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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: John Batcheler week Night's nine till midnight, right after Jesse

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Speaker 2: Kelly on seven to ten wor Now It's the Clay,

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Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. The Trump

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Speaker 3: Show is back in earnest. We've got a lot of

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Speaker 3: stories to get to. We will talk about the border.

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Speaker 3: We've got Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton coming on

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Speaker 3: to talk about Title forty two expiring at midnight tonight.

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Speaker 3: What is going to happen down there, Julio ros Rojas,

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Speaker 3: who is also going to be with us from down

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Speaker 3: at the border. Both of those things to come throughout

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Speaker 3: the program. But we begin with what I imagine many

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Speaker 3: of you were doing last night. And I treated this

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Speaker 3: Trump town hall on CNN like it was a sporting event.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I had it set in my phone even yesterday when

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Speaker 3: we were on the program. I was trying to make

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Speaker 3: sure that I knew exactly what time it was going

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Speaker 3: to be on, so I didn't miss a moment. And

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Speaker 3: I think big takeaways off the top was what a

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Speaker 3: monster win for Trump and whoever on his staff got

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Speaker 3: CNN to agree that they would have a town hall

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Speaker 3: filled with Trump supporters and quote undeclared or undecided voters

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Speaker 3: in New Hampshire buck the moment Trump walked out and

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Speaker 3: got a standing ovation, I thought to myself, Oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Collins is like an official or a referee in

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Speaker 3: a game where the home crowd is going to ride

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Speaker 3: her in earnest. I thought this was a monster win

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Speaker 3: for Trump. Whatever you think about what Trump said the

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Speaker 3: town hall, and we will certainly dive into many of

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Speaker 3: those different answers, what I would say is, and I

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Speaker 3: tweeted this, and I believe Trump ended up sharing it

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Speaker 3: from truth Social that hour plus that he spent on

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Speaker 3: CNN in the Belly of the Beast, in the UH,

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Speaker 3: in the in the Lions Cage, effectively.

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Speaker 1: With CNN throwing everything they had at him.

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Speaker 3: There is absolutely no way on the planet that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden would be capable of sitting with c and with

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Speaker 3: with maybe with CNN and MSNBC where they just gave

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Speaker 3: him softballs. But if you really put let's say, somebody

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Speaker 3: to go after him on Fox News, like Caitlin Collins

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Speaker 3: went after Trump. I don't believe Biden would still be

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Speaker 3: able to be president after an hour that heck buck.

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Speaker 3: We've said this before. If Joe Biden came on our

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Speaker 3: would have him on, just like we had RFK Junior on.

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Speaker 3: I think at the end of that hour, with us

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Speaker 3: asking him questions, the number one thing people would be saying,

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Speaker 3: who are reasonable and rational, is there's no way this

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Speaker 3: guy can remain president. And I thought Trump, whether you

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Speaker 3: love him or hate him, he came in. He took

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Speaker 3: was an overwhelming win for Trump and his campaign to

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Speaker 3: be reelected in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So the town hall was supposed to be a ninety

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Speaker 2: minute broadcast. I saw that, and they thought it would

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Speaker 2: This was out last night from a couple of reporters,

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Speaker 2: so it seems like they wanted to walk off the

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Speaker 2: field as quickly.

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Speaker 1: They threw in the towel like in a boxing match.

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Speaker 2: They had had enough, they were done.

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Speaker 4: It's fascinating the setup here.

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Speaker 2: First of all, yes, I think because people are arguing

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Speaker 2: this two ways. On the one hand, the CNN faithful,

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Speaker 2: whatever you think of them, are disgusted by this whole phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: They're disgusted with CNN.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: They're they're furious that CNN and you even see. You

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Speaker 2: know what's the hard left position on this, it's why

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Speaker 2: did you platform him? Why did you platform the leading

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Speaker 2: Republican contender, which just goes to show you their plan

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Speaker 2: is to silence. Their plan is never to engage and

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Speaker 2: actually battle it out in the realm of ideas. But

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Speaker 2: beyond that, if you're just looking at this in terms

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Speaker 4: Trump can handle that.

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Speaker 2: He anywhere, right, Gonna be an ambush because I assumed

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Speaker 2: it would be a mixed politically crowd of some some

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Speaker 2: quote Democrats who are just you know, anti Trump and

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is like CNN went out.

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Speaker 2: Island Republicans are a staunch bunch.

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Speaker 2: Put all of them in the crowd and we're like, hey, so, uh,

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Speaker 4: You know, I guess this one was this one in

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Speaker 4: Oh sorry it was.

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Speaker 2: It was in New hamsrew still Nasau County, same idea.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the redist county in New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: and they're all and and uh rather they're they're asking

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Speaker 2: the questions and you're sitting here thinking what is the

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Speaker 2: win for CNN in this process? You have a crowd

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Speaker 2: that is cheering on Trump, you have a an anchor

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Speaker 2: who has never done anything like this before. And let

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Speaker 2: me say, interviewing Trump when you're on team Trump, Let's

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Speaker 2: be honest, like interviewing Trump when you're a supporter. You

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Speaker 2: know when the bear is loose. You're not putting the

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Speaker 2: go yep. She is trying to from the other side,

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Speaker 2: from the other team, not just you know, get some

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Speaker 2: questions in to shape the interview. She's trying to, you know,

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Speaker 3: And the other thing to think about from Caitlyn. So,

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people went after Caitlyn Collins,

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Speaker 3: so they had certainly in her ear, a team of

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Speaker 3: fact checkers at CNN furiously sitting in front of their laptops,

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Speaker 3: you know, trying to feed her information to blow up Trump.

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Speaker 3: And I thought that Trump again right into the lions Den.

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Speaker 1: This is what so many people want.

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Speaker 3: They want an unapologetic defense of Republican policies. Now, I

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Speaker 3: didn't think Trump was perfect. I said afterwards, it's a

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Speaker 3: we can have an interesting conversation about if you went

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Speaker 3: back and watched the tape, Right, you win a game.

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Speaker 3: Trump won the game, and he dominated the game, and

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Speaker 3: it was not particularly close. Right, But even when you

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Speaker 3: know what, when we got this question, we could in

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Speaker 3: the game film. There are opportunities I thought where he

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Speaker 3: I think of Ron DeSantis, he basically was already running

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Speaker 4: So that's the part of this that that feels disjointing.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't really make much sense from, you know, the

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Speaker 2: CNN perspective. Their audience is mad at them for even

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Speaker 2: having Trump. Trump got to just do his thing up there,

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Speaker 2: and and he's super I mean, he's super entertaining.

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Speaker 4: It's an enormous advantage.

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Speaker 2: Whatever someone thinks of Trump, it's an enormous advantage to

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Speaker 2: It all rolls off him. But the other part of

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Speaker 2: no issues that are being fought out, not that there's

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Speaker 2: the primary, but no issues that are being fought out

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Speaker 2: in the primary were really the focus. Like all Republicans

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Speaker 2: specific things. So you didn't get into some of the

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Speaker 4: They ran a.

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Speaker 2: It was a town hall for the general election, run

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Speaker 4: And it just.

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Speaker 2: Feels like the whole vision of this was strange from

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Speaker 2: doesn't really change. There was no one's changing their mind.

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Speaker 2: But it was entertaining for us to see Trump to

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Speaker 4: So it was a little off in some ways.

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Speaker 2: In terms of what is this really, what's the focus

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Speaker 2: just wanted to have a CNN attack on Trump that

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Speaker 3: To me, the CNN move was we are willing to

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Speaker 3: on for I think the town hall. I think that

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Speaker 1: I also think they.

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Speaker 3: Believed that they would elevate because news also came out

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Speaker 3: believe that news broke because we were texting about it

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Speaker 3: going to be their new host. But what struck me

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Speaker 3: over and over again, and I don't think it gets

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Speaker 3: enough attention is Trump is probably the best television president

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Speaker 3: that we have had since Reagan. And what I think

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Speaker 3: so it's not a surprise that someone who has made

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Speaker 3: particularly skilled, a droit able to use television in a

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Speaker 3: way that advances his message so succinctly and so perfectly.

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Speaker 3: Trump came to television later in life, and obviously with

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Speaker 3: The Apprentice and everything else, but my goodness, when he

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Speaker 3: reached into his jacket and pulled out his own like

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Speaker 3: I've been a creature of the media though as long

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Speaker 3: as we've been alive. He is so theatrical in understanding

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Speaker 3: what makes good television, and it was so compelling and

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Speaker 3: almost impossible to look away. Now eight hundred and eight

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Speaker 3: I'm sure many of you had them as well. In

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Speaker 3: terms of did it actually change anything, I think it's

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Speaker 3: such an interesting question because Buck, you and I know

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Speaker 3: can we get attacked all the time in media too,

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Speaker 3: And when I first started off in media, it was

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Speaker 3: really upsetting sometimes to get attacked, And then I realized

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Speaker 3: what Trump has said, Sometimes all publicity is good publicity

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Speaker 5: I did finish the wall. I built a wall. I

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Speaker 2: It kind of sounded a little bit Clay like, like

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Speaker 3: We're reacting to and we'll take some of your calls

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Speaker 3: here's what I would say. I loved his answer on Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: But listen to this.

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Speaker 8: His lie about the twenty twenty election stuff ballot boxes,

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Speaker 8: Does it bother you that he keeps talking about twenty

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Speaker 8: How do you feel about those lines?

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Speaker 3: So I feel like part of it's also the media narrative,

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Speaker 8: So don't you think he can say it's time for

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Speaker 2: running that panel was. It's so clear that they look

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Speaker 2: CNN feels strongest in dealing with Trump by arguing over

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty because the CNN audience, particularly now, there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of non cnnb I was watching, I was

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Speaker 2: watching that was the first I just realized that was

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Speaker 2: the first time last night I've watched a live CNN

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Speaker 2: broadcast for more than five minutes since Biden's been president.

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Speaker 1: I think, oh, certainly for me too. That's what I

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Speaker 1: was talking about yesterday. Buck.

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Speaker 3: I don't know when the numbers will officially come out,

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Speaker 3: maybe during the course of this program today. I bet

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Speaker 3: it'll be the most watched CNN event now obviously when

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Speaker 3: Ukraine happens, big breaking news story, but actually programming they

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Speaker 3: originate in years.

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Speaker 2: I think it's funny to everyone's saying, oh, Chris licked

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Speaker 2: everyone's you know, it's so awful. CNN's ratings are already

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Speaker 2: in the toilet, everybody. It's not like he's it's not

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Speaker 2: like he's protecting the golden goose here or should be,

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Speaker 2: and he's he's messed things up by doing this. If anything,

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Speaker 2: it needs a big shake up like what they've seen.

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Speaker 2: The willingness to have Trump on. You asked though about

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Speaker 2: how this goes into Grand Slam territory. You know, I

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Speaker 2: think that at some level they were able to Yes,

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Speaker 2: they were the they meaning Caitlin and and the questions

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Speaker 2: that were selected get Trump talking about a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff in the past.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's fair. I think that audience member put

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Speaker 4: it really well.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you guys are forcing but do that,

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Speaker 2: but more of the vision for the future would have been,

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Speaker 2: you know again, we're going home run to Grand Slam.

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Speaker 2: I think that takes us from you know, B plus

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Speaker 2: a minus to a level performance if you maybe think

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Speaker 2: you got a nay anyway, But if you're gonna try

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Speaker 2: to see one area where I think there could have

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Speaker 2: been a bigger win for Trump. Everyone you know it's

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Speaker 2: a win for Trump because all the limbs are crying

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Speaker 2: about it, But there are a couple of places where

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Speaker 2: I think he really hit it. You're on Ukraine, because

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Speaker 2: that's what I've been saying. We've been saying that on

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Speaker 2: the show. They should just be trying to end this

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Speaker 2: war as fast as possible. I've said here Clay, people

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Speaker 2: can go back and listen to the beginning of the

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Speaker 2: Ukraine War.

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Speaker 4: I said.

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Speaker 2: People are underestimating the Russian war machine, underestimating the Russian's

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Speaker 2: ability to endure casualties, their desire to see this through

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Speaker 2: and through to the very end. This will end up

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Speaker 2: costing not billions, not hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars

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Speaker 2: in US AID. That is increasingly obvious, I think to

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Speaker 2: anyone who's looking at this. Whereas the Ukraine Flag Committee

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Speaker 2: that's out there all the time of oh, I've got

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Speaker 2: five Ukraine flags in my Twitter bio, they think that

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Speaker 2: somehow we're going to beat Russia through the proxy army

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Speaker 2: of Ukraine. It's not gonna happen, not any time soon.

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Speaker 2: Now about of casualties and investment, that's one area when

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Speaker 2: he says, now, would you be able to end it

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Speaker 2: in a day? I mean, that's Trump being Trump. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's trying to sell the idea a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: I do think that he would focus on negotiating an

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Speaker 2: end to the conflict because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I don't care who's in control of Crimea, and I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of this audience doesn't care whether Crimea

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Speaker 2: has a Russian Federation flag or a Ukrainian flag. By

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Speaker 2: the way, it's been a Russian Federation flag since before

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Speaker 2: Biden came to office. The other area that when he

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Speaker 2: said drill, baby, drill on the economy, taking the energy

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Speaker 2: fight to the other side. This is one of the

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Speaker 2: places where they are weakest. And this is one of

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Speaker 2: the areas where when people understand the increase in all

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Speaker 2: costs and the role that Remember the Biden administration was

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Speaker 2: saying that this was the major cause of inflation, not

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Speaker 2: not really the spending, which is not true, but it

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Speaker 2: has a role in inflation, energy production and making America,

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Speaker 2: making America great at energy again, but making America embrace

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Speaker 2: the role of we need to be number one at

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Speaker 2: fossil fuel production by far.

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Speaker 4: We need to be the place. We need to be

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Speaker 4: beating Saudi Arabia, Russia, everybody else.

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Speaker 2: In that realm by as long, you know, whatever the

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Speaker 2: numbers are now, by as much as is technologically possible

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Speaker 2: in this country. That would do more for the wealth

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Speaker 2: of the average American and more for the stability of

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Speaker 2: the dollar. By the way, energy at home very important

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Speaker 2: for us, very good for our productivity.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at what the Russians have been able.

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Speaker 2: To do against all the banking sanctions and everything else.

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Speaker 2: Energy is money, I'm your oil gas. This is money,

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Speaker 2: and it's global currency. It's something that everybody needs. So

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Speaker 2: that was one of Trump's best points or best moments,

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Speaker 2: when he's talking about we got to get back to

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Speaker 2: an energy economy that really is going all cylinders, all.

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Speaker 1: Out agree on that.

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Speaker 3: Also, what Caitlin Collins was trying to get him to

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Speaker 3: do was actually make it more difficult in the war

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Speaker 3: because he if he says, oh, I want Ukraine to

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Speaker 3: be the winner, or if I think that Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 3: is a war criminal, why would you ever allow that

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Speaker 3: into the war Here's where I would say Caitlin asked

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Speaker 3: a lot of questions and she was aggressive against him.

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Speaker 3: As a CNN anchor, you would expect would be just

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Speaker 3: like an MSNBC anchor would be. Here to me, is

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Speaker 3: the question that Trump has to answer, because when he

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Speaker 3: talks about twenty twenty being and a rigged election to

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Speaker 3: the point of there being millions of illegal votes, that's

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Speaker 3: his alleiation as a voter. If I'm sitting out there

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Speaker 3: right now listening to Trump make that argument. The logical

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Speaker 3: extension of that is you believed they cheated in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty to put Joe Biden in office.

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Speaker 1: Many of our listeners out there believe that as well.

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Speaker 3: If you believe that's true, why would they not cheat

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four two? And this is why Buck,

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Speaker 3: we've talked about this sum It actually is an ultimately

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Speaker 3: defeating both past and future argument, in my opinion, to

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Speaker 3: argue that they rigged the election, because if you keep

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Speaker 3: doing that right, and I mean rig the election in

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Speaker 3: terms of millions of voters, then my natural inclination is

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Speaker 3: why would they not just do it in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four to two? And so I think where Trump needs

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Speaker 3: to pivot here is say things have changed since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: We have strengthened voting rules in many different parts of

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Speaker 3: the country. And I think this is significant too. Elon

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Speaker 3: Musk owning Twitter means that a Hunter Biden like story

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Speaker 3: would not be able to be buried as much.

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Speaker 1: So he needs to pivot.

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Speaker 3: Towards also saying Joe Biden has been so awful that

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Speaker 3: even Biden voters won't show up. That's what's going to change, right,

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that argument. That's the essence of what

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Speaker 3: he has to explain.

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Speaker 4: This is one thing we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: When we did Patrick bet David's podcast, which was great,

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Speaker 2: Clay and I sat down with him. He's got a

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Speaker 2: big audience, and it was what's different now versus twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty because there are some areas where it's more challenging.

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Speaker 2: Trump's not the incumbent, and I think that often gets

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Speaker 2: left out of us. In twenty twenty he was Now

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Speaker 2: he would not be, So that's not obviously insurmountable, but

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Speaker 2: it's you're you know, you're ice skating up hill a

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Speaker 2: little bit on that one, right, and then also the

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Speaker 2: focus the Democrat. I was gonna say Trump card. It's funny, yeah,

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Speaker 2: how to avoid it. But okay, the Trump card that

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Speaker 2: they have against him in their minds with independence, not

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Speaker 2: with any of you who are not independence listening this.

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Speaker 2: We have some independence to listen. But with independence and

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Speaker 2: swing voters is all January sixth stuff. They think that

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Speaker 2: that plus the legal wrangling means that dementiapation, Biden and

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Speaker 2: all the rest of the stuff and the weak economy

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Speaker 2: isn't going to move the needle enough. That is their

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Speaker 2: game plan. When Trump talks about election security, when Trump

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Speaker 2: talks about how things have changed and and this time around,

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Speaker 2: is that why he can get it done this time around?

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Speaker 2: I think that's the critical question that he has an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to answer, that he has to answer in.

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Speaker 4: Order to get those swing Because it's great.

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Speaker 2: We have these elections with billions and billions of dollars

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Speaker 2: of money spent on consultants and media and.

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Speaker 4: TV buys and you know, online.

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Speaker 2: And the election is almost certainly going to come down

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Speaker 2: to about one hundred thousand votes.

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Speaker 4: In about four or five states.

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Speaker 1: That's the reality.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the.

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Speaker 2: Reality of what we've I mean, look at twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: look at twenty twenty. So it's going to be one

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Speaker 2: of those things that I think we can all see coming,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to come down to the margins in

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Speaker 2: a lot of these places. All Right, we'll come back

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Speaker 2: in a second. I want to hear from you. I

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Speaker 2: know you all have a lot of thoughts on what

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Speaker 2: happened last night. Eight hundred to eight to eight A

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Speaker 2: two and also the tallest radio host in America, Jesse Kelly,

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Speaker 2: will be joining us in a little bit here to

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Speaker 1: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We are taking some

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Speaker 2: calls here, but just let you know we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to our friend Jesse Kelly in a few minutes about

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Speaker 2: his reactions to last night, where.

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Speaker 4: He sees this whole election going.

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Speaker 2: And probably some other things too. Clay just told me

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Speaker 2: there's breaking news here that Stephen Miller's group.

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Speaker 4: We Stephen on yesterday the day before.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember this week right, a week Monday, maybe I.

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Speaker 4: Think it was Monday.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Miller, formerly of the Trump White House, his group

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Speaker 2: America first legal suing for the manifesto out of Nashville

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Speaker 2: of the trans Terrorist. This needed to be done. So

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Speaker 2: I'm glad someone's going to force this to get out finally.

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Speaker 2: And I think we all know some of what at

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Speaker 2: least is going to be in there. But we said

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take calls, and yesterday we just blew through

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Speaker 2: because we got so fired up at everything. We want

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Speaker 2: to get to calls today. Let's start with Jordan in

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Jordan, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Guys? Ain't gonna hold it against you. Didn't take no

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Speaker 6: calls on Friday either, rolls on hope for an hour

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Speaker 6: and a half.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, We're sorry, Jordan. And I'm in Sola tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I promised lots of calls tomorrow too, Jordan.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, I used to hang up immediately on

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Speaker 3: anyone who complained about waiting too long, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: give you a pass here. Uh, but we'll try to

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Speaker 3: get to as many as we can.

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Speaker 1: What you got, hey, brother?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I ain't mean no offense by that, brother, but

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Speaker 6: my thing is with everything about Trump. Last night, he

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Speaker 6: did a great job, just like he always does. But

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Speaker 6: if the midterms have taught us anything and polling is,

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Speaker 6: like y'all said, there's not that many changeable minds. And

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Speaker 6: I understand that these are fighting words, but I mean

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Speaker 6: every one of them. The Trump primary voter that refuses

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Speaker 6: to think about anyone else is the Republican equivalent of

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Speaker 6: a Democrat that rides in a car along with a

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Speaker 6: mask on, like you just you refuse to look at

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Speaker 6: any of the other poles that say de Santis absolutely

682
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Speaker 6: destroys Biden when it comes to independence, when it comes

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Speaker 6: to women and people, that Trump just isn't going to

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Speaker 6: be able to pull across the ouse.

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Speaker 4: So joy, can I say, Jordan, we always have to

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Speaker 4: add this proviso. He was the first call on the list.

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Speaker 4: You heard it.

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Speaker 2: He was waiting an hour and a half the other

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Speaker 2: day to come on. We did because Jordan, you know

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Speaker 2: what happens anytime someone says anything that is critical of Trump.

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Speaker 4: We get this word that we're stacking.

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Speaker 2: We sit here, really, I swear to you, although I

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Speaker 2: did have it, thank you Jordan for calling in Clay,

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Speaker 2: I did have somebody tweet at me yesterday, he's in

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Speaker 2: the tank for Trump, he needs to stop. And then

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Speaker 2: the person responded, no, bucks in the tank for Dasantis,

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Speaker 2: And I said, I should just screenshot this because apparently we're.

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Speaker 4: In the tank for both of them simultaneously.

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Speaker 3: I'm totally I've told you this. I am totally used

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Speaker 3: to this because this is sports. Yeah, when you talk

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Speaker 3: about Alabama Auburn, or you talk about Ohio State Michigan

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Speaker 3: or Red Sox Yankees. If you say one positive thing

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Speaker 3: about one side, the other side immediately comes in. And

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Speaker 3: it's like, I knew all You've been an Auburn fan

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Speaker 3: your whole life.

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Speaker 1: You've been waiting for this.

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Speaker 4: Clay's got an Auburn shrine at home.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting around like you think. And I

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Speaker 1: used to have fun with it.

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Speaker 3: I was like you think that I've been doing sports

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Speaker 3: talk radio for fifteen years and I just pretended to

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Speaker 3: not like Auburn until this year. And then suddenly I

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Speaker 3: just emerged like I'm a sleeper.

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Speaker 2: Cell Off is like the Russian the Soviet KGB. You're

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Speaker 2: a You're a deep sleeper agent. No, guys, that's definitely

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Speaker 2: not is what is going on, and I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think I would like to establish this ground rule, like

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was an excellent president, and I think can

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Speaker 2: be an excellent president again. And so far, Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: has been a phenomenal governor of Florida.

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Speaker 4: And we'll see if he announces, and we'll see how

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Speaker 4: all this plays out.

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Speaker 2: Like, you don't have to hate anybody, you know, you

724
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Speaker 2: can love. You can love more than one Republican actually,

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Speaker 2: and you can make your choice when the choice comes due.

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Speaker 2: Let's get Scott in Indianapolis. Scott, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, keep up the good work. I am I'm

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Speaker 7: a firm believer that the country has managed, for the

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Speaker 7: most part, managed governed for the most part by the media.

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Speaker 7: And if you don't win, if you're the if you're

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Speaker 7: if you're conservative Republicans, and you don't win the propaganda battles,

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Speaker 7: you're certainly going to lose the war. And I think

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Speaker 7: last night Trump was a super example of fighting back

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Speaker 7: with the media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they went at Scott. I think we just we

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Speaker 4: can totally agree with you.

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Speaker 2: They went, that's right in Trump's kitchen. That's showing up

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Speaker 2: in the kitchen where Trump is head chef and saying

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Speaker 2: that you know you want to make the meal. He's

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Speaker 2: going to run the show. He's going to get it done,

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Speaker 2: and he did last night. I just want to get

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Speaker 2: to one more call here, Philip in Houston, Philip, what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 7: Hey Cley. But thanks to take by call.

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Speaker 4: Thanks listen.

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Speaker 9: I'm I'm thinking that uh Trump's Trump actually hit a

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Speaker 9: home run with a couple of RBIs involved, not just

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Speaker 9: the Grand Slam. However, what I'm looking at is that

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Speaker 9: he had one one goal, one thing he had accomplished

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Speaker 9: to show that he wasn't too old, yeah, that he

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Speaker 9: was not Biden, that he can take hardball questions and

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Speaker 9: still foul some mom stay in the game, not strike out,

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Speaker 9: and still hit a home run when he had to.

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Speaker 6: I thought that's what he did last night.

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Speaker 3: He was phenomenal. I think that's the biggest takeaway. This

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00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: was a home run performance by Trump, and I think

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Speaker 3: this is what we open the show with.

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Speaker 1: If you're out there, is there.

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Speaker 3: Anyone on the planet that believes that Joe Biden could

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Speaker 3: go toe to toe with someone at Fox News who

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Speaker 3: was trying to do what Caitlin Collins was trying to

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Speaker 3: do to Trump and emerge after an hour, and you

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Speaker 3: would think this guy still has a fastball, this guy

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Speaker 3: still has a home run swing.

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Speaker 2: Got to push you on this clay right now, you

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Speaker 2: make the call.

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Speaker 4: Is Biden, assuming Trump.

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Speaker 2: Is the nominee, which is highly likely, Is Biden even

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Speaker 2: going through debating?

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Speaker 3: No, I think again, he'll use this platforming argument to

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Speaker 3: say he's going to spread so many lies.

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Speaker 1: I can't allow it to happened. We agree on this.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he I think he ducks a debate,

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Speaker 2: which I know everyone says, Oh my gosh, that would

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Speaker 2: be unprecedented. Yeah, kind of like criminally prosecuting your main

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Speaker 2: political opponent.

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Speaker 4: Unprecedented