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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's he's handling it really well.

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Speaker 3: Yourself back into a football game that way. And and

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Speaker 1: you know, my first year in Philly, you know, we

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Speaker 1: jumped out I think we started three and oh I

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Speaker 1: think we were four and one at one point, and

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Speaker 1: then lost like five in a row, you know, in Philly,

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Speaker 1: and then back in Kansas City in twenty fifteen, I

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Speaker 1: think it was fifteen or sixteen, No, it was fifteen.

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Speaker 3: We won our first game of the year.

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Speaker 1: And then lost our next five in a row, and

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Speaker 1: then we went on a you know, a run.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think ten or eleven in a row

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, look at it's it's not the end

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Speaker 1: of you know, anybody's he's and obviously it's week four.

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Speaker 1: We just gotta we just gotta figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to just play good football. And and you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: right now the tape shows that that were not and

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Speaker 1: you know we've got to fix that.

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Speaker 4: He's way ir candidates.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so not at this point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I assume that's the trials The next

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Speaker 5: guy up, Yes, how does held in the time that

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Speaker 5: he's played.

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Speaker 2: I think he's played all three games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's you know, he's done really well. He's he's

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Speaker 1: got valuable snaps, played played good the other night, played physical.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously he you know, there's some things we

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Speaker 1: can clean up, but you know, he's he's really done

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Speaker 1: a nice job.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he spoke about staying on the field on Monday

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Speaker 6: two or thirteen on third downs one or four in

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Speaker 6: the red zone. Uh, Based on your review of the film, like,

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Speaker 6: is this something more reflective of something that Buffalo is

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Speaker 6: doing and playing dominant defense?

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Speaker 2: Is it something more flictive of us?

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Speaker 3: What did you attribute that to? Yeah, I mean a

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Speaker 3: little of both. I mean, you know, they're a good

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Speaker 3: good defense in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times too, when you get in

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Speaker 1: the red zone, it's just it's execution. It's just your

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Speaker 1: your execution and doing your job. And right now we

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Speaker 1: haven't been doing that well enough. We've settled for way

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Speaker 1: too many field goals in the first couple of games,

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Speaker 1: and we've got to find a way to flip that

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Speaker 1: and score touchdowns. But you know, and then of course

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Speaker 1: we've had we've had some some turnovers. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's more internally, I think, when when when

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Speaker 1: you're looking.

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Speaker 3: At yourself and and you know, what, what we can do.

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Speaker 1: Better as coaches to help our players, you know, in

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Speaker 1: those red zone situations?

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Speaker 3: All right? So what else, Doug?

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Speaker 5: You mentioned internally a couple of times to this set

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Speaker 5: where you think the problems are there. This team has

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Speaker 5: been together for a few years.

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Speaker 3: You've been with this group for a couple of years.

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Speaker 5: How frustrating is it when these sort of problems keep

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Speaker 5: popping up. The offense hasn't really changed, and you're seeing

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Speaker 5: these I guess internal issues where you're saying, we've got

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Speaker 5: to communicate better the guys that have been here for I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, that's just that's just it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just we've been together, you know, the

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Speaker 1: bulk of us have been together, you know for for

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Speaker 1: a while now, and and just just things that we've

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Speaker 1: got to we've got to eliminate in order to play

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Speaker 1: good football. You can't you can't keep making those same

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Speaker 1: you know, same mistakes.

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Speaker 3: And and.

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Speaker 1: As coaches too, I think I put it on coaches

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Speaker 1: as much as as players too. I mean, we've got

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Speaker 1: to do a better job of preparing our guys and.

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Speaker 3: Showing them every look possible in practice. And you know, mistakes, listen,

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Speaker 3: mistakes are going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's gonna happen, but we've got to

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Speaker 1: minimize them in order to have success.

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Speaker 2: Rad do you think this team Psyche is until yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 5: Like something bad happens that they don't automatically say here

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Speaker 5: we go again.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that that can definitely creep in. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you don't. I don't think we're there, you know.

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Speaker 1: I I still I still see glimpses of of good football,

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Speaker 1: you know, out there from time to time, and we've

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Speaker 1: got to lean on those moments. We got to learn

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Speaker 1: from those. But it just takes It takes one play.

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Speaker 1: We're real close to creating some takeaways. You know, defensively,

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Speaker 1: we've done better protecting the football in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. But it just takes you know, just finding

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Speaker 1: that one play maybe that'll spark your team.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Psyche is uh bad or in

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Speaker 1: that in that frame of mind yet