Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it's dead. He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said, ny.
Speaker 1: Los js e. Please, hey boo it's me ros Dressful Liz.
Speaker 1: I have had just like the best week. I was
Speaker 1: showered with so much love because it was my birthday
Speaker 1: weekend and we did the first ever live Ghosted, and
Speaker 1: I can tell you it will be the first of many.
Speaker 1: It's just been so great and gosh, it was so
Speaker 1: nice to actually get to meet you all, you booze
Speaker 1: that listen to the show. I mean to me, at
Speaker 1: least a big handful of you at the show, and
Speaker 1: just putting a face to many people that I've just
Speaker 1: talked to on the Internet. And it was just a
Speaker 1: really cool experience. So today's episode, we're going to be
Speaker 1: playing some of the live show. You know, some of
Speaker 1: it was just exclusive for the people that were there,
Speaker 1: but we also are going to give you a bunch
Speaker 1: of the show today on the episode that you'll get
Speaker 1: to hear, which was great. I had Pleasant Gay Men,
Speaker 1: a recent guest, was on the show. I also had
Speaker 1: Deborah Wilson, who is one of the most talked about
Speaker 1: guests to ever be on this show. She was our
Speaker 1: first episode and she always brings the story. She always
Speaker 1: brings so much energy, and it was so funny. Before
Speaker 1: we started the show, I introduced Pleasant to Deborah, and
Speaker 1: those are such powerful presences, both of those people, and
Speaker 1: it was just it was so cool and interesting to
Speaker 1: see the two of them meeting and they really hit
Speaker 1: it off, I think, and Pleasant and I went backstage
Speaker 1: as we were seeding the theater and there was some fun,
Speaker 1: you know, eighties kind of music playing as people were
Speaker 1: getting seated in the house, and Deborah was just sitting
Speaker 1: in the front row singing at the top of her lungs.
Speaker 1: So people got a great pre show from Deborah Wilson
Speaker 1: before the show even started, So that was fun. I
Speaker 1: want to tell you just a little bit about where
Speaker 1: we did the live show, so we've talked about it
Speaker 1: many times on the show. It is the Cavern Club
Speaker 1: theater at Casita del Campo. It is truly one of
Speaker 1: my favorite places in Los Angeles. And that listen, that
Speaker 1: says a lot because my bed is in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and if it was up to me, I would never
Speaker 1: leave it. So this is one of my favorite places.
Speaker 1: It's just the food is amazing. It's just such a
Speaker 1: great vibe there always, and there's a theater in the
Speaker 1: basement where we did the show, and I highly recommend
Speaker 1: on your to do list when you come to La
Speaker 1: come to Casita del Campo and if you can, a
Speaker 1: show at the Cavern Club theater. And I've been so
Speaker 1: fortunate to get to do tons of shows there in
Speaker 1: the basement, lots of like campy kind of drag theater shows,
Speaker 1: like lots of TV show parodies like The Golden Girls Live,
Speaker 1: which I've done a million times with Jackie Bead and
Speaker 1: Sam Pancake and Drew Drogi and Sherry Vine and Alaska
Speaker 1: Thunderfuck and all these tons of really cool fun people.
Speaker 1: And it's actually the place where I first met Cassandra Peterson.
Speaker 1: She was in the audience of a show that I
Speaker 1: was in there and that was the first time we
Speaker 1: ever met. So that theater. I have heard over the
Speaker 1: years that it's haunted for some reason, the ghosts there
Speaker 1: just you know, not interested in me. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: just not their type. But I've heard a few stories,
Speaker 1: maybe urban legend. I don't know. I don't have any
Speaker 1: facts about this, but one of the stories is that
Speaker 1: before it was a restaurant, it was a community center
Speaker 1: of some sort, maybe associated with a church, some say,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and a young girl somewhere maybe between
Speaker 1: the ages of eighteen and sixteen. I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: heard many versions of the story. She was in the basement,
Speaker 1: which was a kitchen at the time, and there was
Speaker 1: a fire and she got trapped and she died. There's
Speaker 1: another ghost story, which is that a man was trying
Speaker 1: to rob the place and was shot. But I actually
Speaker 1: did some googling. I did some investigative journalism, which basically
Speaker 1: just means I typed in on my phone the history
Speaker 1: of that address, and I found an article from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six from the Los Angeles Times, and it says
Speaker 1: said a man named Lewis entered the building at eleven
Speaker 1: thirty PM and he was trying to rob the place,
Speaker 1: and he had a gun and he shot the manager
Speaker 1: who was who survived. He just shot him in the hand.
Speaker 1: And there were five employees that subdued the robber and
Speaker 1: when the cops arrived, the robber was dead. And it
Speaker 1: says there was there's no obvious signs for cause of death.
Speaker 1: There was not a blow to the head, there were
Speaker 1: no marks around the neck, there was no gun wound.
Speaker 1: And then this article just ends with an autopsy will
Speaker 1: be performed, and I can't find a follow up article.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how that man died. We did
Speaker 1: do a little bit of a seance and we tried
Speaker 1: to figure out, but you'll have to wait and see
Speaker 1: what we find out or if we find out anything.
Speaker 1: So just to set up a little bit about the
Speaker 1: space that we did the live show, and I want
Speaker 1: to pass it on over to some of my friends
Speaker 1: that have been on the show. So let's start off.
Speaker 1: Here's Selene Luna, and then we'll go into a couple
Speaker 1: of other stories that have been told about hauntings in
Speaker 1: the basement of Casita del Campo. See, I've worked there
Speaker 1: a billion times at this point, and I've never I
Speaker 1: don't know that my senses have gone off there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know anywhere that's dark, and I'm by myself.
Speaker 1: I'm immediately convinced it's haunted, but yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what came through, what happened.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that because I too, I mean, I've
Speaker 3: been performing at this theater for at least fifteen years
Speaker 3: and never ever had a weird vibe, never felt anything.
Speaker 3: But also I don't think I'm tuned into that stuff
Speaker 3: because I'm not open to it generally. As much as
Speaker 3: I love getting spooked, it takes a lot to get
Speaker 3: me there.
Speaker 1: But there is such a just like fun vibe in
Speaker 1: that theater because yeah, I mean there's really only like comedy,
Speaker 1: campy kind of shows that happened there, and it's a
Speaker 1: very family owned restaurant that is above the theater, so
Speaker 1: it's definitely not a dark energy or was that ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there's always such a loving vibe in there.
Speaker 3: That's why I've never picked up on anything spooky, which
Speaker 3: makes me think maybe it's an unworldly loving vibe. You know,
Speaker 3: it could be like hippie ghosts who came through. Well,
Speaker 3: this was not very loving. It was like a spooky
Speaker 3: thing for real. And I think it helped to have
Speaker 3: this paranormal team because they seem to know what they're doing,
Speaker 3: and they really conjured up some shit that I couldn't
Speaker 3: on my own without. They had the EVP. I forgot
Speaker 3: what it's called, that machine that picks up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she had all her equipment, all like the
Speaker 3: stuff you see on TV, and including the Ouiji board
Speaker 3: for fun, and we did all kinds of funny stuff.
Speaker 3: It was like being in a slump at a slumber part.
Speaker 3: So she well pleasant, she probably would she would do
Speaker 3: a much better job explaining the process because I'm a
Speaker 3: complete novice and I was just in it for the fun.
Speaker 3: And so she just started asking questions, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: to the air, like if there's somebody here, make this
Speaker 3: light flash? And sure enough, immediately she had this little
Speaker 3: contraption with four different colored lights, so like a Simon
Speaker 3: says game from the eighties, and so she would say,
Speaker 3: if your present, make the blue light go on twice,
Speaker 3: like very specific instructions, and immediately, boom boom, like the
Speaker 3: lights were happening. We're like, oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And there was an empty chair right next to my
Speaker 3: maid of honor, who was none other than Margaret Chow.
Speaker 3: Of course, she herself has had many paranormal experiences. She'd
Speaker 3: be a great guest. Anyway, she was sitting, there wasn't
Speaker 3: anybody sitting next to her. Her seat was empty, and
Speaker 3: she's like, Margaret's like, oh my god, can you feel this?
Speaker 3: And her chair was like there was no ac directly
Speaker 3: above it, and it was super cold, like after we
Speaker 3: got that communication on the lights. So and it was
Speaker 3: right behind me. So I turn around and I hover
Speaker 3: my hand over the chair, and it was undeniable that
Speaker 3: the temperature over that chair vastly different from any their seat.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, she was sitting in it.
Speaker 3: The chair next next to her, which was it was
Speaker 3: like it was like ice cold, but like right next
Speaker 3: to her it's warm and normal.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 3: It was so obvious everybody could feel it, like a
Speaker 3: huge temperature difference. So I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 3: So so then so then we all gravitated to that chair,
Speaker 3: and pleasant brought that a little meter that picks up
Speaker 3: the EVPs and put it next to that chair and
Speaker 3: started asking it questions and he and he began responding.
Speaker 3: And so we learned that this presence, whatever it was,
Speaker 3: identified itself as the burglar who was killed in that
Speaker 3: basement in the sixties, and it is a It is
Speaker 3: a confirmed story by the owners of the restaurant Slash Theater.
Speaker 3: The story goes that I guess in the sixties, uh,
Speaker 3: there were I guess it was already a restaurant. I'm
Speaker 3: not too clear on that, but also at one point
Speaker 3: that the same building with a church. So there's been
Speaker 3: two deaths in the basement which is now a theater
Speaker 3: where we were doing our paranormal investigation. I'm not clear
Speaker 3: on the timeline who died first, but the place used
Speaker 3: to be a church and there was uh and they
Speaker 3: used to cook in the basement for the parishioners. And
Speaker 3: there was a I believe a fourteen year old. I
Speaker 3: know it was a teenage girl who died in a
Speaker 3: cooking fire.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: So but it was something like she died. I think
Speaker 3: she survived for a short period of time. And that's
Speaker 3: how the family who owned this church had to sell
Speaker 3: it to the current owners, who turned it into a
Speaker 3: restaurant theater. They had to unload the property to make
Speaker 3: money to medically treat this girl who eventually who ended
Speaker 3: up dying anyway. Oh and so there's that death related
Speaker 3: there to that girl. But all so so, getting back
Speaker 3: to the burglar, the story goes that this guy broke
Speaker 3: in to when I'm not sure if it was a
Speaker 3: restaurant yet, I think it was. It was a restaurant. Actually,
Speaker 3: he broke in to hold up the place. He got
Speaker 3: into a scuffle with one of the restaurant employees, I
Speaker 3: think a busboy or a server or something, and there
Speaker 3: was a gun between them. So the other restaurant employees
Speaker 3: saw what was happening. They all jumped on the burglar
Speaker 3: and then the scuffle the gun went off and the
Speaker 3: burglar was shot. And that's where he died, was in
Speaker 3: the basement, or I believe it was from what I'm
Speaker 3: from what I was told. And so he died trying
Speaker 3: to rob the place, but none of the employees died.
Speaker 3: And so he said, so the that entity from my
Speaker 3: bachelorette party identified himself as that burglar.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so but you know, pleasant's really fun. And
Speaker 3: she's like, would you like a margarita? And he's like,
Speaker 3: you could clearly hear him say yes, margarita.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, where's that recording is? Was it recorded?
Speaker 3: I don't think it was recorded. I don't It was
Speaker 3: just live feed from that meter thing.
Speaker 1: He sounds fun. He was fun. We were kind of scared.
Speaker 3: I wasn't too scared, just because there was daytime and
Speaker 3: it was a room full of my girlfriends uh huh.
Speaker 3: But there was some of the guests were like kind
Speaker 3: of terrified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet so.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of weird communication like that.
Speaker 1: Well, and one thing to make very clear, because we
Speaker 1: love Casita del Campo. Yes, you will never get a
Speaker 1: creepy vibe in there, So please go check out the food,
Speaker 1: check out the shows that they have there. It is
Speaker 1: really a magical blessing, blessing the word I use. It's
Speaker 1: a really amazing place that we have here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It is it's very lucky to have it.
Speaker 3: It's very special and it needs to continue to be supported.
Speaker 3: That place is nothing but love.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's one of the few things that I think
Speaker 6: locals know about in LA But it's not a touristy
Speaker 6: thing to go do, but it feels like such a cool,
Speaker 6: underground thing to go see some weird usually drag comedy
Speaker 6: show in the basement after eating rice and beans and
Speaker 6: drinking mercuries. It's the best.
Speaker 7: Just it's a it's such a.
Speaker 6: Complete evening and it's just just like comfort food, comfort comedy. Yes,
Speaker 6: and yeah, And it's been there since the early sixties
Speaker 6: and Rudy del Campo, who was a dancer in Westside
Speaker 6: Story and his wife like created the restaurant and it's
Speaker 6: in this very family place. And then the theater has
Speaker 6: been the Cavern Club has been around since I think
Speaker 6: early nineties, mister Dan says. And then but the haunted
Speaker 6: story of it was that, you know, it used to
Speaker 6: be a like community what do they call it in
Speaker 6: churches when they have like the fellowship.
Speaker 1: Paul, Yeah, I saw how it wasn't a church.
Speaker 6: But it was like it was where they had. It
Speaker 6: was where a church used to have dinners and like
Speaker 6: you know, like covered dish supper and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: And there was a young girl who was trapped down
Speaker 6: there and there was a fire in the basement and
Speaker 6: she died down there, and so there've always been stories
Speaker 6: about a little girl down there. And our friends Selene
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've had Selenae we did, okay.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. She told this story about like
Speaker 1: there was a ghost hunt.
Speaker 6: Yes, and but she also like had ah what is
Speaker 6: it called a medium come in and like where are
Speaker 6: my words today and basically do a reading and say
Speaker 6: that there's energy there and it's all in this like
Speaker 6: one area. It's like back in it's it's and this
Speaker 6: will be nothing to anyone listening to this, but you'll
Speaker 6: know exactly what I mean. Where Sam and I stand
Speaker 6: like over kind of backstage in this one little area.
Speaker 6: She said, it's really heavy. So for me what happened.
Speaker 6: We were doing the Facts of Life, and which we
Speaker 6: do an all drag version of lots of TV shows.
Speaker 6: You and I just did The Golden Girls last weekend,
Speaker 6: and so we were doing in the Facts of Life,
Speaker 6: and in that particular show, everyone else plays all the
Speaker 6: girls the show, and so they are on stage the
Speaker 6: whole time, and I was missus Garrett, so I kind
Speaker 6: of popped in and out. So I had a lot
Speaker 6: of time where I was just back there by myself.
Speaker 6: And there was a number where Sam all the characters
Speaker 6: had like talent shows they're doing. I love that I'm
Speaker 6: telling this story. It's so crazy. So Blair we do
Speaker 6: like a thing where they all have a talent show
Speaker 6: and Blair does a tap dancing number. So it's all
Speaker 6: pre recorded tap dancing, and Sam is pretending to do
Speaker 6: his own tap dancing and it goes on for way
Speaker 6: too long and it's clearly false, and it's comedy at
Speaker 6: its richest.
Speaker 7: And I was back.
Speaker 6: There and I don't know if it was something about
Speaker 6: like the noise of those tap of the tap dancing
Speaker 6: or whatever. But I heard full voice right behind me.
Speaker 6: I heard a little girl say I want socks. And
Speaker 6: I turned around. I go, what, like, I just it
Speaker 6: sounded like a little girl had come backstage behind me,
Speaker 6: and it was so clear, and I turned around. There
Speaker 6: was nobody behind me, and so.
Speaker 1: Is that all yow?
Speaker 6: So I was like, oh, that's the ghost. And I
Speaker 6: am not scared of ghosts. I think they're wonderful. And
Speaker 6: I like welcomed the energy, so, you know, and it's
Speaker 6: sort of there's something weirdly comforting to me about that,
Speaker 6: to know that, like there's just there's energy around us
Speaker 6: and even at that place, you know, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I heard it full voice. And then I told Jackie.
Speaker 6: Jackie beat was in the show. I told her about it,
Speaker 6: and she was like, oh my god, that giuse me
Speaker 6: chills and you know, and and she also was like,
Speaker 6: that's exactly what an eight year old girl would say,
Speaker 6: like I won't say it, not like.
Speaker 1: Heh the ghost. I'm speaking like me, I've got.
Speaker 6: Chains and said she is just so matter of fact
Speaker 6: and I don't know what caused it, but I didn't
Speaker 6: feel any sort of danger at all. I just was like, oh,
Speaker 6: there's a girl back here, like it immediately made sense
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then she probably tries on our wigs when we're
Speaker 1: not there.
Speaker 6: I bet she does.
Speaker 7: I was we have a bottle of Tabat sauce. It's
Speaker 7: a big joke in the show, and I fill it
Speaker 7: up with tomato juice and I put a straw in
Speaker 7: it and I suck it the whole thing down. It's
Speaker 7: like a joke anyway, and we just thought if we
Speaker 7: leave it there, the guy who cleans is gonna throw
Speaker 7: it away, thinking it's garbage. So we were all the
Speaker 7: lights were off, everybody was gone. It was me and
Speaker 7: Sam Pancake, and I said, oh, we need to get
Speaker 7: that Tabasco bottle and it's you know, across the room
Speaker 7: on the stage. Anyway, I said, get your phone and
Speaker 7: turn the light on. And then I heard somebody say
Speaker 7: something in the booth, which was like in the far
Speaker 7: back corner, you know, the tech booth, And I was like,
Speaker 7: is JT the sound guy back there? And he was
Speaker 7: I didn't hear what they said. This is a terrible story.
Speaker 7: Here's the good thing. It's all up hill from it's
Speaker 7: all uphill from here, and then what happened? Nothing? I
Speaker 7: heard a voice. Can't tell you what it said, but
Speaker 7: wait with the little girl?
Speaker 1: Was it a little girl?
Speaker 5: It was a little girl. And it turns out that.
Speaker 7: It was not a little girl's voice that I heard, but.
Speaker 5: Drew herd and the socks, and it turns out that
Speaker 5: a little girl had died there in a fire.
Speaker 7: That's the story. I don't know if it's confirmed. They
Speaker 7: said that it used to be a church or something.
Speaker 5: It was a kitchen down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I've heard people tell stories down there.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting how much time, at least the three
Speaker 1: of us have spent and not much has happened until
Speaker 1: like recently. I wonder what that is.
Speaker 7: That So could just be a bad chillery, know, let's be.
Speaker 1: Honest, like making it driven?
Speaker 7: Yeah, what was that noise?
Speaker 1: Sorry my stomach to say I want sock, he goes.
Speaker 5: You also kind of have to be, I think, in
Speaker 5: a receptive state. So maybe she's running around when we're
Speaker 5: getting ready for Golden Girls, but where no one's listening.
Speaker 7: Well, it was all bottoms in that ready to receive.
Speaker 5: Come on, I was, and there was a whole thing
Speaker 5: about socks in the Facts of Life, which was interesting.
Speaker 5: There's a whole like we all had to wear like
Speaker 5: girl tube socks and Dan wasn't it. Danielle brought in
Speaker 5: like all these different rainbows rainbows and different things and so.
Speaker 7: Oh and we had this whole thing where I was
Speaker 7: deciding whether I was going to wear socks or not.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of just fitting that I didn't even
Speaker 5: think of that.
Speaker 1: The little girl was there the whole time and she's like, exactly,
Speaker 1: I want socks. Oh my god. So yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: now you know what we're dealing with. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the live show. It's going to start off with Pleasant
Speaker 1: game and we kind of did the show a little
Speaker 1: bit like you know, Tonight Show style, where I had
Speaker 1: Pleasant come out and then I had her move over
Speaker 1: and we had Deborah come out, and then the two
Speaker 1: of them were there for the rest of the interview.
Speaker 1: And uh, we do acknowledge a couple of times mister Dan,
Speaker 1: who was there. Mister Dan has been the owner and
Speaker 1: I believe you know, he's someone like created the Cavern
Speaker 1: Club theater down there for a couple of decades now,
Speaker 1: and he was actually a great useful tool because he
Speaker 1: knew a little bit about the history down there. And
Speaker 1: one of the coolest parts is well, two things premiered
Speaker 1: at the live show. First thing was our merchandise, which
Speaker 1: for right now it is only I'm only selling it
Speaker 1: at select live shows. You know, if you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna come to a live show of mine of some sort,
Speaker 1: send me a message if you want me to bring some.
Speaker 1: I'll figure out a way eventually to get it on
Speaker 1: the internet, hopefully maybe before Christmas. And you know, people
Speaker 1: can buy the merch there. But we do have our candles,
Speaker 1: which are really cute. I have a picture on my
Speaker 1: Instagram of what those look like. And my ev please
Speaker 1: pins and stickers we were selling at the live show
Speaker 1: as well. And the other thing that I premiered at
Speaker 1: the live show is the full length version of the
Speaker 1: theme song, which nobody has ever heard. It's a song
Speaker 1: about dating a ghost and what happened when I dated
Speaker 1: a ghost. It's a real story, it's real life, it
Speaker 1: really happened, I swear, So enjoy the show. I'll talk
Speaker 1: to you at the end. Okay, So what happened the
Speaker 1: night that Selena did her little investigation bachelorette party.
Speaker 4: Well, we were in here and the first thing was
Speaker 4: Margaret Chow was one of the guests and she felt
Speaker 4: it getting like really called in a seat. And then
Speaker 4: we got on the meters near there and there was
Speaker 4: like spirit stuff. We did somebody I can't remember who.
Speaker 4: It might have been Margaret or it might have been Seleni.
Speaker 4: Someone took a bunch of pictures that had weird stuff
Speaker 4: on them, like orbs and like streaks, And whenever you're
Speaker 4: taking pictures in a paranormal investigation, you have to take
Speaker 4: at least three because sometimes there's like an anomaly in
Speaker 4: between two normal ones where there's weird stuff on the
Speaker 4: film that wasn't there, like missed or fought or orbs.
Speaker 1: Actually someone vaping.
Speaker 4: No, there's a yeah, no one was vaping down here.
Speaker 1: Wait. So, but Selena also told me that somebody sat
Speaker 1: the chair next to Margaret show had a very cold.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was cold. It was freezing.
Speaker 1: It was like freezing cold, and when anytime anyone touched
Speaker 1: it was like freezing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the arms like it had been in a refrigerator.
Speaker 1: And she also told me that you guys used some
Speaker 1: kind of device and you were you figured out that
Speaker 1: it was the gunman.
Speaker 4: Yes, we had an ovelis at that investigation. That ovelis
Speaker 4: got stolen. And the ovelis is it's a it's like
Speaker 4: a little it looks like a little like sort of
Speaker 4: handhald machine, kind of like that other thing. But it's
Speaker 4: got a thesaurus in it, and you can you can
Speaker 4: ask spirits questions, and some ovelises will just go through
Speaker 4: they'll start cycling through words. But if you ask a
Speaker 4: question and you get an intelligent answer, and then you
Speaker 4: ask it again and an intelligent answer comes back, that's
Speaker 4: that's not you just after vaping. I mean, that's you know.
Speaker 4: So it was talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said that you asked her what it wanted
Speaker 1: and it said margarita. Now you said do you want
Speaker 1: a margarita? And I said, yes, margarita. That's what she
Speaker 1: told me.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean they really they really sacred. Didn't
Speaker 4: we talk? We talked about what they did we talk about. Okay,
Speaker 4: here's a good example. I don't think I can't remember
Speaker 4: if I said this.
Speaker 1: On the last mom Sorry, no, not.
Speaker 4: The mom when this was from that same investigation though,
Speaker 4: So there was all these spirits around a Halloween haunt
Speaker 4: that had had all that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you told us?
Speaker 4: Did I tell you what that spirit said about living there?
Speaker 1: What they said?
Speaker 4: Oh this is so great. We were there. Okay, first
Speaker 4: of all, we were there with this really burley like
Speaker 4: butch straight camera mon.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, per normal investigation.
Speaker 4: Yeah totally, except he was all man explaining us there
Speaker 4: was no such fucking thing as ghosts. That is your type. Asa.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: He had some really nice thick socks on. Any anyway, anyways.
Speaker 1: Well they bombas, Yes, they were bombas. They make socks,
Speaker 1: it's called bombus. Check them out. I like them bombas bumbas.
Speaker 1: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: I feel I just felt like Charo, except with last College.
Speaker 1: And Honey, I don't endorse anybody's Instagram more than I
Speaker 1: do Charros. You should check Outros.
Speaker 4: Wait I saw Okay, this is so off topic. I
Speaker 4: saw Charo in the security line at LAX. But it
Speaker 4: was like six thirty in the morning, and she didn't
Speaker 4: have any makeup on, and she was like getting her
Speaker 4: shoes into like the containers and stuff, and I was
Speaker 4: just like but then I was like just out of
Speaker 4: like my sense of gentility and courtesy. I was like,
Speaker 4: I can't talk to her right now, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 1: Yea, Well I heard that she has a sister that
Speaker 1: looks almost exactly like her. It could have been her.
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe.
Speaker 1: Anyway, back to ghosts, it.
Speaker 4: Was an apparition, Okay, okay, So so we were in
Speaker 4: this part of the Halloween Haunt and it's called Hobbs
Speaker 4: Grove and where actors had seen like these giant like
Speaker 4: you know, those big wooden things like tables if they wrapped. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So there was this thing called the Redneck Camp there
Speaker 4: and it was five trailers, and a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: people wouldn't go that worked there, wouldn't go near one
Speaker 4: because someone heard growling, Like someone went in there and
Speaker 4: got like a crazy scratch just from opening the door
Speaker 4: but not from on the wood, and like they didn't
Speaker 4: like it. So we numbered the trailers one through five
Speaker 4: to try to figure out which one was haunted, and
Speaker 4: then we started getting a lot of activity on the ovelis.
Speaker 4: The rampod was lit up like a Christmas tree, and finally,
Speaker 4: just to sort of like break the ice, I just said,
Speaker 4: so how do you how do you guys like living
Speaker 4: at a Halloween Haunt? And it immediately came on the ovelist.
Speaker 1: It's perfect, I know it. I couldn't ask for anymore.
Speaker 4: And wait, and when that happened, the redneck guy like
Speaker 4: we're like where is this? Is he getting this on film?
Speaker 4: And my investigation partner Tom he was just like he
Speaker 4: was like running down the thing and she like ran
Speaker 4: after Him's like, I didn't sign up for this, man,
Speaker 4: I'm no.
Speaker 1: He was horrified. Oh my god, he's fo that's so funny.
Speaker 1: I want to bring out another our second guest. Cool,
Speaker 1: cool with you guys, So how about how about we'll
Speaker 1: have you step up. I want you to stay here though, okay,
Speaker 1: because you're you've got some great insight on this. I
Speaker 1: want to bring out somebody that I am absolutely you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up just idolizing on television and now and
Speaker 1: spiritually now I idolize this person as well. Here's a
Speaker 1: fun story. Okay, I hope you can't me tell you this. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we did this movie together that will be out
Speaker 1: one of these days. And we had this scene where okay,
Speaker 1: I had to be on stage and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I heard something again upstairs. Okay. So I had to
Speaker 1: do this scene where I was like on stage and
Speaker 1: it was like a party, and I was like hosting
Speaker 1: the party, and I was like kind of nervous, and
Speaker 1: I was also really tired. And this person was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know you screaming and dancing and having the time
Speaker 1: of their lives as you. I'm sure you can imagine,
Speaker 1: and uh, I was just like, man, Deborah, I want
Speaker 1: some of that energy, give me some of that what
Speaker 1: you got. I want to want to be on your level.
Speaker 1: And so she does this thing where she goes, she
Speaker 1: takes her boom and she goes and I was just
Speaker 1: showering in it. And I've never been the same since.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentleman Deborah Wilson to them, shut them with
Speaker 1: your tennis. Shut them. I love it.
Speaker 8: Hi tembrah hi, Hi, everybody, Happy Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I heard you singing backstage playing my music. I know
Speaker 1: that was good. I know. I'm like, I can't sing
Speaker 1: like that. I'm the reason drag Queen's lip sync. But
Speaker 1: who you are? Bad?
Speaker 2: I am?
Speaker 1: Okay. The night is young, So Deborah, let us talk
Speaker 1: about ghosts. First of all, what where Oh you got bombas?
Speaker 1: She's wearing bombas? Aren't they so comfortable? I love they
Speaker 1: are so comfortable bombas. Okay, So have you encountered any
Speaker 1: ghosts since the last time I saw you?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I have not. And that's the interview. That's
Speaker 1: all I had. That was the only question I had.
Speaker 4: Deba. Let's talk about the Queen Mary quest.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I recently went to the Queen Mary and
Speaker 1: I feel like there was no ghost there. I feel
Speaker 1: like you guys scared them away or something. What happened?
Speaker 2: You know what? My thing is this, we have a
Speaker 2: tendency as human beings. This is not thank you, there
Speaker 2: are thank you. We have a tendency as human beings
Speaker 2: to want them to show up when we we want
Speaker 2: to show up because we want to be this open vessel.
Speaker 2: We want to be this open energy that says, you know,
Speaker 2: this is what I want to see and this is
Speaker 2: what I want proven to me, and this is what
Speaker 2: I want to happen. And so our mindset is perform
Speaker 2: our mindset and our intention is I need to have
Speaker 2: proof and matt energy. Depending upon if it's residual or intellectual,
Speaker 2: know what that haunting is. It doesn't happen on Q.
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen on Q, And it depends on where
Speaker 2: you're holding the investigation. But I did a paranormal investigation
Speaker 2: of the Queen Mary for a documentary when I was
Speaker 2: doing paranormal investigations with a very very well known psychic
Speaker 2: and clairvoyant named Peter James.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you told us about this Yes episode and you.
Speaker 2: Heard how many people know who Peter James's or knew
Speaker 2: who Peter James was research him. He was very very
Speaker 2: well known, and in fact, there was a show in
Speaker 2: the nineties called Sightings and he was constantly on there,
Speaker 2: and he lived in West Hollywood and he they were
Speaker 2: always around him anyway, And we did the investigation and
Speaker 2: I was a part of his team, and four hundred
Speaker 2: and five hundred were reported over the years that he's
Speaker 2: done it.
Speaker 1: Four hundred five hundred ghosts. Oh yeah, different.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, entities, different energies. And see it's interesting we
Speaker 2: always have this one word for things like that's a ghost.
Speaker 2: Some it's a residual energy. It's just energy. We're all energy.
Speaker 2: We will all pass into energy when we leave this
Speaker 2: physical and biological vessel. It just depends on the energy
Speaker 2: that it takes on. And metal attracts. So when you're
Speaker 2: talking about salt water, which is a conductor water, which
Speaker 2: is a conductor of the electromagnetic spectrum. Plus you're talking
Speaker 2: about metal. He heard something that no one heard. We
Speaker 2: were in the hull of the ship, and we had
Speaker 2: permission to be in certain areas where no one else
Speaker 2: was allowed. And the way below the boiler roo. We
Speaker 2: weren't below the boiler We were below sea level at
Speaker 2: that point. We were at the hull, so we were
Speaker 2: at below sea level at that point. We had permission
Speaker 2: to be there. And he kept going like this, He
Speaker 2: kept going, do you hear that? Do you hear that?
Speaker 2: No one heard anything. And even the person who had
Speaker 2: on you know, the sound guy who had a boom,
Speaker 2: we were lobbed, we were recording, he was recording, heard
Speaker 2: nothing when he played it back, because Peter kept saying,
Speaker 2: do you hear them falling? Do you hear them falling?
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: The Queen Mary was once a ship that was used
Speaker 2: in World War Two. It was called the Gray ghostost
Speaker 2: the Gray Ghost, And what ended up happening was is
Speaker 2: it had a mission. It had a prime directive. It
Speaker 2: was leaving to go on a mission and it hit
Speaker 2: a ship, another ship called the Courrousaw, and it split
Speaker 2: the ship, and it had a prime directive not to
Speaker 2: stop Hitler's prime directive was to get this ship, to
Speaker 2: get the Gray Ghost. And it hit the SS Courroussow
Speaker 2: and the way it hit it and.
Speaker 4: Split it three hundred people lest it.
Speaker 2: Was folded in half and went straight down. So by
Speaker 2: the time it hit the Propellers, people had been killed,
Speaker 2: men had been killed and gone under water. And so
Speaker 2: people were jumping off the corrosaw as fast as they could,
Speaker 2: those who could, and screaming for their lives and screaming
Speaker 2: to help, and hitting the hull of the Gray Ghosts,
Speaker 2: hitting of the Queen Married before they went under. So
Speaker 2: Peter James was going, do you hear that? Do you
Speaker 2: hear that? Do you hear them? Do you hear them falling?
Speaker 2: And we had no idea, not even the sound guy.
Speaker 2: The sound guy just had his equipment on it just went.
Speaker 2: When he played it back, all you could hear in
Speaker 2: the hull of the ship wash.
Speaker 1: You could hear men.
Speaker 2: And it was and it wasn't just a regular like
Speaker 2: not like a noise, but men. You can hear from
Speaker 2: a falling sound like ah, you can hear men screaming,
Speaker 2: oh my God, and crying and screaming and crying. That
Speaker 2: was one of the events. Another one was there was
Speaker 2: a locked door, and it was of course on any ship,
Speaker 2: especially at the hull, it's going to be a heavy,
Speaker 2: thick door, and this had to be at least three
Speaker 2: inches of steel. Three inch steel door. There was a
Speaker 2: loud bang and we were on a gangplank and it
Speaker 2: actually shook the gangplank. We got security to come down
Speaker 2: and open it up, and it was empty. The third
Speaker 2: class swimming pool has always a little girl, and she
Speaker 2: made her presence known. She meant she said, goodbye.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you told me that story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So, I mean he had done Peter James
Speaker 2: had done a ton of investigations for years. In fact,
Speaker 2: he was sponsored by the Queen Mary to do an
Speaker 2: investigation and found out information historically about the ship and
Speaker 2: those that were on the ship, more than the people
Speaker 2: who were the historians who would who had were currently working.
Speaker 2: He channeled too. Yeah, he went into a serious channeling
Speaker 2: and brought up a captain and they said, there's no
Speaker 2: such record of this captain. We have no record of
Speaker 2: this captain, and they eventually found it.
Speaker 1: So you're saying like they embodied him yes, like hem
Speaker 1: it it wait, what do you mean it wise? When we.
Speaker 2: Could be yes, when we're when we're energy. Here's what
Speaker 2: I find very very interesting. I find find people who
Speaker 2: people who come to this planet and then identify as
Speaker 2: non binary.
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about whenever?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm talking about when when Peter
Speaker 2: allowed this spirit to enter oh and use his physical vessel.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 2: But but I I agin having a kinship with people
Speaker 2: who say I'm non binary, I'm not male, and I'm
Speaker 2: not female. I think they tend to be closer to
Speaker 2: an authentic self than people who will judge and tell
Speaker 2: you because of your physical body parts, you are this
Speaker 2: and you can't be anything else. You're not supposed to
Speaker 2: be that. As energy, I think they have a closer
Speaker 2: relationship with being energy and not being bound by the
Speaker 2: earthbane bound plane of everybody else's idea of what you
Speaker 2: should be. And so when energy wants to work and
Speaker 2: energy wants to move through you, it has the power
Speaker 2: to do that. As actually for an open vessel that
Speaker 2: says I am not beholden to somebody else's idea or
Speaker 2: a society's idea, or a government's idea of what I
Speaker 2: am as I continue to matriculate through this experience to
Speaker 2: kind of uncover and rediscover the truth of my energy.
Speaker 2: And I think when energy gets used, it is neither
Speaker 2: male or female, it is simply energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, Yeah, that's how I live my life on earth.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love that, But I've had other investigations where
Speaker 2: forty five minute conversations.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Because one thing that you kind of really
Speaker 1: pointed out for me was when you talked about this
Speaker 1: time you were at Hollywood Center Studios and you felt
Speaker 1: an energy and it was a dark energy and it
Speaker 1: was she didn't die there. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't a death.
Speaker 1: It was just like something horrible had happened to somebody there,
Speaker 1: and you were telling that's the first time I ever
Speaker 1: heard about you talking about like how energies can leave
Speaker 1: an imprint. And I've thought about that a lot since
Speaker 1: you told me about it, and I think about that
Speaker 1: for positive energies as well. And that's why for me
Speaker 1: here it's always such a there's just so much love
Speaker 1: in this basement, Like it always just feels like the
Speaker 1: kids are playing downstairs when mom and dad are upstairs,
Speaker 1: you know, like we're just like having a good time
Speaker 1: down here, and I think because of that, like anytime
Speaker 1: I walk in even tonight, like with the ghosts on
Speaker 1: my brain, I like walk in here and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just feel so much love in this building, you know.
Speaker 1: So you think it goes both ways.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because I think again, people who want to do
Speaker 2: investigations they want something, and so whatever you focus on
Speaker 2: increases in life, and anything whatever you focus on increases.
Speaker 2: So we have a tendency to go, Okay, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to look at all the factors, all the contributing
Speaker 2: factors that say that it is not. I'm only going
Speaker 2: to pay attention to the things that I believe are.
Speaker 2: And so when you do that, you solidify something. And
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean you've solidified a truth. You've only
Speaker 2: solidified your belief in something. And I think for an
Speaker 2: investigation to be as objective as possible, you need to
Speaker 2: eliminate all of the things that were the other possibilities.
Speaker 2: You need to eliminate those things and say, Okay, here's
Speaker 2: the physical elimination, here's the scientific elimination, here's all these eliminations.
Speaker 2: And I'm going by my gut, but let me eliminate
Speaker 2: all these things where the wind blows and you're not
Speaker 2: realizing that it's an air conditioning or a pipe, or
Speaker 2: wood starts to creak and you don't realize that in
Speaker 2: humidity and in cold, wood buckles, so it creaks and
Speaker 2: makes certain sounds, and it can actually sound like steps
Speaker 2: the way something is slanted. If you have a glass
Speaker 2: on a table and it's got a little bit of
Speaker 2: water under the bottom of it, it will hold itself
Speaker 2: and then hold itself and then eventually slide. And people
Speaker 2: have a potency to go, oh, that has to be
Speaker 2: what it is. And so for me, when I'm doing investigations,
Speaker 2: I always go, let's look at all the possibilities. Let's
Speaker 2: eliminate all those possibilities as much as possible. So when
Speaker 2: I felt that energy up in Hollywood Center studios, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that that is not at all.
Speaker 2: I just know that I feel that way. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: validate my feeling, so I'm not gonna call it anything.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave that room. And there were three of
Speaker 2: those rooms. I went into each room and I just
Speaker 2: sat for a while and went, Okay, I'm not feeling anything.
Speaker 2: Went back into the room. It was three times as powerful.
Speaker 2: It was three times as emotionally in psychological powerl So
Speaker 2: then I started doing my research because by the third
Speaker 2: time I was I had lost my stuff. I lost
Speaker 2: my shit. And it wasn't fear. It was the feeling
Speaker 2: that the punishment and the anger and the sorrow and
Speaker 2: the violence were overwhelming. But that person did not die.
Speaker 2: There abusive, very abusive, beaten, and at the same time
Speaker 2: the experience was beaten. And didn't know that that was
Speaker 2: going to happen, beaten and didn't know that that was
Speaker 2: going to get as brutal as it was. So I
Speaker 2: went to the lot manager who had been a manager
Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry and at Hollywood Centers studios for
Speaker 2: close to twenty years. His name is Pat Davis.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he knew all the history. Yeah you told
Speaker 1: he knew all the Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Pat Davis said that the studios used to run
Speaker 2: brothels for all their leaves, and uh, they had young angeinews.
Speaker 2: And if you wanted to be famous, and if you
Speaker 2: wanted to get with someone, and if if you wanted
Speaker 2: to be under a studio contract, and and you wanted
Speaker 2: to go from selling cigars and cigarettes to getting dance
Speaker 2: lessons and boobs and and and hitting the stage and
Speaker 2: hitting the lights. You would have to pay your dues
Speaker 2: this way, and they would have the stars and the
Speaker 2: starlets come under there were there's a tunnel system. And
Speaker 2: in that tunnel system at Hollywood Center Studios, there was
Speaker 2: a bowling alley. There were bars underneath. They're all no
Speaker 2: longer there and they're been closed off. Pardon me for
Speaker 2: turning my back to you for so long. And so,
Speaker 2: but upstairs were the brothels. Upstairs were the brothels. And
Speaker 2: and someone was beaten savagely up in there. That's what
Speaker 2: it feels like to me.
Speaker 1: So when you do you go other places and feel energy. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's happened other places, Queen Mary.
Speaker 4: To me, Oh my god, the Queen Mary is crazy.
Speaker 4: And I also sent and I've had like physical manifestations
Speaker 4: of stuff there that I couldn't explain even I'm like you,
Speaker 4: I get I go through. I become the worst skeptic
Speaker 4: on my own investigations. I was like, no, this is
Speaker 4: coming from an air conditioning vent, dude, this is coming
Speaker 4: from this eliminator. Yeah, so one time I'll tell two
Speaker 4: short manifestations and stuff. One time I was walking down
Speaker 4: the corridor on the B deck, and I was just like,
Speaker 4: I was like almost knocked over by the scent of roses,
Speaker 4: which is like a really common scent for spirits to manifest,
Speaker 4: Like I mean, just like real rose perfume. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: so I was like whoo. And then I immediately was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that must have come from those stairs. And then I
Speaker 4: realized they had the doors, and then I was like, well,
Speaker 4: who just walked by me? And there was no one there,
Speaker 4: and I was already looking at this empty, shining looking corridor,
Speaker 4: and so then I was like, am I really smelling this?
Speaker 4: And so I start to just like like a bull,
Speaker 4: like a bloodhound, and then I guess to the point
Speaker 4: where I'm like like that it was only like right
Speaker 4: here around me. You could like step out of it,
Speaker 4: like it was going through like a wall, and then
Speaker 4: it wasn't there. It was like contained. So that was bizarre.
Speaker 4: And then nowadays they have those little plaques up everywhere
Speaker 4: where someone has like eighty people have seen a ghost
Speaker 4: here or whatever. But then the other thing that happened
Speaker 4: to me during a different time, I was staying there
Speaker 4: overnight to do investigations, and my Calbin seemed totally normal.
Speaker 4: And I was with two girls roommates and in the
Speaker 4: middle of the night, I got up and I stepped
Speaker 4: on something and I didn't have my glasses on, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, totally blind without them. It's just like no,
Speaker 4: but in the name of glamor and no glasses. Otherwise
Speaker 4: my eyelashes would be going like when child wipers against Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4: So I stepped on something and I picked it up
Speaker 4: and it was this big, cool hair pin with a
Speaker 4: big giant pearl on it, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: that wasn't there earlier or when I went to bed,
Speaker 4: And I mean, the cabins aren't that big, you know,
Speaker 4: They're like the size of the stage with three beds
Speaker 4: in them or something. So in the morning, when of
Speaker 4: the girls woke up and I was like, is either
Speaker 4: one of these yours and they both said no, And
Speaker 4: then I said to one of them, this looks like
Speaker 4: something that you would have. She says, well, actually, I
Speaker 4: have five hairpins just like that. And I was like,
Speaker 4: did it fall out of your suitcase? And she's like no.
Speaker 4: She unzips her suitcase. She goes into like a makeup
Speaker 4: bag and there was five hairpins that matched that one
Speaker 4: exactly in her sealed makeup bag, in a sealed baggye
Speaker 4: within it. And I was like, okay, well now you
Speaker 4: have six. Then I went walking No, I know, I
Speaker 4: thought that was weird. So then I went walking up
Speaker 4: cause like on the underdecks, you can't get cell service.
Speaker 4: So I was up on the deck and I was
Speaker 4: sitting there talking to someone and I looked down and
Speaker 4: there was another fucking hair pin. This one was a
Speaker 4: little smaller, but it was the same thing. It was
Speaker 4: a pearl hairpin. And I'm going it was there a
Speaker 4: wedding on here that must have come from a bridesmaid
Speaker 4: or something. But then how did it get in the
Speaker 4: other one, the big one get into my cabin. So
Speaker 4: then I decided to call and make sure my my
Speaker 4: then significant other was taking care of the cats. And
Speaker 4: I started calling and it said pleasant gayman and two
Speaker 4: others are calling home. And I looked at my phone
Speaker 4: and I was like, what okay? But then I kept
Speaker 4: seeing like I came home from there with like all
Speaker 4: sorts of like pearl hair things. That happened like three
Speaker 4: more times on the way.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 2: My mom called me after she passed yeah what my
Speaker 2: mother called me.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I've had that too. Really yeah, phone is
Speaker 4: like a really kind of a comment.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah I've heard that before.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm but I'm still on the sense thing. Like
Speaker 1: so ghosts smell like roses when they die.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's a really a lot of people
Speaker 4: smell like tobacco or pipe. So a lot of times
Speaker 4: people will smell something that's it's from, uh something that
Speaker 4: like there was a scent of their relatives, like say
Speaker 4: some guy used the aqua velvet or something like they'll
Speaker 4: smell that unique thing like you know, oh Dad is
Speaker 4: here or something, you know, because like it I've noticed
Speaker 4: that it's usually kind of isolated when when But that
Speaker 4: that Queen Marry thing was weird because it was like
Speaker 4: seriously like there was like a little square box of
Speaker 4: scent that was just only right there hanging. Have you
Speaker 4: ever seen those like lights in the rooms that look
Speaker 4: like electric spaghetti in the Queen Marry.
Speaker 1: They look like they have electric spaghetti at the Queen Mary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got as I've heard everything got acid in
Speaker 4: a baby. No. No, it's like I woke up and
Speaker 4: I saw this, like these lights. It looked like kind
Speaker 4: of like weird morphing celtic knots and you know when
Speaker 4: you don't you know, when it's dark in a room
Speaker 4: and you and so I was looking at it. I
Speaker 4: was like, is that coming from the portal? And I
Speaker 4: looked and there was not the portal, the porthole, so
Speaker 4: there was like there was light coming from there, but
Speaker 4: there was nothing moving. And then I was looking at it.
Speaker 4: And then this was a different roommate I had, so
Speaker 4: I wake up, do you see this?
Speaker 1: Do you see this?
Speaker 4: And she woke up and she went, yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 4: And I was like, what do you think it is?
Speaker 4: And she's like, I don't know. And then I said
Speaker 4: watch this and I went over and I was like
Speaker 4: putting my hand on it and it was reacting. It
Speaker 4: was like moving away and then going around it and stuff.
Speaker 4: And so then the next record it I tried to
Speaker 4: but my you know, shitty phone hashtag shitty phue. But
Speaker 4: so we did get really good em ups from them,
Speaker 4: and we got a really great ovelist thing. This is
Speaker 4: okay this one.
Speaker 1: You were like, wait, did you get any EVPs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got EVPs, We got emf hits. I mean
Speaker 4: we got the EVPs on there were crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold up, I found some EVPs. You want to
Speaker 1: listen to the.
Speaker 4: Queen Mary, It's time for EVPs.
Speaker 1: Ev please Now, these are just random.
Speaker 2: Ones where you start. Does everyone so that everybody is
Speaker 2: in the loop. Does everyone know what an EVP is?
Speaker 2: Electronic voice phenomena? Just checking so no one feels like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So what I like to do is I
Speaker 1: like to go to YouTube and I like to find
Speaker 1: ghost voices. And both of you have played this game
Speaker 1: with me. It's a very simple game. I got some EVPs.
Speaker 1: I want you to guess what you think the paranormal
Speaker 1: investigator believes the ghost to say.
Speaker 4: Can we pretend game show?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I'll give you options and everything. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the first one I found, The first one I found
Speaker 1: is from somebody named Haunted Experience. Answers that that's how
Speaker 1: they spelled it out, know if it was a mistake
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 4: It's like a heavy heavy metal investigators.
Speaker 1: Sure haunted Haunted Experiences, and this is from a ghost
Speaker 1: that was in their room. So play the first ev P.
Speaker 1: Please shut up, bitch, No, we might just say ghosted bitch.
Speaker 2: YEA play it again.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was that was pretend you just sampled?
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like maybe we might have just
Speaker 1: we just played back. Okay. Oh, mister Dan is getting aggressive?
Speaker 4: Okay, ghosted bitch?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I want you to guess. You really think
Speaker 1: it says ghosted bitch?
Speaker 4: It sounded just like it. But maybe I'm not all
Speaker 4: the week convinced. I'm skeptical.
Speaker 2: One more time.
Speaker 1: You don't mind? Now I will say I think that
Speaker 1: this was from England. I think again. Don't trust me
Speaker 1: on facts. Okay, go experience.
Speaker 4: That's how they spell out in England.
Speaker 1: Is it ghasted bitch? Okay? Oh toaster bitch.
Speaker 4: Toast?
Speaker 1: I'm a toast toast. Okay, do you want options? You'll
Speaker 1: have any guesses? Okay? Is it a say what? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 4: What didn't you say?
Speaker 1: Spirit is here? Okay, it's sad? Is it a don't
Speaker 1: you wait? No?
Speaker 4: Say it within English accent?
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I don't do accents. A doubt
Speaker 1: you read? Don't you mean in sault to look at
Speaker 1: someone and go doubt?
Speaker 7: You read?
Speaker 1: That's me? Is it b go to bed?
Speaker 4: Go to bed?
Speaker 1: Is it c not Joe cheese?
Speaker 4: No, they don't have that in the UK.
Speaker 1: You don't know their lives or is it d gotta sig?
Speaker 4: I think it's go to bed.
Speaker 1: I think play it again? What are you think?
Speaker 4: And talking to mic I think she was shoving some
Speaker 4: kids in an oven when she said that, Oh no, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: That's a little too What do you think? Do you
Speaker 1: have a guess?
Speaker 2: Let's go to natural cheese.
Speaker 1: The real answer was shoe to bed with a British accent.
Speaker 4: What about you've been very naughty?
Speaker 1: Hold up, wait a minute, wait a minute, everybody calmed down.
Speaker 4: You've been very very naughty.
Speaker 11: I I feel I want I feel like, I feel
Speaker 11: like I just got a little glimmer of Valic from
Speaker 11: the Nun.
Speaker 4: Wait, say, I want socks and a demon.
Speaker 1: Some people might not know this, but Deborah Wilson does
Speaker 1: demon voices in movies. Can we get a little glimpse please?
Speaker 2: In the third Conjuring the Conjuring film when with the Nun,
Speaker 2: when she possessed everyone, I did all of the demon
Speaker 2: voices for everyone that she possessed.
Speaker 1: People cloud That's such a funny. I mean, it's an
Speaker 1: amazing thing, but it also it's funny to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, you possess people.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's have it's funny to let's let's continue.
Speaker 1: And I will say go to bed, okay, and balk
Speaker 1: will come back. Okay, Let's do another e VP Okay,
Speaker 1: this one I believe. Also, Okay, it's it's from someone
Speaker 1: named rock Raccoon eighty six and uh it's at the
Speaker 1: the Draklo Tunnels, which are north of kidder Minster, Worcestershire.
Speaker 4: How come you? How come you always pick English one?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's because you're a classic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. So all right, play the e v P.
Speaker 1: It's really loud. Okay, but it's a lot of loud
Speaker 1: in the background.
Speaker 4: Pee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a whisper or something. Let's hear it again.
Speaker 1: See Okay, you can hear a whisper. I'm touching, touching.
Speaker 1: You don't touch me.
Speaker 4: I touch myself when I think of you.
Speaker 1: I kind of doesn't sound like that. You want to
Speaker 1: hear it again, Debra, Okay, one more time.
Speaker 2: I touched. It sounds like I touch you.
Speaker 1: I touch you. Okay. Here's some options. First option, A
Speaker 1: pay attention, be cruel intentions. Maybe it like the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine from cruel intentions. I don't know. Is it
Speaker 1: c get my dentures? Maybe I need a denture so
Speaker 1: you can hear it better.
Speaker 4: I mean I really at first thought it said have
Speaker 4: to pee?
Speaker 1: Or is it d how much you bench pros? Let's
Speaker 1: hear it again. Curl Intentions.
Speaker 4: Somebody likes Race with Aspoon.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, the demon that loves the movie Curl
Speaker 1: Intentions has just arrived.
Speaker 4: Reese Witherspoon, is that ship?
Speaker 1: Wait to see in that movie? In that movie? Ray?
Speaker 4: Did you see her election?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Election? Another Reese Witherspoon, fucking brilliant?
Speaker 4: And will you please say you're sorry I touched your
Speaker 4: new tattoo. Will you please say your mother sucks cocks
Speaker 4: and help please.
Speaker 1: Just hear me? Yeah, yah ma meassx cocks.
Speaker 2: I thank you.
Speaker 9: Okay, your mother sucks socks in hell?
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to hear more.
Speaker 4: YSOs bomba socks.
Speaker 1: Now the ultimate plug for bombas. So we thought it
Speaker 1: would be fun to just sort of have like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a seance. Okay. Now, some people might
Speaker 1: be like scared or triggered or like anything like that.
Speaker 1: If you feel the need to like go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it for like five to ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and you can certainly leave, but come back because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna perform for the first time in history, the full
Speaker 1: length version of our theme song. Okay, so pleasant, you
Speaker 1: are going to be leading us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think we need to audience volunteers.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, do we have to audio? We got one
Speaker 1: over there. You pick someone from this section back there
Speaker 1: with two hands.
Speaker 4: You know you don't you don't like Ouiji buds, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 2: I've had an experience with Wija board once and that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oiji boards can be scary, but.
Speaker 2: Listen pleasant not toys.
Speaker 4: No, I know that.
Speaker 1: We need you to uh set our minds at ease
Speaker 1: when it comes to Wigi boards, okay, because I'm a
Speaker 1: little scared by them too.
Speaker 4: Well, I Meaniji woods. It's lately here.
Speaker 2: Can I bless everyone?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 1: Do please?
Speaker 4: Who wants the skulls?
Speaker 1: She's gonna blindfold you.
Speaker 4: Yes, so you can't your names Delora Anet.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for being here. Okay, So
Speaker 1: what's going to happen is we're going to blindfold you.
Speaker 4: You guys sit in the help.
Speaker 1: Okay, the two of you are gonna sit here. Now
Speaker 1: Pleasant is gonna do her thing. I'm just gonna be
Speaker 1: doing drag queen commentary in the corner.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, first of all, as we're doing this, you
Speaker 4: can well do you want me to do it? That'll
Speaker 4: cost you.
Speaker 1: Now I'll do it basically with you being blindfolded. We're
Speaker 1: going to use a Wiji board, and so basically this
Speaker 1: is gonna make sure that you're not cheating, so you're
Speaker 1: not going to be looking.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I just gotta say, really, Wigi boards. They
Speaker 4: say it's a toy, but it's not a toy. It
Speaker 4: is like it is like you can you can call
Speaker 4: in all sorts of entities. It's you know that Charlie
Speaker 4: Charlie game that was going around with like horfying shit
Speaker 4: happening with school kids. Well, if you're ever playing playing
Speaker 4: in quotes with the Ouiji boyd and someone comes through
Speaker 4: there and it's like pretending or saying it's your grandma
Speaker 4: or your friend that died or something, you have to
Speaker 4: really go through a lot of things like ask questions
Speaker 4: that would have any answer that only you know. You
Speaker 4: should always cleanse your house, You should cleanse yourself before
Speaker 4: and after there's various ways of doing that. Black urmaline
Speaker 4: is good solting windows so that you don't get spirits
Speaker 4: coming in, using sage to cleanse, and then Palo Santo,
Speaker 4: you should like sage each other off, like I'm pretending
Speaker 4: to do here, especially if you don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 4: We're just going to try to see if we can
Speaker 4: talk to someone from here, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should either try to talk to
Speaker 1: the little girl or the man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have something, and just to add on and
Speaker 2: supplement what you're saying. All of those things are actions
Speaker 2: of your own energy. So if you don't believe in them,
Speaker 2: or if you're using them thinking you are going to
Speaker 2: cleanse something, it doesn't work. The reason that doesn't work is, again,
Speaker 2: your energy is a projection of everything that you manifest.
Speaker 2: So it's important to know where your energy is coming from.
Speaker 2: It's important to know what your intention is. It's important
Speaker 2: to know because you're the living energy in this space.
Speaker 2: You're just holding biological space. Your energy is infinite and
Speaker 2: you're holding biological space. So a lot of times when
Speaker 2: you're curious about something but don't know enough, whatever energy
Speaker 2: comes in knows how vulnerable you are because you have
Speaker 2: a either don't have a belief system or want to
Speaker 2: experiment with something that you get in over your head.
Speaker 2: So what I want to do is I want you
Speaker 2: to have the opportunity for each and every one of you,
Speaker 2: at least in this moment, regardless of your belief system
Speaker 2: or lack thereof, to consider yourself like a jar. Have
Speaker 2: you ever seen those things where these antiques are put
Speaker 2: in jars and there's a big glass tube that sits.
Speaker 4: Over it, a bel jar, like a bell jar.
Speaker 2: I want you just for a moment to close your
Speaker 2: eyes and have this bell jar over you, and see
Speaker 2: this purple flame around you in that bell jar. That
Speaker 2: is your tube of light. That is your way to
Speaker 2: protect yourself. That is your way to objectively look out
Speaker 2: of that bell jar. But at the same time protect
Speaker 2: your own energy. Tube of light whole and real tube
Speaker 2: of light now congeal around my soul protection seal, protect
Speaker 2: my body, protect my mind. Let everything that I receive
Speaker 2: be none other than divine. That tube of light, whole
Speaker 2: and real tube of light now congeal around my soul
Speaker 2: protection seal, protect my body, protect my mind. Let everything
Speaker 2: that I receive be none other than divine tube of light,
Speaker 2: whole and real tube of light now congeal around my soul.
Speaker 2: Protection seal, protect my body, protect my mind. Let everything
Speaker 2: that I receive be none other than divine. And so
Speaker 2: it is, and so it is.
Speaker 12: Okay, awesome, Okay, So I think we should try to
Speaker 12: see if we can get the energy from the little girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, here, I'm gonna grab your hands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have to lean over a little bit
Speaker 4: because it's a low table here, so yeah, you'll feel
Speaker 4: the plun chet. Okay, you see it. No, No, I'm kidding. Wait,
Speaker 4: I just have to point out that she's wearing rhinestone
Speaker 4: cat eye glasses over her blind folk. This is like
Speaker 4: one of the best things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Now, have the two of you've done o ouiji board before?
Speaker 4: You guys, and you guys don't know each other, right, Okay, okay,
Speaker 4: So let's see if we can talk to the little girl.
Speaker 4: Can you tell us you can put both hands keep
Speaker 4: them very lately on the plunk hut? And is there
Speaker 4: anybody here you guys can ask questions to. Although you
Speaker 4: might feel funny about it, we'd like to talk to
Speaker 4: the little girl. Yep, it's moving, is there anybody here.
Speaker 4: It's about to go off the edge.
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 4: Let's move this over a little bit more to the center.
Speaker 4: Very light touch. You guys are touching light right. It
Speaker 4: looks like your fingers are barely on it. Okay, So
Speaker 4: is there anybody here? You can spell your name or
Speaker 4: you can point to yes or no on the Ouiji
Speaker 4: board by using the plan chat. I'm not talking to
Speaker 4: you too with your hands on it. I'm talking. I'm
Speaker 4: talking to energetic presences. Can you spell your name?
Speaker 1: It's not moving to yes or now?
Speaker 4: But her her fingers are right in the window of
Speaker 4: the plant chat, so I can't read what it's hovering
Speaker 4: on six.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 4: Yes, but that's not good. Are you wait it's going
Speaker 4: back on six? No, I'm just kidding. I think it's
Speaker 4: just I don't know how old was the girl.
Speaker 1: Oh, wasn't she a teenager?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We think she was a teenager.
Speaker 4: Okay, so there's energy here, but it's not intelligent. Is
Speaker 4: anybody here? Can you come through? This is going to
Speaker 4: be like a really kinky picture in forty years that
Speaker 4: someone can post on whatever their version of social media.
Speaker 4: It's two strangers are mindfolded.
Speaker 1: Sorry, let's ask a couple more questions.
Speaker 4: Does anybody have a question from the audience?
Speaker 1: Should I have eaten that burrito earlier?
Speaker 4: That is not a good question and you're insulting the
Speaker 4: restaurant if it says no.
Speaker 1: Why because I went to adult taco way?
Speaker 4: Oh cheeter? Does anybody? Can anybody think of a question?
Speaker 4: I don't see anybody now, you guys are just wrap.
Speaker 4: The whole crowd silently skipped out of here when we
Speaker 4: were turning the blindfolds on the robbery Louis.
Speaker 1: Lewis, are you here with us? Louis Is, they're jumping
Speaker 1: off this board.
Speaker 4: I know they're going into the spirit realm part of it,
Speaker 4: like those things that would make great tattoos over in
Speaker 4: the corner of the Ouiji word. I'm not even touch it.
Speaker 1: It is moving, so you both feel it moving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're not touching it.
Speaker 4: You're like not even touching it. It's like you're not
Speaker 4: touching it, bitch, come on touch it? What Wait? Who
Speaker 4: said that? Did you say that?
Speaker 1: That wasn't me? That?
Speaker 4: Should I go in harder? If you guys said that,
Speaker 4: I said, do you hear that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Ghosts, I mean presences. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: labels on whatever you are, but I got a number.
Speaker 1: I gotta perform. So okay, I thank.
Speaker 4: You, Okay, we are We are now going to close
Speaker 4: this session.
Speaker 1: How do we close? Don't they have to lift their
Speaker 1: hands at the same time. That's what someone told me.
Speaker 4: I never heard that.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know.
Speaker 4: But you, guys, I want you to keep the blindfolds
Speaker 4: on as you feel your way back to the Seaton.
Speaker 4: No here, okay here, wait here, right here. No, I'm
Speaker 4: just kidding.
Speaker 1: Okay, give it up for both of them. We tried.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, I tried, like, oh you, I tried it.
Speaker 1: I mean it was definitely moving, but it didn't. Give
Speaker 1: it up for them one more time. And also give
Speaker 1: it up for both of my guests. I had tonight
Speaker 1: pleasant game in and Teborah Wilson. Okay, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: this whole night has been a major experiment, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was fun. Did you have a good time?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, thank you guys. Okay, So I want
Speaker 1: to tell you this little thing. When I started doing
Speaker 1: this podcast at the beginning of the year, I was
Speaker 1: thinking of you know, fun names for the show. And
Speaker 1: then the name ghosted came to mind. And lot of
Speaker 1: people might not know this, but it's actually a double
Speaker 1: entendra for dating. When you date someone and then they
Speaker 1: leave you, they've ghosted you. You knew that. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: so you know dating's really tough here in this city,
Speaker 1: am I right? So after I had a guest so
Speaker 1: named Billy Lee. She came on and she told me
Speaker 1: about a time that she had sex with a ghost,
Speaker 1: and I said, doesn't sound bad. So I decided I
Speaker 1: would see what it would be like not to have
Speaker 1: sex with a ghost, but you know, just kind of
Speaker 1: contact a ghost and maybe we can, you know, go
Speaker 1: on a date or something. So I wrote this song.
Speaker 1: It sounds exactly like the regular theme song of the show,
Speaker 1: but don't sing along because I changed the words hit it.
Speaker 1: I met this guy who called me a queen. At
Speaker 1: first he had me shaken like a tambourine. I thought
Speaker 1: he was spooky, but now he's just kooky. I'm ghosted.
Speaker 8: Turn me up.
Speaker 1: On the night we met, I lit a candle. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get over someone named Randalls. I dusted off
Speaker 1: my friend mister Ouiji board and let me tell you.
Speaker 1: That's when I really scored. I blurted out things like
Speaker 1: show me a sign. I felt a funny feeling up
Speaker 1: and down my spine. The flame blew out.
Speaker 8: That's when I had to shout, I'm ghosted. He told
Speaker 8: me that his name was regin Old Brier. He died
Speaker 8: and in eighteen hundreds factory fire.
Speaker 1: He thinks I'm really hot, and he knows about heat.
Speaker 1: And if he wasn't so cute, I would think he's
Speaker 1: a creep. I see right through this fella, No, literally,
Speaker 1: because he's see through. He spoke about a treasure buried
Speaker 1: under my home. I went downstairs and found an old
Speaker 1: chatty comb. Who are all these people? And why are
Speaker 1: they so? I'm dead? You look, my whole family is
Speaker 1: what he said. There is Uncle Jim and his third
Speaker 1: wife Lucial. Yeah yeah, but where's the treasure. Isn't that
Speaker 1: the deal?
Speaker 8: Suddenly he vanished and I felt a cold priest and
Speaker 8: I got spooked off by his aunt Louise.
Speaker 1: I'm ghosted. His weird ghost family's fatting around my hair.
Speaker 8: I'm fighting up from dead in my living room.
Speaker 1: Bitch, don't you touch my leg? Thank you? So that
Speaker 1: was our first ever live show, and I'm currently working
Speaker 1: on getting some more dates in LA and beyond, so
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll see you at one of those live shows soon. Guys,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm so grateful for you all. I know
Speaker 1: it's not even Thanksgiving time yet, but i want to
Speaker 1: tell you how thankful I am to have you all.
Speaker 10: And if you could one other birthday gift, if you
Speaker 10: could give us five stars if you never have on
Speaker 10: Apple Podcasts, it really helps out the show and it's
Speaker 10: a great place to write something nice in a review,
Speaker 10: or if you have a ghost story, it's a wonderful
Speaker 10: place to give me a ghost story.
Speaker 1: The other place you could do that is in our
Speaker 1: Facebook group which is called Ghosted by Roz Dress Fallees.
Speaker 1: Those are the two places I would love for you
Speaker 1: to give me ghost stories or also my email ghosted
Speaker 1: by Raz at gmail dot com, but not through Instagram
Speaker 1: direct message or Facebook direct message. Please thank you. And
Speaker 1: you know I'm on cameo Rose Dress Fales for all
Speaker 1: your spooky shout out needs and follow me on Instagram
Speaker 1: Rose Dress Falles all those things. I've recorded a couple
Speaker 1: of episodes that are going to be coming out very soon,
Speaker 1: and I have to tell you guys, it just gets
Speaker 1: better and better these stories. I will not post an
Speaker 1: episode that I do not feel is up to your standards,
Speaker 1: and I do feel that I have got some good
Speaker 1: ones in the bank coming up soon. So Halloween's approaching
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to talk to you next week
Speaker 1: on Halloween. So I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 1: haunt me.
Speaker 2: Came Back
Speaker 7: Starts a podcast network.