WEBVTT - Episode 108: Akira

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I am

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<v Speaker 1>one half of your host, Danny Fernandez, sitting across the

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world from me. If you want the way, holding

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<v Speaker 1>it down, doing it big, all the above, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see you when you're like four K or whatever. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now this is four K. I was just complaining to

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<v Speaker 1>Joel about this. Yesterday. I was shooting an audition and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have to cannon see one D right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is technically the studio one for Super Punch,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one over there is the one they got

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<v Speaker 1>me for my house. I tried to shoot an audition.

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<v Speaker 1>It knocked over and I broke the l C D

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<v Speaker 1>on A three thousand. Yeah, so I'm rare. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very I was who if you I'm It was so

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<v Speaker 1>good that I rewatched Ada after that because I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a space where I was so mad, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Acuta, I was like, well, nothing matters,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is real, Material possessions don't matter. All that matters

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<v Speaker 1>is friendship and the ones we hold dear. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of those things where it's like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get it fixed, but we're in a time where we

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<v Speaker 1>just can't go to a camera repair shop. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>it was any other time I just today, i'd go

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<v Speaker 1>to B NH, hand it to him and then pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up when when it's ready. But now we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a time where it's like that camera's broken until I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know right right, I still feel like you could

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<v Speaker 1>do a drop off and just like put it on

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<v Speaker 1>your doorstep or something and hope for the best. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this that's the one. It's so funny because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this is the one time I really relate to you, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>because this and that's the only thing I'm type about

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<v Speaker 1>is my electronics, where it's like I don't like knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that it's broken. I need everything to be fixed so

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<v Speaker 1>when I need to use it, it's ready. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>if it's broken, I don't care. I don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>I have this one and it's perfect for right now

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<v Speaker 1>and streaming and that we're probably who knows when we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the studio. I need the other

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<v Speaker 1>one ready to go, and I was so ready to

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<v Speaker 1>do cooking streams whatever. I've been talking too much. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should introduce our guest, uh man friend. We've

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<v Speaker 1>known each other for so long, uh we've we've who

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's been. It's five years this month, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>five years this month, holding it down. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>may have you've that that voice you here, you've heard everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard it in Final Fantasy seven remake, You've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it in Sailor Moon, You've heard her on previous episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, hear her in so many video games. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she is starting to become one of the staple v

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<v Speaker 1>A s that you here in a game and you're like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that voice. Uh, it is none other than

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<v Speaker 1>the Erica Chi. How you doing. Hi. It's so good

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<v Speaker 1>to get to chat with you all. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for inviting me for this, and I get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about one of my very favorite things in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>my aesthetic, my sort of cool surreal identity, cyberpunk. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. Now this is a solid anime because it

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<v Speaker 1>changed how anime was viewed in America. It came out

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<v Speaker 1>January one one, just a month before I came into

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<v Speaker 1>this world, a month before I started walking the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's almost like this this was my red carpet,

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<v Speaker 1>my red motorcycle to ride into this world. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's true. It was like a real, real cultural

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<v Speaker 1>ambassador for uh all Japanese culture to the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>which which is which is in some ways very terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's eight. But then also the manga had

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<v Speaker 1>started releasing in nineteen two, six years prior. Um And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like how how deep do I was

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<v Speaker 1>only deep because I even want to talk about because

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<v Speaker 1>so much to say, because I read, I've read through

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<v Speaker 1>all the manga. I have it um uh And but

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little while ago. I think most folks

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<v Speaker 1>are familiar with the movie from But then also everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they know it or not, is familiar with the

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<v Speaker 1>cultural context it provided to cyberpunk to sci fi too,

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<v Speaker 1>like just the look of films since then. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of animation to like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other um animated properties pay tribute to it a ton

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the I was gonna stay on top

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<v Speaker 1>of people like Jordan peel Ty, what td um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Universe, like all those saying that it heavily influenced them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting too, like if if we just start

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<v Speaker 1>from the influence of the manga, if you read through

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<v Speaker 1>the manga, which is gorgeous, the line work is like

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<v Speaker 1>there are some some line work because there, um here's

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to you, uh talk influence line but

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<v Speaker 1>first we'll talk about the line work that is just

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<v Speaker 1>out of this world. And there's just some designs of

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape in the cities where you can totally see

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<v Speaker 1>how it might have influenced Toriyama once he gets to

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<v Speaker 1>the sand saga, because it's like it very much has

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<v Speaker 1>that same line work, especially like the car design, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love Toriyama's design on cars. I love the short

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<v Speaker 1>stocky cars. But even someone pointed out on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>then I went and checked and even though this person

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<v Speaker 1>was like one of those like nerd historians, so they

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<v Speaker 1>were on it. Uh that Akira. When Akira released the

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<v Speaker 1>movie the January one eight and September seven is when

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<v Speaker 1>Vegeta was introduced. So uh so when you look at Tetsuo,

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<v Speaker 1>the like short stocky always in someone's shadow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big big forehead, short king, and you look at the geta,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I could see I can see how

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that in that shouldn't be like oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I think this person would be perfect to

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<v Speaker 1>counter Goku. Yeah, tom it was such an influence on

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<v Speaker 1>the entire industry, and like Toyama, he did it almost

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<v Speaker 1>all him himself, and he looked, I just the he

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<v Speaker 1>had released Domo before this, which was an award winning

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<v Speaker 1>comic again sort of like touching on the themes of

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<v Speaker 1>like psychic you know, psychic powers and the Little Girl writers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's so it's so bonkers, like the detailing

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<v Speaker 1>in it, like every single window in the building. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was just him, although fun trivia effect um one

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<v Speaker 1>of the he did get assistants um for some of

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<v Speaker 1>the line work and some of and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the marvel editions for uh from Satsikon,

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<v Speaker 1>who is legendary anime director. He didn't Godfathers in Perfect

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<v Speaker 1>Blue and Millennium Actress, and so it's so cool when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, these like cool selmis worked with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to touch on the plot, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on something fun about the plot. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>something o Tomo he himself said, which if you get

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<v Speaker 1>the Akiday Anniversary edition, you get to have this interview

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<v Speaker 1>when he was interviewed right after the movie about Akida,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's very interesting because this movie that is

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<v Speaker 1>so influential. The base of his story of Akida is

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<v Speaker 1>uh based off of Tetsugen twenty eight, which if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember, everyone remembers astro Boy, But Tetogen twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>is about this little boy who controls this giant robot

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<v Speaker 1>numbered twenty eight actually have like a figure that's like

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<v Speaker 1>based off of him. But uh, he was saying like

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<v Speaker 1>he he was apt to do a sci fi story

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<v Speaker 1>a cereal because he did like short stories for us

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<v Speaker 1>a magazine called Weekly Young, which is like Shown and Jump,

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<v Speaker 1>but for older men. It's it's a target audience. Where

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a fifty year olds. So Show and Jump is

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<v Speaker 1>usually for young boys. And um and and I say targeted.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone can read it, but that's that's their target. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he would do Weekly Young, and they asked him to

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<v Speaker 1>do a serial, and he did a lot of sci

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<v Speaker 1>fi stuff. So he said when he was thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ideas, he said, he said he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he was really inspired by Astro boyd Tetsu Tetogen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight and so he uh did he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>base it, which is why Kanetta shares the same name

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<v Speaker 1>as the little boy in Tetogen uh twenty eight, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the exact same name. Um and yeah yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why Akira is number twenty eight. Uh yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>so so that so his this influential work was already

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<v Speaker 1>influenced by something and and it kind of stops there

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<v Speaker 1>because Tetogen twenty s got a more of a shown

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<v Speaker 1>in fun friendly. He also, you know, he also cited

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite comic artists, uh, Mobius Jendrereau, like

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<v Speaker 1>the French heated French sci fi um I think people

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<v Speaker 1>might be from Valerian was based off of one of

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<v Speaker 1>his comics, and it's just this beautiful detailed sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>landscapes and and you could definitely see it in the work.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also, uh so go Ishi e no relation

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge that there's these punk films, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of the we think of cyberpunk and we

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<v Speaker 1>and dystopia, and we think of like the kid motorcycle gangs,

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<v Speaker 1>and that comes not just from it definitely from Akida,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were punk films so far. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like talking about the bossoku culture, which is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like the youth bicycle gangs in Japan, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>these punk films that so go Ishi e did, like

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<v Speaker 1>Panic High School and Crazy thunder Road from the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and eighties that um Otomo definitely cites his influence. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's so cool to see all of the things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all these seminal works that are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>homages to other previous seminal works. And yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can get into two, like the specific, very specific influences

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<v Speaker 1>that Akida had on Western culture and movie making and

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi and cyberpunk. Um. I actually, and I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure your listeners might be able to weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in on this. And I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know about this, but because two was when the manga

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<v Speaker 1>started releasing, which means he was like working on it

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time before that. But also in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two was when Blade Runner came out, And

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<v Speaker 1>there's always argument about which influence. But I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how either could have influenced each other, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen sources that say, like he said he was

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<v Speaker 1>influenced by Blade Runner, like maybe he saw that, but Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they could they could have all been

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<v Speaker 1>influenced by something going on like at that time, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how when if he brought up a curetor Yama

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<v Speaker 1>a curatory on actually started dr Slump in nineteen eight,

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<v Speaker 1>so and he was drawing those cars and stuff back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that they were all kind of similarly

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<v Speaker 1>influenced by media, by manga that was coming out at

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<v Speaker 1>that time. So I think they kind of give and

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<v Speaker 1>take from each other. It's kind of like nowadays when

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<v Speaker 1>you have two movies that come out that are are

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<v Speaker 1>semi similar, and even though you know that they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>copy from each other, it was just like clearly something

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<v Speaker 1>sparked in them this idea by seeing some of the

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<v Speaker 1>news or things that were going on, or even um,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the movies that were coming out about time

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<v Speaker 1>travel or just like the the futuristic look. I even

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<v Speaker 1>think of that when I look at, uh, not the Incredibles,

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<v Speaker 1>but essentially the mesh between mid century modern and futuristic

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<v Speaker 1>type of like Jetsons type of stuff like the Jetsons

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<v Speaker 1>and so um, yeah, I don't I don't to answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question. I mean, and maybe people can weigh in,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't necessarily know if they one influenced the

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<v Speaker 1>other as much as they might have been watching some

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<v Speaker 1>of the same media that then spun off into their heads, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have. Okay, so cyberpunk is my thing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done just so much consumption of it and researched into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot about it. Um. One reason

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<v Speaker 1>is because I am uh Asian American, I'm Chinese Japanese,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's cyberpunk was the one place that I won't

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<v Speaker 1>type of genre I saw growing up that was this

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<v Speaker 1>mix of Western and Eastern. So the idea of sort

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<v Speaker 1>of all the sort of Eastern aesthetic and and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of themes sort of couching in Western terms. And

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<v Speaker 1>now it's a little there's problems with it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the idea is sort of like all this

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<v Speaker 1>Asian aesthetic and sort of like Asian culture, and like

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's why are there so many Japanese signs around

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<v Speaker 1>if there are no Japanese people in yours? Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I see if I hear your cast speaking Chinese, their

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<v Speaker 1>damn well better be a Chinese person in it, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And And so now I'm seeing a lot more representation

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<v Speaker 1>and that like just cultural in general, which is good,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, it's it's and so it's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think one thing that definitely Blade Running, you saw a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of uh sci fi and cyberpunk in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>That because Japan was the world leader in technology at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and you know you see this in Akoda too,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I think gave the West a lot of anxiety. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that in the future there'd be this dystopian

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<v Speaker 1>future in which Japan ran any everything in America was

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<v Speaker 1>no longer this world power. Um. So that's why there's

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<v Speaker 1>the giant geisha on the billboards in in Blade Runner,

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<v Speaker 1>because suddenly the standard of beauty is this Asian femininity

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to you know, blonde, and that was like

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a little dystopian and scary to people.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the idea of yeah, you know, like Marty McFly's

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<v Speaker 1>boss is, is this Japanese business man. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of sort of like j or and

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<v Speaker 1>like Naka Toomi. You know, yeah, I was a say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you see it sort of in the as the

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<v Speaker 1>backdrop and a lot of films and and media in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties in the West. But in Ocada, like I

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<v Speaker 1>have this huge right when they were saying, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what was maybe like ten years ago almost now.

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<v Speaker 1>They were gonna adapt Okada for the screens, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna set it in Manhattan. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you why Okada is so uniquely Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Um, there's so many themes that it like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of japan sci fi. It comes from anxieties

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<v Speaker 1>about the bomb, like and it's always so called out

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It is like Japan reconciling with youth culture,

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<v Speaker 1>Japan reconciling with you know, sort of the the tech boom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like most other things, the Americans actually make

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<v Speaker 1>an appearance in it. It's not in the film, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the manga. The American Navy is waiting outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the harbor in Tokyo and they carpet bomb the city

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<v Speaker 1>because they have this anxiety. They're like, oh, we're afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of the growing power of these Japanese children. It's better

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<v Speaker 1>to take them all out than to allow it to

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<v Speaker 1>be a threat to the world. Um, And like that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of honest. I don't know, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to I want to talk about yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about that, but I will go into

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<v Speaker 1>the synopsis of the story. Yeah, we should explain we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about about, yeah, the movie, because there there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that, and I want to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>changes between the manga and the movie because there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot All of it is very interesting. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you've never seen Akuda, here's how it

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<v Speaker 1>goes down the movie at least, and then we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>even further detail when we talk about the difference, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they take a lot of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>components of the manga and just compressing. Yea, yeah, not

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<v Speaker 1>to not to make all of our weaves listening angry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's safe to say most people have

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<v Speaker 1>seen the movie because the movie is way easier to

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<v Speaker 1>digest the manga series, which in its first volume is

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred pages, and and Otomo is worthy. Adomo is dropping.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't like a easy, you know read where you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going through. He's like explaining and laying out delicious exposition,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's worth reading if you haven't. It

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<v Speaker 1>is pricey. I have all six volumes now and they're

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty bucks each, So if you do that math,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're it's an investment. But Amazon they are shipping

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<v Speaker 1>them right now you know they don't delay the shipping

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<v Speaker 1>on the occult or there's a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of independent bookstores that you should definitely check. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean definitely that. Yeah. I always that over it. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been a like all of my spots, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to support, uh, just a quick quarantine corner Joy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of my favorite restaurants out here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a Taiwanese restaurant. They shut their doors just they said,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back after but we want to protect our employees.

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, cool. So I've been like ordering from

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Donut Fran. I've been trying to order at the local spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is my personal curse on any and all

0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the meat heads who have been hoarding weights plates and

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<v Speaker 1>then trying to flip them online. I hope that you

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<v Speaker 1>get a Charlie Horse while trying to hit a pep.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve it. You deserve it, you sniveling snake. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but hope plateau. I hope you plateau and and just

0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.840
<v Speaker 1>don't understand what's going on. Seriously, it was so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get a pull up bar. You don't even know, uh,

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but so I coulda opens and this gang led by Kanida.

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<v Speaker 1>The heroics are chas seemed to be chasing down a

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<v Speaker 1>rival gang called the Clowns, and they get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets spicy, and we see Tetsuo and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have like a you know, a little brother older brother

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth oftentimes and uh. And so Tetsuo speeds

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of them to catch this last clown guy catches him,

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.040
<v Speaker 1>dwinks him on the head. Uh. And then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>creepy old baby. Uh. Intercut with this scene is a

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<v Speaker 1>man who was shot with a creepy old baby, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of walking through the city streets escaping, uh, escaping being

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<v Speaker 1>chased by um, you know these dogs which are like

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<v Speaker 1>canines and something that blew me. It was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see this in movies. He pops those dogs, both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and and it's it's it's interesting, which within

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<v Speaker 1>like this. This is why I love being a storytell

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I like a creator, because it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an introduction to like this, like being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an animated movie, but we're not pulling punches.

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<v Speaker 1>Content content warning. It is very bloody. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of body horror, a little a little bit of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sexual violence that never gets to this is content warning.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most graphic animated movies I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I was rewatching it, especially like unedited. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember watching it when I was younger, when

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<v Speaker 1>it was edited. I don't know, probably, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>were little, well yeah, I mean I would illegally, like

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>most anime people watch things illegally. Um, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I got like bits and pieces of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't remember, or maybe I just blacked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, like covered my or like

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't fast forward through these parts. But yeah, yeah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meanna cut everyone body. Yeah, but within that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>you see like the bystander children in Horror, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>all it's acknowledging that this is a like a horrible thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but like also being like, yo, this is this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is about to go off. So anyway, the man who's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help this little creepy man escape uh gets

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<v Speaker 1>shot up by the by the authorities, and the kid

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<v Speaker 1>seems to disappear. Uh. And onlooking we see Ryu and

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<v Speaker 1>k who we don't know their names at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>but they see the kid disappear. Now we were back

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<v Speaker 1>to this race. Uh, Tetsuo's gonna jink this guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the head jinks them, goes ahead, sees the same creepy

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<v Speaker 1>kid who was on the other side of town, and

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<v Speaker 1>he collides with him and there's a big explosion. Tetsuo's hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and and then the government authorities come and not

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<v Speaker 1>only do they get to there's a second creepy baby

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<v Speaker 1>who comes who helps capture the first creepy baby and

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<v Speaker 1>UH they also um, they also carry out Tetsuo with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get arrested. And UH. In that time,

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<v Speaker 1>also in the scene, there's a moment where the kid

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<v Speaker 1>when UM, when I always forget the name of the babies,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first baby, uh Takahashi, Yes, Takashi, And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember Takashi because I remember being like, oh, there's no

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 1>way Takashi six nine got his name from this. But

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<v Speaker 1>Takashi sees uh the handler get killed, and he like

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<v Speaker 1>makes an earthquake happen that causes this water tower to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's actually a nod to UH in the Mango

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<v Speaker 1>when Takashi first interacts with uh Kaneta and his gang

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<v Speaker 1>the second time, UH, he makes that same water tower

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<v Speaker 1>that's designed in the movie fall in the manga. But

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<v Speaker 1>then we flat fast forward there in the there caught

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<v Speaker 1>by the authorities. The authorities are like, these guys have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do. They weren't trying to get this baby. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get uh in Kaneta sees k I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she fine, I'm gonna help her to get out, helps

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<v Speaker 1>her get out and they all kind of leave together.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to do this weird uh sexist I saved you,

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<v Speaker 1>so you owe me some buns uh type of thing

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and she and she and she's like thanks, no thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out and she rolls out, and then Kanetta leaves

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<v Speaker 1>with this group uh. And this in the in essentially

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<v Speaker 1>this is the event that leads towards the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a big event of the movie. Tetsuo interacting with Takashi.

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<v Speaker 1>They discover that his brain patterns are or something they've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen before. Um. Very different than why his brain

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>patterns were different in the manga, But in the movie

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's through interacting and they they figure he might

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<v Speaker 1>become a strong esper, a psychic, like uh, this famed

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Akita that they keep mentioning and you here it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like Akita's talking to Tetsuo win his head and he's

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of getting jittery. Uh. So this progresses

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the story down uh these multiple storylines where we follow

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Tetsuo in his interaction with the government, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>follow Kanetta who is trying to uh figure out what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Tetsuo because he's like, he comes back,

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.479
<v Speaker 1>he leaves, he and then when he comes back and leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>he has this like he kind of freaks out because

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<v Speaker 1>uh and he kind of yells because he yells at

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<v Speaker 1>Kaneta because he feels like Canetta always feels like he

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<v Speaker 1>has to save them. So he gets captured by the

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>government again. And then we're following k R You and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like Benefactor who seems to be this movement who

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>know about Akira and they're trying to expose it and

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<v Speaker 1>the resistance movement. And then they are they are they

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<v Speaker 1>have a mole inside this sort of uh government council

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 1>who is the opposition leader and leverage them. Yeah, and

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>it helped them and helped them like, um kind of

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<v Speaker 1>blow this a key ra thing out the water. And

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:13.959
<v Speaker 1>eventually this all leads down the road to probably the

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>thing everyone remembers, which is the event in which Tetsuo

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<v Speaker 1>is in the in the what would be the stadium

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<v Speaker 1>for the Olympics at the time of Okay, yeah, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Olympics in Tokyo, like that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then except this disaster befalls and so they're not

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<v Speaker 1>sure they might have to cancel it and everything, which

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<v Speaker 1>is oh boy, yeah, I know right, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is canceled. It is, it is, yeah, and it's just

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's so that's so scary that they that they

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 1>did that. I don't know, So it's so spooky. And

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>my man's Goku was a mascot, I know it would

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>have been. Why was there in February and they were

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>so excited about it, and you know they you know,

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean Japan in Tokyo's it's so beautiful. Um. But

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>although I saw somebody posted because I was looking up

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>a kira um like the hashtag on Instagram, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it came out in theaters recently, like you could

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>see it again in theaters, um, And somebody posted a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of their ticket and I was like, what what

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 1>was this? And it was April four, and I was

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like what I don't know if it was in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>They might have been, They might have been quarantined differently

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>than US. Oh yeah, Japan was not. They did not

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>quarantine until a lot later. Partially some people think it

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>might be because of the Olympics. Yeah, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>all taking a place against the backdrop of preparations for

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics in Japan, which is wild. And what eventually

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>happens is that the psychic energy that his body is

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>producing after a string of events where Tetsuo just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of owes off and he starts lashing out against the government,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like these like, um, what what's the word

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for? Like the end of times folk who

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>have been claiming a doomsday cult. There's a doomsday cult

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>about Akira And there that's the word I was looking for.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And they're following see them in the background, which again

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to this later, but they play a huge

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<v Speaker 1>role in they're not even named, like this character you

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<v Speaker 1>see isn't even named in the movie, but plays a

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<v Speaker 1>huge role in the manga. And that's what was interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, reading the manga after watching it, as you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell that because Otomo he was talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>in the interview that it was so hard to fit

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<v Speaker 1>all of that movie, and he knew, and he and

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<v Speaker 1>he and he showed like his notebook of where he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, this is what we can fit, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we can't. And so I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>very smart to like be like, Okay, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>these nods for people who have read it, so they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll know. But the story itself is son how do

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<v Speaker 1>you see. It's a lot of it is added to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the backdrop, so you know, the political machinations

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<v Speaker 1>and the sort of doomsday cole and the civil unrest

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and all of that that actually plays a bigger role

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<v Speaker 1>in the manga is framed as just a backdrop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the anime, and I think it works really well. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of and it's one of those things were

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<v Speaker 1>watching it where I totally a thousand percent agree with

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<v Speaker 1>why we uh we You can't just remake it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't set it in New York if you do. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into the final kind of chapter

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie and then start our open discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>the comparison right after these messages. Hey, everyone, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Nerdificent it's your boy if you are the way

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<v Speaker 1>in the virtual stew with Danny Fernandez Erica Eachi and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Akita and before we were setting up

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the first uh tuish acts of the movie,

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and the final act is probably I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most memorable because there's something very poetic, and movies

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<v Speaker 1>do this, I think, uh we've seen this done in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like the Marvel movies and all this,

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>but like I love when you kind of set a

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<v Speaker 1>stage for a final scene and it's a stage that's

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of been hinted at this this Olympic arena, Olympic Arena,

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>and you and in this Olympic arena, there's this like

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<v Speaker 1>almost throne there and what happened was and this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>as clear in the movie as it is in the book,

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>but the government planned on having a secret base under

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>where the Olympics were being planned, and that's where Occuda

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>was being held. So Tetsuo ends up going there because

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>he wants to face Acda. He's hearing about this guy.

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>He wants to face it. He finds out that the

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Acuda isn't a person, it's a collection of his body

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>parts from when they stopped him. And then one of

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the coolest scenes to happen ends, which is they use

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>this weapon called the Soul shoot down on Tetsuo and

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it takes it was it's because it's beautiful because there's

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>this moment, uh, kind of Do's gun runs out of battery.

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>They're kind of facing each other, and then you just

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<v Speaker 1>see this blue lights around Tetsuo and you just see

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>his skin start to like flare up, and then they

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>shoot it down, but it isn't enough to take take

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>him out. It was, oh man, this from this movie.

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>It just goes full throttle, um and uh. And there's

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>just like Canada is able to retreat, try and recharge

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>his batteries, and in this time, Tetsuo creates a metal arm. Well,

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>he creates a metal arm from the rubble, and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's inside the stadium, sitting in the street. His girlfriend

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>from before comes to him to kind of consult with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point Tetsuo is mad with power, not

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<v Speaker 1>really making any sense. Um, it's sorry, not really making

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>any sense. And and now it's it's the final stage

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>because now his body and we find out why he's

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<v Speaker 1>had so much headaches, but his power is so much

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that his body can't contain the how much his UH

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>power is growing. And that's when we get into one

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<v Speaker 1>of the often thought about, often reference to Akira body

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>horror scenes where his body just starts to mutate. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it really that from that I think that sequence,

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<v Speaker 1>from when his body starts to mutate until the end

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of it, to me, it it like moves like an

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<v Speaker 1>ariaster horror because there is no real the The only

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>suspense isn't the is Tetsuo gonna kill this person? Is

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh my gosh, what like how can he

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<v Speaker 1>contain this? And he his body is growing, He's crying

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<v Speaker 1>out for Canada. He just totally flipped, see like he

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like he reverted back to his old self

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<v Speaker 1>because there is a change the moment he starts to

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<v Speaker 1>have power, he starts to be really cocky and and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's like begging for help from Canada and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, yeah, and he's like and then they like

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<v Speaker 1>and the body is morphing into this giant, grotesque baby,

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and he like he trushes his girlfriend and Canada like

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>gets out at the last second, and eventually the creepy

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>babies all work together, and they they um because Canada

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>was too close to what because they bring back Akira first.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>So Akita comes back and and they're like, yo, hey,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we they straight up this is they straight up pulled

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a dragon ball z where they're like, hey, we prayed

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<v Speaker 1>to your body parts, brought you back because we need

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you to fight this big, big thing. And Ocuda is

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<v Speaker 1>like bet And then so the Acuda creates this um

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, well, how would you describe it, Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm still how would you describe that? Like light explosion?

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I mean light in the sense of

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<v Speaker 1>like the well, the way it looks and not like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's stomic explosion, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly and in the beginning um in eight or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, supposedly Akada caused World War three and

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<v Speaker 1>set off this giant explosion, this sort of atomic blast

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<v Speaker 1>that kicked off World War three. And now this was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of another like sort of the follow up to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the one you're talking about, the big yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the growing explosion that of light in the nick and

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>they referenced it as being like the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>universe and there's like it gets very philosophical at the end,

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like it really and that's what I love is a

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>movie that has me just kind of trying to pick

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<v Speaker 1>away at like, Okay, what is because when they're like

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to uh Tetsuu and like, uh, Canada's like,

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I think we'll see him again,

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like he said, you know, he says right, and that

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>left It's all left very sort of ambiguous, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting and it work works very well from the

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<v Speaker 1>because in the manga is it's more clear manga there

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<v Speaker 1>is a definite ending and I don't know again spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>alert for anybody who wants to still read, I would

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>highly recommend reading it. But in the in the manga,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, it's a very definitive that all of

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the espers that like the psychic kids, the babies that

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<v Speaker 1>the psychic babies that if he was talking about, and

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<v Speaker 1>Okada and Tetsuo all ascend to a higher plane of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've sort of been hinting at this throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>entire manga is that this is sort of the natural

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>evolution of humans of it's it's a very classic cyberpunk

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>theme of transhumanism, and so they send to a higher

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>plane in some ways that sort of tetso's at peace. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the U n comes in and provides aid to

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>just like in post World War two, the United the

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.959
<v Speaker 1>sort of United Nations are the nations come in and

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<v Speaker 1>um provide aid to Japan, uh, Kannada and k and

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the resistance fighters established like so that

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<v Speaker 1>I forget what they call it, but um, it's this

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<v Speaker 1>new order order like the Kingdom of New Kingdom of

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Japan essentially and declare independence. Um. And they warn the

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>United Nations, Um, hey we still have our friends, the

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>psychic friends that we had, the ones that destroyed a

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>ton of stuff, like, we still have them in our hearts.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch out, Um, we're independent now. And then you

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>see sort of at the end, like also the Joker

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>biker gang at some point like starts helping they they

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>have joined up with the revolutionaries and everybody sort of

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>unites at the and and um, they start a new

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>world order with this sort of bike gang that's built

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>peace and peaceful society. And so there's a very definite

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>happy ending today. Yeah, I know, that's that's what's so interesting,

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>not to cut you off, but I really want us

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<v Speaker 1>to really uh talk about because this is this movie

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>is so interesting and beautifully political because like we were

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about the initial Akira explosion, I get an explosion

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<v Speaker 1>which is very much the fault of the Japanese government

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<v Speaker 1>because they were doing these experiments into this world war,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>which assumes that they kind of didn't take ownership of

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it and allowed it to become this huge thing. And

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a take. And then on top of

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the take, with the manga of that, that's a very

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>important thing because it's something I think that that like

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>when it's brought up, I never like how it's brought up,

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because usually it's brought up by a um i'm a

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just aloud to say, a white person, and it's usually

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>brought up in an insulting way. But yeah, after World

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>War two, uh, the US like invaded Japan and like

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't allow them to have a military and kind of

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>like just kind of like forced themselves onto that country.

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that ending in the manga is

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a response to that. That's that's I feel like a

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Tomo giving his thoughts about that of being like you

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>can help us. There there was a lot of sort

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of aid that came into Japan afterwards, you know, a

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of help with rebuilding, but definitely you know, Japan

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>was demilitarized and you know, they weren't allowed to have

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.959
<v Speaker 1>an army. They they you know, they lost the war

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>in such a devastating huge way. I mean, you know

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the bombs, when the bombs were dropped, that can you

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>even we we cannot comprehend what that was, you know,

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like right now living in this time, like it is

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>so much bigger than anybody thinks of now, like for

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>even for which is like I remember in physics we

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>learned about, you know, just really the devastating effects of

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear blast and like how huge it was, and

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it really it just devastated Japan and there was It's

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<v Speaker 1>in every all of their media since then, you know,

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>in in so many ways, a lot of media like

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Astro Boy and and you know, just so much came

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>from that the bomb and and this is no exception,

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, there was definitely a political statement there, like

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<v Speaker 1>and I I don't know, like it's it's been a

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>while since I've read all the manga, but I just

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>remember the idea of the the American Navy sitting off shore,

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>which also actually mirrors what happened when they first forced

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Japan out of isolationism in the eighteen hundreds. Admiral Perry

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and his navy sat off shore and was like, Hey,

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna open up trade with us, otherwise we will

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>bomb the hell out of you. Um. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of an I imagine would be a nod

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to that, and I it's so it's there's all of

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>these anxieties in it and themes in it that are

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>very tied up in the history of Japan. Yeah, And

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about that because it's something that's

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>always bugged me. Maybe it's it's and I've said a

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>statement like this before and I think I think I

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>set this on who shots and not nereifficent about you know,

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>um when when when when you are you know, taking

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>in a media from a country, you essentially, in short,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're taking a media from a country, if you're

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>obsessing over you should also uh know what's going on there,

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and you should also like want to support it. And

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it's always bugged me this idea because when you think

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>about the end of World War two and one, the

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>fact that uh, the bombs were chosen to drop on

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Japan obviously, just the the bitterness about you know, Pearl

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Harbor whatever, but even then to choose to only do

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>it in Japan, and to choose to demilitarize Japan, like

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you you didn't you didn't have those sanctions put on

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>anyone else. Uh, and then for it to still be

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>technically upholded, there's like there's like the article has not

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>been amended yet. There's been I was just looking it

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>up to make sure, but like, um, they didn't amend

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the constitution itself, but they they gave more powers to

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>the Japan Self Defense Force. But that article needs to

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 1>just be gone like that, like like why are we

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, just I don't know, I just have

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>this this weird moral sense of things of just like um,

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like even though I know the world isn't fair, it's

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>just like there's just clear basic things that I think,

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like it should be like, Okay, enough time has passed,

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>We're we're good because we weren't. Only Japan wasn't the

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>only country we went up against, and we've only shows

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>one to demilitarize. Yeah, well, you know, I mean it's

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>interesting because out of that post world War two deal militarism, demilitarization.

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it can be argued that Japan became a

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>world leader um in tech, especially in the eighties because

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of their you know, they literally melted down

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>their their guns into plowshares. You know, a lot of

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 1>the scrap metal from their military operations, from from their

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>weaponry went directly into tech manufacture, UM and toy making,

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and so you know it in the eighties, it was

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a world power and that led to a lot of

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of economic economic anxiety in the West. A lot

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of people, like Japanese was being taught as the language

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of you know, business in all the business schools, UM.

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know that's definitely in the background in Okada,

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like in terms of cultural context. You know, it's because

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you can always you can always view media on certain levels,

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, on a surface level, this is about

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>psychic kids. And but you know also you see in

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the background, you know, the the unrest against the current

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>political uh powers. Well, we've brought this up before as

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>far as UM. Whenever people which we get often tweet

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>at us and say, like, um, keep politics out of it,

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>like politics into it, and it's like, UM, I always

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>bring up that Marvel and d C are Western American

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>comic books have covered every single war since their inception,

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>has been a part of influenced the writers and uh

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>with the storylines of these characters. So it's it's fascinating

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>to me that you would want And again it's kind

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of like what we were talking about is like what

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>influenced what? Well, a lot of these artists are all

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>looking at the same events at the same time. They're

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing the same news store ra's and and you know,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>seeing the government knocking down you know, people's doors and

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and um, people being pulled out of their home like

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and it's like, well, this is going

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to create kind of like in what we are in now.

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>But hopefully we don't get twenty billion shows about coronavirus.

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But uh really don't need that, just like I didn't

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and didn't get we didn't need don't need twenty shows

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>about nine eleven. I don't need twenty shows about coronavirus.

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 1>But however, I think that it can still affect and influence, Uh,

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>what horrors come out the idea of isolation, the ideas

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of you know, digital the rise of digital technology, like

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the change in the workforce. Yeah, there's just going to

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>be all these themes that I know will make it

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>into things. And that's that's how it is. I mean, yeah,

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>to your to your point Anny about Marvel and d C.

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just like it's absurd to think like that. You know,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>every major superhero and all of the teams has has

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>been straighted punching Hitler like yeah, surgery, you know, and

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>X Men is supposed to be an allegory for the

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>civil rights movement and straight up possible for you know,

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>we don't create art in a vacuum. Yeah, now that's

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna say Before I go on, though,

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I do need to clarify that Germany was demilitarized to

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>while they're occupying in Germany, they were demilitarized, So they

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>just want to clear that up before someone starts to

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>say some stuff. It is funny that's sort of different

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>treatments that that, you know, we did. I don't know,

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a lot about that. You know, like

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.919
<v Speaker 1>only one group of American citizens of cultural heritage was

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>was really interned in on math in the US, and yeah,

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it's Okada is So it's so rife with all these

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>incredible interesting themes and for a while, and we see

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>it in a lot of jack Needs media. Um, the

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 1>idea of the old struggling with the new. There the

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>fear of youth culture in Battle Royal, in the idea

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of like the sort of creepy ring girl or like

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>why for a while we were seeing so many horror

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>films that featured children Japan. Yeah, well, I guess that

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that do. But definitely specifically in Japan. You know, there's

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the idea of youth culture that we're rejecting cultural norms.

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know there's the Bossoku gangs, which is the

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of um, the bicycle the bike gangs in Japan,

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and and the the sukaban Oh my gosh, if you

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know about to givon, it's the sort of girl

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the schoolgirl gangs, and they'd have all the schoolgirl uniforms,

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>but they like mod them out and like put patches

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>on them, and you know that sort of and ended

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>up turning into so the go Go Yubari style a

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>teen girl assassin robe, but in in Okada. And this

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>is my read on it, and I'm sure that there

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>are there are, you know, academic studies about this idea

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of the children being the ones to inherit this these powers,

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that the next evolution of humanity and the the destruction

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they caused with them is is definitely points to sort

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of a fear of youth culture and you and the

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>next generation. And that's not unique to Japan. You know,

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>we're always these kids in their TikTok's and they're you know, well,

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say, what UM spilling over into Western

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>culture stranger things. The Duffer brothers made Eleven, who was

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a child who escapes from a government facility and learns

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that she possesses spirit spiritual natural powers, said that the

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>influence of this movie was quote obviously a big one

0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>on them. Ryan Johnson also said he was influence UM

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>when he made Looper, which features a child who's able

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to kill his would be assassin using only his mind.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>So like you were saying it clearly, and then obviously

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Kanye West um Stronger had multiple shot for shot remakes

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of key scenes from from the film. Um. But that's

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>just some of the people, some of the art of

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the Western artists that have been heavily influenced. Oh yeah,

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's beyond Western art. I mean it

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.399
<v Speaker 1>influenced the acceptance of anime because this was the first

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>time you've kind of seen an anime that took on

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>adult themes in the way and they didn't even get

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>as adult as they got in the manga and the

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>manga Connecta did drugs. Connecta was smashing. Connecta got someone pregnant,

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's very interesting because that that may

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>not seem extreme now, but definitely in Japan. I think

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>another good way to kind of like, I've been watching

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of gain Tama, which is a I think

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the best way I've heard it describe so far is

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like if it's always sunny meets anime. It's very like

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>cultural references, very like, but it still has like they're

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>still wholesome, like they're they're they're the worse until someone

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.760
<v Speaker 1>they feel needs to be protected is protected. But there's

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so many direct cultural references, and it's also interesting to

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>see just how like how they still uphold like you

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>know of if a woman sleeps with a man before

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>she's married, it's still such a taboo thing and and

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a running joke that they have because something they

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>showed throughout the movie that was kind of like all

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>this world's going to to blank is like they they

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>always had shots of people like making out and feeling

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>each other up in the background, and that was like

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>such supposed to be such a like, oh my gosh,

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>taboo thing when that's just if a night at Tendance

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:46.959
<v Speaker 1>of the Trees. Uh, that's a local l a bar reference. Um,

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>physical cool affection is not very public. Yeah, there it

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>is still you know how I love talking about people

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>filling each other up, um, which we will get into

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 1>more after these messages. Gosh and we are back. Who

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.359
<v Speaker 1>was talking about filling up? I do think that that's

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>really funny, Iffy, that that is, Uh, that's how we

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>show that everything is going to hell, is people like

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.839
<v Speaker 1>making out and whatnot. Why it's it's it is really

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting because it you know, as we were talking about, like,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>did just just briefly touch on a couple of things

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that didn't make it into the film that we're in

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the manga, we're yeah, like this sort of storyline with

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>k and the revolutionaries and uh, Lady Miako who is

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the leader of the doomsday cult. Um you see her

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>very briefly in the movie, but there's a whole storyline

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 1>with her in the manga UM, you know, just themes

0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of you know what was interesting and all all sci fi,

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>UM and cyberpunk is um retrofuturistic because it reflects the

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>esthetic and the anxieties and the themes that are popular

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>at a given time that will eventually go out of fashion.

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes it gets things right for the future. Uh,

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's way off because that was just what was

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>important to people at this given period of time. And Okada,

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, is such an enduring has such an enduring

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>legacy because there were these themes that just really resonated

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 1>with people and and a lot of those made it

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 1>into the film and into Western culture and pop culture

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 1>from then on. You know, the idea of the child

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>motorcycle gangs and this dystopian landscape, civil unrest, you know,

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>versus corrupt governments. Danny mentioned some very specific examples of

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, things that I didn't. I didn't. I was like, oh,

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>of course that makes sense that that's that. But even

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the very famous motorcycle slide, Like every time I see it,

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I was specifically thinking of, um, I know, Stephen Universe,

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Sugar, they like actively said that they put it

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in there, but also um Lelo and Stitch. Do you

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.720
<v Speaker 1>remember when Yeah, do you remember when she was trying

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to Stitch was trying to get off the island and

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:28.839
<v Speaker 1>kept like like, it's just such an iconic I'm sure

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like step one in animation school or maybe Matt

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>when you get your master's step two. Yeah, I was

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna say it's pretty hard. Maybe I said, maybe when

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you get your masters then it's uh, that's the first

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>step is learning that animation style. But do the bouncing

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>ball exercise and then you do the occulta motorcycle slide.

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you've seen it. And there's this great

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of great gifts that compile all of

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the really popular ones. Yeah, just the look of it,

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, as I said, sort of Blade

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Runner happened concurrently, but Okada is for sure that city landscape,

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that Dystupian cyberpunk landscape is so influential. And in terms

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of fashion, that's like it's definitely hot right now. The

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of the red leather jacket, oh oh in a

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Godzilla what's the things? Uh John c Riley's jacket, it

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>has the pill he has the pill jacket, says like

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>uh for good for good health on it and just yeah,

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it definitely influenced my aesthetic with this sort of bold

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, red is my favorite color. I love it.

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I've always been a fan of motorcycles. It was super dope.

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But also one thing I like about the motorcycle is

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.359
<v Speaker 1>we off we we were talking about how it's this

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the time that this movie came out,

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's this like fear of how fast you know,

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Japan is developing their technology. The bike itself is a

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>flex Cannon is a Japanese company, Citizen is a Japanese watchmaker.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Show like it It's it's not only this dope bike,

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>but it has stickers from these prominent Japanese companies that

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>are still around and kicking till this day. So so

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 1>like and I just feel that because like it's it's

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it's there's so many like layers to it, because I

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like that is what it's like being, you know,

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a part of a culture which you you you can

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>make a criticism of it, but you also want to

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 1>make a point to be like, this isn't an invitation

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>to like look down on us. This is just to

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 1>let you know that while we have our problems, we

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>still out here and and it's and that's one thing

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I love about the bike, and it's probably why I

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>put stickers on everything so much, because I just love it.

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>But also, yeah, I'm the same. This movie was real

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>bad for me because I all already my post team

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>purchase that some people are either vehemently against or vehemently

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>for is a motorcycle. And this was the worst movie

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to watch because you got a motorcycle, well not yet,

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was kind of playing it. I asked,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I asked Instagram should I get a motorcycle? And so

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>many people. I had so many messages. My favorite has

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>been multiple people being like, you have a daughter. I

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, and I have a car to driver around

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and I have I think they mean that your odds

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of not anyways, I'm not going to say my mom

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>would be very disappointed in you. Oh yeah, but I

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>have This isn't once in a while I think about it,

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's ocus fault, mostly like because like I think

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.760
<v Speaker 1>about it, like the wind in my hair, like barreling

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>down the road and my awesome leather jackets and on

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>this red bike, and I think about it so much

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and you know in l A. It's kind of a

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 1>death sentence, like, yeah, well, it was so funny. One

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 1>of the people, one of the people who were four,

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it was like, look, Manna, I'm gonna keep it funky.

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>What you send me a paragraphs? Like it's the one

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of the best, Like it's the best experience I have.

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I love driving to work, wind going through my hair.

0:53:55.800 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I have been in three accidents. If everybody I know

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>with a bike, it's like it's the best thing in

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the world, but you've got to know that it's a

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:08.839
<v Speaker 1>very good chance you will die. Yeah. Yeah, well it's

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny because it's like it's it's it's it

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 1>really is the specific l A driving style, which is

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the style that people are driving like they're the only

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.439
<v Speaker 1>car on the road. There's no self awareness, like even

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>in a car, there's like you have to think about it.

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You really have to think about the fact that in

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>normal days in l A, there is an accident every day.

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:37.399
<v Speaker 1>That's not normal. Every man they're like, yeah, yeah, that's true.

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not just one. They're they're over a dozen accidents

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.919
<v Speaker 1>every day on the same stretch of road we have.

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's yeah, I was gonna say the

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>other place though, if you that a lot of people

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>have motorcycles that I lived in, its Texas, and the

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 1>same thing everybody in everybody in Texas drives the same way,

0:54:56.880 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like you're the only one on the road. Um, and yeah,

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's you do you though, you know, we'll see.

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I might end up getting a whole

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.799
<v Speaker 1>bunch of tweets after this episode, people begging me not

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I wanted. Yeah, let's let's you know, geek

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 1>out about Also the animation. I didn't mean to stop

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that combo. But one thing I noticed that was really

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>cool and something that I've that you see a lot

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that has to be influenced by this is the light trails, uh,

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the way the tail light trails and

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that throughout this movie during the motorcycle scenes. I wish

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 1>there was a serialized anime to just have just the

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>biker portions of this. And I think that's the only

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>remake that I'm interested in, is like a remake that

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>is a an anime redone. Yeah, there's a lot to

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>add to it. I think that that could be beneficial. Normally,

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I am I feel like if you have something to

0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 1>say and to add to it, that is when you're

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 1>allowed to do remake or reboot. But you know that

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.959
<v Speaker 1>being said, for a while, uh, live action was very

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>much you know underway, uh supposedly and produce. You know,

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:14.839
<v Speaker 1>pre production was starting to kick off and Tachot, one

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite director in the world, was helming it,

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know that got shelved um when he started

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 1>to work on Thor. So I do know that they

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>were into it, but now uh postponed indefinitely because it

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was postponed indefinitely, well because Thor and because he has

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>other projects, and also they were saying they really do

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>want to have Asian and Japanese actors in it, which

0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I really respect, but Hollywood has not did a good

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>job of cultivating those that are well known enough. Honestly though,

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I I feel like that's uh just such a cop

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>out because there's so many movies that are released you know,

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>luckily I do who shot you? And there are so

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 1>many major movies that are released with unknowns avatar, you know,

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in that rid of like you know, I'm sure we've

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 1>all seen it, the threat of people who passed on stuff.

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think Avatar. They wanted Ben afflecked they were

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:08.880
<v Speaker 1>going to give him ten percent of the movie. He

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>said no, and they gave it to an unknown. You

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>went from Affleck to unknown. And I feel like that

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen for people of color. It has to be

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a name people of color. But if you and I'm

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna just flower say it because I know I have

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the facts behind me that you can go and look

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>up movies that in major films, I'm talking about multimillion

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 1>dollar films, they feel so comfortable letting white unknown actors

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>get roles, but if you're a person of color, you

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 1>have to have a name. But there's no it's it's

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a trap because if you create no opportunities

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for people of color, but then set this rule that

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want people a person of color to elite,

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they have to be a known you set a trap.

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It's it's that's that's a play that you would do

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>in magic to screw over someone to be like, ah, yes,

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to you have to. Uh will only accept

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>people of color if they have roles. Ah. But but

0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, we've talked about so many

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of the movies that did like slum dog millionaire, like

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, nobody knew anybody there and now and now

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>we have our king. We have a brown king that

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 1>we get to you know, you know, I love that

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he's doing all the historical British rules like oh yeah,

0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 1>but but that's also like uh to, that's a slum

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>slum dog millionaire story because you know, like yeah, like

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 1>because um with um how cash I used to know

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>his name like this, but from Captain Phillips, you know,

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>after that he was still driving taxicabs like you it's

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>very hard for you to jump in. Then um our

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Man's from Aladdin, who was complaining about totally advancing, like

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you can have a banger film and it still is

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like you still have to convince, You still have to convince.

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, has anyone heard from Jalizzapparricio from Roma? No,

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Like she was literally nominated for an Academy Award, and

0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 1>where is she? She was on the cover of every

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 1>magazine and everyone has forgotten about her. I think she

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>might be in like a couple of things, like one

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>or two things, but I don't see anyone talking about

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 1>her anymore. I did not recognize that it was dev

0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Patel who did slump Yeah, Dev Patel, Gosh, he's yeah.

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:17.520
<v Speaker 1>But if anybody so so Erica, I completely agree. I

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>think that it has to be. I think it would

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 1>be disrespectful if it wasn't a Japanese or Asian America.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean specifically if it should be Japanese. Yeah, that's

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>how I feel too about DBZ. I'm like, I don't

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>care if Goku's an alien. He means so much to

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>these people that it's almost disrespectful to not have them

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 1>be and so kind of like what what if? But

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 1>these are huge iconic properties that I think you can

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:45.880
<v Speaker 1>put someone unknown and I think at least someone like

0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Taiko Wa Titi or another person of color like Jordan

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Peel who passed on it. However, who knows what's going forward.

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>They would not f it up. I don't think. I

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's you have if you can, why wouldn't you

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you know? It's it's these are these there are these opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing it a lot in anime and in

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of cyberpunk stuff where it is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stories from Asian countries from Japan and there

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't cast many they have like you know, Lana

1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Condor is like the token Asian that ends up in

1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:25.840
<v Speaker 1>all of these things, and then that's it. Um And

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<v Speaker 1>so I really just would love to see these stories, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, incorporate people of color. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're I think you're right, and I think here here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. We we have to come to terms with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Hollywood will always try and americanize it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not always their fault. There's just some people

1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 1>who are like, like the same reason people were like

1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>are waiting for a parasite remake. But here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>put more thought into it than doing Uh, New York.

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<v Speaker 1>New York is not like Tokyo like I have. I

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to go this year, but unfortunately I won't

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<v Speaker 1>be going. But I can tell you just off of

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at it alone. And also if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to target the themes, then you're gonna have to make

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<v Speaker 1>this a hyper futurized version of i'd say, like a

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco a tech hub, because you want somewhere where

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<v Speaker 1>people are experimenting. But that's only if you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's only if you for some reason, why not Tokyo.

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<v Speaker 1>Tokyo is such a fun place. I means someone in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode actually had the fun of shooting in Tokyo,

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<v Speaker 1>so they could tell you how how how beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>how fun and how many great shots you can get

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<v Speaker 1>from Tokyo alone. It's incredible. Yeah, it's it's so incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tokyo. I have to we have to hamp

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<v Speaker 1>this down. We've we've got the the they said five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left. We've been talking. I can talk about Akita forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I can just and I like doing movies, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's just it's kind of concise. So I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably gonna be all my picks is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>anime movies. Uh. And we're going to keep the high

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<v Speaker 1>throttle going because the next one I'm probably gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is Redline, which has our friend Liam O'Brien. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That one is so beautiful and again definitely influenced again, huge,

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<v Speaker 1>hugely influenced by Akada. Yeah, if you haven't seen the

1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Okada movie, it is kind of like when you see it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like goes in the show. When you see

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, well that's where that came. Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So highly recommends Super Love it. I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the future with it, with either with

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<v Speaker 1>live action or you know, they were there was talk

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<v Speaker 1>of more sort of media coming out surrounding it. And

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for letting me talk with you guys about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, talking with you all just always such a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, where can people find you? Erica? Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on. Where where have you got anything to plug?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us, give us give it. I am at Erica

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<v Speaker 1>ishi E on Twitter and at the Erica ishi E

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. There there's something that might be coming out

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<v Speaker 1>soon that I'm in, but you know, I can never

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really say, just in case it gets pushed

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<v Speaker 1>these days, but yeah, thank you. Just keep up with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm on social media a lot, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know me if you add the way on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and all the things I wanted to give a huge

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to our friends at the Perky Nerd. We

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<v Speaker 1>had Tiffany if you remember on she was the shop

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<v Speaker 1>to want to keep up with our lady business owners. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also doing I'm going to be doing a live

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