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Speaker 4: don't know if we need an introduction song. I think

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Speaker 1: Could we do that, dude? We gotta do that. Any

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Speaker 4: But I do think we need some sort of hip hop.

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Speaker 4: Can imagine if we had like break your neck by

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Speaker 4: bussa Ron's just leading into the show how fired Off?

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Speaker 4: I'd be hard time keeping my body still as ease.

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Speaker 4: It is Monday, the twentieth A Match twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: It's episode three hundred and ninety seven. I believe the

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Speaker 4: end Comploring Podcast. You're all dressed up, You're wearing a

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Speaker 4: collared shirt. You and I don't necessarily put a collar

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Speaker 4: on unless there's a reason. Is there a reason for

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Speaker 4: the collared shirt?

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Speaker 1: Not really? Look, I just swatted to wear something, not

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Speaker 1: in a little collared shirt. Run out of T shirts.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You're a pretty fashion forward guy, always have been dating

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Speaker 4: to when I met you two thousand and seven. Does

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Speaker 4: your wife ever get on you for dressing too casually?

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Speaker 4: My daughters and my wife get on me constantly for

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Speaker 4: dressing too casually. I don't want to show anybody the

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Speaker 4: bottom half right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with two kids and two dogs, I

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Speaker 1: think we've were both in that boat of dressing two casually.

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Speaker 1: We were just like, we don't care anymore, we're busy whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's about comfort, about company.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot to get to today. We will talk

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Speaker 4: to Forrest Griffin, we will talk to Ray Longo. So

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Speaker 4: many layers to get to on UFC two to eighty

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Speaker 4: six and a lot of fights in a lot of

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Speaker 4: close rounds, but all hail Leon Edwards, the still UFC

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Speaker 4: welterweight champion, and we get so bogged down and scorecards

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Speaker 4: and close fights and everything else. But I just have

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Speaker 4: to say, watching that championship fight in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: I feel like these are the two best welterweights in

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Speaker 4: the world, and Leon Edwards won that championship fight, whether three, two,

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Speaker 4: four to one point deduction everything else, I felt like

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Speaker 4: Leon Edwards largely controlled the dance, landed the more consequential shots,

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Speaker 4: and leveled up twenty to thirty percent and probably needed

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Speaker 4: every bit of it to beat the other worldly Kamara

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Speaker 4: Usman John.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly how I saw it. You know, I can't

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Speaker 1: say that I picked Leon Edwards with one hundred percent confidence,

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Speaker 1: back a complete different fighter, with a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: confidence heading into that fight. But you know, confidence is

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Speaker 1: an interesting thing. They say it's difficult to attain but

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Speaker 1: think he was affected. I don't think Kamara was affected

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Speaker 1: I think I saw in Uzman that kind of was

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Speaker 1: getting away from what he does best. I don't think

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Edwards had done his homework. He was composed,

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Speaker 1: he was ice cold throughout that fight, and man was

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Speaker 1: he clean. He was hitting some beautiful counters and I

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Speaker 1: think that took away the confidence of Kamara Uzman. But

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Speaker 1: for me, there was the strike of the fight, or

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Speaker 1: It took away his confidence. And Uzman was close in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought rounds four and five were exceedingly close.

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Speaker 4: I really delayed in writing down a scorecard in round four.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, if you didn't see what I

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to hear that again. But I wanted

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Speaker 4: to watch it from that perspective because you can certainly

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Speaker 4: trash my scorecard on the broadcast, and sometimes when I

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Speaker 4: come here and talk to you, the scorecard matters. I

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Speaker 4: do feel like if Husman was Caucasian, Kenny, you would

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Speaker 4: have heard us really talking about the inside of his

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad to hear you mention that. I don't

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Speaker 4: to place a bodykick. But like Leon didn't miss, and

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Speaker 4: he didn't hit the elbow, and he didn't hit the shoulder.

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Speaker 4: He just kept hitting the body and right on the

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Speaker 4: certainly I feel like he's got to be the best

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Speaker 1: Dude. He was an absolute sniper. No wasted not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of wasted movement. Everything was taking great effect.

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Speaker 1: And I think we saw that. You know, the altitude

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Speaker 1: but still everything he threw was with the purpose. Everything

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Speaker 1: also what was brilliant about what he did was his

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Speaker 1: dominated the competition time and time again. But what he

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Speaker 4: Risk control was outstanding, and you got to have the

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Speaker 4: really trying to watch every strike. Gilbert Melendez said on

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Speaker 4: the postfight show that kamar Usman was hesitant, and you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was hesitant as they were fighting,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think it was something that he necessarily

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Speaker 1: On a few of those shots. There was a kick,

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Speaker 1: it's never good to get knocked out, and when a

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Speaker 1: rarely do we see them the same. You know, you

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Speaker 1: and perhaps that father time and wear and tear is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he looked a little bit slower. And

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Speaker 4: again there was a lot of good in kamar Usman.

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Speaker 4: I scored this fight a draw when I watched it back.

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Speaker 1: I really did.

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Speaker 4: But I do think I could have swung round four

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Speaker 4: But largely I did think this was Leon Edwards's fight,

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Speaker 4: just the way I felt like it was Islamikashev's fight

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Speaker 4: And I know people disagree with that, but I did

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Speaker 4: have written down, Kenny, Yes, there was one big jab

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Speaker 4: memory serves, there was a big Leon Edwards shot that

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Speaker 4: I know of the criteria right now in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: So congrats to Edwards. Usman's thirty five years of age.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if Usman would have gone out

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Speaker 4: of the sport depending on a different result here, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: but he is one of the ultimate competitors. He is

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Speaker 4: one of the all time greats, and even if he

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Speaker 4: isn't a prime kamar Usman anymore. And I shouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 4: say that because many people believe he beat Leon Edwards

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Speaker 4: on this night but he don't want to go out

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Speaker 4: like this. Kenny, So, what are your thoughts before we

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Speaker 4: get into all the leon stuff on Kamar Usman, totality

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Speaker 4: of this performance and the former champion moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Usman, you know, it was a close fight.

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Speaker 1: To me, it really wasn't terribly close, but I thought

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Speaker 1: it was clear for Edwards. But anyways, for Usman, I

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Speaker 1: thought he came in, you know, with the right mindset.

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Speaker 1: He was saying the right things that see. To me,

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Speaker 1: I thought he performed extremely well. I think the big thing,

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Speaker 1: and it's something he's been dealing with for a very

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Speaker 1: long time, is the health of his body, particularly his knees,

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Speaker 1: and as you get older, you're going to have more

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Speaker 1: injuries that are going to pile up. This isn't a

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Speaker 1: guy who is coming to mix martial arts fresh. He's

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Speaker 1: been doing wrestling his whole life. That takes its toll

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Speaker 1: on your body. Uzman a very physical guy, but that

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Speaker 1: your body says, well, we're going to slow down a

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Speaker 1: and that's just the unfortunate reality. But yeah, you look

434
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: at the numbers, what he's done. Ball has done everything,

435
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: everything possible to be in that spot right now and

436
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: does he deserve it, absolutely, But that is always open

437
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: to when you have an organization that is looking at

438
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: other factors besides numbers.

439
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

440
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 4: Now let me say this as well, Colby Covington is

441
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: must see television.

442
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: Now.

443
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 4: I can't speak to his activity inactivity or fights that

444
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 4: he has been offered or turned down, or opportunities on

445
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 4: the Ultimate Fighter that is out of my lane. But yes,

446
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 4: seeing him fight Leon Edwards gets me very excited promotionally

447
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 4: as a commentator, and I do believe that he does

448
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 4: have some merit, you know, as far as his strength

449
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 4: of schedule, the fact that kamar Usman is the only

450
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: guy to beat him, the nature of some of his

451
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 4: wins does have the win over Mosfital, even though it

452
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: was a long time ago, and that's a relevant win.

453
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. Colby Covington right now minus one

454
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: thirty five the betting favorite against Leon Edwards. Any early

455
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 4: lean for you as to that matchup, I mean, it's

456
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 4: a fascinating, fascinating championship fight.

457
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: Colby and Edwards. I'll say this. I think that Uzman

458
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: does everything better than Colby. Think that he's a better wrestler,

459
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: He's a bigger guy. I think he strikes better. I

460
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: don't know if his conditioning is necessarily better. That would

461
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 1: be an edge and something that Colbe could weaponize against

462
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: someone like Edwards perhaps, But I think beating Usman in

463
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: the manner that he did, in the efficient manner that

464
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: he did, I think sets him up perfectly to face

465
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: someone like Colby Covington. But one thing is for sure,

466
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: Edwards better be ready for twenty five minutes of hell.

467
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: Does it mean you know he's not going to be

468
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: more technical? That's fine, but you know, just like a

469
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: Morob duala Jvilli, Colby Covington has that capability as well,

470
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: no doubt about it.

471
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Speaker 4: Probably the only guy who you can even mention and

472
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 4: that may Rob Dwallace Willie conversation. Another guy who's got

473
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: outstanding cardio and if I know him, probably got ninety

474
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: minutes in either strength training or Staremaster this morning, joining

475
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Speaker 4: us for the first time in a long time friend

476
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Speaker 4: of the show, if I.

477
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Speaker 1: Can call him that heat.

478
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: How are you, brother, I've not worked out today, so

479
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: I feel I feel horrible now. I'm coming off with

480
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 3: pretty bad knee injury, so I've just let myself go.

481
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for bringing it up and starting this conversation off

482
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: in a really.

483
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 4: Positive you know I Hey, I mean I didn't wear

484
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: my yellow watch that you denigrated on our Toyot Tires

485
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 4: commercial shoot. And I've already offended you one. I didn't

486
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: even ask you a question. I've already offended you. So

487
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: it's great to see you, brother, and we appreciate the time.

488
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 4: And of course you're early, and I know it's a

489
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 4: busy Monday for you. And uh, it's amazing how your

490
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 4: work ethic just seemingly has extended to this next professional career.

491
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 4: But drill weekend at the Savannah National Guard Base earlier

492
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: this month, see, I do my fucking homework for us.

493
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Speaker 1: That's where we're starting today.

494
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 3: You're the man you do. You do so much some more,

495
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 3: you did DC some work too, according to.

496
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: Yet that's not true.

497
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: But hey, I did see your twitter feed and I

498
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 4: saw some of the videos from what your experience, and

499
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: so tell us about that if you would be so caught.

500
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: Well. First off, the Air National Guard, I don't know

501
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: what their deal is. Maybe they're not that bright because

502
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: they let me drive shooting machine guns. They put me

503
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: in live like in a plane that was actually on fire,

504
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: and they really depended on being a lot for my

505
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 3: own safety, which surprised me and I actually did burn

506
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: my ear a bit. You really got to put those

507
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: things up right. Wow, the regular just stuck out too far.

508
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: They know, they know you're a survivor, like you could

509
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: throw forests in.

510
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: Anything, and he's going to be fright shooting guns and

511
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: throwing flashbangs and just super cool stuff. They did not

512
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: let me drive the hum Vy onto the airplane. That's

513
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: where they do. And then we're putting like these things.

514
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: We're up on the wing of the plane, which pretty cool,

515
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: you know, some thirty thirty I'm walking on a thirty

516
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 3: million dollar plane, which is weird. And you're putting like

517
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 3: you know, the life and the safety equipment on there,

518
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, guys, you're going to do this

519
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: again after like for real though, right, like this is

520
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: the final go like these this jet's going to go

521
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: the cow diat like the life rast's not going to

522
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: work because Forrest Griffould put it in right. I was

523
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 3: a little afraid.

524
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of Hi.

525
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 4: There was something that referenced about just the capability, the

526
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 4: shooting capability in terms of sheer volume. And the next

527
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: thing you see is Forrest just strapped and booted and

528
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: ready to go with seemingly a lot of a lot

529
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: of ammunition on your bed.

530
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: That was the That was the guys that call on

531
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: the air strikes, which is you know, crazy nobody brings

532
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: us fire to so yeah, I mean think about what

533
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: they do is they get real close to the enemy

534
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: or really close to the enemy if you're in the Grandma,

535
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: and they basically call the air strikes in like you know, yeah,

536
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: and so they get you know, they're pretty good with

537
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: coordinates and maps and such because they get you like

538
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: pretty close to that, but not blow themselves up. So

539
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 3: literally all the movies where you see when they call

540
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: in the airstrike and you're too close. You can't call

541
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: it in there, you know what I'm saying, Like, you

542
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: guys see all these movies right like, it's not just me,

543
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: it's not and I, uh, on top of us. So

544
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: that's that's what they do. I was like, oh my god,

545
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: this is crazy.

546
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: I do like grammar.

547
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 4: By the way, So before we get into some of

548
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: this UFC two eighties and anything else you have going on, Uh,

549
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: I'm just curious what your experience is like for a

550
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: UFC pay per view like this past Saturday night. Are

551
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 4: you watching the Leon Edwards Kamara Usman Flight Live? And uh?

552
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: And where are you?

553
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: Well? You know, That's that's what I was thinking. I

554
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: was listening to you guys talk as you do about fighting,

555
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 3: which is pretty fun actually because you guys kind of

556
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: know what you're talking about, which is nice. But how

557
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: good did did Leon Edwards wrestling? Look? His ability to

558
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: exit off the cage, to extricate himself, to to shut

559
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: Usman's wrestling down was to me, I'm amazing. And then

560
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: the way he just would not get greedy, but in

561
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: the clinch would bam Land Taye plump Land one good

562
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 3: knee and then exit. You know, he knew just enough

563
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: to hit you and then move so it doesn't become

564
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: a wrestling scramble, right, Other than the one time he

565
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: shot it was just really amazing wrestling, you know. And

566
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: you know he isn't he one of two guys ever

567
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: to take Usman down. Took him down in the first

568
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: round and mounted him, took his back like you know,

569
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that was like Usman overlooking that aspect

570
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: of game a bit. But but you know, and again,

571
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot to do with sea level

572
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: and time zone. Now, if you're talking about Colby Covington traveling,

573
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: I believe Colby Covington's cardio will travel, unlike Canes to

574
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: Mexico City. I believe his his cardio can travel, right,

575
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: you like that pull back? Yeah, doing deep cuts here,

576
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, his cardio will travel. But I don't know

577
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: that if he can effectively implement that grind game plan

578
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: on a guy as smooth as Leone Edwards, that that

579
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: has the counter wrestling ability.

580
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: It was super impressive.

581
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 5: Man.

582
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking last show Forrest I of

583
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: course didn't have the opportunity of being a champion in

584
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: the UFC, but I always felt like if I got

585
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: that belt, like there is something that transfers over or

586
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: some kind of like not that you're done, but there

587
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: is this confidence that is injected, right that the work

588
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: you've been putting in kind of is reassuring you. Did

589
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: you feel that when you became a champion of the UFC.

590
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Did you feel that level of confidence transfer as a champion?

591
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: Like all right, now I'm like I'm more comfortable or

592
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I feel like my skills are kind of in my body.

593
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: I believe what.

594
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing a little bit more.

595
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: No, sorry, it is a great question. Is great.

596
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: It's going to be difficult.

597
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: Most people are probably I definitely see what you're saying,

598
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: not personally me. I just felt like, all right, you know,

599
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: And this is another thing. I don't love champions calling

600
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: their fights. You're the champion, you have to fight anybody.

601
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: That's the deal, you know, That's that's what champions do.

602
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: They fight anybody. You don't get to like, hey, you know,

603
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: can I find the guy just low? No, No, the

604
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: fans decide. It's one of the tenants of the UFC.

605
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: And and I don't like the way champions kind of

606
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: get the call their on shots. Now because I would

607
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: have called my shots too if I option.

608
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: That is the thing, and we were talking about Israel,

609
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: lot of Sonia calling his shop, but always calling for

610
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: seemingly the most dangerous guy in the number one contender.

611
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: I still do kind of want to know about your

612
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: viewing experience, like are you watching this by yourself? Do

613
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: you mute the commentators? Like what's your average paperw.

614
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I do, so I wish there was a

615
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: there there is a track we watched. We watched it

616
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: before the slap, the Morob fight and Yam fight, and

617
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: it was no commentators, but you could still hear the

618
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: octagon noise. That was ideal. I'm just saying, fight pass.

619
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: If you want to make that an option, you have

620
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: my blessing. But I usually watch it with like the

621
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: volume kind of muted because I do like to hear

622
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: like the slams on the ground and stuff, or the

623
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: crowd cheer, you know. I was like, but I watched

624
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: this one, this last fight on twitch with so you

625
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: watch them live that night, you watch the fights. Yeah,

626
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: it's the weirdest thing in the world, but it's really

627
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: fun and people people actually know a lot about fighting,

628
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: and then people just kind of throw you crazy stuff too.

629
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, Steven wonder Boy Thompson, So we watched the

630
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: fight and we talked about it and broke down. Obviously

631
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: he's one hundred and seventy pounds or so, he has

632
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: some interest in who wins, you know, between usman and

633
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: the champion Leon Edwards. But in a lot of times

634
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: we'll do the watch parties too.

635
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

636
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: So I always saying it is like an excuse to

637
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: watch the fights otherwise, Like I watch a lot of

638
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: them Sunday morning, first thing before my family gets up,

639
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: and I just like, I'm just good enough, Like just

640
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: don't look at your phone, don't do it. Just open

641
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: the fights up. Don't look at your phone or go

642
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: on social media, you.

643
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: Know, and you're watching that on the occasionally the UFC app.

644
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: Are you watching that on the UFC app when you're

645
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: doing that? Or how are you watching that?

646
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: Well? I mean I have the jail broken fight pass, so.

647
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: All right, yes, right, no, perfect because no, but if

648
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: you go to ESPN plus, you can't really you can

649
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: see the length of the fight unless you navigate properly.

650
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: So there's some spoiler within and you can know that

651
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: a main event ends in a finish. So that's why

652
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: I ask I apologize and.

653
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: Real quick, I'm not even yeah, I didn't even.

654
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: Know that, but that natural sound feed is the one

655
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: you're talking about. You know, you mute guys like me

656
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: that never fought right and when we do our ankim,

657
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm telling you about.

658
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: My favorite thing is though. My favorite thing, and this

659
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: is what I use for work, is the walkout. So

660
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: and I hate that they don't have the walk out

661
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: when you just go to a fight. So let's say

662
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: an athlete comes to the UFCPI I want to do

663
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: a little background on them, but I don't actually want

664
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: to do it. I want John Innick to do it

665
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 3: for me. There you go, and I want to know

666
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: what it is. So what I do is I go

667
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: to the last event they fought in and I listened

668
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: to you guys tell me about what camp they're doing,

669
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: where they've been in the background. This guy was a

670
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: karate okay, and then I just listened to that before

671
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: each athlete comes in. And that is that is literally

672
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: all the homework I.

673
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: Do, just so you know in the future, if you

674
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: are ever in that situation, you can text me right

675
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: and behind me right here, I have a fighter car

676
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: library of over five thousand athletes. I can take a

677
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: screenshot of the fighter and it'll tell you everything from

678
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: their children, when they were born, anything you need to know.

679
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm tak yep on that.

680
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: You absolutely could. And I will say I've said this

681
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: so many times. If I could change anything about mixed

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: martial arts television, it would be that we would televise

683
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: every walk up.

684
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you never know the one that's going

685
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: to be awesome, you know.

686
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: And we have twenty five commercial breaks anyway, you know,

687
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: so I wish there was a way somehow. Well, no,

688
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: that's really the problem is that there are so many

689
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: commercial breaks that we got to get them there.

690
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: And I've told you this before, Kenny, I until just recently,

691
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 3: well not, I still do. Sometimes I fast forward the walkout.

692
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: I fast forward literally until like you end up about

693
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: three seconds into the first round. Go hey, follow up

694
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: on that, because sometimes you have to be careful not

695
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: to fast forward too much because somebody will run out

696
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: with the flying knee or the flying jump kick. Here's

697
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to tell guys, Nobody does that in

698
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: the second or third round. In the third round, run

699
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: out with the flying jump kicker knee run out with

700
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: that crazy explosive technique in the third round.

701
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: That's actually fucking brilliant. And I don't even.

702
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: Right because you got to be like, what's going on, like.

703
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: You kind of he's onto something.

704
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: You're absolutely what's coming.

705
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: The problem is most dudes are absolutely exhaustive, but they

706
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: do that hug the you know, like, yeah.

707
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: They'd rather do the pre third final round hug and

708
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: kill ten seconds o'clock.

709
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: You know It's true though, especially for guys who are

710
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: down two rounds, you don't really see it. Like you

711
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: don't see guys that like, go for it in the

712
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: round three, go go for the fly. That's when you

713
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: do it.

714
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: You had the minute break, you got fifteen seconds ofjucing.

715
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: You go for it, throw it, miss it, and then

716
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: run back to the center or run out of the way.

717
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just saying these are gems. I'm

718
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: trying to try to know. I always wanted to do

719
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: it and then I forgot literally just like I was like,

720
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: on this round, you want to do it because I

721
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: was never a glove toucher anyway. I don't like touching gloves.

722
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: So like if like lifts his hand and goes. I'm like,

723
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: that's what we just did. Literally, you don't need to

724
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: do this again. Like, let's just fight. We got fifteen minutes,

725
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: let's get the most out of it.

726
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't strike me as a glove toucher. That

727
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: is Ufcal Hall of Famer Forres Griffin. Willis here on

728
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: the Nican Flooring podcast. So you mentioned Marob Dwallish Willy

729
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: and obviously we talked about your cardiovascular base and you've

730
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: worked so hard on that over the years, even when

731
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: not fighting. So I just sort of wanted to gauge

732
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 4: your level of appreciation for Morob and what he brings

733
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: to the table in terms of weaponizing not just pace

734
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: but the pressure. Because Kenny Floory and Ray Long go

735
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: all these other guys, none of them have a point

736
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: of comparison. They say he's one of one. There's nobody

737
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: like him. Where do you stand on the oncoming Georgian

738
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: Marob Dwallish Willie, Well.

739
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: You know, Peter Yaan has great cardio. Peter yan to

740
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: me is a guy that kind of in that classic

741
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: point tie style will almost lose the first round and

742
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: make reads or you know what have you, and then

743
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: and then come out and finish strong. You know, he's

744
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: a guy with a lot of later fight KOs if

745
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: my memory serves correctly, right.

746
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Yes, but he plays with his food a little bit, right.

747
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not you know again he's a technical guy.

748
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: But but you know that was his His cardio was amazing.

749
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: You know.

750
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: Next level of cardio, I guess is his conditioning, his

751
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: ability to push the pace and you know, retain some power,

752
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: retain some slams. You know, Look, he could still round

753
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: out his technical game a little more. You know, somebody

754
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: will figure out how to stop that. One weapon right right,

755
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: you know, also only works if you have a good chin.

756
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: We did talk about that.

757
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: I was taking notes while watching that fight, and I

758
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: just sort of I said, somebody's going to make him

759
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: pay for some of this.

760
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: That's some point. Somebody's going to make him pay as

761
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: much as he's.

762
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: Ted first, which you have to do, which you can

763
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: a lot of times if you've exhausted your opponent, you

764
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: can get away with that. But somebody's going to find

765
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: it and boom, and you know, Uzman leone edwards to

766
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: him with that. You know, yeah, where he's a little

767
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: too comfortable anyway, how about that co main event though,

768
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: Disease and Gaichie, that was one that I really I

769
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: think that was one of my favorites.

770
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

771
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: Gaichie wants to be more technical, and I had a

772
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: breakdown of this fight. He wants to be more technical, right,

773
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: he said after the fight. I didn't want to do

774
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: that in this instance. I'm going to go ahead and

775
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: disagree with people that are way smarter than me and

776
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: know Trevor Whitman, people that know a lot more about

777
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: fighting than I do, and say, the way to beat

778
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: a better technical striker like Disease is to make it

779
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: a dogfight, is to make it a typical justin Getchee fight.

780
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: And I thought he should have done that immediately in

781
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: the second, third round, first round. I don't know, guys

782
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: too fresh, we don't need this dog fight. But I

783
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: think he lost. He lost that first round. And then

784
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: when he made it the dog fight, that's one it

785
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: kind of like the Christmas and the beauty of physics

786
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: faded and his legs started getting clipped up, and you know,

787
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: so just just kind of a counterpoint, right, and you know,

788
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: maybe maybe there's nothing there, but that's the thought, you know,

789
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: As he gets older and and evolves his technical game

790
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: because he has great coaching, he still needs to make

791
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: sure if he needs he can let the dog out. Yeah,

792
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: this is a guy. He's super technical and he can

793
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: let the dog out against most people. But Physeias with

794
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: two hundred more tie fights is just a damn technician.

795
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, that's all well, holding.

796
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: Up through two hundred more tie fights, and you know.

797
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Like I know these, dude.

798
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: I love when you go full throttle mixed martial arts analysts.

799
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 4: You know, because you're so reticent and resistant to ever

800
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: doing television work with me. You know, you give me

801
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: the fucking Heisman every time we talk about it. I

802
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: know you're on a bigger and better things. You're like

803
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 4: on an executive trajectory or whatever. But I like when

804
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: you get analytical.

805
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: Well, you know, at the end of the day, what

806
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: I'm bringing to the PI is a knowledge of how

807
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: to train for the sport of mets martial arts.

808
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: Right.

809
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: So I don't train at all anymore. Unfortunately, I have

810
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 3: my knees bummed, my shoulders bombed, you know, wine, wine,

811
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: But I still watch a lot of training, you know,

812
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: I want to know what people are doing, how are

813
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: people learning, how much time, are people now devoting to

814
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: skill acquisition and drilling as opposed to you know, with

815
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: old Kenny Floyd, and he just wanted to fight. You know,

816
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: he comes to and he's just like, ah, it's one

817
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: of those days. Kenny's not gonna want to drill at all.

818
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 3: He just go straight to slap hands and let's wrest alive.

819
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: You know.

820
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: That's that's Kenny fucking Floying right there. Savage like that.

821
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: But but no, you know, and I'm interested to see

822
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: like people like different ages doing different amounts of drilling

823
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: the technical work, so that that's what I want to know.

824
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: And then ultimately did that training work in the fight right,

825
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: so that dynamic course respondence if you will, or transfer training,

826
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: did the ship we do in practice actually work in

827
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: the actor down on fight night and do the strength

828
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: and additioning, nutrition, et cetera. Services work like when you

829
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: show up when it matters. And that's the really hard

830
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: thing about.

831
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: That's the hardest part.

832
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you only get to do it like three times

833
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: a year, or the average I think is less than that.

834
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: The average fights having two point three times per year,

835
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: which is crazy, right. I would prefer to fight every

836
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: other week. You know, which seems crazy, but I like

837
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: just to get the reps and you know, anyway, and

838
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: that's something you can do in amateur where there's some

839
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: more rules so you don't get hurt as much and

840
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: the rounds are three minutes. So that's where you're seeing

841
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: more people do the amateur careers or participate more in

842
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: amateur levels, especially internationally, not so much in the States.

843
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: So I just throw that tangent out.

844
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: There is another I love it, hey real quick.

845
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 4: In terms of the scoring when you're doing this whole

846
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 4: twitch situation, because again, a lot of the fan base

847
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: right the comin event and the main event were both

848
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: close fights, at least in my humble opinion, right when

849
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: you're doing your whole thing, I mean, are you watching

850
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: that fight thinking that it's a foregone conclusion that Leon

851
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: or Justin has won? And how much are you really

852
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: able to score this given all that's on your plate

853
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: on an average fight night.

854
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: So I did some certification work or some stuff that's

855
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: going to be on the UFCI website shortly where I

856
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: go through the basically the not only the rules, but

857
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: then scoring criteria in depth. So I feel like I'm

858
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: watching fights at a different level now, and you know,

859
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: it's just sometimes it's what is effective grappling. You know,

860
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: when Holly Holm held Caitlin Vere against the fence for

861
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: however long, the judges deemed that to be effective grappling.

862
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: I did not, but they did, you know. And so

863
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: as I kind of see the fights and the decisions,

864
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: and then if you really want to get specific, you

865
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: can start looking at the way judges because hopefully judges

866
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: have some inter radar reliability, as in, they judged the

867
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: same way, even if it's wrong, is it consistent over time, right?

868
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: You know, So then you can get into a lot.

869
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: But as far as the main event, I thought that

870
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: the winner won. Yep. Obviously there was the point which

871
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: made it a little bit closer, but no, the winner,

872
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: the guy who won the fight won the fight. Second fight,

873
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: you know, the second round, the co main event. The

874
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: second round was very close, third round Gai Chee obviously,

875
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: first round disease obviously, and then there's you know, then

876
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: there's the middle round, which which was close. So I

877
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: wasn't to me, it wasn't the outcome wasn't a foreground conclusion.

878
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: But if I had to agree, that's what I would

879
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: agree with. Again. I've only watched that fight one time.

880
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 3: I need to watch the second round again to really

881
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: tell you more.

882
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: One thing I thought was interesting, just because of the

883
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 4: world in which you live. Justin Gatchee told me it

884
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: was the first time in the UFC that he really

885
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: had to cut weight. He told me that on Thursday

886
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: at the press conference. You know, clearly this was the

887
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: training camp of his life in many respects, added some

888
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: muscle mass, and he knew the challenge in front of him,

889
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: you know.

890
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: But you know, and again he set himself up for that,

891
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: which is so important. He knew going into that that

892
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: I am going to cut some eye, I'm going to

893
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: be a bigger guy. I'm going to you know, to whatever.

894
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: So you know what you could do. As long as

895
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing and there's a plan, sometimes

896
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: even a bad plan is better than no plan.

897
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

898
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: All right, man, We'll let you get back to your week.

899
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: So if you need any notes on any fighters, you

900
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 4: know where to come in the future.

901
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: What is the rest of your day? Hold?

902
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: If I'm allowed to ask you what you have the

903
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: rest of the day, it's just after ten am Pacific time.

904
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken.

905
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: So I'm a pretty good calendar guy, so I've got

906
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: everything right here on my calendar. We just actually had

907
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: a combine over in China Worth Academy combine. Unfortunately I

908
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: wasn't able to get over there, but we have a

909
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: new class of athletes, so I'm going reviewing them. You know,

910
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: our team over there, DM and Singer, you know, well

911
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: a lot of guys over there do a lot, and

912
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: then you know, just reviewing their plans for the athletes.

913
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: And then you've got the road to the UFC R

914
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: to UFC which is coming out. I don't know if

915
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: it's public knowledge, but it's May twenty seventh.

916
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: Well it's got to break the news now.

917
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't never know if stuff's

918
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: out there or not, because again I don't do a

919
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff. But yeah, you know, making sure

920
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: that those athletes are ready prepared and just looking into

921
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: the matchups a little bit. Again, that was an event

922
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: last year. I got to help a whole lot with

923
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: when it was in Singapore, and then by the time

924
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: it was in Abadabi in Vegas, they had to figure

925
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: it out. But that was super cool for me to

926
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: get to be like boots on the ground help with

927
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: an event, so just kind of like reviewing all the

928
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: great things that they came up with or we came

929
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: up with as we went through it.

930
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 5: I love it.

931
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I was actually gonna ask you about that.

932
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

933
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 4: If I went back and forth with Dean for a while,

934
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: we might have even had him here on the Antican

935
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: Floran podcast to talk about all that. But it is

936
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 4: exciting for any of us who grew up NFL fans,

937
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: especially to see anything label to combine, and to see

938
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: guys with numbers on the front of their jersey. You know,

939
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for number fucking twenty eight. If you're wondering,

940
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't know his name, I'm for twenty.

941
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: That would be all right.

942
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: There you go, see Za who lost.

943
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: A very close decision in the finals of our CEO

944
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: C tell me actually spend the rest of my day

945
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: just staring at Kenny Floorian Pitcher here. Oh, there it is, there,

946
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 3: it is.

947
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: There's my I think I'm the only guy smiling out

948
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: of everybody. Cheesy smile.

949
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you are the only guy smile and everybody else

950
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 6: everybody else is either ate something disgusting or just smelled

951
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 6: something very gross.

952
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: I am giving my best model face.

953
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Actually I saw that. Yeah, it was very good.

954
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: I must have just seen Zoolander before that. I don't know.

955
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: Hey, we really appreciate your time, man, so thank you

956
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 4: for doing this. And hey, anytime you need any notes

957
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: or anytime you want to come back on, it's an

958
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: open invitation. Might even have to pay you to give

959
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: you your own segment or something in the future. Hey, you

960
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: don't drink wine anymore?

961
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: Is that right? You don't drink wine anymore?

962
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: I try not to known thing. Over three years ago

963
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: I ordered thirty five hundred dollars worth of wine and

964
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: that is being delivered now after There you go, the

965
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 3: wine that I don't drink.

966
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: Dude, you're back in. You're back in the cave.

967
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: I go back to the bottle of day, no problem.

968
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: I only bring it up because I went to a

969
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: winery for the first time actually at forty four years

970
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: of age in Western Australia last month. Yes, it was

971
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: an unbelievable experience. Yeah all right, hey, thank you buddy.

972
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you soon, right, Yeah, it was all

973
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: sorts of stuff. It was bizzing and Bruce Buffer very

974
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: inebriated is what it was. So hey, thank you, buddy,

975
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: We love you appreciate it. Jerry is former UFC Light

976
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: Heavyweight Champion UFC Hall of Famer for striffing with us

977
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: here on the Anak and Floran podcast. Yeah, doesn't want

978
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: to do TV, but I do like I've got to

979
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: love when he just segues the conversation right to Justin

980
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: Gatchee and uh and Ralph Steve. All right, we go

981
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: from a Hall of Famer to the star of the

982
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 4: Anak and Florian podcast. Let us get to the Ray

983
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: Long a minute and there is Ray.

984
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 5: Wow. Hey buddy, got you knocked it out of the

985
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: park again this weekend. John.

986
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, I will say, And.

987
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: I've been noticed a lot of acting gigs for you, commercials,

988
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: draft kings. What is going on? Do you even think

989
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 5: about the commentating anymore? It's just a ball, you know.

990
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: My boss listens, we don't need to do that.

991
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: No.

992
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: My daughter was like, Daddy, are you getting more famous?

993
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: You know?

994
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: And no, it's been a it's been a little bit overwhelming,

995
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: I guess over the last year there's been a lot

996
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: of sort of different responsibilities. But no, it always elevates

997
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: me and levitates my mood when you you you write

998
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: something on Instagram or say something positive. Because as much

999
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: as our relationship on here is very much, you know,

1000
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: Boston going at New York and vice versa, your support

1001
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: doesn't mean a lot.

1002
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: So thank you man.

1003
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 5: You know, I love what you're doing. And I tell

1004
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 5: you for the first time. The other night, at like

1005
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 5: one in the morning, I actually listened to the podcast.

1006
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: I thought everybody did. No, I'm not even joking.

1007
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: Good show. It's a good show Atty good show objective.

1008
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: It was actually awesome. Petrie and Kenny with the pigs.

1009
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: I think it was the you know they went back

1010
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 5: and forth on a couple of that was it was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Genny,

1011
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: I think you I think you nailed it last week

1012
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 5: with Gechie taking him into deep waters. I actually thought

1013
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 5: uh Raphael was going to win that fight based on

1014
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 5: you know, technical youth and but man, that Geechee is

1015
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 5: unfucked like.

1016
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: You got a Gai chee.

1017
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 5: He almost got a g.

1018
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: Che you know.

1019
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 5: And I with these guys because I've dealt with it.

1020
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 5: You never know if they're dealing with injuries, what's going on.

1021
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 5: They getting older, they've been in a lot of wars.

1022
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: This guy look better.

1023
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: He really did, I tell.

1024
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: You, he just he is the Dan Henderson of the

1025
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: fucking fifty five is with a couple of more tools,

1026
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 5: but he could always get you out of there, hurt

1027
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: you with that right hand. It's crazy.

1028
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 1: I want to get into the fight job. But one

1029
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: thing that just kept going on in my head. And

1030
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Ray you can chime in on this as well. But

1031
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: if you take, like I don't know, think about the

1032
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: Lebron James is or some of the best people in

1033
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: their sport. Who would you rather watch? Who would you

1034
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: pay a ticket to watch? Would you pay to see

1035
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: a front court seat, you know, like court side seats

1036
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: to watch Lebron James or to watch Justin Gaichie do

1037
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: his thing. Like as far as like how much that

1038
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: dude is worth to me? If I if I if

1039
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: he is one of my fighters, that dude is worth

1040
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: millions of dollars in my head, Like there's no one

1041
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: else who you can rely on to deliver that level

1042
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: of action and it was willing to put his body

1043
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: on the line to win and entertain fans. The dude

1044
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: is an absolute gem. I'm blown away by that.

1045
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 5: And more importantly, and I say this with every aspect coaching,

1046
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: managing consistency. He's is crazy. I didn't think he could

1047
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 5: hold up. I really didn't. I just thought he's getting older,

1048
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 5: he had his nose fixed. Uh, you know, he's making

1049
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 5: money made. I'm I'm it was crazy. That was crazy.

1050
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 5: And I tell you like again, he's man. He could man.

1051
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 5: He is thrown thrown with bad intentions like Mike Tyson.

1052
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: That that's him. He's thrown with bad intentions. Man and

1053
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 5: man and raffio. I mean, it was a great fight,

1054
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: it really was. But that third round was just phenomenal.

1055
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: The way he started using the jeb and then he

1056
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 5: found that upper cut. He wasn't letting that go. And

1057
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 5: you know it just yeah crazy.

1058
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 4: I might get the word ge chee tattooed somewhere on

1059
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: my phone.

1060
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 5: Oh no, I might.

1061
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: I might. He's a twin, right, there's always an extra

1062
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: tie into these tattoos, dude, Okay, please, I.

1063
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 4: Might go game bread on one side of the net

1064
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 4: gee chee on the other side when I retire.

1065
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: I might.

1066
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: I actually might. This isn't funny, Kenny. I did see

1067
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 4: your tweets Kenny about Justin Gai Chee, And you're right

1068
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: as always, kem flough coming at the commentators a little

1069
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: bit over the weekend as well, which is always like that.

1070
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: No, no, dude, you know I'm fucking around. Dude, I

1071
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: hold you in the highest for God, I love you.

1072
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: But no, I do think at times, even when I

1073
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: was scoring it, not just commentating, I was giving Goosman

1074
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: maybe a skosh too much credit for forward motion uh

1075
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: and the uh, the desire to get takedowns even if

1076
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: it wasn't overall effective grappling, and I just lost my

1077
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 4: my train.

1078
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1079
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: In terms of your tweet about Justin Gechee, I wouldn't

1080
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 4: be surprised if he's one of these guys who is

1081
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: a non champion who gets a million bucks to show.

1082
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: By the way, I think he's got to be one

1083
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: of the highest pay pis.

1084
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: If I deserves five million to show, I'm just saying.

1085
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent deserves that. He never disappoints. And

1086
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: again I thought he'd have a rougher time with that.

1087
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 5: But you know this should look like physique's that the

1088
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 5: distance was off right, he was, the range was just

1089
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: a little off. He was throwing fast, you could see

1090
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: had a speed advantage. He made a miss. But you

1091
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: know the problem, you know, Phyzive is a great fight.

1092
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: I think the problem moving forward with Phyziv is that

1093
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 5: he doesn't look like he's going to be a five

1094
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: round fighter. You know, he starts to fade in that

1095
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 5: third round a couple of times. And now he's got

1096
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 5: to go four and five against a guy that could

1097
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 5: throw like that. That's going to be different. And uh,

1098
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 5: you know, I think you said he's going to drag

1099
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 5: him into deep waters and just drown him. And not

1100
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: that he drowned him, but he definitely let him know.

1101
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 5: You're in the big leagues now and there's a difference

1102
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 5: between me and a couple of the other guys. So

1103
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 5: phenomenal job on that. And you know, and Petrie really

1104
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 5: isn't awful a lot of you know, he's he's good,

1105
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 5: you know, even with the Usbonn fight. I you know,

1106
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 5: I get it. If you're a newsman guy, you want it.

1107
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 5: But I thought Edwards did a great job too. And

1108
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 5: you know, for me, I think me and you picked

1109
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 5: Edwards Kenny, but uh, yeah, you know, I just thought,

1110
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: I know, the altitude is no joke. The guy had

1111
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 5: a good first round. Then he starts fading, you know,

1112
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: then he's got to get motivated, you know, at the

1113
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 5: fifth round to come and up, come on. But you know,

1114
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 5: I just you know, I had talked with his U

1115
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: the coaches afterwards, and even him. He's he's such a

1116
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 5: good guy man. You know, he's a hard guy to

1117
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: get a read on. Like you look at him, he

1118
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 5: looks like he's bored. It's like going into the third round.

1119
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 5: I don't know, And that's the way he is. He's

1120
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: just a chill guy even in person. He's just a great,

1121
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 5: great guy. And but no emotion, no emotion at all

1122
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: with him. But I thought he did a very very

1123
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 5: good job and I liked the corner. They didn't wait

1124
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: for the fifth round. They started jumping on him in

1125
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 5: the second round. They weren't gonna wait. They had to jump,

1126
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 5: you know, they get up his ass early, and I think, uh,

1127
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 5: I think he responded. I thought it was a was

1128
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: a good fight, and I thought, you know, Usman was

1129
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 5: a class actor after the fight. Love seeing that, and

1130
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 5: you know, it's just hard to come back and like again,

1131
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 5: you don't know the injuries he started beating up those

1132
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: legs I think it did take something out of them,

1133
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 5: maybe with a little of the explosion going in, but

1134
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 5: great fights. I enjoyed the shit out of that hole.

1135
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 5: The main card was great.

1136
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 3: Yep.

1137
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 4: I guess I will get your thoughts now on Leon

1138
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 4: Edwards Colby Covington, and then I want to just circle

1139
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: to Kenny and you on Gaechee if I could, So,

1140
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on Colby Covington essentially being guaranteed

1141
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: the title fight despite some of the inactivity of late

1142
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 4: And ultimately, how do you handicap what seemingly is going

1143
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: to be the next welterweight title defense for Leo Edwards,

1144
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: whether he likes it or not.

1145
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, well, that's the first thing I don't like.

1146
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 5: He has no saying anything.

1147
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: So forst Griffin just came on and said he doesn't

1148
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: like a champion calling his shot, But we have seen

1149
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: a lot of UFC champions of late get the opportunity

1150
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: to call their shot out of Sonya chief among them.

1151
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 5: Right, Look, the only thing I could say not an

1152
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: easy fight, obviously, but the fact that he had the

1153
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 5: last two fights with Uzman is great, great learning for

1154
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen in the Covington fight. I just you know,

1155
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 5: we got to see where Kobe is now too, But

1156
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 5: he looks like the pressure. Uh you know, look, if

1157
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 5: he could stop those takedowns like he did with Ouzman,

1158
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 5: he wins that fight. You know, he will piece them

1159
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: up standing up. I'd like to see a little more

1160
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 5: volume out of Leon, but he is. He landed some

1161
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 5: big shots. He just yeah, seems like even when he lands,

1162
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 5: he wants to go right to the clinch, you know

1163
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: what I mean, instead of you know, backing out and

1164
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 5: coming in again.

1165
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: Like it's really interesting.

1166
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: It's really interesting you say that, Kenny. It's he's landing

1167
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: essentially seventy percent of his strikes. But I think Leon

1168
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: is making the fight a little bit closer than it

1169
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: needs to be. And I do think that if there

1170
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: was a little bit more volume right then he wouldn't

1171
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: necessarily right because I'm sitting there in round four and

1172
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1173
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: These these rounds were close, man, well you know.

1174
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 5: They were close. But I think you had to give

1175
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 5: him to Edwards. They walk close. I was just what

1176
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 5: my concern was after like defence grab and the nuts shot,

1177
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, please, don't make this a championship

1178
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 5: fight where the ref is going to have to keep

1179
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 5: interjecting and taking points, and thank god it got back

1180
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: on track. But uh, I did think Leon looked, you know,

1181
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 5: you know, it's almost like when he you know, he

1182
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: grabs the fence and he's like, what are you talking about? Like,

1183
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 5: you know, that's I don't think that's up for good.

1184
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 5: So I was almost reminded me of Johnny cochran with

1185
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 5: the glove, but the other things like hanging off his fingertips.

1186
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 5: He like he doesn't, you know, and he's like looking

1187
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 5: at the guy, like what are you talking about? But

1188
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 5: you did grab defence, and I'm glad he regrouped. But

1189
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: I was just happy I didn't go in that direction

1190
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 5: where the fouls were gonna make a difference in the fight.

1191
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 5: It almost it almost did. I think they had to

1192
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: take a point away. I think that was a great call.

1193
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 5: You know, you got to let these guys know that

1194
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: you just, you know, you got to abide by the rules.

1195
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 5: So sometimes it's like a tough love thing. And even

1196
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 5: though it was a championship fight, you don't want to

1197
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 5: see it go that way. You got to do it

1198
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 5: the right thing.

1199
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 4: So Kenny on the gae Chee front. He beats Rafael

1200
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: Fhazibe by majority decision. So somebody had this one of

1201
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 4: the three scorecards in the world that matter had at.

1202
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Twenty eight twenty eight. And I don't want.

1203
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: To sort of bring the show down perpetually by talking

1204
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: about the scoring right. We even talked to the Great

1205
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: Sean Shee and last week and we didn't even talk

1206
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: about scoring right. But damage reigned supreme in twenty twenty three,

1207
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: and I do think by the letter of the law,

1208
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: you can score this fight twenty eight twenty eight. But dude, gaichee,

1209
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: I couldn't even tell if the press conference was before

1210
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 4: or after the fight when I'm looking at him, and

1211
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 4: Fhaziv's unrecognizable. So we got issues, man, And I did

1212
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: ride back with Ben Cartledge, who I think is a

1213
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: fine judge and a really good human and if he

1214
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 4: could make one change it would be half points. He

1215
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: wasn't sure if we'll ever get here, get there in

1216
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: the lifetime, but I do think certainly that round three

1217
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: is a ten eight and a half, but not a

1218
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: ten eight. But dude, don't tell I love Danny Rube

1219
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 4: texted me, and you know, but dude, like, you know

1220
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: where I'm going here, right, Like, don't tell me after

1221
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: those three rounds that Raphael Fhazee, I mean, look at

1222
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: his face, no Am, I Well.

1223
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 1: That's the thing, you know, absolutely two things I think

1224
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: were a factor in that fight because of that. I think,

1225
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: first of all, Gei Chee's size. You know, I don't

1226
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: know what they were too, but both of them were

1227
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: weighing in at that night. But Gei Chee certainly looked

1228
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: bigger at the weigh ins, and he certainly looked bigger

1229
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: on fight night. Two masses that are colliding, the heavier

1230
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: one is going to take greater effect. The second thing

1231
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: is I think, you know, and it's great that he

1232
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: was doing that, but in the end, I think it

1233
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: heard Physique was attacking the body way too much and

1234
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: and Gaechie was hunting for that head and again you're

1235
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: clearly seeing that damage. Not only that, I think the

1236
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: punches that Physique was landing, and he was landing more

1237
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: Gaie Chee's was walking right through those. It didn't seem

1238
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: like it was getting him to pause at all when

1239
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: he was landing a leg kick, when he was landing

1240
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: a shot to the head. You saw it back up

1241
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: Phyzeve and I think that was that was a big tell.

1242
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: And of course you look at the face at the end.

1243
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: Phayzev looked like he went face first into a wood

1244
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: chipper man. Geechee was just throwing big shots his jab

1245
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: like Ray so intelligently mentioned his job was on point.

1246
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: In round three, he kept running into that job. Then

1247
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: he started setting up that second layer attack with the

1248
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: upper cut h and Gechie just built up to this crescendo.

1249
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: That was just a thing of beauty.

1250
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you some physive look first off,

1251
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 5: everything it's like he can't manage that energy for his body.

1252
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 5: He didn't look it was I'm gonna say one and

1253
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 5: two were definitely close. There's no question about it. You know,

1254
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 5: damage whatever. Third round did just a walk, just run away.

1255
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 5: But he didn't make the adjustments. You know, Geegee had

1256
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 5: his hands down by his ass for most of the times.

1257
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 5: He you can't tell me he can't get a kick

1258
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 5: up to his head. The guy's super talented. I don't

1259
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 5: think he fought a smart fight. I think Rafael Physibe

1260
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 5: is going to grow from that fight and he's going

1261
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: to learn how to manage his energy. And pick his

1262
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 5: shots a little better. But it was always one through

1263
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 5: three four, one through three four, but you know, like

1264
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 5: and fast and like, you know, you could see there

1265
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 5: was a speed advantage, but like Kenny says, the guy

1266
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 5: was walking through it. And I think he he picked

1267
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 5: up on that rhythm and he was probably able to

1268
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 5: roll a couple of those. It doesn't take much to

1269
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 5: take a lot of steam off a punch, just a

1270
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: little turn it ahead. It's a huge, huge difference, you

1271
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I think it's a growing

1272
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 5: fight for physie. He's young enough to make the adjustments,

1273
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 5: but he didn't make the adjustments in that fight. He

1274
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 5: took his foot off, he put you know, the like again,

1275
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 5: the jab was snapping his head back and then he

1276
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 5: would bounce forward. He's got definitely got the bulls, he's

1277
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 5: got the you know, he's got the tenacity. But he

1278
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 5: didn't fight smart. He really didn't. I thought there were

1279
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 5: openings he could have exploited based on his style that

1280
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 5: he just did not do. And I don't know why.

1281
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 5: I think it was almost like he had the whole

1282
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 5: fight preset in his head. You know. Once three body kick,

1283
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 5: body kick, you know, that was it. It looked like,

1284
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 5: you know, he throw the bodykick trying to come back

1285
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 5: with that that HOOKI the range was off. He never

1286
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 5: made the adjustment to me, and uh, not taking away

1287
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 5: a thing, because I do think one and two were close,

1288
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 5: and that's where the I like the half points, because

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Speaker 5: you know the way the scoring is set up, you

1290
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 5: could you know, and I'm not saying, but somebody could

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Speaker 5: have given the first two to Physive and then Gaichie

1292
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 5: would for having it. If you gave the first two

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Speaker 5: ten nine to Physive and ten nine on the third

1294
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 5: to gay Chie, that's a problem in the scoring because

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 5: there was if you yeah, that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: But if you did have If I'm sitting there and

1297
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: I have the fight twenty to eighteen, right, at least

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 4: I have the tool of a ten eight. I didn't

1299
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: think that that third round was a ten eight, but

1300
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 4: certainly if I was sitting there on a scorecard that

1301
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: was twenty to eighteen, I would have leveled that out

1302
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: and scored that fight a draw. I just don't understand

1303
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, we have cryptocurrency and non fungible tokens,

1304
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 4: and we can't give judges just one more tool, right,

1305
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: so that when they do have a fight like this

1306
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 4: Kenny nineteen nineteen, you give them the ability, right, well,

1307
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: I guess it doesn't matter of ninth, but you give

1308
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: me the ability to do ten eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking simple.

1310
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Speaker 5: I agree with you, John on at one hundred percent.

1311
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 5: I think that takes away the problem of if somebody scored,

1312
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 5: you know, the first two rounds of physique, because I

1313
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 5: think those were if you know, they were close either way,

1314
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 5: but you know, I think they scored it. The right

1315
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 5: guy won the fight, and again hats off to them,

1316
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 5: but I think if it had gone the other way,

1317
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: I think your point on the scoring is one hundred

1318
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: percent dead on with that.

1319
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 4: So Anderson Silva goes into the UFC Hall of Fame

1320
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 4: over the weekend, Ray you were the guys who essentially

1321
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 4: took down his reign, and I tweeted on Monday morning,

1322
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: greatest highlight reel of all time. I thought he had

1323
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: the best knockout in his title fight ever when he

1324
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 4: knocked out vtor Bell for Kenny and I were in

1325
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 4: the building, one of the most stunning things ever. As

1326
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: revered by his peers, I think as any fighter to

1327
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 4: come before after him, and then I wrote, above all else,

1328
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: I don't know that any fighter inspired the next generation

1329
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: of fighter more than Anderson Silva. So nice to see

1330
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 4: him go into the UFC Hall of Fame. And I

1331
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: know he was obviously touched by that over the weekend.

1332
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh you got any thoughts on that? Right?

1333
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 5: Oh well, if anybody deserves to be in the Hall

1334
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,959
Speaker 5: of Fame, it's Anderson Silver again, highlight reel from hell

1335
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 5: and again. I like what you say. It's the guys

1336
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 5: that inspire the next generation, and that's huge, you know

1337
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 5: what I mean. And I'm gonna say that gecheees even

1338
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to circle back to gaatechee, but you

1339
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 5: gotta get excited when you see a fight like that.

1340
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 5: And the same thing with Anderson Silver, the head movement,

1341
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 5: making guys miss, kicking him out of nowhere, making it

1342
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: look easy against high ranked opponents, you know, pulling the

1343
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 5: pulling fights out in the last minute, you know, when

1344
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 5: you're down four in at four and you know, four

1345
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 5: rounds to nothing. Just some of his stuff was just,

1346
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 5: you know, stuff with legends are made of and he

1347
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 5: is a legend and he deserves to be in that

1348
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.

1349
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Ken Flow, this is your era.

1350
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: Obviously, I know that Anderson Silva made his pro debut

1351
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 4: way before you did, so he goes into the pioneer

1352
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 4: wing of the UFC Hall of Fame. But any thoughts

1353
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: on the acknowledgment at UFC two eighty six for Anderson.

1354
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: Listen, it was a dunk shot that he was going

1355
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame in some way,

1356
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: shape or form. Absolute legend. I don't know if there

1357
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: was another guy out there in championship fights who could

1358
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: bring in magical techniques into the octagon like Anderson Silva did,

1359
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: and he was doing stuff that was way ahead of

1360
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: his time. He was a guy that I used to

1361
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: study a lot, and I was always in awe of

1362
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: him when it mattered. He was in so many great moments,

1363
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: a true champion, a great guy as well. Uh, super

1364
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: humble and uh and one of the most exciting fighters

1365
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: to watch ever.

1366
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll give you a funny story.

1367
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 5: I know I've told her before, but we're at the

1368
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 5: hard Rock before they expanded it. Remember how small the

1369
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 5: joint was, Kenny back in the day, and I had

1370
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 5: lou Como fight and uh, it justeven Jonathan Goulay, Right,

1371
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 5: So como's the swing bout at that point. They used

1372
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 5: to do a lot of swing bouts back in the

1373
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 5: day when they didn't know what the time was or whatever. Yeah, uh,

1374
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 5: and I forget that. Anderson Silver that's his He's making

1375
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 5: his debut against Chris Levin. And you know in the joint, John,

1376
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 5: you have a just picture the size of an octagon

1377
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 5: with a you know, a curtain in between, so you're

1378
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 5: right next to your guy on the side of the curtain.

1379
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 5: I think we're the last fight. I hear it's it's

1380
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 5: out of the movie blood Sport, where you hear, you know,

1381
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: Tong Po kicking the post. There is a guy Smith,

1382
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 5: And I'm like, man, did I do something? Is that

1383
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 5: Jonathan Goulay? I can't even like. I'm actually starting to

1384
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 5: get nervous. And then I peek over the I have

1385
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 5: to take a look because I'm hearing like violence on

1386
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 5: the on the taiepids and I peak over. It's Anderson Silver.

1387
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 5: I go, thank god, you know, I had miscounted, Like

1388
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 5: I really thought we were the last fight, but we

1389
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 5: had to wait for Anderson Silva to go. You know,

1390
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 5: isn't it crazy? I don't know if people understand swing bouts,

1391
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 5: but you could go at any time like they have

1392
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 5: your weight and it kind of sucks. But I was

1393
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 5: what I heard on the other side of that curtain

1394
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 5: was craziness, man, and I was like, please tell me.

1395
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 5: It can't be Jonathan Gulet. You know, I didn't even

1396
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 5: think he had anything near of that, and it was

1397
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 5: a relief to see it was Anderson Silva. And then

1398
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: he went out and looked what he did to Chris Levin,

1399
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 5: who had a granite chin, and you know, just you know,

1400
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: chill them.

1401
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: Before Anderson Silva came over to the UFC Jorhe River

1402
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: and hopefully Hoge is cool with me telling this story.

1403
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: He fought him over in England and Cage Warriors, and

1404
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: and Jorge was a big one hundred and eighty five

1405
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: pounder man. He was like one hundred and fifteen pounds

1406
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: off season, like muscled up. And he said he went

1407
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: over to England, he had the best camp you ever had,

1408
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: was on point and he goes, Kenny, he goes, I

1409
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: hit him with the best right hand I've ever thrown

1410
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: in my life. He's like better than I've ever hit

1411
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: on a pad on a bag, he goes, I hit

1412
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: it with everything I had, landed it perfectly right on

1413
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: the job, and Anderson Silva just kind of he smiled

1414
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: at me and nodded his head and moved forward and

1415
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: just destroyed me. He's like, I've never seen anything like it,

1416
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: he says. Just he goes, he just destroyed him with

1417
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: that smile. I mean, that's the kind of magic and

1418
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: aura that Anderson Silva.

1419
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 5: Had just then. And shout up to Joye Rivert, who

1420
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 5: was a great guy and you know, an old time

1421
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 5: pioneer himself, which was it's great to hear his name mentioned.

1422
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1423
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: All right, Well, if you're listening on ninety nine point

1424
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 4: five the Jab, you can call Ray eight six six

1425
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 4: seventy five long ago? What he got going on locally

1426
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: this week in Gardens City, New York. Any anybody competing

1427
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 4: here this weekend?

1428
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 5: Right now, we have a Steve Lee was supposed to fight.

1429
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 5: His fight got canceled. Uh. Next week is justin Montalvo

1430
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 5: and Bellatore. Real tough fight against the guy Archie Colgan.

1431
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a great fight. Uh.

1432
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 5: Both guys are undefeated. Archie, you already beat a guy

1433
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 5: in the Jim Dillon Montello. So it's a this is

1434
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 5: gonna be Uh, it's a big fight, really big fight.

1435
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 5: The kid looks good and I'll believing for Mikula California.

1436
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a joint. Huh that's a Johnt.

1437
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 5: That's a joint. Yeah what is that? Did you say?

1438
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 4: John j a U n T Johnt. Yeah, they used

1439
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: that word a lot internationally. Really, Hey, Steve Lee, I

1440
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 4: get it, Steve Lee, the don't fucking want none? I

1441
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: get it, Son, I understand shook ones like mob deep right,

1442
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 4: fucking shook ones. All Ray, We'll let you get out

1443
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 4: on that, you know. I mean, the less time we

1444
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 4: keep you, the more money you make. Wow, I'm not

1445
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 4: that you never looked at it that way.

1446
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 3: You're not that guy.

1447
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: I know you're not.

1448
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 5: But more time, I want to make less money because

1449
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 5: I love you guys. That has nothing to do with

1450
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 5: the money.

1451
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: All right, Then how about how I fine?

1452
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 3: Then? Then?

1453
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: No?

1454
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: Then how about Gunnar Nelson, now the most decorated submission

1455
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: artist in UFC welterweight history. Ken Flow dude in that right?

1456
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 4: So the he made his UFC debut in Nottingham, England.

1457
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 4: Submitted DeMarcus Johnson, but that was at a catchweight one

1458
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five pounds, so he was in this

1459
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 4: tie with Damian Maya and one other fighter, maybe even Nadez.

1460
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1461
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: But now Gunnar Nelson has more submission wins than any

1462
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 4: UFC welterweight ever and it seems fitting to me because

1463
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 4: he was put on a pedestal when he came into

1464
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 4: the UFC, and it's nice that he has this type

1465
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: of legacy. He's not going to be a world champion

1466
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 4: because he told us he prefers coaching to fighting right

1467
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 4: now at this stage of his life. But uh, ray

1468
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: anything on Gunny then before we let you go.

1469
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 5: Kenny, correct me if I'm wrong. But that is ju.

1470
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 5: That's old school jiu jitsu one oh one No, I mean,

1471
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 5: just tell him you don't know what's happening when a

1472
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 5: guy sits over a to like DS mount, like he's

1473
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 5: not isolating at all. Oh, I find that hard. I

1474
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 5: thought he made that. That was old school to me.

1475
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I think everybody's done that.

1476
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 5: Who's ever done jiu jitsu back in the day, sitting

1477
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 5: off and grabbing that arm ball like that. Am I

1478
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 5: wrong on that? Or I think Kenny froze. I think I.

1479
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: Froze it looks like rows because I know you're not

1480
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: asking me about.

1481
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 5: I tell you, John, I think I said old school

1482
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu and the guy somebody can somebody checked Kenny's pulse.

1483
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: He so excited his ros.

1484
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 5: But that's the way it looked to me, John, it

1485
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 5: was really just pretty to watch. He made it look effortlessly.

1486
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 5: Now you know, I'm actually starting to get creeped out

1487
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 5: by Kenny fucking laughing at Kenny. Kenny, I want somebody

1488
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 5: to check your pulse. I was. I got scared, Ship,

1489
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 5: I thought you died.

1490
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell happened there. I said

1491
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys.

1492
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 5: Old school jiu jitsu, and you just sat there and

1493
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 5: gave me like the eagle igo. It's getting creepy? Uh?

1494
01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 5: But am I right on that?

1495
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, is that dude? It was? It was text mean,

1496
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: it looked like Hicks and Gracie and Pride. It was

1497
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: Hickson by arm. It was beautiful thing, it really was.

1498
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: It was jiu jitsu one oh one, and he did

1499
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Speaker 1: it against Barbara. Barbarina knows what an arm bar Is.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think, Gunny is so good at

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Speaker 1: executing those fundamentals. He's always been that way. Nothing flashy,

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Speaker 1: but man, he is so good. Great to see him

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Speaker 1: get a win over a tough guy like Barbara.

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Speaker 5: Great guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he made it look easy. Man, I was it

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Speaker 1: was pretty well.

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Speaker 5: I go, wow, he's tell me he's not going for

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Speaker 5: that home bar It was crazy, But anyway, I thought

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Speaker 5: it was great. Good for Gunnan Nelson. Uh, great fight.

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Speaker 5: I thought the main card de live it on every

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Speaker 5: fight I thought it was. It was a great main card.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great experience overall, and you guys

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Speaker 4: certainly would have appreciated all the fans in London wearing

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Speaker 4: the podcast gear and just the support for our show

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Speaker 4: over there was just crazy. So that was pretty cool

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Speaker 4: to see as well. Long night, nine decisions, fifteen fights,

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Speaker 4: maybe the third or fourth loudest London craft that, according

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Speaker 4: to our producers, certainly wasn't deafening all night long the

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Speaker 4: way I expected it to be. Maybe not quite as

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Speaker 4: festive as Perth if I'm being honest, but it was

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Speaker 4: a hugely special week, one of the more unforgettable fight

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Speaker 4: weeks of my professional career.

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Speaker 1: To be sure.

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Speaker 5: All right, quick thing too, because I love Dan Hardy,

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Speaker 5: but a shout out to his wife. I thought she

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Speaker 5: crushed that fight. Oh yeah, man, the violence, the way

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Speaker 5: she generated power in some of those you know, positions

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Speaker 5: on the ground is not easy to do, but man,

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Speaker 5: she was. She was on point. And you know, I

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Speaker 5: didn't even know we had a wife. So I'm happy,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, shout out to Dan Hardy, man

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Speaker 5: one of the good guys. I like him. Alit and no,

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Speaker 5: she fought wife knocked it out of the park.

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Speaker 4: She thought a really developing but good fighter and a

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Speaker 4: mean girl. And Juliana Millery now Claster as the plus

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Speaker 4: three twenty five underdog. I know Kenny didn't see the fight,

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Speaker 4: but Veronica Hardy looked like she had spent three years

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Speaker 4: under the watchful eye of Mixed Martial Arts Encyclopedia Dan Hardy,

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Speaker 4: and she died. A caption on Twitter, Dan's far more

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Speaker 4: excited in that photo than any of their wedding photos.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know that any more apt words could

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Speaker 4: have been written there. So all right, right, Ray, why

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Speaker 4: don't you get on out of here?

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Speaker 5: That's about insightful, young lady.

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Speaker 1: Love you buddy.

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Speaker 4: There is Ray Longo every week here on the Anak

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Speaker 4: and Florian Podcast, and that is going to just about

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Speaker 4: do it for this episode. We are back later in

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Speaker 4: the week because there is a massive UFC made event

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Speaker 4: coming up this weekend on ESPN Marlon Cheeto vera most

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Speaker 4: decorated finisher in UFC bantamweight history, taking on Corey Sandhagen,

1552
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 4: a title eliminator at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

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Speaker 4: Six picks from Ken Flow and Brian Petrie coming up

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Speaker 4: on this year DraftKings YouTube channel probably midday Thursday, and

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Speaker 4: thanks to everybody, it seems like most people on the

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Speaker 4: video side have migrated over the DraftKings YouTube channel. Please

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Speaker 4: subscribe like our videos and they will populate the hell

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Speaker 4: out of your YouTube channel. Thank you guys all for

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Speaker 4: the support Internationally, it means a lot to us. Nothing

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Speaker 4: has changed on the audio side. Full length version of

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Speaker 4: the Blau Muhammad interview that exclusive on the anticin Florian

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Speaker 4: podcast YouTube channel. Of course, the clip's right here on

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: DK and again the support means a lot. Kenny Florian

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Speaker 4: Martial Arts dot Com. I mean, why not fucking click

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Speaker 4: that website right now? Like, why not fucking click Kenny

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Speaker 4: Flory in Martial Arts dot com right now, Oh, I

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Speaker 4: know why, because you're going to Millions dot coo to

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Speaker 4: buy one more sleep merchandise. Have you seen the UK designs?

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Speaker 4: They're unbelievable. I learned the whole history about the Union

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Speaker 4: Jack when I was in London, England, and I will

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Speaker 4: say too, there are all these ripoffs out there. I

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Speaker 4: feel bad right, there are all these one more sleep

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Speaker 4: ripoffs out there, and Millions dot coe is the only

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Speaker 4: place that you can buy one more sleep merchandise. So

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01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: if if it says they won't ship to your country,

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 4: let me know on social media and we will absolutely

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 4: fix that. So thanks everybody for the support, and we

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01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 4: appreciate Ray Longo and for s Griffin joining us. Thanks

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01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 4: to our executive producer Cody Marra, for Kenniflum John and

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Speaker 4: we will talk to you in about seventy two hours.

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Speaker 4: Until then, you'll fucking later. I love your kids.