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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Tuesday,
Speaker 1: you're looking live Toastito's championship clouds outside Ford Centers. The
Speaker 1: Star Frisco at sixty one degrees feels like fifty eight.
Speaker 1: The highest seventy three. The low tonight is fifty one.
Speaker 1: And today, fellas, it's a sad, sad day in the
Speaker 1: podcast world because this will be our last daily show
Speaker 1: until probably after we will go to weekly. We will
Speaker 1: be on Mondays at eleven o'clock. So that's that man.
Speaker 1: Just like the players season ends and they clean out
Speaker 1: their lockers, we're cleaning ours out today. So any dirty
Speaker 1: trash packs, any dirty laundry you got, just air it
Speaker 1: on the show. Any beef you got with somebody, Nate, Jesse,
Speaker 1: Kurt Hell, even Chris, y'all got some beef. Let's let's
Speaker 1: take the let's go call us by the way we
Speaker 1: need to hear how upset the fan base is eight
Speaker 1: eight five two two nine seven. Uh, man, this are
Speaker 1: you're feeling any better? Me? Yeah? About what you know.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of getting over the depression of it all.
Speaker 1: You know. I've had a couple of people tell me
Speaker 1: that this is the worst. This is the worst that
Speaker 1: they've felt since they've worked here. Somebody that works here
Speaker 1: has been here thirteen years. He's like, this one hurt
Speaker 1: the most. This one didn't hurt me that bad. Really.
Speaker 1: I think it hurt me knowing the potential at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year. But the way that they played
Speaker 1: about halfway through the season is exactly what this game was.
Speaker 1: You couldn't clean up the penalties, you knew what the
Speaker 1: game plan was, you couldn't execute it. You got the
Speaker 1: offense going, but by the time you got rolling, it
Speaker 1: was too late. So I mean, I'm I'm not shocked
Speaker 1: if you would if this game would have happened the
Speaker 1: seventh or eighth game of the season, I would be
Speaker 1: really upset, because but the thing is, like the flip
Speaker 1: side of that is, I think this team had the
Speaker 1: talent to go all the way. I just don't know
Speaker 1: why they couldn't figure it out, whether he's coaching, whether
Speaker 1: it's players, whether it's scheme, whether it's I just can't
Speaker 1: figure it out. I think that the part ending part
Speaker 1: is the part that I guess hurt me the most,
Speaker 1: not hurt me the most, but disappointing me the most,
Speaker 1: because I thought this team was as well put together
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, and to have as many players hit,
Speaker 1: free agents, draft picks, veterans, that doesn't happen very often,
Speaker 1: especially around here, you know, across the league. But when
Speaker 1: you get your veterans, your draft picks, and your free
Speaker 1: agents to hit. And the disappointing part to me was
Speaker 1: when it was all said and done, I said to myself,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while before we get back to
Speaker 1: that kind of that group of talent, that kind of
Speaker 1: uniqueness of being able to hit on all cylinders. And
Speaker 1: then you start looking around the landscape of the league.
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important to strike while your iron
Speaker 1: is hot, because they're so many teams that are coming
Speaker 1: like that. You're gonna have the new dogs, like like
Speaker 1: Aaron Town, you know, Tom, those guys are getting older,
Speaker 1: but you know, kind of going into certain Primes. You
Speaker 1: got guys like Patrick Mahomes. But then you got the
Speaker 1: Boroughs of the worlds, the Herberts of the worlds that
Speaker 1: are coming, you know, you know, Russell Wilson, depending upon
Speaker 1: where he lands at next year, he's still going to
Speaker 1: be coming. You know what what is who is treye Lands?
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying, right, Even the
Speaker 1: guys we don't know about guys talent, right, Matt Jones,
Speaker 1: Matt Jones, Josh Allen. Yeah, I mean there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of dudes who are are coming and you know, has
Speaker 1: got some stuff behind them. And I just thought, like
Speaker 1: we we we missed a massive, massive opportunity to do
Speaker 1: something special because you just don't get and again next year,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't know what you're going to have
Speaker 1: as a unit. You know, we don't know. Not wishing
Speaker 1: that on anyone, but you don't know the next injury
Speaker 1: is gonna come, right, you know? And that's that's the
Speaker 1: other crappy part about this is you finished the season
Speaker 1: like I don't remember finishing the season ever. You had
Speaker 1: every single guy on the field except Ken O'Neill, but
Speaker 1: you finished with all of your top dogs healthy and
Speaker 1: playing and ready to go. And on your point, Jesse,
Speaker 1: where you don't the talent. I talked to a couple
Speaker 1: of different people that are that have been here for
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years, and they said, this is the best
Speaker 1: group of guys as far as the locker room that
Speaker 1: they have ever seen. And they were here when you
Speaker 1: were here, Nate, they were here when Mike was here
Speaker 1: in Troy, and they said, as far as a whole unit,
Speaker 1: the way the guys got along, just good people, good
Speaker 1: character guys, and the way that they interacted with each
Speaker 1: other and the way they were like, this was the
Speaker 1: best group they've had. And like you said, we talked
Speaker 1: to Will McClay last night, he was on Cowboys Hour.
Speaker 1: There's twenty one or twenty two free agents on this team,
Speaker 1: so you got to figure at least half of them
Speaker 1: are gone, probably more. And you got what three wide receivers,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, Malik Turner, Noah Brown, Yeah, and Michael Gallant.
Speaker 1: You got four wide receivers. You don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with Zeke. There's talks to the Mary May went out.
Speaker 1: You know, I know he got three left on this deal.
Speaker 1: But do they make a decision and say, hey, this
Speaker 1: upfront money gone. You know what I'm saying, Hey, dude,
Speaker 1: are you worth the twenty million dollars next year? You know? So,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of things. If the new
Speaker 1: officeer coordinator comes in here, does he look at that
Speaker 1: it's a guy he wants in this system. But can
Speaker 1: you secure what office coordinator? So Kellum gone potentially, or
Speaker 1: he may be your head coach. M No, no, Steve,
Speaker 1: you know Steven said yesterday. Don't do that to Stevens.
Speaker 1: Come on, I wait a second, We're not gonna say
Speaker 1: Steven said yesterday that, you know, Mike mc any, I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm a coach or a player, any time there
Speaker 1: is a hot seat kind of moment, it is an
Speaker 1: opportunity where I can be fired. Anytime I get that
Speaker 1: overly glowing review from my bosses. I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: nervous anytime I get that over the top. Oh no,
Speaker 1: he's really really, really really I'm nervous because I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's just kind of keep people at bay while they
Speaker 1: figure things out in the back end. Or does he
Speaker 1: really believe that? But I do want to dive into
Speaker 1: this coaching situation thing. But I don't think Jerry's gonna
Speaker 1: do that like he did it Chan Gailey. I mean,
Speaker 1: he did the same thing to Chan Gailey, right, Chan
Speaker 1: Gailey made the playoffs, one of the division had one
Speaker 1: playoff game, and that he fired him his second year.
Speaker 1: And he's not gonna do that again, we hope. I
Speaker 1: think that's been one of his biggest regrets. I've heard that.
Speaker 1: I've heard that a lot that that was one of
Speaker 1: his biggest regrets, that he didn't hold on the channel
Speaker 1: and getting random Moss, yeah yeah, and not having me
Speaker 1: come back for my fourth season. That wasn't all right.
Speaker 1: Maybe no, But like because we hear a lot and
Speaker 1: a lot of talk has been going on across the league.
Speaker 1: You know, Black Monday happened last week, is continuation this
Speaker 1: week as more coaches begin to get fired and opportunities
Speaker 1: come about. Recently, the Vegas Vegas job, well, the biggest
Speaker 1: GM job comes open. And anytime you bringing a new GM,
Speaker 1: most likely he's gonna want to bring in his own coach.
Speaker 1: So Rich Besaccia yea, he was in tim anyway, so
Speaker 1: he'll I don't know if he'll get a chance, but anyway,
Speaker 1: and so you're hearing all this talk about coaching, coaching, coaching,
Speaker 1: We can almost you can almost set your watch to this.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn will not be here next year, right, Nate,
Speaker 1: You can look at me anywhere you want to look
Speaker 1: at week, right exactly, dan Quinn is not going to
Speaker 1: be here right now, is looking like Denver's hot on
Speaker 1: his trails. They meet tonight, that dinner was flying out tonight, tomorrow, whatever,
Speaker 1: and he has other two interviews today, right, he has
Speaker 1: to today, Yes, four this week? Can we move on?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so, let's let's set our watches to
Speaker 1: dan Quinn will not be here unless unless he's your
Speaker 1: new head coach. Right wow? And and I know right
Speaker 1: now we live in this overall. We live in this
Speaker 1: instant society. Right, it's fired the coach, get the new
Speaker 1: guy here, and everybody has their pick. And this is
Speaker 1: not Jesse defending Mike McCarthy. But let's just take a
Speaker 1: step back and look at this thing here. If we
Speaker 1: fire Mike McCarthy, what direction are we going in? Because
Speaker 1: this is true, this is truly his first season. I
Speaker 1: don't even count last year in the COVID year offseason
Speaker 1: Dak breaks his ankle. You don't that year to me,
Speaker 1: didn't happen as far as coaching wise, Yeah, he couldn't
Speaker 1: establish could anything. A lot of coaches struggle with that
Speaker 1: type of teaching and learning and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So in his first true season, he takes your team
Speaker 1: the twelve or five, they win the division, they make
Speaker 1: it to the playoffs, yet first round exit. And maybe
Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, we really want to keep dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: And the only way we're gonna keep dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: we make him head coach, they're going to be coaching
Speaker 1: issues and problems with whoever you bring in here. Bring
Speaker 1: in here. We've watched all across the league. There are coaches,
Speaker 1: good ones who had clock management issues, and we don't
Speaker 1: know all that goes upstairs as far as meetings and
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. But like you said, he's
Speaker 1: the CEO of all of this. This group has been
Speaker 1: the most cohesive group that I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: You talked about people sending the billingmen in thirty years
Speaker 1: and said the same thing, that's partly due to him.
Speaker 1: That's partly due to the culture he's built in this
Speaker 1: locker room, in this facility. And let's not forget dan
Speaker 1: Quinn while he's the hot name right now, and he
Speaker 1: took this He took this defense from ish to sugar
Speaker 1: and made it look a little better this year. He
Speaker 1: didn't have to do much. When you when you're historically
Speaker 1: bad one year, you ain't gotta do much to bring
Speaker 1: it up the next year. But dan Quinn, because we
Speaker 1: always say, well, why didn't why didn't someone so getting
Speaker 1: the headset and tell Kelly Moore or tell Foster no, no no,
Speaker 1: no no, not to do that. Dan Quinn didn't tell
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon hadn't run a football the Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: they lost. He came up. He came up small in
Speaker 1: that game as well as the head coach. Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: at one point time had a top five quarterback Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: and dan Quinn's time was a top five to seven
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. Outside of getting to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he didn't do pretty pretty a lot. So just kind
Speaker 1: of understand when you're talking about let's hire a new coach,
Speaker 1: let's bring a new guy in here under when you
Speaker 1: upset that apple cart, understand that there's gonna be more
Speaker 1: like dan Quinn will come with his own set of issues.
Speaker 1: While he may rye ry the guys and guys may
Speaker 1: play for him. He'll have his set, he'll have a
Speaker 1: thing we look will go. You know what, Maybe he's
Speaker 1: too defensive minded, maybe he's not focused enough on the offense.
Speaker 1: We want to see more points score. We don't want
Speaker 1: to see muck it up games. We don't want to
Speaker 1: see low scoring games, whatever it may be. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this again to defend Mike McCarthy or to
Speaker 1: crap on dan Quinn. Just know whatever coach we bring
Speaker 1: in here is gonna have their own set of issues.
Speaker 1: So we have to just decide on what are we
Speaker 1: willing to deal with. And the thing that we're willing
Speaker 1: to deal with is the pro side of that going
Speaker 1: to get us any further than what we've been since
Speaker 1: Nate Newton was roaming the sidelines, because up to this
Speaker 1: point it has not. It has not, and we've had
Speaker 1: someone even dan Quinn disciples, we had Christopher Chard, we
Speaker 1: had other people here who cool now comes under him
Speaker 1: because he's not going to be able to have that
Speaker 1: attention to detail that he had now being the head coach.
Speaker 1: Heing a bad attorneys backwards and get down with the
Speaker 1: defensive Lineman and do those technique things that he did
Speaker 1: when you're the head coach, because you got sixty three guys,
Speaker 1: sixty something guys to not worry about instead of just
Speaker 1: the guys in your unit. So we have to just
Speaker 1: make sure when when we're asking and begging for new
Speaker 1: coaches to come in here, the system will change, the
Speaker 1: attitude will change. I'm sure we all sit back and
Speaker 1: you know those coach sitting at meeting and the guy
Speaker 1: who the defensive coordinat as corn, they look at the
Speaker 1: head cords and say, I would do that better, or
Speaker 1: I would do this different. And the position guy look
Speaker 1: at the cords and to say, if I was the coordinator,
Speaker 1: I would do that different. And the assistance of the
Speaker 1: coaches look at those guys that say if I was
Speaker 1: the receiver coach or the dB coach, I would do
Speaker 1: that better, and so on and so forth. So we
Speaker 1: just have to just make sure that when we're looking
Speaker 1: at this whole coaching thing that we're really taking account
Speaker 1: into this. Stop Jesse, stop you're painting the hell of
Speaker 1: a picture. But the bottom line is all the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator got to do, and I'm talking about the head
Speaker 1: coach is be a little bit more involved in the offense.
Speaker 1: But how would be all right? But Nate, you know
Speaker 1: the structure here. You know the structure here. You're saying,
Speaker 1: be a little bit more involved in and how and
Speaker 1: running the ball. We had one issue in this game
Speaker 1: as an offensive alignement. Well then let him let him,
Speaker 1: Let him call the plays. Let him call the plays.
Speaker 1: You think, don't don't don't tell me that I ain't
Speaker 1: you know, don't tell me. I'm the head coach and
Speaker 1: my specialty is calling offense. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now I got a cow down, cow down down, down town.
Speaker 1: Now he thought he was making a hell of a
Speaker 1: decision when he left the guy kill him as the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator to call the only problem we had him
Speaker 1: looking at this game is ten zip with the five
Speaker 1: power we have offensively, and it's only ten zip in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. The game is not out of hand,
Speaker 1: The game is not lost. You your your your offensive
Speaker 1: line is struggling because you have let these guys say,
Speaker 1: you know what, just just stop one more run and
Speaker 1: they will pass the ball. And you just let these dudes,
Speaker 1: just like Pervrahmas, eat up our offensive line. Offensive line
Speaker 1: is not as bad as as this game portrayed it
Speaker 1: to be. It cannot be this bad. It is. You
Speaker 1: did not no, but you didn't get them into help
Speaker 1: because now the traps the kid, the left guard can
Speaker 1: get out and pull the the center can get out
Speaker 1: and pull the guard. Right guard is everything. He can
Speaker 1: do it at all. But you only got one true mawler,
Speaker 1: and that is your right guard. You gotta do something.
Speaker 1: Your tight ends gotta come down on guys, chop blocks,
Speaker 1: quick whams. You gotta do something that you watch that game,
Speaker 1: that offensive line Tiger was bad, Yes I was. Kyla
Speaker 1: Williams was bad. Well let him go, Well, let him
Speaker 1: go forward. But what I'm saying, well, let him go.
Speaker 1: They how you lost the game? How do they know
Speaker 1: all of that? By better a better blocking scheme, by
Speaker 1: your your office accordinator calling let's fire Joe Filbin. You know,
Speaker 1: let's fire him too. Now I'm saying you you can
Speaker 1: do things during the game, make some type of a
Speaker 1: justment so it's not every time I gotta catch a
Speaker 1: guy coming in my chest. Well I gotta got you
Speaker 1: got Eric Armstead, you got Bowser, you got number ninety,
Speaker 1: you goes only played a half By the end of
Speaker 1: the damage was done. They only had one He had
Speaker 1: one second the first and they had four second up.
Speaker 1: It's called setting it up. It's called salt. It's called sighting.
Speaker 1: If you get a tough steak, a grade be a
Speaker 1: grade seas steak, and you put some seasons and salt
Speaker 1: on it, and you keep beating and you keep beating it,
Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna get solt. That's what happened here. We
Speaker 1: just kept we just kept passing, it kept pass until
Speaker 1: eventually it got solt. And all of a sudden, our
Speaker 1: quarterback he dropping back. He's standing back there in the shotgun.
Speaker 1: By time he look up to look at the reds
Speaker 1: and see if his free reds was correct. They're all
Speaker 1: over him. How do you slow that down? You just
Speaker 1: keep passing. You just keep passing, and you just keep
Speaker 1: pass and you just keep No, you don't do it
Speaker 1: like that. Brother, You gotta go into the house and
Speaker 1: look at him. Man, drop your what's between your legs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get out. We number down by seven points.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, man, all right, let's take
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Speaker 1: the phone. We have Tuny in New Jersey. Tony got
Speaker 1: my jersey had on the day represent it Tony? Hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up guys? How are you? Um? I'm good man.
Speaker 1: I was just uh, I don't have any like any
Speaker 1: football language to talk about it. I'm just calling just
Speaker 1: to express how I was feeling about the game, So Nate,
Speaker 1: don't kill me. But nah, I'm just a little disappointed
Speaker 1: with how everything went on Sunday and stuff like that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little better with the errors on the
Speaker 1: last because I was hoping that we would end up
Speaker 1: seeing them in the playoffs. But to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I felt good about us playing the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: That hole, that from the moment we found out up
Speaker 1: until game that point out and it was just, uh,
Speaker 1: I got to echo what you guys have been saying.
Speaker 1: It's just like penalties, man Like, I think that's what
Speaker 1: killed what kill I know that's what kills us the most.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, I was waiting for Dak
Speaker 1: to have I'm a big Dak supporter, and I was
Speaker 1: waiting for Dak to had like that ass catch a
Speaker 1: moment where he turns his half backwards and you know
Speaker 1: it's over from there and stuff like that. But we
Speaker 1: didn't really quite get that. And I mean I felt
Speaker 1: like they did the best that they could. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think one of my main concerns have been like
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go. I get I gave
Speaker 1: him all that. Did you did you did? Sorry? Tony
Speaker 1: Noah is like, yeah, this about high game went. We
Speaker 1: just waited for it to happen, waited for it to happen, wait,
Speaker 1: and then all these sudden the game was over. The
Speaker 1: season was like that waited for it to happen, waiting
Speaker 1: for it to happen. Brother, my bad, this is are
Speaker 1: you They ain't known deal the reason why? And I
Speaker 1: and I told Shannon. This all year long, we on
Speaker 1: cross Stark. I see, this team is a good team.
Speaker 1: They beat every little bad team, they slaughter them. But
Speaker 1: whenever we face the good teams, you know, we automatically
Speaker 1: get this team. We're not gonna be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball. So we're just gonna let Dak win the
Speaker 1: game for us. But you know what, let's exclude Amari
Speaker 1: from this equation and let's make sure we get everybody
Speaker 1: off and going. And this is what it's been all year.
Speaker 1: This is what it's been all year long. Did we
Speaker 1: did we eat the cheese on this some drinking crew?
Speaker 1: I know I did, because I mean you look back.
Speaker 1: I mean they were six and oh against the nfcast,
Speaker 1: which sucks. Against everybody else, they were six and five.
Speaker 1: I mean they were They didn't have any signature wins.
Speaker 1: Like you said. They blew out, you know, fifty points
Speaker 1: on you know, Eagles B team and then get whipped
Speaker 1: by Arizona. I mean maybe we got but maybe they're
Speaker 1: not as good as we thought. They are a good team, Kurt,
Speaker 1: They're just a good team. And and and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to find a way to take advantage of what
Speaker 1: little bit of offensive line we have. You gotta find
Speaker 1: somebody in the third or fourth round. Uh, we gotta
Speaker 1: find it. We're gonta to find a blocking tight end, fellas,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to find. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Do those exist anymore? Yes? They do? Like oura, go
Speaker 1: go to ourwa They breed them, Bro, They come out
Speaker 1: of their moms blocking tight end, blocking tight Yeah, they
Speaker 1: come out of their moms like that. Bro. Don't don't
Speaker 1: this this this high powered offense. The main thing that
Speaker 1: makes it tick. You took its heart and that was
Speaker 1: the offensive line, the main thing that makes it tick.
Speaker 1: There's no passes to nobody if your quarterback. Your quarterback
Speaker 1: dropped back one time and turned the round and he
Speaker 1: was awestruck like a deer sitting in front of an
Speaker 1: eighteen wheeler. Where do I go from here? You can't
Speaker 1: go anywhere because we covered you from every side. But
Speaker 1: I watched Tom Brady on Saturday, the Saturday or Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: He lost his two he lost his center, and he
Speaker 1: lost this right tackle and they still went on and
Speaker 1: blew him out. Lost a key receiver during the season.
Speaker 1: I saw it, man, I'm looking at Tom every but
Speaker 1: Tom like you know what, he's been there, he's done that,
Speaker 1: and this offensive coordinator. They don't sit over there and
Speaker 1: say let's go empty. And if they do say let's
Speaker 1: go empty, I got I got passes that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: cut you like a razor blade. I'm gonna cut you
Speaker 1: a thousand times, and at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be gonna blared out and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take you over the top. We don't have that in
Speaker 1: this offense. Where do we have that's in offense? We're
Speaker 1: gonna cut you a thousand times. Why so, why aren't
Speaker 1: we talking more about firing the offensive coordinating and then
Speaker 1: we are firing the head coach? You never heard, mis sake,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking to you. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: to you. And you know I'm talking to you, but
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you. Yeah, you're talking over me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand I'm talking. So but why is it always
Speaker 1: fired Mike McCarthy. Mike has to go when everything that
Speaker 1: we're talking about here is you gave the keys to
Speaker 1: a Ferrari to a guy who to an inexperienced driver,
Speaker 1: and you're hoping and wishing that he finds his way
Speaker 1: in in the middle of the autobod. Why not fire
Speaker 1: Kelling Moore? Why not? Why not? Why aren't we screaming
Speaker 1: let's look for a new offensive coordinator, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be the case. I only have one problem. I
Speaker 1: only have one problem, and I don't change off my problems.
Speaker 1: Find a way to keep Dan Quinn. That ain't happening, Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The only the only way that happens is
Speaker 1: you'll fire your head coach and you'll point him the
Speaker 1: head coach he got. He got six jobs available for him. Hey,
Speaker 1: none of them got quarterbacks, and but one of them
Speaker 1: got a quarterback coach, Quinn, don't do that. You know
Speaker 1: better than that. They ain't number one of him, and
Speaker 1: that's in Jackson. You know what, I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if he stayed. The only place that I can see
Speaker 1: him going is Denver quarterback. Well, he's got a relationship
Speaker 1: with the GM that why why good way back? Why
Speaker 1: would he stay? I mean he just because I don't
Speaker 1: because I don't know, I've I've I've heard that people
Speaker 1: that have talked to him. He doesn't sound like he
Speaker 1: wants to be a head coach. Right now at this time,
Speaker 1: why do the interviews? He's high, his stock is high.
Speaker 1: You know what, if you here's the way I look
Speaker 1: at it. If you get offered an interview, I think,
Speaker 1: no matter what walk of life you're in, you should
Speaker 1: take the interview just to see what's out there, no
Speaker 1: matter how happy you are, see what what's out there,
Speaker 1: because you never know. The hottest guy out there, his
Speaker 1: stock couldn't be higher than right now. But you know what,
Speaker 1: what if you if you're not ready to do that,
Speaker 1: if you're in a good play, look at Will McClay.
Speaker 1: His stock's not gonna get much higher than what it is.
Speaker 1: But if account got higher, right it may Maybe they
Speaker 1: do that with Dan here. But I'm just saying there's
Speaker 1: certain people that being in the spotlight and having a
Speaker 1: head coaching job or doing certain things that's not that
Speaker 1: important to them at those moments in their life. And
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying here, I'm not saying he's not
Speaker 1: going like you know your good point? Why is he
Speaker 1: going on all these interviews? If you, if you're happy,
Speaker 1: you just say no, I'm good, I'm staying here. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be It wouldn't completely surprise me if he
Speaker 1: does stay and if he goes somewhere, I think he
Speaker 1: goes to Denver. But like you said, Nate, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of good quarterbacks. The forty nine ers man
Speaker 1: for man, the defense versus offense, man for man. Evidently
Speaker 1: they were better than us. No it EVI did leave.
Speaker 1: We judged him. We misjudged him by a whole lot. No, no, no, Nate.
Speaker 1: We didn't misjudge them. We didn't. I didn't misjudge them. Well.
Speaker 1: I think we all said exactly what they needed to
Speaker 1: do on this show. We didn't. We didn't miss judge them.
Speaker 1: We called We called them exactly who they were. Exactly
Speaker 1: who they were was who showed up both Sunday Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel's We talked about him, didn't he huney yards total
Speaker 1: offense and a touchdown? He showed up. We talked about Boston,
Speaker 1: didn't we He showed up. We talked about Eric Armstead, right,
Speaker 1: he showed up. We talked about the running game, right,
Speaker 1: that showed up. We talked about Trent Williams, nothing, Fred Water,
Speaker 1: nothing that we talked about didn't show up. There was
Speaker 1: nothing out of the ordinary. There was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: who is this guy that had a hunting yard receiving
Speaker 1: that we've never heard before? He was off a reality
Speaker 1: TV show, right, we never heard? That wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: Jimmy g didn't do anything outside of what we thought
Speaker 1: we was. I was once again. I was on the
Speaker 1: wrong show instead of a survival, I was on butt
Speaker 1: nakedn't afraid, right, exactly? All right, Let's take another call
Speaker 1: before we go to Brad who we got crazy? We
Speaker 1: got Anthony in Miami? Anthony, what's up? My dudes? Was up? Fellas?
Speaker 1: I feel real good? And Jesse, let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: you know. I love all y'all, y'all many points every week, everybody. Jesse,
Speaker 1: you just made a great point, all you. Keller Moore
Speaker 1: has been my problem and my throwing in my side,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you this, give me, give me
Speaker 1: eight more seconds on my thirty. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why if a genie in a bottle told Keller you
Speaker 1: can win eighty percent of your games, but you must
Speaker 1: run the ball thirty times a cut. You can't throw
Speaker 1: it over thirty. So if you get to your thirty throwing,
Speaker 1: you got to add that to your runs. Right, Kelly
Speaker 1: will not take it. He's already told him you're gonna
Speaker 1: win eighty percent of your games. He would not do it.
Speaker 1: He would not focus on the run. He would not
Speaker 1: do on blocking schemes or anything that allows us to
Speaker 1: run when we know the record shows that we have
Speaker 1: to run the ball to win. And that's the problem.
Speaker 1: He does it late in the game. He throws the ball,
Speaker 1: he doesn't run it. That's a major issue, man, and
Speaker 1: that's my problem. I don't want that dude back us
Speaker 1: than that within me. See you. Thanks for the call, Anthony.
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Speaker 1: can when you wrastle, Russell, No, it's wrastling when you
Speaker 1: from the South. You cannot wrastle unless you touch somebody.
Speaker 1: You cannot rastle unless you put your hands on somebody.
Speaker 1: You cannot wrastle unless you grab somebody. What is the
Speaker 1: problem way to say that? Wrestling? No, that's what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did. They needed to wrastley, but they needed to
Speaker 1: put Yeah, they need to do something beside what is
Speaker 1: the proper word wrestling? Yeah, they did, That's what he did.
Speaker 1: An interesting Twitter question, do you think the Cowboys play
Speaker 1: not to win but to or not to win, but
Speaker 1: to not lose. They don't play to win, they play
Speaker 1: to not lose. Normally, you know, most years, I think
Speaker 1: that This year, I just think I think they just
Speaker 1: couldn't get it going. What is insane with the tools
Speaker 1: you had. It's almost like if it's possible to have
Speaker 1: too much talent, this team I think had too much
Speaker 1: talent because I think you had to like look at
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. You know what they are on
Speaker 1: off George Kittle offensive line and Deebo Samuel and that's it,
Speaker 1: and Mitchell that's it and they're getting the ball. They
Speaker 1: are getting the ball. We have Amari, we have CD
Speaker 1: we have Gallup, we have Cedric, we have Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: we have dak We But that is but you had
Speaker 1: no identity because from game to game it's like who
Speaker 1: do we who? Where do we go? How do we
Speaker 1: get started? And then by the time you figure it out,
Speaker 1: that's a king nyo. But I turned on the field
Speaker 1: and I can go, Oh my god, I can attack
Speaker 1: this anyway I want. Right. It sounds so easy, And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's only the frustrating part is like
Speaker 1: you have all this talent and then you couldn't get
Speaker 1: it going. But then when you got it going, it
Speaker 1: was like, all right, here we go. Let's see. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. Jerry Rice, John Taylor. Uh,
Speaker 1: Roger Craig, Uh, what's the big tighten? Nice tight end
Speaker 1: they had? They had a nice tight end. Not but
Speaker 1: and I'll make it simple for you. I'll make it
Speaker 1: simple for you. White Clark, you had beasts. But you
Speaker 1: know what, one of the greatest head coaches in the
Speaker 1: world still went to his offensive coordina and said Jerry
Speaker 1: Roger Craig in the tight end. Now we get to
Speaker 1: John and we get to this other guy. Great, you
Speaker 1: have to find out who are your horses, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of easy when you say I'm giving him twenty million,
Speaker 1: I'm giving him fifteen, and I'm giving this other guy this. Now,
Speaker 1: the other guy was Blake Jaron who got hurt. So
Speaker 1: that fell on number eighty six. Everybody else, you just
Speaker 1: get in line and we'll find you when we find you.
Speaker 1: You don't do that, man. We've wasted a lot of
Speaker 1: money on Amari, on Zeke and I And that's why
Speaker 1: I am screaming from the top of my lungs. Why
Speaker 1: is nobody talking about telling more of being fired when
Speaker 1: you have an embarrassment of riches? Do you do you
Speaker 1: know what Sean Payton would have done to have this
Speaker 1: kind of roster? Yeah? This, you know what Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: would have done to have this kind of roster? How
Speaker 1: much that is? Dak though I meant this last game,
Speaker 1: that's the question. Cedric's Wilson's targeted ten times. I'm Cede
Speaker 1: Lamb five. I'm calling plays and I'm telling him we're
Speaker 1: going to Amari and I'm calling I'm missing it. Unless
Speaker 1: a Mari is not as good as I think unless
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb ain't what we saw in training camp, even
Speaker 1: though we never saw because every day he dominated. I
Speaker 1: mean every day he took over training camp. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: I'm still no. Every day he took over, he called you,
Speaker 1: We called you during that day he took over training camp.
Speaker 1: Where was he playing game? He was playing outside though
Speaker 1: I'm still standing on that fence. As good as Cdee
Speaker 1: Lamb is, he's playing out of position. He is not
Speaker 1: a slot receiver. So put number one, and ain't that
Speaker 1: all year number? I've been saying it all year long.
Speaker 1: He's not a slot receiver. He's not a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: Yet there is nuances and and and and understanding that
Speaker 1: you have to have in order to be a true,
Speaker 1: truly good slot receiver. He's not that. He's an outside guy.
Speaker 1: He's an explosive guy. He can play some slot, he
Speaker 1: can play some slot, but he's not a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take another call, Chris, who we got?
Speaker 1: We've got been so long he forgot Herwin in Denver, Irwin?
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Home the new home of Dan Quinn, Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 1: That's right, I hate it up here because we got
Speaker 1: the Dan Broncos here. But anyway, but you got we
Speaker 1: I would think Newton one hundred percent. I think this
Speaker 1: foley falls on the shoulders of McCarthy. He does not
Speaker 1: coach these guys. As far as penalties though, how do
Speaker 1: how does our team lead the league and penalties? That's
Speaker 1: a coaching issue. And the other thing I want to say,
Speaker 1: if Zeke was hurt, and he obviously was, because now
Speaker 1: it comes out you have that PCL tear, why wasn't
Speaker 1: pollared in the lineup? One hundred percent that's a coaching decision.
Speaker 1: And as far as Jesse goes, I'm with you. Also,
Speaker 1: I think Kelly More needs to go. He reminds me
Speaker 1: of Chip Kelly. He's just all about the big play.
Speaker 1: We need to get back to physical run play like
Speaker 1: Nate Newton when he was on that damn line. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come down roll one with you, doll. Wow, there's
Speaker 1: your cow bite for the day. You know what. I
Speaker 1: gave up the days, man, But they're welcome. They were
Speaker 1: fun when it was there. Who illegal? Who we got now?
Speaker 1: Chris None Colorado in North Carolina? James, what's up? Hey?
Speaker 1: I was going guys, good um football is one in
Speaker 1: the trenches, offensive line, defensive line. It's one thing to
Speaker 1: be NFC East tough. It's another thing to be playoff
Speaker 1: football toughte what we all music were gonna do. They
Speaker 1: took the ball, shoved it right down our throat threat
Speaker 1: begin of the game, Cowboys get the ball, chance to respond.
Speaker 1: First play, they run through line. Zeke's on the butt
Speaker 1: three yards in the backfield. It didn't stop until the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. He is, he is, what was that? But no,
Speaker 1: he was sorry about that. No, he was. He's right,
Speaker 1: he's right, he's right, he's right. But still, and that's
Speaker 1: why I was when they deferred the football. A part
Speaker 1: of me was like, oh we lost, like a so
Speaker 1: part of it said it's over. It's over. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it. One the top one the toss, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, okay, I said it. I said,
Speaker 1: this game is over. Why in the world would you
Speaker 1: not want to come out and set the tone. Do
Speaker 1: you think that was them trying to say, we think
Speaker 1: our defense can stop your offense, so we're gonna put
Speaker 1: it out there. I think that's plus they were trying.
Speaker 1: You know, dude, the analytics say you should probably yeah,
Speaker 1: but may watch this team all year. Oh man, you
Speaker 1: know you know what, man, if why would I want
Speaker 1: to give the why would I want to give the
Speaker 1: bully an opportunity to bully verse? Yeah, because you want
Speaker 1: to bully them on defense, that was the whole But
Speaker 1: we don't. That's not our style. I style defensively. This
Speaker 1: this is why the lea and get sacks. This right,
Speaker 1: This is why this matchup was so difficult for us,
Speaker 1: because what we want to do defensively is when we
Speaker 1: have we might have some smash mouth people on defense,
Speaker 1: we are not a smash mouth defense. We are a run,
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback, sack, make you make bad decisions,
Speaker 1: opportunistic on the back end. That's why you have so
Speaker 1: many turnovers in that situation. Our best chance of being
Speaker 1: the bully was to get the ball and attack them
Speaker 1: in their weaknesses, which was their secondary and we gave
Speaker 1: the bully the first punch. Their team and not defensive minded.
Speaker 1: Their team is we want to run the ball physically,
Speaker 1: and we feed off that. And we literally just said
Speaker 1: we're gonna drop our hands on the side, We're gonna
Speaker 1: prop our chin up like this, and we're gonna allow
Speaker 1: the bullying to take the first wing. We lost in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. That game was lost in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: We were bullied in the first quarter all the way
Speaker 1: down the football field, and we never recovered. We said,
Speaker 1: we were sitting in the stadium, you know, stand back Church.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did the pregame at the stadium. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: we're sitting up and so we finally get up into
Speaker 1: the stadium. We're watching the game, and I watched what
Speaker 1: Jesse is talking about, and Jesse, we must have us
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing, because I looked over and stand back,
Speaker 1: I said, this game over. Dog. Now I'm trying to
Speaker 1: know when they scored that first. I said, this game over.
Speaker 1: He said, no, the Cowboys just gotta get their feet wet.
Speaker 1: I said, by time they drove them off, this game
Speaker 1: will be And he looked at me. Man, I text
Speaker 1: my wife, I said, Babe, this game over. How would
Speaker 1: you do that? How would you We We knew, we
Speaker 1: knew when they got off the plane. We had to
Speaker 1: have a retaining wall up in front of our goal
Speaker 1: line because we didn't want we wanted them not to
Speaker 1: be able to run that ball. And we gave him
Speaker 1: rap they want it. They probably over there the coach
Speaker 1: follow running down the sideline. They gave us what we
Speaker 1: want a game over. Yeah, we won the toss. The
Speaker 1: actually won it, but we want it. Yeah, why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Don't know, Chris. Let's do one more
Speaker 1: foo we get out of here. Who we got? Oh,
Speaker 1: Mike and Newton Iowa? Hold on full Mike, come on, Hey, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the thing is hold on, Mike, hold on from
Speaker 1: getting to Jess. Go ahead on Mike, Jasey. Why can't
Speaker 1: we get a guy dank Quinn Leeds? Why can't we
Speaker 1: see about getting George Edwards an assistant defense a corner
Speaker 1: and bringing Brack Rob Martin alle that who's often deep
Speaker 1: as a line coach. They'd be making good combination. Another
Speaker 1: thing is Jerry George made an interview at Mike Shanahan
Speaker 1: one time. Mean he let him slip away someone that
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl. Hi, would you let someone
Speaker 1: slip away like that? Says he has amnesia, and Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you for we need to bring the
Speaker 1: Great Wall of out back. Man. That's for you guys.
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen, But man, I tell you,
Speaker 1: we need to get Mike sadhand back here for an
Speaker 1: end of you by the bye. It might be tough.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that one before. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: Shanahan was in the running there. I don't know. All
Speaker 1: I know, my friend is you just can't let somebody.
Speaker 1: You can't give him that opportunity, man, You just cannot
Speaker 1: give him that opportunity to come up and hit us
Speaker 1: in our mouth. Man, m M. Mike was fired up,
Speaker 1: wouldn't he? It's good. We should have got him on
Speaker 1: the first call the ship. Shahan last coaching job twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's coming back. Yeah, he's having fun
Speaker 1: watching his son, Chris. You want to take one more? Now?
Speaker 1: That's all I got. That's all I got. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: who's what's the phone ring? And the tous wife? We
Speaker 1: don't want to go man, we should have got momat
Speaker 1: screens last show, last regular show of the season. We
Speaker 1: need to go screenless. Well, how did your mom do? Alright?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Hello, Carler? Who's this? This is Joe from
Speaker 1: New Jersey. What's up? Joe? You're live on the air,
Speaker 1: no screen no screening process here, You're the last call
Speaker 1: of the season of our regular show. Take it away. Awesome? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, Jesse, I love loving the hat representing
Speaker 1: New Jersey always baby not a wait, stand up, miss,
Speaker 1: big fan of your you're in Miss Janet? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: big big fan of her. Sohi, this is Joe um So.
Speaker 1: I am located ten minutes from the Lovely Giant Stadium
Speaker 1: being a Dallas Cowboys fan. It's so hard to support
Speaker 1: this team this year after year. They think we think
Speaker 1: that they have that we're finally there, and they suck
Speaker 1: us in and they bring us back to reality of suffering.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has got to go. How do you not
Speaker 1: use Collard? I thought Paulard was Injersey Hire game because
Speaker 1: we didn't see him on the field at all. So
Speaker 1: can you guys give me some hope? Can you give
Speaker 1: me some hope for next year? You know what, that's
Speaker 1: a great way to end this show, Kurt. Let's go
Speaker 1: around the horn. Give the fans some hope. Since we
Speaker 1: destroyed their hopes and dreams Monday and yes and today,
Speaker 1: give us one bit of hope that they can hold
Speaker 1: on too to keep I can build around Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: on that defense. That's a good one. Nate, you gotta
Speaker 1: find a way to run the football. If we run
Speaker 1: the football, we'll be back in this position again. Because
Speaker 1: the East, the NFC East, is not gonna catch up
Speaker 1: that quick. But if we can get here, man, and
Speaker 1: get a running game that will not go away and
Speaker 1: be persistent, we will be back here again. Jesse, I
Speaker 1: have no hope. That's that's why they hate you, Jesse,
Speaker 1: That's why they hate you. I'm thinking about that defense. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm done believing that next year of the
Speaker 1: year they just let you down too many days. I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. I'll be one of our listeners.
Speaker 1: Like it's like the old Greek pathology, or the guy
Speaker 1: rolls the rock up to the top of the hill
Speaker 1: and then rolls rolls over it. Every year, it's the same.
Speaker 1: I hope something, having no hope, Chris, do you have
Speaker 1: any hope anything for the fan? Always got hope. I'll
Speaker 1: be bold to coming down there sitting in the same
Speaker 1: seat all offseasons, so listening to all the shows. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that. Hell, I don't think that
Speaker 1: helps the fans give them a point of hope. Chris Man,
Speaker 1: Um you with Jesse, aren't you? Man? I don't see
Speaker 1: this whole coaching staff coming back. Is that the hope
Speaker 1: Chris every year, And I think I think if dan
Speaker 1: Quinn comes, you're gonna find I mean, you'll find the
Speaker 1: next defensive genius to come through here. I mean there's
Speaker 1: guys out there and then they'll be gone in a year. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know thanks to Parson playing will all right, Kurt Yes,
Speaker 1: and been a hell of a year. Enjoy what hope
Speaker 1: enjoyed it? My hope, I'm struggling. I'm struggling to find it.
Speaker 1: But I think I think, no, yeah, because I'm so
Speaker 1: damn wishy washy, But I mean that's this team makes
Speaker 1: me wish you washing man. My I think my hope
Speaker 1: is if you hold on to the right guys, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the interesting thing. You got all these free agents.
Speaker 1: If you hold on to the right guys, I think
Speaker 1: you still have a good nucleus and you I think
Speaker 1: you're you, You're moving in the right direction with chemistry.
Speaker 1: I still like coach McCarthy. I think the stuff that
Speaker 1: he did off the field and behind the scenes with
Speaker 1: this group of guys, like I don't want to see
Speaker 1: him go, want to see him be here for another year.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's my hope is he got
Speaker 1: him moving in the right direction. I think you just
Speaker 1: gotta fix some things, and I think you can get there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if next year is the year, but
Speaker 1: hope so, because I'm tired of saying hopefully next year
Speaker 1: is the year. So Jesse, hell of a year. Enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday. Nate, been a good run man,
Speaker 1: No cross talk, no Cowboys Hour. This is it will
Speaker 1: be on Mondays at eleven o'clock going forward once a week.
Speaker 1: We've enjoyed it. Thanks for going on this. So the
Speaker 1: hell of a ride this year started back in training
Speaker 1: camp and it'll start again this train. So I'm good.
Speaker 1: There you go. I think if they beat everybody except me,
Speaker 1: I got it exactly right. I'm the only one that
Speaker 1: nailed it. They played like my rucord fair enough. We
Speaker 1: will be back Monday at eleven. Thank y'all for listening.
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