WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: What You Came For 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.640 Hi again everybody on dan Hoard and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:11.480 the Bengals Booth podcast, the Baby This Is What You 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.080 Came For edition, as we catch up with fan favorite 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.240 Kay Adams on her annual visit to Bengals training camp. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.760 But first, Dave Lapham joins me to discuss Week two 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.400 of camp and react to some of the most interesting 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.280 comments coming out of the locker room. 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It was literally a 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.800 bang many years ago on Dallas with the famous who 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:16.440 Shot Jar episode, and more recently, I think every season 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.039 of Breaking Bad had a great finale, including the one 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:24.440 featuring Walt reading a book on the toilet. If you know, 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.200 you know my reason for mentioning this is Sunday night 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.600 season finale of the House of the Dragon on HBO. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.800 I don't want to spoil anything, but let's just say 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.360 I found it anti climactic. The best shows leave you 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.920 dying to know when the next season begins. This one 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:50.160 left me thinking, really, that's it. Thankfully, the best show 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.600 on TV and radio resumed soon with the start of 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.760 the NFL season. Now, let's get to training camp and 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:04.320 this week's conversation with my broadcast partner Dave Lappham. All right, Lap, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.080 Once again, I have compiled some of my favorite comments 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.280 from players and coaches over the last week or so 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.280 as we discussed the latest training camp developments. The preseason 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.720 opener is coming up on Saturday night at home against 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.640 Tampa Bay and Lo and Behold. The starters are expected 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.320 to play, including Joe Burrow. It sounds like he's going 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.480 to get a series due to the COVID protocols in 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.880 his rookie year and injuries since he's had a total 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:32.640 of three preseason snaps in four NFL seasons. Here is 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.560 Zach Taylor on his plan for playing starters in the 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:37.480 preseason opener. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.040 This is something I've loosely talked to some of the guys. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.960 It's not something I've advertised with the team or anything, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.000 but I think a week and a half away, that's 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.040 that's what's in my head right now. We just want 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.600 to get a lot of work in. And it really 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.160 is you know, with games and joint practices, there's there's 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.720 not a ton of practice time once you start playing 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.600 your first game against Tampa Bay. Really, if you look 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.720 at the calendar, there's not a lot before final cuts, 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.120 and so just trying to make sure our team is 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.160 prepared for the first week of the season. What work 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.480 do we need to get done? And so these games 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:07.160 factor into that. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.400 So the Bengals have started owing to each of the 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.440 last two years. What is your reaction to the starters 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.200 playing in the preseason opener and do you think it'll 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.880 help them get off to a better start once the 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:17.960 regular season begins. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.640 I guess, I guess only time will tell, but I 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.639 do think that you know, being part of the part 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.760 of the process where you go out there, when you 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.200 go to the meetings, it's like you're paying a little 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.680 bit more attention because you're actually playing. You know, you're 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.800 not just you know, that's for everybody else that' stopped 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.720 for me. It's not like you're not you know, observing, 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.560 but it's like your focus, I think it's a little 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.000 bit it's a little bit more intense. And then you know, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.160 you go you start to go through your pregame ritual 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.000 that you're going to use during the regular season. You know, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.360 when do you get there, what what's what's your protocol, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.720 what's your process when you go out on the field 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.040 to warm up even before the your your position group 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.280 goes out in the field warm ups and you go 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.760 through your warm up procedures, then you cool down, then 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.920 you warm back up again, then you cool down. Then 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.280 you have to go uh and do a final warm 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.840 up before you go out in the football field with 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.320 your with your team to start, you know, to start 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.320 a game. Then the process of doing that, leaving the 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.800 locker room, getting out out there on the on the sideline, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.440 and getting ready to go into a football game. It's 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.039 not like it's not going to be the adrenaline rush 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.880 and all that that you get in a regular season, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.159 but at least you know, you're you're going through some 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.920 rituals as such to become habits. And you know, the 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.440 quicker you go through that, the better off you're going 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.360 to be. How many snaps they take, you know, I mean, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.240 if Joe Burrow goes into that football game and hands 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.159 it off three times and leaves the game, I mean, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.920 you know, all that other stuff we just talked about, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.840 I think is more important to him than anything than 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.760 anything that happens during the course of that game. But 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.640 you know, it sounds like, you know, he said I 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.200 might get hit, So I mean, I think he's anticipating 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.479 that they'll they'll run their offense, not just hand it 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.839 off three times and and uh and leave the field 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.120 of It'd be nice to see them generate a couple 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.920 of first downs and mix it up a little bit, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.120 run the ball in and throw the ball. Even if 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.159 they do run, you know, only a handful of plays 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.320 get something out of it from a productivity standpoint. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.680 As a former O lineman, is it especially valuable for 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.080 the O line to play in a preseason game. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.119 I think it is. You know, now, I do think 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.960 that one of the reasons that you play it in 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.800 the preseason was to get your your rhythm and timing 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:34.080 your communication, making calls, false calls, is it going to 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.120 be verbal, is going to be non verbal? When will 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.839 it be verbal? When will it be nonverbal? All those 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.080 kind of things. You start to hone in on on that. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.960 And if you've played together, you know that's a that's 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:45.440 one thing. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:46.080 Now. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.040 The only combination that hasn't played together is right guard 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.599 and right tackle. However, that's going to a significant number 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.640 of snaps anyway, however that's going to pan out. So 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.160 I think I think it's important for for that that tandem. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:58.480 Uh. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.160 And then you find out in an actual live condition, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.039 game condition where you know when you're setting, if one 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.719 sets short, one doesn't. At the line of scrimmage, you 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.680 know you're more vulnerable to ets, and how do you 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.000 combat that if that starts to become an issue. You 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.680 work through a lot of those kinds of things. So 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.160 I think there is some value to the offensive line 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.440 playing together and just getting in a rhythm. And you know, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.640 I always make the reference that it's to me, it's 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.400 comparable to making a fish. You don't think about, you know, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.840 wrapping your forefingers and curling your thumb. It just becomes 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.080 a natural phenomenon, you know, and that's when good offensive 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:40.520 lines are playing at a high level. Man, the communication 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.400 is like all of it's nonverbal. I mean it's like 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.280 a blink of an eye or you know, a not 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.920 of a head kind of thing. It's it's pretty impressive. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.640 So after the first preseason game, the Bengals are going 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.400 to have joint practices before the second and third preseason 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.440 games against the Chicago Bears in the Indianapolis Colts. Is 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.960 that close to playing in three preseason games? 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.560 I think it is. I do you know, I mean, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.480 particularly in the trenches, you know, I mean they may 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.240 there may only be a period of uh, you know, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.320 live tackling or goal line short yardage might be take 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.119 them to the ground, uh kind of scenario. But in 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 in the in the trenches, man, it's gonna be you know, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.560 get your pad level down, come off the football defensively, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.360 you know, play your gap responsibility, don't freelance. Uh, make 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.560 sure you're you've got your gap control uh in in 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.400 mind and executed. So yeah, I think I think from 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.760 a from an offensive lineman standpoint, I think those joint 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.880 practices are extremely valuable. And then you're working in pass 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.000 rush drills against guys that you haven't been working against, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.120 and you're getting you just it's natural. You know, you 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.520 start to take a bunch of reps against the same guys, 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.520 you get in a rhythm and a routine, and you 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.800 have a real good feel and understanding and you get comfortable. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.920 This will make you uncomfortable, and there's nothing wrong with 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.160 being uncomfortable as you're getting ready for, you know, the 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.000 first regular season game, no matter who that opponent might be. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.480 Let's turn to Joe Burrow. Forget about the preseason games. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.400 He's missed most of camp over the last couple of years. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.520 He's been in there for nearly every practice so far 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.160 this year. Here's Joe on why that's so valuable. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.880 That's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reps that you 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.200 miss out on before the game if you're not out 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.240 there for camp, and you know, little communication between receivers 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.439 and quarterbacks, between offensive line and quarterbacks, situations that come 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.800 up that if you don't do training camp, they're not 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.040 going to come up until the middle of a game, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.480 and then you learn from it then, and you don't 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.520 learn from it in training camp. They're just you get 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.720 so much better day to day when you're out there 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.200 practicing the way that we do, and those rests are 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.040 just so valuable to me. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.640 Lap last year, in the first four weeks of the 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.640 regular season, as joey from his calf injury, the Bengals 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:06.040 scored three offensive touchdowns. That was in four games. Give 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.679 me the lineman's perspective on having him out there for 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.640 those hundreds and hundreds of reps, as he mentioned during 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:13.240 training camp. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:18.400 Yeah, it's huge. I mean, you know your guys out 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.760 there and like Joe's talked about, he's not happy maybe 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.040 initially with the spin of the football. Well you can 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.800 kind of make some adjustments to how you're releasing the 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.200 football and gripping the football and all that sort of 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.920 thing in that rep process, all those reps. I mean, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.319 that's where you know you're trying things and okay, well 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.480 that doesn't seem to work. Let me try this. Okay, 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.000 let's go back to that. You go through that entire process, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.280 and that's when you want to do those kind of things. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.880 You don't want to do them in preseason games necessarily, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.240 or you know, if you're not playing in the preseason games, 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.720 missing a bunch of practice before those preseason games doesn't 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.480 help the cause whatsoever either in that regard. So I 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.280 think not only for him them to work out everything 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.520 and get the mental reps and the physical reps and 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.800 everything that goes along with it, but we talked about 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.880 how the offensive line has to be cohesive and in sync. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.720 The relationship between the quarterback and the offensive line is 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.720 important as well in terms of you know, when he 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.959 takes his three step drop, how deep is the five 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.280 step drop, seven step drop. I mean, all these kind 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.719 of things. Everybody's a little bit different, and you want 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.400 to have the guy that you're going to be going 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.520 to battle with, you know, out there as many reps 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:32.040 as possible, because I mean, repetition breeds comfort level, you know, mentally, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.600 and it breeds comfort level physically, so it breeds comfort 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.240 level of performance. And if you're doing the repetition of 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.240 that over and over and over again with the same people, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.680 including the quarterback as an offensive lineman, it's big and 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.920 running backs as well, you know, because guys read things differently, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.320 they hit holes differently. It's just you have to get 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.640 a feel for your teammate, and the only way you're 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.920 going to get the feel for your teammate is particularly 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.760 when pads are on and you're working hard and you're 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.440 getting as close a simulation to game reps as possible, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.600 those are the most valuable reps for sure. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.480 While Joe has been out there, Jamar Chase hasn't been. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.640 As contract talks continue, when does that become a concern. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.240 I don't think it becomes a concern for for a 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.240 while because they have such a history together. I mean 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:25.079 they have thousands and thousands of reps, hundreds of thousands 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.040 of reps. Those guys are banked. I mean it's like 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.240 it's incredible. You go back to, uh, you know, the 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.680 collegiate days, and there's there's a there's a lot that 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.160 goes on at the collegiate level, as you well know, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:43.720 in terms of repetitions and everything. You build on that. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.960 They they've had success together, they've won together. They finish 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.120 each other's sentences for crying out loud. I mean they 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.960 know each other so well. There's a relationship there that's 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.720 that's extremely comfortable. And you know what you're what you're 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.400 hoping to build up when you're doing all these reps 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.720 that we're talking about with your teammates is trust and 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:09.520 confidence and consistency of performance. And those guys are about 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.400 as consistent as any two players in the National Football League. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.840 They see the game of football, every nuance of the 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.200 game of football through the same set of eyes. There's 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.000 no doubt about that. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.800 While Jamar has been watching Andre, Yosi Vash and Charlie 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.440 Jones are both having good camps. Let's talk about the 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.000 work that Andre did with wide receiver Guru Drew Lieberman 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.600 in the off season. Chase Brown worked with him as well. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.480 Yosi Vash was raw coming out of Princeton, but he 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.640 looks much more polished now. Here's Andre. You're catching everything 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.559 away from your body. Is that one of the things 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.560 that you worked on in the off season. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.560 Yeah, I mean there's a you know, everyone thinks there's 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.680 no technique to catching the ball, but there is. And 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.640 every time we would start off a receiver session with 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.840 my coach, it's about all about catching the ball. Like running. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.200 We would literally run full speed straight at him and 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.600 if you didn't have your arms fully extended, we'd have 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:04.760 to do it again, you know what I mean. So 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.440 just having the toughest situation to catch a ball every 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.160 day at the start of practice is makes catching most 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.080 other balls pretty easy. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.079 I think is it second nature now? 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.160 I mean, I don't think about it. I mean the 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:17.280 only thing I have to think about is whether I 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:18.960 need to possesion, catch it or get my yak. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.720 That's that's what I think about. Yeah, so there's a 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.720 different way of catching it when that's the case. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.280 Yeah, I mean, like I mean Ti is a master 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.000 of possession catching, and then Jamar is a master of 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.280 yak dude. So it's like you have two really good 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.160 guys to learn from. And we also got taught that 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.360 with our receiver coach. You know, there's times you know 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.160 you need to you know, split the defenders, how to 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:40.960 drop step into the ball and catch it, or just 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.319 possession catching. I think as just playing more football, you 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:44.520 definitely get more of a feel for it. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.200 How did you get his name and decide to train 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:47.800 under him? 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.240 I used to follow him when he trained Mohamed Sanu. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.800 I used to watch his YouTube videos maybe like pre 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.760 COVID and then during COVID and stuff, and I was 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.640 just working on my own. Yeah, so he had a 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:02.720 lot of good things. And then I remember I was 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.600 looking to train with people this off season, and I 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.800 was searching, like the guys that I knew on Instagram 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.160 and there's this video of him training Evan Ingram and 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.560 he was just making him hold a plank and he said, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:16.480 how bad do you want it? 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:17.640 And that pretty much. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.760 I was like, Okay, I think I. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:20.720 Let me try this guy. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.320 And then he has the best decision I ever made, 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:23.560 in my. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.000 Opinion, But that sounds like mister Miyagi stuff. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.520 Yeah yeah, but he's he's a guru for sure, and 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.560 he I mean, yeah, he's he's a mentor now and 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.040 he really cares for you know, both Chase and I. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.080 So I think he's one of the best decisions I made, 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.080 and hopefully I just keep growing with him and keep 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:42.840 growing my career. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.400 Andrey called it the best decision I ever made in 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.680 my life. What stands out when you watch on Yosia. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.280 Yeah, definitely in his football life for sure, you know, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.760 staying on his life, that's that's pretty impressive. The thing 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.560 that I've noticed about Yosivah is he's probably seven or 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.800 eight pounds heavier and st longer and bigger, and has 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.160 not lost the step. He may have gained half a step, 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.920 and it has not affected his quickness, his ability to 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.640 get in and out of cuts, and then his speed 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.040 as well. That's the thing about him is he is 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.280 very very fast, straight line speed, but he can also 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.400 change speeds, get in and out of cuts, do all 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.400 those sorts of things. A lot of the conditioning that 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.800 he was talking about earlier in camp to me about 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.840 was the one legged squats and doing all these things. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.440 I mean, he reworked his body, he reworked his techniques. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:32.040 I mean, he. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:39.120 Really busted it, and he made a big investment physically 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.800 and monetarily to get better on his own, on his own. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.720 And they also worked with these group of receivers, worked 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.080 with the guru who's worked with a bunch of defensive backs. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.360 So they worked against each other and so you know, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:57.720 you're getting NFL reps the entire offseason against high quality 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.440 defensive backs all around the National Football League. So I 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.880 think that I think that he realized that he belonged. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.360 You know, I can do what these guys are doing. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.720 You know, here's a big sample size of what's available 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.400 in the National Football League, and I'm doing everything as 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.160 well and successfully as those guys are. So I think 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.320 that was a huge, you know, mental confidence builder as well. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.560 That's a great point because Mike Hilton was one of 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.400 the defensive backs that was involved in those workouts. Then 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.440 there's Charlie Jones. He will never be mister Universe, but 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.960 he put on about eight pounds of muscle working with 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.160 Bengals strength coach Joey Bose. Here's Zach Taylor. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.880 I know that he made a point of emphasis with 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.560 Joey to to let's get stronger. That's natural, you know, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.600 coming out of college and having to play receiver against 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.680 the physicality, especially in this division. But but we also 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.920 noticed he can he can play tougher and faster because 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.600 he knows what to do and you're one your head 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.640 spinning a little bit. And I've really seen Charlie. You know, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.280 we highlighted a play that he made today in the 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.840 team meeting because you're seeing the confidence take over for him. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.240 He knows what to do and so now he can 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.600 focus on the nuances of how to do it as 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.680 opposed to what route am I run at? What is 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.560 the coverage? And so he's playing much faster than making 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.760 a lot of plays for us. And he is a 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.119 guy that I think has really had a solid start 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:14.480 to camp. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.760 When Charlie Jones was drafted last year. I think many 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.679 people considered him to be the heir apparent to Tyler Boyd. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.240 Boyd had sixty seven catches for six hundred and sixty 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.439 seven yards last year before going to Tennessee. It seems 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.200 to me that after Charlie had some injury problems last 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.000 year and then the Bengals drafted Jermaine Burton, he was 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:36.000 almost like forgotten by many of people that follow this 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.399 football team. But he's put himself back on the map 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:39.440 so far in training camp. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:44.160 He has and I think in two ways. I think Yosi, Vash, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.719 Charlie and Chase Round They're all fall in the same category. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.080 It was like, man, not only was it a physical 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.960 adjustment of the National Football League. There's so much to learn, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.399 you know, and Charlie is a slot receiver. There's a 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:02.520 lot to learn in there. So I think they, all 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.359 three of them, I think, made a commitment to improve 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:09.520 themselves physically and to make sure that they understood every 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.399 single thing there is to understand with respect to the 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:18.520 playbook and assignments within every single snap that they're going 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.240 to be taken, because that'll hold you back. I mean 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.320 that held my mind, had held all three of them 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.760 back a little bit as a rookie, some more than others. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.560 But what they've done, and admirably so, from year one 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.919 to year two, you realize, all right, I gotta I 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.400 gotta get after it, and now I know what to expect. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.000 Now I know how much there is to learn. Now 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.200 I know what the defenses look like that I'm learning 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.240 against and the personnel involved. And usually you make that 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.760 big jump from year one to year two. These guys 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:53.480 have Charlie being a great example, have prepared themselves for 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.920 a big improvement of success from year one to year 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.600 two with what they did both physically and mentally off season, Lapp. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.960 As we record this podcast, the Bengals are eight practices in. 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.120 We still have not seen Trent Brown in uniform as 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.360 he rehabs an undisclosed injury. That means a Marius Mims 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.040 has been the first team right tackle and people are 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.520 praising him for more than his immense physical gifts. Here 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.040 are Dan Pitcher and Joe Burrow, just how he is 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:23.320 across the board. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:28.560 You know, mentally he's plenty capable of understanding what we're 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.920 asking out of him. Sure, he's had a couple he's 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.199 had a couple of mas which are expected. He's not 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.720 making the same mistake twice, you know. And and he's 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.239 he's just really coachable, has a great way about him 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.080 in the building, has a good blend of self confidence 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.280 and humility. Uh that I think it's important for rookies 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:48.800 to be able to strike in this league. And I 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.320 think that he just very naturally lives in that in 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.639 that space and so really happy with a Marius Uh 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:56.040 And what we. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.119 See so far, my feeling on that guy's pretty good 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.919 right now. His mindset, his athletics, in his size, his 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.680 willingness to be coached and grow and learn is all 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.199