, like one of his friends,

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<v Speaker 4>and said are you okay? And then my dad replied

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<v Speaker 4>back at himself saying he passed period. And then and

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 4>then the friend replied who passed and then he replied

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 4>Jacob did. And like, I don't have Facebook, so I

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't see this. So my other siblings and like my friends,

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 4>they contacted me, like have you heard from your dad,

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<v Speaker 4>Like what's going on? I'm like, oh God, what do

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<v Speaker 4>you do? Like, Oh, he's saying that he passed on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times did he fake his own death.

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<v Speaker 4>On Facebook? Only the once? But he's doing it again.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was about a year ago, and he never

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 4>really explained what that was about. And about a few

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 4>days ago, him and my brother have like issues that

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 4>they need to work on or whatever. My brother was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to have that conversation with him, and instead of

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 4>having that conversation, my dad like calls me and starts

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<v Speaker 4>going off on me, saying that we don't care that

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<v Speaker 4>he's dying. I'm like, what are you talking about? You're dying?

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 4>And I don't try to get him to tell me,

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<v Speaker 4>like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, so.

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<v Speaker 1>A year ago, when he posts that he's dying, how

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<v Speaker 1>does he get like like how does he get caught

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not dead?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you when you when you find out that he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not dead, He'll just keep posting again like nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the crazy part. Like I don't see how he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't see how that's insane or like how it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to affect us, you know, like we have our own

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 4>ship going on, and on top of this, we have

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 4>a dad that's one day he's perfectly fine and then

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<v Speaker 4>the next screaming at me on the phone saying, you

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 4>don't care that I'm dying. And I'm like, I don't know, Like,

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 4>are we gonna see on Facebook again?

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<v Speaker 1>He so, what? What's what? It seems like you, in

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 1>general have a tumultuous relationship with your dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry what did you say?

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>It seems in general that you have a tumultuous relationship

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>with your dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's I don't like I love him a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>but he stresses me out beyond belief. Like what's the

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<v Speaker 4>last night he calls me at five in the morning

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 4>and I'm asleep and he leaves me a voice smell saying,

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>well by tried. I'm like, what do you mean you try?

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<v Speaker 4>You called at five in the morning?

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<v Speaker 1>So he's dying again?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Is he really dying?

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Why?

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>He say? Why does he say he's dying again?

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 4>He just threatens that. I guess. Like I talked to

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 4>him very often. I keep up with him. I ask

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 4>him about his health and he always says everything's fine,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 4>until like, either I don't talk to him for a

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 4>few days, or my brother goes off on him, then

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 4>suddenly he's dying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is does your dad? Is your dad married?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's going on with his wife?

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 4>So they take care of his mom and she does

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 4>like the day shifts and he does night shifts. So

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 4>as far as he tells me, they don't really get

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 4>to spend much time together. Wife either happily Yeah, I mean,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 4>they're happily married.

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So this is not This is not a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>just completely alone and is trying to get attention from

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>his kids because because he's lonely, he's happily married. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how long has he How long has he been like

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<v Speaker 1>doing shit like this?

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<v Speaker 4>A long time? I mean the threatening of dying. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't even remember. Honestly, he is, like he's such a

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<v Speaker 4>smart man, but he's so dramatic and like says the

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<v Speaker 4>craziest things, like just the other night, he was mad

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<v Speaker 4>that I didn't reply to him within thirty minutes and

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 4>then he texts me, you're selfish, you know what, Just

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 4>don't bother. Karma seeks those who seek it, So this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is probably what I assume a real therapist would tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that your dad has no boundaries.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, huh?

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Have you attempted to set boundaries with your dad?

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<v Speaker 4>When I do, he start screaming and saying that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't care about him, and like I keep saying, he

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<v Speaker 4>will go back to the I'm dying and you don't care?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, is he dying?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, as far as I know, no, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Does your brother deal with all this ship? How does

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>your brother deal with all this ship?

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 4>He tells me that I should block him.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume that means your brother has him blocked?

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<v Speaker 4>He has? I mean, I'm the only one of his

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<v Speaker 4>kids that he has, like an actual.

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<v Speaker 1>Really with how many kids does he have?

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<v Speaker 4>Four? And that also don't talk to him anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're the last one that like wants to

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<v Speaker 1>put up with him.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious, and I mean I don't This is

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<v Speaker 1>not a leading question in any way, shape or form,

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but I'm curious. Why do you put up with him?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good question. That's what my brother asks. Because

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 4>I love him, That's the simple answer. Like he drives

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 4>me crazy and he says crazy hurtful ding sometimes, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, You're right, Milly, Oh yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how much longer. Do you think you can put up

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<v Speaker 1>with them?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, this has been happening for

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 4>a long time, Like this isn't just the only crazy thing.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, he faked his own death twice. That's two

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>crazy things. Have you ever spoken to a real therapist

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>about this? No? Okay, you probably should, but I assume

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>they would tell you. Uh uh, I don't know. I

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking know what a real therapist would say in

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>this situation. But fucking.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone that I talked to about it, they say, don't

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<v Speaker 4>deal with this, you don't deserve this. But if I

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, if I really stop talking to him,

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<v Speaker 4>who knows what he would do? Like if he acts

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<v Speaker 4>like this when he doesn't get a text back in

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<v Speaker 4>thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but okay, you know what, Look, I'm gonna actually like, uh,

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>let loose on this one a little bit. How how

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<v Speaker 1>old is your dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixty two?

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty two? Is he mentally competent?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's not. There's not like something divergent about him.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean he drinks a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm so your dad's sixty two, so in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>And how old are you? That was in his thirties,

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>he decided to have a kid. And with that decision,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like a crazy decision to make. That was thirty,

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>he decided to have a kid, and he kind of

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>has to take on one of the responsibilities of doing that,

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>which is to not consistently call your kid yelling at

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>her and saying heartful things, you know, And it kind

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of sounds like he you know, I mean, he's he

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<v Speaker 1>has he shown you any remorse at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but.

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Like it's really passive aggressive, We're backhanded. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, when when he went off on me the

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 4>other day for no reason, started doing that I don't

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 4>care about his health and stuff. I was like, what

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 4>makes me selfish? Like what am I doing?

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Your dad is? Take your dad is? Is I'm playing?

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it's my job to play armchair therapist.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's what I fucking do. But to play

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>armchair therapist your dad sounds like he's taking all of

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 1>his problems and unleashing them upon to you and making

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>them your problems, which is truly a horrible thing for

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>a parent to do to their kid. I believe he.

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Had always done that too, and like, yeah, that's not.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not it's a terrible fucking reason to have a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really it's really frustrating because like I have

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 4>my own ship going on, I have my own life,

0:35:54.000 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 4>Like I can't answer at five in the morning, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Me and my brother thought, like after

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 4>we found out that he was okay, obviously, like we

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 4>thought it was pretty funny two right on your own

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Facebook as yourself that you passed.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, it's really really funny. It's very funny.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>It's very funny to do that. And then afterwards, you know,

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>update your fucking candy crush scores.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, twenty four hours later he's posting his candy.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Crush that's funny. You know, I almost I actually, jen

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel I like, for real, I feel bad for

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>your dad because I don't know why. I don't know

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>why he he he uh like that that's kind of

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>how I feel. Like, I feel bad for your dad

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>because clearly he's in a lot of pain, but he doesn't.

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for you because he's unleashing his pain

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>upon to you, which is not a cool thing for,

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, a parent to do to their kid. And

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you I don't think you're required to

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<v Speaker 1>put up with it.

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I feel Badrahim too, and I guess that's why I

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 4>keep responding in right.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>But but you, I think you can feel bad for

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>him and want him to be better without taking a

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:38.399
<v Speaker 1>loan out of the bank of your sanity. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know, by the way, that's an extremely hard thing

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to do. I actually have no idea, you know, like

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>this is like we're we're discussing a pretty like emotionally

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 1>distressing and complex thing that's way easy, easier, easier said

0:37:55.360 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>than easier said by a gecko than done. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, It's it's a really it's it's

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough situation. I feel I I I feel

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>your stress.

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he'll spam text me late at night, Like one

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 4>second it's really sweet, like I love you so much,

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 4>you mean the world to me, and then ten minutes

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 4>later it's shame on you.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Tell you tell your dad to get help. I mean

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that that's you know what, That's probably what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do if I was you. Unfortunately, I'm just trying to

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to put myself in your shoes. Is like

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I would just like your your dad like like you

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>can set up a kind of I guess, like an ultimatum,

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a thing where it's like, look, you can be a

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>part of my life, but you gotta fucking get help, dude,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you gotta go, you gotta there's something going on

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>with you. Your brother did that.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 4>Exact thing, but yeah, a few days ago, and that's

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 4>what unleashed this.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that's your brother, I mean, dude, if

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what your brother did, then the ball is in

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>your dad's court.

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 4>He just doesn't reply to him, and then he calls me,

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 4>yelling at me that we don't care. It's just the

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 4>same cycle, like so frustrating.

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I I think you should tell your dad he's gotta

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>he's gotta get help. He's got to work on himself.

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>If if you're gonna talk to him, because he can't

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 1>just like because like you want. He's your dad, you

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>clearly love him and you want him to not be insane,

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's gotta also want himself to not be insane

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and not just take it out on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I don't sorry, I don't see how he doesn't realize,

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>like what he is doing is unfair and crazy.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't know.

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 4>And he's smart, like he is. He's smart. So that's

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 4>another reason I don't understand how he could act like this.

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 4>And we're nothing but completely rational too to him. And

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 4>it's a good thing he deleted his Facebook, because.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a good thing he deleted his Facebook. I think

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Facebook was too powerful a tool for him and frank Frankly,

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean frankly, too powerful a tool for us, several

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>people of his age. I think I love you. You

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>ever go on Reddit? You ever go to r slash

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>insane people Facebook?

0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've seen some stuff.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, there's there's thousands and thousands of your

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>dad's out there also faking their own depth on a

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.439
<v Speaker 1>daily basis. So I so I hope you don't feel

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>alone in that. H what's your name again, Millilli? Well

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>listen Millie again. You know this is a tough situation,

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>but I hope you do whatever is best for you.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that's that's like an empty thing to say.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm bad at ending conversations, but I feel like we

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>got some good stuff out in the middle of this,

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like if you judged it

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>on the middle, not on the end when I said

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a platitude to you, I think it would have been

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a good I think it was a good. Do you

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>think was Was this a helpful conversation to you in

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>any way, shape orfore? Yeah, I think it was okay, cool.

0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you kind of just said what everyone in my life.

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely assume I'm not the first person to tell

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you all of these things. But listen, listen. Similar to

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>how you can tell your dad that he needs to

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>do something all he wants, at the end of the day,

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>he's the one that's got to make the choice, and

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>as are you the one that has to make yours.

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 4>If your dad ever writes on his own Facebook that

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 4>he passed away and you're not sure and it's probably not.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>True, I don't I don't know, I have no idea.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Facebook's kind of crazy. Okay, bye, Milly, bye talking to you. Yeah,

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what this is kind of so I kind

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of wanted to go look at crazy face Facebook stuff.

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>There's still people on there. Do you know that you

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>ever log into Facebook to see who's still on there?

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty uh like I remember being on Facebook

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in like twenty seventeen and seeing people facebook into the void.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know those people who are facebooking into

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the void, like whoever, whoever, you whoever when you were

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook in twenty seventeen, was facebooking into the void

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and you were looking at them their statuses and going,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 1>how does this person keep making these Facebook statuses for

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 1>no one? I guarantee, Like, if you have someone in

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>your head, I guarantee if you log into your Facebook

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>right now, they posted an hour ago and they're still

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And you know what. Actually, and by the way,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't mean to say this as

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a as a dick thing, like, oh, that person's crazy.

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I actually don't think that person is crazy.

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I fully understand why people facebook into the void. It's

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like journaling. They're basically they're basically journaling. That's what they're doing.

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>They're journaling, and they're like, it kind of feels good

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to take my journal and throw it into the void

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 1>just so it's there. That's what That's what it is, man.

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why we that's why they're facebooking. We all just

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>want to be seen. I think I think we all

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>just want to be seen, felt, heard, understood, loved, and

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that's why we publicly and that's why Farmville works, because

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>we just want to be seen. That's why people Facebook

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>into the void, that's why that's why people fake their

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>own deaths. That's why if you go on in sane

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>people Facebook, it's just it's just a bunch of people

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>who want to be loved, which is kind of as

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>stupid to say, but it's I guess that's true. And

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes love makes you say completely insane horrible things on Facebook,

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying.

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 6>Okay, from Hi my it was Bob out of twenty two.

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Bob, what's going on? How can I get you today?

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<v Speaker 6>Well? I actually have a question. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm mostly a podcast listener, but I've noticed you

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<v Speaker 6>don't really ever get anyone on the show that's like

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<v Speaker 6>super trolley, Like there's never anyone who's called in and

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<v Speaker 6>been like a boobs or whatever. Then hung up. I

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<v Speaker 6>was kind of curious about why that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's interesting that you say that that nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>called in and gone ah, boobs whatever, because I too

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<v Speaker 1>thought when I first started this, that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more people calling in and saying ah boobs yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll set the show. So the way, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much I talk about this on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but this show first started as a thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>would do on the Reddit Public Access Network back in

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty twenty. I don't know, are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the Reddit Public Access Network?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I never really got like on it, but like

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<v Speaker 6>I knew of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It never took off. It was this weird thing where

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<v Speaker 1>for like a year or two, maybe not even that long,

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<v Speaker 1>about a year, Reddit was had live streams where you

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<v Speaker 1>could go live and if your streams got popular, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>go to the front page of Reddit. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>way that this show first started is I was fucking

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<v Speaker 1>around as therapy Gecko taking phone calls on Reddit. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing that, that was a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>was like my streams would go to the front page.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd have like forty two thousand concurrent viewers watching

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and like almost all of them had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea who I was, or cared or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was definitely getting fucked with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more back when I was doing that. Other people would

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<v Speaker 1>call in and just like try to you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>an asshole. But true. But even dude, even back then, truly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was astounded at how little that would happen, even

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<v Speaker 1>back then, Like surely maybe like once a month someone

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<v Speaker 1>would call in just to you know, say something bad

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<v Speaker 1>and hang up. But I thought it was gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>every single time I went live. To be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was gonna be my stream was just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get kind of vandalized. When people kept telling me that,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, I would never put up a phone number

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<v Speaker 1>because someone's gonna say something and I'm gonna get banned

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<v Speaker 1>from Twitch, And I'm like, I don't people, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really happen. And even when it would happen, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it a big fucking deal. I wouldn't be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't stop the stream and be like I do

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<v Speaker 1>not condone. I would just I would just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was stupid, Okay, let's move on, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's what they want you to do. They want you

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<v Speaker 1>to get pissed off and make a whole big deal

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<v Speaker 1>out of it because they want attentions. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really it. But dude, for real. I am very pleasantly

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that like ninety nine point nine nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>people that I have spoken to the thousands of fucking

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls I've taken since do it on the Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>streams and the Twitch streams and the podcast alsoff genuine

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<v Speaker 1>people for real, like genuine cool They just want to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if they are being trolley or saying boobs or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not out of any malice. Maybe it's just because

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<v Speaker 1>they're nervous so they don't know what to say, or

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to be funny. Like nobody. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anyone's really come on here with true, honest to

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<v Speaker 1>god negative malice. And if they ever did, it was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, three out of a thousands, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy to me. It's kind of crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I've thought about this before. Of all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that I meet doing this, whether it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone or in person, again, like pleasant interactions, extremely pleasant

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<v Speaker 1>interactions over the phone and in person when I do

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<v Speaker 1>my live shows, Like, I really don't have any bad

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<v Speaker 1>experiences meeting talking to any of these people on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone or in person. It's mainly like on the comments

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<v Speaker 1>section of things and in the chats, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where people are just going insane, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even I'll say that the twitch chat is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The twitch chat it does not. But still it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny to me because I'll look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram comments of like a clip of some kind that

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<v Speaker 1>I've posted, and you know, everyone is like people are

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<v Speaker 1>getting into crazy fights and just acting like lunatics. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I meet these same people in person and everyone's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I know, it's funny, but and they're the

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<v Speaker 1>same fucking people. You know, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's what I was curious about, because like that

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<v Speaker 6>it sounds like I'm setting up for a bit, but

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<v Speaker 6>I promise you I'm not like do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even wonder, No, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Re seriously would have a bit. I was just curious

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<v Speaker 6>because like I primarily listen to the podcast, and then

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<v Speaker 6>I had that thought. So then I start watching more

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<v Speaker 6>streams and I'm still like, the ratio here is insane

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<v Speaker 6>because I haven't ever seen anyone call in and do

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<v Speaker 6>anything stupid, Like I think most shows that are calling

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<v Speaker 6>have those kinds of people, and it just seems like

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<v Speaker 6>yours doesn't just nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I you know, I'm very also, I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>very happy with like the size of my show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not like, like if whatever ex QC or someone like

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<v Speaker 1>that open to their line to phone calls, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen a lot, but uh, I really I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at a fantastic perfect size of audience where the people

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<v Speaker 1>who listen are just like I mean, that's the dream,

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<v Speaker 1>right is You're you're popular enough that the only people

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<v Speaker 1>who like know about you are people who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, actually like give a fuck about what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and not like, you know, people who not not not

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<v Speaker 1>being like someone someone crazy internet famous who people just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of will well we'll want to fuck with just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's funny. Yeah, Like I'm surprised. I'm I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that a bunch of like fourteen year olds into

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<v Speaker 1>discord chat have not been like, hey, let's go say

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of horrible racist things on the Therapy Geckos stream.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like that's that's happened. That's happened way way

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<v Speaker 1>way less than I thought it would. Sorry, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you say?

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I'm like, I wonder if maybe I've just

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<v Speaker 6>like missed it or because for whatever reason, like maybe

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<v Speaker 6>it's that it is happening on the show and it's

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<v Speaker 6>just cut out of the cast. But no, I guess not.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I cut a lot of phone calls off

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<v Speaker 1>of the Twitch stream before I put it into the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing like with malicious intent. Part of me wonders

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<v Speaker 1>if because I'm probably gonna put this conversation on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of me wonders if we're jinxing it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, But I don't think so. I don't even think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that this is going to jinx it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I was hoping that like by calling it and asking

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't make it worse, because I'm sure that people

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<v Speaker 6>have had the same thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, that's the thing is that the people

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that the people who would want to

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<v Speaker 1>just like call in and vandalize the stream are the

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>people who they're not. They left, They left a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago because they didn't actually give a fuck about

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<v Speaker 1>like being here and listening to any of this. So

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of makes sense when you think about it

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<v Speaker 1>like that, have.

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<v Speaker 6>There been any calls that you have that have been

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<v Speaker 6>super long. When did maybe you thought were with somebody

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<v Speaker 6>pulling your leg, because there's been a couple where I've

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<v Speaker 6>been like I feel like that was an act.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, sure, yeah, definitely hundred percent, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what I'm gonna say this, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is uh uh do you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck it? So the you remember a caller who talked

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<v Speaker 1>about jizzing on pizzas.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that was the one I thought of, Like that

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<v Speaker 6>was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So like like a few days after I put that

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<v Speaker 1>out or whatever or had the call, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>on discord and I was just like browsing my discord

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw a guy in the cord. It'd be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was I was just that was me who was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. I was just pulling the prank. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like and no, I didn't know. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even funny. I was like, don't do that, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 6>The one is the I think there was this lady

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<v Speaker 6>who like thought she was like fucking of aliens or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, sure, the lady who I remember you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the lady who thought that she who she was,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like a high she claims to be a

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<v Speaker 1>high ranking government official who gets abducted by aliens regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay that I know exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, okay. The question of okay that one I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would say confidently whoever I was speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone believed what they were saying to be true.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was hard. It was a toss up for me.

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<v Speaker 6>Like part of me was like, this person is either

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<v Speaker 6>it's possibly mentally ill, foot pulling a break, but either way, like,

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<v Speaker 6>I think you handled it really well well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks. Also because I don't I think it's not fun

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<v Speaker 1>to constantly be like this is fake and stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>I really someone was asking about this thing. I really believe,

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<v Speaker 1>like from sitting in the driver's seat of this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>My perspective is that the majority, you know, most people

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<v Speaker 1>are telling the truth and coming on here to be sincere.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I think. I sure there's like a handful

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that aren't. But like you look at the like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the YouTube comments and every there's every

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<v Speaker 1>fucking video. Someone's like, you know what, I'm actually really

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>smart and know everything and this is a fake And

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like, dude, you don't like you don't. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like ignorant to me to like say that

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<v Speaker 1>everything is fucking fake and like that you know that

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's fake. It's I feel as I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels ignorant.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a weird flex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weird flex. It's a weird flex.

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<v Speaker 6>No. I think most comment sections that kind of have

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:14.280
<v Speaker 6>their own vibe terrible. Like you look at the YouTube

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 6>comment section and this is completely stupid, but like in

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<v Speaker 6>the Reddit comment section, it's like people fighting over the

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 6>dumbest shit you've ever heard of in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, okay, I want to you know what, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say this real quick. Thank you for giving me

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the opportunity to say this. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>said just like two seconds ago that everyone in the

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>YouTube comment section is crazy. I take that back. I

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:39.800
<v Speaker 1>take that back. A lot of people in the Actually

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in the YouTube comment section, I let people are pretty cool.

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>It's in the it's in like the short form, like

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the TikTok the TikTok comments section is filled with the

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>same people. I will never take that back. But actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've been reading all the YouTube comments, like on

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the recent podcast because I'm curious because these conversations feel

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like conversations that I'm having alone, and so after I

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 1>have them, I'm a little part of my brain is like,

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<v Speaker 1>did anyone else hear that at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that just a conversation? I know that they are

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm doing it as a fucking podcast, but I

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>still does it doesn't feel like. I mean, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>only person in this room right now as I'm talking

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to you. It feels like I'm just talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like going on YouTube and being like, what

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>do other people think about this guy? Like we had

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that guy rowdy, that a kid who is obsessed with

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 1>his teacher, and I read I read every single comment

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that people had to say about him and his situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want, I actually really want to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt as though a lot of the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube comments section, if not again, if not the majority,

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<v Speaker 1>like a ninety nine percent, were very thoughtful, in very kind,

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and very well intentioned in their responses. And that made

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>me very you know, because I think a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for that call, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>maybe had a reflex to criticize and focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>things that were negative, And I was a little worried

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that would have I'm bean worried. What I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't control what other people think and say, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was pleasantly surprised that that was not

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<v Speaker 1>the case and that people were being thoughtful and helpful

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>because I was actually I was reading because in the podcast,

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the kid talked about how he's gonna read he wants

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to read the YouTube comments, and he was like, are

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you gonna post us on YouTube? Because I want to

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 1>read the comments and I want to hear what other

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 1>people are saying about it. And so I was reading

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the YouTube comments, imagining myself as that caller reading them,

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, okay, I think nobody. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see any comments that I was like, that would be

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a concerning idea to put in this dude's head, you

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like everything I read, I was

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>imagining him reading it, and I was like, Okay, this

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is actually like seems as though it will be helpful

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to this person to get these people's uh perspectives that

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 1>people came in with with good and positive perspectives. I

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>actually part of me was I was reading it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was considering making it like a segment of the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where I would like read comments, Yeah, but I don't don't.

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna do that. It's the

0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 1>real reason I don't know if I'm gonna do that

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>is because it's a bunch of fucking work. And I

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>also I also really like I want the podcast to

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 1>be like insular, Like I want it so that you

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:46.280
<v Speaker 1>can click on any episode and there's no like like

0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 1>some fucking podcasts are there about like their little in there,

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like they're about like their inside jokes and their community

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And I don't like that. I like the

0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 1>idea that you can you can click on any episode

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and you don't need any backstory or context to know

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking. But I guess I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't know who cares, who cares about anything?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I like that. Other I like the guy a lot. Yeah, ready,

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<v Speaker 6>scenes like like cool, but no, that's awesome. I guess

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of that has to do with this community,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's neat that a lot of people were on

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<v Speaker 6>their offering him some decent advice. I feel like a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of the times with like negative comments, it's more

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<v Speaker 6>on like the short form stuff. I don't really poke

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<v Speaker 6>around on like YouTube video comments, it's mostly like short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. Yeah, that's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the TikTok comments are kind of insane because

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<v Speaker 1>it is mainly like short form, because because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you really can't get a good perspective on on something

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, a minute, whereas these people are are

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<v Speaker 1>presumably you know, I mean, they could have just been

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<v Speaker 1>listening for one minute and gotten gone right to the

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<v Speaker 1>comments section. But these people are presumably listening for a

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<v Speaker 1>full fucking forty minutes to this guy talk about his life,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're getting invested and they come to know, they

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<v Speaker 1>come to you know, know him as a full human

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<v Speaker 1>being instead of well, as as much as you can

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<v Speaker 1>come to know somebody as a full human being in

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes. But yeah, you can do that more than

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes than you can in one.

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<v Speaker 6>So for sure there's still stuff you can relate to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you not go on the internet?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh no, I do. It's not as much anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, you sound like a healthy individual.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I mean maybe I just I got off

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<v Speaker 6>of Reddit and I stopped caring about Reddit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I watched YouTube during like lunches and stuff. I keep

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<v Speaker 6>up with news. I'm not like entirely disconnected. I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>not super like socially linked in you know. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>on Instagram, Twitter, yeah all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Twitter is horrible. I hate Twitter. I hate it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. It's horrible. I don't post on twit Twitter anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I deleted my Twitter back and you know, years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have, like I have like lurker accounts just

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<v Speaker 1>so I can like scroll and it's it's awful. I

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<v Speaker 1>I was scrolling Twitter the other day on my little

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<v Speaker 1>like burner account that I have just to read it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, why the fuck am I doing

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<v Speaker 1>this every single time I come on here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it just makes me upset, you know, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's a reason for me to do this. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, like I would type

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<v Speaker 1>therapy Gecko into the search bar like a fucking crazy

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<v Speaker 1>person to see if like anyone on Twitter was like

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<v Speaker 1>talking about me or talking about the podcast. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what am I? This is just like a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible and then I and then it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like your social media programming or like your brain

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<v Speaker 1>just like does things fucking automatically, Like I trained my

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<v Speaker 1>brain to automatically do this and automatic actually scroll on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was and at a certain point was it

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<v Speaker 1>was like snapping out of fucking brainwashing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck am I doing? This is insane, this

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<v Speaker 1>is insanity. I'm dying. I'm slowly fucking dying, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on here like getting mad, like getting mad on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>like what am I doing? Dude?

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<v Speaker 6>I did this. I remember being on the toilet and

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<v Speaker 6>being like I can't do this anymore. I'm too angry.

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<v Speaker 6>The algorithms work way too well. Like I think that

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<v Speaker 6>everyone has at the moment where they come out of

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<v Speaker 6>it a little bit and they're like, I, this is

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<v Speaker 6>this isn't working for me. This isn't healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I mean even like I don't feel I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel bad playing video games anymore. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe video games was a waste of time. But

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<v Speaker 1>in this car, like in this uh timeline in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, if you in this world where like your

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<v Speaker 1>attention is kind of being like taken away from you

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<v Speaker 1>through like just the brainwashing of like I'm programmed to

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<v Speaker 1>go on Twitter and scroll mindlessly if you can resist

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<v Speaker 1>that and be like intentional with how you want to

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<v Speaker 1>waste your time, Like there's almost something weirdly productive about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would like spending three hours mindlessly scrolling TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>is way worse than spending three hours like playing a

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<v Speaker 1>video game or watching a movie that you're reading a

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<v Speaker 1>book that you intentionally chose to, you know, consume that

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<v Speaker 1>was designed as like art. That's not just like weird

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<v Speaker 1>brain even like a nice YouTube video essay or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's not just like a weird brain rotty

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<v Speaker 1>fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Because then you're at least being like intentionally lazy, Like

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<v Speaker 6>there's still soft skills you can get from like playing

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<v Speaker 6>video games or reading or doing something else like the

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<v Speaker 6>doom scrolling. It's you don't never get anything out of it,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I I cannot remember what I looked at as

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<v Speaker 6>soon as I put my phone down from like exactly

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<v Speaker 6>like on TikTok or YouTube or whatever, like it just

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<v Speaker 6>vacates my brain immediately, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. I watched The Whale five days ago, thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it every day since.

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<v Speaker 6>The whale.

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<v Speaker 1>The whale, you know, the whale, Brandon Frasier. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's got a daughter and he's he's obese. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>still there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's an I saw really un It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really uncomfortable movie to watch, like uncomfortable. How like well,

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<v Speaker 1>also here's also here's an I think I'm like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look like the whale, but like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little overweight, and I think if you're like a little overweight,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more uncomfortable to watch because the guy is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like wheezing and having a heart attack the entire

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<v Speaker 1>fucking movie, and you're it just it kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>your like, like I was watching it, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was having a heart attack vicariously through him

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie. It's terrifl No, it's terrible. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fun movie. It's not a fun movie to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's great. It's a great movie. You should

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, Okay, but it's gonna be streamingly uncomfortable. I

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<v Speaker 1>watch that. I watched The inside Out. I thought about

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit. There's it's a very it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really weird movie night inside Out in the Whale, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, kidding on a side I like super relate

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<v Speaker 6>to uh problem with like snack food. I went through

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<v Speaker 6>like an entire box of sentiments, like an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, sinmons are great, They're great.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone brought me like an entire box box because they

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<v Speaker 6>like go to like food pantries. Yeah, and they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>well someone has left this year. I got it for

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<v Speaker 6>free and I'm not going to eat them. So here

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<v Speaker 6>you I've got seven boxes of Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not cool man, that's so that's so yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not cool man. But I once got uh a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>the uh like I got I got Someone sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty mister Beast bars. They were just sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>my house and that, and they weren't they weren't sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around for long. They were like full sized candy bars.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not It was not cool man. It was

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<v Speaker 1>not cool man. You know what I love is those

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<v Speaker 1>uh I go to this bodega every day and and

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<v Speaker 1>they always have a they have these chewy chips of

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<v Speaker 1>hoys with reeses. And every single I go to that

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<v Speaker 1>badega every day for it to get like a whatever

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast and ship and uh, I always look might I

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<v Speaker 1>always make eye contact with the chewy chips of hoy races,

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<v Speaker 1>and every day I have to answer the question what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of day is today going to be? Because if

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<v Speaker 1>I buy those, I'm not gonna like it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like a grocery. It's not gonna be like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a few in there, like in the pantry, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have them if guests come over whatever, it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>If I buy them, I'm standing outside of the bodega

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<v Speaker 1>and eating the entire package, and then and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then after. If that's how your days starts, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>going back. You have to take Nike will and go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep and start over. You there's no returning from

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<v Speaker 1>doing that with your morning, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's too much. It's vero much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too much. But again, you seem like a normal person.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem like a well adjusted man.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, thank you, I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So is there anything wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's a really awesome response. I respect that. Well. Well, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess thanks for asking me these questions and letting

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<v Speaker 1>me talk on this thing. It's fun to talk. I get.

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<v Speaker 1>I get why people call in to talk on this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun to talk.

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<v Speaker 6>On it is. I mean, really, you're for answering it

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<v Speaker 6>because it was mostly just to satisfy my own curiosity.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, can you say that again?

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<v Speaker 6>You got a good community. Oh we thank you for

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<v Speaker 6>yeah answering my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any more questions or comments or thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>or concerns before we go?

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm I don't think so. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Bob, God bless you.

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<v Speaker 6>And remember my name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you never do your name. I remember your name

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<v Speaker 1>and I never do that. I feel I feel mentally

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<v Speaker 1>clear today in a weird way. I feel honored as

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<v Speaker 1>you should be, as you should be.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, thank you as the get bye Bob bye. O.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy's awesome. I love that guy. Hello, folks, it's

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<v Speaker 7>And she like turns the phone around so I can

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<v Speaker 7>see it, and in like the ten seconds that she's

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<v Speaker 7>showing me her phone, a text drops down. And you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not like a snoopy person. I don't, but naturally,

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<v Speaker 7>your eyes just kind of, you know, it kind of

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<v Speaker 7>catches your eye. And the only thing I saw it

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<v Speaker 7>was that it was a guy's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark.

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<v Speaker 5>It's spilled M A R C. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 5>knew that it had to be the same guy, because

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<v Speaker 5>the spelling was the same. And so now I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>a situation where I found out just yesterday that I've

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<v Speaker 5>invited both of these people to my birthday party this weekend,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's going to show up and he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>show up unless I do something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just like a weird thing where she's seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you romantically and him romantically at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>And we're about to be in the same house, right Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, goes on the line making its own every.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, goes to exact in the line

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