1
00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400
Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

2
00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

3
00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,399
Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Wednesday edition of

4
00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,200
Speaker 2: the program. We hope you're always being welcome back into

5
00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,920
Speaker 2: the show, whether it's the beginning of the show or

6
00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,560
Speaker 2: the end of the show, we hope you never leave.

7
00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,960
Speaker 2: You can go download the podcast. You can go make

8
00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,560
Speaker 2: sure that download the iHeartRadio app and boom, you'll be

9
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,800
Speaker 2: able to listen to us all day long no matter

10
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,160
Speaker 2: where you are. We got a bunch to get with

11
00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,840
Speaker 2: you discussing so far today. We have right now Christopher

12
00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,080
Speaker 2: Ray testifying on Capitol Hill, FBI Director. We've got some

13
00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,839
Speaker 2: clips that we will play and discuss, and we're going

14
00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,440
Speaker 2: to be joined by Representative Mike Johnson, Republican from Louisiana,

15
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120
Speaker 2: who had some fireworks early on with Mike with Christopher Ray,

16
00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,760
Speaker 2: we will play those for you. Ran Paul Senator from Kentucky,

17
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,240
Speaker 2: schedule to join us at the top of the third hour.

18
00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 2: He said he's got some news to break with us.

19
00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,279
Speaker 2: All of that coming your way. Inflation comes in at

20
00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,120
Speaker 2: three percent. There's lots of celebration. What I would point

21
00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,200
Speaker 2: out is something that I think a lot of people

22
00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,800
Speaker 2: don't discuss all of that massive increase in inflation. Now

23
00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,199
Speaker 2: it's still growing at three percent on.

24
00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,600
Speaker 1: Top of that.

25
00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,240
Speaker 2: So if you're out there and you're like me and

26
00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,440
Speaker 2: every time you go to the movies or every time

27
00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,560
Speaker 2: you go through a fast food drive through, and you're like,

28
00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,759
Speaker 2: seventy five bucks, how is this possible? The numbers aren't

29
00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,640
Speaker 2: coming down. Those numbers are now baked in. What you

30
00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 2: pay for a hamburger has skyrocket, at what you pay

31
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,160
Speaker 2: for French fries, potato chips, treats at the movie theater,

32
00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,120
Speaker 2: all of it not going away. Have you noticed this

33
00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,440
Speaker 2: buck as much in your day to day? Oh?

34
00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's a decrease in the increase that you're

35
00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,000
Speaker 3: already seeing, which is what it's a little bit like

36
00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,959
Speaker 3: when the government starts to tell you're like, oh, like

37
00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,559
Speaker 3: we're gonna even republicans, we're gonna have some big budget cuts,

38
00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,760
Speaker 3: and then like, oh, these austerity measures.

39
00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800
Speaker 1: How are we gonna handle all this austerity?

40
00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,440
Speaker 3: And then you find out we're arguing over a decrease

41
00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080
Speaker 3: in the increase in spending. You know, this is I'm

42
00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,720
Speaker 3: a million dollars in debt. Oh I'm gonna be austere.

43
00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,480
Speaker 3: I'm only gonna add another one hundred thousand instead of

44
00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,040
Speaker 3: two hundred. On top of that, inflation in this regard

45
00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,480
Speaker 3: as somewhat similar, and that inflation.

46
00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,920
Speaker 1: Is still high.

47
00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,639
Speaker 3: It's just decreasing year over year, and it's not going

48
00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,160
Speaker 3: up as fast as people have thought.

49
00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,920
Speaker 2: I've mentioned I think on the show that like every

50
00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,880
Speaker 2: time I go through a fast food drive through now

51
00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,000
Speaker 2: for my boys and inevitably some of their friends, and

52
00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, we're buying Hamburgers and and Ketchup, and I

53
00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,120
Speaker 2: hope we get ketchup, but French Fries, Hamburger's French Fries

54
00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,880
Speaker 2: is just kind of rolling through every time I go

55
00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,880
Speaker 2: through a drive through. It's like seventy five Bucks. Now,

56
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,320
Speaker 2: I took my kids buck and several of their friends

57
00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,839
Speaker 2: to go watch this, you know, the Spider Verse movie,

58
00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,040
Speaker 2: which I thought was pretty good. Spider Man for the parents,

59
00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,400
Speaker 2: grandparents out there they do the Spider Verse movie. I

60
00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,799
Speaker 2: enjoyed it, took the kids. I spent one hundred and

61
00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,480
Speaker 2: forty dollars at the concession stand in the movie theater. Now,

62
00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,840
Speaker 2: I had six kids. I think my wife was with me.

63
00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,720
Speaker 2: You know, there's so six you know seven or eight

64
00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,720
Speaker 2: people that I'm buying for one hundred and forty dollars

65
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,919
Speaker 2: on popcorn and candy, and that movie theaters. I've always

66
00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,959
Speaker 2: been expensive. I know every dad for generations has said,

67
00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't believe what I just had

68
00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,080
Speaker 2: to spend at the movie theater. But the numbers that

69
00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,639
Speaker 2: now come up when you do things that are not

70
00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,280
Speaker 2: supposed to be super expensive.

71
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,880
Speaker 1: Go through the drive through a fast food.

72
00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,959
Speaker 2: Most people do fast food because it's both fast, convenient

73
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 2: and not that expensive. You can't do anything affordably. So yes,

74
00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,320
Speaker 2: inflation is coming down, but the numbers that nine percent inflation,

75
00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,840
Speaker 2: that ten percent inflation in many parts of the country

76
00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,960
Speaker 2: that's baked in forever, they're never going to come back

77
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,640
Speaker 2: off of the numbers that we have now.

78
00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,760
Speaker 3: I mean, if you make omelets like I do. You

79
00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160
Speaker 3: make a three egg omelet these days, and you feel

80
00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,320
Speaker 3: like you should be making glib remarks about the peasants

81
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,560
Speaker 3: because they can't afford the three eggs because eggs are

82
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,680
Speaker 3: crazy expensive a lot of things now, I know there's

83
00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,360
Speaker 3: bigger reasons for that, but overall, grocery store prices have

84
00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560
Speaker 3: gone have gone up. But one of the problems with

85
00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,040
Speaker 3: uh oh, and I have a few. Do you have

86
00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,360
Speaker 3: any friends who raise chickens?

87
00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 1: You know? And I don't have any.

88
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,280
Speaker 2: I got people who raise kids, and if you raise

89
00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,000
Speaker 2: kids and chickens, that seems like a bridge too.

90
00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,040
Speaker 1: But I do know a lot of people are doing it.

91
00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,240
Speaker 3: Congresswoman Luna up in Tampa told me she gave me

92
00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,680
Speaker 3: a whole rundown on how much fun it is to

93
00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,880
Speaker 3: raise chickens and how much better their eggs taste. And

94
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,520
Speaker 3: these days it feels like it's pretty economical too, because

95
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,120
Speaker 3: of the price that you're seeing in the grocery.

96
00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,760
Speaker 2: You know what I did buck that, I was like,

97
00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I should confess on the radio over

98
00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,919
Speaker 2: the weekend, I had an avocado toast on Back to

99
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,560
Speaker 2: Back Days? Did you have it with Gavin Newsom? Because

100
00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,680
Speaker 2: that's what he has play? Is that what he has

101
00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,359
Speaker 2: for bread probably is? And you know what, I have

102
00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,720
Speaker 2: to make a confession. It's really good.

103
00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

104
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,080
Speaker 2: I know that it's trendy to make fun of the

105
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,320
Speaker 2: millennials and gen Z's over there avocado toast. I had

106
00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,880
Speaker 2: avocado toast. I was at a wedding in Chicago back

107
00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,400
Speaker 2: to back days for breakfast on Saturday and Sunday. I

108
00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,080
Speaker 2: had it on Saturday and I was like, it's pretty

109
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,560
Speaker 2: good because they didn't have anything else that I would order,

110
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'll get this avocado toast. Then

111
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,600
Speaker 2: I had it on Sunday. Back to back days. It's

112
00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,680
Speaker 2: now a trend. They're right on this one. Avocado toast

113
00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,240
Speaker 2: is really good.

114
00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,360
Speaker 3: We got to use some AI to get to create

115
00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,520
Speaker 3: a clay with avoca toast beam or something.

116
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,160
Speaker 2: Do you think people trust me less now on the

117
00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,599
Speaker 2: show because I just confess that I like avocado toast.

118
00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,360
Speaker 3: No, you're a you're a You're a renaissance man, you

119
00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. You're you got many many hats.

120
00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,120
Speaker 3: Clay wears many hats, and and I would I wanted

121
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440
Speaker 3: to bring this just around for a second too. And

122
00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,039
Speaker 3: this is kind of a thing that I wish I

123
00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,200
Speaker 3: didn't have to say. But even though what we just describe,

124
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,880
Speaker 3: which is that prices are still high and inflation over

125
00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,279
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, inflation overall is still high. Look

126
00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,559
Speaker 3: at where mortgages are right now. There's stuff to point

127
00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,919
Speaker 3: to that's problematic for the economy. The high prices for

128
00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people, they become somewhat used to it. Yeah,

129
00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,919
Speaker 3: and Joe Biden, I know, Bidenomics, everyone's talking about it.

130
00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,800
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is not in the you know, brutal recession.

131
00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,520
Speaker 3: I mean, people have been thinking that this was going

132
00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040
Speaker 3: to happen. Maybe it still will, but this is an

133
00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,240
Speaker 3: economy that they will be able to spin if it

134
00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,440
Speaker 3: stays like it is now, if perception stays where it is,

135
00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,440
Speaker 3: which is a problem for Republicans in twenty twenty four.

136
00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,919
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's a good economy. It's not, but

137
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,400
Speaker 3: it's not so awful that it will override their ability

138
00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,159
Speaker 3: to try to convince people that, you know, the job's

139
00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,240
Speaker 3: not done and build back better, and all the propaganda

140
00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560
Speaker 3: fire hose is going to be enough that they're able

141
00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,359
Speaker 3: to convince us otherwise.

142
00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,920
Speaker 1: Buck, I want to play.

143
00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,160
Speaker 2: You're talking about Biden, and I think this is important.

144
00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,600
Speaker 1: Last night, and I.

145
00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,800
Speaker 2: Know he's in Europe so it's a little bit different

146
00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,440
Speaker 2: in terms of the time zones. But he didn't go

147
00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,159
Speaker 2: to the dinner of all the UN the NATO leaders.

148
00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,720
Speaker 2: I think that they had a big dinner and they

149
00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480
Speaker 2: said that he was tired and so he couldn't go.

150
00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,960
Speaker 2: If you have watched him walk around, just walk around

151
00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,159
Speaker 2: with Prince Charles and with the Prime Minister of England

152
00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 2: and many of the other global leaders. I think it's

153
00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,599
Speaker 2: becoming increasingly impossible even for people on the left wing

154
00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,719
Speaker 2: to argue that Joe Biden is okay, because it's to

155
00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,839
Speaker 2: the point now Buck where every step that he takes

156
00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,120
Speaker 2: I think he might fall.

157
00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,720
Speaker 1: There are I'll give you an example.

158
00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,760
Speaker 2: This past weekend, I was with my I was with

159
00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920
Speaker 2: my father in law and my stepmother in law at

160
00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,120
Speaker 2: a wedding. My father in law is approaching eighty and

161
00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,160
Speaker 2: my stepmother in law is approaching eighty. There was a

162
00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,800
Speaker 2: wedding that went to one am. They were on the

163
00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,320
Speaker 2: dance floor to one am. There is a big difference

164
00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,360
Speaker 2: between how people at the age of eighty are able

165
00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,840
Speaker 2: to carry themselves. Joe Biden is not a healthy eighty.

166
00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,280
Speaker 2: He's not a vibrant eighty. He's not a in control.

167
00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 2: I watched Indiana Jones, Buck, They just filmed the Harrison

168
00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 2: Ford fifth Indiana Jones movie. Harrison Ford's a pretty vibrant eighty.

169
00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,120
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is for eighty year olds in the bottom

170
00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,560
Speaker 2: I would say ten or twenty percent almost of physically

171
00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,640
Speaker 2: when I'm talking about the mental capacity of the physicality right,

172
00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,280
Speaker 2: like he could barely get up and downstairs.

173
00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,760
Speaker 3: And Mika over at morning, Joe is very upset about

174
00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,960
Speaker 3: the inability to cover this up by his staff. If

175
00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,840
Speaker 3: Joe stumbles, it's the staff's fault. Mika, by the way,

176
00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,760
Speaker 3: knows how to order around staff. Let me tell you

177
00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,560
Speaker 3: something that she's good at, is, you know, telling the

178
00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,120
Speaker 3: servants where to go and what to do. Here, she

179
00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,440
Speaker 3: is getting a little bit upset at the situation of

180
00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,880
Speaker 3: Joe Biden just being as old and feeble as he is,

181
00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,880
Speaker 3: got to cover it up. She wants him to cover

182
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,720
Speaker 3: it up, better play it.

183
00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,160
Speaker 5: I think his staff needs to own his age. I'm

184
00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,120
Speaker 5: just gonna be honest. I don't think they do a

185
00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920
Speaker 5: good job helping out the president. And I'm not talking

186
00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,280
Speaker 5: about it like I'm just saying, if you are managing

187
00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,600
Speaker 5: a president's schedule, and you are managing a president getting

188
00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,080
Speaker 5: on stage and getting off stage and doing getting on

189
00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,480
Speaker 5: planes and getting off plane, and yes he's eighty, you

190
00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,480
Speaker 5: need to be there for him, and you need to

191
00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,480
Speaker 5: make a pathway, and you sure as hell better make

192
00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400
Speaker 5: sure he doesn't fall on a sandbag. And I blame

193
00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,280
Speaker 5: the staff for that. I mean, these are the things

194
00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,120
Speaker 5: that are going to hurt him. These are things that

195
00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,440
Speaker 5: are going to be played on a loop. Okay, so

196
00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,680
Speaker 5: do a better job, because you can't have these video

197
00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,079
Speaker 5: images of the president tripping or the president like going

198
00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,520
Speaker 5: the wrong way. It's not going to work in this

199
00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,480
Speaker 5: presidency because his age is going to be a factor.

200
00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,560
Speaker 3: Can I tell you what's going on here, Clay. In

201
00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,400
Speaker 3: my mind, Mika is upset that when she's out with

202
00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:31,360
Speaker 3: the other trust Fund step moms, they're upset that they

203
00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,920
Speaker 3: have to pretend like Joe Biden is not old and

204
00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,800
Speaker 3: feeble because everyone's seeing it. You know, it's becoming embarrassing

205
00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,960
Speaker 3: among Democrats that they have to look at each other

206
00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,040
Speaker 3: and act like this isn't the glaring problem that it

207
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,800
Speaker 3: actually is. But that doesn't mean they won't vote for

208
00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,600
Speaker 3: mer and it doesn't mean that they care enough to

209
00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,520
Speaker 3: do anything about it. They just want it to be

210
00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,120
Speaker 3: covered up.

211
00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,040
Speaker 1: Better, think about where.

212
00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,640
Speaker 2: We are, Buck, We're now to the point where MSNBC,

213
00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,840
Speaker 2: which is de fault left wing Democrat propaganda, is now

214
00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:09,240
Speaker 2: blaming staffers for Joe Biden tripping and falling on stage.

215
00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,920
Speaker 2: For the fact that there were sandbags on the stage,

216
00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,439
Speaker 2: which I believe were designed Buck to keep the lectern

217
00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,320
Speaker 2: from blowing over in the wind. It's not Joe Biden's

218
00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520
Speaker 2: fault for tripping. Remember we played that clip of all

219
00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,800
Speaker 2: the MSNBC people coming on saying, I fall all the time.

220
00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,079
Speaker 1: This is not a big deal. People fall all the time.

221
00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,040
Speaker 1: I just fell.

222
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,080
Speaker 2: And you heard it, and you thought to yourself, this

223
00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,080
Speaker 2: is like Kim Jong un level propaganda.

224
00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,600
Speaker 1: The man is not well.

225
00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,520
Speaker 2: Okay, he is neither physically nor mentally well. I think

226
00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,760
Speaker 2: you could have a legitimate debate which is worse Joe

227
00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,040
Speaker 2: Biden's physical state, which is bad because he you know,

228
00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,480
Speaker 2: he even knows it's bad, Buck, because he does that

229
00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,679
Speaker 2: little thing where he pretends like he's running, you know,

230
00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,040
Speaker 2: when he is about to fall over.

231
00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:58,360
Speaker 1: Buck.

232
00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,240
Speaker 2: I know they were trying to make him see seem

233
00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,800
Speaker 2: like he was so vibrant and with it. Did you

234
00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,760
Speaker 2: see him dragging around the lounge chair or on the

235
00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,120
Speaker 2: beach over the weekend? They were like, look at Joe

236
00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,199
Speaker 2: Biden with his shirt off, like, and he was dragging

237
00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,720
Speaker 2: around like a chair to lay out on. And I

238
00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,480
Speaker 2: thought to myself, oh my god, he might die. While

239
00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,480
Speaker 2: he's doing this, I don't know, what do you think?

240
00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,560
Speaker 2: Is he physically or mentally worse off? The answer is both,

241
00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,440
Speaker 2: but which one is worse? That's how bad things are

242
00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,720
Speaker 2: that now it's somebody else's fault when Joe Biden trips

243
00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,800
Speaker 2: and falls on the stage.

244
00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,760
Speaker 3: I just think, though, I think that going back to

245
00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,240
Speaker 3: to Mika and her ladies who lunch, you know, clinking

246
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,360
Speaker 3: the Chardonnaye glasses, I think that as long as they

247
00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,240
Speaker 3: believe the real decisions will be in twenty twenty four

248
00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:56,200
Speaker 3: made by Jeff Jeff Zenes ron Klain, go down the

249
00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,040
Speaker 3: list of the of the senior White House staff, and

250
00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,600
Speaker 3: as long as they're you know, Anita Dunn is she's

251
00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 3: still in the mix. I mean, I don't even know.

252
00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,400
Speaker 3: Isn't it funny you don't really hear that much about

253
00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,160
Speaker 3: biden step down. A lot of people are rotating out.

254
00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,360
Speaker 3: I think in advance scenes took over for Clay right.

255
00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400
Speaker 3: But I'm just but that doesn't mean that that Claian.

256
00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,520
Speaker 2: Is not or that he's not going to come back

257
00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880
Speaker 2: as a part of the campaign of apparatus and.

258
00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,319
Speaker 3: Any senior orbit. I'm just saying those figures. It doesn't

259
00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,040
Speaker 3: even really matter who they are. But as long as

260
00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,640
Speaker 3: because they're really just they're Obama administration holdovers, Biden just

261
00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,559
Speaker 3: puts a Biden name on an Obama apparatus, and Democrats

262
00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,160
Speaker 3: are fine with that. And that's why I don't think

263
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,200
Speaker 3: the age. I don't think this stuff matters to them

264
00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:44,000
Speaker 3: at all. Their only worry is can we convince enough?

265
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,240
Speaker 3: People have been pointing out what a Trump lose by

266
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,720
Speaker 3: in those three states? Officially, what's the official tally. We'll

267
00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,920
Speaker 3: just look at the official talent. You basically changed thirty

268
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,440
Speaker 3: thousand votes thousand, yeah, I mean thousand votes change.

269
00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,320
Speaker 1: Then he wins.

270
00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640
Speaker 3: So they figure if they can run the same playbook

271
00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800
Speaker 3: in the same states and get the same independence to

272
00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,040
Speaker 3: go the same way you get. Biden termed two simple

273
00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,400
Speaker 3: as that.

274
00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,360
Speaker 2: I would just leave this as we go to break here,

275
00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,840
Speaker 2: we can come back and we can talk about it

276
00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,200
Speaker 2: a little bit. If this is the kind of conversation

277
00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360
Speaker 2: Democrats are now having publicly, oh it's their fault. He

278
00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,239
Speaker 2: tripped over the sandbag. What are really well sourced democrats

279
00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,960
Speaker 2: saying privately? And Buck, I would just ask you this,

280
00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,120
Speaker 2: what stories that aren't going public are circulating around the

281
00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,199
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's of the world about the gaffes. You know,

282
00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,400
Speaker 2: when you have Joe Biden coming out and trying to

283
00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,280
Speaker 2: say hi to a dead congress person in public, where's Jackie?

284
00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,800
Speaker 2: That's a big deal. But we see it what is

285
00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,720
Speaker 2: actually happening behind the stage where they whisper and see

286
00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,040
Speaker 2: things where they're like, oh my goodness, this is indefensible.

287
00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,079
Speaker 3: The only way that stuff comes out. You have to

288
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,200
Speaker 3: remember during the Trump administration, we saw this where you

289
00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,160
Speaker 3: could be remember the guy who wrote the now I

290
00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,960
Speaker 3: see him on TV occasionally, the guy nobody had.

291
00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,240
Speaker 1: Ever heard of.

292
00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,600
Speaker 3: It was like, I'm I'm writing this letter because I

293
00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,240
Speaker 3: am keeping my hand on the on the threshold of democracy.

294
00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,920
Speaker 1: The anonymous op ed guy whatever. It's like, because of me,

295
00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,240
Speaker 1: the Trump trade is not going off the trucks.

296
00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,400
Speaker 2: It was like, people were like, we don't even know

297
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,080
Speaker 2: who that guy is.

298
00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,560
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that it was nobody that anybody

299
00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,160
Speaker 1: knew in that White House at the time.

300
00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:24,160
Speaker 3: But anyway, there's always the incentive to leak against the

301
00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,200
Speaker 3: Republican president.

302
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, if you're somebody who feels like.

303
00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,880
Speaker 3: You haven't gotten the job you want in that White

304
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,320
Speaker 3: House or whatever, you go tell then you have a

305
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,240
Speaker 3: piece for the New York Times or the Washington Post,

306
00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,680
Speaker 3: you have a quote that's gonna slamm a Republican president,

307
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,000
Speaker 3: They're gonna sweet talk to you. They'll probably say, hey,

308
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,880
Speaker 3: you know, introduce you to my publisher. Maybe you should

309
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,840
Speaker 3: write a memoir. There's all that you and I both

310
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,880
Speaker 3: know in this Biden White House. If you go to

311
00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,440
Speaker 3: the Washington Post in during the election cycle with something

312
00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080
Speaker 3: that would really hurt Biden, they'd be like, I don't

313
00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,160
Speaker 3: want to have this conversation. They don't want to talk

314
00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,040
Speaker 3: to you about that. They're not looking. Unless you're right,

315
00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 3: and the news machine is working in the in the back,

316
00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,400
Speaker 3: then we'll talk about this. The news machinery is getting loud.

317
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,120
Speaker 3: Everyone's joining team newsome among the Democrat conspiracy side. I

318
00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,960
Speaker 3: never hear I only hear people on the right saying this.

319
00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,880
Speaker 3: I do not hear any Democrats saying it, which I

320
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,360
Speaker 3: do think is noteworthy. We'll come back to it. But

321
00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,400
Speaker 3: you look, you see what goes on if you don't

322
00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,560
Speaker 3: have energy, focus and drive. Yeah you can trip over sandbags. Yeah,

323
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,400
Speaker 3: you can fall down. You can have a rough day

324
00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,640
Speaker 3: metaphorically or literally be tripping all over the place. There's

325
00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,320
Speaker 3: no need for that. If you want a little bit

326
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,520
Speaker 3: of a boost in your day to day one a

327
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,040
Speaker 3: little more energy, try Chalk. This company is making world

328
00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,640
Speaker 3: class everyday supplements to provide you and your body with

329
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,640
Speaker 3: the healthy ingredients that you need to feel healthy and strong.

330
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,640
Speaker 3: Chalk's Male Vitality Stack and Female Vitality Stack lead the way.

331
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,960
Speaker 3: These are specially formulated combinations of all natural ingredients researched

332
00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,840
Speaker 3: and proven to be helpful for guys. The leading ingredient

333
00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,480
Speaker 3: in this has been proven in research studies to replenish

334
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,360
Speaker 3: diminished amounts of testosterone. For women, Chalk's product provides a

335
00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,000
Speaker 3: healthy hormone balance with a lot of research behind it.

336
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 3: You'll find these both online at chalk dot com. That's

337
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,280
Speaker 3: with a Q as in cchoq dot com. Save yourself

338
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,200
Speaker 3: thirty five percent off for the life of your subscription.

339
00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,440
Speaker 3: When you use my name Buck in that purchase process,

340
00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,160
Speaker 3: you get a great benefit here. Use promo code Buck.

341
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,320
Speaker 3: Go to chalkcchoq dot com You'll get thirty five percent off.

342
00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,640
Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Chuck up a win for

343
00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,880
Speaker 2: Team Reality.

344
00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,600
Speaker 1: Welcome man our number three. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

345
00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,840
Speaker 1: Appreciate all of.

346
00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,200
Speaker 2: You hang out with us as we polish off third

347
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,880
Speaker 2: hour of the program. Encourage you guys to go download

348
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,000
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to this show any

349
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,920
Speaker 2: many other shows all over the country, all around the world.

350
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,400
Speaker 2: Encourage you to go download the Clay Travis Buck Sexton Podcast.

351
00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,080
Speaker 1: As many of you are in the.

352
00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,920
Speaker 2: Tune of fifteen million plus of you every single month

353
00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,520
Speaker 2: listening to this on podcast. And we're joining now by

354
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,879
Speaker 2: Senator Ran Paul, who I think understands the first emment

355
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,320
Speaker 2: interplay with the government censorship and its impact better than

356
00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,520
Speaker 2: almost anyone out there in the in Congress today. And

357
00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,679
Speaker 2: I'll begin this by having a discussion. I bet you

358
00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,119
Speaker 2: remember this, Senator, Thanks for taking the time with us.

359
00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,400
Speaker 2: You did an interview with us about COVID back.

360
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,280
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one.

361
00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,840
Speaker 2: I believe a couple of years ago everything you said

362
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,120
Speaker 2: ended up being true. You are, of course a doctor

363
00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,360
Speaker 2: as well. YouTube refuse to allow that interview to be shared.

364
00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,920
Speaker 2: In fact, it was in twenty twenty two as part

365
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,399
Speaker 2: of the preliminary for you when you were running for.

366
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Re election in Kentucky.

367
00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,199
Speaker 2: They took down that interview and refused to allow it

368
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,520
Speaker 2: to be shared because it was considered.

369
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,680
Speaker 1: To be misinformation.

370
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,280
Speaker 2: That to me is a perfect example of one of

371
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,200
Speaker 2: the things that you're trying to address with your new legislation.

372
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,880
Speaker 2: But you can probably take a victory lap now because

373
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 2: almost everything you said about COVID has ended up being true.

374
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 2: And that's why the First Amendment is so important, so

375
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 2: that we can have a true marketplace of ideas and

376
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,159
Speaker 2: end up with the right outcome, meaning the one that

377
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,240
Speaker 2: is more likely to be true, more widely distributed.

378
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 6: So it would be bad enough if this were YouTube alone,

379
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,120
Speaker 6: just a private company on their own decided that they

380
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480
Speaker 6: were left wing and going to censor any kind of

381
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,440
Speaker 6: conservative's opinion. But it turns out it's worse than that.

382
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,800
Speaker 6: It's the government, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security,

383
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 6: Biden Apparachnicks, Bien Associates meeting with big tech on a

384
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,200
Speaker 6: davy basis and getting together sometimes fifty eighty FBI agents

385
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,359
Speaker 6: and government agents all in one room with big tech

386
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 6: and telling them take this down, or else take this down,

387
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,920
Speaker 6: or will sue you for anti trust? Take this down,

388
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,880
Speaker 6: or we'll take away your liability protections. Take this down

389
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,919
Speaker 6: or we'll take this to the very highest point of

390
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,639
Speaker 6: the White House, meaning the President. They have all of

391
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 6: these threats recorded, and then we really are talking about

392
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 6: a First Amendment case because now we're talking about the

393
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,720
Speaker 6: government threatening social media and telling them to take down material.

394
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,639
Speaker 6: With the Twitter files, we learned that not only did

395
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 6: the FBI threaten Twitter to take things down, they would

396
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,679
Speaker 6: tell Twitter have said, well, we'll take it down, but

397
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,360
Speaker 6: it's a lot of work. So the FBI said, we'll

398
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,919
Speaker 6: pay you. So now we have the government paying Twitter

399
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 6: to take down speech. This court case that Eric Smith,

400
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 6: the Senator from Missouri, started and just came out of

401
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,439
Speaker 6: a district court recently is just amazing that there's an

402
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 6: injunction now that forbids the FBI from meeting with the

403
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 6: White House to discuss removing politically or constitutionally protected speech. Interestingly,

404
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,199
Speaker 6: that injunction by the judge is almost identical to what

405
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 6: our bill does. We've been working on this for a

406
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 6: year from that angle. The angle is that we don't

407
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 6: think we really do have the power to regulate Twitter

408
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 6: or YouTube, but we have the power to regulate who

409
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 6: the FBI meets with and what the FBI does to

410
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 6: try to limit constitutionally protected speech.

411
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 3: So what will that look like s under Paul in practice?

412
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 3: If the bill that you want forward here becomes law,

413
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: which we got Joe Biden as president, so obviously there's

414
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 3: some hurdles here, but it will be a good thing,

415
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: certainly to address an adopt for twenty twenty four as well.

416
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: What would it actually look like because right now the

417
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 3: FBI is playing this game. We've seen some of the

418
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: testimony on Capitol Hill. They say, well, you know, we'll

419
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: abide by it, but you get the sense that they're

420
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 3: going to try to find ways around it.

421
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 6: You know, ultimately it's going to take a new president,

422
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 6: a new Attorney general, and someone who cares about speech.

423
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 6: But short of that, our bill requires that people will

424
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 6: be fired. There's a punishment for people who do this.

425
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 6: It also gives a private right of action. So the

426
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 6: interview that I did with you that they took down,

427
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 6: we now would have a private right of action to

428
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 6: sue the government for limiting our speech, and we'll be

429
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 6: able to the presumption is ours and the government has

430
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 6: to defend that in court. So that adds some ability

431
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 6: to complain about this. But ultimately, if they adhere to

432
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 6: the law as written, they will have to fire people.

433
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 6: So if you're a mid level FBI agent and you're

434
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 6: going over there and doing this, you have to realize

435
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 6: that the law says that you will be fired. Most

436
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 6: people want a career in the FBI, so they've been

437
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 6: doing this and they're not. You know, they lose their pension,

438
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 6: all kinds of stuff that they're fired. There will be

439
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 6: a big disincentive for them to do this. But the

440
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 6: only way this ultimately happens and the only way it

441
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 6: ever passes, and we've got to get Democrats on board.

442
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 6: I'm talking with some now. Democrats once upon the time

443
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 6: were better defenders of the First Amendment than conservatives, maybe

444
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 6: thirty forty years ago. But in the last decade or

445
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 6: two this is switched and we're having trouble fighting Democrats

446
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 6: who are concerned about the First Amendment. They say, well,

447
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 6: we're for protecting speech unless we disagree with it, which

448
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 6: is a ridiculous notion of the First Amendment.

449
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: I think that's so important, and I'll reiterate for everybody

450
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: out there listening, and I bet you remember this, Senator Paul,

451
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: because you're a consistent application of principles is one of

452
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: the reasons people in Kentucky keep sending you back.

453
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that long ago.

454
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: Bill Maher got fired for saying that the people who

455
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: flew into the nine to eleven in the nine eleven

456
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: terrorist attack were not cowards. And he wasn't saying they

457
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: were good people. He was just saying, by definition, if

458
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: you're willing to die for what you believe in, you're

459
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: not a coward. He got canceled, he lost his show.

460
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: Now Democrats twenty years later are actually in a position

461
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: where they are the censorious culture. So do you foresee

462
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: being able to get any Democrat support? Because I'll be

463
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: honest with you, I love everything you're saying about this Bill.

464
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: I can't imagine Joe Biden's signing it, and sadly, I

465
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: can't even imagine very many Democrats coming out in favor

466
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: of it.

467
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 6: We've now I'm working on one particular senator. I'm not

468
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 6: going to name him today, one Democrat senator, and we're

469
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 6: going to be meeting with him in the next week

470
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 6: or two. I'll have more information. If I can't get him,

471
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 6: I probably can't get anybody. But if I get him,

472
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 6: there's a possibility we can get a few others. There

473
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 6: are a few progressives on the House side, Rocanna comes

474
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 6: to mind, who have indicated that they are concerned about

475
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 6: the government meeting and limiting speech. And really, if you

476
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 6: defend the First Amendment, it's never been about defending the speech.

477
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 6: If you look at some of the most first famous

478
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 6: First Amendment cases, they're usually about despicable people saying despicable things.

479
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 6: First Amendments about protecting people who say things that are

480
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 6: rotten and unacceptable. But it's about defending speech because once

481
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 6: you limit the rotten speech that you don't like, the

482
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 6: next thing is, well, let's limit the people from the

483
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 6: other party. They just don't know what they're talking about.

484
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 6: And what it does is it limits the discovery of truth.

485
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 6: Truth is discovered through disputation in court cases, but also

486
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 6: in science. People don't realize they think that there's like

487
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 6: scientific consensus and facts. No science is being disputed every

488
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 6: day at meetings. If you present a paper in a meeting,

489
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 6: they say, well, your age group was skewed, or your

490
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 6: control group was inadequate where you didn't have enough subjects,

491
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 6: or your statistical analysis isn't true. These debates happen every

492
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 6: day and every paper is disputed. Even Einstein said that

493
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 6: he was only one experiment away from being disproven. All

494
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 6: the time he had proved things from his point of view.

495
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 6: But it's always about the next person. I mean, Einstein

496
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 6: basically changed the whole world of physics beyond Newtonian physics,

497
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 6: and that was a huge deal. But it took a

498
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 6: long time for people to accept that. And it's the

499
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 6: way it always is. Science moves forward through disputation, and

500
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 6: people who say there's a scientific consensus don't know anything

501
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 6: about science. But there's real danger to that. So we

502
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 6: live in the world now where most of the major

503
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 6: networks won't have me on unless I will bend down

504
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 6: and kiss the ring and say that man is causing

505
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 6: climate change. If I won't do that, or if I

506
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 6: want to dispute that, I'm not an acceptable person, and

507
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 6: ideally they would take that down. That was the predicate.

508
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: That was the beginning, was the global change consensus, which

509
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 6: became a media consensus, which became a stifling of other opinions.

510
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 6: Then it became the COVID consensus. And so this is

511
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 6: a real danger of allowing anybody to believe that there's

512
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 6: a consensus of truth. But it's going to be arbitrated

513
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 6: and dispensed by government, and that's a real problem for

514
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 6: a free society.

515
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: Speaking of a Senator of Kentucky, Senator, I'm sure you've

516
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: seen a lot of the back and forth last couple

517
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: of days over the requests to have Ukraine join NATO.

518
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: The possibility of Ukraine joining NATO. There's some dispute as

519
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: to well, first of all, whether it will happen, but

520
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 3: also the timing of it. For a lot of us

521
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: who have been skeptical of some of the official narrative

522
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: of US backing of the Zelensky government the way that

523
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: it has to the extent that it has without preconditions

524
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: and without setting parameters, this seems pretty unsettling because the

525
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: whole problem with Russia is really a function of whether

526
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 3: or not Ukraine would ever be in NATO. What do

527
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: you make of all this.

528
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 6: Spring country, a country that's already at war with Russia

529
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 6: into NATO would be a vote to expand the war

530
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 6: directly to us. Most people believe and look at the

531
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 6: NATO Charter and say we're going to defend any of

532
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 6: these countries, and they believe that the power of the

533
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 6: charter is in that application that it was not going

534
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 6: to be applied, the Charter would lose its power. So

535
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 6: if you vote to put Ukraine in NATO, you're voting

536
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 6: to send our young men and women to Ukraine. There's

537
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 6: no ifs, hands or butts about it. This is also

538
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 6: why the sort of idea of pushing and pushing and

539
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 6: pushing to put them in in some ways has led

540
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 6: put In to be occupying parts of Georgia and Ukraine,

541
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 6: because he now knows that it's a deterrent to putting

542
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 6: them in NATO if he occupies them, and the war

543
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 6: has already existed. So it actually probably in some ways

544
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 6: speeds up the timetable. Doesn't justify nothing justifies what he's done,

545
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 6: but it speeds up that timetable because you know, other

546
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 6: than some sort of radical voices like Lindsey Graham agitating

547
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 6: to this, most of the more reasonable voices up here,

548
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 6: even though they love expanding NATO, aren't willing to do

549
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 6: it in the middle of a war.

550
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: We just had an interesting conversation we're playing some of

551
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: the clips from RFK Junior last night, I believe with

552
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: Jesse Waters on Fox News. I'm curious what you think

553
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: about what he's saying about COVID, big pharma in general,

554
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: based on your background as a doctor, and are you

555
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: surprised that he's the only Democrat by and large who's

556
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: willing to raise many of these issues associated with COVID,

557
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: the First Amendment, civil civil liberty issues in general. What

558
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: does it say that he seems to be having success

559
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: somewhat even on the Democrat party side with those opinions.

560
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 6: You know, I'm intrigued by Robert F. Kennedy. I've not

561
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 6: met him in person, I have communicated a little bit

562
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 6: with him. I've been intrigued by his dogged pursuit of

563
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 6: sort of corporatism, the idea that big corporations, particularly pharmaceutical companies,

564
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 6: are in bed with the FDA and have corrupted the

565
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 6: process such that it is to benefit the company's profit

566
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 6: and not necessarily the people. And these agencies were set

567
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 6: up for like drug safety, in this and that, but

568
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 6: they've become agencies where all the fees come from user

569
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 6: fees from big companies. You'll say, that's great, the companies

570
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 6: are paying for government. It's self sufficient. Well, it is

571
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 6: unless they control all the levers and then have become

572
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 6: sort of self reinforcing. It's really a problem when you

573
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 6: have people in government mandating that we use a certain

574
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 6: pharmaceutical project product, and then those same people are also

575
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 6: on the boards. So we have former FDA head is

576
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 6: now on the board member of pfiser. He also has

577
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 6: his own agents calling Twitter to sopride a suppress, suppress

578
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 6: anything that is negative about taking Prowser's vaccine. And I look,

579
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 6: more debate the better, more speech the better. But I

580
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 6: don't like to see the people that sort of have

581
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 6: their tentacles into government using government to mandate something that

582
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 6: increases their profit. You know, if you want to be

583
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: just a terrible authoritarian and mandate vaccines and medicines on everybody,

584
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: that's fine, but it's even worse that now you're authoritarian,

585
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 6: but you're doing it for your own profit. And so this,

586
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 6: you know, he's been pretty good at looking at stuff

587
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 6: like this. I think he's made some pretty reasonable comments

588
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 6: on Ukraine. In the end, I think it'll probably be

589
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 6: some separation between myself believing and a lot less government,

590
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 6: but if there is some overlap, and I think he's

591
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: useful and I'm always willing to hear people from the

592
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 6: other side who I have some agreement.

593
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: With Senator Ram Paul. Appreciate you being here with us

594
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: next so much service. Thanks guys support US funded resources.

595
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: Phoenix Capitol Group invites you to invest in the heart

596
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: of America with our domestic energy corporate bonds. At Phoenix

597
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: Capital you can connect your private investor principle with direct

598
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: investments in domestic energy assets. Your venture in these US

599
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: packed equities can gain up to nine to twelve percent

600
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: annual interest paid monthly. It's a vote of confidence in

601
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: the American dream and the unwavering spirit that built our nation.

602
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: To find out more, download the Phoenix Group's free investment

603
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: packet today at PHX on air dot com. Investment in

604
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: bonds have a certain amount of risk associated with it,

605
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: and you should only invest if you can afford to

606
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: bear the risk of loss. Before making investment decisions, you

607
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: should carefully consider and review all risks involved. Learn how

608
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: you can diversify your investments and are nine to twelve

609
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: percent apy. Download the Phoenix Group's free investment packet today

610
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: at PHX on air dot com.

611
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: From the front lines of Truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

612
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: No, we haven't talked in a few days. I think

613
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: about RFK Junior, who is still out there getting a

614
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: lot of attention and people are looking into what is

615
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: it exactly that the long term play is here. RFK

616
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: Junior occasionally says things Clay where I go, oh man,

617
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: I really like that a lot. So on COVID. Really,

618
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: that's where he that's where he gets me when he

619
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: talks about the COVID stuff. We've got to get him

620
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: back on and we've we've been in touch with his team.

621
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: He is running around, he's been a little busy. We'll

622
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: get him on at some point, hopefully soon to answer

623
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: other policy questions. I mean, basically, he's running as a Democrat,

624
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: so I assume he he disagrees with Republicans on most

625
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: things that aren't COVID related, although he did sound pretty

626
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: reasonable recently on the border. But here he is again

627
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: talking about COVID and bad policy, and he's even said

628
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: that he would be willing if you were president, to

629
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: prosecute Fauci if malfeasance was further malfeasance was uncovered.

630
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Play nine.

631
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 7: Do I think that he committed crimes. I think he

632
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 7: caused a lot of injury. I think that he particularly

633
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 7: by withholding early treatment from Americans. You know, we were

634
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 7: racked up the highest descount in the world. We only

635
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 7: have four point of the club's population, but we had

636
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 7: sixteen percent of the COVID deaths in this country. And

637
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 7: that is that's what's from bad policy. So there are

638
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 7: many many things that we did wrong in this country,

639
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 7: and and some of those were I would say knowingly

640
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 7: that some of the things that were done by public

641
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 7: health officials of that time, that they knew that they

642
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 7: would be.

643
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: Harmful, knowingly harmful. I think that what you could put

644
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: in that category. One thing he leaves out is that

645
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: the US, we know that weight was the primary comorbidity

646
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: after age. That remained true even after all the.

647
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Data, everything's been looked at.

648
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: So the US was in a worse position that way

649
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: than a lot of other countries, though though not all countries.

650
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: There are some Western European countries, for example, that are

651
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: very pretty close to similar average BMI rates. But Clay,

652
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: when you look at the intentionally bad things that were done,

653
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: Lockdown's very high on that list. The masking policy, which

654
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: was always absurd, moronic, and people who believed in it.

655
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Should be embarrassed.

656
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: People who enforced it should be You know should feel

657
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: awful about themselves. And also, I would say the suppression

658
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: of herd immunity as a concept in medicine, which was

659
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: one of the It's not a lie that gets spoken

660
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: about as much, but it is one of the biggest

661
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: lies of all. When they acted like, if you'd already

662
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: had COVID, that shouldn't really make any difference in how

663
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: you go about your day to day life.

664
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: What kind of risk you art of people? That was insane.

665
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 2: Imagine how much different things would be if we had

666
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: had the right leadership at the time and they had

667
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: come out and said, hey, the number one thing you

668
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: can do on an individual basis to combat COVID is

669
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: exercised as much as you can and lose as much

670
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: weight as you can. Because that was the truth, right.

671
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: You can't control your age. It's not like if you're

672
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: seventy eight suddenly you can say, okay, well I'm going

673
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: to be sixty eight instead. But if you weighed two

674
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety pounds, you could say, Okay, I'm going

675
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: to try to get down to two fifty. I'm going

676
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: to exercise instead. We told people to do the exact

677
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: opposite buck. We told them to go to their rooms,

678
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: go to their homes and don't interact at all, sit

679
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: on the couch and watch Netflix. And that to me,

680
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: leaving aside what I think is the biggest part of

681
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: this public policy health failure, which is shutting down schools.

682
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: I'm sure yesterday even the New York Times had a

683
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: front page news story where it said, Hey, that whole

684
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: pandemic learning gap, it's not getting erased, it's actually growing

685
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: more substantial. And this Democrat Party, which claims to care

686
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: about equity, actually created the least equitable outcomes in any

687
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: of our lives by keeping predominantly black and brown students

688
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: out of school the most, further creating gaps between them

689
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: and white and Asian students who were more likely to

690
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: be in school. But buck one thing I wonder every

691
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: time I hear RFK Junior, I would vote for RFK Junior. Right,

692
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: people out there say, oh my god, how I would consider, Like,

693
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: if you gave me met Romney or RFK Junior, I

694
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: would rather vote for RFK Junior than met Romney.

695
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 4: Ah.

696
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay, now that's a tough one. That's oka. I'm just saying,

697
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: I get it.

698
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: But he was the nominee, not very long ago. I

699
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: know and so and so or Paul Ryan. You told me, hey,

700
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: you can get RFK Junior or Paul Ryan. He was

701
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 2: the friggin you know, uh, the Speaker of the House.

702
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: I would vote RFK Junior. So what I'm saying about

703
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: that you would.

704
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Vote for RFK Junior over Paul Ryan.

705
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: I would, man. I mean again, I have to hear.

706
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: I have to hear what RFK Junior thinks because I

707
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: think that Paul Ryan is a Republican. Is he sig

708
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: who's established?

709
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, he has no spine.

710
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: I want spine over because you're gonna make whatever comments

711
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna make out there on the campaign trail. I

712
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: want somebody that actually has a spine stand up for something,

713
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: and I think RFK Junior does.

714
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: So.

715
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: My point on this buck is, I bet there are

716
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there listening to us in

717
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: New Hampshire right now, and I haven't heard anybody discuss this.

718
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: In February. I think RFK Junior is going to win

719
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: New Hampshire for Democrats, partly because independence can go vote

720
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: Everybody forgets. In twenty sixteen, when Trump won New Hampshire,

721
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people were deciding buck between Trump or

722
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders. Especially in New Hampshire, there are a lot

723
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: of people that just wanted a disruptive candidate. I think

724
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, what people want the most is

725
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: a candidate that's gonna be honest with them.

726
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: I think that more than anything else.

727
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: And there are lots of things RFK Junior is saying

728
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: that I disagree with, but the single thing that I

729
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: want the most from a politician in twenty twenty four

730
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: personally is honesty on COVID and a reckoning for everything

731
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: that we've gotten wrong on censorship and the First Amendment

732
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: and everything surrounding COVID.

733
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: RFK Junior is right on that.

734
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: I think Paul Ryan would come out and say, hey,

735
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: I think you guys.

736
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: Need to go get your boosters.

737
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: I think he's a stooge in that way for big

738
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: corporate governance.

739
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: Do you think if you had a choice between Andrew

740
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: Tate or Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan, would.

741
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: You go Andrew Tates. I would vote Andrew Tait over

742
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: both those guys. Go Andrew Taate.

743
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: So here he is Tucker who is doing his show

744
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: on Twitter these days. Tucker on Twitter, he had a

745
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: lengthy sit down with Andrew Taito over two hours. Here

746
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: is what now now, Tate just Evern's up to speed

747
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: on this. We've talked about him before on the show.

748
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: Yes he is controversial. Yes he says things that we

749
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: would not agree with or you know whatever. But he

750
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: also says some things that I think are important for

751
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: people to hear. There's a reason he's the most was

752
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: the most googled man, I think on the planet for

753
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: a few months last year.

754
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: That was at least the story we heard.

755
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: Clay has said many times that his sons and people

756
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: young boys in their teenage years, Robin love Andrew Tait.

757
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: Now he is under house arrest in Romania for human

758
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: alleged human trafficking. When he discusses the charges, they do

759
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: sound very flimsy. The whole thing sounds very strange. He's

760
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: not accused of using force on anybody. He's not accused

761
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: of threatening force against anybody. But anyway, but this is now.

762
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: We haven't actually seen the Romanian prosecution present its case,

763
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: so we'll see. But he talked to Tucker, but this

764
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: is about COVID. Actually, here's what he said about are

765
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: a lesson that we should take from the COVID reality

766
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: play ten.

767
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 8: It was interesting for me because and I want to

768
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 8: be an optimist, but I lost so much faith in

769
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 8: humanity during COVID. I really if you would have told

770
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 8: me how COVID would have gone down, Yes, before COVID,

771
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 8: I'd say, no, way, We're not that bad, you know,

772
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 8: like I thought, the people aren't that dumb. But when

773
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 8: I've experienced COVID, it's actually scary. You see how the

774
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 8: Nazis managed to do what they did. You see how

775
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 8: they managed to put people in concentration camps.

776
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: You see it now.

777
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: I mean, well, the last part obviously is getting to

778
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: an extreme, but just the notion of a disappointment in

779
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: humanity with how there was a general reaction to COVID,

780
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: I felt that very acutely as well. I felt it

781
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: very much about New York City, about my fellow New

782
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: Yorkers at the time, not all of them, obviously, not

783
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: the people who were listening to me on radio. They

784
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: were listening to me because I was speaking the truth

785
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: about how insane New York had gone.

786
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: Here's a good question for you, Buck. If COVID didn't happen,

787
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: would you be speaking to me from Miami right now. Nope, Nope,

788
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: that I mean, it changed so much for so many people.

789
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: I think because there was also a sense of not

790
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: just I don't want to be around for the next

791
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: time they go insane, but there was a sense of

792
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: if I don't do something about this and take my

793
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: tax dollars away from some of these places, am I

794
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: really going to be able to just keep complaining about this?

795
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: Right?

796
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of Californians had felt that way,

797
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: a lot of New Yorkers have felt that way, and

798
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: it's it's something that we're still dealing with, and I

799
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: don't think we've dealt with it very effectively at all.

800
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: I think the fact that there hasn't been more of

801
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: a willingness to have some kind of a you know,

802
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: truth commission. I don't know what you would even really

803
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: call it about everything that happened there, but they made

804
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: a lot of people complicit in it. And I think

805
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: that when RFK Junior, just to bring it full circle,

806
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: when he says he'd be willing to look at crimes

807
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: that were committed against people, that should be the that

808
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: should be the mentality. It should be that we have

809
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: not gone past this. The statute has not run. Let's

810
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: lock some people up, over locking millions of people up

811
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: based on lunacy. I one hundred percent agree with all that, Buck,

812
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: And that's why do you feel like Mitt Romney would

813
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: say that? Do you feel like Paul Ryan would say

814
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: that associated with COVID?

815
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not sitting there, you know.

816
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: I think that there are tons of people listening to

817
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: us right now that agreed with everything you say. And

818
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: also we're going to agree with everything I say right here,

819
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: which is is if you got the biggest issue in

820
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: any of our lives wrong, COVID was the ultimate test

821
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: for government in our lives. Some of you lived through Vietnam.

822
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: I did not, but the legacy of Vietnam lingered for

823
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: a generation. People didn't trust their government. They were lied

824
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: to for Vietnam. This is our generation's Vietnam. And I

825
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: feel like there are tons of people all over the

826
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: country around our age Buck listening, and some older and

827
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: some younger that want there to be a reckoning so

828
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: desperately for the lies that we were told. That party

829
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: is swept off in many ways. There are lots of

830
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: things RFK Junior would say that I would disagree with,

831
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: but Mitt Romney wouldn't say what you just said. Paul

832
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Ryan would not say what you just said. There are

833
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: a lot of Republicans out there that are just like, well,

834
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: we didn't know any better, let's just move on. No,

835
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: when the government fails and worse than when they when

836
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: they lie to all of us and there is zero accountability,

837
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: My number one issue as an American citizen is I

838
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: want those people held accountable. And I think RFK Junior

839
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: would try to do it. I think a lot of

840
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: Republican candidates would. But that's my number one issue. So

841
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: I would be willing if you told me, Hey, Mitt Romney,

842
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: who's like, you know, pharmaceutical companies are really good. Paul Ryan,

843
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: who's going to sit around and say, you know, we

844
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: need to give tax cuts to Johnson and Johnson Adviser

845
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: because of what they did to get this COVID shot ready,

846
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: And RFK Junior is going to be like, f that

847
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: we need to hold these guys accountable. I'm voting for

848
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: the guy who says f that we need to hold

849
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: these guys accountable, regardless of party, if that's the choice.

850
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: Very interesting innovation refunds, my friends, they've helped thousands of

851
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: small businesses with their ERC tax refunds. Are you a

852
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: small business owner who started filing for the ERC tax

853
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: refund and maybe got stuck halfway? Some companies have a

854
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: super complicated process or don't have anyone with experience to

855
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: help you navigate that process. Innovation Refunds here's this all

856
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 3: the time, and they can help you finish today, even

857
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: if you started your filing with another company. Innovation Refunds

858
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: team of independent tax attorneys are experienced in understanding ways

859
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: that different kinds of companies can claim tax deductions as

860
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: a result of the pandemic, Innovation Refunds has been helping

861
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: eligible businesses claim their ERC tax refunds since twenty twenty one,

862
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: and they may be able to help your business too.

863
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: Go to their website Innovation Refunds dot com to see

864
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: if you qualify. There's no upfront charge. They don't get

865
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: paid unless you get paid. Call them at eight four

866
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: to three refunds. That's eight four to three refunds, or

867
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 3: go to Innovation Refunds dot com. That's Innovation refunds dot com.

868
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: You don't know what.

869
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: You don't know right, but you should. On the Sunday

870
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

871
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are

872
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: joined now by Representative Mike Johnson from Louisiana. He would

873
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: on the he was in the committee hearing earlier today

874
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: when Christopher Ray, director of the FBI, was grilled about

875
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: the political nature of the FBI, and we played at

876
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: least one of your soundbites earlier in the show. Represent Johnson's.

877
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: We appreciate the questions that you were asking, What, if anything,

878
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: was your biggest takeaway from Christopher Ray's testimony today on

879
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: Capitol Hill.

880
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: Well, the takeaway is that he's been pretty evasive. It's

881
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: really stunning to me, guys, and I said this in

882
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 4: my questions with him, that we have this explosive one

883
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five page federal court ruling released on

884
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: July fourth, appropriately poetically saying that the FBI is directly

885
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: involved in This is the court's quote, not mine, arguably

886
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 4: the most massive attack against free speech in United States history.

887
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: And the director of the agency that is being accused

888
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 4: of this hasn't even read the opinion. He's had got

889
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: a quick briefing on it, but he really was prepared

890
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: to discuss it. I mean, it's unbelievable to me.

891
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: Do you believe that do you believe that he hasn't

892
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: actually sorry to cut you off, but do you believe

893
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: that he hasn't actually read it or do you think

894
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: he was just trying to avoid having to be questioned

895
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: about any of the findings in that report in that opinion?

896
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: Well, well, I think it's both. You know, I'm sure

897
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: his lawyers briefed him on it. But you know, if

898
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 4: I was the director of the FBI, if you were,

899
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 4: and you had a court accusing you of the most

900
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: egregious violations of the First Amendment in history in the country,

901
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: I agree, it would merit some of my attention, you know.

902
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 4: But but he doesn't seem to care. And I do

903
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: think that he was very uncomfortable answering questions about that

904
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: because there's really no way to defend what they've done.

905
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: Congressman. One part of me though, here's this and see

906
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: some of this testimony and thinks, well, maybe he doesn't

907
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: care because he thinks there won't be any consequences in

908
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: and he's right.

909
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: What do you say to that.

910
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: It's a great question. I have to answer this all

911
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: the time and remind people back home, you know, We

912
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: only have the majority in one House of Congress, and

913
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: we barely have a majority there right even if we did,

914
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: let's say we have the majority in the Senate. In

915
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: the House right now, we don't have the ability under

916
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: the Constitution as members of Congress to purb walk anybody.

917
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: I can't get him fired, I can't. I can't indict him, right,

918
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: I can't put him on trial in a court, But

919
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: what I can do is put him on trial in

920
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: the court of public opinion. That's what we're trying to

921
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 4: do today, to put the facts out for the American people.

922
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: What that ultimately will do is it will lead them

923
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: to make important choices in the elect election cycle about

924
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 4: who's running the White House, because that's who appoints all

925
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: these people. And second, it allows us the Foundation to

926
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: bring real reform. And we're limited in our scope of

927
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: what we can do here with oversight, but we can

928
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: change the law. We can change the way the FBI

929
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: operates and is structured, and we can cut some of

930
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: the funding when necessary. You know, they want a one

931
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: billion dollar new fans and new headquarters. I don't think

932
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: they deserve that if they can't respect the most fundamental

933
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 4: constitutional rights of the people they're supposed to serve and protect.

934
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 4: So that's what's the issue here. We have the power

935
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: of the purse, and we're going to use.

936
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: That representive Johnson one of the things that I I'm

937
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: most fascinated about. And we didn't get to watch this

938
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: lie because we were on the air for a substantial

939
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: portion of the hearings, but we know and I'm just

940
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: curious if you would follow me along here because I

941
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 2: think this goes to the very essence of the FBI's

942
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: political nature. We know that they took possession of the

943
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden laptop in December of twenty nineteen. We know

944
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: that shortly thereafter they determined that laptop was one hundred

945
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: percent authentic and real and began to investigate a variety

946
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: of different crimes associated with it. But yet the next year,

947
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: in October, when The New York Post told us about

948
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: this laptop, they aided and embedded, and had aided and

949
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: embedded for months the idea that this might be Russian

950
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: disinformation and allowed the censorship of this to occur. In fact,

951
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: they encouraged the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story

952
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: to occur.

953
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: To me, that's.

954
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: Criminal in nature was Christopher Ray asked anything about that particularularly?

955
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: And how is it possible that he's still not having

956
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: to answer for that from three to four years ago.

957
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: It's a great question, and I did ask him that

958
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: this morning. In fact, the court, this court opinion out

959
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: of Louisiana that came out July fourth, in multiple places,

960
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: in this one hundred and fifty five page opinion, the

961
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: court goes there because it's.

962
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: So important, it's the essence of all of the.

963
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: Directorrect It's absolutely is You're right, And I asked him.

964
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: I've got the transcript of what I asked him right here.

965
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: I said, quote the Court's found quote this seemingly unrelenting

966
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: pressure by the FBI had the intended result of suppressing

967
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 4: millions of protected free speech posting fire American citizens. That's

968
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: the Court's language, not mine, and the court continues as

969
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: a result. Millions of US citizens did not hear of

970
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: the Hunter Biden laptop story prior to the November third,

971
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: twenty twenty election. We know that that had an effect

972
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: on the outcome of the election. The post election polling

973
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: shows that if the people had known about it, they

974
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: would have voted differently in that election. Guys, we can

975
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: never go back and on line history. But that is

976
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: a profound piece of information here. And the director that

977
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 4: pretended as though he didn't know that that was true

978
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 4: or had not been mentioned in the case. It's just stunning, stunning.

979
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 3: Congress and Johnson, how far do you think this politicized

980
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: rot extends in the FBI? I think that people often

981
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: when they hear about this or that there's discussions of this,

982
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: there's this perception, oh, if we let's say, if we

983
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 3: replaced Ray with somebody who was really good, then everything

984
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: in the FBI would change. I years ago worked in

985
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: the CIA, I would tell people that most folks don't

986
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: even interact in these organizations at all. With the director, Now,

987
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean there isn't policy, but what do you

988
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: think would have to happen? I mean, how much change

989
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: does the FBI need before it can gain the trust

990
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: of the American people.

991
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: What does that look like?

992
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: Well, we've got a long way to go. And one

993
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: of the alarming statistics that brought up to the director

994
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 4: this morning was that there was an NBC News poll

995
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 4: came out last week. Only thirty seven per of registered

996
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: voters now view the FBI positively thirty seven percent. If

997
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: we can't maintain the people's faith in our system of

998
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: justice and the department that is supposed to be administering

999
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 4: all this, we're in serious trouble. I mean, this is

1000
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: a foundational underpinning of maintaining a republic. Those states couldn't

1001
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: be any higher. What we need to do is, you know,

1002
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: we don't have a beef with the thirty eight thousand.

1003
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: You know, employees and line agents at the FBI. We've

1004
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: got a lot of patriots serving in the CIA and

1005
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 4: the FBI.

1006
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 6: We know that.

1007
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: But the leadership at the top, maybe the top two levels,

1008
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: is corrupted. I mean they're allowing this to go on,

1009
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: and under Merrit Garland's leadership of the Department of Justice,

1010
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: they are losing the faith of the people. And we

1011
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 4: have got to restore it, and we need to start

1012
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: that yesterday. And the way we do it is by

1013
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: serious reform that the people can see and understand it.

1014
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: That's what we're trying to evoke from these guys, to

1015
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: make them bring that to us and present it to

1016
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: the people, because we have no time to lose here.

1017
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: Congressman Johnson, I go a lot to motivation because I

1018
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: don't think there's any doubt at all that the head

1019
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: of the FBI, Christopher Ray, is corrupt and that he

1020
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: has aided further in the corruption of the FBI from

1021
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: a top down basis. Why is he corrupt?

1022
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: What is he gaining? In your mind from this?

1023
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: I think there are systematic issues in the agency, and

1024
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: there's probably a lot of reasons for this. I think

1025
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 4: some of it to be very frank enough to get

1026
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: too deep in the weeds. But we've had some testimony

1027
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 4: from field agents who served in the FBI, you know,

1028
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: thirty plus years, and they said they could see a

1029
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 4: development in this direction after nine to eleven, for example,

1030
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 4: Remember the big controversy then was that the agencies and

1031
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 4: intel were not all connected and they couldn't compare notes,

1032
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 4: and therefore we didn't respond as effectively as it could.

1033
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 4: So there was this move to consolidate everything. What happened was,

1034
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: especially under the Obama administration and now on steroids under

1035
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: the Biden administration, is that they consolidated the palace, you know,

1036
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: instead of having the authority down in the field offices

1037
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: out throughout the country where he had multiple levels of

1038
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: review before, they would, you know, go investigate parents in

1039
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 4: school board meetings, or labeled Catholics as domestic terrorists or

1040
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: whatever that would be checked by somebody in one of

1041
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: those offices. Hey, ge whiz, guys, I'm not sure we

1042
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: should do that, right But now they've taken all that

1043
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 4: authority and brought it into the headquarters, the main office,

1044
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: where you just have a handful of people at the

1045
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: very top making the decisions on these things. That's the problem,

1046
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 4: and or it's a big part of the problem. And

1047
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: then also you have Biden putting political people with agendas

1048
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: and these positions that are supposed to be a political right,

1049
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 4: and so they've become basically an arm of the party

1050
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: in power. And that's the problem at its essence. That

1051
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: we've got to get back to the main mission of

1052
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: the FBI and to get away from the politics. And

1053
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: we've got a long way to be able to do

1054
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: it right now.

1055
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: Congress and Johnson, appreciate you being with us, or thanks.

1056
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 4: So much, you got it. Thank you, guys.

1057
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 3: There's a former Wall Street insider who's got a bold

1058
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: prediction about changes coming to our basic currency system here

1059
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: in this country. He gets to WAYI is his name.

1060
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: He's an all of many well thought out financial newsletters

1061
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: who pays attention to our nation's economy and what's affecting it.

1062
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: He believes our federal government could soon announce a mandatory

1063
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: national recall on the US dollar. Those whould be replaced

1064
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 3: with a new digital version that will be radically different

1065
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: from what you have in your bank account right now.

1066
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: Tiktuayi is warning that the official announcement could come as

1067
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: soon as two weeks from now, on July twenty six,

1068
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 3: He's exposing this government plan in a controversial new video

1069
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: and showing you the three steps you need to take

1070
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: to prepare. Go to Dollar Recall dot com to watch

1071
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: this video. Likely some in our government don't want you

1072
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: to see it again. Go to Dollar Recall dot com

1073
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: and see how to prepare before it's too late. Your

1074
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: savings account could depend on it one more time. That

1075
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: is Dollar Recall dot Com paid for by Palm Beach

1076
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: Research Group.

1077
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 4: Heard it on the shelf here.

1078
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: More on the podcast Clay and Buck podcast Deep Dives, more.

1079
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: Contents, more common sense.

1080
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: Find the guys on the iHeart or wherever you get

1081
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: your podcasts.