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Speaker 1: Kay Adams on her annual visit to Bengals training camp.

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Speaker 1: But first, Dave Lapham joins me to discuss Week two

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Speaker 1: the NFL season. Now, let's get to training camp and

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Speaker 1: this week's conversation with my broadcast partner Dave Lappham. All right, Lap,

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Speaker 1: Once again, I have compiled some of my favorite comments

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Speaker 1: from players and coaches over the last week or so

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Speaker 1: as we discussed the latest training camp developments. The preseason

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Speaker 1: opener is coming up on Saturday night at home against

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Lo and Behold. The starters are expected

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Speaker 1: to play, including Joe Burrow. It sounds like he's going

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Speaker 1: to get a series due to the COVID protocols in

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Speaker 1: his rookie year and injuries since he's had a total

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Speaker 1: of three preseason snaps in four NFL seasons. Here is

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor on his plan for playing starters in the

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Speaker 2: This is something I've loosely talked to some of the guys.

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Speaker 2: It's not something I've advertised with the team or anything,

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Speaker 2: but I think a week and a half away, that's

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Speaker 2: that's what's in my head right now. We just want

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Speaker 2: to get a lot of work in. And it really

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Speaker 2: is you know, with games and joint practices, there's there's

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Speaker 2: not a ton of practice time once you start playing

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Speaker 2: your first game against Tampa Bay. Really, if you look

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Speaker 2: at the calendar, there's not a lot before final cuts,

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Speaker 2: and so just trying to make sure our team is

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Speaker 2: prepared for the first week of the season. What work

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Speaker 1: So the Bengals have started owing to each of the

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Speaker 1: last two years. What is your reaction to the starters

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Speaker 3: I guess, I guess only time will tell, but I

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Speaker 3: do think that you know, being part of the part

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Speaker 3: not just you know, that's for everybody else that' stopped

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Speaker 3: for me. It's not like you're not you know, observing,

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Speaker 3: when do you get there, what what's what's your protocol,

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Speaker 3: if Joe Burrow goes into that football game and hands

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Speaker 3: that they'll they'll run their offense, not just hand it

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Speaker 1: As a former O lineman, is it especially valuable for

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Speaker 3: I think it is. You know, now, I do think

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Speaker 3: it be verbal? When will it be nonverbal? All those

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Speaker 3: And if you've played together, you know that's a that's

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Speaker 3: The only combination that hasn't played together is right guard

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's important for for that that tandem.

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Speaker 3: And then you find out in an actual live condition,

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Speaker 3: game condition where you know when you're setting, if one

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Speaker 3: know you're more vulnerable to ets, and how do you

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Speaker 3: I think there is some value to the offensive line

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Speaker 3: I always make the reference that it's to me, it's

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Speaker 1: So after the first preseason game, the Bengals are going

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Speaker 1: to have joint practices before the second and third preseason

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Speaker 1: games against the Chicago Bears in the Indianapolis Colts. Is

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Speaker 1: that close to playing in three preseason games?

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Speaker 3: I think it is. I do you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: particularly in the trenches, you know, I mean they may

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Speaker 3: in the in the trenches, man, it's gonna be you know,

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Speaker 3: get your pad level down, come off the football defensively,

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Speaker 3: you know, play your gap responsibility, don't freelance. Uh, make

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Speaker 3: a from an offensive lineman standpoint, I think those joint

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Speaker 3: practices are extremely valuable. And then you're working in pass

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Speaker 3: This will make you uncomfortable, and there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 3: being uncomfortable as you're getting ready for, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Let's turn to Joe Burrow. Forget about the preseason games.

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Speaker 1: He's missed most of camp over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: He's been in there for nearly every practice so far

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Speaker 1: this year. Here's Joe on why that's so valuable.

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Speaker 5: That's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of reps that you

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Speaker 5: there for camp, and you know, little communication between receivers

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Speaker 5: and quarterbacks, between offensive line and quarterbacks, situations that come

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Speaker 5: up that if you don't do training camp, they're not

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Speaker 5: and then you learn from it then, and you don't

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Speaker 5: learn from it in training camp. They're just you get

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Speaker 5: so much better day to day when you're out there

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Speaker 5: practicing the way that we do, and those rests are

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Speaker 1: Lap last year, in the first four weeks of the

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Speaker 1: regular season, as joey from his calf injury, the Bengals

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Speaker 1: scored three offensive touchdowns. That was in four games. Give

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Speaker 1: me the lineman's perspective on having him out there for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's huge. I mean, you know your guys out

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Speaker 3: there and like Joe's talked about, he's not happy maybe

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Speaker 3: let's go back to that. You go through that entire process,

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Speaker 3: and that's when you want to do those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to do them in preseason games necessarily,

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Speaker 3: missing a bunch of practice before those preseason games doesn't

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Speaker 3: think not only for him them to work out everything

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Speaker 3: The relationship between the quarterback and the offensive line is

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Speaker 3: level of performance. And if you're doing the repetition of

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Speaker 3: including the quarterback as an offensive lineman, it's big and

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Speaker 7: You know, mentally he's plenty capable of understanding what we're

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Speaker 1: Are we getting close to the point where the Bengals

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Speaker 3: You know, Dan, When I hear the offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 3: League and will play in the National Football League. But

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Speaker 3: I do see similarities.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: I do see a lot of similarities that that take

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Speaker 3: me back to that and I just remember that entire

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Speaker 3: process with Anthony. And I think Mims is tracking a

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Speaker 3: at a very good rate himself.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard much about Cordel vols in this camp.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good thing. Have you watched him much

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Speaker 1: and if so, what are you seeing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think he's really worked at it

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Speaker 3: as well. I mean Cordel Volston is I think even

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Speaker 3: bigger and stronger, you know, and and he's he's always

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Speaker 3: had an ability to uh to move latterally, change direction,

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Speaker 3: those kind of things. He's he's plenty athletic enough. And

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Speaker 3: you know it's very early that stample size is small.

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Speaker 3: But I think one of the things last year that

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Speaker 3: became an issue for him was eagerness, a little over eagerness,

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Speaker 3: over aggressiveness and in the in the big thing now

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Speaker 3: is with with a year of snaps under your belt

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Speaker 3: and uh having you know, success overall. When you look

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Speaker 3: at that season, trust your technique, trust yourself, trust your technique.

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Speaker 3: You know, don't lapse back into old habits. You know,

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Speaker 3: put stay calm, stay poised, and everything that Frank's been

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Speaker 3: working with you on for a significant number of snaps.

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Speaker 3: Now believe they're what's going to get you there. Believe

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Speaker 3: they're the thing that's going to make you the player

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Speaker 3: you want to be in the National Football League. And

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Speaker 3: I think that process continues form.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn to defense. The Bengals wanted to keep DJ Reader.

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Speaker 1: He went to Detroit on a two year, twenty two

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract. The Bengals are actually paying more than

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Speaker 1: that to Sheldon Rankins two years twenty six mil. They're

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Speaker 1: roughly the same age, but Rankins is not coming off

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Speaker 1: a major injury like DJ Reader is. Here is BJ

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Speaker 1: Hill on his new teammate, Sheldon Rankins.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's a pro. I love being out there with him,

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Speaker 4: the way he communicates where we just like talk about ball.

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Speaker 4: We kind of grew up with a similar He had

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Speaker 4: a mighty line coach that had in college. He had

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Speaker 4: in New Orleans. A lot of similarity there. The way

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Speaker 4: we play and stuff like that. I love being out

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Speaker 4: there with them.

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Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins is obviously known for his pass rushing ability inside.

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Speaker 1: Has he been getting pressure from when you've been watching

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Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven drills?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting. DJ Reader and

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Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins have opposite strengths as such. You know, DJ

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Speaker 3: Reader the big you know, a lot of girth, no

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Speaker 3: stuff for kind of guy, but can give you pass rush.

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Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins outstanding interior pass rush guy, but can give

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Speaker 3: you good snaps stopping the run. So it's it's interesting

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Speaker 3: they're they're they're opposite but effective, you know, still in

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Speaker 3: in in the way they're utilized. I think the big thing,

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Speaker 3: the most noticeable thing once you get the game snaps,

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Speaker 3: is that they'll be able to slide the interior of

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Speaker 3: the defensive line from nose tackle to three T technique

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Speaker 3: because they're both capable of doing it in the same

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Speaker 3: type of way as b J. Hill, you know, and

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Speaker 3: Rankins and others. I mean, there's gonna be other guys

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Speaker 3: in the rotation, but instead of taking that three technique

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Speaker 3: and flopping him, you know, and keeping one player on

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Speaker 3: the nose and moving that that defensive tackle on the

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Speaker 3: outside shoulder of the guard from right to left guard

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Speaker 3: based on strength to formation and motion and everything, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of times when that guy's moving, they snap

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Speaker 3: the football and it's all it's disjointed. You know, your

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Speaker 3: gap controls become a problem because you've got a guy

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Speaker 3: that's not anchored and ready to take on a gap.

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Speaker 3: So I think, I think that's an interesting difference. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do think. I do think that he is a

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Speaker 3: pros pro. And I do notice, you know, we're able

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Speaker 3: to be right near where the team is on the

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Speaker 3: sideline during practice, and every time he comes out of

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Speaker 3: a out of a team portion of snaps, he gets

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Speaker 3: together with the guy who's out there with and other

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Speaker 3: interior defensive linemen that might not have been on the

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Speaker 3: and not on the field to replace him, and he

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Speaker 3: kind of brings them together and talks about it. So

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Speaker 3: communication is a big, big part of the game of football,

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Speaker 3: and he seems to be a guy that communicates on

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Speaker 3: the field, in the huddle, in the locker room, off

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Speaker 3: the football field. I mean, communication is what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: Last week, we discussed the progress of DJ Turner and

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Speaker 1: Dax Hill at outside corner quite a bit. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about fifth round draft pick Josh Newton out of TCU.

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Speaker 1: He got some snaps with the first team at outside

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Speaker 1: corner on Friday. Here are cornerbacks coach Chuck Berks and

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Speaker 1: head coach Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 8: Man. I love Josh Newton's competitive spirit, his tenacity, his

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Speaker 8: willingness to learn and grow. He's taken on two positions,

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Speaker 8: so he's showing that. You know, he has some position

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Speaker 8: flex but just from an overall day to day approach,

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Speaker 8: I'm extremely impressed with him.

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Speaker 2: He's competing his tail. I'll say that about him, and

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Speaker 2: like all the rookies, you know, they will continue to

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Speaker 2: be HIGs and lowers. But I love his energy. The

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Speaker 2: guy loves football and he's there for a reason.

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Speaker 1: I think he's looked really good in the one on

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Speaker 1: one drills that they do with the wide receivers. Do

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Speaker 1: you think Josh Newton is better than advertised for being

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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think some people missed on you know,

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Speaker 3: I think the Bengals were ecstatic when he was still there.

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Speaker 3: They had him targeted like third round kind of guy,

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Speaker 3: so when he was still there in the fifth they

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Speaker 3: jumped at that opportunity. As the legendary Paul Brown said, Son,

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Speaker 3: it appears the game is not too big for you.

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Speaker 3: That's what he would always tell you. I remember as

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Speaker 3: a rookie, you would look for that comment from Paul

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Speaker 3: Brown because that meant that things were going well for you.

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Speaker 3: If it was the opposite, Son, it looks like the

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Speaker 3: games maybe a little bit too big for you. You

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Speaker 3: knew maybe days were limited, it was on a countdown.

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Speaker 3: So I think Paul Brown, after watching Newton perform and compete,

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Speaker 3: would be saying, Son, the game's definitely not too big

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Speaker 3: for you. And I think that's the thing about him

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Speaker 3: is that you know no task is overwhelming to him.

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Speaker 3: He's ready for anything. I mean, challenge him. He's going

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Speaker 3: to step up to it. And now that pads have

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Speaker 3: come on, I'm excited to see him in game. I

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Speaker 3: think he's going to be a very, very sure, physical tackler.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get people on the ground quickly

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Speaker 3: in a heartbeat. I don't think there's gonna be much

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Speaker 3: yak against him. I don't think you're gonna see a

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Speaker 3: lot of mistackles.

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Speaker 1: Our final SoundBite in this week's recording is about a

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Speaker 1: crazy stat tight end. Mike Kasicki is in his seventh

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Speaker 1: NFL season. He spent five years in Miami, won in

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Speaker 1: New England. Now he's a Bengal. He has had a

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Speaker 1: different offensive coordinator every single year of his NFL career.

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Speaker 1: One year he had two. Here's Mike Kasiki every year.

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Speaker 9: This time, I'm doing the same thing I'm doing right now.

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Speaker 9: Learn a new offense, learn a new plays, learning new signals.

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Speaker 9: And I mean I was in Miami for five straight years,

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Speaker 9: so it's not like I was changing teams left and right.

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Speaker 9: But there was just a lot of turnover and the

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Speaker 9: staffs over there, and so I will say that I've

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Speaker 9: learned a lot of football because of it. So it's been,

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Speaker 9: it's been. It's been a good experience.

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Speaker 1: So I looked it up. They actually had co offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 9: Technically you could say I had I had eight. Yes,

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Speaker 9: So yeah, my fourth year in Miami we had co

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Speaker 9: offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, it's been.

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Speaker 3: It's been. Uh it's been.

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Speaker 9: An interesting journey to say the least. But uh, like

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Speaker 9: I said.

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Speaker 3: I've learned a lot throughout it, So it's been cool.

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Speaker 1: Explain how difficult it would be to have eight offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinators in seven NFL seasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, you know, there might be some similarity from

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Speaker 3: concept standpoint, but the language can be totally different. You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean this formation and motion and everything attached to

589
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Speaker 3: it was called whatever, and then the next off season

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Speaker 3: you have to unlearn and relearn now it's called this.

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Speaker 3: And then one year you're unlearning relearning coordinators language that

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Speaker 3: that is extremely difficult, and every coordinator has a point

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Speaker 3: of emphasis that's different. You know, I want to emphasize

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Speaker 3: these formations, structures, concepts in the running game and this

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Speaker 3: in the past game. And it might be it's never

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Speaker 3: going to be identical. It's just a matter of how

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Speaker 3: different are they going to be. The one thing that

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Speaker 3: I noticed about him, and he's proven it during the

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Speaker 3: course of his career, is his football IQ. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you have to be able to handle that mentally is

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Speaker 3: a challenge, There's no question about it, no two ways

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Speaker 3: about that. But he's a guy when he's in the

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Speaker 3: you know, detaches and he's in a two point stance upright,

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Speaker 3: he's checking things out and you almost can see like

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Speaker 3: Tumblr clicks, you know, you can see everything just like

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Speaker 3: churning in his brain. And it's almost like he's a

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Speaker 3: quarterback as well, looking at pre snap stuff, making sure

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Speaker 3: that he sees it the same way the quarterback does

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Speaker 3: and he's going to get on the same page. So

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Speaker 3: he is an extremely intelligent football players, very very high

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Speaker 3: football IQ and to do that, to go through that process,

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Speaker 3: I think it shows it. And really, I mean you

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Speaker 3: never hear coaches yelling at him or complaining about assignment bus.

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Speaker 3: So he's getting it, man, He's getting the Bengals system

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Speaker 3: down pad pretty quickly.

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Speaker 6: That's for sure.

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Speaker 1: We've got a preseason game coming up in less than

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Speaker 1: a week. I don't know about you, but I've got

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Speaker 1: some Tampa Bay Buccaneers homework to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely do as well Baker Mayfield. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I definitely have some Tampa Bay. But I know they

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Speaker 3: just paid their left tackle a heck of a lot

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Speaker 3: of money just and worse, man, they're taking care of

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Speaker 3: some organizations. I mean, I just wonder where the counterfeit

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Speaker 3: printing machine is. I mean, they got to be printed somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Saturday's game at pay Course Stadium kicks off at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Our Bengals radio network coverage will begin at five, and

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Speaker 1: among the things to look forward to is a lengthy

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Speaker 1: interview with Joe Burrow that Lap and I recorded a

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Speaker 1: few days ago. Before we get to our next guest,

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Speaker 1: games have included a ruler of the jungle who leads

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Speaker 1: fans in the hooday chant just before kickoff. There have

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Speaker 1: the throne. And there's been one national media member who's

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Speaker 1: become a fan favorite. I caught up with her on

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Speaker 1: a training camp visit to Cincinnati. We are joined by

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Speaker 1: the woman who Chris Collinsworth has proclaimed the Princess of

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Speaker 1: Queen City, our friend, Kay Adams. Here's my question for you.

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Speaker 1: You've got this mutual love affair with Cincinnati and Bengals

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Speaker 1: fans when you are at these other NFL camps to

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Speaker 1: players or coaches get on you about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just came from Pittsburgh, don't orry. I showered

650
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 10: and burned all of my clothing from Latrobe. But I

651
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 10: did not bring anything into this beautiful Cincinnati. But yeah,

652
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 10: oh you're Bengals fan, You're Yeah. Things are a little

653
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 10: more closed off, things are a little more you know, territorial.

654
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 10: But I'll take it. Let's go in the super Bowl

655
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 10: and from everybody wrong, Well.

656
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Thank you for burning the Steelers again, that's much appreciation.

657
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.

658
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: I think this is your eighth stop on a seventeen

659
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: training camp.

660
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 10: Nineteen. Now we added a Falcons and Saints to be

661
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 10: and somehow I don't think my team knows that breaking news.

662
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I see a lot of frowns.

663
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 10: So no, it's so fun. We're having a bust.

664
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: Do you sleep?

665
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 10: Sure? What is divine sleep?

666
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: Do I sleep like more than four hours?

667
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 10: And I got three hours last night? The night before though,

668
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 10: I got five, and then you know, system of average

669
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 10: is about five.

670
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: Is there an intravenous coffee drip?

671
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 10: No, but I need a black coffee before I can

672
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 10: do I am a different person on if I don't

673
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 10: have sleep and I don't have a coffee, so I

674
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 10: have a black coffee. Kat Rogerson my amazing steward. She

675
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 10: sort of like runs my life and I just close

676
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 10: my eyes and she lifts me from place to place.

677
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 10: She always has a coffee from me first thing, so

678
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 10: it's the best. And she's not here in my security.

679
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 10: Wonderful Dan this morning did not hesitate to say do

680
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 10: you need a Starbucks situation? I said please, but yeah,

681
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 10: but then it's like I need it. But then I

682
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 10: get into a facility and then you feel the energy

683
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 10: and the special part about not just the Beangals but

684
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 10: every team. And why I want to visit so many

685
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 10: is because thirty two have optimism. Thirty two teams out

686
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 10: there say right now, we are so healthy, we are

687
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 10: so motivated, we are going to win a super Bowl.

688
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 10: And who does want to be around that.

689
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I love training camp. I love talking to people at

690
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: training camp. It's when they're at their most relaxed. You

691
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: are an awesome interviewer. Think what makes a good.

692
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 10: Interview Curiosity and listening, and that's it. That's probably as

693
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 10: simple as it is. Not adhering, you know, you have

694
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 10: to adhere to your values and you I always My

695
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 10: biggest tip for an interview would be, I'm always driven

696
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 10: by curiosity, but it's what do I want to hear?

697
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 10: What do I want the answer to be? Well, kind

698
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 10: of I'm not not as far as manipulating it, but

699
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 10: how can I frame this question to get the story

700
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 10: that will satiate my curiosity? And the reason I think

701
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 10: I've had success at it in this world is that

702
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 10: I love the NFL. I think that's very clear. I

703
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 10: like celebrating the players, and I think that that helps me.

704
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 10: I have the same curiosity as the fans out there

705
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 10: in the stadium watching the games, and so I asked

706
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 10: the questions they want answers to.

707
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: You finally get your chance to visit with Joe Burrow today.

708
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 10: I don't even believe. I kind of don't believe that

709
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 10: it's your vision. It's been for three years.

710
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, things have gotten in the way when you've been

711
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: here in the past. So it's happening today, it really

712
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: it is. It is. Yep, it's definitely happening.

713
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 10: I'm nervous.

714
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: Do you start with the hair, the backlist jacket? Where

715
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: are you going to begin with with Joe.

716
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 10: If you talk to anybody at UP and Adams, I

717
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 10: have a shelf life in the news cycle. I have

718
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 10: the attention span of about him nat So the second

719
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 10: once that was in the news cycle for twelve hours,

720
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 10: I was done. So I like to move very quickly.

721
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 10: You know, things that are still even trending right now,

722
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 10: I'm like, it's old news. I don't like, what's the

723
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 10: next thing? How do we move it forward? So now

724
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 10: I'm onto you know, Zach Taylor's kids dyeing their hair blonde.

725
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 10: I want to know what that's like. I want to

726
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 10: further the story a little bit. I promise you I

727
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 10: will not I will very unlikely touch the hair the

728
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 10: storyline with him. Where will I start? I don't know.

729
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 10: I think I'll have to sense what his energy is.

730
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 10: I have a feeling he's going to be very serious.

731
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 10: Oh he'll be great, grab but I think he's a serious.

732
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 10: I think he's a serious. Individuals are focused at all times,

733
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 10: right me. No, So we'll see how it goes, hopefully.

734
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 10: You know they say ever to meet your heroes. I

735
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 10: think that's how I'll probably start. You know, how is

736
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 10: he going to impress me? That's what we've talked about.

737
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 10: Now what should I ask him?

738
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: Dan, Shoot, I don't know. You're a great interviewer.

739
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 10: I mean you talked to him all the time, and.

740
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: I just had the chance to do a lengthy interview

741
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: with him the other day and he was great. Here's

742
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: the thing that I find most interesting about Joe, and

743
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: maybe you can get to the heart of this. So,

744
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: whether it's the hair or the past Paris fashion show,

745
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: this dude is the most comfortable in his own skin

746
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: of anybody I think I've ever met. He just does

747
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: not care what other people think. So if you have

748
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: a way of getting at the heart of that, I'd

749
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: be interested to hear it.

750
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 10: I'm not Walter Cronkite, you know, Diane Sawyer, but we'll see.

751
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 10: I'll see what I can do. It's fascinating. Does he

752
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 10: have this sense of comfort now over time? Like you

753
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 10: sort of said, I wanted to focus on football and

754
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 10: now I have it And now you know, does that

755
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 10: mean he's mastered football and can open himself up with

756
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 10: other things like branding or did he always have this

757
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 10: in him and he just now feels like it's time

758
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 10: to step out and let those are clearly artistic I

759
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 10: believe parts of his personality. I would assume sort of

760
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 10: shine and will that be a great thing for him

761
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 10: as a football player or will he be scrutinized for

762
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 10: it even more, which again he doesn't care exactly.

763
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, if he does well on the field,

764
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: nothing else really matters, and he will because he's Joe Burrow.

765
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: He says that people have forgotten him since last year

766
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: because he was injured. He's thirty ninth on the NFL

767
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: Networks Top one hundred list. Give us the national perspective.

768
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Do you think people outside of Cincinnati are kind of

769
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: sleeping on Joe Burrow?

770
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 10: I think it has nothing to do with anything except

771
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 10: for the injury, and it's not I would have to

772
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 10: defend the nation in saying that I believe that all

773
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 10: injured players suffer this that you forget. I was just

774
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 10: with the Patriots. Christian gonzale as the rookie last year,

775
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 10: was on his way to a Rookie of the Year

776
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 10: on defense situation got hurt. So whenever anybody gets hurt,

777
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 10: you do forget them. I don't know if you deserve

778
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 10: that ranking. If you look at his talent level, his

779
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 10: skill level, his success against other AFC opponents. I certainly

780
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 10: you can make the case he should beat top five,

781
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 10: top ten, but I think the injury is all that

782
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 10: it had to do with. And I'm sure that that's

783
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 10: the huge worry and storyline and concern on every defensive

784
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 10: drill and snap out there with him. I'm sure Coach

785
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 10: lou is like easy, he's Trey Hendricks in bad Boy, Like,

786
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 10: I'm sure those things are going on because you do

787
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 10: you know what you just said. You said he will,

788
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 10: He'll be fine because he's Joe Burrow. So few teams

789
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 10: can say that, so few happened. What's happening here is

790
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 10: so special, but it also puts an insurmountable amount of

791
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 10: pressure and stress on one person. Though we did, of

792
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 10: course have success without him last year, which should only

793
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 10: give his team more confidence so they can go and

794
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 10: take it away from Patrick Mahomes. And that's the storyline

795
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 10: of the NFL. This your down, there's no there's cool

796
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 10: raven stuff. That's fine, let's beat them, let's win the division.

797
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 10: But the story for ever, everybody in the AFC just

798
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 10: has to gun for them, not repeating, and that's the story.

799
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: Bero Mahomes sweet too five pick out. I'm there with you.

800
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

801
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: So you had the great Willie Anderson on up and

802
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: Adams several weeks ago, and one of the things that

803
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: he said in your conversation was, I hope the offensive

804
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: lineman play in the preseason, trying to help the Bengals

805
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: avoid a slow start like they've had in the last

806
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: couple of years. Zach Taylor is clearly watching because the

807
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: offensive starters are playing in the preseason opener against Tampa Bay.

808
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: Thank you.

809
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 10: I mean, if Willie says something, you got to do it.

810
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 10: I'm just a conduit. I'm a simple vehicle for these

811
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 10: sort of messages from Ah. That was an insane conversation.

812
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 10: It was one of those pinch me moments. I didn't

813
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 10: know he was going to be there. He was so

814
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 10: gracious with this time, so honest. He has so much

815
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 10: to give. He is so interested in giving everything that

816
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 10: he's learned over his amazing career to younger o lineman.

817
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 10: But I mean this a line. I'm super excited about

818
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 10: these big boys Cincinnati skyline. Let's go just talk to

819
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 10: Orlando bront I'm looking at him literally my neck could

820
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 10: not be further back. And he's one of the shorter

821
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 10: ones here. I asked him, how does Joe Burrows see

822
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 10: over you and he goes, I don't know, man, he

823
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 10: just somehow gets it done. But very excited about that.

824
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 10: I think one of the things that private what's being

825
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 10: slept on. I do think the run game is being

826
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 10: slept on. There's a huge hole. Joe Mixon a big game.

827
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 10: We wish him well, of course, but let's not sleep

828
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 10: on what this duo, this one two punch can do.

829
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 10: And Brown somebody that I think Zach was very measured

830
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 10: and wanting to see more of him when he could,

831
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 10: getting him into action when he could at certain times

832
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 10: when he could last year, to see that and have

833
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 10: confidence that he's the guy, and he clearly assaults this.

834
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 10: So all am I.

835
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: You had Zach moss On up in Adams as well

836
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: after he signed with the Bengals as a free agent.

837
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's kind of a sneaky valuable

838
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: move by the Bengals because that one doesn't seem to

839
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: be getting much juice around the country.

840
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 10: Absolutely, anybody that has experience, you need depth at the

841
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 10: running back spot. We know that I haven't talked to

842
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 10: him since he's been here, but he's always been delightful

843
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 10: and you know, if you come on up in Adams,

844
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 10: you're going to have success. What else can I say?

845
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Are you bumm that you will not see DJ Reader here?

846
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 10: Yeah? If I'm being honest, sure, And I think he's

847
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 10: one of those pieces that's really going to help them

848
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 10: in the NFC over there. I think that he is

849
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 10: a tremendous player. One of the first I would say.

850
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 10: He was the signing that the Bengals made that when

851
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 10: I was on Good Morning Football. I remember when it

852
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 10: came across the desk. I looked at my producer Hamilton

853
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 10: and was like, huh, it's a lot of money. That's

854
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 10: an uncharacteristic sort of like huge paycheck highest pid. And

855
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 10: then we developed a friendship and a kinship. But I

856
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 10: will say there's other personalities here that are you know,

857
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 10: Orlando Brown is no less exciting and fun to talk

858
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 10: to and some of these other amazing pieces. So from

859
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 10: a personality standpoint, I'll miss him. From an energy standpoint, certainly,

860
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 10: but you know, I trust with this what this organization's doing,

861
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 10: and hopefully you'll make me look smart as usual.

862
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: The Bengals tried to keep them, it didn't work out.

863
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: That's where it goes in the NFL exactly. Yeah, it's

864
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: a business. But they did sign Sheldon Rankins, so two

865
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: very different players, but two great players. But a major

866
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: problem last year was stopping the run. Is that one

867
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: of the things that you are going to be trying

868
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: to get at the heart at while you're here at camp,

869
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: trying to find out from Lou and others how they're

870
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: going to do that better.

871
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 10: I have been tracking the Sheldon story for a long time.

872
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 10: I think the departure reader was a huge hole to fill,

873
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 10: and he can fill it. We've seen him have success before.

874
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 10: He's a monster. I've been checking in in my dark

875
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 10: arts ways throughout this process, and I can tell you

876
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 10: that Sheldon is going to do just fine. And yes,

877
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 10: I'm glad you mentioned him because he is somebody who

878
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 10: is obviously going to have a huge role. I know

879
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 10: Lou wants to clean it up. He wants to clean

880
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 10: up especially the run stuffing, and he's the perfect person

881
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 10: to do it. We're all excited.

882
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: So I cover one training camp and it's hard to

883
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: keep track of everybody and all the things going on.

884
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: How do you do it? With thirty two?

885
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 10: I want to thank you for all the work you do,

886
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 10: because I just listened to you truly, so that I'm

887
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 10: up to speed with what's going on all across the country.

888
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 10: How do I keep up? I don't know. I have

889
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 10: a good memory. I guess I'm curious. I think it's

890
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 10: curiosity that sort of propels me. Just the it's so

891
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 10: good for me. You know, there's there's you have national

892
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 10: media people who cover everything, and they don't know what's

893
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 10: going on in the place, and it must be so

894
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 10: frustrating for you especially. You know, it's the tree tops

895
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 10: of the conversations. There's so many and so much information,

896
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 10: but all starts here. It all starts with you know,

897
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 10: I'm sitting with Orlando Brown and there's an energy shift

898
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 10: in him from last year that's imperceptible with a news

899
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 10: article or a podcast, and it's it's to be here

900
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 10: and sense those things in the hallway. That's the gift

901
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 10: that you have and that you receive from this organization.

902
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 10: So if I can get if I could get to

903
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 10: all thirty two, I would in thirty two days. I

904
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 10: would do it in the minute because it matters so

905
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 10: much to me. It sets the table for my entire agenda.

906
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 10: You know, I'm in I'm in New York with Aaron Rodgers,

907
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 10: and whether it's great or not great, I can tell

908
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 10: you a lot of the things that I noticed that

909
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 10: day are going to have an effect two months, three

910
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 10: months from now, you know, me asking about Devanta Adams

911
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 10: will see what happens. All these things sort of get

912
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 10: set in those places. So I don't know, I hop around.

913
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 10: It's similar storylines. I'm drawn to energy. I think I

914
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 10: think it takes energy. I'm drawn to dynamics organizationally between

915
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 10: front office, GM coach, quarterback and receivers. Like here. I

916
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 10: just I saw Jamar Chase here for a second, smiling

917
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 10: walking through got to work out in. I said, I'm

918
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 10: so happy to see you, and he goes, why wouldn't

919
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 10: I be here? I mean, what else could you want?

920
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 10: And I hope people as I cover all thirty two

921
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 10: people in Cincinnati realize how rare that is and to

922
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 10: have Tea say let's go and do this. And I

923
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 10: think you're only getting that because they know that they

924
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 10: can win here, and you're not getting that a lot

925
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 10: of other places because they don't believe that they can

926
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 10: win there. And to have that kind of buy in,

927
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 10: that's the kind of dynamic that I think is super

928
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 10: Bowl bound.

929
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you're very perceptive where Orlando Brown Junior is

930
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: concerned because there is a.

931
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 10: Shift there, something going on there.

932
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so didn't go to the Pro Bowl last year.

933
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: He was an alternate. But he's a proud guy. I

934
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: sense that he's really hungry despite all he has accomplished.

935
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 10: I think he said hungry in our interviews six times,

936
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 10: and I thought I had to do the internet in

937
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 10: fasting that he's been raving about. But it's not that

938
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 10: he told me that he had some I asked him,

939
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 10: I said, how did you free yourself up the things

940
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 10: that are weighing you down, the adversity, because there's a

941
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 10: looseness about you. And he said, I just had a

942
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 10: long conversation with myself about it. And he said that,

943
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 10: and I believe him. I could just tell that there's

944
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 10: something about him where he could just sort of give

945
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 10: it up. And I think that's a huge struggle. You're

946
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 10: looking at other teams, you know, like let's say the

947
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 10: Bills or the Niners having to get off the mat

948
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 10: and say we can do this again as teams, and

949
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 10: then individuals wanting, you know, a better year or want

950
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 10: to to be more supportive. I think he feels more

951
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 10: comfortable and that'll play out really well.

952
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: So you were in Latrobe, Pennsylvania yesterday, Oh gosh, home

953
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: of Steelers camp.

954
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 10: Okay, here comes the light detect or test? Is that

955
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 10: what's happening with what I saw in Latrobe?

956
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Now we will go there, but obviously the AFC North

957
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: is a beast, Baltimore and Cleveland as well. Hard Knocks

958
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: is going to cover the division for the final several

959
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Is it different when you bounce around?

960
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: Do you get a different vibe when you're in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati?

961
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 10: I would say it was my first visit to Latrobe yesterday,

962
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 10: and there is a very overwhelming feeling of purity and

963
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 10: history for the NFL, the Steelers. Sort of it's brazen.

964
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 10: It's right out there for you. Mister Tomlin seems giddy,

965
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 10: which is a weird. I don't know if we're scared

966
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 10: of it? Do we like that? He seems very excited

967
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 10: about his plucking of one. Patrick Queen. I can tell

968
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 10: you that believe he was going to play huge, and

969
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 10: now he's got Minka and TJ. Watt and he's collecting

970
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 10: those infinity stones on defense. Let's see if they can

971
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 10: put it all together. He's excited. You know they've got

972
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 10: nause He's got a lot to prove because he doesn't

973
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 10: have an option picked up, so he's going to be

974
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 10: running very hard out there. So you know they're they're formidable.

975
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 10: I would say the Ravens are you are your team

976
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 10: to beat as far as feeling comfortable in the a

977
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 10: f C and the AFC North, but it should be fun.

978
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 10: It's the toughest division in football, and I don't think

979
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 10: anyone in this building would have it another way.

980
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: My wife doesn't get very excited when I tell her

981
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: who I'm going to interview on a daily basis, But

982
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: when I told her it was going to be you today,

983
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my gosh, I love K. I said,

984
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: you've never met, but you know what you wanted me

985
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: to say?

986
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: Hi?

987
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 10: Anyway, how much hard knocks FaceTime?

988
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: Are you going to get voice time? I'll get a

989
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: lot of voice.

990
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 10: You're not going to just like, you know, show up

991
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 10: in the hallways, you know when the cameras are.

992
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: Maybe they love using those local radio guy clips, which

993
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: is fun.

994
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 10: That'll be great supposed to do it. Yeah, are we

995
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 10: excited about that? Because you know, I feel like and

996
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 10: isn't in the Giants camp in a little bit. I

997
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 10: feel like, I don't know if you I don't know

998
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 10: how much teams. Some teams love it and embrace it,

999
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 10: in other teams not as much.

1000
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm excited about it because it's everybody

1001
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: in the division. See, there's no competitive disadvantage, So I

1002
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: think it'll be great. I'll certainly be watching love that.

1003
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: You're the best.

1004
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 10: You're the best. Thank you, guys, Thank you so much.

1005
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan As I told Kay I think she's a

1006
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: great interviewer, and she talked to several Bengals on her

1007
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: training camp visit, including Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor. If

1008
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: you would like to see those conversations, just search for

1009
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